On the Wrist, from off the Cuff: Christopher Ward - C60 Elite 1000, Affordable Tudor Pelagos Rival?
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- On this episode we review what could be the perfect C60 Trident diver. The C60 Elite 1000, is a COSC certified Chronometer, Titanium diver with 1000m of water resistance from London based independent brand Christopher Ward. WIth their release of the Mk3 generation of their popular Trident line, they pretty much set the bar for Divers under $1000, they also have released high concept in-house variations with their C60 Apex Limited Edition clocking in around $4k. The C60 Elite hits a bit of a sweet spot between Ward's standard C60 and the High-end Apex, with the Elite model coming in at $1680 on Ti bracelet. The design aesthetic hits that magical target of being; Bold/Legible, Balanced, and Original. Then you pair with with its standout specs, all for under $2k and you have yourself a diver that competes and nearly bridges two different niches; one, the premium daily beater for high-end collectors and two, the attainable grail watch for us casual enthusiasts. Are their other watches in this space? Sure, but it's a rare air that they exist in and the C60 Elite does a play well in that same demographic. Let me know what you think in the comments below, thanks guys!
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I feel like this watch, 1-2mm thinner without the “Christopher Ward” text and just the double flags logo below the 12 would be absolutely phenomenal.
Day date balances the logo out alot better.
One of the best watch review ever seen! Great job! Big thank You!
Very nice looking watch. If I didn't already have a CW diver, I'd get this one.
Well done review. Nice comparison to the C60 Pro Mark 3. CW knocking it out of the park these days.
Nice review, I am looking forward to seeing CW C60 Trident Elite GMT 1000 as well .
Good Review. Like that you synchronized all the watches to same time.
Really good, detailed review, thanks. I've liked CW watches from the start, especially the Trident, but for me there were always some design features I didn't like. They've addressed most of them apart from the Logo. They've experimented with it but I still don't think they've got it right. Having said that, I think this is the best so far and balances well with the day/date window. Still takes up too much dial real estate for me though. A C65 Dartmouth review please!
I love this watch! Ditch the Christopher Ward logo and I would buy today. Hopefully, somebody from Christopher Ward would actually ready this comment.
Considering it's their brand name and a key defining characteristic of their overall shared brand aesthetic, I don't think that's going to happen, especially considering they already sell out inventory as is. So if the brand name and placement can negate every single other quality of the watch, then you probably don't really want the watch in the first place. The changes they've made have only helped grow their brand to what it is today, so I don't think trying to make the watch look more generic would really help them as a business... but hey, maybe their design language will evolve into something you'd purchase in the future, they are always updating their lines.
I have this with the hybrid strap. I love it. Quality is amazing.
The titanium bracelet you have is no longer available. Disappointed.
I absolutely would love to buy this watch !
I love this watch but as someone who has yet to spend this much money on a watch it's a tough pill to swallow. I have the c60 trident in bronze and would absolutely love to own this watch as well
Nice vid btw!!
I cant get over the brushed effect on the ceramic and how cool it looks. Then the sound of it was insane, doesnt often come through on camera but that sounds satisfying as fuck to use. Another great review. Would love to see a review of the C65 Dartmouth at some point!
After that video , i ordered today with hybrid rubber strap so thanks for the tip.
Now is a big summer sale! 😁
I want to take advantage of the sale... but can't seem to decide between the black or blue one.
@bill spruce
Black!! definitely black!
@@viktorvojtek5487 The black version is Badass! That's the one to go for.
Amazing review and a lot of details. Great job!
I hope they make a steel version with the day/date as a regular release.
Yes and I hope they offer it in 38 and 40 mm.
Stunning watch and a nice refreshing modern look in the current vintage looking climate we’re in right now. Only issue is I have a 6.5” wrist and just don’t know if I can pull this off on the wrist with it’s case diameter and height...
Really enjoyed this review. Great commentary and camera work.
Great review of my next watch:-). What I think is really „nice“ on this watch, among so many other features is the fact, that the notches of the crown are the same like the one on the bezel! That goes for both watches. Fantastic design language!!!
Seems like a lot of watch for the money. 1000m plus very sharp looking.
