OKAY MJ, YOU WIN!! The simplest argument for Michael Jordan being greater than LeBron James Reaction
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Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe are INVESTED. They have made their claims public and cannot walk it back or change their minds without an avalanche of backlash. Pride is a powerful thing. LeBron James is a great player. One of the greatest we have ever seen. To say that LeBron is better than everyone else including Michael Jordan is simply foolish. For all LeBron fans just enjoy him but stop lying to yourselves and everyone else.
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I don't believe Shannon actually believes it off cam
Bruh, thank you. I don't know why they gotta go so hard on Lebron. Like, I'm VERY critical of him, but I still got him top 5 all time. I think he's done enough to at least be in that group and personally, I have him at #5. And that's not bad, considering the MANY greats that came before him. Why they can't be happy with that? Lol
Shannon knows what’s up. He has to play his role. Nick Wright is his clam to frame. It’s his thing to take the wacky point of views. Nick Wright is the worst of the worst on sports shows tho
@@ManOfYah-work-in-progress You have to imagine LBJ like 10 years from now, when the hype is gone and we have perspective. People will remember a big personality and dominant force w magic like passing, but also the flopping and game flaws like free throws and his losing playoff record.
I'll take a prime Michael Air Jordan over Lebron anyday
Gotta remember the voters went thru MJ fatigue also when it cane 2 MVPs
Even on a bad day!
I would take a healthy 38 year old Jordan. That did was still dropping 25 a game on a destroyed knee and he went for 96 in two games beneath he could
Even the Miami Heat... A Team Jordan never even played on, recognizes he was basketball and is and always will be the goat... The Miami Heat retired the number 23 for Jordan
Hardaway and Zo were no joke
Pat Riley retired 23 so le China couldn't claim it best move ever on his part checkmate
Bron has never once left me scratching my head, wondering what the fuqq just happened. The quality of MJs highlights are on a different level. To me, #s and rings don't matter at all. MJ is and was the most electrifying player on the planet.
I played the game when I was younger. I was not bad. I couldn't do what the pro's did, but at least I knew how they did it. Michael was a different story. To this day, I have no idea how Mike did what he did.
@@curtisfranzen986 Same here! I played, helped coach a state championship, and trained shooting mechanics..and I've never seen anything like Mike. The things he could do was unreal.
@@darrellhardy90 I believe you were much better than I was. To teach is a gift. I'm a 6'1" white guy with a 6'4" wingspan. I wasn't a great outside shooter, 16' and in, I was ok. MY tools were speed, quickness, and jumping. Also unrelenting defense.
@@darrellhardy90 I did coach for 1 season. I discovered coaching was not for me. Not a problem with the Kids, it was the parents. I actually had a father tell me that I sucked and that he could destroy me. My response was "check ball"!
Lebron once dunked on a guy through traffic coming baseline where he moved the ball with two hands to the side then brought er back and dunked, that was just nasty and ill never forget. The block on tiago splitter and the block on iguodala both in incredibly high leverage moments. When he had that ungodly run with klove and kyrie down. Not a fan of jordan or lebron here but i also claim jordan as the goat. That daid, you jordan fans just cant give an inch. Lebron isnt one of the greatest players ever because he was trash. Say one good thing, i dare you
*Jordan* was only in uniform for 13 years collectively, the rest other two years he was injured. So he played 11 years in *Chicago* plus two years in *DC.* So six championships in 11 years with ten scoring titles..... Let that sink in.....🤔
the year he didn't get scoring title he only averaged...28 pts. LMAO
Also, Mike was ALWAYS a top 5 defensive player in the league as well. In fact, Mike is the only player in NBA history to take the scoring title AND win DPOTY in the same season.
Bill Russell has the same amount of championships as Jordan has collective years in Chicago and played 14 less playoff games, also led the league in defensive win shares every year he played but 2, in which he came in 2nd and 3rd...Let that sink in.....?!
@@johnbritt6594 bill russell played in a league with 8 teams against 5’2” plumbers. Bill Russell today would be Dikembe Mutombo. Bleacher report has a good article that breaks down how overrated Russell truly is in the goat conversation.
@@rabidDAWGfan82 1st of all the average height of players from Russell's era is only 2 inches shorter then 2days players..secondly you let a 11 year old bleacher report article convince you that Dikembe is as good as russell..lol...and even with 8 teams Russell only played 14 less playoff games then Jordan..lol..keep that dikembe mutombo comment 2 yaself in public you might get chased down the street for the blasphemy you speak
For me its always came down to clutch time. If I'm deciding my life on whose hands I want the ball in. I'm choosing Jordan, Kobe even Bird before I choose LeBron.
