In-Depth Look: NAM player Hardware and Software Walkthrough

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  • čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
  • +++ Pre-sale now at dimehead.de +++
    We officially introduce the NAM player and give a detailed tour through the connectors, the hardware and software user interface, and the features of the device.
    NAM stands for neural amp modeler, which is an open standard for modeling amplifiers in super high quality. The NAM player brings this technology into a compact and durable device, ready for the stage. It supports nano, feather, lite, and standard models. You additionally have a convolution reverb of up to 60 seconds, an equalizer, a noise gate, and a speaker impulse response. Even with all features enabled, the latency is below 0.5ms.
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Komentáře • 131

  • @jconner3891
    @jconner3891 Před měsícem +18

    I just bought a fm3 a month ago. Never stopped me before. I buy this as well. Screw practicing guitar. I love gear. ❤

  • @tiomkinnyborg2289
    @tiomkinnyborg2289 Před měsícem +22

    The long press to delete should bring up a dialogue box with a choice to cancel or delete. Otherwise a good beginning.

    • @CTBlaze
      @CTBlaze Před měsícem +1

      good one, hopefully also with the factory reset😊

    • @DoomPlugs
      @DoomPlugs Před 27 dny +1

      Just seen latest facebook post and that's fixed and included now.

  • @TudorAdrian
    @TudorAdrian Před měsícem +10

    Noise gate threshold being defined globally could come with its own issues if you have patches for hi-gain rhythm and leads. Dialing in the gate for the chugs can end up cutting the sustain on the leads (same as for cleans / EoB tones).

  • @TheNino37
    @TheNino37 Před měsícem +3

    I'm a big fan of all the new devices hitting the market that move the great new software onto the stage for live performance.

  • @fuzzaldryn9626
    @fuzzaldryn9626 Před 15 dny +1

    Currently testing a DIMEHEAD NAM player. Man, the low latency of this thing is just stunning. Factory captures are also pretty, pretty nice. Espescially considering how many mediocre captures you can find on Tonehunt sometimes.

  • @RafaelNunes-sd3sj
    @RafaelNunes-sd3sj Před měsícem +6

    Very nice !! Congratulations👍

  • @MaxPowersTastyTones
    @MaxPowersTastyTones Před měsícem +5

    Looks dope so far! I‘m really curious how this will sound! I‘d love to demo one sometime! ❤

  • @TurquoiseArmies
    @TurquoiseArmies Před 8 dny +1

    Does it support 500ms IR’s. I love some real room mic IR’s mixed in… I guess the convolution reverb loader would handle those if you crank the mix to 100%. Great job guys!

  • @steffenberg4480
    @steffenberg4480 Před měsícem +1

    Will it be possible to add 2 NAM captures in the Signal chain? One Amp capture + Drive capture? Thanks

  • @Bigfamilyhomestead
    @Bigfamilyhomestead Před měsícem +14

    A.I. voice and no audio examples?

    • @fuzzaldryn9626
      @fuzzaldryn9626 Před měsícem +1

      czcams.com/video/_I78ylFlthA/video.html&ab_channel=DIMEHEAD

    • @aviolentpurple9925
      @aviolentpurple9925 Před měsícem +1

      I think dime head is probably a crappy Chinese company

    • @fuzzaldryn9626
      @fuzzaldryn9626 Před měsícem +1

      @@aviolentpurple9925 Nope. Two Guys from north Germany, who started developing this idea in their free time while full-time working as software developers and electronic engineers for different companies.

    • @DoomPlugs
      @DoomPlugs Před měsícem +1

      @@aviolentpurple9925 Incorrect. Dimehead are based in Germany.

    • @aviolentpurple9925
      @aviolentpurple9925 Před měsícem

      Ah okay thanks!!!

  • @thecaveofthedead
    @thecaveofthedead Před měsícem +3

    Superb work.

  • @PippPriss
    @PippPriss Před měsícem +4

    This seems like an incredibly well thought-out product. As a big time NAM-fan and one of the "OG" adopters, short before it blew up: if there is any chance for a collaboration on presenting the product on my channel, I would be incredibly honored to put this device through it's paces!
    You have made all the things better which the ToneX has failed to do so - congratulations already on this astonishing product.