Actually, titanium is a softer metal than stainless steel which is why it scratches easier. You said it correctly at first, titanium is strongest relative to its weight. Type 2 will scratch easily as anyone who has ever owned a titanium watch knows. This is really a great watch for sure but, just just realize with use, it's going to get scuffed up.
CW makes really nice watches. Wish they made a thinner and smaller (36-39mm) sport watch though.
The C65 Trident Vintage MK II is 38. The regular C60 Trident Diver comes in 38, 40 and 42.
Emaratilfy they make plenty in that size
You’re in business now! CW Sealander Auto 39mm is out!
Thanks for this review. I have been eying this watch for the past few days.
one edit, in your discription of the insert in the bracelet clasp you seem to say that titanium is harder but more brittle. In fact, 316L stainless is harder (between 170 to 350 Brinell hardness units) than grade 2 titanium (150 Brinell hardness units).
This is the kind of watch I think I would love but I would need to put it on my wrist to know for sure.
You say the height difference is negligible...I have a c60 Abyss and c60 elite 1000 (same as your review) and the elite is noticeably higher. For me (at a 6.75in) wrist it doesn't sit quite as nice as the Abyss. That being said it doesn't sit "bad" and I still love wearing it even more than the abyss.
Thank you for the comparison, i recently got the blue on blue hybrid. Now just ordered the bracelet as well, you really helped my decision 👍
Huge fan of CW, and, bought this model as you were revewing it, this is my 3rd CW watch.
Great review wish they would change there logo from the Full Name to something with a couple letters or an Image
CW should be paying you for all the gushing 🤣
From what i heard when a bezel has all the indices all the way around it's considered a ISO certified, if the indices are only at the first 15 min mark it's not allowed to be ISO certified. But it's still a dive watch none the less.
Love my CW. Am so pleased with it. 😊
Nice watch!
Nice video at 2x playback
Beautiful watch!!!
The only problem is the logo of the name C. W. Although many watch fans have written that the logo should go by 12 o'clock they insist on writing it at 9 o'clock !!! This is the only problem that I and other fans do not purchase this company's watches ...... Too bad, the watches are very high quality and beautiful.
They just keep improving. Have the black and white which are great but I think this is going to be added very soon . Titanium when executed well is fantastic..
I was waiting for this review from you-I knew you would get to it before anyone else! Great job and thanks for a great review!! One thing I was curious about was the appearance of the titanium...on video it appears pretty much the same as the steel version. Is that so or is it much darker like I have seen in other titanium watches? Thanks in advance for any helpful insight you can share.
You're correct, the Ti here ends up looking close to SS, just with a warmer hue to it
@@AverageBros
Thanks a lot for your quality video.
I'd like yo know if there is instant day/date change or progressive one ?
Thank you for your answer.
Man, that "black ink" dial looks AMAZING (on both watches).
I actually prefer the simplicity and cheaper price of the C60.
Do you still love yours, now that you've had it/worn it awhile?
Still loving it, have a white dial and blue dial Mk3 that get more wrist time though, since they don't have to compete as directly with my Monta Oceanking
@@AverageBros how do you find this c60 elite compare to the monta oceanking?
@@brandon9911 Oceanking is a better built and finished but the C60 Elite is more feature rich
@@BurntPlaydoh oops, Mk3, fixed ;)
The C60 blows the Monta away, sorry.
So I have been stalking this beast for a while. I own a CW GMT which is my travel watch. One niggle is the bracelet. Please tell me they now use screws instead of push pins and I will buy it immediately. Thanks. Oh and I love the channel!
they still use pin and collar for this model
Honestly the collar pin system is much more reliable than screws. Screws very often strip. The collar system, will not.
Okay, this is something that bothers me very much about people talking about titanium and steel in the watch community. Titanium is NOT harder than steel. At least not generally. Titanium is stronger than steel, yes, but that is not the same thing as hardness at all. Mild steel (steel that is not heat treated) IS softer than titanium, but once it has been heat treated, the vast majority of steel will be harder than titanium. Strength is an engineering sense is a combination of resistance to forces applied trying to break the material, not a measure of the hardness of the material at all.
