Reacting to Carmelo Anthony saying not being drafted by the Pistons changed the course of his career
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- Reacting to Carmelo Anthony saying not being drafted by the Pistons changed the course of his career
Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Kendrick Perkins debate whether they would look at Carmelo Anthony like LeBron James and Dwyane Wade if he had been drafted by the Detroit Pistons.
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The fact the Carmelo is admitting this makes me feel like he’s realised that his career didn’t match up to his own expectations which is sad.
Your right, Carmelo is seeing his draft class flourish while realizing he didn't meet his own expectations and has made a lot of money, Championships 🤔 on the other hand hmm. Little bitterness out of Carmelo.
Honestly does anybody’s?
True he kind of shot himself in the foot a couple of times.
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It's definitely his fault
04 pistons were holding mfs to 70 points. 60s in the playoffs.. One of the best if not best defenses ever
Scary good defensively
💯💯💯.
them and the 08 celtics...
5 straight games holding opponents to 60 pts. Never will that b done again
@@ezekwu not even comparable. Go check the 08 Celtics and 04 Pistons numbers, especially the playoff defensive numbers, the 04 Pistons were much better and it’s not even close.
A rookie Melo being a part of that "Goin to Work" Pistons chemistry and culture would have definitely altered his mindset for the rest of his career. However, you gotta figure it out for yourself sometimes.
or maybe him being there would have ruined THEIR chemistry. works both ways.
@@ZombieZifiction I doubt it would have ruined their chemistry being so young going to a Franchise like the pistons they would have taught him early on he would have been around Vets
You see once Chauncey went to Denver that helped Melo muture imagine if he got to play with Chauncey from the start
@@Stonecoldalston yea but larry brown was the coach he really didnt like rookies and already having tayshaun prince he probably wouldn't see the floor like that at least the first year but after that idk
@@benjaminallen3117 he For sure would’ve touched the floor regardless of what the coach liked. He was too much of a scorer not to. Wouldn’t of started but he easily would’ve had a 6th man role.
Lol you are a smart guy
Pistons won the chip without drafting melo that year but could've won more if they drafted him.
For sure, they went 7 games with the Spurs the next year and if they had Melo I believe they’d beaten the Spurs
But they might not have Rasheed if they had Melo. You can't just look at the team that won it and assume everything would have been the same with Melo. There are way too many variables. It's not that easy to just assume Pistons would have won with Melo anyway. Everything happened for a reason.
wrong. you casuals are so dumb.
the pistons would’ve been a dynasty with melo. they would’ve won/run the east for at least 5-6 years.
side note: i also truly believe that if the pistons selected him then his game would be different. those pistons teams were defense first, & were dominated by some elite veterans. w/ melo being on those teams i think that melo would be a defense minded individual, & more of a team playing player instead of that score first mindset that he had to be while w/the nuggets.
@@ericvincent24 casual
This isn’t talked about enough tbh and bosh on the heat was such an underrated player he did so much stuff that didn’t show up….definitely one of the most selfless players ever IMO
Facts and he had some clutch defensive plays and hit big shots too..without Bosh they def don’t win
Bosh averaging almost 18 & 8 with 80% ft shooting, 50% fg shooting & great defensive match up ability over those 4 seasons is so understated. He went from averaging 24 & 12 in Toronto as the num 1 guy to 18 & 8 as the number 3 while completely retooling his game from the outside and committing to the defensive end. Such an amazingly versatile performance by him during that run.
He gave up his possession time just to win, he was a beas in the paint back in raptors
@bob Rush Same with Kevin Love
Yea one of the most definitely. Iyo who's the #1 most selfless in the NBA that you've Seen?!
Pistons with another scorer in 05 would dominate the East.
their defense would not have been as good with melo. no thank you.
When a wingman with his ability going into the draft and potential became available, you take him. He was an upgrade over any wing they had.
@@ZombieZifiction it actually works because defense is about effort. And on time he would have had to gave it which would have been better for his career.
