We Need to Talk About TONEX ONE (Again)
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I have guitar tone gear videos fatigue. We can get great tones from so many different pieces of gear if we just put in the time to learn how. That's been my approach, and it's working on my HX Stomp. I don't feel like I'm missing out on any tones.
It's important to remember that all this gear stuff is 95% about keeping it fun for the player. If you want to get good, play more, practice ear training, or use promo code jnc40 to get you some video lessons 😂😂
Agreed, stopped watching gear oriented channels for the most part. Got an Axe FX III and called it a day. No regret and now skimming the guitar collection to what I really play.
You’re amazing 🥹
Yep, I got a Kemper many years ago and it feels like the search for tone is over since. Honestly, I just need to have more reasons to play guitar, like having a band eventually gigging, etc.
@@BZHShooter- I was planning on getting an Axe Fx III, but then the bank I was casing upgraded their security measures, the heist was off, and I'm still stuck with my Pod Go....
I've ordered a Tonex One and I'm cry excited for it, but not because I care about legendary amps. I'm excited because it will free up enough DSP on my HX Stomp that I'll finally be able to use Poly Pitch. My Whammy DT is currently my 3rd most used pedal and inspires me no end but it's just so damn big!
As much as I enjoy and appreciate the product reviews, more importantly I enjoy your tasteful playing John ! 🙏
John, that is one of the most beautiful melodic pieces that I've ever heard you perfom. Wonderful stuff! ❤
I had a Boss IR2 but sold it after 2 months. I didn’t really get on with the inbuilt amps even with my own IRs loaded. I’m having so much more fun with the FREE tonex app. I don’t really need the Tonex One as I use my laptop connected to my pedal board 😊
The key is to KEEP IT SIMPLE and not get bogged down buying bundles and everything else under the sun. Paralysis by options is a real thing!
Thanks for this video! Glad to have watched this John. Really looking forward to the IR-2 followup.
Great playing as always John! Thank you so much!!! :) Would love to see a review of yours about the Strandberg Boden Essential!
Amalgam Audio just introduced an excellent set of vintage amp captures (DI and some IRs too) hand selected for the TONEX ONE. Highly recommended if you want superb tones!
Beautiful playing and into as usual. Great to see you on the Five Watt World / Line 6 video too. All the best and keep at it!
That intro tune (and tone) is amazing! Great job! I have the full size Tonex and I love it. There are just so many great captures out there that I have immediately meshed with vs. struggling to find sounds I love with other platforms. I'm not sure if I really need the smaller version but it's priced right and I'm sure will sell like crazy!
It took a while to get good at capturing my own stuff. Now I can bring my Mesa Lonestar Special with my preferred setup with me to gigs. Also, all my favorite UAFX rigs and everything else. Yes it’s a chore to get them captured but the results are amazing. Yea the Dumble and Mesa packs are great but not as great as mine.
Have you shared it?
Would love to have some recordings. I really enjoy your playing, phrasing and riffs.
Right, the option to work in-the-box and then take that tone on the road is what lured me to Line 6, and now I'm dipping into ToneX (via native) for the same reason, looking at it as a way to free up HX Stomp XL DSP or to use with my HX Effects. -Tom
I’ve e ordered one. I use the ToneX software already and it’ll be great to have some of the sounds on my board. I also like that you load pedals on it and use it as an extra drive pedal. The user interface looks really easy to grasp too. Just waiting to see how long I’ll have to wait for stock to come in. I can see my board going down to just the BossBD-2, HX Stomp and the ToneX One.. For the price I think it looks a no brained.
Thank you John. Can you create a signal chain of IK Media pedals + amp captures...and save it to the pedal?? Use it in a Fractal FM9 loop?
Beautiful playing
I’m on pre-order for a tonex one, thought the first one was comically large, I think this one is comically small, but the price is right, so in I go.
For me it's just a cool tiny thing to play around with. I have an HX Stomp but wanted to try out some tonex sounds as well because my mate has one and I think the tones sound a bit more like a real amp. Now I can test around with it in the effects loop of the HX Stomp and it's a cool thing to carry around even for practice without a PC or Laptop anywhere you like. Can't wait to test it out. Love this honest and down to earth approach of yours for this review. Cheers!
The headphone part was my hesitation - definitely getting one now 🔥
How do you use it together with other effect pedals like delay and chorus?
I don't always catch the significance of something like stereo output on a pedal such as this, so I appreciate your incite into the headphone usage. This clearly shows how it might be a more versatile solution to a Boss Go. This seems to have more versatility as a pedal, given the Go is pretty much just a mobile modeled amp solution.
Question: do you feel like it should feature delay and chorus? Then it would be gig-ready for real?
I just ordered one, I am an FM9 user. Just looking forward to throwing this in the loop and seeing how it compares, if the AMPs are at least as good, then i'm hoping the lack of AMP/Cab on the FM9 will free up a little more DSP for more Plex Delay settings :)
I think that's a great way of looking at it
I don’t think you can edit the captures though can you?
I just recently got the IR-2 and am now intrigued to find out how the TONEX One stacks up against it, looking forward to your thoughts!
