On the Wrist, from off the Cuff: Christopher Ward - C60 Trident Mk3, ENDGAME
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- On this special episode we finally unveil the Christopher Ward’s third generation C60 Trident diver, the Mk3. The CW Trident has been not only popular since its earliest iterations, it’s also been extremely influential. The value proposition that the Trident line has commanded over the years has really set the benchmark for what you can expect to receive in an affordable independent diver. So much so, that it’s even helped pave the way for many other microbrands to really continue a revolution in quality, design, and affordability that has pressured some of the entry-level and even mid-tier mainstream brands to take notice as well, which has helped spur a myriad of updates to the class leading midrange divers. With the Trident Mk3 release, Christopher Ward is once again putting the industry on notice as the bar is raised to unheard of levels, even in the highly competitive Microbrand Diver market. It’s only fitting that the ‘arms race’ of affordable diver improvements and innovations CW helped kickoff, is now thriving and ready for another benchmark release from the brand. The new C60 has cemented the Trident name as a permanent staple of the ‘my first real watch’ conversation and even moved it into the ‘Affordable Grail’ territory as well. Let me know what you think in the comments below, thanks guys!
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Fantastic watch. I just purchased one. I would also like to thank for an excellent review……one of the best I have experienced.
Thanks Marshall, I really appreciate that!
For the price point it blows EVERYTHING out the water. Definitely next on my list
@@EricSloferwatchreviews nice link to a 2011 post 😂
Thanks for review. I’d just recommend that in the future holding the watch and showing us more of it while you discuss related topics over the last 10 minutes. Hard to only see it laying still from an odd angle for so long a time.
CW is the best kept secret in the watch world. I own 3 trident c60’s 600m. 38mm black gmt center logo, 40mm c60 black, and 38mm black/red bezel. You can’t get better price vs quality or great looks and comfort than CW.
Christopher Ward have definitely surpassed microbrand status now.
Just superb for the money. Classy, refined and stylish. Gives longines hydroconquest, oris Aquis, Rado captain cook and Even their across town neighbours Bremont as well as many others a great run at a much better price. Can not put a foot wrong with this baby.
Outstanding Im glad that I waited for this to arrive, thank you
Simply sublime at the price . A monta ocean king shipped to Europe including tax and shipping is almost two thousand five hundred dollars so that tells us something.. Addressed the size issue and have progressed the watch remarkably well .looking forward to receiving mine . Own quite a few high end pieces and tend get annoyed when people always assume that expensive must be better . CW prove it’s not necessarily the case , some just like a larger mark up ..
Thanks for the review, I wish they reduced 600m to 300m, and reduced thickness from 13.5 to 13 or even 12.5 if possible.
I see the 40 mm is 13mm thick with 20mm lug width, this is better for me, still wish they would drop the useless for me 600m water and reduce thickness to 12.5 mm.
@@lonnythompson8131 Agreed, I'd like to see a slim 300m model as well
I agree, 600m is meaningless!
Lonny Thompson me too, who needs 600m ?
Lucky Strike I'm pretty sure that less than 1% of c60 buyers really need the 600m, so it's irrelevant. 300m and a thinner case would make the other 99% happy.
All I can say is CW makes the best watches at this price point. I own Steinharts, Hamiltons, Seikos and its not even close.
I’ve got the best girlfriend in the world... she just bought me one 😍🥳
I think I need to upgrade my wife to Mk2...
Hahaha mine has just bought me the GMT for my bday! I might keep her
Excellent review, been waiting for this!
They brushed the top of the lugs...finally!
jeremaester and the center links !
From the previews, I wasn't into the dial design... But the case rework, and the bracelet upgrade, is quite significant here. These C60s now are setting the bar for microbrands, imo - becuase the case now is better done that most micros, the bracelet is way way better, and even the thickness-per-WR is above what micros can deliver.
well said, I'm really impressed by the case (I'm sure that it'll be even more impressive in person) and tool-less micro adjust at this 1k price point is very hard to overlook (especially with the inevitable sales). Lastly, 38/40/42mm is absolutely incredible for any brand...
