With Fisker facing bankruptcy, Edmunds says DO NOT BUY this car for the first time? GMYT EP 101
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Hoovie, clearly you need this new Fisker.
It's difficult to take your advice seriously when you still have the worst designed, biggest failure of vehicle since the Delorean Dream on order.
You placed an order for a truck with 600 miles of range, insane 0-60 times and all for $40,000.
The Cyber Truck is a failure in every respect. It looks ridiculous, it cuts off fingers, it is too dangerous and sharp edged to be sold in Europe. It looks like a prop from Total Recall and is useless off road.
Elon Fanboy? No other reason to buy such a poorly designed piece of crap
Mercedes and all the other europeans have given up on ICE.
a month ago there was a discussion the EU to postpone the 2035 sales stop of new ice to 2040 but all european manufacturers warned the EU about the consequences and that they can live with 2035.
Why ?
#1 they are already making profits due to battery prices that have come down 45% in 2 years
#2 they need to phase out ice in a well planned manour cause the ice cars are becoming more expensive year by year cause demand has stalled and supplier like magna have closed their location in Cologne close to Ford with 200 employees
#3 they already see that range will not be and issue in the future cause battery tech developes much faster than ICE in the past 30 years
#4 they need to walk ahead before the chinese wave arrives and crushes them, they need to increase development speed cause otherwise they will be screwed like hell cause the chinese are currently selling their cars here for twice the price of that in CHina and they are at the level of VW - far too high. BYD is selling nothing in germany, just a few hundred car in the first quarter, mostly dealer cars
the big three will dy sooner or later cause gm is not looking good in China, Ford is not fit and survives here by buying the VW platform for their own car called Ford Explorer which is an SUV EV . Only Chrysler has it easier cause they will get all the EV tech from the stellantis group.
Ford and GM can only build trucks, trucks, trucks which they can not sell here cause here those are called Dinosaurs even by kids from the kindergarden pointing on the driver with a long stretched arm asking questions like
Why are you destroying the planet with such a big car you do not need cause you are no farmer or carpenter?
Mercedes AMG big 12 cylinder blocks like C63 all gone forever except you get used ones. now turbocharged 4 cylinders for a lot of money and without any heritage or must by factor.
Game over cause the european industry had the chance to postpone it due to the stupid german party of the liberals who are simply paid by lobbyists and did not get it right, cause the car industry has stopped the discussion silently by letting the EU know, that they are ready and that there is no way back. We are getting the grid (utility backbone) and charging net, we built each year solar power and off shore farms that equal 6 nuclear power plants (where we luckily have no longer one working with all the garbage discussion where to store that) and therefore we are moving ahead independent from oil and gas, houses are now heated by heatpumps and oil and gas heaters are forbidden from 2045 onwards. Come visit germany, check the high sea around Helgoland island and hundreds of offshore windturbines , visit medieval cities like Rothenburg ob der Tauber where even McDonalds is not allowed to use their sign, only a medieval one from the blacksmith, then Heidelberg with its oldest universities and of cause heading Stuttgart you come along Audi (Heilbronn plant), before you reach Stuttgart home of Porsche, Bosch and Mercedes and 30 km outside AMG in Affalterbach, home of Hans Werner Aufrecht, founder of AMG. Lot is changing here quite fast - and of cause Munich is 220 km away really close to the alps which you can see on a sunny day from the munich highway, not to mention eagles crest. Only VW is here in the north, lower saxony, the biggest manufacturer with a lot of plants across the lower saxony, which had made the biggest leap from close to bankrupcy in 1992/93 under Piech, grandson of Ferdinand Porsche and the mastermind of the platform strategy and all the brands. But we have a stronger climate, frisian tart as the beer we brew here, but just 200 km to Hamburg and the offshore windparks.
If you wanna understand what is really going on and why the german car industry will come back then it is time to explore the country where the car had been invented. Good luck !
Just go back and look at the history of cars circa 1900, lots of new ideas/companies and new tech, only a few survive
April: “Well, you can’t blame just one single person for a design”
Chris Bangle: “…hold my beer”.
My Ocean Ultra was delivered Saturday! I’ve test driven the Tesla Y and 3. Not even close regarding quality of ride, suspension, and potential…. Every automaker since the Ford Model T has had issues. Tesla is well known for lack of quality control. It’s popular with the CZcams haters piling on. Actual owners are posting here saying they love the car. Go figure 😮
@7:15 "...the Fister Ocean...". Appropriate Freudian slip especially if the company is behaving in such a way.
