On the Wrist, from off the Cuff: Christopher Ward - C60 Trident Mk3, 40mm vs. 42mm
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- On this episode we take a another look at Christopher Ward's C60 Trident Mk3 but this time the point of focus is to compare and contrast the new 40mm offering with their more classic (to the C60 line) 42mm size option. I know for me, I was quite intrigued by the idea of a 40mm C60 Trident but upon closer inspection, I feel that the 42mm has the best overall proportions. Now if you have a smaller wrist, then the 38mm or 40mm are a no brainer BUT if you're normally fine with larger sizes like me but prefer a 40mm watch's typical 'golden' proportions and scale, this video might really help you out. Let me know what you think in the comments below, thanks guys!
Congratulations to CW for making three sizes. We are not in a one size fits all world.
Thank you so much for this review.
I’ve been riding this fence.
42 it is.
Same!
I like the 40mm in this video, and think that you getting used to the 42mm may have affected your impression. I wore a 42mm Traser for years, and then started wearing my Dad's Seiko 37mm. Most 40mm watches in my collection seemed a little small before, and now seem a little large. I think one's brain adapts to a size, and it takes a while to "re-see" it. I also prefer the less dramatic taper - it just seems more "vintage" to me somehow. All of this said, my wrist is 6.75", and the 42mm C60 I tried on felt just a touch too big. I have not tried on the 40mm yet, so you might be right.
I think the 40mm looks better on your wrist.
What makes or breaks the look of a watch on my 6.5" wrist id the wing-span. I do have 42mm sized watches and one in 43 with a very short wings-span (lug-to lug) relative to the dial diameter, and it fits me and looks great.
I think the 40mm looks perfect on your wrist as well as the 42mm. It’s down to personal preference really.. love the watch ❤️ thank you for a great video showing the drifference in both sizes 👍
Oh yeah bro, I'm ordering the 42mm right now for my 7.5in wrist!!!
Perfect timing ... I got the 42mm black on release . Bringing in the blue and was unsure whether to go 40mm . I think I will stick with the 42mm
Brian Mcginlay I see what you did there....
In the past I wouldn’t look at anything under 42mm but now I really love 40mm on my 7 inch wrist. I own the C65 trident at 41mm and that is a sleek watch and even it looks a tad big where as before it was perfect. I honestly think your perceptions change over time. You wont go wrong with either 40 or 42mm
This is a great video...and is a BIG issue when buying something on the internet, without being able to try each on. Thanks for your help. I think I'll be getting the black 42 very soon on sale!
Appreciate the insight! This video did help me make my choice between the 42 and the 40. I'm going 42 thanks to you. great content
I think the 40 looks better on your wrist. The 42 looks too big although I do get your point about the bracelet taper.
Splitting the difference between 40 and 42, my C65 GMT wears perfectly on a 7.5" wrist, very tempted by this in 42 though.
For sub 7 inch wrists, the 40mm looks more proportional. On your wrist the 42 is a better option.
I have a 7in wrist and chose the 40mm, it fits great and I love it.
I tried the 42mm at the CW London gtg and it looked fine too, I'm lucky that either works but as i have a speedy pro already I wanted the smaller version as my daily wearer
I like the branding... Place... And ghost logo! It makes a cw a cw
Hi friend Bros medi. I'm writing from Italy, and I wanted to tell you that I really liked your video and also the C.W. watches. I wanted to tell you that even for me, on your wrist is better the 40mm in my humble opinion. Bye and good luck
Would have been nice if you had got the 40mm in blue to compare the colours. Heck would have been cool if you got a 38mm as well to compare all 3 sizes. While you can easily pull off the 42mm, I unfortunately can’t with a dainty 6.5” wrist. For me it would be a toss up between the 38mm and 40mm. Still not sure about the hand set (though I like how it’s kind of unique). Wish they’d ditch the 9 o’clock CW text. Would look better in my opinion with the new flag logo coloured at the 12 o’clock position. Great video as always.
Different strokes for different folks. My wrist is just about 7 inches and I don't like anything over 38mm, even in a dive watch. The fact that the Trident is available in 38 is what sold me.
Pete Picciolo would the 38 look good on a 6.5 or should I get the 40 mm ?
@@jalenalexander460 personally, I think a 38 would look better. I'm just not a fan of "modern sizes."
I have a 7in wrist and 38mm looks too small on me, especially for a dive watch. I would typically go for 41mm as my sweet spot.
That’s no 7.25” wrist sir. That watch is tight. Love your videos, thank you for sharing the knowledge
This sold me on getting the 42 because I like the bracelet taper more as you mention. The 40 bracelet doesn't have much of a taper and looks more like a cuff to me or like the Seamster bracelet that does not taper. Thank you!