In the case of 316 stainless, which is the most commonly used type of stainless steel for watches, there is very little in terms of hardness testing done on watches, so I don’t personally know if the titanium used in watches is going to be harder, but making blanket statements that steel is more scratch-prone than titanium is not accurate at all, and in fact most of the time it will be the exact opposite.
So.?.......How is this on par with the Tutor Pelagos?
Misleading clickbait title.
will this be released in a smaller size?
Thank for the Video
As a proper Londoner I always want to correct them when they say CW London. Reading is in Berkshire (a county outside of London) and as far as I know none of the owners are Londoners 😂
Damn those out of towners man haha but they make a great great watch for an insane low price. Love my 40mm c60mk3 👍🏼👍🏼
Hey, thanks for another great video! Question. I'm looking into the C60 Trident but not sure to go with the 38mm or 40mm for my 6.25" wrist. I love the size of my Sinn 556A but a dive watch at 38mm accounting for a dive bezel is something I've not seen before. Will the dial be too small? Should I go up to the 40mm? What are your thoughts? Thanks!
My wrist is 6.75 and I have the 42mm, it looks great.. I would say the 40 mm will be perfect for you, they wear smaller because of the case design and large bezel ⌚
hi, congratulations for the review. Can I ask for the size of the wrist you showed in the video? Thank you very much.
Love the video, I'm planing on buying c60 38mm I'm currently wearing skx 007 but I find it a bit to big. I might be wrong but I think the small one is better on my small wrist. Any one reading this have the same dilemma?
I've always like these watches.
Great looking watch, but I really don’t see the need in 1000m WR, it adds a couple unnecessary MM of thickness to the watch, 99% of consumers won’t be using 600m WR let alone 1000m
I figure 1000m means the watch is built tougher. Most people barely need 50m of WR but it is good to know it could take it.
I own the older version (like the white you show, but the blue one) and I can say, CW is the BEST bang for price in the watches industry, it is the most beautiful luxury dive watch for a fraction of Submariner or other too expansive ones, I think even the Fathoms is less beautiful
Luxury?
Nicer than the Fathoms? 🤔
@@chrisjones6439 look I have an Omega and I get the difference, however in divers watch the CW is at the same league, if you put a Rolex logo on it no one would tell it is a 10 times cheaper of a watch
@@amitfromisrael5006 look....
Look.....
Does your reply mean you don't have an Omega dive watch 🤔
I'm pretty sure watch collectors would easily tell the difference....
There are also other things to consider.....
CW QC at the moment is in the toilet, CS is nowhere near what it was a couple of years ago....
No heritage, sales every other day, CW being forced out.....
The brand is on it's knees....
@@chrisjones6439 I am not aware what CW doing today, I have Omega Aqua Terra as my leading watch, it is amazing indeed, however for summer at the sea I have for 2 years now the CW Trident, the design and looks is of a $5000 watch not of a $500 that is my view on it, look also at the technical data 600m etc...
lol 2:59 before we dive into it lol great pun
Great detailed review! Do brands like CW sponsor you to write these reviews?
No, they just cooperate with loaners
I have a 6.6 inch wrist, would this watch work for me? I wear a suit and tie most of the time. Does the titanium help a lot? The blue is close to my dream watch, im just not sure if my wrist is big enough for it.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend this piece for such a slim wrist and dressed up combo. Casual, sure maybe depending on taste but under a cuff, it would be very over powering
Gotta ask.....
In many of your videos you compare CW with Oris, Omega, Black Bay etc....
Which models of said brands do you own to make a learned comparison?
I own a few Oris and handled Omega and Tudors at meet ups and in boutiques but never have pulled the trigger.
@@AverageBros would love to see your Oris.
Handling in a boutique obviously gives you an objective comparison.....
@@chrisjones6439 check my channel, my Aquis and Big Crown Propilot have popped up a few times. Closest I ever came to pulling the trigger was the Skyfall AT, wish I would've purchased before they made all the updates. I've gone back and forth on the smallet PO but it just ends up being too thick for the diameter. The SMP comes close but it hasn't come together for my aesthetically yet.
