Why? I dislike so much this arrogant attitude gosh, educating is ALWAYS important, and if someone doesnt know certain things it doesnt make them stupid or culturally insensitive. Not everyone grows up with the same education and the same social context, its fine if you don't know this type of information, and its good that people still make this type of video
@@liftedb9591 i agree w/ this whole comment, except for the “culturally insensitive” part. You can still be culturally insensitive without having the intentions to do so. Not knowing does not negate or excuse the harm you can do.
@@warcrimeconnoisseur5238the fact that this is your response is laughable. She makes a good point, and you don’t know the intentions of the original commenter. 😂
As an Indian I didn't know this. Thank you for letting us know. This explained the similarity in facial features, darker skin tones, indic Language group and extremely similar dressing. We have Banajara people in Rajasthan who are nomads, similar to Roma, gypsy. This information blew my mind.🙌🏽
I know they were different but never knew that Romani people were somewhat related to India, kind of embarrassing for me considering I am an Indian. While I saw the similarities in our cultures but always thought we happen to share similarities.
Well It's because we aren't made aware of the fact here. We are taught in schools the Aryan theory and that the earliest civilizations in India weren't started by the natives, but the nomads from all over the world who settled here. They want us to believe that we didn't have the capabilities to have an amazing culture of our own, but that we should be grateful towards others for everything. And I am saying this because I exactly remember what chapters I had in my 8th -9th grade social studies textbook
@@ma.k4910 wth where do u live 💀 here in romania its common knowledge that gyspy ppl are likely to be related to indian ppl or any country around india
This is so interesting because my mom is (ethnically) Punjabi while my dad is (ethically) Romanian Jewish. Punjab is where Roma genetics have been traced multiple times, while Romanian Jews interacted frequently with the Romani population in the country as well, as they both faced persecution and harsh stereotypes and then were sometimes imprisoned together in concentration camps when the Nazis invaded. It’s cool to learn how much overlap both sides of my family have had with the Romani even though neither side is ethnically Roma. For example, the Romani language (from what I’ve heard) sounds a lot like Hindi and Punjabi, especially numbers. I know that it’s not taught to outsiders, but I saw a video of two Romani women speaking and I could understand some words and the numbers were almost the same as the Hindi words numbers (although I don’t want to learn - I just thought it was beautiful to hear and was surprised I could recognize the similarities). However, my dad’s family had a lot of actual interaction with the Roma - my great-grandmother left Romania before the Holocaust, but when she was growing up in a small Romanian village, the Jewish community would apparently buy goods from the Romani when they passed through as they were also persecuted by the Christian Romanians. So there are pictures of her sisters with Romani girls, trying on necklaces together and later photos of just my great-grandmother wearing these skirts with unique Roma designs (which are interestingly similar to Indian Kashmiri silk patterns) as an adult in America. Anyways, great video dude, keep up the good work!
It's so fascinating how people can be half a world apart but still so intertwined. I wish I could see more pictures of my great grandparents when they were young... My heritage is German, I'm American. My great grandparents also fled Germany before the 2nd WW.
@@Chen-gl9hm I know the Roma have ties to Rajasthan as well, but they have actually shown consistent genetic localization to Punjab, even showing up in Punjab and not in Rajasthan in multiple studies. Since they were a nomadic group, one theory proposed for genetic markers showing up in Punjab and Rajasthan or Punjab and not Rajasthan is that they were Punjabi ethnically and migrated to Rajasthan but intermarried amongst themselves.
@@leeh4669 no body migrate to Desert.... People go to Green pasture ! To date gypsy culture is intact in Rajasthan. Whereas Punjab has not an iota of Gypsy people . Their faces look more of Rajasthani people than Punjabis.
"But I googled it" noooo, your Google dive did not make you the expert on another people. On another note thank you for these videos, they're super informative and beautifully done
They kinda are like Banjara people from Rajasthan of my country India though they are Indians but they don't live at one place always...they travel from places to places
@@rupkathabanerjee2918 you can tell by their outfits alone! The chandelier looking thingy that they wear around their waist, it's a Rajasthani piece of jewellery. I recently learnt that after visiting Jaipur. (I'd love to know what it's called😅)
It's like Americans telling me "you can't drive to Georgia from Turkey because it's on a different continent" and telling me to Google it WHEN I'M SHOWING THEM A GOOGLE LAID PICTURE OF GEORGIA THE COUNTRY.
You specify that you mean the country though, right? Because as an American I thought you were talking about the state and I would tell you you were wrong if you didnt specify otherwise. Kind of crucial information for that conversation.
the picture of sebastian stan just reminded me that once on a thread about hiring romani actors for romani characters somebody was saying "well roma are european looking look at sebastian stan!!!" and i was so confused on where they got that info until they showed a screenshot where it said hes from romania and i had to just say romani people and romanians are VERY different.
The thing is in most Romance languages the word "Romani" literally means person from Romania, like spelled exactly like that. Romani is used correctly in English, because Romanians are called differently in English. But in Romance languages there can be misunderstandings because of it. Traditionally we used the correct translation of the word "gypsy" in each Romance language, for example I’m Spanish, in Spain we use Gitano/a, it’s embraced by most Roma here and not considered a slur, however the direct translation in English IS a slur because there already is a word for it, Romani (not interchangeable with Romanian) and every other Romance language has a similar spelling for the same word. I think saying Roma people is the safest option
You are right. In Romanian the singular of a Romanian is "Român" while the plural is "Români". And it comes from latin, singular Rōmanus and plural: Rōmānī meaning "Citizen of Rome". Even the name "Romania" comes from latin meaning "land of Romans" and was used by the Roman Republic to refer to the lands inhabited by Romans and by (Eastern) Roman Empire unofficially as "Ρωμανία", Romanized: Romanía. Edit: For Gypsies we used the word "Țigan" but we have also the word Rromi with two 'R' and the sound is different to not create confusion👍🇷🇴❤🇪🇸
In Hebrew we actually say Romani as singular Romanian (male). The female form is Romania. *the same way we call the country. We actually don't really have a word for Romani people, at least as far as I know, so I just say Roma.
