The Dacian Language, and Romania's pre-roman Kingdom
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Dacian is an extinct language, generally believed to be Indo-European, that was spoken in the Carpathian region in antiquity. In this video we will explore the world of Dacia, the rise of this ancient language and what caused its fall, as well as looking at what some of what has survived and comparing this language to those past and present.
00:00 Beginning
02:14 Where Was it?
03:41 A Brief History
06:57 What do we have of it?
10:51 Relationships
14:36 Modern Languages
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I've been away from my home country for over two decades, but as a native Romanian with questions about my language, I sincerely appreciate the efforts you've made for this video. I'm impressed and thankful.
The kindest comment I've had so far today.
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Dacian brothers,respect & much love from Albania 🇹🇩🇦🇱
160 dacian words are STILL in use in romanian language nowadays, and this is a prove that dacians were our ancestors
@@dand7763 Of course, respect to you
Greetingsto you bro🤝🏻 🇷🇴 🇦🇱
@@larisaa2332 😘
@@ylliriaalbania326 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romanian_words_of_possible_pre-Roman_origin
Hello from Romania! Your name tells me that you are Welsh. I appreciate and listen to some traditional songs in your language. Plenty respect towards you and thank you for teaching us more about ourselves!
Bună ziua! You are welcome, from Wales.
My father's surname is Pendrys, which is Welsh, but I took my matriarchal surname from my grandmother's line because I never knew my father. I'm here looking for the origins of the Wallachian Basarab dynasty and the tribe of Dan 😉
@@danielledegeorge2129 Basarab I won a great victory at the battle of Posada in the year 1330, which preserved Wallachian independence from Hungary and secured him well enough to found a dynasty.
@@BenLlywelyn thank you very much sir! I do believe that somehow everything you're talking about connects to the biblical tribe of Dan. Do you know where Basarab I originally came from? I'm also interested in the Order of the Dragon, which was modeled from the original Order of Saint George. Of course I'm interested because I'm "of George" lol. Your video on the word Wales being all over Europe is very interesting!
@@danielledegeorge2129 He was a Balkan Vlach. Maybe southern Romania, Serbia or northeast Greece. We don't know.
Felicitari pentru materialul realizat! Congratulations on the material created!
E bine să te bucuri.
The military unit that left the most enduring legacy at Birdoswald were the Dacians, who travelled with the Roman army from modern-day Romania. They carved symbols from their homeland into the fort walls and worshipped local deities as well as Roman gods.
Several videos could be made.
Birdoswald is awesome material I been reading a lot about it as my grandparents are Frisian from Friesland and they told me their grandparents told them that their grandparents told them of a family legend that our ancestors fought side by side with the Dacians at Birdoswald.Some Dutch and Romanian people today might be walking around with Frisian and Dacian DNA, perhaps?
@@user-pl4cw8yx7s it is possible. No one studied Dacian history outside their territory , even if there are few proofs they fought for Roman Empire in Britain and Africa. If you read how the Dacians look back then , Nordic people are more closely too their description then today Romanian : tall, blond , blue eyes .
@@kboomization the 2 most remote regions of Romania that were not conquered by the Roman Empire, and those regions are called Dacii Liberi, one is called Tara Motilor(Motz/Mots Land) in the Apuseni Mountains, and the other is called Maramures(/sh) beyond the Carpathian Mountains to the north; in both regions the inhabitants have blond hair, blue eyes and they have a braid by the side (by the ear) like the Vikings did.
Dacian is still present in every day language between romanians in those words that even italians can't understand. I remember one Italian guy say that he couldn't understand romanians speak amongst themselves, and yet romanians understood most of the Italian language as it was spoken.
Those words from "unknown " etymology , are the dacian words that romanians are still using until this day.
Words like : copil, moş, brânză, copac, pădure, cobor, a zgâria, aşchie, apus, ceață,etc.
Such beautiful and ancient words.
🤣cobor Meaning ?
@@peter-df6wl descend, going down. Its the present tense first person form.
Eu cobor scările. I go down the stairs.
Or you can say "Cobor scările" since because of its present tense form the pronoun "I" is implied.
@@vbmb thanks
@@vbmb copil has uncertain etymology. Mos could come from "annosus"(full of years), branza is likely to come from "brandeum", plural "brandea" which respects the laws of phonetical change in romanian and corresponds semantically because brandea ( a kind of cloth) was used to hold the cheese ( many cheese names come from the name of their container ex: burduf). copac is uncertain. padure comes from "paludem"(swamp) with methathesis resulting in padule(intervocalic l becomes r in romanian words, padule as a word exists in dislects in tuscany and sardinia). cobor is most likely from slavic( it evolved from pogori => po gora ).zgaria is from latin "scaber"( scab) verb "scaberare"(intervocalic b disappears in all words scaberare => scareare => zgariere => zgaria). aschie is 100% latin "astula" => "ascla" it exists in italian too "aschia". apus is just the participle of "a apune" coming from latin "apponere". ceata(fog) comes from latin "caecia" (blindness)
Thank you Ben, for your efforts and for this well-documented video.
You are welcome.
Thanks a lot for your video, very interesting and informing! 🤗
RESPECT AND THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO
Respect from Romania !!!
Well done !!!
Appreciated fellow.
Noi nu suntem daci
@@InAeternumRomaMater tu nu ești. Noi restul, suntem.
@@stevenrussellpascal Poate dacă tu ai probleme mintale.
Rom:"Tu" de la latină "tū"
Rom:"nu" de la latină "nōn"
Rom: "Ești" de la latină "ēscō"
Rom: "Noi" de la latină "nōs"
Rom: "restul" de la franceză "reste" și tot de la latină restāre
Rom: "suntem" de la latină sum (Eu sunt) și de la "sunt" (ei sunt)
Tot ce ai folosit tu acolo vine de la limba latină, care strămoșii noștri romani o vorbeau. Dece vine numele nostru "Români" din latină "Rōmānī" unde înseamnă Roman, și nu un nume dacic ca exemplu "Geți" sau "Bastarnai"?
Eu osă rămân un român, tu și "ceilalți" puteți să fiți daci, dar plecați din țara mea România, că nu este al dacilor dar al românilor care sunt latini!
Good job Ben ! Keep it up !
Great video, thank you for sharing this.
Thank you.
I discovered im like half romanian so im learning more about the country. It has facinating history.
Your presence is very soft and calming. 🙏
Thank you. I hope In can calm a troubled word, and turn a turning globe to learn more about our wonderful ancestries - like your Romanian.
@@BenLlywelyn indeed!