I'm choosing Jordan or Steph Curry period.
No offense young man, but Lebron statistically (there's a YT video on it; sorry, no link) was shown to be 20% in the clutch, while MJ was 50%. No need to wait any longer, but you're entitled to your opinion like everyone else. Peace
@@alexmartin9172 he’s not clutch
@@alexmartin9172 ugh, this comment with only statistics on what you remember watching lmao. Not one sane person in the world would risk anything on a clutch Lebron shot.
@@novofficial Steph doesn't hit big shots when it matters most, tho.I think he's the best shooter ever when it comes to the regular season, but he never elevates his game in the playoff.At least not enough to warrant the hype that he gets.There's a reason he doesn't have any Finals MVP's...It's only 3 players you want shooting it with your life on the line.That's Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Kobe Bryant.They're the most cold blooded killers to ever lace them up.
the real question is: "CAN HE(Lebron) STOP, JASON TERRY"
can you imagine what MJ would've done to Jason Terry if he was on the heat team that year?
20:00 I was looking for this comment! I'm DYING laughing at how terrible Terry would have been versus MJ.
For this exact reason was why jordan was feared.
It didn't happen but I can only imagine he would score 50 every night and hold Terry to under 10. Not one night, but every night he played him.
For the rest of eternity l!
Terry got the Trophy tatted b4 the series was over
imagine if mj saw that tattoo, bro would straight up murder jason terry on the court
MJ said it himself, he cringed everytime he hears people saying he's the GOAT coz he never had the chance to play against other greats like wilt, bill, etc. That is the respect to the game of basketball that he has.
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Yes, Mike has never declared himself as the GOAT. Others said that for him.
There is no debate young people that did not see the man play.
@@curtisfranzen986 he has
That's why MJ is the goat. The way he could change the outcome of a game. Not only that, he did it in the big games too. A real
clutch player. I get it Bill Russel had 11 Championships and MJ only 6. MJ had the biggest impact for the NBA ever. I mean internationally. I remember fans of opposites teams cheering for MJ with their mouths open. It's thanks to MJ that the sport became so big and that todays players have such big contracts.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having Lebron as your favorite player. There are people who have Curry, Kawhi, Giannis...etc as their favorite player too. The problem is, many people get emotional and believe that their favorite player has to be "THE GOAT." MJ is just at another level. People don't understand that MJ played ELITE at both sides of the court and he gave it his all every night. Let me repeat. BOTH SIDES at an elite level. Image the energy that takes.
MJ basically played 13 seasons, and 9 of those seasons he played all 82 games including his last season at age 40. The man didn't load manage. He played in dunk contests, in the Olympics, in Allstar games, and of course the playoffs and Finals. As great as Lebron is, immediately after he played his first 82 Game season, he suffered his first major injury the following season. Coincidence?
100%... just look at how many 80+ game seasons Mj had vs how many 80+ game seasons lebron has had...
Exactly.
I live in Chicago, loved the Bulls back in the 90's..but my favorite player growing up was Charles Barkley.
Spot on my dude. Curry, Bird, and Nash are my favorite players but MJ is unquestionably the GOAT. Virtually no black marks on his resume. Plus the eye test still favors Mike. My grandma lived in the boonies and doesnt have a TV, she still knows Michael Jordan.
Well according to your info even wilt the stilt chamberlain did too. Yet he averaged 55 points over his career before the 3 like existed. So that would mean wilt was better right?
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Wilt averaged 50 for one season, which is still impressive. Jordan's career average however, is higher than Wilt's. Jordan has the highest career average in nba history. Also won the most scoring titles in nba history (10 of them.)
If you only want just one stat that separates Mike from LeBron as the GOAT, aside from anything else, is the fact that Mike lost only 1 playoff series from 91-98. That is straight up dominance and gives him the GOAT status by itself.
Preach
He was playing himself back nw basketball shape
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Michael Jordan always made it a point to say it's impossible to name him GOAT, he never played Wilt or Russell. He never ran the court against a young Big O and Kareem.
He said its impossible to define best ever, considering most of the 'best ever' argument guys didnt have a bunch of head to heads.
What separates Larry and Magic, was that they met up at the end 3 times. They decided who the best was, while staring at each other across the court.
To me, what created Jordan, was the era. When Jordan came into the NBA there were 2 of the all time dynasties in full stride, Lakers and Celtics, with a young up and coming Pistons team who was trying to figure out the Celtics.