I'm glad you explained this, although I never thought they were related...But I do know it offends Romanians to be called LITERALLY ANYTHING other than Romanian or MAYBE Balkin.
Romani comes from Rom, which comes from Dom, which in ancient Indian languages means "people/humans". They settled in many countries including Romania, many holding Romanian citizenship. Romanian comes from Roman, which comes from Rome, which in Latin language is Roma, and Romanian language is a Latin-based language like Italian, Spanish, French, etc. The two words are just coincidentally similar in sound and spelling.
Pana si indienilor le este rusine ca sunt asociati cu voi, nu mai fiti mandri ca nu aveti un motiv de ce sa fiti =))))))) mizeriile pamantului ce sunteti. Pe unde calcati numai probleme cauzati, inca va mai si mandriti online , un pic de rusine nu aveti?
correction: not enslaved in Romania. Romania was divided into 3 regions back then, each controlled or occupied by. a foreign empire, and did not exist as a nation. romanians did not enslave romanis,, they did not have autonomy in their own nation.
@@sonicboom6893 that's an absolving way to nitpick. That's like saying there weren't slaves in North America because it wasn't a unified Country that went by the name America ..
@@taylorjoseph4153Romanians did not have properties or belongings...they were slaves themselves...the only difference is that they were in their own country.
@@cypher221 You can express your opinion without belittling what others are saying, and wow... that slur was unnecessary. Ottomans did take slaves from romanian territories , especially young children, to indoctrinate and train them as janissaries (think about Vlad Dracul and his brother). Except that, although the romanian territories weren't under direct occupation, every leader was chosen by the Gate, and they had to obey and serve the Sultan. The tribute was collected by these named leaders and send regularly, or they would've been immediately removed. So, although Romanians weren't slaves in the way Romani people were, they also didn't have autonomy or possessions...they couldn't afford to feed their own families so, except the monasteries or the wealthy "boieri"….they didn't afford having slaves.
lmao I love the "I already done googled it." Oh, ok, well I guess you told us. That changes everything!…Hey y’all, don’t listen to this guy that actually grew up in the culture. This other random person over here just googled it. They are now the one we should consult when we have any questions about Romani language, culture, and history. 👍 It was nice knowing you, florida.florian ✌️
Why is it that when people are ignorant and wrong, they're so often _aggressively_ ignorant and wrong? You can't tell 'em nothin'... they already "did their research" and think they're the smartest person in the room hahahaa. 🙄😅
I tried explaining this to someone who had the g-word in their profile name and said they got the okay from their Romanian partner. From what I recall not all Romani people dislike the use of the word, or are okay with it in contexts like reference to names of animal species with the word in them, but I was like…that’s not the person to ask about it🤦♀️
Bro you should add subtitles they are very important. You know sometimes people see the video without earphones and at public place , so those fancy subtitles help a lot.
It's the audacity of the commenter for me 😂 like, my friend...here is a real life Roma who did a whole video on Roma/Romani and their proper usage. And then you, who Googled something. The more I wash these videos and read comments...I appreciate you more. You're doing amazing, sweetie. -your Black American cousin😊
People know that there, their and they’re are 3 different things, but still refuse to accept that Romani doesn’t mean Romanian. Even though they could Google it in about 2 mins, instead of arguing about which words are or are not slurs. 🙄🤷🏾♀️
The way I'm crying at your videos bcuz only just a few years ago there was no real records to be found of who we are and now there is so much more being done and talked about considering our past and still nobody knows just how much of our history exists and still we are stereotyped and are stuck in that box of being racially profiled like how we've been continuing to be for years please continue educating and thank you
nah but the sheer confidence this person had to say "i already googled and researched it" to a person who probably knows more about THEIR culture and heritage than a f-ing search engine 💀
Hi I discovered your channel recently and wanted to say how much I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos. I'm from the UK and know we have a Romani population. I have always been curious about Romani culture but it's so hard to find anything I can trust, there is so much disgusting racism just casually used wherever I look. Could you recommend any books or other CZcams channels that I can supplement your videos with?
I’m from the uk and am Romani myself and honestly Idk if it just come with being “different” but the amount of racism that goes on strictly in the uk towards Romani people is insane. Like I’m relatively light skin in winter but when I catch the sun I get so much darker to a point that’s it’s noticeable that I’m not white. It’s just weird to be in a place where I experience getting called dirty skin or told to go have a bath and in the next breath I’m told I’m not dark enough
@@russgardnon9284 My god thats awful. I am so sorry. Racists do love catagorising people so if you don't fit into their version of X nationality/race then they have an issue with it. Its so fucked up. What is UK Romani culture like?
For real, I’m American, and I studied in England for a year about 10 years ago and the sh** some people said to me point blank left me catching flies 😦. Like obviously we’ve got mountains of issues with racism, and it varies by region, but England was the only place I’ve been where people has just flat out said, “they’re bad people,” about a racial or ethnic group instead of trying to insinuate it- and then they even defended it instead of backpedaling! May good things and better times come your way 💚
I'm also from the UK and in addition to the gross stereotypes and totally unabashed racism towards our Romani people our government has now passed a bill that essentially criminalises the traveller way of life and gives police powers to seize their homes. It's called the PCSC bill and while it became known as the anti-protest bill the affect it's having on traveller communities and especially Romani people is barely given any attention. Unfortunately due to long unchallenged racism and the fuel added by harmful media representation there's a culture that allows this kind of discrimination.