Out of the country? You bought P Diddys Fisker.😂
My god it might be the P. Diddler’s Karma lol, imagine if this were the case?!? One can only imagine what this poor diva has seen.
I think the most important thing for everyone to remember is that every single Car reviewer who reviewed the Fisker Ocean gave it a thumbs up. None of them were brave enough to openly attack Fisker until a software/electrical hardware reviewer: MKBHD drew first blood.
Let that make you a little more careful who you get your automotive reviews from. None of the automotive reviewers I ever saw were this critical of that car .
The fisker forum has tons of help.
I hope linux will be adapted by professionals so car manufacturers can just buy something that works. Instead of developing things they are not good at.
@@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuurexactly what I was thinking
I drove the Ocean back in January. There were glaring omissions to the options:
No ventilated seats
No massage seats
No autonomous driving
Display only worked in tablet orientation.
But there was nothing I noticed that was a deal killer.
I hope Fisker can pull themselves together.
The Ocean is the first product they built I could have seen myself in.
The Karma was too small.
The Revero was too small.
The Fisker looks like a banged up Range Rover with Ford interior. What in devil‘s name did you find appealing in that thing?
@@wolfgangpreier9160what kept you from buying it in January ?
@@NEONPARADlSE I actually recommended it to my eldest because it was built right over the road of his workplace. I am glad that he kept using public transport instead.
I never would have bought this vehicle for my company. This year i will ditch all EVs besides Tesla. They are the only ones working completely flawless for us.
I would love to have a Tesla Van, the Cybertruck could be a working compromise.
Wow he certainly lucked out by skipping the Ocean. Such a shame to see a company go down like this. But if they aren’t producing a product people want or can depend on then I guess this is how it goes…
At this point I only see it being an open source platform for gear heads and tinkerers to pick up as a spare car
Love the kitty even if she is sad about the collar. Tracker is good idea. Back to EV cars. In general I think the lack of milage, small amount of charging stations and how long it takes to charge....is just crazy to want one. The biggest issue is the EV that are catching fire in peoples garages and the fire departments can't get them out. Also the toxic mess they make after a fire. Fire departments have to carry a booklet of where to add the water on each model. They also have to wear hazmat suits on an EV call.
If you mostly drive around town and have an in-home charger, they are great. I have not heard of any recent fires in the US from an EV car.
Fact is ICE vehicles catch fire over 20 times more frequently than EVs
I can’t wait for Tyler to buy a Fisker Ocean. It smells hoovie’s garage from miles away
I too was excited about the Fisker Ocean and was considering buying one AFTER the first year "public beta testing" proved it out. It certianly looked like a great design. It is so tempting to get one @ $25K. I have a policy though that if I am EVER tempted to do something, I 100% don't. It has served me well when I do it. It was a fail every time I gave in to temptation. As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇
It's too bad to see the car and the company flop so hard. I really like their designs
The concept looks great! I'd never seen it
More outside the studio stuff please
Over here in the UK the Fisker Ocean is going for between mid 30's - late 40's 🤯
That cat collar looked tight ☹☹👍👍👍👍
If I had your experience with that listing site, I would quit looking there...
My friend bought one of the first Fisker's that came to Norway. Don't know if he still has it, but I never see him in it anyway. That trick of selling a lemon to someone and washing your hands off it, won't work in Norway. Consumer laws are too strong and you will have to return the money and take the car back, if there are any major problems with it, that you didn't tell the buyer up front. Same with houses, we are selling a property and had to pay for a very thorough report on it, so the buyer can see all that is needed on it. It is old, like 1948, and all the electric lines has to be changed. Hooray! :- (
Hoovie, I had to laugh last Saturday we went to LA and West bound on the I-210 there is a Tesla Sales, service center with dozens of Cyber Trucks sitting around plus 100's of cars. I thought of you and said there's Hoovies truck. Love both of your shows. Keep up the great work and April brings lots of smiles with her knowledge of automobiles.
The ocean is a pretty good looking car……just put an LS in it….
Yes, electric LS. Good idea. No more stinking smoking farting cars please.
The powertrain is about the only thing they got right with the car.
@@drunkenhobo8020 Besides the really bad efficiency compared to other products.
Besides the not lasting more than 500 starts.
Besides the demand for a big and very heavy battery. Yes.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 The efficiency is due to it having the aerodynamics of a brick. It also can do more than 500 starts, but not more than 500 launches. But how often will you do that in your family SUV?
@@drunkenhobo8020 "But how often will you do that in your family SUV?" Sometimes twice a day. Depends where i have to drive.
Today i took wifeys Model 3 and tried my best not to break the speed limit.