I just received my 40mm and it's taking me some time to get used to the diminutive size. It fits like a glove but it just looks off...I think I should've gone for the 42mm.
What is your wrist size JPark?
Love all the feedback guys, one thing to clarify, this video is in no means a shot at the 40mm size. The scale that suits your wrist best is subjective, the focus is more on the more objective proportions of the watch elements apart from the wrist. In the video description, I even mention, "Now if you have a smaller wrist, then the 38mm or 40mm are a no brainer BUT if you're normally fine with larger sizes like me but prefer a 40mm watch's typical 'golden' proportions and scale, this video might really help you out."
40mm will be perfect for many..
You might like to try a wall clock on a bracelet
@@petert3412 if you think 1mm on either side of the case, is the difference between a wall clock and a wrist watch, this video won't help you
@@AverageBros lol, the trend is moving back to 39mm maybe smaller, dive watches will settle in at 40mm
Btw. good video
I like the look of the 42, it seems like a more proportional fit! Beautiful!
Christopher ward trident pro 600 mk3 or certina ds action diver?
Great vid! How long did it take you to synchronize those 2 automatics so accurately?
Thanks for the side-by-side...and all of your great videos! From my perspective I do think the 40mm is closer to the perfect size for your wrist but I do see the appeal of the larger version as well as believe a little bigger is better than a little smaller. I will however need to say that your review on the 38mm titanium Helson did lead me astray. My wrist size is about the same as yours but I find that watch just too small. It actually is making me lean toward a 42mm in this one for myself. I think Random Rob felt the same way about these two watches. I am curious how the case feels size-wise underneath the bezel...looks smaller which is also pointing me toward the 42mm.
Great vid, one question though, why did you show the watches on your thighs?
Great review as usual...thanks,been waiting for this,finally somebody willing to do out of the main stream review..
Would you please have a look at the one with in-house sh21 movement?and the c1 moon glow?thanks again
Damn Mark...I bought the 40mm & now I want the 42😂. I agree with everything you had to say about the golden ratio (and the logo)😂
Lol, thanks Chris!
Very good point on proportions. The 22 mm bracelet (on the 42 mm watch) definitely looks better. The watches however, look equally good although the bezel is slightly (proportionally ) thinner one the 40 mm. Personally I will go for the 40 as my wrist is slim.
I have to agree with other comments that think the 40 fits you better. Although I believe it’s completely a matter of personal preference. I’ve been acquiring a taste for smaller watches lately (38-40’s). Btw you have a great video on smaller watches that I recently viewed and was very enjoyable.
The difference between being able to “pull it off” and a “perfect or ideal fit” is something I’m just recently understanding (again, “ideal fit” could be just a personal preference)
To my eyes the 40 is an ideal fit for you and you can pull off the 42. And I agree that the 38 for this model is too small.
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I just don't really like the proportions on the 40, the scale is great but the proportions just don't compare to the balance between dial, bezel, and bracelet proportions on the 42.
Average Bros you got a good point there.
Nice review! I have a smaller wrist size than you so I'm going to have to go with the 40mm. I do get that the 42mm has a better look in regards to the bracelet due to the tapering. Thumbs up! Bummed that it's $900, may just be too expensive for my wallet. Family, kid's college funds, bills and life in general you know...
Keep an eye out for sales, they typically do a 30% off deal annually
Cw has coupon codes if you're interested respond back.
@@AverageBros I had no idea that they offer a 30 percent off deal! This is amazing news. I will definitely wait to get it. When is their once a year deal?
I am TOTALLY confused now after this video of these 2 sizes. I guess that I would buy the 42 based on this, and hopefully they would exchange it if it was too big for me and I wanted the 40 instead.
@@private464 it typically around Christmas time
@@AverageBros Thank you.
I prefer 42mm no matter what . Thanks for comparing these cool watches . I dislike tapering bracelets but CW somehow seems to manage to do it in a subtle way .
This is a very strange piece . The 42 mm wears very big for its dimension and yet for some reason the 40mm wears more like a 39 mm and has an almost puck like stance on the wrist . I actually really like the 40mm but it does look quite small initially and takes a bit of getting used to . I’m thinking it would probably wear very well as a 41mm , but then again this is not a certainty..
Nice, in-depth comparison/review. I think 40mm looks more cohesive. And yes you have missed out on one information, a non critical (critical for me) but a curious one, the weight of the watches. It would be nice in future reviews if you could please include that piece of information. I personally prefer heavy watches where weight speaks of quality (not always though). I have held very expensive watches in my hands and I swear I could have snapped them in half as easily as Arnott's biscuits.