Hello there. As a person currently studying Dacian, it is not about the lack of resources we have studying it, it's about how many people are actually working on it. We have many place names where we can trace words back to, as linguists did with names. There is a big list of words that are Dacian, which are extracted from other languages, such as baltic, through comparison by a source. Though, the most common way of figuring out words from Dacian are by looking at names, places, plant names, etc. For instance, we have King Decebal, balas / balus meaning strong. Through linguistic science, we are able to put off multiple sentences. I myself have done some, but i can not assure they are 100% accuarate, as i do not know the correct wording in Dacian, nor do i know it's grammar properly, as these things are very hard to trace. Overall, Dacian is a very interesting language, which is sadly not being studied on. I believe if we were to study it properly, we would be able to get a moderate portion of it back, as we have many sources to get it from. We could trace it from Thracian, which it's sort of it's sister language, the baltic languages, which show to have significant Dacian influence as shown by words. We can also trace it to other indo-european languages of the past.
P.S: You did a great work on the video! You should, if you can, dwell up into it a bit some more. As a Romanian, i love learning about Dacia and the Dacians in general. Much appreciated!
Multumesc. I appreciate that. There is a lot to learn before I can make more Dacian videos, but I would like to.
Multumesc! Thank you for choosing this rarely approached subject. Dacians shurely made a great impression on the great Roman Empire since Rome is full of impressive statues of Dacian worriors, in fact the ONLY statues representing foreign warriors. There is even a column, Traian's Column, depicting in detail the Empire's war with the Dacians, again a unique case despite the countless wars waged by Rome.
Hello, I'm grateful for the video and also this comment, as both are specifying there are common words with north lituanian, I'm guessing you are referring to the samogitian pre lithuanian culture. I'm romanian and my girlfriend is lithuanian, and I'm curious of the common or similar words between the two languages or past ancestral links, as it's not specified any examples in the video. Thank you!
Why does balus mean strong? What real university has Dacian language studies?
I am very skeptical a guy called Dacia52 knows what study means or even Dacian study. If you study neo-nazi blogs or et
nationalist works, it doesn't mean studying. You actually have to be a top linguist and you need to know and understand at least all Romanian dialects, some Baltic dialects, some Ukrainian, Albanian, Bulgarian, Polish, Slovakian, Serbian, Greek to start your work.
Finding a language called Dacian from a Latin language with an uncertain origin and huge influences from many language groups is an almost impossible task for a group of top linguists, not a single guy.
Try not to study Romanian folkish nationalism ispired by the German Nationalism because most of the works are exactly that.
@@VasileIuga
A reply to your comment based on pure hatred and a TOTAL lack of applied knowledge would be pointless and useless. However, even for someone clueless on the issue, the fact that the mighty Roman Empire granted EXCLUSIVELY to the Dacian people/warriors/kingdom the honor to be represented with statues and monuments in Rome SHOULD normally, logically mean something... WHY would Rome consider ONLY the Dacians of ALL the countless number of peoples/kingdoms the Empire had fought with deserve SUCH HONOR??? Unless, of course, that someone is driven to make stupid comments by obscure, dirty reasons... Evidently, the POINT is, HOW can anyone think, let alone try to argue, that such a population/kingdom/king (Decebal) had NO developed language?!?!?!??
Great video! Thank you!
Wonderful video, multumesc! :D
Cu plăcere.
Some say that Thracians and Dacians/Getae are related. Herodotus: the Getae were "the noblest as well as the most just of all the Thracian tribes". Congratulations on the professional approach to this subject!
There is an interesting and strange cultural link between Romanian and British folk culture: the Morris dance is very similar to the Romanian "Calusarii" dance.
Morris dancing could come from many sources. My guess it is Saxon in origin, but I do not have much of a basis for this.
@@BenLlywelyn Morris dancing is Celtic, it was a ritual worrior's dance dedicated to Epona. In Vlach/Romanian folklore it's called "Călușari" or "Căluș" depending on the region. And "cal" in Romanian means horse, strenghtening the ties to Epona.
@@BenLlywelyn According to historians and ethnographers, "Călușul" is a very old tradition preserved in Romania before the penetration of Christianity into the Balkans and the Romanization of Dacia. It is a tradition with a pagan ritual, which survived Christianity and exists in similar forms in Bulgaria and Serbia, and somewhat explainably in the British Isles, taking into account the fact that the Celts lived for hundreds of years alongside the Dacians.
In old romanian fairytales, dragons are refered to as "Zmeu" in stead of the present adopted romanian term "Dragon", but if you research on google you will find that this strage word "Zmeu" is dragon.
Also I forgot to mention that the present meaning of the word "zmeu", usually spelled in lowercase, means kyte, probably because it flies like a dragon in the sky.
Kite dragon. Nice.
Zmeul zmeilor, the son of Muma Pădurii (Mother of the Forest), a fantastic creature with clear anthropomorphic traits: it is humanoid and has legs, arms, can ride a horse and has the desire to marry young girls, but can change form, spit fire. Then there is the balaur, a many headed dragon, with wings.
Zmeu eu un humanoid solzos cu aripi care se poate transformation in balaur Induci lumea in eroare.
@Spider Bird related with earth soil and understand zemja
Dragon is not instead of zmeu.
Thank you very much for your work!
A pleasure.
Nice video, good music and thought-provoking
This was awesome! I always wanted to know more about our romance speaking "cousins" in the east!
Proud of my ancestors! Respect from Romania!
Multumesc
Stanciu cu siguranta se tragea de bulgari. 100% sigur.
The Romanians have nothing to do with the Dacians, according to all real data, the Hungarians and Szeklers have much more to do with them!
@user-wn3uz8fl7k The Rumanians are probably not related to the Dacians. There's no data to show that except that they inhabit the same territory. However, the Secui, or Szecklers, as you called them, appear to be one of the Turanic people who came with the Bulgars in the 7th century. There are no data that shows anything related to Vlachs being to the north of the Danube until the 16th century (Neaşcu's letter written in the Vlach language with Bulgarian letters.)
@@ronaldmcmaster9148 Asa se întâmplă când vorbești o limba latina și vecini fac parte din popoarele migratoare...tu ești ultimul venit...și francezi sunt de fapt doar niște germani care au învățat ceva latina ..hai sa fim serioși..
Beautifully made!
Appreciated.
Great video!
Thank you very much.
Thank you for this. As a Transylvanian native, I’m very interested in the Celtic presence in Transylvania. If you make such a video, I’ll definitely watch it.
That is good of you to say. And I will make note. I don't know when I will make it is going on the list for after this Welsh History series I am doing.
@@BenLlywelyn I also find it intriguing that my DNA has 2% Welsh in it. Can’t figure our why. Maybe the Celts of old time? Or some mercenaries who came to the Romanian territory to fight alongside Michael the Brave? Who knows.
there are memes about vikings once ruling the whole world. Celts were also present all over the place until they were not anymore.