I'm curious how this pedal fairs in a live setting? I would like to use it live. Could you show it off live at some point?
What guitar is that? I love the yellow blonde colour
I can figure out the tonex software. It’s just like a confusing mix of covers tones. Search bar doesn’t seem to work for amps I’m after. I can’t seem to figure out where Amplitube 5 ends and Tonex begins?
With Kemper liquid profiling the urgument that the Gain and EQ makes the profile deviate does not really apply anymore. With the generic tonestack I agree
Hey John, how does the Tonex One “feel” when playing it compared to other digital products and then compared to actual amps and analog products with zero latency? P.S… I ordered one last week through IK because of your last video hopefully u’ll get a commission.
Reminds me of the “clicker” toys, we used to have way back (yeah, long before your time John). Used to drive our mothers up the wall.
I bought the Tonex One to get amps that aren’t offered in the Helix. If I really like it, I will most likely sell it and upgrade to the big daddy Tonex. Midi control is essential for anything more than 2 amp sounds. Thanks for your thoughts, John.
Tonex doesn’t replace Helix, though? It’s for captures and doesn’t have models.
I ordered one from Amazon using points. Looking forward to receiving it.
Can i connect my iPhone via usb and play a banking track to jam along
Your playing/composition on the intro piece of music was magnificent. 👋
I think the Kemper Player does the ToneX ONE coupled with HFX or HX Stomp in one unit.
But Kemper marketing sucks big time, they don't send out free units to CZcamsrs to do positive reviews.
Solid product. I do tend to prefer third party captures or ones I've made to IK's captures. Amalgam Audio has some amazing stuff. Would love to see delay added to its bigger brother.
When I get my TONEX ONE I will feed it into a trusty old Zoom G3X (for FX only, not amp/cab) as my band practice rig. TONEX ONE could also be a standalone backup for live gigs if my Helix goes down and easily fits into a pocket on my Helix backpack. I think the included software for use in your DAW is huge. I use Helix Native at home instead of the Helix floor unit and would like the extra options the IK stuff would provide.
it would be perfect for me to replace the huge tonex but the absence of midi is a bummer. i have the tonex in the effects loop of the hx stomp and 20 amps would be perfect if i can switch it via midi. the normal tonex is huge in comparison
They should add some delays and chorus to Tonex. I like the plate reverb the others not so much.
I was dead set on an IR-2 until this came out. Now I keep waffling back and forth between the two. Guess I don't need the effects loop when I'm just plugging into an interface. Your vids are helpful for us non-pros as well. Thanks!
One big plus with the IR-2 other than the loop is that it can be battery powered which is good if you need to use it as a quick setup backup at a gig or similar.
John thanks for the comments great stuff on this hyped up gear from ToneX. You started to go down the road with the "pay to play" with models that are artist based models. From my perspective if its a great capture of an artist's real amp rig, I don't mind paying a little extra. I am not a capture guy myself, but I would definitely use a very good preset capture from their library.
If I already have ToneX Max can I load any of the premium profiles on this?
I'm planning on selling my Dream 65 and get this as the USB audio Interface is super useful and something UA could have implemented on the Dream 65 and didn't just because of greed
Yes you can to the best of my understanding.
Or just get a decent audio interface anyways
@@florisvanlingen I already have a great audio interface, the point is that at the price point of the Dream 65 they could have included the audio interface as it already has the USB port, IK multimedia did it at the price of ToneX One, also, for portability a small pedal that is also an audio interface is great for travel, don't assume I don't have an audio interface
@@Alex_Martz My guess is that most people are not looking for an audio interface in the Dream 65 and that's why they did not add that feature, not because of UA being greedy. If anything I think most would rather have UA add the feature of MIDI to the USB port instead.
If you have Max, you have access to that entire suite for any Tonex products. Just drag and drop
I was never able to get my toe next to sound good through any power amp. The feel was just different. I do, however, like it in my DAW.
my next purchase 100%. it's a no brainer
As much as I love Boss stuff and would have liked to snag the IR-2 I feel like this blows it out of the water. Anyone see any reasonable advantage the IR-2 has over the Tonex One?
Battery power and effect loop.. It depends on which features you think is most important.
I am going to try with a Katana to see if the tone models are better and my Vox MV50s and my Laney
I am not sure its a paid model per say. You can get anyone's uploads free, you just have to pay for any prolevel captures that they or any 3rd party has done that wants to sale them. I have tons of captures, I did pay for one just to see if it were any better than some of the free ones I got.
Was it better?
Give it up John
I just wish it had midi so you could have more than 2 presets to call up via a midi controller.
Having an effects loop and some ability to add switches would be enough for me to use this all by itself for most gigs.
For those just interested in above-chest-level hand flailing, the video a proper starts at 5:00
We are in that ZEN drive State these days, it sounds really Good, especially in the Quick Dialing Hands of an Expert, Like our Modelling Wizard JNC.
I absolutely enjoy the IK/Boogie pack and The Studio Rats Matchless pack is killer as well.
are these Dumble tones 4 free?
10:48 Have you ever tried a UA OX Box?