Agreed. Plus their cases are better off than other swiss brands costing 3 times. It helps that the place that makes tudor cases also makes cward cases.
Might be the trident I finally go for. Size is great
Good review, nice to see someone that covers every aspect of the watch and service that CW offer
Tbh, for €1000 (o $1000), there's pretty much nothing that can compete with this, currently. CW's attention to case design & bracelet construction are becoming obvious. Other micros currently cannot compete with this. Damasko still has their case materiality - so they have a good claim at this pricepoint too - but that's about it.
NTH? Orion Calamity? Squale? Oris?
Monta. Best finishing and quality.
Looked at some Oris earlier today at a store, they aren't remotely as refined, not even close, and they are more expensive. IMHO, Oris can't compete with this.
Oris is twice as expensive and this is twice as water resistant. You can get also a titanium one for 300 dolar less, cosc certified, 1000 meter water resistant, helium escape valve.
@@VTheGuerrilla Monta is a beautiful watch too but it is 2x as expensive. It should be a better-finished watch. Twice as nice...not so sure.
Looks great. Think they have got it just right with this one.
Great review, thank you. Punches way, way above its price point.
There will always be detractors who say "Nice but not as nice as my Black Bay" while completely ignoring the vastly different price points.
Robert Howcroft funny I think this look far better than my black bay!!
QPRcat me too
Such a beautiful diver 👌🏻
I find it interesting that CW has moved the brand text around to suit the watch. Here, it balances out the date. The 9 o'clock position also makes a lot of sense for keeping the text out of the way of the date, and any sub-circles at the 12 and 6. On other models, they have moved it to the 3, the 12, or removed it entirely. It did take me a while to warm up to it being at the 9, but I can't argue with everything this watch brings for the price. I think 40mm would be more for me, but the 42mm works on your wrist very well. Enjoy!
Awesome review! Was looking forward to watching it all day. 👍
Congratulations on being the 27th youtuber watch channel to review. CW sure gave away a bunch of these.
I was actually the first to get one of these
Lol guy wishes he got one too
@@HowWeSeeItPodcast The point being made is CW is flooding YT with these freebie watches to the youtube watch channels. I cannot get past the logo and have no desire for this or any other CW watch. If I did receive this watch as a freebie as this channel has I would give it to my gardener who comes and cuts the grass once a week or the guy at the carwash. Same movement and build characteristics can be found for $500 cheaper.
@@Yakena1 where can I get a watch this well made for 500less please
Looking forward to it, I've just seen another MK3 exclusive drop on WIAA. Great case redesign.
An improvement for sure. Great size. I would have liked to see a redesign of the indices
They were redesigned but still in baton shape
Very good and cool review,keep up this way.The watch is great,C.Ward done a great job,but...What do you people think about Longines Hydroconquest2018 vs Oris 65 diver vs this C60?I am looking for a next 40mm watch and the budget is around 1000 euros.Also,I have a 16.50 cm wrist.Thank you
Well I know this question is indeed but after owning over 100 watches from 50 dollars too 15000.00 I can say the c.ward is a step above those mentioned. I can say I purchased and sold a few Wards because their is just something about having a brand name with history on the wrist but as of lately I only wear my c. Ward. It's such a piece of beauty
Awesome review. Do you know if the bracelet improvements will be carried over to the C65 range? I love this new design, but I think the C65 (likely GMT) still speaks to me more.
Good looking watch for sure.
I have the blue 42mm GMT. The orange GMT hand works great with blue but the black dial really should have a red GMT hand. THAT would be a GREAT combination!
I think it's awesome! I may have to get one!