Transilvanian native ha a ha where was your great grandperesnts born??????????? somewere in valachia
as a romanian expert in history i want to say that dacian wasnt celtic
the issue with Dacian is that it was probably a direct predecessor of Latin/Romanian or at least brother language of Latin with few different words.... This can explain quick "romanization" of Dacian and Tracian population
Gaulish was clearly Celtic, but closer to the Latin branch of Indo-European, and this happened there. So it is possible.
Any proof for this?
@@petibatyonaah, there's a special group here claiming rights upon Latin.
@@petibatyo what proof do you need besides todays existing languages? There are pockets of "Dacians/Tracians" all over the Carphatian mountains range, not changing their ways and language for 1000s of years. we started mixing with modern Serbian, Bulgarian, Albanian, Turkish,Hungarian, Croatian, Bosinan, Montenegro,Greece population just 40 - 50 years ago.
@@petibatyo the writings of Ovid who was banished from Rome, are proof that the language was similar to the Latin of that time.
Very good video!
Thank you.
Great video, I never thought I'll be seeing one about the Dacian language!
Thank you kindly.
Yes, please do a video about the Celtics in Transilvania
It is on the list, just a matter of how to find the time to read more on it now.
I didn't see this video coming, it was a pleasure. Salve from Bukarest, and yes, Romanian language still preserve some Dacian words, about 200 in names, places, plants and rivers. For example: brusture, abur, Bucegi, Carpați, copac, doină, viscol and so on.
Some of them are very similar with Albanian and Lithuanian, which is strange and interesting at the same time, because cannot be found in others languages.
Thank you. Before Slavs came through Poland and down through Serbia there would have been a wide arch of languages from Albanian to Lithuanian which formed some kind of continuum to which Dacian appears to have belonged. Prussian held out longer up near the Baltic, as did something closer to Latin and Romanian along the Adriatic, but what was in Serbia, Romanian and Hungary has been so lost that we cannot link it back together and know where exactly Dacian was. Only that Romanian certainly does carry a lot of it with it.
@iumaser3219 simple. They are unic to romanian and are archaic. Ther are some words that are comen to albanian. So they most come from the same source. Traco dacian ilirian world. Somenthig like that.
@iumaser3219stop lying dude , Albanian is paleo-Balkanic language . If Albanians came after Slavs how on earth we ended up being Paleo-Balkanic speakers ?
@@erickbehari6740 Albanians are considered to be descendants of Illyrians, which is WAY before Slavs!
@iumaser3219 You are insane!
Thanks FOR the invested Time
It is paying off.
superb, thanks!
Welcome.
During the Dacian wars, Dacians talked to Romans without translators. This is visible also on Trajan's column in Rome. So there are some that say this was a fratricidal war between Dacians and Romans, their language being similar, but similar with vulgar latin, not standard latin. It's difficult to completely assimilate a culture in two generations (the span of the Roman occupation), so Dacian language might have had very big similarities to vulgar latin, making it easy to "latinize" Dacia
People likely spoke Dacian in the mountains for centuries. But all you need is the fertile lowland to turn Latin and you own the rest by sheer weight of economics and prestige. Change is not always war - it is slow, cultural.
@@BenLlywelyn Another aspect that makes the theory of rapid latinization disputable is that just a small part of current day Romania was occupied by the Romans. Free dacian tribes still ruled northern Transylvanua, Moldova, and part of Muntenia. Difficult to understand how they were also latinized in 100 years. Also, why were the Jews not latinized. It's still a very much debated subject.
@@cirsteat and don't forget to mention that dacians were the first to land on the moon ....
@@BenLlywelyn If this were true, the romanians should have ended up speaking 90% turkish, since turkish culture had a much bigger and direct impact compared to the romans. Please also note the natural barrier of the Carpathians, which would have limited any influence to go further north. Instead, both north and south have evolved rather homogenous
@@BenLlywelyn only 15% of Dacia was conquered...so the main stream theory is lacking logic, you must understand it was a political strategy to affirm we were talking latin, and that we were of latin origin...nothing further from the truth...
Very well put together sir Bravo 👏🏻
Wow. You are outstanding with those video clips presentations about Dacia and the Dacian language! Very well done!
Excellent stuff.
Thanks a lot for this! Great mysteries in this land and I am happy to hear them from other sources. Great! Looking forward to any more videos about this that you make!
I will in the future. Need to learn more.about it.
There is a common substratum coming from Thracian(Dacian), Illiryan, MAcedonian and Old Greek, common to all modern languages in the Balkan, called the Balkanic sprachbunde, or the Balkanic substratum.
Your, our common substratum is the old Steppe culture (you know, West of the Urals). so, beware how you speak bad things about Hungarians coming from the Ural area. Again: almost all people now living in Europe are descendants of the Yamnaya people: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture
I said almost because Basques, Hungarians and all Fino-Uralic (Ogur) people are OLDER inhabitants of Europe than people of the Yamnaya culture. I hope you will understand.
@@petibatyo Yeap. And first of them arrived in a space between actual Romania and Serbia some 7000 years ago (Vinca Culture). Taking in consideration the following spread of this population by DNA, you can follow them to the proto celtic/romance spaces....Thus logically the Vinca where a proto romance language! And Vinca were the ancestors of thraco/illyrian people!
Congratulations for your hard work.It’s obvious that you did a lot of research on this subject. I’ll like to watch a video about the Celts in Transylvania. By the way,I have subscribed to your channel.
I appreciate that. We will get a Celts in Transylvania video out by the end of this year.
Hello from USA. I am a Bosnian living in US since 93, i came here at 10 yrs old. I've always been fascinated with the origins, migrations and intermixing of the peoples of the European continent. Lately I've been watching a lot of videos on the history and origins of the Slavic people and there's some amazing stories. I especially get excited when i hear of my ancestors kicking the Roman's asses, rather original, Western or Eastern empires (Byzantine). I am proud of the Illyrian heritage throughout the Balkans as well as Slav, Celtic, Dacian, Thracian, ancient Macedonian and all the other amazing cultures, civilizations, tribes, customs and warrior pride our ancestors possessed. We are all tied together through passage of time and contact. We are all brethren. Peace be upon all Balkan people past and present.
Well, nice to see your video.
Thank you.
I am Roumanian and I thank you for your serious and beautifull video!....I lived in 5 countries and 7 diferent cities in UE in the last 32 years and had to learn many different languagges. But from some years now,I got that strange feeling that my mother tongue has something very special and I am sure has nothing to do with any kind of cheap nationalism,which I usually dislike....there is something about rumanian which bring me in a very original place and having the opportunity to see it from outside right now, give me an objective view about it. I am surre it is a language which in a future will change our vision about Europe history and will bring a fascinate world to our awareness.....thank you again!