What type of scenario did Jordan walk into? The 3 teams who were ahead of him as a kid, appeared in 16 Finals, and won 10 rings in a 12 year period.
He came up having to figure out 2 of the top teams ever built. Not even counting the out west monster of LA with whom he won his first ring against.
You have to have a historic team to beat historic teams. The Bulls became the beating boys of the 80s dynasties, the schooled children.
But what that era created was....Jordan and the Bulls. If you couldn't beat the 80s Celtics, or Bad Boy Pistons, you probably couldn't beat Chicago.
The era created a team and player who were almost impossible to beat in a 7 game series.
Nobody will ever have the killer instinct of Mike, because no one will ever come into a league already designed for a decade of dominance, REGARDLESS of what you can do.
To come out of that fire still fighting creates an unstoppable scenario.
The Bulls were the literal definition of they can't do shit, until we quit.
The team and players were designed by some of the toughest squads to ever touch an NBA floor.
Once they reached the pinnacle, nobody ever held the mountain like that.
Nobody has ever been beaten into greatness like that, by the quality of opponents Jordan was faced with.
The scenario created Jordan, you just can't re create that for a young guy.
Imagine having to face 3 dynasties, but then imagine facing that gauntlet every playoff appearance.
No one will match the ferocity, because they never got T rolled consistently by a mean Pistons team.
Situations are important too.
And the argument that the Bulls faced weak competition after the decline of the Pistons and Celtics is a non-argument. The Bulls were so dominant that they made the rest look bad by default, same as Detroit and Boston did in the 80's. Similar to the "Tyson faced weak opponents after the era of Ali, Foreman, Frazier, etc". Actually, Tyson was such a brutal force in the ring that his opponents seemed weak by comparison.
Good observation
Its crazy...the "shot" was set up by the "steal" on malone on in sequence......that's greatness
When I was growing up watching MJ, he seemed mythical even though you can watch his games in real time and highlights…he still didn’t seem real.
He still doesn't seem real. You can't see a player having 10 scoring titles, 9 all defensive first teams, and 2 3 peats.
It was amazing. I am so grateful that I got to watch Michael Jordan play my entire life. I got to see him in person a few times and I never saw anybody move the way that he moved. He had this walk that kind of looked like a cheetah and his skin was beautiful. I saw it it looked like it had diamonds encrusted in it or something. You may say I’m talking crazy Allen Iverson said the same thing he didn’t say diamonds he just said his skin looked different it was a godlike person and there were so many times where they would get down 12 points in the fourth quarter and you think maybe this time Reggie takes Jordan out he can’t go on forever and then Jordan scores 12 points in two minutes and they’ve got 10 minutes to finish them off
Lebron was getting worked by Jason Terry and had no business playing someone like this. If he was so versatile like everyone says he was why wasn’t he guarding Dirk. Like putting Lebron in the GOAT convo with Jordan is a joke…
MJ's killer instinct was 24/7/365
Whenever you hear the comparison of Michael J. Jordan to that other individual, all you have to do is raise two questions. What weakness did Michael J. Jordan have? Then ask, how many weaknesses does the other individual have? Another question you could also raise, is that other individual better than Kobe Bryant?
Real!!
Jordan took a team of drug addicts and draft picks to a dynasty. Every team built to try to dethrone him. He maintained being the best player on the best team for nearly a decade.
Lebron jumped to whatever team had the best chance in the weaker conference... and had say in what trades he wanted. This allowed him to coast during the season to only put in his effort in the playoffs.
That’s a lie. Those bulls teams were great.
@Travis Walker Is the final say of who's a goat. Search for this title : Goat debate of Michael Jordan ends here. Only this video shows it in thoughtful Copy and paste the entire wording for the search.
@@heartoflion3736 I don’t believe in the “goat” conversation. It is unquantifiable bullshit. However, as someone who watched and played a ton of ball during that time, I cannot let the narrative that those bulls teams were Jordan, Pippen, and a bunch of scrubs continue… Hodges and Kerr were two of the most efficient 3point shooters of all time. Grant and Rodman were top 5 rebounders and defenders. Pippen was a top distributor of the ball. Kukoc was the best foreign player at that time. Basketball is about putting together pieces. They had great pieces…
More accurate to say that MJ joined a particular type of team that had to be rebuilt around him.
@@traviswalker5365 MJ made them great, LBJ just recruits great already players then reduce them to catch and shoot bums
I'm 70 ,White Canadian Woman who knew SFA about Basketball ,MJ made People want to Watch.
He Struck Awe into the People. A Beauty to Behold.
LeBron can Never do for Basketball what MJ Did. That is Why he is the GOAT,not only his Play on the Court.