@@Uffda.I’m American living in England (only ever in small cities like Cambridge and now the English countryside, but I love to travel around the country so have a wide knowledge of different regions), and in my experience the US is 10x worse when it comes to racism against black people than England and a few other European nations, but Europe in general is much worse when it comes to hatred of Romani people. There are many reasons why this is the case (and why their opinions are supported by negative experiences with them across Europe).
Same with Irish travellers. People think they're just Irish, but they have distinct dna from the Irish. They marry the British gypsies of Romani decent. My grandad was an Irish traveller.
This is a uniquely American issue. People in Europe know that Romanian does not mean Romani. If you said to a Romani person and Romanian person that they are the same - they'd BOTH slap you. Linguistically, culturally and ethnically, they are DIFFERENT. To the point when both groups actually give each other a lot of hate in Romania.
I’m definitely sure there are other countries that are not privy to different types of ethnicities across the world. Also there are many non Americans in the comments saying they did not know this.
The general Romanian people were pretty dang racist against the Romani people. I've enjoyed learning more about them outside of the racist stereotypes I was told.
I have never thought about the words being so close! Really enjoying your videos giving actual knowledge about a people I've never heard anything but degrading rumors about!
If you all have not heard Romanian- you must visit an Orthodox Romanian Christian church. The language is incredibly beautiful. A must do. Romani- I have never heard this language.
I really appreciate you teach me this. I will be coming back to this to get a refresher periodically. I have a hard time with words that sound similar sometimes, and these two get crossed in my brain. It really is helpful to hear it explained.
I always have to tie a word or concept to something tangible my brain can grab onto so maybe it'll help you. Romani - ends with I = individual because they're a group made up of many individual tribes another thing that helps me is think of it more in terms of a religion (it isn't but it's similar, in that anyone anywhere can be born Jewish if they're born into a Jewish family) Romanian - ends with N = nationality, which is what nation a person is from.
From what I know, romanian, originally româna, originates from the latin "romanus", since we are from roman and dacian descendance. Romans basically hid and/or erased most of the dacian culture, so the language is mostly lost, few romanian words originating from this language, the one of the Dacian Empire (Imperiul Dac). I personally don't know much words from dacian, if I know any. So yeah, romanians and romani are culturally tied by the land which they inhabit. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm eager to learn more.
I cannot stress how important videos like these are its amazing what you're doing just a few years ago google didn't know what our name was and even now Google is still confused but slowly people like you are coming out to talk and provide information for others ❤
In Italy they are called Rom because Romani is the word we use for people from Rome or the ancient Romans 😕 I always felt it was disrespectful to change a people's name just to avoid confusion in one's language. As for people from Romania, we use the word Rumeni, with an U, for the same reason (and I believe Romania was once called Rumenia? I'm not sure).
yes actually Romania, or the southern region of Romania, used to call itself "Țara Rumânească"(The Rumanian country), as well as the word Romanian with a "u" being used in english and french.
From Central eastern Europe and this always amuses me how others mix it up. But this was really helpful how to tell the difference to other people in English. ❤
I got curious and wanted to see what this person meant and straight up searched 'are roma, and Romanian the same' it instantly says no. So this person obviously didn't even Google it. Edit: I believed this video. I was curious to see what it said on Google.
OMG this gets on, my nerves LOL I am Rom, my Roma family was from Romania. We are Romani that lived in Romania. We more than likely do have some Romanian in our family but we are still Roma. The expressions when I try to explain this.... I can't LOL
The name "Romanian" probably stems from two things A) Romanians are ultimately descendant of Romans or locals that were assimilated into Roman identity (the latter is more likely) B) the Ottomans often called the Christians "Rum" which basically means "Roman" which also comes from the fact that the Greeks in the time of the "Byzantine" Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) identified as Rhomaioi until the 19th century which was when the modern "Hellenic" national identity was created from a nationalist project. There's also the added fact that the Balkans (with the exception of Wallachia and Moldavia) was called Rum Ili (Land of the Romans) often written in English as "Rumelia"
Thank you for explaining the connection. I live on the other side of the world in NZ, so it's hard to get access to reliable info here. FYI the audio on this short is very painful if listened to with certain headphones. Something about how the editing software has applied the cuts has corrupted the sound at cuts and turned it into a sharp ear-piercing whistle/squeak/crackle that is much louder than the rest of the audio.
I’m Romanian and I’m so disappointed that the Romani culture isn’t respected enough… people are either ignorant or malevolent when it comes to the Romani culture, to the point they assimilate it to other cultures instead of appreciating the complexity of this culture. I myself didn’t know that the Romani people were enslaved in Romania because the education system didn’t bother to teach us something of this importance… I’m awfully sorry that this happened to your people, sending love to the all Romani people from Romania 💞
Same here! I m Roumanian , its the first time I hear that they were enslaved in Roumania for 500 years. More than that, my first instinct was to be bothered by him talking this way about my country:)))
Thank u so much for the clarification. Ive always related to the romani culture. It was presented to me as "gypsy" & "Romanian" culture so idk there was a difference
I visited Romania and it's very obvious the difference between Romani Romanians and white Romanians (and many are mixed too!). You should share some photos of Romanians of both races wearing the stuff they wear daily, not the clothes for their festivals and people would see the difference. In the supermarket there I saw Romani girls in long skirts and cool scarves, and you dont see the white girls wearing that style.