Made it to the end! ha ha..... Great review. Love the redesign here. That case! Love the new indices and handset as well as the high gloss dark black dial. Since I already have too many watches, I'm really glad they don't offer a version with a SS bezel w/ no lume except triangle....I'd definitely have to get that. I'd also like to see what this looked like if that black ceramic bezel insert had a matte finish. I am one of those that was apoplectic over that huge bright full name branding on the dial like a billboard on their other models. However, I think the font works better on this Mk3. More in keeping with the contemporary styling here. That's not to say I love it but I think it does work. Wish it was less dominant tho. I imagine that In person rather than huge on screen and in pics it may actually look decent or at least not make me nuts.
I ordered the 40mm last night while on holiday so it should be at home when I return- never owned a CW before as always repped Seiko at this price point, but fed up of misaligned chapter rings and all the various other seiko issues. Was mainly won over by the 40mm size, multitude of features and the 0% interest offer on the site, means I only pay £45 a month for a year
Interesting what you said about the bracelet. Was a lot easier to adjust than my speedy!
If you can, please share what the cost of duties were, if you ordered directly from C. Ward. TIA.
I want a quartz version of this sooo bad. Mechanical watches are a hassle with my lifestyle.
Interesting to have a comparison with the Monta OceanKing. 😊
I think they should have dropped the name, and applied the logo in chrome.
JaxWatchesandEDC would’ve looked 10x better if they did that
I did not think I would like this at all, but I really do like it, very good value for sure. I really disliked the wave dial, so that is a huge improvement. I just bought the Aquis 39.5, curious to know how they would compare
Congrats on the aquis! Such a cool watch. I was really mulling over the 39.5 but this c. ward in 38mm would give me more strap options so I'm leaning more towards the trident.
@@HamnJam51 Thanks, it is gorgeous, yeah if you want to change straps I would go CW.
How does it compare to the Monta Oceanking? Looks like it's up there
Excellent review good sir.
Really liked the Gen 2 features. If buying a new one I’d go for the C65 trident 60s inspired over the new release
I quite like this redesign, but I have been saving up for Monta OceanKing and this isn’t quite good enough to tempt me away from that. Still a great watch though!
I wish they kept the old logo or old font , big sigh
Could you demonstrate the micro-adjust clasp more in depth? How to actuate it and if it pushes in/out freely or if it locks in each position. Thanks in advance!
They needed to put the “Christopher Ward” text back under the 12 o’clock marker. Looks so stupid and asymmetrical at the 9 o’clock position and shortens the lumed hour marker. Theres a reason this is unique to Christopher Ward. Wish the second hand lollipop passed on the outside of the hour markers too. Like the update to the hands and bezel though. Overall a very good watch for the money, but I’d still rather get the 39.5mm Oris Aquis Date. The hassle of sending this to the UK for service is too much for me. Nice review as always.
If they raise the price to $1200 and it’s cosc standard I will be blown away
Reminds me of a Breitling Superocean 2.
Finally someone who “gets it” regarding the CW logo. Thanks
I think it should be the other way. Ghost the logo Christopher Ward and have the logo by 12 o'clock pronounced and even have it applied. That logo does look elegant.
I love the watch, it's a fantastic piece but I am also one of the people put off by the Christopher Ward logo. It's bland a.f and totally uninspiring.
Just ordered the 40mm version :)
Paul Hughes what wrist size are you? I’m 6.8 and still growing and I’m not sure if I should get the 40 or 42. Thanks!
@@Yt-gc9us About 7", 40mm is perfect. Although, because of the way the watch curves I think the 42mm would be fine too. But the 40mm is very nicely proportioned watch. You'll love either :)
Paul Hughes thanks mate! Have fun with your watch
I want this really bad !
CW is no micro brand anymore. They were founded fifteen years ago and sell in excess of 20,000 watches per year. On top of this, CW has their own in-house movement and movement design and manufacturing house. Now, if they could only settle on a logo...any logo, just pick one.
Nothing like it for the price..
hi bro, how long the lume glow in the dark?