He will always be the Face of Basketball to Tens of Millions Worldwide,who otherwise wouldn't have given Basketball a 2nd Look.
My favorite Player of NBA eras since 1987 when I became an NBA fan is Michael Jordan
If you had 1 possession and "had" to score to win or lose, which player would you trust....
It was always comforting knowing MJ had the ball at the end cause you just felt like he was gonna pull it off...
Can't say that about Lebron..
I'd pick Jordan, Kobe KD and Tim Duncan before picking Lebron to make it. Not saying that Tim should be in the Goat conversation but,
If there was an all time draft and I had the 2nd pick I'd pick Tim Duncan, assuming Jordan had been taken.
Tim has a lower usage than Kobe, more field goal percentage than Lebron. Tremendous defensive presence and rarely injured. Loyal as heck.
Doesn't need the perfect situation to win either or to get the job done.
If Pop didn't mess up Tim would have 7 rings without being ball dominant and through different eras, that's saying a lot.
@@shadow_realm47 yo somebody showed love 2 Duncan
For me personally, there's never been anyone so beautiful to watch play a sport that Michael Jordan.
Kyrie Irving was amazing in the 2016 championship series LeBron didn't do it by himself Kyrie was just as important as LeBron people tend to forget to talk about the impact that Kyrie had without Kyrie LeBron wouldn't have won that championship
…but, but Bron says that victory made him the GOAT! How can this be if he had teammates that contributed as well? How did the supposed GOAT get down 3-1 in the first place? His rival for the title never had to come back from a 3-1 deficit because he never allowed the series to go beyond 6 games in his 6 finals.
In that series Kyrie Irving avg. 27.1 pts per game, Lebron avg. 29.7 Kyrie went 31/33 from the line for 93%. Lebron 31/43 for 72% Kyrie 18 turn overs, Lebron 31 turn overs. The stats goes on. Lebron wasn't the sole reason for their comeback. People need to rewatch that series and pay attention to how Kyrie was just as much as Lebron responsible for them winning that championship. Check the stat lines for that series
Kyrie points were impactful and Lebum points were stat padding in 2016
@@g24deez lebron wasn't stat padding because they needed every point
@@eazymoneymane7789 Kyrie points were impactful and clutch hence why LeBron never won anything without Kyrie in Cleveland 1-5 Finals Record
It's all in good fun.. good barber shop banter.. plus that's why I clicked on your video 😂.. MJ 🐐❤
The shooting percentage in context shows Jordan was CLEARLY a better jump shooter than Lebron, in fact, outside of 3 feet Lebron often shoots about 36%. I'm not going to go into all the reason why MJ is the GOAT like I did on the GOAT video a few weeks ago but I will say this. Its obvious Jordan is the greatest offensive machine ever, but defensively, people sleep on the fact Jordan was ELITE as a defender at the same time. He was a much better defender than Lebron.
Jordan on Defense
He was the first player in history to be selected to 9 All Defensive First teams.
He was the first player in history to get 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season, it has still only been done by 3 players. (Michael did it twice).
He was the steals leader 3 times.
He's the only guard in history, relative to his position, both in the Top 5 for blocks and Top 5 for steals.
He was the defensive Player of the Year and Scoring Champion in the same year, the only player in history to accomplish this.
His 131 blocks for the 1988 season is still the most blocks in a season by a guard in NBA history.
Amazing.....Jordan fans suffer from a sort of mysticism for a player. Lebron produced better team results. Jordan produced better results for himself. Lebron carried a team with Moe Williams as his best player to 60+ wins multiple times. Jordan could not carry his team to a winning season without Pippen. But somehow you trust Jordan to get it done over Lebron. It is pure craziness.
@@allenlucas1676 😂😂😂better team results huh 72-10 record turned pippen into a top 50 player boy you are a fucking clown
@@chikushodiz91 Once again....that 72-10 record came with Pippen on the team. Pippen had a better career season win rate than Jordan did before and after playing with Jordan. Lebron carried the Cavs with Moe Williams as the best player to a 66-16 win record. That is why lebron's career WS/48 is much higher than Jordan's despite Jordan winning more rings.