I got the 38mm fits really comfortable though I could’ve gone bigger to 40mm sweet spot for me
The 40mm is thinner but has a larger thickness to diameter ratio.
The 42 looks better on you you’re right about the taper I’m like six and a quarter so id be between the 38 and 40 do you think the 40 would fit me well?
I have a 6.3"/16cm wrist. I have 3 38mm C60s. I have tried on the 40 and while it fit without any issues, I just prefer the 38.
Mark Gill thank you so much. My wrist is actually six and a half but it looks smaller than that as its so narrow on top. I like trying watches on before buying thats a problem with microbrands. cheers
Personally I prefer the 40mm.
How does the 40 compare to say a Tisell Marine Diver and the 42 to the Squale 30 Atmos GMT?
both of the aforementioned have closer to traditional Rolex Sub proportions as far as dial to bezel ratio
Funny you should ask that question - I found a comparison with the Tissel here www.christopherwardforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=52021
For my 6 1/2 size wrist, which logo font size would fit best in your opinion? :)
Do you find bezel action on 40mm is looser than 42mm? I just acquired a 40mm and while the bezel action is really satisfying, it has the most play among my dive watches. I've seen people reporting this on 40mm but not on other sizes.
correct, I mention it towards the end of my video
Wouldn't it depend on then individual's wrist size? My wrist is only 16mm in circumference
Any chance of doing a review on Glashutte Original Seaq Panorama Date with SS bracelet. Would be great to see your thoughts on that.
I actually think the 40mm looks more in proportion to your wrist size, the 42mm looks slightly oversized. My wrist size is also 7.25in and I have the same dilemma!
I have thre 40mm in black perfect for me and my 6 and 3/4 inch wrist.
So the 40mm is not just scaled down, but proportions are also just slightly changed. Interesting.
I’m deciding as I write this.....40mm vs 42mm c60 trident with blue dial and metal bracelet. My wrist is same size as yours, just over 7in. I’ve got to agree with majority, 40mm looks better on you.
I'm not a walking wrist, so unfortunately a wrist shot doesn't tell the whole story, additionally I dislike the proportions of the 40mm although the 40mm scale is nice, the ratios of each dimension don't play as well as the 42. The overly wide center link, the short fat proportioned case etc. But hey, what do I know? I'm just the guy who's actually handled these watches and many many more...
@@AverageBros I've seen it mentioned a few times in the comments but can you explain what the "golden ratio" is? Is that the ratio between case diameter and thickness? Thanks!
@@EEE-1409 when only looking at the numbers, regardless of design factors, many specifically gravitate towards watches that are 40mm in diameter with a 20mm lug width and a Lug to Lug no longer than 50mm. It's not a perfect ratio but often can become the line in the sand defining if a large majority of collectors will entertain or not.
These watches are a good example of not just using the millimeters of absolute dimensions to tell you which is ultimately the best fit.
Think on your wrist the 42 is appropriate on mine the smaller case would give me the same effect.
indeed, the 40 mm looks like the design of the 42, but compacted, squeezed, it somewhat loses the beauty of the 42mm. The design was created majestically for the 42 with adaptation to the 40mm. If the scale were reduced proportionately in everything, then it would be perfect. But it is not what we see here. Congratulations on your insight and analysis.
You believe 42mm version it's same like 42mm omega planet ocean old version?
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Hi. Is it true that if you want maintain your 5 y warranty, you must service your watch after 2-3y on CW service center ? What is 40mm dial diameter ?
I wouldn't be surprised, most any warranty beyond immediate factory defects would require as much for a mechanical movement
@@AverageBros Thanks.
HI! thank you for your reviews they are always amazing! I am thinking of buying the CW Trident but I am tremendously undecided about the size ... you say 42mm would be perfect but also for my 6.5 inch wrist? don't you think it is better the 38mm? thanks again!
I can help with this. I’ve had the 38mm trident and have now purchased the 40mm. I have a 6.5 inch wrist. The 38mm looks taller and bulkier on wrist because it looks almost squashed, the height is more spread out on the 40mm so looks better on wrist. Plus the cast curves downwards to hug the wrist so fit 6.5” wrist, 40mm is the better option I think
@@thrifty85thx i worried abuot lug to jug because i think in 40 mm version is 47 mm and in the 38mm is 45mm.