    • @CTBlaze
      @CTBlaze Před měsícem +1

      hey man, good to hear - I expected nothing else from the Brainiac behind the NAM Player pedal 🤩
      Would you care to highlight a few points where the ToneX is inferior, in your view/experience?🙏

    • @Sperzel
      @Sperzel Před měsícem

      Except add an fx loop, that would have really killed the Tonex imo

  • @CTBlaze
    @CTBlaze Před měsícem +2

    This is one of the greatest inventions/developments in the domain of guitar/bass pedals from Germany in the last couple of years. Idea, Circuit Design, Parts Choice, Enclosure & UI design, DSP programming and much more, all done locally by bright Northern Lights in Germany, I am in awe, seriously. Ordered one right away!🤩👍

  • @notalkguitarampplug-insrev784
    @notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 Před měsícem +5

    Wow they managed to put the DSP power of a gaming PC into a pedal to run the FULL NAM tech…!!
    And with imperceptible latency at 0,5ms (it’s like the time sound out to travel 17 centimeters..!!!)
    It’s less latency than any Mac/PC with a 2k$ sound interface.
    What a great time to be alive❤❤❤❤

    • @guitartoneSA
      @guitartoneSA Před měsícem +2

      No balanced stereo output to FOH.

    • @CTBlaze
      @CTBlaze Před měsícem

      ​@@guitartoneSAwhy stereo? for the built-in effects? that's luxury 😜 (and would need a different design in space and circuitry I reckon). Despite the huge screen, it's made to be as compact as you can with the parts and I/O needed

  • @ryanhalliwell6671
    @ryanhalliwell6671 Před měsícem +3

    Holy shit! I knew this was coming

  •  Před 19 dny

    Is there a plan to include a boost state on second press of a selected preset? That's a good feature to have.
    Ideally, it would comprise a change in all parameters needed (gain, effects/mix, volume, etc.)

  • @nj1255
    @nj1255 Před měsícem +1

    Looks great! Pretty straightforward and utilitarian, which is how I like my pedals. €200 more than the ToneX pedal, but the higher quality captures and more features definitely makes up for the difference in price.

    • @fuzzaldryn9626
      @fuzzaldryn9626 Před měsícem

      ... Especially if you consider in order to play proper good quality nam models as of now you still need a good audio interface plus a rather capable PC and yet, the performance (especially the latency) wouldn't be equally good.

  • @akaerik1
    @akaerik1 Před měsícem +3

    🤯😳🤩😍 want this yesterday

  • @moroboshidan7960
    @moroboshidan7960 Před měsícem +2

    Finally somebody did it. The latency is 0.5ms even with standard models?

  • @HanhaloArt
    @HanhaloArt Před měsícem +2

    fx loop to use with other analog gear would be such a benefit

  • @nebroTtfeoH
    @nebroTtfeoH Před měsícem +1

    Looks very interesting. What’s the innovation in comparison to a MOD Dwarf? I only see it a bit more guitarist focused with certain knobs to directly adjust the typical settings.
    But the MOD Dwarf seems to have much more sound capabilities with all the effects and wiring options. Or am I missing something??

    • @DoomPlugs
      @DoomPlugs Před měsícem +2

      The Mod Dwarf doesn't have enough CPU power to load any standard architecture NAM models. So, if you want something to load standard NAM models (the vast majority of models on Tonehunt), NAM Player is the only option in a hardware pedal. The idea is to do that job perfectly, without any struggles, which means a 10x more powerful CPU is requited. Also, additional features such as loading Cab IRs, Reverb IRs, a delay, other FX options are planned.

  • @dylanjastle
    @dylanjastle Před měsícem +2

    This thing is awesome

  • @cancion5791
    @cancion5791 Před 22 dny +1

    Does it have ambient reverb, like shimmer type, that would be nice, also can it do snapshots, like 4 snapshots per preset/song that also be useful

    • @CTBlaze
      @CTBlaze Před 13 dny

      you can load ANY Reverb IR into the Convolver part

  • @Mr_Bollie
    @Mr_Bollie Před měsícem +2

    Awesome! Ordered one, as so far only the NAM VST is really able to satisfyingly reproduce my Friedman Smallbox 50. All the other current solutions kinda fail. So I'm expecting great from this! Can you tell us what kind of processor you are using? It must be some beefy hardware.