@@ZombieZifiction lol let him guard the weakest guy and let him drop 30
They would of won back to back to back championships
I love how Stephen A. Smith says that he broke the South Beach Trio story then Max responds by saying he was the original host for Around the Horn. Great history lesson today! Lol
Melo would have been an NBA champion in 04 instead of Darko
Nope... Pistons would've lost.. check the roster without BIGS
@@pangdgenius9335 idk man they would still have Rasheed by the time they reached the finals
@@pangdgenius9335 Darko played 4 total minutes in the Finals and went 0/2 FG and 0/2 FT.
Pistons were winning without him
@@Terror832 you beat me 2 it.
Nope. Kobe owned Melo.
he’s literally not wrong lmao
Straight up facts.
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@@priestfultonjwingbajr1430 I am a believer but this is annoying and has no correlation to video whatsoever.
@@priestfultonjwingbajr1430 Cmon bro i believe but this is what ppl mean by forcing religion down ppls throats this has nothing to do with the nba, Melo, nor the pistons
We're gonna miss u, Max
03-04 pistons held teams under 70 like 6 straight games I remember like it was yesterday. Big Ben was was a monster protecting the glass
Definitely better then the bulls defense
Four straight games in the regular season under SIXTY points. Insane. Melo wouldve become an all time defender
Yeah but that Ravens defense in 2000 gave up the fewest points in NFL history and nobody has even come close till this day!!!!!!
Man every time I see melo I think bruh
Melo would be a 3 time champ by now had Dumars drafted him
For the exact same reasons Stephen A explained
Don’t think I’ve ever agreed more with Stephen A. Smith
I disagree this is all hypothetical
@@ameetsander9344 He definitely would’ve had a ring. In the 2005 NBA Finals, the Pistons lacked a true go-to guy and still took the Spurs to 7.
@@joeyportia6476 I disagree. Who knows what Melo it is. This is all here say. Melo had opportunity to go and win he didn't so... What if Detroit defense is vulnerable all of a sudden. Or you can't bring on sheed. Or he in Larry Brown dog house, one of the toughest coaches to play for.
@@ameetsander9344 bruh stop, adding melo just makes pistons that more dominant offensively and it would have made a elite defender because he would hav taken it more serious
@@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony how do you know. You got a time machine. This all hypothetical. Which makes my opinion just as valid as yours. We don't live in a world of hypotheticals, or what ifs. It's a sad reality but hey that's life.
Pistons will never live that 2003 draft down, one of the greatest in history, #2 pick and they screwed it up. Darko Milicic was a bust and was out of the league by age 27 while 3 hall of famers taken immediately after...
Mannnn
@@roadrunner4578 It was the 2003 draft, you must be mistaking 2004 because that's when Detroit won the chip
@@roadrunner4578 you’re high
@@roadrunner4578bro melo got drafted in 2003. Plz tell me you’re trollin
@@roadrunner4578 Like the confidence, but it's misplaced
my only thing is that idk if the pistons go get sheed if they draft melo, and sheed was important to that 04 title run
They will because the Hawks let him go also the major problem is Larry Brown since he would not let him start he has a habit of not starting the rookies.
Melo was on a rookie contract. Why wouldnt they?
@@macewbee that would be fine for his first year to be coming off the bench behind prince. He would be 6th man of the year material and would end up starting the next year at the latest. As max said tho, he wouldn't be their best player and to be in that wade lebron category,.he'd have to be mvp level for the pistons in the playoffs
YeH they would’ve still got Sheed cuz they trade atkins hunter and first round pick for Sheed to the hawks so melo wouldn’t had effected that same way darko didn’t and melo would’ve been on the bench
They do, the Pistons drafted a big and yet stil badly needed a big so I don’t see how it changes the Sheed trade from happening.
I hope the Pistons fired the scout that told them to draft frikin Darco Milicic over Carmelo, Bosh, and Wade
Wouldn't that be fun to have on your resume for the rest of your life...lol.