Lol I live in Romania and I can confirm that what he says is 100% true. Mai sunt niște rasiști pe aici care încearcă să nege faptul că rromi sunt români, dar nu-i așa. Dacă ai cetățenie română, ești român, nu contează etnia. Și eu sunt chinese-indian, dar am cetățenie română și pentru că sunt mai white passing (cu machiajul gotic pe care îl port de obicei) nimeni nu-mi zice nimic. Dar când eram mică și arătam mult mai asiatic, mulți negau faptul că m-am născut aici și că am cetățenia, așa că înțeleg cum se simt rromi de la noi când sunt discriminați. Și eu am fost la fel, copiii albi îmi ziceau g*psy mereu. ://
I'm sorry you went through this but thats insanely cool that you're Chinese Indian and are Romanian. Whenever I visit I rarely see other ethnicities, it just makes you cooler and more unique
Yeah this is true. I am half Palestinian (Arab) half Romanian I live in Romania currently and people called me the G word as an insult due to my dark skin. I have heard this even with other dark skinned people Balkan people use this word as an insult
Thank you for making these videos!!!! I’m really happy to see a Romani person talking more about your culture, heritage, and history! I’m Romanian and I’m happy to see you bring more attention to the injustice the Romani minority experienced (and is still experiencing) in Romania and Europe in general! ❤
He uses often the victim card which is a pity because takes away a lot from the accuracy of information and credibility... Roma did suffer a lot and they were incredibly discriminated but they were not by far this romanticized version he is trying to portray.
Romanians were not slaves, you are talking about the peasant Romanians who were working for the rich Romanian boyars and treated like shit but they were not slaves to them. It was the same all over Europe, the peasant european class was trated badly by the nobility european class. You feel me, Andrada?
So like Romani is kinda like a Jewish person? Not a nationally but more like a more of culture and beliefs? I'm just trying to have something to compare it to make it easier for me to understand. I'm kind of an idiot.
Thanks for explaining! I always assumed that they are the same thing, except Romani are nomadic.I had no idea the Romani originated from India! I learned something new today thanks! :)
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Somewhat concerned ppl are STILL having to explain this.
Why? I dislike so much this arrogant attitude gosh, educating is ALWAYS important, and if someone doesnt know certain things it doesnt make them stupid or culturally insensitive. Not everyone grows up with the same education and the same social context, its fine if you don't know this type of information, and its good that people still make this type of video
@@liftedb9591 Jesus Christ, you have to either be American or Anglo because no way you mean this seriously
@@liftedb9591 i agree w/ this whole comment, except for the “culturally insensitive” part. You can still be culturally insensitive without having the intentions to do so. Not knowing does not negate or excuse the harm you can do.
@@liftedb9591 The information is not only widely available but well known over the last ten years.
@@warcrimeconnoisseur5238the fact that this is your response is laughable. She makes a good point, and you don’t know the intentions of the original commenter. 😂
Imagine telling someone that your one Google search gives you higher authority over the knowledge of their own culture 😭
😅 it's always the no pfp ones too.
What, but I Googled it😂 The Audacity
Google it and call it "research"
Sure you did the research 👀
Also they clearly didn’t google search properly if they concluded they’re the same thing
😂😂
As an Indian I didn't know this. Thank you for letting us know. This explained the similarity in facial features, darker skin tones, indic Language group and extremely similar dressing. We have Banajara people in Rajasthan who are nomads, similar to Roma, gypsy. This information blew my mind.🙌🏽
Are roman romani?? Or romanian roman.?
They are gypsies. So they are actually banjaras.
@@shalwinderkaur8276 exactly
@@shalwinderkaur8276 different communities. Like kaalbeliya dom banjara sindhi
As a gypsy myself I hate myself
I know they were different but never knew that Romani people were somewhat related to India, kind of embarrassing for me considering I am an Indian.
While I saw the similarities in our cultures but always thought we happen to share similarities.
The pejorative "g*psy" is because white people were like "Oh, you must be from Egypt!" *eye roll*
Well It's because we aren't made aware of the fact here. We are taught in schools the Aryan theory and that the earliest civilizations in India weren't started by the natives, but the nomads from all over the world who settled here.
They want us to believe that we didn't have the capabilities to have an amazing culture of our own, but that we should be grateful towards others for everything.
And I am saying this because I exactly remember what chapters I had in my 8th -9th grade social studies textbook
OMG same
@@ma.k4910 wth where do u live 💀 here in romania its common knowledge that gyspy ppl are likely to be related to indian ppl or any country around india
@@ma.k4910 That is horrible. Does it still happen there today?
This is so interesting because my mom is (ethnically) Punjabi while my dad is (ethically) Romanian Jewish. Punjab is where Roma genetics have been traced multiple times, while Romanian Jews interacted frequently with the Romani population in the country as well, as they both faced persecution and harsh stereotypes and then were sometimes imprisoned together in concentration camps when the Nazis invaded. It’s cool to learn how much overlap both sides of my family have had with the Romani even though neither side is ethnically Roma.
For example, the Romani language (from what I’ve heard) sounds a lot like Hindi and Punjabi, especially numbers. I know that it’s not taught to outsiders, but I saw a video of two Romani women speaking and I could understand some words and the numbers were almost the same as the Hindi words numbers (although I don’t want to learn - I just thought it was beautiful to hear and was surprised I could recognize the similarities). However, my dad’s family had a lot of actual interaction with the Roma - my great-grandmother left Romania before the Holocaust, but when she was growing up in a small Romanian village, the Jewish community would apparently buy goods from the Romani when they passed through as they were also persecuted by the Christian Romanians. So there are pictures of her sisters with Romani girls, trying on necklaces together and later photos of just my great-grandmother wearing these skirts with unique Roma designs (which are interestingly similar to Indian Kashmiri silk patterns) as an adult in America.