Romanian is special, and I would like to explore it further. How it formed is not clear but its influences make it quie different ans as you said, puts you in another space.
Limba noastră... Mihai Eminescu!...
....... din adâncuri!...
Din tată în fiu fără alfabetizare... probabil foarte veche...cu rădăcini în epoca de piatră!...
@@ovidiumarinelsava7928 Nu orbi patriotismul vrednic cu păcatul mândriei.
@@BenLlywelyn în
Discutam un adevăr istoric prăfuit de interesele meschine a puterilor social politice și militare chiar!
În general știu măsura între fanatism și un dialog ... s-au un schimb de idei!...
Ne naștem cu scopul de a „omeni"... în funcție de contextele date... în cazul unei pocăințe fanatice... intrăm în alte păcate!...
Mulțumesc pentru sfat!
Multă sănătate!
Thank you Ben Again for sharing your hard studies ! I found that the mapping of maternal Haplogroup Is matching the understanding of language origin . The L, L3, N, R. And last one:U. The last one is U which shows that was a language in Europe before Indo-European language . And the location of U is very interesting! I am talking about branching from U !
You are welcome.
GREETINGS from Romania!!👏👏
Cheers!
Foarte frumos clipul.
Mulțumesc.
@@BenLlywelyn I don't know about the language similarities, but thracians and the getae were related as herodot writes "According to Herodotus, the Getae were "the noblest as well as the most just of all the Thracian tribes".[46] When the Persians, led by Darius the Great, campaigned against the Scythians, the Thracian tribes in the Balkans surrendered to Darius on his way to Scythia, and only the Getae offered resistance.[46]"(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getae), also Queen Tomiris who was a messogetae, who killed Cyrus after Cyrus killed her son with a trick, it is said to have been estabilshed in present day Constanta, old name Tomis, derived from the name of that Queen, (According to Jordanes (after Cassiodorus), the foundation of the city was ascribed to Tomyris, the queen of the Massagetae (the origin and deeds of the Goths):[12]) ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constan%C8%9Ba )
Yes grumaz .bukur .buza aur. Albaniatu❤❤❤
If you like Roman-Dacian history, you should take a look at Galerius Valerius Maximianus, and I'd really like to see a video about him!
There is quite the wikipedia article on this fellow to read. Thank you.
@@BenLlywelyn The Arch of Valerius in Thessaloniki is worth looking into as well. Roman soldiers with traditional Dacian tarabostes hats. The Dacian draco military standard sculpted all around in multiple places, in one instance with the Roman aquilla logo on top of it.
The Arch of Constantine also has 8 Dacian statues, probably to commemorate Constine the Great's re-conquest of Dacia in 336 AD. (You'll find this if you'll look into Constantine's German and Sarmatian campaigns).
Also as a side note; whatever source you run into about Romanian related history that comes from the Hungarians should be taken with a grain of salt or two. They're notorious about trying to establish some supposed 'Scythian cousin' or another in the territories ahead of our ancestors even though they're just 9th-10th century Ugrian newcomers.
@@akuleet6029 1,000 years ago and more is a long time, no? I realise that Romanians and Hungarians have a few issues to work out together.
@@BenLlywelyn As someone that frequents Quora quite often I can tell you that some things hardly ever change. Might be just some fringe elements of our societies nowadays but we're still at it.
We can hardly agree on who was Romanian and who was Hungarian for instance.
John Huniady, Vlad the Impaler (yes, some Hungarians will even claim the Impaler as Hungarian, whatever's floating their boats lol), etc.
Truth be told Vlacho-Hungary was a thing for a while.
We'll never agree on who was 1st in Transylvania, according to Magyar sources i.e. a complaint from the Hungarian nobility from the Transylvanian national assembly of 1744; we were 'foreign and new comer' even in the 18th century. Again; whatever's floating their boats. As far as we're concerned they're the sole new comers in the whole region.
They will claim we're not the Dacians. Who knows? It's been 2000 years already.
But then they'll also say we were not the Romans. A Romance speaking people with clear historical ties to the Roman empire. But no, we weren't Romans. Yet somehow they were Huns because Avars mixed the Huns and the Magyars somewhat mixed with the Avars even though genetic studies*(can find the sources on the Pannonian Avars wiki page) show that only the elites of the Pannonian Avars were actual Avars and the commoners were local Europeans. Besides the Pannonian Avars(the elites) had a degree of Mongolian ancestry, which doesn't show in neither the Magyar conquerors neither the modern Hungarian populations.
"Numerous ecclesiastical writings contain useful but scattered information, sometimes difficult to authenticate or distorted by years of hand-copying between the 6th and 17th centuries. The Hungarian writers of the 12th century wished to portray the Huns in a positive light as their glorious ancestors, and so repressed certain historical elements and added their own legends.[15]: 32 " [Attila's wiki page]
In fairness DNA tests do detect a Hun connection;
"All in all, Török and his team’s findings seem to support the well-known hypothesis, according to which the conquerors could have been a small group among the Onoğur Bulgarians, who originated from Middle Asia and previously had a tight cousinship-alliance with the Huns". [dailynewshungary com/genetic-study-proves-hungarians-descendants-huns]
=> The detected genetic ties may be pre-exisitng to the migrations which is not surprising given the history of the tribes and in which case we're not talking about Attila's Huns.
And if we say Romans were still 1st in the region even if you were the ancestors of Attila's Huns they'll be all like, the Sarmatians are our ancestors too because Scyths. It's just a ridiculous never ending back and forth.
By their logic everything and anyone that was even remotely related to Rome/ (Scythia) is and always has been Italian/ (Hungarian) or something among those lines. And it seems to be making perfect sense for them too, just don't ask me how.
@@BenLlywelynthere's no issue between Romanians and Hungarians.
It's just political issue.
I've been living in Hungary for about 3 years, I learned quite a lot of the language, so I was able to,,see",to understand that the simple people don't care who was first or last in Transylvania.
My brother lives in Hungary for about 30 years now...NO ISSUES AT ALL!!
I was born in Transylvania on Halloween day,by the way 😅
Great video! Much love from modern day Dacia. 💙💛❤️
Thank you very much that you took the time to make the video, I'm Romanian and I didn't knew about the Celtic connection.
Multumesc!
@@BenLlywelyn Gyda phleser! Mae'r bennod gyda'r ieithoedd a siaredir yn Israel hefyd yn ddiddorol iawn. Rydych chi wedi ennill tanysgrifiwr newydd :)
Nice video.
Thank you.
Thank you very much . All respect and good things and I want to visit Nicolae Iorga's monument in Albania :D
Very kind. Thank you indeed. B
I like your narration voice and style. Thanks for covering this obscure but interesting topic.