European American scout probably was racist
Thing is, it was not a one-man perception. Lots of scouts and GMs were drooling all over Darko. Dumars himself was enamored by him due to his perfect private workout with the Pistons. It is said that he was amazing out there, draining shots, showing terrific athleticism, great footwork and all, to the point that you could hear people in the stands whispering things like "this guy is gonna own the league". It's funny 'cos those were basketball people and lots of them were along for the ride. Of course, Dumars had the final say, so the responsibility fall on his shoulders.
Chad Ford aka Pistons Scout and Darko’s agent
it wasn't that it was tayshaun prince him and Melo are at the same position. their starting 5 was set so darko made sense coming off the bench.
DWade's 2006 finals perform was one for the ages, I agree with Max on that one...
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Facts lmao
Bruh I almost spit my drink out. You hilarious
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Growing up watching melo as a Denver fan was so fun. He had some great teams there. Denver should retire his jersey
Larry Brown would’ve sat out Melo for not trying on defense 😂😂😂
EXACTLY🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And Melo would've thrown fits, having been a major star his whole life and seeing guys like Lebron and Wade being focal points of their own teams.
Idk cuz Iverson was the same way but melo was worse so... maybe
Or maybe he would have gotten good on defense who knows
The big question mark that everyone seems to be forgetting is, do we know for certain that the Pistons would have still acquired Rasheed Wallace later in the year if they drafted Carmelo? Part of the reason they traded to get Rasheed Wallace was because Darko flopped so bad. If the draft pick that they made in Carmelo ended up working out there's a good chance they'd never end up feeling pressured to trade for Rasheed. And even with Carmelo, the Pistons don't end up winning a single ring without Rasheed Wallace on that team during those 2 seasons they made it to the finals. Rasheed was instrumental for them to get over the hump.
This really is the million dollar question. I love Melo, and he absolutely would have helped the Pistons during that time, but, Rasheed Wallace REALLY is what took the Pistons from "pretty good" to Contenders in 2004. He just fit them perfectly, and was the missing piece to the championship puzzle. So, do the Pistons still acquire Sheed if they have Melo? I really don't know. I want to say yes, but I really have no idea.
@@elliemyers6435 Thank God they still got one ring out of it & Dumars saved his draft mistake with the trade for Sheed. That was a clutch move. Sheed took the edge that team already had & turned it into a buzz saw
I guess you could argue that if they don’t draft darko then they possibly end up trading for Sheed earlier because the don’t have the illusion that they’re set at PF early in the year
I dont think Darko played any role into them trading for Seed period cause saying they traded for sheed cause Darko flopped so bad I dont agree with cause it was way to early to say Darko was a bust by then
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Y’all are some casuals if y’all think melo wouldn’t have won 2 rings to start his career off. Melo always had elite 1 on 1 defensive ability. The reason he never tried on d was because he wasn’t mentored right. Now imagine him learning behind those dogs in Detroit. Would have been scary.
When Rasheed Wallace was on the air a couple months ago he made that exact point. Defense is like 70% effort an 30% natural skill. Being around them would of made them better
@@julianclanton1204 well Ben Wallace also said he doesn't think the Pistons would have EVER won a title with Melo, and Chauncey Billups has also made not so favorable comments on Melo.
Although You can look at Detroit not draftin him and say that shifted his career I can't feel too bad because he choose money over a chance at rings when he took the longer deal with Denver
Melo didn’t stand a chance in the West at that time
Shid but who did for that matter? The West has dominated the NBA my entire life & the ONLY East teams that were beast mode are Boston, Detroit, Chicago & Miami. Not an opinion, straight facts.
My bad, Cleveland as well...
Max actually speaking facts here
So we’re just going to ignore the fact that Larry Brown didn’t like playing rookies? Okay then.
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Plus if you didn't play defense, you're not going to play. Melo barely plays his rookie year because of Brown with rookies. And hardly more than that in season 2 because of his defense. This take is a joke from Perk and Steven A. The boxing analyst is the only one being real. ESPN is such a joke
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The big question is: if they had drafted Melo, do they trade for Sheed? Funny game, playing-ifs.