@@allenlucas1676 oh so he carried no Williams to the finals in 07 lol
@@chicityjay He didn’t?? 🤨
Can't believe I still had to hear Nick Wright talking again XD
Good for you. The truth hurts, but it will set you free. And make you a man. Welcome to the real 💯 world 🌎. 🌎
I'm going to double dip in this thread. I'm from Dallas and I still occasionally wear my 2011 Championship hat. That run by the Mavs was insane as they knocked off 3 different super teams with only Dirk as a star. Jet Terry was ready for the challenge and he did exceptionally well, but he was a quick and talented ball player, not on Lebron's level but Jet was quite good. He and Dirk knocked off an OKC team with Harden, KD, and Westbrook, knocked off a Kobe Laker team that was looking for their 3rd championship in a row, and then knocked off the Lebron led Heat. It is an insane achievement.
That really is insane
No it's not not really go and get along gang!!
Keep in mind Kobe had a sprained ankle tho... Miami was heavily favored in that finals
2011 OKC was not a super team. Those were babies
I know you did not just use 12 ppg Harden to invent a super team or even a big three out of okc
MJ and Kobe had a killer instinct. Ice in their veins. And undeniable passion for the game.
If Lebron can claim beating warriors made him”GOAT”, his play during finals against falls shows he is NOT. It’s not like he had a bad game, he had a bad series. He could not adapt to guarding an old role player. The narrative he could guard all 5 positions? He wouldn’t even guard dirk.
He literally played center on D and point guard on offence and it worked great ss it has multiple times throughout his career. Similar to westbrook has done at times. Lebron isnt the goat but it had nothing to do with anything you said. He had one bad series lol, so what
And MJ should've won 4 more MVPs himself if we are doing that. Good vid though.
Fair point
No fair point at all the go and get along gang!👎
@@raymondsims3307 I said fair point cause there was a season where Karl Malone won MVP but it was controversial cause MJ should’ve won. There were seasons Lebron could’ve won MVP, like 2008, 2011, or 2020, but at the end of the day it is what it is, Jordan got more, even if it is just 1 more.
This person who made this post he did it for clickbit..sad👎👎
@@raymondsims3307 okay bro
You're awesome!! I love your open mind it should be commended for sure!! Michael Jordan is the goat but like you said everyone deserves their place in history! the constant comparisons takes away the accomplishments from each player! I subbed because I like the way you keep yourself unbiased and real! I know this is a year later but much love!
I appreciate the love fr, and glad you mess with the vid. I’ll be posting again soon, much love 💯💯🙏🏾
Yes MJ is the best all around basketball player there ever was . And the truly amazing level of skills he brought to the game is truly amazing. I’ve watched a few of these reaction to bull’s mixes and the funny thing is the amount of times people are rewinding and pausing. Because they can’t believe what MJ just did. And then in the next sentence they still say the think LeBron is better 🤔 seriously 😒 wow
It will be awhile before we see the like of MJ again 🦄
Good video. Only thing I didn't like was the "better passer and rebounder" narrative. MJ did both at the highest level when necessary.
🔥 vid yo👍
James chase down block comes from mj as well. A whole mix tape can be made on mj chase down blocks
I was a Dr. "J" fan, growing up!! I remember 🤔 hearing the announcer........ and number 6 Juulius Errrrvinggg!! I got goosebumps!!
Totally RESPECT my Brudah. :)
13:23 I'm sorry, but that man just blocked Patrick Ewing 🤯
Fr that’s crazy
The elevation!!! Chasedown block means they got by u
Remember when Wizard era MJ pinned Mercer
When you mentioned the MVP thing between Jordan and LeBron James. Jordan would have gotten the MVP nearly every season he played with the Chicago Bulls had the NBA not wanted to shake things up a little. In the same year that Karl Malone was the MVP Michael Jordan was the MVP of the NBA finals against Karl Malone and the jazz any end of the game by stealing it from Malon and draining the game winner. The year that Jordan knocked Barkley out of the NBA finals, Barkley got the league MVP but Jordan got the NBA finals MVP. There are a couple more I can’t remember but that’s two MVPs that clearly were not given to the right person if a man meets the MVP of the league in the finals dominates gets the MVP and the ring how is he not the MVP of the league and he did that multiple times. And I don’t get why they go so hard on Jordan against the pistons. Everyone hated the Pistons no matter where you were from because when you were watching they were such a dirty team that you didn’t want to see the superstars of the league getting serious injuries and not being able to see them play. They did it to everybody and especially to Michael Jordan. They were a very dirty team and they still needed 14 games to win those two titles in the Eastern conference.
They (Pistons) were so dirty and rough, that Bill Lambeer came out with a video game on the SNES called Bill Lambeer's Combat Basketball. lol
Pippin was an All-Star like 7 times I think. 6 of them were with Jordan and Pippin played 16 or so seasons.
Not true
@@FShep you sure?
@@alasdaircook3030 he was a 6 time all star
@@chicityjay Google lied to me then
@@chicityjay all 6 with mj?