Very kind of you Sir / Madam. Thank you.
good point; i'll watch more videos just because his voice is curing me
in regards to the link between Dacian and welsh, there is a video by Tomorrow's world view called ''Interview: Who Are the Celts?'' that i think might be of great interest to you,
thanks for the video!
Hello from Bucharest to you and to all Dacian Brothers. Thank you for this.
Hello to you.
i like he takes the subject starting with foundations and environment of it's origin
so smart and rational way to seek truth and present it
Dzięki.
the dacian/thracian grammar is preserved in the so-called "balkan sprachbund"
Probably yes.
Balkan sprachbund is not a language but an area in wich languages in that area shows similaritities or have inherited common features .
Very interesting study
Cheers, thank you.
Congratulations on a well done video. It is good to see more people interested in a a forgotten language that left is mark on the Balkans . The language probably had influence on both sides of the Danube, but more linguistics research is needed.
Diolch / Thank you. Appreciated.
As a Romanian I want to thank you for this video. It's true, there is no written evidence of the language and it's a shame, but this, like you said, makes Romanian so much more interesting. Good luck with your Romanian lessons. I would suggest to learn the language even more as there are many books in Romanian about the Dacians or "Daci" (pronounced Dachi). Romanian and Albanian are not related languages, even if the underlayer is similar, but the Romanian is a Romance at its core. The Romanization was very strong and quick in the province of Dacia Romana and, from there, it expanded into the neighbouring territories. As a side note, Republic of Moldova is also a Romanian speaking country. We don't need translators to understand each other. Hopefully, one day, Romania and Moldova will be reunited. Fingers crossed.
Multumesc frumos.
The connection with Welsh is interesting. Don't forget that there were Dacians in the Roman Army sent to Britan (after Dacia was conquered, although not entirely, by the Roman Empire), and there are documents and archeological proofs. Some of them in the north, at the line between England and Scotland, and some other in other places. The city of Chester was also named Deva ( in Dacian means forthress), and after that Chester, which comes form the latin ...castrum, which measn forthress.
Yes there is.
@@BenLlywelyn there îs only the true,Deva means(dava)alias castrum.,fortress.many Earls ,and dux are dacians but romans. You have,celtics,dacians,jutes,angles,saxons,Franks Norman,after Hastings.Normans are varengs tribs from Denmark, 😊❤❤❤❤
Alba also?
Colling them self's Valahian-Legions, în Roman army...
Este foarte interesant! Nu știam aproape nimic despre limba dacică!
Mulțumesc. Da adevărat.
I dont have Romanian nation but I have Romanian citizenship and I am very very proud of this. I love the country I born and lived until 22 and, for me, it is the most beautiful place on eatth with many many special people.
I am glad you love your country.
Salut from a Transylvanian living in Ireland and many many thanks for this beautiful unique in depth Dacian language documentary, I must add that Dacians had a language spoken by everyone but only written by priests, ref. Tartaria and Sinaia tablets who were deciphered by prof Stefanov and proved to be Daco-Geto language, this is a good lesson for our friends and neighbour's Hungarians who claim they were first in Transylvania...your maps in the video clearly shows Dacia and no Hungary around year 100, excellent video, thanks a million!
Cheers Paul. Mulțumesc.
You are not directly related to the Dacians. There’s a small matter of a 1000 years gap between the disappearance of Dacia and the first Wallachian principality of Radu around the year 1300. Every towns and villages in Transylvania has Hungarian name which you have translated to your language.
@@gabor247 Gabor friend and neighbour as much as this irritates hungarians...me and all my relatives from Transylvania never spoke your language and always been Orthodox...Hungarians enslaved native romanians same like Americans did with native indians and same Brits did with Irish...the gap exist because Hungarians erase all documents and destryed proof of Gelu, Menumorut and other voivods after conquering Ardeal (Transalpina)
@@paulclaude7323 First of all it’s Erdély not Ardeal. This is what I’m talking about. You’ve translated all the Hungarian names in Transylvania the rivers, the mountains the towns and villages. Erdő means Forest in Hungarian. Ardeal doesn’t mean anything in your language. You came to Transylvania because it was more prosperous than the shitlands east of the Carpathians the real Romania.
@@gabor247 we translated all names back to Romanian because you put false magyar names that no one can read or like...this is how we got revenge, in Transilvania majority of population was always romanian or nativ local sheppards who have nothing to do with your culture, language or customs... be happy in you Panonic Hungaria and don't try to steal our land again!
I think that dacian language has common ancestor with latin. As a romanian I can understand fairly easy italian french and spanish. Although if we consider that the location of Romania is quite far from Italy, Spain and France, and that our language spoken today is the same in Wallachia Transylvania and Moldova we can deduce that our language had deep roots which weren't cut by anyone which conquered us. Sure we inherited words due to trades from Slavs Turks and all the other nations but that doesn't mean the language was changed. Phonetical words like are adopted by all the countries, even China adopted Chocolate, as we adopted "tea" or "ceai" from Chinese "Cha" which fonetically both Chinese and Romanian word for "tea" are quite similar. The Rome Empire conqured just 1/3 of Dacia with 2 legions. Those legions weren't even fully composed of romans as in the entirety of the roman empire there were only 8 percent romans of Roman origin. Romanian official theory is that these 8 percent of romans were able to latinize the entire Dacia, not just the 1/3 of Dacia which they actually occupied. considering the fact that Romans were not able to latinize Italy which is near them it stands to reason that they didn't latinize any of the occupied territories. Romans just wanted the territories for resources and that's all. If you read about "Badea Cartan" that went in 19th century AD and rested at Trajan's Column, Italians wrote the very next day that a Dacian came down from the Column to rest. I think the fact that even the clothes not the appearance didn't changed and the fact that what we call today romanian language was not changed neither by Ottomans not by Slavs it is a living proof that dacians never dissapeared and that we just poorly selected a name for a country which doesn't represent us properly. Our correct country name is Dacia.
Even in the 16th century the Italian general Giovanni Battista Castaldo that first unified Dacia (Wallachia, Transylvania and Moldova) in 1551 called himself "Daciae Restitutori Optimo".
Maybe it is just that like Gaulish and Latin had a common Indo-European root, so did Dacian.
@@BenLlywelyn Could be. An interesting fact is that Romanians and syrians have quite similar face features, and there was an ancient country near ancient Syria called Lykaonia which had wolf on their coins, the very same wolf 🐺 that is present on Trajan Decius Dacia coin which was used to create the "drake staff". Wolf is a symbol for Dacia. Could be interesting to find out that Dacians are Lykaonians that migrated in the 4th century BC. History is a fascinating thing as there are many possible theories. Another coincidence is Lykanians had troubles long before first kings of Dacia were widely known.