Anyways, great video dude, keep up the good work!
It's so fascinating how people can be half a world apart but still so intertwined. I wish I could see more pictures of my great grandparents when they were young... My heritage is German, I'm American. My great grandparents also fled Germany before the 2nd WW.
Look up Rajasthani tribal garments and from the Domari community.
Mostly these people are originate from Rajasthan not Punjab.
@@Chen-gl9hm I know the Roma have ties to Rajasthan as well, but they have actually shown consistent genetic localization to Punjab, even showing up in Punjab and not in Rajasthan in multiple studies. Since they were a nomadic group, one theory proposed for genetic markers showing up in Punjab and Rajasthan or Punjab and not Rajasthan is that they were Punjabi ethnically and migrated to Rajasthan but intermarried amongst themselves.
@@leeh4669 no body migrate to Desert.... People go to Green pasture !
To date gypsy culture is intact in Rajasthan. Whereas Punjab has not an iota of Gypsy people .
Their faces look more of Rajasthani people than Punjabis.
"i know more about your culture than you do, i already googled it" the audacity oh my god
"But I googled it" noooo, your Google dive did not make you the expert on another people. On another note thank you for these videos, they're super informative and beautifully done
They kinda are like Banjara people from Rajasthan of my country India though they are Indians but they don't live at one place always...they travel from places to places
Theres a sustained theory that gypsy ppl actually trace back to india
Romani people also from rajasthan and panjab.
@@gauravgameti3198 I seee
@@rupkathabanerjee2918 you can tell by their outfits alone! The chandelier looking thingy that they wear around their waist, it's a Rajasthani piece of jewellery. I recently learnt that after visiting Jaipur. (I'd love to know what it's called😅)
It's like Americans telling me "you can't drive to Georgia from Turkey because it's on a different continent" and telling me to Google it WHEN I'M SHOWING THEM A GOOGLE LAID PICTURE OF GEORGIA THE COUNTRY.
You specify that you mean the country though, right? Because as an American I thought you were talking about the state and I would tell you you were wrong if you didnt specify otherwise. Kind of crucial information for that conversation.
Georgia is a state in the US too and most people do not know it’s a country in America. I have a little Georgian blood
the picture of sebastian stan just reminded me that once on a thread about hiring romani actors for romani characters somebody was saying "well roma are european looking look at sebastian stan!!!" and i was so confused on where they got that info until they showed a screenshot where it said hes from romania and i had to just say romani people and romanians are VERY different.
The thing is in most Romance languages the word "Romani" literally means person from Romania, like spelled exactly like that. Romani is used correctly in English, because Romanians are called differently in English. But in Romance languages there can be misunderstandings because of it. Traditionally we used the correct translation of the word "gypsy" in each Romance language, for example I’m Spanish, in Spain we use Gitano/a, it’s embraced by most Roma here and not considered a slur, however the direct translation in English IS a slur because there already is a word for it, Romani (not interchangeable with Romanian) and every other Romance language has a similar spelling for the same word.
I think saying Roma people is the safest option
You are right. In Romanian the singular of a Romanian is "Român" while the plural is "Români". And it comes from latin, singular Rōmanus and plural: Rōmānī meaning "Citizen of Rome". Even the name "Romania" comes from latin meaning "land of Romans" and was used by the Roman Republic to refer to the lands inhabited by Romans and by (Eastern) Roman Empire unofficially as "Ρωμανία", Romanized: Romanía.
Edit: For Gypsies we used the word "Țigan" but we have also the word Rromi with two 'R' and the sound is different to not create confusion👍🇷🇴❤🇪🇸
I agree. Or at least spell it with a "y" (Romany), to differentiate...
In Hebrew we actually say Romani as singular Romanian (male).
The female form is Romania.
*the same way we call the country.
We actually don't really have a word for Romani people, at least as far as I know, so I just say Roma.
No it does,t it man
I'm glad you explained this, although I never thought they were related...But I do know it offends Romanians to be called LITERALLY ANYTHING other than Romanian or MAYBE Balkin.
i don’t mean to correct in a rude way, but **balkan!!
You put Sebastian Stan in the thumbnail….you hooked me haha I already knew the difference between them but still watched. Well played.
Sebastian Stan is Romanian :)
@@andreivanpopa yup! A Romanian talent and beauty!
I have been schooled. Thank you sir.
Romani comes from Rom, which comes from Dom, which in ancient Indian languages means "people/humans". They settled in many countries including Romania, many holding Romanian citizenship.
Romanian comes from Roman, which comes from Rome, which in Latin language is Roma, and Romanian language is a Latin-based language like Italian, Spanish, French, etc.
The two words are just coincidentally similar in sound and spelling.
Being an Indian I didn’t know this
Thanks for educating me 😁
Your features are instantly familiar to people from the Punjab. We are all brothers under the skin: thank you for your videos
Proud to be Romanian-Romani! Long live Romania! Long live India!
Pana si indienilor le este rusine ca sunt asociati cu voi, nu mai fiti mandri ca nu aveti un motiv de ce sa fiti =))))))) mizeriile pamantului ce sunteti. Pe unde calcati numai probleme cauzati, inca va mai si mandriti online , un pic de rusine nu aveti?
@@_ghf_777 *Termină*
@@_ghf_777 Hai ca ti-a sters Yt commentul, s-a rezolvat.