Fire vid as always
Thank you bro🙏🏾
Something I've been noticing after watching a number of Jordan highlight reels and individual game highlights lately, is just how insane Jordan's midrange post up game really was. I'm old, so I saw all these dudes play from about 1980 and on, but I've been seeing a lot of props for players with a strong fade away shot these days, but when you roll back the tape, none of them has a fade away like Jordan's. This dude would set players up in the 12-18ft range and then proceed to either get them all twisted up with their momentum going the wrong way, leaving him with a WIDE open path to the basket, or he would freeze them in place with a turn towards the basket but then faded away instead, leaving him with a WIDE open jumper. Sometimes, he wouldn't even bother backing them up, he would face them head on, poke a foot towards the basket, or even fake a drive, and then step back for a set shot. D had to respect his speed and quickness so much, that he was often WIDE open on those set shots too. Look at his mid range fade away over time, even when he was older and lost much of his quickness to age and injury, he was often wide open anyways. There are times when he is making this shot over PFs and centers coming out on him, and they STILL can't even affect his shot, let alone have a chance to block it. MJ is just straight up another level in so many ways.
Oh and young bloods say, "oh MJ couldn't shoot the 3, so he would just be another guard in today's league"... yeah, he didn't need to be the GOAT of 3s in his era, because the rules didn't necessarily favor that shot, and he was averaging 30+ every night without it. And when his team did need to hit 3s, more often than not, he got the buckets his team needed. If Jordan had played when the rules favored 3s and offensive players in general like today, you can bet the farm this dude would have honed his game to be great at 3s, and would be scoring even more.
LeBrandon will never come close to Jordan.
Yooo..fam...the funniest part..was Jason Terry 🤣 😂 😆 😄 ..I'm in tears..lmao
Good video bro
What software you using with the phone to give backgrounds?
Oh .. And Can he stop Jason Terry!? 😆 Magic crazy
damn that last five mins hit bro. well fucking said
Preciate that bro fr💯
Congrats on the recent success bro, I see your views and subscribers have been goin up 📈💪🏽
Preciate that bro, finna keep working‼️💯🙏🏾
My vote for THE goat is Michael Jordan. There are soo many greatest.. But my favorite and I believe he stands with any other player that ever played the game is Larry Bird.
@Aaron9 thanks!
If Bird had 1 tenth of LeBrons athleticism and didn't hurt his back paving his driveway.The debate would be Bird-Jordan period.Lebron who?
I got back to this video of yours after a long time for some reason. It aged well. LeBron is at the cusp of passing Kareem for the scoring record. I consider myself very fortunate being able to see him reach new heights in his long, decorated career. Bless you, brother!
Do a Kobe vs. Lebron Video, that would be dope.
23:20 the chair creeking in disbelief is the beet special effect i ever seen on this channel...fn hilarious
Mike Drop, bruh!!🎙️ Nicely said!!👌🏾
Omg the look on your face, when Terry dunked the ball bahahaha
CAN HE STOP JASON TERRY
The only mvp that matter in today's game is the FINALS MVP!
The only thing I can say about Russell is he played with less than 10 teams in the league with fewer shorter rounds and the draft was different. Players signed lifetime deals, much easier to build and keep a stacked team.. so there's that
Terry got the Trophy tatted on his arm b4 the series was over
Part of being considered the Greatest is being a team player. That fact moves James far down on the list.
23'20
When you realize how sport media fooled you loool
The Bulls never won a title until they had Jordan and haven’t won one sense
And Lebron only beat the Warriors due to injuries and ejections to and on the Warriors . Not that impressive!
Yeah, the Warriors DID fall apart in that series. Green couldn't keep a cool head.
@@amalshakur yeah, Draymond called Lebron a lil bitch for a reason cuz that was a bitch made move! He provoked that whole situation knowing what was gonna happen
MJ got MVP, scoring leader AND defensive player of the year in the SAME YEAR..... cmon yall
Bro i was dying when i understood that Gelo reference, i thought wow is gelo known for having high steals percetange or something, then i remembered he did have a high one ... off the court.