    • @fuzzaldryn9626
      @fuzzaldryn9626 Před 27 dny

      You would be surprised.. but nope, no beefy hardware. Just think about it: less than 500mA current draw. ;-) Made possible by some clever and well thought code optimizations, which is also partly why this thing comes with this initial "hefty" price tag. It's not like they just took the open source NAM as it is and simply build some hardware. It's meticulous software optimizations AND hardware development (which could be fairly called the easier part of this product).

    • @Mr_Bollie
      @Mr_Bollie Před 27 dny

      @@fuzzaldryn9626 The used Cortex A72 is actually almost a decade old. So I wonder what they did to the Wavenet libs to make them run efficiently on that platform. ;)

    • @fuzzaldryn9626
      @fuzzaldryn9626 Před 25 dny

      ​@@Mr_Bollie... Well, that's the secret coding sauce. ;)

    • @Mr_Bollie
      @Mr_Bollie Před 24 dny

      @@fuzzaldryn9626 Not a fan of "secret sauce", when it comes to base a product on open source software. It should be a give and take, so it would be nice to see any optimizations be shared back with the community. Perhaps that has been happening already, dunno. :)

    • @DanteS-119
      @DanteS-119 Před 11 dny

      Yeah, it’s against the license to hide the software changes to NAM

  • @rtchau4566
    @rtchau4566 Před 24 dny

    What UI framework/kit does this use? I'm doing some embedded stuff and I'm hunting for a decent UI kit with menu heirarchy etc...

    • @dimehead
      @dimehead  Před 24 dny

      We tried many UI frameworks. Most of them are unusable, especially for LCDs. Eventually we developed our own :)

    • @rtchau4566
      @rtchau4566 Před 19 dny

      @@dimehead It looks super nice. What resolution is the LCD? I don't suppose you're open-sourcing the UI framework? :D

  • @faben70
    @faben70 Před 27 dny

    That's really a good product, but for the price I would have expected some more features; 2 model slots in series (so to be able to load a pedal model and an amp model), and a dual IR with stereo output and pan for each one of the 2 impulses. 1ms latency would still be great if 2 models in series require more latency. Wouldn't mind about reverb, although it's useful - and what's the point of a mono reverb by the way?

  • @XChristianNoirX
    @XChristianNoirX Před měsícem

    The one thing that's gotten me not to the pull the trigger on any sort of profiling pedal yet is that none have Spdif. The reason is that I integrate the Kemper with the Fractal stuff via spdif to drop the Kemper in as an FX block to add profiling to the Fractal stuff. The large Kemper has spdif but the profile player does not. The ToneX pedals don't have it either, and neither does this. I suppose someone could have a solution where the USB plug could put out USB audio somehow to some sort of converter to SPDIF. It would also have to run at 24bit 48k to work with Fractal.
    My Fracta/Kemper spdif setup has been working great, but it's not portable enough anymore. I can't lug a big rack around these days. However, the benefits are great. The Fractal has better converter sonics or whatever, which make the Kemper sound better. Mainly, I've become totally dependent on my Fractal for FX because I can't duplicate them with any other device (believe me, I've spent $1000's trying, so it's non-negotiable for me at this point. :/
    I could patch a "profile player" into a Fractal via audio cables, but that will introduce more conversion steps and latency, while eating up I/O. I also do use the 4-cable method already, so it becomes a bigger problem.

  • @nicolasrivera5310
    @nicolasrivera5310 Před měsícem +3

    WoW!!!!!!

  • @digitalchris6681
    @digitalchris6681 Před měsícem

    Interesting. But for me to buy, the price would need to similar to the Tonex pedal which costs quite a lot less than this.

  • @Bilsuburbians
    @Bilsuburbians Před měsícem +1

    Very nice. But the UI kinda old like kemper. Im interested in the long run

  • @paulbradshawguitar
    @paulbradshawguitar Před měsícem +3

    very interesting, Stereo outputs would be incredible , I/O makes quite a difference
    if it's a question of space constraints moving connections to accommodate for stereo output could be an idea (e.g midi + headphone out on the side of the unit), or otherwise 2x Line outputs (like other modellers have, is ok)
    it might be an idea to have the rotary knobs do different things on different pages
    so instead of them being assigned to one thing , depending on the page that's selected they can also be used to quickly change parameters
    (for example delay selected, knobs 1-3 change mix/time/feedback )
    that way you get more usage out of the knobs instead of them being solely assigned to volume/bass/middle/treble for example,
    having knobs that are assignable from the main page (so for example if you always like to tweak delay mix from the first screen or another parameter)
    modifiers are otherwise always fun =) (LFOs etc..) , happy to give more feedback if you like

    • @fuzzaldryn9626
      @fuzzaldryn9626 Před měsícem +1

      Regarding the lack of stereo output: It appears that this pedal is primarily tailored to suit the needs of regular gigging guitar or bass players, who probably don't rely on complex stereo setups during live shows. If you're seeking sophisticated multi-routing in a studio environment, there are already plenty of other software options available. Sure, those still don't have the low latency we have here.