This is a great comment overall. The discussion around Badea Cârtan and Trajan"s Column gives a nice hint about the fact that Dacian language was not "dead" but "survived" through what is called today Romanian. There is one important aspect to point out here about the oral tradition/folklore, which are so strong in Romanian and clearly of Dacian (and even older) roots. The oral dimension is unique and only people who travelled and spent some time in all of the Romanian regions can deeply understand this. Now, to keep a long story short. Here are some questions that may be a good basis for a new post from @BenLlywelyn:
1. What is the origin of the Latin/Romans language? Romans were not locals from Italy as they came by the sea (like men only in two-three ships), they settled down because locals were nice guys, not warriors like the Romans...
2. What is the origin of the Romanian language? The so-called "latinization" does not stand the logic of the 1/3 of Dacia occupied by Romans for and this less than 200 years... who can believe that some of the free Dacians were comings across the mountains and forest to learn latin, then bring it back home to the free Dacians and teach them the language of the enemy? And then, that "new" language was preserved until today, despite all different influences in Valahia, Moldova and Transilvania, across the centuries... Funny story, right?
3. How one can explain that Romanian language is similar in all the three historical regions, while Romania is a pretty "young" country as such on the map? Of course, there are some local words and specific way of pronouncing one or other (e.g. "chi" instead of "pi" in Moldova) but overall, all of these people understand each other very well.
@@georgevulpescu2671 The origins of the Romanian Language would make an interesting video. If controversial!
Thank you very much x
Kind.
The Romanian language, as well as the old Italic languages which include Latin, some Romance languages, as well as the Celtic languages come from a single mother tongue that we can call (proto-) Pelasgian. This mother tongue was formed thousands of years ago, being the descendant of the Proto-Indo-European language whose speakers entered Europe about 9000 years ago. Thus, we can conclude that the Romanian language, as well as the Romanian people, were formed long before we could talk about the Romans or the Thraco-Dacians of the historical period. The Romanization theory is not valid. The Romans conquered 1/6 of our Dacia. But the Romanian language is spoken correctly even 1000 km from the conquered area and where the Romans never reached. Recent paleolinguistic studies explain. It is not from the Romans that we have the Latinized language, but long before them . The common European fund, even for Romans.
Romanian retained the case system and Latin grammar, while the other Romance languages developed prepositions and completely abandoned the case system.
This means that Romanian is the closest language to Latin in terms of grammar.
Other people who hear Romanian think it sounds closest to Latin. .
Romanian is the only Romance language that still retains a masculine and authoritative sound, as Latin does.
Case declensions in Romanian are inherited directly from Latin. . Italian doesn't even have case declensions.
In the Sardinian language there are many purely Romanian words that do not exist in Latin or Italian. Likewise in the Friuli area of northern Italy. There are populations that migrated in the distant past (even in antiquity) from the Danube area, Romania , the ancient Dacia.
In the Sardinian language there are many purely Romanian words that do not exist in Latin or Italian. Likewise in the Friuli area of northern Italy. likewise, the Romansh language of Switzerland. There are populations that migrated in the distant past (even in antiquity) from the Danube area, Romania, ancient Dacia. Words found only in Romanian, non-existent in Latin, Italian and other Romance languages. Things are more complicated and relate to the true history of ancient Europe.
Hi there, it is true that Romanian is quite conservative and retaining elements of Latin which other Romance languages lost. I just need to note that Indo-European came into Europe sometime between 5000 bce and 3000 bce - and did not encompass all of Europe for a long time as Uralic, Etruscan, Basque types and others existed for quite some time to, adding an underlayer to each branch of Indo-European in Europe as they formed and diverged, possible under the influences of the pre-IE languages.
@@BenLlywelyn Our history begins 7,500 years ago. We are the only autochthonous people in Europe and the descendants of the Neolithic civilizations that have followed one another on this territory. Cucuteni, Gumelnita, Vadastra, for over 7500 years, proven by paleogenetics. 2012 study from Germany, Institute of Anthropology. On the territory of Romania and in the Balkans, there were brilliant, Neolithic civilizations, up to the Thracians, the Getae and the Dacians, their close ancestors. Our museums have archaeological evidence from all these eras. First of all..a superb ceramic. Look for Cucuteni pottery, 7500 years old. From here the Dacian and Getae population migrated to the west of Europe and thus new nations were created. A lot of evidence, documents. The ancestors of the Getae were called from the 4th century in writings, Goth . And the Goths, that is, the ancient Getae built Europe.
I´m also noticing a connection between Romanian and Albanian. I happen to speak Romanian too and sometimes I react to Albanian words. Mostly ancient words from before the Romans, like plow or fence. Where can that come from? From Illyrian and Dacian.
A spectrum across the Balkans we have lost but exists now in a few scattered words in Albania, Romanian and less so Lithuanian.
interesting, in Bulgaria we also have the word Branza. It is a special type of cheese, I would put it more towards the fresh cheeses almost like crud. It is made originally from sheep’s milk fermented in a lambskin leather pouch.
Tasty.
brindza is the same in Slovak.
Well it may also be due to Bulgarian imperialism 😆. We (Romania) were part of the 1st Bulgarian empire like 1000 years ago.
@@tudogeo7061
Yes, you were subjects of the Bulgarian Empire, without any special leading role.
@@petibatyo and then you lost your little empire and became subjects of the Ottoman empire. Also without any leading role. Any special point you're trying to prove?
Thank you🎉❤
Cu plăcere. With pleasure.
Thanks!
That is much appreciated. Thank you kindly.
An honest opinion as a romanian? Yes great presentation and thank you so much for promoting an underrated country.
Many thanks. Appreciated.
@@BenLlywelyn this was such a great video. I am a romanian living now in the USA. This video can be usefull for people here to learn a about our history
Many thanks with gratitude for your interest in Dacian and Romanian history !
Very kind.
Super!
Thank you.
As a Romanian what really bums me out is the fact that the Dacians and even later ancestors of ours didn’t bother to write stuff down. We have absolutely incredible knowledge and details about Romans and Greeks because they wrote things down.
Writing the history and other knowledges down required extensive resources, and years of focus in various fields. Those beyond the Mediterranean simply did not have the energy yet to spend on these things. And then the ability came they had to focus on fighting instead.
@@BenLlywelyn That’s a great explanation. I thought they just weren’t as… intellectual.
Poate scriau mult dar doar pe... scoarta de copac sau papirusuri.
Grecii au scris despre ei " Dacii nu vor sa scrie nimic, susținând ca scrisul omoară amintirea."