They wouldn’t have won without Sheed so hard to say
YeH they would’ve still got Sheed cuz they trade atkins hunter and first round pick for Sheed to the hawks so melo wouldn’t had effected that same way darko didn’t and melo would’ve been on the bench
@@litodat233 yeah but if melo is balling do they even make that move? They looked at Sheed as the missing piece to a championship because they kept losing in the conference finals
Good point
@@KingKCA yeah cause Sheed was a big man enforcer that they needed (to go with Ben) .. Melo was pure buckets but couldnt play power forward the same way
Max speaking facts once again that dwade performance was too legendary the chances of melo doing something like that were very slim
Thats true but Melo still would’ve balled out , even if it wasnt a Jordan-like performance we saw from Wade
That was one of the worst finals every time he was getting fouled I couldn’t even watch it was too cringy
In the playoffs, Melo, despite being a scoring specialist, has averaged 23 PPG on just 41.4% FG in his career. He has an extremely overrated and glorified reputation on offense, his Offensive Rating/100 in the playoffs is just 104 while his Defensive Rating/100 in the playoffs is 109, meaning he has a Net Rating/100 of -5 in the playoffs for his career.
Max needs to first understand that defense is more effort than skill, second he has to understand that the Pistons was Ben Wallace's team. Who gonna tell Big Ben you not playing defense🤔🤔🤔
Big Ben, Tayshaun providing the defense and Melo providing the offensive spark.
You never needed 5 great defensive players on the court to be a good defensive team , never in the history of the sport . It’s weird how people look to be a contrarian to Melo at every turn
@@qdamusiq5006 lol you are correct. All that matters is that you arent a TERRIBLE defender. Melo when putting in effort was above average
Just his inconsistent effort made people treat him like a cancer just cause he wasnt playing D like Jordan - way too harsh
@@clutch7548 and it’s only a handful of perineal scorers in NBA history that played both ends night end /night out. Only thing Melo was really guilty of in his career is prioritizing the bag over winning , other than that it’s all BS opinions
What changed the course of his career is him not being good enough to play defense not “not getting drafted by a certain team”. If he wanted to get drafted by the pistons he could’ve showed them during workouts that he has potential to play defense. But he didn’t and he blew that chance too.
Thats moronic, he just won a national championship playing defense
And why did the coaches keep voting him in to allstar games if he was so bad? Why did he get picked for the Olympics every time if he played no D?
Pistons made a mistake, Darko is a way worse defender than Melo LMAO
You know everyone who either comes out of our state of Va wether born here or went to power house high school or college here is a baller. Seen melo play at oak hill and it was amazing. Glad to see him be on a good enuf team to win trophy now. Go Lake Show !!!!
Melo would get the respect he deserves if he got drafted by the pistons
that's assuming they would've won with him
@@ZombieZifiction Ben and Chauncey would’ve checked him and kept him in line, they lowkey could’ve been a mini dynasty barring catastrophic injuries
It's crazy on how Bron was trying to make a bigger BIG 3...but yall never wanna crictize him
@@blankphone3470 lmfao he's the most criticized athlete on the planet what you mean lolllll
Prime Melo, Wade, and James on the same team would’ve been so scary.
I think Bosh was a better fit. He gave them that rim protecting big
Feels unfair for the time. Boston had the big 3 but they were getting old
@@mrray7169 me 2, Bosh personality fits better
If anyone's getting Deja Vu, they did this exact same segment last year. Like, beat for beat.
I'm a Brooklyn fan but I hope Melo wins with the Lakers so he can retire with a ring while having maximized his earning potential
It really did change his career
People are forgetting that the Pistons would had made Melo play defense and it would have stuck.
And Melo would probably have a role in Malice because he would eventually be the center of a big time brawl. Nuggets vs Knicks 06.
Exactly. Not to mention even if they play Melo as a 6th man behind Prince, he would easily drop 30 against 2nd stringers.