As a Kurd, I support my Romani brothers and sisters! Much love ❤
@saraothman6188 because you are Gypsies as well.
Thank you so much for this I hope it goes viral and you get a lot of followers because it’s time for people to be educated in this.
Thank you 🙏
Simply beautiful. Thank you for sharing & taking the time to explain this to people that do not know & who want to understand. I love Romani people. 💕
Thank you for telling the truth.
As a Romanian, I never knew that Romani people were enslaved in Romania. I thought they just migrated willingly.
correction: not enslaved in Romania. Romania was divided into 3 regions back then, each controlled or occupied by. a foreign empire, and did not exist as a nation. romanians did not enslave romanis,, they did not have autonomy in their own nation.
@@sonicboom6893 that's an absolving way to nitpick. That's like saying there weren't slaves in North America because it wasn't a unified Country that went by the name America ..
@@taylorjoseph4153 not the same.
@@taylorjoseph4153Romanians did not have properties or belongings...they were slaves themselves...the only difference is that they were in their own country.
@@cypher221 You can express your opinion without belittling what others are saying, and wow... that slur was unnecessary. Ottomans did take slaves from romanian territories , especially young children, to indoctrinate and train them as janissaries (think about Vlad Dracul and his brother). Except that, although the romanian territories weren't under direct occupation, every leader was chosen by the Gate, and they had to obey and serve the Sultan. The tribute was collected by these named leaders and send regularly, or they would've been immediately removed. So, although Romanians weren't slaves in the way Romani people were, they also didn't have autonomy or possessions...they couldn't afford to feed their own families so, except the monasteries or the wealthy "boieri"….they didn't afford having slaves.
"Won is in wonder, that makes them the same word" is the energy I'm getting from that commenter's take.
lmao I love the "I already done googled it." Oh, ok, well I guess you told us. That changes everything!…Hey y’all, don’t listen to this guy that actually grew up in the culture. This other random person over here just googled it. They are now the one we should consult when we have any questions about Romani language, culture, and history. 👍 It was nice knowing you, florida.florian ✌️
Got lured in by Seb Stan, stayed for the lessons in etymology.
Why is it that when people are ignorant and wrong, they're so often _aggressively_ ignorant and wrong? You can't tell 'em nothin'... they already "did their research" and think they're the smartest person in the room hahahaa. 🙄😅
I tried explaining this to someone who had the g-word in their profile name and said they got the okay from their Romanian partner. From what I recall not all Romani people dislike the use of the word, or are okay with it in contexts like reference to names of animal species with the word in them, but I was like…that’s not the person to ask about it🤦♀️
Im surprised so many people didnt know romani were originally a migratory indian group
Thank you very much, this explanation was very patient and was very helpful
Bro you should add subtitles they are very important. You know sometimes people see the video without earphones and at public place , so those fancy subtitles help a lot.
Your videos are super interesting, keep them coming
It's the audacity of the commenter for me 😂 like, my friend...here is a real life Roma who did a whole video on Roma/Romani and their proper usage. And then you, who Googled something. The more I wash these videos and read comments...I appreciate you more. You're doing amazing, sweetie. -your Black American cousin😊
Thank you for educating us all, good sir!
If anybody cares, Romania is likely named for the roman empire, specifically the eastern Roman (byzantine) empire
People know that there, their and they’re are 3 different things, but still refuse to accept that Romani doesn’t mean Romanian. Even though they could Google it in about 2 mins, instead of arguing about which words are or are not slurs. 🙄🤷🏾♀️
The level odacity this person has is unimaginable...
Learn to spell
The way I'm crying at your videos bcuz only just a few years ago there was no real records to be found of who we are and now there is so much more being done and talked about considering our past and still nobody knows just how much of our history exists and still we are stereotyped and are stuck in that box of being racially profiled like how we've been continuing to be for years please continue educating and thank you
nah but the sheer confidence this person had to say "i already googled and researched it" to a person who probably knows more about THEIR culture and heritage than a f-ing search engine 💀
Hi I discovered your channel recently and wanted to say how much I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos. I'm from the UK and know we have a Romani population. I have always been curious about Romani culture but it's so hard to find anything I can trust, there is so much disgusting racism just casually used wherever I look. Could you recommend any books or other CZcams channels that I can supplement your videos with?
I’m from the uk and am Romani myself and honestly Idk if it just come with being “different” but the amount of racism that goes on strictly in the uk towards Romani people is insane. Like I’m relatively light skin in winter but when I catch the sun I get so much darker to a point that’s it’s noticeable that I’m not white. It’s just weird to be in a place where I experience getting called dirty skin or told to go have a bath and in the next breath I’m told I’m not dark enough
@@russgardnon9284 My god thats awful. I am so sorry. Racists do love catagorising people so if you don't fit into their version of X nationality/race then they have an issue with it. Its so fucked up. What is UK Romani culture like?
For real, I’m American, and I studied in England for a year about 10 years ago and the sh** some people said to me point blank left me catching flies 😦. Like obviously we’ve got mountains of issues with racism, and it varies by region, but England was the only place I’ve been where people has just flat out said, “they’re bad people,” about a racial or ethnic group instead of trying to insinuate it- and then they even defended it instead of backpedaling! May good things and better times come your way 💚
I'm also from the UK and in addition to the gross stereotypes and totally unabashed racism towards our Romani people our government has now passed a bill that essentially criminalises the traveller way of life and gives police powers to seize their homes. It's called the PCSC bill and while it became known as the anti-protest bill the affect it's having on traveller communities and especially Romani people is barely given any attention. Unfortunately due to long unchallenged racism and the fuel added by harmful media representation there's a culture that allows this kind of discrimination.