    • @paulbradshawguitar
      @paulbradshawguitar Před měsícem +3

      @@fuzzaldryn9626 i get that, it's to have those options should that be a possibility,
      having a single amp profile with stereo effects (headphone users will hear the difference or if you have the option of going out in stereo)
      there are other ways of course of achieving this, but if the option/development is there why not explore
      i'd perhaps otherwise suggest some kind of FX loop then to incorporate other effects

    • @fuzzaldryn9626
      @fuzzaldryn9626 Před měsícem +2

      @@paulbradshawguitar It's the company's first real market product. Let's see, what further products for users with a different user profile they will come up with. ;-) I personally would love to have a power amp to be already implemented instead of the line out. Because that would be the ultimate flexible and transportable gigging machine for me.

    • @paulbradshawguitar
      @paulbradshawguitar Před měsícem +2

      @@fuzzaldryn9626 for sure, interested to see how this develops
      for me, a power amp would add extra weight/mass and cost, and a lot of gigging guitarists (myself included here) tend to use IEMs , silent stage or already have a power amp + cab combo, or some people just use FRFR style speakers, the extra cost is the biggest concern i think

    • @fuzzaldryn9626
      @fuzzaldryn9626 Před měsícem +1

      @@paulbradshawguitar don't think a modern class d amp would add much weight or costs. These things are nowadays pretty efficient and cheap (and surprisingly good sounding IMHO). For me it definitely would add practicality, as I'm just an average hobbiest jumping from rehearsal room jam session to rehearsal room jam session, where mostly there isn't much more available than a spare speaker cab. So yeah, completely different profile in my case I guess. :D

  • @marceloSDMF
    @marceloSDMF Před 10 dny

    Are you guys shipping to brazil?

  • @jdubbs9655
    @jdubbs9655 Před měsícem

    So, I already own a Quad Cortex. Am I missing something? How would this offering be more advantageous? 🤔

    • @yargnad
      @yargnad Před měsícem +1

      If you already own a Quad Cortex, this isn't for you.

    • @shorerocks
      @shorerocks Před měsícem

      I have a Kemper for years. Super happy. Still interested. Just don't tell my wife.

    • @TheRecurrence
      @TheRecurrence Před měsícem

      NAM generally edges out NSP. So if you have infinite money you may want this as well :)

  • @swmorgan515
    @swmorgan515 Před měsícem

    Can it use captures made with Tonocracy?

    • @DoomPlugs
      @DoomPlugs Před měsícem

      Tonocracy is compatible with NAM models, but it has it's own separate capturing system/format and those aren't NAM files... they are a different proprietary format which means it isn't possible to use them in the NAM player pedal.

  • @truthtorpedo99
    @truthtorpedo99 Před měsícem +1

    I loved the bit where you showed how it sounds by playing guitar using some example models

    • @dimehead
      @dimehead  Před měsícem +3

      czcams.com/video/_TKv1vsNduY/video.html

  • @Adams456
    @Adams456 Před měsícem

    What about the hardware?

  • @JohnWiku
    @JohnWiku Před měsícem +1

    It's great that this already exists.
    I'd buy one today if the price was closer to the tonex pedal. This is way too expensive as it stands.

    • @CarcPazu
      @CarcPazu Před měsícem +1

      With the release of the Tonex One pedal at $180, I don't think they can match that price.

    • @ObtuseRhombus
      @ObtuseRhombus Před měsícem

      ​@@CarcPazu
      The ToneX One just upset everything. It's too good at that price point, especially when you factor in size and weight. Buy 2, leave them under the pedalboard. Set & Forget.