That dial still looks like it's missing something. I get that they're trying to do something unique with the name at 9 o'clock but there's too much blank space at 12.
George Yang CW has been pushing the fact that they listened to all their customers when they made changes to this new version, but apparently they overlooked the millions of comments about the horrendous logo and dial position
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It's a nice looking watch ...but theres no history I prefer to splash out on a great Seiko or Longines
Why do you wear your watch on the girls wrist
The lume lasted 2 minutes!
The lugs look too wide at 22mm. I think 20mm would have been more balanced. Pin and collar bracelet is also a let down IMO. I like the dial design and the 40mm size though.
I agree they dropped the ball , they needed Screws instead of pins and ditch the SW200 I DON'T LIKE THE REVERSING WHEELS .
@@EricSloferwatchreviewsAll of those things were done to hit a price point. If you want those features, go pay more for a watch that has them.
It's a 42mm, so 22mm is the proportional size. The 20mm Lugs fit the 40mm model well but all bracelets only taper down to 18mm, so the 22 width has a nicer taper.
@@davidspagnolo4870 MIDO Ocean Star Captain V titanium $640 oh and I brought it.
Isn’t there a 38mm C69 Trident? Is it a 20mm tapering to 18mm as well?
The difference between Oris and Ward is over 100 years of watchmaking 🤣 i hope that Ward solidifice their design, so there is some heritage to the brand.. my only gripe with my trident c60 mk2 is the feeling... it just doesn't feel the same as something with a stronger heritage or traditions... the quality is top notch, can't argue with that.. eventually the last edition was a mishmash of ques from other brands, which i grew tired of...
I would say Oris are unrecognisable from the Oris brand 100 years ago- having been bought two or three times since then.
@@FatSamEIE so then Oris don't have heritage anymore in watchmaking? Because they've been bought? Ok 😁
It's 42mm or 40?
42mm
Huh, I was under the impression these had screw links, guess not.
I don't get the importance of screw links... My watches only get sized once so it really doesn't matter..
They should’ve just used their flag logo under 12. 😖
Agreed. The name at 9 doesn’t do it for me at all.
Are they making this in a 38?
Michael Tran Yes and 40mm
They need to change that logo and position it at 12. The name already doesn’t do them any favors by sounding like a fashion brand. Having that logo just sabbotages the great build quality of the watch and kills what could be a nearly perfect watch.
If only they would drop the name at 9 o’clock and have the flag logo at 12 in white, then they’d appeal to so many more on essentially what is a great great watch for the money
Ok, I can see the appeal, but put off by the hands set... overall, really not the result of a great and revolutionary design
they should erase the brand name, put the date on the 6 and color in white the logo at 12
The center link on the bracelet is way too wide
would already have bought one + c65 but that dam fashion logo branding is horrible lol still a hard pass on that alone, cant get over it
I prefer gen 2
Great the previous model will be cheaper pre owned
The fully spelled out brand name is a deal breaker. Simply too much. And ridiculous. Ward would be enough. Sorry, Christopher!
PLEASE GET INTO THE PITFALLS OF THESE WATCHES TOO THEY'RE NOT ALL ROSES
My ChristopherWards SW200 broke the reversing wheels wore out in months its a bad metallurgy issue stay away !!! here is a list of watchs to stay away from :
C.W. C60 Trident Pro Blue SBS
C.W. C60 Trident Pro Orange SKOO
C.W. C7 Rapide BRG Ltd
C.W. C8 Pilot Mk 1
C.W. C8 Pilot Mk 2
C.W. C4 Peregrine
I've owned every generation on Trident and even in multiple variations in some cases and have had zero issues. What did Christopher Ward have to say when you made your warranty claim?
@@AverageBros replaced it but it did take months and crying
@@AverageBros not the watch itself but the SW200 is the issue unless you purchase a Ebauche and message it with different parts or mebey it was a bad parts run ?