I would buy this immediatley if I could scroll through the 20 stored tones without using the editor. Being able to have only 2 on hand without hooking up a computer is what would make me prefer saving up for the full size model. Hopefully there is a way in the future of doinf this then for sure I would buy this
You can 👍
with a few other pedals,
the TX1 is all the modelling most players could actually need.
...great tones and utterly simple, very cost friendly.
Very interesting ... hmmmm .... you're making me think ....
Hopefully they offer them in a stand alone price point without the software. Buy the first one with the software and then hopefully you can buy a second, third, forth etc at a lower price point. Then you have a ton of flexibility, amp / cab in one or boost, delay on another, reverb on another and any other effect on others.Then combine with the IR-2 and you have a very high level modeling system. The IR-2 is and will more than likely be the heart of my rig. In 35 years of playing guitar, the IR-2 for me is the single best piece of gear Ive ever bought. I have the Tone X one on order and Ill more than likely get more especially if they can offer additional units without software cost.
I think this is unlikely to be honest, as for example the tonex software is free of charge anyway, at least on ios it is. Even on the free package you get access to tonenet.
@@pyropedals5553 The software you get with the the ToneX One is not the free software. They give you both ToneX SE and AmpliTube 5 SE ($200 value) So yeah they need to offer it with out the software and charge less for it.
@@pyropedals5553 So the point is reguardless of the free software that is available. You are still paying for software that comes with the Tone X One.
@@Thrive-Off-Grid I think it depends on the way you look at it, if the software is already available for free, then you are paying for the hardware of the pedal? Anyway I can highly recommend trying the ios version of tonex, if you use the AUM app you can then chain multiple tonexs together doing exactly as you suggest, multiple drives, boosts , amps whatever, and you can use many other plug ins for your effects. If you can't live without footswitches then you can also use midi switching in AUM.
@@pyropedals5553 Dude the Software that comes with is not free versions. requagless if you buy the Tone X or buy it directly form the site its $200 bucks its noit FREE. There are other version that are free but its not the same software
I’m surprised how no one has mentioned that this could extent the longevity of the hx units, as amp profiling might be one of the only features they are lacking, and with a 180$ unit that’s now a thing for all of us line 6 users.
Yeah what is the deal with that plate reverb? Put aside how awesome tonex is for a moment. That plate reverb is really a gem.
I’m going to finally purchase a HX stomp when they lower the $$ back down
"IK called and told me what I missed..."
If they ever add even a simple delay to ToneX it could easily be an AIO for a lot of folks.
The usb charge feature is really giving me a hard time not buying this.
It can fucking do A LOT with a smartphone powering it.
sounds better than the modellers imho
NAM makes Tonex obsolete when only using my computer. Better tones IMO and totally free. NAM pedals are on the way starting with Dime Head unit, releasing soon.
Do we have any idea on price?
Only thing left is a midi but man great pedal
I have the bigger Tonex pedal and have gotten the best tones of it than any other device I've ever owned that didnt have a tube inside. The app is a frustrating mess, however.
There are thousands upon thousands of great free profiles
Hard to find them on the dodgy tonex platform though, isn’t it? I had access via Amplitube and it was very confusing, slow and it wasn’t clear how you got Amplitube tones on to it/whether you were editing tonex tones or Amplitube.
Can you tweak the sound of the amp in the profiles?
If you can find one amongst the weird tone net software. It’s so bad lol
I’d consider getting it to access the Dumble tones, and then running it into my HX Stomp. But the confusing situation with software is a turnoff. I don’t want to pay $179 for the pedal plus $200 for software.
The basic software is included and usable until you want the mac daddy stuff.
Hint: upgrade your software during the holidays for a generous upgrade price.
The different Tonex versions really only give you access to the IK proprietary stuff, and not even the good stuff like the Mesa captures. The IK captures really aren't that great. In other words, the software edition wont matter to 90% of people.
@caseylockwood5512 You only need access to ToneNet. There’s over 22,000 captures on there. You don’t need everything that IK offers. Im sure then you’ll say “nay” or the captures suck or whatever. And that’s ok too.
Actually, I prefer the smaller vendors variety of professional captures. I can manage 20 bucks for incredible Tone King Imperial captures.
I actually only like just few capture from IK most of good stuff are uploaded by people and it’s for free and you have like 10 slots for free downloads. More than enough..
Big difference in price and you get everything with Fractal at a price and a lot you dont need. Small price buy what you want is a good model for people who only want some things. More like UA plugins.😄
Clean, Dirt and a boost/drive pedal. Thats all I need I don't need effects
I bought one, its good but does not wow me.
I insist on my right to make weird choices!
No we don't. "Buy analog man" ;-)
Oh please……..not again……
Does your mom force you to watch these vids?
@@paulschlachter4313 My Mom died about 4 years ago….but thanks for asking….
@@nuendo2496boo hoo lots of us have parents that have died, your still not required to watch
@@nuendo2496 Sorry for your loss, but you get the point, right?
@@paulschlachter4313 uh….I guess there is no tone in a comment…..I was trying to be funny…..or at least light….but you got a little aggressive…
noise gate
I don’t want to talk about Tonex again, and you can’t make me.
😂
Err, you just did!
@@martynridley3671 Damn!
booooooring