You are wrong, for sure they wrote and for sure there are writings somewhere....but they who rules are not interested to open new perspectives on what we are today. The history we know is the one that we have to know
Wonderful. Mol-dav(i)a, be sure, isn't from Russian. Some researchers suppose that Dacian and Latin were related languages, so the Romanisation of the Dacians is rather a wish than reality. Plus, don't forget that not all Dacia was conquered by the Romans, but the language has been the same in Moldova, Transilvania, and Wallachia.
Prestige and money often conquer more swiftly than the sword.
Great video
I've always wondered why even though Romans where present in England for a good few hundred years, they didn't seem to influence the English language. But when they were present in Dacia for far less, just a couple hundred years, somehow the Dacian language dissapeared and we Romanians addopted their latin language.
Could it be possible that maybe the Dacian language was proto-latin?
Fun fact: In Romanian green = verde; yellow = galben. In Albanian it's the other way around, green = galben; yellow = verde. (Obviously it's spelled different but it sounds the same).
The English were not in Britain until after Rome left.
That looks like a a form of daltonism in Albanian :P. As for the Roman Empire's presence and influence upon the languages of its European subjects there are many thing to say, but it takes too long to explain in a CZcams comment and you will not believe them anyway, as you are prevented by the nationalism that was instilled in you since kindergarten. The truth is ugly and would make you hate your ancestors.
@@GholaTleilaxu K 🤣🤣🤣
??? Half of English comes from Latin …. What are you talking about 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for your interest in Dacian language, if you will stay for some time in Romania and Moldova villages you will discover more Dacian language from old people, many words I remember from my parents which are not used in today language. Also language spoken in Moldova is Romanian/ Dacian language, you will understand , if you will go to Moldova.
It would be a pleasure to visit such beautiful lands.
@@BenLlywelyn thank you very much for your reply! I love your interesting video! In Romania there is a Mountain called Godeanu, meaning Belongs to God. In Romanian God is Dumnezeu. Also we have a sentence made only of vowels: Oaia aia e a ei! That is her sheep! I am looking forward to seeing more videos from you! BTW I was born in Romania, living in Florida, I miss Romania!
@@olgaroche2929 păi vino acasă ! Sau aștepți să dai cu capul de ... ,,curcubeu" ?
@@BenLlywelyn I went up to Dorohoi very close to Moldova
Are you a philologist, linguist or linguistic anthropologist? My two brothers were tetraglots, one spoke Irish and one Welsh but they never spoke to each other. I am relearning Latin then French then maybe Irish or Arabic. I started the latter in military but interest waned when I retired. Do you speak Texan anymore :
Linguist I suppose. And an explorer.Texas was a long time ago my friend.
hi there ! I am a romanian guy and I what to know more abaout the celts in Transilvania......so ....you made a very good job in this video because in school they did not teach us all of this ...Thank you and keep on the information!
I will look at Celts in the area when I have more information. Multumesc!
Hi Ben we actually do have a lot of stinging nettle in the northern U.S. it's a very strong invasive but it has medicinal properties. Diolch.
Showing my southern rootd then.
@@BenLlywelyn Indeed, thank you for all the great content!
Very good video, congratulations! Coming from a Romanian, you really deserve it! And Romanians had as a name given by others Wallachians - pretty close to Welsh
Mulțumesc. See my other video on names like Wales all over Europe if you like Wallachia.
Probabil. Am avut norocul sa verific asta, fiindca dupa un test genetic am constatat ca am intre stramosi unul comun cu alti doi romani, cativa englezi, un danez, un Italian din Alpi si doi bulgari din Tarnovo. Am cu ei aceleasi mutatii pe cromozomul Y care ar fi aparut la un stramos comun acum 2700-3000 de ani. Este o dovada certa ce poate fi legata de populatiile de atunci poate chiar Celti/Daci/Traci... Sau, Celti=Daci=Traci. ;)
That's an interesting correlation, but I think that it most likey has to do with the way our Slavic neighbours described it: "In the northwestern Slav- ic countries, which in the Middle Ages neighbored the Italian Peninsula or had intensive and regular contacts with it, Vlach meant “Italian” (the people and the language), while for those situated further from Italy, it meant “Romanian” (Arvinte 1979: 334-336, Kovačec 2016)."
Buna Ben, iti scriu in romaneste din respect pentru inaintasii mei, istoria noastra a fost mistificata si mutilata din multe motive independente de noi, daca te aplecai cu mai multa daruire acestui studiu (nu doar sa faci rating pe net), ai fi vazut ca limba romana este o forma stilizata a limbii dacilor, pentru lamuriri te rog sa procuri Dacia Hiperboreana a lui Ovid Densusianu. Din nefericire sunt multi ca tine care ne fac deservicii expunand o istorie inspirata de pe net (din nefericire). Din fericire exista documente , dar care nu se doereste sa fie facute publice ale identitatii si continuitatii pe acest teritoriu. Succes la studiu!
Mulțumesc. Apreciez asta.
Usa here, we have stinging nettles in New England and Great Lakes regions, but not sure about the south or west. Only a few eat them here. Just thought you’d like to know. Thank you for the playlist
Thank you :) as an owner of some genes, I have learnt a few things :)
Learning is powerful.
Dacians were brought to Roman Britannia and remained there as settlers so there might be a Welsh connection...
We do wonder why the Welsh dragon feels eastern.
Hadrian wall!! Right? They were the first who fought there..
@@BenLlywelyn Also the city of Chester was called Deva, same as the Romanian city of Deva.
Deva/dava ment fortress in Dacian.
@@razvanbarascu4007 basically deva/ dava was at the end of a fortress location name, not just 1 location such as Deva still existing nowadays as those fortresses went under in the Dark Ages. Dacians were good architects as the geography forced them to be good builders of defensive works. Despite the brutality of the Middle Ages, the Dacian capital ruins still hold and is a USESCO site.
@@cristibrad6742 yes bro, I know, also Moldava/Moldavia/Moldova.. as Stephan the Great was saying, Tara Romaneasca a Moldaviei.
The pieces of the puzzle are there..
Excellent video ❤❤❤! I use to work with Albanians in Kosovo! Common word Bucur means joy or being glad!
Awe ❤❤❤ Dacian... thought i'll never run into that 😍😍😍
As a Romanian I appreciate this so much! I’m also curious to find out some of those 900+ Dacian names, could you please share your sources? Thanks 🙏
I'm not really academic about things. But, here is something I found on nettle and Dacian. www.academia.edu/11590310/The_Dacian_name_for_nettle
Individul merge prin maracini , cand are o sosea asfaltata . Pentru romanii interesati sugerez citirea cartii scrisa de Iulia Brranza Mihaileanu : Pentru cine este nociva originea traco geto daca?
Ce limba grãiesti bl ca nu prea te înţeleg... Graiul moldovean: "vorbeşte în kizda masî normal pidarule"
@@poofoh6889 Cucuta iti face rau si ajugi de te certi singur!