@@wazatam but is not like a flat lug to lug like say a Rolex submariner. These mugs curve down a lot so it’s almost part of the strap. Because they hug the wrist so much it wears more like a 45mm lug to lug. I’ve just sent a watch back with 47mm lug to lug because it was a flat case and didn’t look right, whereas with the CW cases are completely different
I would be interested to know how you feel the Silver you just reviewed and the CW C60 compare in 40mm for wear? I am hoping to see the CW 40mm in NY next month, at the WindUp show.
the Silver was made to be smaller, so all of the proportions are dialed in for that scale
Yo they're discontinued now!
Thanks for the size comparison video. I'm considering getting the CW c60. Just curious if any one knows what the actual dial sizes are in the 40 and 42mm versions. It will help me decide. Thanks in advance.
For an 18 mm wrist, a watch with a diameter of 38 mm is better. If your wrist is 18.5 or more, then it’s better to consider a watch with a case size of 40 mm or more.
We need red in 40, come on CW
Not gonna happen. The red bezel is not going to be made anymore... Supplier says it's too hard.
@@gnarl12 thanks for the info.
40mm is not a good size for this watch. from my exp. 40mm works for the submariner/ gmt master/ raven trekker.. I saw both sizes of this watch at the windup NYC event. 42mm is perfect.
I agree that the 42mm has the optimal proportions
This is a great looking watch but I've read horror stories on the forums on how bad Ward's customer service is. Many people complaining of problems with the watches and very poor customer care. Its for this reason that I did not purchase one.
Every brand has horror stories, typically the hope is that the product will hold up to the point that you'll never need customer service but I get the concern.
I had the 42 and it is a nice watch. Service though, no ok. I had to send the watch back because it was vibrating when wound. They said that was expected and did not need repairing. They is video out there of people experiencing the same thing. I think the problem should be addressed. That just felt wrong so I decided not to keep it. It took almost a month before I got the watch back. It was stuck on hold due to them not completing the paperwork. I had to fight to get the watch so I could sell it. Once it arrived they kept the booklet for the watch. I requested they return it and they sent another booklet (wrong watch).
Watch is a quality product. I think the 40 would have been a better size for me. The vibration was just too much.
I returned mine as I was not happy with the bezel click (after all the hype) but asked for a replacement and the new one was perfect. Customer service was great/quick/personal so cant grumble.
My understanding is that they were not expecting the level of sales they got for this 40mm and it pushed their capabilities- I've heard theyrw on top of it now and you have buyer protection when you buy online(and with a credit card) so my advice would be dont miss out down to horros stories.
The watch is great (and I've owned Rolex, jlc, paneria, omega etc)
@@als1440 What vibration problem are you talking about?
Especially, if they told you that was expected.
Please explain what you experienced.
I have a blue trident in perfect shape worn about 10 times less than 6 months old for sale?
What size and model? How much and where you based? 👍🏻
@@FatSamEIE it's the 43mm blue trident pro 600 on bracelet---- looking for 500 00 and I'm located in Grayslake Illinois----- it's only been worn 10 times
Actually I think its 42mm it's a 2019 version
@@steveregotti8542 Hey, is your watch still available?
I personally believe a dive watch over 41mm is too big. I like the 40mm c60 better.
Man, way too much empty air talking
6 to 6.5 inch wrist get 38mm, 6.5 to 7 wrist inch get 40mm, 7+ inch wrist get 42mm
Wrong. It’s the lug to lug and case shape you should be looking at. The trident cases curve down to hug the wrist whereas say a submariner has a flat slab style case and doesn’t hug the wrist at all. I have 6.5” wrist and the 40mm fits like a glove
You're wearing your watch too low down.
42mm overcomes your wrist sorry, you need 7.5 or better to pull this 42 off
Where do i buy ? Whats price ?
43mm
The Mk3 went back down to 42mm
Than its 42mm I didn't realize
@@steveregotti8542 it's in the title of the video, lol
@@AverageBros duh lol
The 42 looks better on your wrists because your fingers are fat and you wrists are pretty chubby as well. The 40 would wear better on Normal thinner wrists.
Your wrist are kinda...fat. Or you are retaining water. Can't even see your wrist bone.
Puffy lol no hand modeling for you!
The 42 looks way to big on your wrist, the proportions of the 40mm watch look much better. The 42 overpowers your wrist to the point it looks comical. Also, wear you watches further up on your wrist and not so far down, they're practically on the back of your hands.
How about you wear your watches how you want to, and let other wear theirs how they feel comfortable. Do you tell strangers how tight to tie their shoes also?
@@skrem23 Jog on son 👍🏻
Do I want to wear a generic-looking watch with 'Christopher Ward' written on the dial? No, thanks.
thanks for the feedback
@@AverageBros As predicted. Great review. I agree with you completely on the bracelet, but I think I prefer the slightly smaller indices on the 40, I've also got a sub 7" wrist.