@@EricSloferwatchreviews yeah, sounds like a bad run. I have a tons of Sellita powered watches that are running more than fine.
rwg.cc/topic/140880-be-careful-with-the-sw200-based-models/
i have nothing against the branding on the side, but it would look much better with the brand name on the top and their logo on the side, as the logo is basically invisible. Or just have the logo in white on top with the brand name in smaller letter right under it.
the new hands make the watch look sharp and pointy, but not in a good way.
what completely ruined the watch is the removal of the wave pattern. raised patterns is something you (almost every time) have to go to top watches to find. patek, AP etc.
not only did it fit the trident theme perfectly, but it was a sure sign of luxury.
now, it looks cheap. boring and cheap.
and i have to add...
what are they doing? as soon as they start to establish their brand, they make constant little changes that puts their own fanbase off. i was saving up for a trident but now i cant buy it, because *pooof* it turned to shit over night. the way they started fucking with their logo(s) not knowing what to do, was just the beginning.
This is possibly a paid advert for Christopher Ward. Proceed with that knowledge. I have edited this post because I definitely worded it wrong originally. That is completely on me. I am not trying to warn anyone off this review. I apologize to Average Bros.
Really? Damn, where's my check then? Lol
@@AverageBros just a free watch. No check. Even a discount is paid advertising unless your subscribers get the same discount. All watches should be reviewed and returned to said brand. No exception.
@@ryanloken3020 Nope, not that black and white. It's not a paid advertisement unless they're dictating the content, which they're not. I'm free to say I hate it, I just don't. Paid commercial? Come on man, get off the fake outrage bandwagon. All industries offer some type of free samples for high visibility accounts in hopes of future purchase potential, those aren't paid commercials, marketing investment, yes. But far from a commercial. Look at my channel, I've purchased >95% of everything I've featured, do you really think I need a 150th wrist watch? So for my reviews to honest, what I should always pay 100% retail? Get out of here with that garbage. I review what I like and I share my thoughts, I avoid reviewing things I don't personally like, one because I don't want to have pay for it, and two even if I can get it for free, why would I accept it just to bash it?
It's mutually beneficial, I can get a watch I want and would already pay for, if I didn't have a YT channel and 150+ watches in my house, and brands get exposure from a member of their target demographic. I've only done one type of paid sponsorship on my channel and I've been EXTREMELY transparent about it, I'll pull a brand and say this segment has been brought to you by so and so, then I talk about a particular subject, not even in a review form.
@@AverageBros You should pay what everybody else pays. Grey market or used is not retail. I am definitely not outraged about this topic. Any watch, swag or merch for free is a paid advert. It just is. My opinion is that all You Tuber's should review products for likes, views and subscribers only. Product goes back to manufacture afterwards. Any kick back and your opinion is what is garbage because it's swayed. If 95% of your collection was bought with your own money I give u props for that. The other 5% should be gifted to subscribers. This C. Ward was gifted to Take Time with Patrick Marlett, Armand the Watch Guy, Adrain from Bark & Jack and Bruce Williams. Are u trying to tell me u paid for yours? Nobody should take the reviews of this watch from these guys listed above seriously. Class dismissed
@@ryanloken3020 Dude, I never said this wasn't a press sample. Me giving away stuff doesn't make my review points and more or less valid. By your logic, my early reviews were somehow more valid when I had less experience with other models. I give stuff away all the time, should I do follow up videos reporting what I give away to friends, so those reviews will somehow become validated? Invest into building your own YT channel then you can give away whatever you want. I get a bonus at work too, should I give that away to earn your respect?
You're literally trying to warn people of a paid commercial, look at my channel history. I was a Christopher Ward fan way before I had any notable subscriber count. I make a review liking something I personally like, I filmed my own thoughts, with my personal gear, and posted to my channel. Christopher Ward didn't invite me over and film my reaction and edit it into a commercial.