Perk wants to argue with Max so bad but can’t say a word 😂
Melo going to the pistons would have also stop wade from getting his 1st ring in 06
Melos career in Denver was still legendary idc what anybody says he was unstoppable.
Larry brown hated rookies and would never have played him same as darko.
Nope. He was too big of a prospect he would have received pressure from upper management to play him.
@@shabazz360 and what was darko? Larry brown benched Lebron Wade and Carmelo in the olympics and got a bronze out of spite because he hated young players.
I'm so glad this video cut off before Perk started his nonsense
The disrespect to that 05 spurs team is insane. It still would’ve been a great series, but as great as that Detroit defense was, nobody was stopping duncan.
They went 7 games add Melo and it’s just about a lock for Detroit
It went 7 games without melo
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It's interesting really because if Melo was drafted by the Pistons he obviously would've won a ring his rookie year, but I'm positive the Pistons would've been able to repeat quite easily. Honestly they may have been able to 3-peat.
What if legacy between melo and t- mac
T-mac - couldve play with jordan, kobe , tim duncan
Melo - drafted 2nd over all , play with lebron and d wade
I didn’t hear about the Kobe 1. Oh God 😆😆
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Melo had better numbers than lebron, got denver to the playoffs in his rookie season but some how Lebron got the ROY. 🤦🏻♂️
People seem too forget that.🤷🏽♀
I like carmelo anthony playing with the Lakers.
Still haunts me till this day too 😩 We would've definitely won at least 2 more chips.
Actually agree with max. That defensive was insane. They wouldnt outscore anyone. But teams couldn't score. Was amazing to watch.
Nah, I love Melo and I was a fan of the bad boy Pistons 2.0 but that would have been bad chemistry. The Pistons were a hard nosed team and Melo was a pretty selfish player even as a rookie. The Pistons weren't a favorite to win back then and it took a lot of work to get them there in the first place. One entitled rookie taking up minutes could have messed all that up. Even if Detroit wins it with Melo, Melo would either take a smaller role and not become a star, or would have had too much success early and become lazy and donut shaped like he did in NYC. Melo, my man, Denver was good for you and yall had some playoff success too. You got impatient and wanted the money too and that's on you not on some fate or a draft pick.
Ben woulda set him str8.
Man let’s keep it real here. MELO CHOSE MONEY OVER RINGS! Period.
Agreed.
I mean he grew up in the projects, ofc he gonna take the money, can't really blame him tho but I get what you're saying. It's a win win situation tho. Money or rings
$ is more important
@@stephenkasputis2502 ok just accept what comes with that though meaning his legacy won’t be considered up there with his peers (Bon, Wade, Bosh etc)
@@youngrosie1 I get that cause a player's legacy is based on rings. It's unfair but that's the truth so yes I agree with you there. But there's no need to keep it real cause everybody and their grandmother knew that melo wanted the money. But a lot of players do chose the money however the chance at a ring is included which is why big athletes tend to want to leave the small market teams. But money is like 95% involved in every athlete's decision. That we can be real on
I remember Skip and Stephen Asian Smith talking about this topic like 9 years ago
One of the biggest reasons Detroits defense was so great was because of Lindsay Hunter the greatest on ball harassing point guard I ever saw when he was with the Pistons, and Mike James who was sort of like a free safety at the guard position with Lindsay
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Imagine blaming where you got drafted and still having contending teams. That Denver squad was nasty
Yeah but it was a loaded western conference at the time acting like the Lakers suns Spurs weren’t dominating the conference Denver never stood a chance no matter how good they were their best shot was when they went to the wcf against the Lakers and that was prime Kobe and gasol tuff to beat had he been in the east would’ve been easier for
Him that’s all
@@litodat233 I agree but that didn’t mean his chances of getting to the finals diminished. He still could have fought and found a way to get there.
I'm so sick of hearing about this .. I was upset we didn't get him yea ...
But do we still make the trade for sheed if we had Melo?
Does Melo get that block on Reggie Miller to save the series ?
It would take critical minutes for tayshaun .. who played such a huge role on defense.