    • @CarcPazu
      @CarcPazu Před měsícem +1

      @@ObtuseRhombus Yes exactly, I actually bought two full size Tonex pedals to run them in stereo with a TC MIMIQ Doubler. Runs great but two of them takes so much place on my desk. Those tiny Tonex One are perfect. I root for that NAM player though, I hope it will work well and that people will embrace it, they'd be a great addition to this ecosystem.

    • @ObtuseRhombus
      @ObtuseRhombus Před měsícem

      @CarcPazu Agreed! I am all for NAM and it having a physical home on a pedalboard. I think it has amazing opportunities for adaptation into a small format pedal. I can't wait to see what the open source community does over the next couple years!

    • @CarcPazu
      @CarcPazu Před měsícem

      @@ObtuseRhombus First order of things should be to have a proper installer like any other software, maybe it's already solved but last time I checked you had to compile something or whatever geeks do with their github gizmo thing… I never tried because of that.

  • @FrederickCouch
    @FrederickCouch Před měsícem +2

    When is this puppy coming on the market?

    • @DoomPlugs
      @DoomPlugs Před měsícem

      Sooon!

    • @rosthariton7930
      @rosthariton7930 Před měsícem

      ​@@DoomPlugsNeural DSP loves this Word as well.

    • @DoomPlugs
      @DoomPlugs Před měsícem

      @@rosthariton7930 - yep, it has become a meme over the years. Most people reference it as a joke nowadays (including me).

    • @DoomPlugs
      @DoomPlugs Před měsícem +1

      Yesterday! pre-orders are live =)

  • @lankududniteshift
    @lankududniteshift Před měsícem

    Maybe in the next update, the Noise Gate threshold could be saved with different threshold level (or even switched off) per preset instead of globally. This is really a very promising product but as it is (same goes with the Tonex & Tonex One), it's not for me. Don't get me wrong, like i said this is a really promising product, but for me personally, i would like to have a stereo capable outputs (& even sweeter if it has separate stereo DI outputs with the Cab sim switched ON, while the 1/4" stereo outputs, having switchable Cab sim ON or Off)..... also a stereo effects loop built in. Other than that, i am very sure this product will be great for many others. Again, these are just my personal preference.

  • @Scarlet_Host_Guitars
    @Scarlet_Host_Guitars Před měsícem +1

    When can we buy this?

    • @dimehead
      @dimehead  Před měsícem

      you can pre-order now ;-)

  • @cuanyu
    @cuanyu Před měsícem

    What is the latency

    • @dimehead
      @dimehead  Před měsícem +2

      0.5ms - take a look at our homepage at dimehead.de for more details. :)

  • @user-xl8qs4gb2j
    @user-xl8qs4gb2j Před 13 dny

    at that cost, touch screen would have been the go

  • @joshuaranzman643
    @joshuaranzman643 Před měsícem +4

    It´s a pity, that that great device doesn´t have a send/return connection.

    • @dylanjastle
      @dylanjastle Před měsícem

      Yeah, putting a reverb/delay/chorus in the loop before it sends a balanced signal out would be really nice. Regardless, I’m tempted to buy one

  • @svenandresen6494
    @svenandresen6494 Před měsícem

    what will be the pricetag?

    • @CTBlaze
      @CTBlaze Před měsícem +1

      you can (pre-)order it now, around EUR 595,-

    • @svenandresen6494
      @svenandresen6494 Před měsícem

      @@CTBlaze thank you for your reply ... imo way to much

    • @JohnWiku
      @JohnWiku Před měsícem +1

      I can buy right now the toneX pedal for 380.
      There's no reason for this to cost 600 bucks when the ecosystem is open source.

    • @CTBlaze
      @CTBlaze Před měsícem +1

      @@JohnWiku but exactly that is the benefit and convenience!
      IK Multimedia will never serve you with THAT quality and amount of models; and the hardware platform with DSP programming has nothing to do with the open source world.
      It's a completely new hardware development, an ingenious invention actually!

    • @schenkerrothmoore
      @schenkerrothmoore Před 29 dny

      @@JohnWiku this company put in a ton of work in a short time 100+ hour weeks for many employees

  • @JayStapley
    @JayStapley Před měsícem +1

    Can it load Kemper amp profiles?

    • @DoomPlugs
      @DoomPlugs Před měsícem +1

      No, that's not possible, but it can load NAM files =)

  • @szveszs
    @szveszs Před 28 dny +1

    Man, 600 euros... I know, I know... But, man... Good equipament anyway.