28:00 is such a gr8 sequence
I had Miami vs Cleveland but Bosh had health issues. Dragic, Whiteside, Johnson, Chalmers, Stoudemire, Deng
Jordan was injured 2 yrs of those 15 and only played 13 years to keep it 💯
I think us Jordan fans have gained Another fan in you...Goat Jordan..hail jordan
MVPS: Jordan : 5, Lebron: 4
Chips: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4
Finals MVPS: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4
Scoring Titles: Jordan: 10, Lebron: 1
DPOTY: Jordan: 1, Lebron: 0
All D first team: Jordan: 9, Lebron: 5
Steals Titles: Jordan: 3, Lebron: 0
Assist Titles: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 1
Finals Losses: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 6
Swept in Finals: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 2
Turnovers: Jordan: 2924, Lebron: 4424
Number of NBA finals shooting under 30%
from the 3pt line: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 2(2007,2012)
Number of NBA finals scoring + assisting 50%
of the team points(assuming all assists = 2 points)
Jordan: 3(1991,1993,1997) - The only player in NBA history
to have done this multiple times. Lebron: 1(2015)
Championships without a 20 ppg scorer in playoffs:
Jordan: 4, Lebron: 1
Jordan's finals opponents average wins: 61.2
LeBrons finals opponents average wins: 60.8
P.E.R (player efficiency rating):
Jordan - led the league 7 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 10 times in P.E.R. Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.9(1st in NBA history) and playoff career avg P.E.R 28.6(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - led the league 6 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 9 times in P.E.R. Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.5(2nd in NBA history). playoff career avg P.E.R 28.3(3rd in NBA history)
Win Shares:
Jordan - led the league 8 times. Also finished top three 11 times. WS/48mins regular season career avg .2505(1st in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg .2553(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 6 times. WS/48mins regular season career avg .2345(6th in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg .2436(3rd in NBA history).
Box Plus Minus:
Jordan - led the league 10 times. Also finished top three 11 times. Regular season career avg 9.22(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg 11.14(1st in NBA history).
LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 10 times. Regular season career avg 8.94(2nd in NBA history), playoff career avg 10.16(2nd in NBA history)
Value Over Replacement Player:
Jordan owns 6 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played.
LeBron owns 2 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played.
Jordan - VORP per game regular season career avg .1083(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg .1382(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - VORP per game regular season career avg .1059(2nd in NBA history) playoff career avg .1289(2nd in NBA history)
All time small forward rankings: (500 game min)
LeBron - Points 1st, Assists 1st, Rebounds 12th, Steals 9th, Blocks 17th, FG% 17th, FT% 107th.
All time shooting guard rankings: (500 game min)
Jordan - Points 1st, Assists 4th, Rebounds 3rd, Steals 3rd, Blocks 3rd, FG% 9th, FT% 34th.
Clutch Shooting:(5secs to go in a game or overtime) Career Regular Season and Playoffs.
LeBron - 19 out of 94 for 20%
Jordan - 25 out of 50 for 50%
24 secs left in game:
Jordan - 50% career
Lebron - 35.7% career
10 secs left in game:
Jordan - 46.7 career
Lebron - 39.1% career
5 secs left in game:
Jordan - 45.5% career
Lebron - 38.9% career
Clutch Scoring for Career(5 mins or less left in game and the game is within 5pts):
Jordan - 126 points on 46.9% FG%
Lebron - 85 total points on 30.8% FG%
Finals Win/Loss Record:
Jordan - 24-11
Lebron - 22-33
Playoff Competition:
Jordan - 50 win teams beat = 20 with a 74% win percentage 20 wins out of 27 games
60 win teams beat = 7 with a 77.8% win percentage
Lebron - 50 win teams beat = 19 with a 63.3% win percentage 19 wins out of 30 games
60 win teams beat = 3 with a 42.8% win percentage
Peak 6 years of each player in the playoffs:
Jordan - 34.6ppg, 50.5% fg%, 35.7% 3pt%, 83.1% ft%, 6.7 reb per game, 6.6 ast per game, 2 steals per game, 1 block per game
Lebron - 28.1ppg, 51.1% fg%, 34.4% 3pt%, 75.6% ft%, 7.7 reb per game, 7.3 ast per game,1.7 steals per game, 1 block per game
Career Playoff Stats:
Jordan - 33.6ppg, 6 reb, 6 ast, 48.1% fg%, 36.8% 3pt%, 80.6% ft%
Lebron - 28.4ppg, 10.2 reb, 7.8 ast, 48.4% fg%, 35.2 3pt%, 73.1% ft%
Jordan Scoring:
30.1 regular season PPG(highest in NBA history)
33.4 playoff PPG(highest in NBA history)
33.6 NBA finals PPG(highest in NBA history)
8 games of 50+ points, 38 games of 40+ points, never scored under 15 points in a playoff game
Lebron Scoring:
27 regular season PPG
28.7 playoff PPG
28.2 NBA finals PPG
1 game of 50+ points, 28 games of 40+ points, never scored under 7 points in a playoff game
Stop comparing GREATNESS to MEDIOCRE
Not only that...