Bra pistons didn’t trade for Sheed they would’ve had him regardless he got traded to the hawks and played one game and the hawks bought out his contract made him a free agent and he signed with the pistons how don’t u know this and pistons your team 🤦♂️
Tayshaun would’ve been the starter so yeah would’ve still got that block melo would’ve been on the bench Larry brown wasn’t starting him y’all taking stuff the wrong way like saying melo would’ve came there averaged 20 started and been the reason they won the title not what they saying he would’ve won a title jus like darko did by being on the bench and coming in occasionally Larry brown didn’t play rookies a whole lot so same thing would’ve happened
@@litodat233 check google man it was a 3 team trade from what I remember we traded Lindsey hunter , Bob sura and Zaza with 2 first round picks in a 3 team deal with Atlanta and Boston..
@@litodat233 and we also still had corlis Williamson who was a starter before tayshaun blossomed .. and a start when he left the team .. and okor who signed a max deal for the jazz ... so he would of been buried deep in our rotation.. or he would of done well and took minutes from tayshaun ... maybe his points would of helped us beat the pacers more easily maybe his defense would of been a liability for us ... does he build confidence on the bench .. i don't think so ..
Melo had a prime Kenyon martin, prime Billups, nene , Jr Smith , Chuck Atkins and Andre Miller.. and even a very good Iverson and couldn't even make the finals I don't think he would of done much for us ... I'd take wade if I could pick again
Is there video of any of the Pistons players speaking on this? I would like to hear their side of it lol
I would like to correct history, I lived in Michigan during the time that the pistons drafted Darko over Carmelo Anthony. What I distinctly remember is that when the pistons tried to scheduled a workout with Carmelo Anthony, he refused to come in for a work-up. I also remember the fact that Darko was on the cover of sports illustrated that year, and it appeared that most general managers would have drafted Darko over Carmelo. My biggest criticism of Joe Dumars, was him drafting Mateen Cleeves in the first round of a previous year.
Literally all Carmelo had to do was beat Kobe mono y mono in the WCF. He had a team lets not act like the Nuggets were trash. We just learned that Carmelo wasn't a superstar just a really good all-star. Denver built everything around him so if he went to detroit first off total culture throwoff considering they were an All-time great defensive team and melo's one of the worst defenders. Sure he would of got a ring but it's Melo's fault for not winning a ring. Not the hand of fate.
Yeah Kobe took Melos soul in that series lol.
You talk like Kobe a bench a player “all he had to do was beat a top 5 player” lol what?
I agree with most of what you said but. To be a great defensive team everyone one the squad doesnt need to be all-nba defenders. GSW was great defensively in 2016-2018 even with the defensive liability that Steph can be. Unlike offense, defense can be taught (offense can too ofc but its much harder whereas defense is more about discipline which wouldve rubbed off on melo from the detroit team)
@@oneskillpoint4669 yeah as a huge Kobe fan he was not losing that playoffs. He gets pooped on by ignorant haters but Kobe dominated those playoffs.
Exactly my point. The two teams matched up very well. It was up to who'd play better melo or Kobe and Melo sucked *** in 3 of those games. If he would have played like he played game 1 of that series the Nuggets would have won. Melo just couldnt do it. Consistency.
If Detroit had drafted Melo they would’ve beaten the Spurs in 2005 and won back to back championships. The Pistons actually needed a scorer like Melo and he would’ve made that team even more insane
Lot of people forget Melo’s rookie year, the Pistons didn’t have Rasheed Wallace till later on that season when they traded for him. If they would’ve drafted Melo, than they probably would’ve never traded for Wallace because Prince played the 3 and with Melo being a great rookie player they would’ve played him at the 4. But we’ll never know. My favorite what if is, what if Tracy Mcgrady and Vince Carter never left Toronto… later on adding Bosh.
Forgetting one very key detail: Larry Brown wasn't fond of playing rookies/young players. Darko had promise but playing 34 games and 5mins his rookie season, then 37 games and 7mins the next didn't help his development at all. Larry Brown also coached team USA in '04 and played Lebron 11mins, Amare 7 and Melo 7. Yeah Melo would've won a chip in 04, but no guarantees he develops into the player we eventually got.