@@Uffda.I’m American living in England (only ever in small cities like Cambridge and now the English countryside, but I love to travel around the country so have a wide knowledge of different regions), and in my experience the US is 10x worse when it comes to racism against black people than England and a few other European nations, but Europe in general is much worse when it comes to hatred of Romani people. There are many reasons why this is the case (and why their opinions are supported by negative experiences with them across Europe).
Im sinti and many people don’t understand that we are many different Roma people we have the Same language but different dialects ,
Same with Irish travellers. People think they're just Irish, but they have distinct dna from the Irish.
They marry the British gypsies of Romani decent.
My grandad was an Irish traveller.
This is a uniquely American issue. People in Europe know that Romanian does not mean Romani. If you said to a Romani person and Romanian person that they are the same - they'd BOTH slap you. Linguistically, culturally and ethnically, they are DIFFERENT. To the point when both groups actually give each other a lot of hate in Romania.
Unfortunetly not everyone knows.
I am romanian and have been told by people FROM EASTERN EUROPE that everyone in Romania is a gypsy.
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f I think that's judt intended to be an insult
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f That's just Balkan banter. You gotta roll with the punches and call them a slur too.
I’m definitely sure there are other countries that are not privy to different types of ethnicities across the world. Also there are many non Americans in the comments saying they did not know this.
As a Romanian i’m sorry but this is not true, a lot of Europeans don’t know the differences
The general Romanian people were pretty dang racist against the Romani people. I've enjoyed learning more about them outside of the racist stereotypes I was told.
U hold great knowledge
I have never thought about the words being so close! Really enjoying your videos giving actual knowledge about a people I've never heard anything but degrading rumors about!
Very educational.
Romani - from Roma, which means "person"
Romania - from Rome
This is super interesting. I appreciate you educating me, thank you.
If you all have not heard Romanian- you must visit an Orthodox Romanian Christian church. The language is incredibly beautiful. A must do.
Romani- I have never heard this language.
I really appreciate you teach me this. I will be coming back to this to get a refresher periodically. I have a hard time with words that sound similar sometimes, and these two get crossed in my brain. It really is helpful to hear it explained.
I always have to tie a word or concept to something tangible my brain can grab onto so maybe it'll help you.
Romani - ends with I = individual because they're a group made up of many individual tribes another thing that helps me is think of it more in terms of a religion (it isn't but it's similar, in that anyone anywhere can be born Jewish if they're born into a Jewish family)
Romanian - ends with N = nationality, which is what nation a person is from.
I remember a time when I asked myself this question.
This is a dope series 😎👍🏾
From what I know, romanian, originally româna, originates from the latin "romanus", since we are from roman and dacian descendance. Romans basically hid and/or erased most of the dacian culture, so the language is mostly lost, few romanian words originating from this language, the one of the Dacian Empire (Imperiul Dac). I personally don't know much words from dacian, if I know any.
So yeah, romanians and romani are culturally tied by the land which they inhabit.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm eager to learn more.
I cannot stress how important videos like these are its amazing what you're doing just a few years ago google didn't know what our name was and even now Google is still confused but slowly people like you are coming out to talk and provide information for others ❤
In Italy they are called Rom because Romani is the word we use for people from Rome or the ancient Romans 😕 I always felt it was disrespectful to change a people's name just to avoid confusion in one's language.
As for people from Romania, we use the word Rumeni, with an U, for the same reason (and I believe Romania was once called Rumenia? I'm not sure).
yes actually Romania, or the southern region of Romania, used to call itself "Țara Rumânească"(The Rumanian country), as well as the word Romanian with a "u" being used in english and french.
From Central eastern Europe and this always amuses me how others mix it up. But this was really helpful how to tell the difference to other people in English. ❤
I got curious and wanted to see what this person meant and straight up searched 'are roma, and Romanian the same' it instantly says no. So this person obviously didn't even Google it.
Edit: I believed this video. I was curious to see what it said on Google.
I am so fascinated by the brave and enduring Romini people. God bless you always
that why native Americans and romani people wear and look like each other they are both come from the same roots India 🇮🇳 ❤ 😍 💖
Native Americans aren't from india? why do you think they're called "native" Americans?
@@Aresofthevoid they are call red Indians why is that?
@@willowjade6140 it's because Christopher Columbus arrived at America but thought he was at Indies, aka Asia. Also don't say red Indians, it's a slur
Native Americans actually descend from Siberia before they entered the americas
Sounds like the situation with the people of india and native americans.
However, somehow, those two names are related.
Please make a detailed video..... Your way of explaining is very Concise
People are thiccc!! You may have to do this a few more times, Florian. Love to the Romani people from the Jews.
OMG this gets on, my nerves LOL I am Rom, my Roma family was from Romania. We are Romani that lived in Romania. We more than likely do have some Romanian in our family but we are still Roma. The expressions when I try to explain this.... I can't LOL
I wish I seen this video last week thanks for explaining
Very informative!! Thank you for teaching 💖
Thank for your videos about Romani people. I love to learn about history and I always wanted to know about the Romani.
Thank you for sharing this! I love your videos, they are very informative
The name "Romanian" probably stems from two things
A) Romanians are ultimately descendant of Romans or locals that were assimilated into Roman identity (the latter is more likely)
B) the Ottomans often called the Christians "Rum" which basically means "Roman" which also comes from the fact that the Greeks in the time of the "Byzantine" Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) identified as Rhomaioi until the 19th century which was when the modern "Hellenic" national identity was created from a nationalist project.