@@chrisjones6439 how picky I am with a watch goes up exponentially after the $2500 mark because there are so many great watches with tons of personality under that price point, so when considering paying more, it has to be something that really hits me on multiple levels. I'm okay with cheaper watches having quirks because you can afford to have multiples that play off of each other vs something that needs to be everything for the money.
@@AverageBros funny you say that, been a subscriber for ages.
Only yesterday I revisited your Aquis review..... Lucklustre to say the least.
Mate, you're obviously a CW fan ( I owned 9), and fair play to you.
You ask for comments after your videos, not all are going to agree.
As viewers all we ask is for impartiality.
I do enjoy your vids and will continue to watch 👍
This would put the price to the level of Monta OK and Ginault OR. Time for another VS?
czcams.com/video/29GGT6CwN9Q/video.html
Average Bros saw that already. In that one you said the quality was below the Monta and Ginault but it wasn’t really comparable due to price range. Now that it’s in the same price range, what’s your thoughts?
@@benwong1111 same, it's still a Chris Ward, lol. Just spec'd up. The C60 is a great watch and the increased specs warrant the increased cost. It's more comparable to the Omega PO or Tudor Pelagos, being more focused on high spec/capability vs everyday balance like a Submariner or Seamaster, which the Monta Oceanking and Ginault Oceanrover are directly targeting.
This is a good option if you dont want to pay Tudor Pelagos price
Certainly looks to be good quality
I wish it didn't have the day/date that kills it for me.
second hand value?
Not interested in the second hand value as I will never sell mine.. ⌚
Too bad the company insists on putting the branding at the 9 o’clock. Just looks downright silly. What were they thinking?
I happen to like it.
Anybody else miss the old cathedral/onion hands? The new hour hand seems really jarring to me for some reason
Hi, how is the bezel action compare to Tudor Pelagos?
Sorry, its been a while since I last handled a Pela, so it'd be tough to do a direct comparison off of memory. Tudor typically get bezel action right on their moder watches and CW got this one right as well, so that'd be the most I could add definitely, thanks.
@@AverageBros You mislead everyone by not answering if it was comparable to the Tudor, as you suggested you would in the title. Dick.
How do you rank this watch as a daily driver for the office, etc?
It would work fine as long as you're into divers or tool watches in general
Average Bros I have to confess that I already own the watch. It’s large and doesn’t look right with a suit. I use it for scuba and weekend wear, but will wear it to my office when I’m just in a polo and slacks.
@@LCRider13 why doesn’t it look right with a suit? I would wear with a suit.
@@LuisGonzalez-gl4wc It is a thick watch and bulky.
@@LCRider13 You are right it is thick watch by its specs. You probably would be better served with a Glycine combat sub, or a Mido ocean star titanium they are are thinner. Too bad they aren’t selling the C60 600 in titanium. I have the Steinhart 500 gmt titanium and it wears pretty well.
Like the watch, but you didn't hack the crown.
Annoyed that their in house version of this was limited run.
there's not as much of a demand for the premium that comes with the in-house variation
@@AverageBros How much was the premium?
is this stainless or titanium?
titanium
Average Bros yo why does it look like stainless steel titanium is often grey
@@sheldonsplace4511 I have just had mine delivered, and it isn't quite the colour of stainless. Its Grade 2 titanium Its more common for watches to be Grade 5 which is an alloy and the grey colour
The text logo on the dial is awful, looks like a business card. I hate it.
Could not agree more..
Not sure why they needed to write a novel on the dial.
Seems minor
I’d buy it if it was not there
Man, that bezel action....Viewer discretion is advised!
Faked out again. Clicked link. No vid. Just a “Premier Notice.” Cool, just like the Oscars. I’ll look forward to more waiting. Just what I need right now.
Had a few Quartz CW watches 6-7 years ago. They were crap.rubber bands broke one just stopped running etc. Gave me them away, even customer service was not much help. Fast forward to this.
Wow..... Not the same old stuff. I am really gonna look at this company again seriously. This piece is a homerun. I am glad to see it.
Who cares about acoustics of bezel turn? Are you turning that for pleasure on daily basis? It’s kind of weird...