Dry roads, sunshine, no traffic no road markings on the small roads in the country side. And certianly no police or radar.
Fun.
Next week i will drive similar routes with my family SUV Model Y Long Range.
Last week we drove twice straight across the alps. And there are only few parts Autobahn where i do not drive over the limit of 130 km/h (i am no german)..
Fun!
I guess my 2023 Model Y has 400 "launches" left. Something about that.
I saw one today and it was kind of a treat. They are rare and a trainwreck. Probably like seeinf OJ in the wild after the trial
Tyler; Just watched the episode of 2 weeks ago where April and yourself debate the merits of the Lincoln vs your Benz. One of only a couple of Good Morning shows I have watched. Loved the interaction between you guys! I’m thinking you might consider having April on with you in the Hoovie’s Garage series. Just a thought. Best to go both.😊
That dude in the middle of the Autotempest website creeps me out...
Cats collar looks a bit tight.
Air Tag only works if near an iPhone.. need get your cat an iPhone also
I thought she was a cat that just showed up and now you are holding it hostage 😂
An Oil billionaire propping up an EV company? The irony is never-ending!
parts are going to be hard to get. even companies like tesla cant sell affordable parts.
Good Morning!
My only issue is Hoovie is condeming Fisker but Tesla gets a pass for the Cybertruck. If anything the Cybertruck situation is way worse.
Here in Toronto, Canada, I see allot of Tesla, specifically the Model 3. I have seen 1 or 2 Lucid however I think the biggest problem with Lucid is it's price. I have seen 2 Ravians, many and I mean many Toyota Prius.
The Ocean is absolutely gorgeous. Too bad it doesn't have a gas engine. Resale prices on used EV's are ALL cratering right now. Some have lost over half their value in just a year. EV's are FAR from green. 97% of all Subaru's are still in the road after 10 years. How many EV's will be on the road after 10 years? The answer is very few. Longevity of a product makes it so much greener.
No. You’ll only know where Nelix is when he’s within 80 feet of an iPhone…. The AirTag relies on its proximity to an iPhone in order to be tracked.
I'm wondering about Scout Motors ...
i like the cat
sounds like the seller made a 2nd account and was bidding against you with shill bidding.
Saw a article today about a Ocean owner.
She paid around 50-60k and had tons of issues but still wanted to love the car.
Well she recently had some minor damage done to one the doors. Cosmetic, a small dent, and broken hinge.
Her insurance company totaled the car.
She has been very lucky. Go buy a Camry!!
I wonder if all of this free press will ironically be what saves Fisker? I guess we will just have to wait and see 🤷♂
Doubt it
I saw one the other night. The taillights are cool at night.
They’ve got to open source the Fisker ocean software at this point, gear head tinkerers probably could pick them up as a spare car?!? Idk 🤷
Tyler is the hooptie king
Hope wizard can save you a trip to Philadelphia!
Petition for April and Tyler to set up a new EV company and call it ‘Whisker’. Obviously Neelix would be CEO 😀
Didnt Doug say dont buy the Mirage?
I also won't recommend the Mirage when you can get the much better Versa for cheaper.
That style of battery-engine hybrid is very like the diesel locomotives--diesel engine making electricity which drives electric motors.
You met my friend at barret jackson. He came up to you when yiu had the fisker hood open. No shout out ??😂😂
Just saw Fiskar karma 😮on the road yesterday. it looked good but hearing all the trouble and just the company crumbling around it I wouldn't want anything to do with those cars
Well, thanks, for sales discussions…..lots of monies in the Salespeoples , & Dramas, esp. EV.
I wonder if the Philadelphia guy will also make Oceans semi-usable?
I will not buy the first model year car, let alone a new manufacturer and model. Are they crazy? Big gamble in my opinion.
i've been reading about the price cut etc with Fisker a lot lately. From a lot of "current" or "former" employees: they were basically saying/echoing the same thing which is Fisker put his WIFE as the CFO of the company and she has no clue on how to run the company and makes tons of mistake in decisions.
Ocean nope. Original Karna yes. ❤
I ❤ my Fisker Ocean!
Huh? A printed manual IS a physical manual! 🤦🏻♂️
After 1.5 years, my Chevy Bolt EUV is going strong. It is a great car that has required no repairs so far. As long as you don't need to do long trips and can charge at home, EVs are great.
My Bolt EV is still going strong after 7 years. Only thing that has gone bad is the windshield washer fluid pump. I’ve even taken it on a couple of long-ish (800 miles) trips and it does fine, though the slow charging takes some patience.