Sorry, I can't resist saying a few words, i think they are related to Dacian (Getic) language, or old Europe:
Barac - is an ancient (very ancient i beleive) breed of shepherd dog in Romania (mioritic shepherd dog). Derivative of this name are all over Europe.
Carp - a huge Dacian tribe - Carpathian mountains - many people still have the name Carp in Romania - wood civilization - Carpenter word origin? some of them migrated long time ago, there was a region in Spain named Carpetania.
Turdulii is another Dacian tribe.
-Turda is a city (and somehow a region) in Romania - Some family names: Turda, Turdeanu, Turduleanu ... Sturza.
Sturdy ?
Manecuta, Broscuta, Pisicuta are diminutives for nice little things ( little sleeve, little frog, little cat) > Cute ?
Romanian word oaMENi means men or people.
(or is ori in Romanian by the way)
Balta -means roughly a Lake - Baltic sea? Balaton lake in Hungary.
(no slavic origin, and there are traces of Dacians wandering on Baltic seashores).
Stana (de piatra) in Romanian - in english is Stone (rock) same meaninig - and there are familes names Stone in Romania.
Scapa, scapare, in romanian - escape in english (same meaning).
Albanian Karpe = rock
Munte/ Virf Godeanu, Belongs to God!
I'm interested-what is your background in languages? Or are you more from a historical origin of cultural interest?
I studied Welsh at university, with a bit of French and indo-European linguistics.
3:02 have you been to do "White Stones" in Romania? I could not believe my eyes when I saw then in your video. That is where I grew up as a kid. It's one of our hidden gem!
I wish. It would be nice to see. Multumesc.
There are still last names Daka and Daci in Albania.
Bukuresht, in Albanian means It's beautiful, Bukur+eshte.
Ancient family.
Rumanians daco maniac just cuz they faking the history cuz that's theirs intrest but it's obvious that they aren't Dacs
They are the arumani ppl from rumelia, located albania
Rumani ,Rumeli
Same thing
@@GM-os6fo skipped your medication scheme, Gonzorian? Eat your gulyas first, than take them pills all. At once.
Bucharest was a late thing. During the dark ages the center was Targoviste.
Hi Ben, Rome conquered a part from Dacia, like up until the Sub Carpathians, and after the romans left, everybody was speaking latin? Even the people beyond the Carpathians? Maybe you have an answer to this question. Thank you
Prestige. Education. Church. Commerce. Languages most often change without war.
Did you know we got a music instrument called cimpoi that is relative with the Scotian music instrument? Maby some relatives there😊!
I did not know that, multumesc.
It's an intriguing topic. For instance, modern romanian dictionaries indicate the origin of the word "rece" (romanian for "cold") as being the latin "recens" = "new", "fresh". I myself consider this a pretty rough association.
Romanian has feminine 2 and masculine 2, like Welsh. Which intrigues me.
The etymologists from the Romanian dictionary are extremely dreadful and it seems to be done with malice which is badly influencing the heritage of Romanian language. According to them if you look at it, almost all the words are being of foreign origin. Almost nothing Dacian.....pretty strange for the oldest culture in Europe with the oldest writing in the world which precedes the Sumerian one by 2000 years.
@@adriansparlac8517 "which precedes the Sumerian one by 2000 years" - 1. the Tartaria tablets are not necessarily a writing. It is a group of symbols but the evidence is too thin to certainly say "alphabet!".
2. the oldest culture in Europe is far older than you think. Ever heard of the painted cave walls in Spain? Ever heard of the 40000-year-old Lion Man of the Hohlenstein-Stadel? ... and many others?
@@ionbrad6753 I like that! You think 40000 years Hohlenstein-Stadel is old? Well, think again! In Romania at Aiud, Mureș river, was discovered a manufactured piece of aluminium dated 250000 years ago. So when did the western countries discovered aluminium? Do not forget Ion, Romania is far more greater, intriguing and interesting than you think it is and deserve much more respect (apart from the government). And if you are a Romanian, love your country more and give it more credit. Tartaria tablets does not content alphabetic features...is more like a form of early hieroglyphics.
@@adriansparlac8517 That piece of aluminium was NOT precisely dated. The oxide layer indicated a couple hundred years. The depth of discovery and the presence of mastodont remains indicated anything among 20 thousand to 11 thousand, ot 250 thousand. It is probably a contamination (somebody planted it there), a fake.
In any case, Homo Sapiens was not even present in Europe 250 thousand year ago : ))
I love my country and my whole world, that does not require inventing stuff about some imaginary ancestors. You are the one discrediting our country, not me.
This is so interesting I am English but have some celtic in me, I found learning Romanian easy like it was meant to be, I have also travelled and stayed in Kosovo where they speak Albanian and I saw these similarities without knowing this x
Romanian also has a low number of sounds, which makes it easy to learn.
Most English are ancestrally Celtic although .... Almost all people in Britain Ireland have deep pre Celtic neolithic roots
Thanks
That is very kind of you. It is much appreciated. Thank you.
Respect from Kosova (Albanian). Thank you/Ju faleminderit :-)
Je i mirepritur.
Well, the language may be dead but the Dacians live on in the hearts of the Romanians, despite our name :). We have very many folk songs dedicated to the Dacians, Roman legions would be lucky to have so many.
Whereever we live, we are the caretakers of the cultures who have lived there before.
Curios😊 cu ce se mai ocupau dacii acum 30 - 36 de ani in urmă!!!
2 remarks:
- Romanian, Bulgarian and Albanian all have the definite article at the end of the noun, unlike any other languages in the region, no matter their origin
In a disscusion with someone we said Albanians might be a Dacian group that left Dacia, just an idea, can't be demonstrated
- In Tomis-Constanta the poet Ovidiu wad outcast. He wrote that the Getae language seemed rough to him, like the Getae themselves, but if only he had written more about it
Great video!
Thank you. It is interesting Norwegian Swedish also attach thr article to the end of the noun. I don't see any direct link, but there is a lot between we have lost.
@@BenLlywelyn :) I know they do. Did the Gothic language had it too? But it's hard to believe that they spread it here.
@@aiurea1 Latin has the definite article at the end of the noun.
@@RaduRadonys you mean because of the Latin "ille"? That is a little disputed if Latin used articles or not. There are probably over 20 languages or varieties derived from Latin but only our variation and possibly Aromanian uses it at the end. How do you explain those from Bg and Ab which are not in the form of ille?
@@aiurea1 Well Eastern Romance language (Romanian, Aromanian, etc) do use it, while Western Romance languages (which are way more than the Eastern ones) don't. And that's pretty simple to explain, since the Western languages were influenced by Germanic, which has the article in front.