  • @Jerrythill
    @Jerrythill Před měsícem +2

    No stereo?

  • @jconner3891
    @jconner3891 Před měsícem +1

    The man in this video should be speaking about nature or someone 😂

  • @vitaliistep
    @vitaliistep Před měsícem +1

    For €300 it would be no brainer, €600 is too much considering the alternatives.

    • @JohnWiku
      @JohnWiku Před měsícem +1

      toneX pedal at 388 on Thomann.
      This pedal cannot ever be more than 100 bucks more expensive than that, let alone the current price

    • @nebroTtfeoH
      @nebroTtfeoH Před měsícem +2

      That seems to be the price for made in Germany over made in China.
      For my part I miss an effects loop and dual amps in stereo. That would also justify its price tag.

    • @vitaliistep
      @vitaliistep Před měsícem

      @@nebroTtfeoH Nobody cares, made in China doesn't mean a bad quality anymore.

    • @MrRob33
      @MrRob33 Před 24 dny

      Early adoption has it's price. So does buying something made by people who care about quality control over a sweatshop.

  • @marctamtonthat
    @marctamtonthat Před měsícem

    2 preset per bank is really not enough. 3 is would be the minimum. 64 bank also is too small.

  • @pikkubuddha
    @pikkubuddha Před měsícem

    Only mono out…

    • @CTBlaze
      @CTBlaze Před měsícem +1

      What do you need stereo for?
      to have the DSP driven FX in stereo? that's a luxury feature, not really "necessary".

  • @SenseiKreese
    @SenseiKreese Před měsícem

    I don't see the ability to run a high cut after the IR. This seems to be a huuuuugggeee oversight. Among other issues, like a lack of FX and snapshots. I guess 2x snapshots is something, at least you can go clean to heavy. But the lack of high cuts? That is a huge deal breaker for me, high cuts are so important to getting modelers to sound great, especially live.

  • @johnhajewski1343
    @johnhajewski1343 Před měsícem

    Is this fake?

    • @dimehead
      @dimehead  Před měsícem

      Everything solidly developed in Germany. Feel free to check out our other videos :)

    • @CTBlaze
      @CTBlaze Před měsícem

      why would it be, why would you be in doubt?

  • @spyware1100
    @spyware1100 Před 5 dny

    It's a little bit expensive, compared to say a Tonex pedal.

  • @yargnad
    @yargnad Před měsícem +2

    _"DimeHead"_ screams 14 year old...

  • @wolvesandguitars
    @wolvesandguitars Před měsícem

    Looks like old tech

    • @fuzzaldryn9626
      @fuzzaldryn9626 Před měsícem

      Maybe on purpose? It's not like electric guitars and tube amps are incredible high tech eiither. 😂

  • @N8oRMusic
    @N8oRMusic Před měsícem

    Just get an amp

    • @DoomPlugs
      @DoomPlugs Před měsícem

      Then capture the amp, and then, load that into a small pedal unit and enjoy anywhere you like. Portable!

    • @N8oRMusic
      @N8oRMusic Před měsícem

      @@DoomPlugsgigs don't work like that

  • @daveredfern8258
    @daveredfern8258 Před měsícem +1

    Kemper for ever.

  • @VanjaSpirin
    @VanjaSpirin Před 24 dny

    If it's 200€ more than Tonex, and 400€ more than Tonex One, this is way to expensive. And no sound examples? Making a product much more expensive than a well designed counterpart?

    • @dimehead
      @dimehead  Před 24 dny

      Because nam requires many times more computing power than Tonex ;-) Take a look at our CZcams channel and homepage first before you just complain.

  • @Mike-fc5vp
    @Mike-fc5vp Před 28 dny

    but ,,but .. ,, real things valve amp is always better choice .... rest is only -smoke on the water .

  • @luxintenebris6614
    @luxintenebris6614 Před měsícem

    I like a sturdy tool and functional design, but this thing is so incredibly ugly! Why??? How do you guys want to be competitive, when most people would be ashamed to put such an ugly device on their beloved pedal boards? And yes, it looks so bad, it's NOT a matter of taste anymore 😀

    • @DoomPlugs
      @DoomPlugs Před měsícem +2

      I personally feel the opposite. You don't need to be horrible about it, and if you are it most likely says alot more about you than who you are being horrible towards.