It's a hundred years ago anew. New brands of the past, gone. Either swallowed up or out of business for whatever reason.
What about the Ford Explorer EV?
😂reminds me of the solar tech guy Will Prouse on yt bought a ford lightning last year and he tested it out for a few days and returned it to the dealer because it was a pos like that EV Porsche he had bought before the lightning.
Out of spec review bought a vinfast I think it uses BMW parts
However, Edmunds (and others) highly recommend Nelix.
Fisker is bankrupt because they forgot how to keep track of the money they received for selling cars. Not because they sell EVs.
Fix the infrastructure, get decent charging networks and watch EV sales skyrocket.
Saying stuff like EVs are dead while the best selling cars on the market today are electric is ridiculous.
EV will never outsell IC cars in a fair competition.
Let’s get rid of all the subsidies and tax breaks received by the oil companies AND the tax rebates that are currently available on electric cars, and check back in 5-10 years after gas prices have been in the $10-15 dollar per gallon range for a while.
@@WaywardBoyz Based on your comment, are you contending the current price of gas is roughly 1/3 the price it would be without subsidies? And what subsidies/tax breaks are these exactly?
US uses 376 million gallons of gasoline per day. By your numbers, the price would be $6-$12 more without this "subsidy", I'll call it $8 per gallon subsidy.
This would be over $1T per year....
Maff is hard.
@@sburns2421 I don’t have US numbers, but in Canada, where gas is already quite a bit more expensive than in the US, the petrol industry is subsidized to the level of 11 Billion dollars each year by the government.
And people complain about subsidized EVs still.
@@fleecystheking US would literally be 100X that to meet his numbers.
That's more than a hoopty buy, it's a stupid one
"Hasn't gained much traction"...ha ha ha.
The radio frequency is messing with her
Which is worse, the Tesla Cybertruck or the Fisker Ocean?
It is tough to describe to someone who hasn't seen it in person how indescribably ugly the Cybertruck is in person. It is like that old Simpsons episode where Homer is given free reign to design a car for his brother's company.
@@sburns2421 I've seen a Fisker Ocean around but not a Cybertruck yet. The Ocean looked fine and the option to roll down all the windows was neat. The Cybertruck is just ridiculous, I think I would just point and laugh at it.
If you were in a sketchy area you definitely were NOT in Palm Beach. lol
I wonder what is goin to happen when the Chinese Car is coming out to the US 👍☺️
Unless it is literally half or even less than a comparable car from any manufacturer outside of China, they will sit on the lot unsold.
There are some decent Chinese motorcycles now. A surprising number of enthusiasts simply refuse to consider them because of the political tension between the countries (comments probably typed on an IPhone...irony)
A Chinese bike that is 80% cost of Japanese or European will never sell. 70% is a tough sell. 50% you might see some people taking a look to have a brand new vs used bike.
And these are toys. Imagine the hesitancy for a car that you have to use to get around...
@@sburns2421
Well… you make excellent points … I was just reading up on the car called the suv7 … wich looks like a Porsche… and the price was VERY COMPETITIVE… will see how this goes 👍
I can't remember who, but one of the youtube tech review guys reviewed one of these and so much stuff just did not work. A very beautiful piece of junk.
Uncle Rich proceeds to buy one 😂
What a shame all these cars are beautiful
4:04 🤣
I wish fisker would have worked out. It looks good. Way better than any Bmw ev
So its a tiny 4 cylinder real gas engine with a Honda gen set to charge the batteries. LOL how idiotic. All do respect, WHY would anyone buy a small engine "performance car", then add a lot of useless weight??
Isn't Edmunds creating a self-fulfilling prophecy by telling people not to buy the Fisker Ocean, virtually guaranteeing it won't make enough sales to survive? My advice is, if you want more choice in the EV market, and like the Ocean, then buy one.
Could you please check out the new Silverado e v looks pretty cool better than a tesla
Are there any farmhouse updates? How is the dream barn coming along?
you coming to the mcpherson college car show? this saturday
Are you guys aware of the image with the little girl that pops up at minute 4:04 for a few frames? It was probably left in the final edit by accident. 😂
Pause and read. It's a popular CZcams video editing gimmick.
@@davidapharry4680 I feel like it is better suited for a short rather than an informative podcast style format. I did pause and look at it when I first saw it. It kind of took me out of what I wanted to hear and then I stopped watching all together. I don't know if this is a productive gimmick for your type of content.
Tyler, why not do a vid about all the long forgotten car manufacturers from the twenties through the fifties that went belly up quickly. Your audience is unaware.