Larry Brown would've beat a defensive identity into Melo. Could've changed his whole outlook on the game.
2007 when LeBron went off against Detroit may have turned out differently. If you have a scorer like Melo maybe he can get a few buckets to help them stop that onslaught. And Bron having to defend Melo maybe doesn't have the juice to pull it off. That would have been the moment I'd love to see Melo on the Pistons. Just to see how different it was.
Yea and Melo always gave LeBron fits
I hate how they juss be saying Jordan in everything that Pistons was obviously better cmon now
There's a reason why Dumars didn't want to draft Melo, because he, Larry Brown, and the core team members knew the kind of player Melo was, a ball-stopper who restricts ball movement as well as a subpar defender. Larry Brown was also notorious for not wanting to play rookies, so they didn't want chemistry issues due to clashing between Larry Brown and Melo, and the clashing would likely have happened with Melo seeing his draft classmates like Lebron and Wade getting playing time and being focal points of their respective teams while Melo would have had to sit on the bench much more.
Melo and Westbrook deserves a chip, and and if Dwight get a second chip he’s a for sure first ballot hof along with those two
When guarantee is there that Melo wouldn't be a ball hog on the Pistons? Chauncey himself said Melo would prefer scoring a lot of points even if it meant losing
My Pistons wasn't same after they drafted Darko over Melo. We had the chance to draft all time great talent and cement more championships in the lore of Piston and NBA history. Instead, we're STILL struggling to draft, trade AND keep actual talent, recruit free agents (mainly because the majority don't want to live in a small market like Detroit), or even compete for a conference title, LET ALONE an NBA title.
The decisions that was made that draft day ACTUALLY destroyed a long lasting championship run for the Pistons and a chance for Melo to get a ring EARLY in his career.
Melo is a top 10 scorer of all time. Imagine being drafted by Pistons and winning multiple championships. Just that would’ve put him in talks of being a top 50 greatest ever.
This video segment is like Marvel's what if and it focuses on the basketball world of how NBA superstars' careers could've ended differently.
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Carmelo is legendary and if Melo was drafted by the Pistons like he should have been then Melo would a top 20 top 30 basketball player of all time
As a great as Melo is, there is no way they would’ve won the title with Melo in 04. They probably wouldn’t have traded for Rasheed Wallace during the season, and their defense would not have been the same. They might have won a ring at some point, but, Rasheed Wallace put them over the top.
They would’ve still got Sheed bro it wouldn’t had effected that they gave up chucky Atkins lindsey hunter and a 1st round pick to the hawks why wouldn’t they still do that ? Melo wouldn’t had started prince would have melo would’ve been on the bench just like darko
The fact These ppl really get paid to speak on these athletes every word is funny and sick
Statistically speaking, Max is kinda right. That Pistons team in the playoffs had a -11 defensive rating (best of the modern era). I.e that means whatever their opponent's offensive rating was in the RS, Detroit on average held them 11 points worse. Or 11 points less than their average per 100 possessions. For reference, those bulls teams were around -8, peaking in 1996 (72 win yr)
man people forget about the spurs so quick.
Cause they were boring 🤷
Who knew that him being drafted by Detroit changed the course of his career, elite analysis
As a Pistons fan that 2003 draft hurt the most
I loved Carmelo Anthony since his college days .. I rather have melo then LeBron any day.. but to say Pistons ruined your career that's a lie . After his rookie contract he signed a 5 year deal and after the 4th year he wanted a trade to the Knicks and he resigned with them for 5 years and after 4th year he opted out and left for other teams .. instead of taking the money he could had a ring ..
Larrry Brown didn’t even play Melo at the Olympics in 04. He probably would’ve languished on the bench, because he didn’t “play the right way”. Don’t think it would have been as smooth as people say.