There's also the added fact that the Balkans (with the exception of Wallachia and Moldavia) was called Rum Ili (Land of the Romans) often written in English as "Rumelia"
Thank you for explaining this..i didn't know..
That cleared out my own long asked questions! Thank you!😊
Same thing as with Moldova and Mordovia. European country and indigenous people of Russia
Your videos are so educational, great job
I hadn't actually heard the term 'Romani' before, only 'Roma'.
Good, succinct explanation.
Thank you for explaining the connection. I live on the other side of the world in NZ, so it's hard to get access to reliable info here.
FYI the audio on this short is very painful if listened to with certain headphones. Something about how the editing software has applied the cuts has corrupted the sound at cuts and turned it into a sharp ear-piercing whistle/squeak/crackle that is much louder than the rest of the audio.
Idk wtf I am here but I so never knew this I feel so smart now
Thank you for shedding light on this ❤
you are giving unknown history lessons to us indians
I’m Romanian and I’m so disappointed that the Romani culture isn’t respected enough… people are either ignorant or malevolent when it comes to the Romani culture, to the point they assimilate it to other cultures instead of appreciating the complexity of this culture. I myself didn’t know that the Romani people were enslaved in Romania because the education system didn’t bother to teach us something of this importance… I’m awfully sorry that this happened to your people, sending love to the all Romani people from Romania 💞
Same here! I m Roumanian , its the first time I hear that they were enslaved in Roumania for 500 years. More than that, my first instinct was to be bothered by him talking this way about my country:)))
Thank u so much for the clarification. Ive always related to the romani culture. It was presented to me as "gypsy" & "Romanian" culture so idk there was a difference
what is winter soldier doing in this video
not related at all to the topic on hand but the way I screamed just now at seeing Sebastian in your video
I visited Romania and it's very obvious the difference between Romani Romanians and white Romanians (and many are mixed too!). You should share some photos of Romanians of both races wearing the stuff they wear daily, not the clothes for their festivals and people would see the difference. In the supermarket there I saw Romani girls in long skirts and cool scarves, and you dont see the white girls wearing that style.
meanwhile me a greek purposely calling them the same just to fuck with both of them
Lol I live in Romania and I can confirm that what he says is 100% true.
Mai sunt niște rasiști pe aici care încearcă să nege faptul că rromi sunt români, dar nu-i așa. Dacă ai cetățenie română, ești român, nu contează etnia. Și eu sunt chinese-indian, dar am cetățenie română și pentru că sunt mai white passing (cu machiajul gotic pe care îl port de obicei) nimeni nu-mi zice nimic. Dar când eram mică și arătam mult mai asiatic, mulți negau faptul că m-am născut aici și că am cetățenia, așa că înțeleg cum se simt rromi de la noi când sunt discriminați. Și eu am fost la fel, copiii albi îmi ziceau g*psy mereu. ://
I'm sorry you went through this but thats insanely cool that you're Chinese Indian and are Romanian. Whenever I visit I rarely see other ethnicities, it just makes you cooler and more unique
Yeah this is true. I am half Palestinian (Arab) half Romanian I live in Romania currently and people called me the G word as an insult due to my dark skin. I have heard this even with other dark skinned people Balkan people use this word as an insult
@@CZcamsaccount50512 You call them EastEuroid.
@@CZcamsaccount50512israel e pamant evreiesc
@@_ghf_777 ce e israel?
I thought everyone knew this 😮 Very good explanation... specially nowadays when there's so much hype related to race, nationality and culture.❤
Good to know. I heard there are many famous Romi people around the world but they do not openly discuss about it
Thank you for your channel
Thanks for the education
My family is Hungarian Romani I don't really know to much as I was born in America but I'm so proud of my people
It’s kinda like Pennsylvania and Transylvania. They sound similar, but they are two completely different things lol
Thank you for making these videos!!!! I’m really happy to see a Romani person talking more about your culture, heritage, and history! I’m Romanian and I’m happy to see you bring more attention to the injustice the Romani minority experienced (and is still experiencing) in Romania and Europe in general! ❤
Thank you I had wondered about this
India lost Romani people to Europe.but due to legacy of British, they inherited lot of Tibetan & independent Mongoloids'Lands in NE India
"I already googled it!"
*side eye*
AlReAdY DoNe GoOgLe my gosh the illiteracy
Please specify who enslaved them cause romanians were slaves in their own country at that time aswell
He uses often the victim card which is a pity because takes away a lot from the accuracy of information and credibility... Roma did suffer a lot and they were incredibly discriminated but they were not by far this romanticized version he is trying to portray.
Boierii și biserica erau proprietari de sclavi
Romanians(Români)were not slaves
Romanians were not slaves, you are talking about the peasant Romanians who were working for the rich Romanian boyars and treated like shit but they were not slaves to them. It was the same all over Europe, the peasant european class was trated badly by the nobility european class. You feel me, Andrada?
So like Romani is kinda like a Jewish person? Not a nationally but more like a more of culture and beliefs? I'm just trying to have something to compare it to make it easier for me to understand. I'm kind of an idiot.
Not really, we are more of an ethnoracial group kinda like African Americans if that helps you understand better
@@florida.florian ooooooo ok thanks!
Jewish is a nationality as well. Keep that in mind.
There is distinct DNA. The tests even show it.
Thanks for explaining! I always assumed that they are the same thing, except Romani are nomadic.I had no idea the Romani originated from India! I learned something new today thanks! :)
Yes, I remember my eldest sister and I reading Romani books on future predictions many times.😇👍🌺.
People who still believe in this are probably the same people who think Austria and Australia are the same thing