IMO the established car companies will end up being the major EV car manufacturers. They have both the financial stability and knowledge of what works and doesn’t work in cars that these new manufacturers do not have. I would not buy Fisker, Lucid, Rivian, Lordstown, Vinfast, or any other small EV manufacturer.
Lucid mite survive
Rivian has that huge Amazon delivery van contract to keep them going for a while. Hope they hang in there until they can put their smaller, less expensive models into production.
The tech is not there yet!
Been a HG subscriber for years. Don't click like but I did for this video because of the cat. Will click like on all videos with the cat. BTW greeting from Guyana, South America
Happy with the wife’s hybrid. No interest in full ev.
Ford can’t sell E Mustang either.
If Nelix is still acting weird after a few weeks try a different coler (?) on her, just a simple one. It might be the electrics that is causing the issue.
Throw your batteries in the Ocean recharge the eels
Maybe Toyota has the right idea. Electric hybrid is the logical stepping stone to electrified cars while we wait for advances and maturity of new battery tech and construction materials to slim down the lbs on theses batteries. Also American infrastructure moves slow like a massive aircraft carrier, and we’re being compared to Norway which is smaller than The greater Los Angeles area in population density. Norway is a speed boat, US is a cruise ship/aircraft carrier.
I stood next to the Ionic 5 at my local dealer, she looks good, but man is she a big gal, roughly measured it next to my ‘20 Corolla 6mt, the 5 is about 6 inches bigger on all dimensions, plus it has 20 inch wheels, what is this midnight club dub edition?!?
The Ionic 5 looks sweet but seeing the size of the regular one, and seeing that the n gets 21 inch wheels left an empty feeling inside, this may not be the direction for enthusiast electric cars. I know everyone complain of the lack of soul and sound, but I get that same feeling when I drive my Corolla, to start having fun you’re already breaking the law and I just feel bubble wrapped most of the times. But then it hit me, I longboard and that is engaging and thrilling, yet it has no engine noise. It might be a lack of driver engagement that is missing nowadays. Autonomous cars might be the future for 90 percent of the populous, but us enthusiasts appreciate driver engagement, we like feeling it’s an extension of our bodies and abilities, like we’re active participant in the experience. It’s like driving a lotus 7/mx-5/motorcycle, rider and horse are one, but modern cars/autonomous transportation feels closer to riding public transportation/riding the bus, and unfortunately the sporty one might feel like riding roller coaster instead of piloting a plane.
lol long as rant, good luck with the Karma, hopefully she’s got a heart of gold, and isn’t too high maintenance!
This EV would be my first one to purchase despite what "reviewers" that aren't actual car guys/gals are saying. This vehicle is MINT and I hope to get one in my driveway. 👍💯👊
over valued is different from making money.
Animals are more sensitive to electromagnetic radiation, such as in electronics ... the Airtag!
Either change your table or put a table cloth on it the reflection of your Mac book is very distracting
Ford sent me a email offering EV's at a HUGE discount. Never at my house!!! Thx
GREAT content again !
Tyler’s GF looks at him with so much love when he speaks
I’m glad he found the right woman ☺️
First!
12 years old!
Being “ant-tech” is not the reason one shouldn’t buy an EV. There are so many, many, many other reasons not to.
Wanting to pay like 5-10x+ more for gas vs home charging? Higher maintenance costs and overall cost of ownership? Wanting to pump gas in winter temps while you drop gas on yourself to fill up? Want to smoke out your garage if you precondition it? Have a great 'exhaust note' like it's the 1990s? Still have a Blackberry so ICE vehicle pairs well with it? Want to pollute the planet more cause climate change isn't real?
I would like to know all those reasons. I went all electric 7 years ago and haven’t regretted it for a minute. Obviously I missed, and continue to miss, all the reasons I shouldn’t have done so…
@@WaywardBoyz same here, 7 years, 2 EVs and in maybe coldest metro city in US. I feel that anyone speaking anti EV online either haven’t ever known what they’re even really like to own/use, or they’re just speaking of “fun hobby” car, not a daily driver for what is most people’s daily/family lives. Sure, I have a 75 Olds convertible w a big ole V8. It’s fun for specific times too, but 2024 daily use a gas vehicle seems so silly once ya know.
Like listening to people you vote for.
@@WaywardBoyzwait until you need a battery 🤓
What??? You say you regularly get screwed when doing business in Florida? What? Say it isn’t so! Well, paint me green and call me a pickle. Surprise. Surprise…
Cat.
Scotty Kilmer says do not buy almost daily. 😂😂😂
Henrik Fisker genius designer but terrible business man.