Thats pretty dumb, not playing a rookie at the OLYMPICS is different than not giving a rookie time in the NBA
Melo literally just won a national championship, he was clearly playing the right way … He also took the terrible Nuggets to the playoffs as a rookie - its obvious he could have a role with the Pistons
Not to mention Chauncey and Rip’s influence on him
@@clutch7548 he did play Darko either. Larry Brown liked seasoned vets.
Stephen A. you are so right he was thinking about the money he wasn't thinking about the rings and now I look at him now.
Looking back on Carmelo‘s career it is sad that he isn’t a multi time champion and MVP . It all fits a talent like him is rare but he did make a few mistakes in his career in preventing him from being successful
Nice segment... for once
Plus they added players after draft too
How many times ppl gonna bring this up
Carmelo is 100% right. History would of been different. Pistons 3 to 5 NBA finals and winning at least 3..
He would’ve been a champion at least two rings ! Pistons was no joke back in day
Carmelo was on a Denver team that had true talent and fell to the Lakers (Kobe) in the WCF. What I saw from Carmelo on the Denver teams or for his career, is someone who didn't put the work in like LeBron or Wade. One of the most polished offensive players I've ever seen but lacked defensive skills and didn't put the effort in to ever become a well rounded player. I will say, Denver needed to do more to get another piece around him. AI wasn't the answer. Billups was good and the leader of the teams with Carmel but that was clearly not enough. Ultimately, I can't see Carmelo winning multiple titles on his prowess only, he's not a leader and is a one way player at best. People hate on LBJ for his finals losses but he routinely gets his teams (trash or not) to the finals. What has Carmelo ever done in comparison? Carmelo is a great offensive player but to say he would have multiple titles if he had been drafted by the Pistons is just ridiculous.
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As a Piston fan I always wonder why the front office switched their decision at the last minute to select Darko over Melo.
Man listen…in Joe Dumars defense…I’m from Detroit and I remember this time like it was yesterday…Tayshaun Prince balled out in 2002 so we didn’t need to draft melo and I’m glad we didn’t to be quite honest…Carmelo Anthony wouldn’t have came from behind and blocked Reggie miller’s layup to get us to the championship 🤷🏽♂️…Theirs no guarantee we would’ve won the chip with him…Put some respect on Tayshaun Prince’s name period!!!
@MX Bro what are you talking about Tayshaun Prince was an elite defender are you kidding me?! He gave each and every one in the league problems defensively. He had a 7" wingspan dude and he was an iron man that man played in all 82 games his entire time here in Detroit. All Melo can do is iso and score he has no defense at all he would've been a bad fit here and I believe Joey D knew that. I'm glad we passed up on em because I don't think we would've gotten the chip with him I'm sorry.
Hindsight is 20/20, however life doesn't work like that.
The better question is who would start Tayshaun Prince or Melo? That Pistons team was all defense I don't think the chemistry would've worked
This Melo conversation have so many angles, but one for me is always that 07 collapse in the eastern conference finals pistons when it seem Bron went nuclear. I wonder if that series would have played out like it did or would Melo have have got the best of Bron and we get another pistons and spurs 07 finals matchup and how would the big 3 in Boston have played out.
Melo would have developed a whole new mindset. You can do it alone but Vets especially like them? Can definitely make a difference.
So many things would've had to change that year. Or BEEN different, I should say.
1: Had we drafted Carmelo, we may not have traded for Rasheed Wallace.
Why? We have been better during the season, and not felt we needed him (even though we did)
2: Had Carmelo been in the game at Indiana, Tayshaun would have never made that block on Reggie Miller.
On the other hand, we may have been ahead by much MORE in that game with Melo, which means the block wouldn't have even been necessary.
There are other "what ifs" with this, but those are the first two that came to mind.
In some alternate reality The Pistons Draft Melo they beat the Spurs Pistons Lose to Cavs in Game 7 of a Gladiator fight in 07, In the 2010 season Melo Joins Heatles instead of Bosh and They Win 4 finals in a row causing Lebron to return To Cleveland having to battle Miami, Chicago and Indy with a PG24 who never has a leg injury
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