Lebron has also had...
5 more years in the NBA and counting
238 more regular season games played and counting
9044 more minutes played and counting
1565 more free throws and counting
3916 more 3pt attempts and counting
and still can't pass MJ in all these stat categories!!!
NBA Finals Viewers:
Jordan - 1991: 23.91 million, 1992 20.84 million, 1993 27.21 million
1996 24.86 million, 1997 25.59 million, 1998 29.04 million
All 6 years are ranked top 10 in NBA history!!!
Lebron - 2007 9.29 million, 2011 17.34 million, 2012 16.86, 2013 17.7 million, 2014 15.5 million
2015 19.9 million, 2016 20.2 million, 2017 20.4 million, 2018 17.7 million, 2020 7.5 million
Lebron holds the nba record for the 2 lowest watched finals in league history(2007 & 2020) and Lebron's highest watched finals(20.2 million) still didn't have as many viewers as MJ's lowest watched finals(20.8)!!!
czcams.com/video/xqVIDt0ibGE/video.html
MJ also has this feat....
2777 days, 500 regular season games, 126 playoff games, 626 total games(over 8 years)
of not losing 3 games in a row!!! czcams.com/video/64Iy2et9v0E/video.html
czcams.com/video/jaGGJLAGWeA/video.html
czcams.com/video/nn55LA2loiU/video.html
czcams.com/video/-oay7-en5Ow/video.html
Jordan during his Wizards years:
czcams.com/video/Zeuk_qZXVXE/video.html
head to head comparison video
czcams.com/video/tl3mR6eoEa8/video.html
Here's the easiest way to end the ridiculous debate but it's not even a debate to begin when see and know basketball. Listen to the ALL TIME GREATS of the NBA, and you hear the vast majority of them say MJ is the greatest and best player they have ever seen play basketball, and some of them were saying this before MJ was the MJ we know now, just saying! Simply put, MJ was just different on the court, and we'll never see that kind of level of skill, gift, talent and greatness in one player like him ever again. I'm just grateful to have witnessed it for myself, not just CZcams clips, because clips alone don't do his greatness justice, no cap 💯
Much respect young blood. It took us a while, and damn ya'll didn't wanna hear it, but I think the last year (lots of Bron people finally sat down to do full reacts on Mjs career instead of just thinking that was old heads being nostalgic lol) really changed shit. MJ was a fuckin' artist, man. Bron is nice, and I see why young fans like him, but when MJ played, people in other countries/people who don't even fuck with basketball were just as glued to their TVs as anybody. It's hard to describe the cultural impact. Closest I can do? Imagine one man being as popular as like, TikTok itself. 90s Jordan-mania was something to behold.
Cheers!
Much love 💯
Michael Jordan=>an athlete that comes along once in a lifetime...and leaves a legacy that lasts a lifetime...LeBron and other players are great, talented, athletic, and skilled, but the problem is that they don't have what MJ has...Jordan was completely different than anyone that played the game....the more time goes by, I'm convinced that MJ is the greatest to play the game of basketball.
Man FOH!! Lebron James stands alone. There is no other like him. It will be much easier for players to accomplish what Jordan has before they can accomplish what Lebron has.
MJ also has this feat....
2777 days, 500 regular season games, 126 playoff games, 626 total games(over 8 years)
of not losing 3 games in a row!!! czcams.com/video/64Iy2et9v0E/video.html
@@allenlucas1676 MVPS: Jordan : 5, Lebron: 4
Chips: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4
Finals MVPS: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4
Scoring Titles: Jordan: 10, Lebron: 1
DPOTY: Jordan: 1, Lebron: 0
All D first team: Jordan: 9, Lebron: 5
Steals Titles: Jordan: 3, Lebron: 0
Assist Titles: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 1
Finals Losses: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 6
Swept in Finals: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 2
Turnovers: Jordan: 2924, Lebron: 4424
Number of NBA finals shooting under 30%
from the 3pt line: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 2(2007,2012)
Number of NBA finals scoring + assisting 50%
of the team points(assuming all assists = 2 points)
Jordan: 3(1991,1993,1997) - The only player in NBA history
to have done this multiple times. Lebron: 1(2015)
Championships without a 20 ppg scorer in playoffs:
Jordan: 4, Lebron: 1
Jordan's finals opponents average wins: 61.2
LeBrons finals opponents average wins: 60.8
P.E.R (player efficiency rating):
Jordan - led the league 7 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 10 times in P.E.R. Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.9(1st in NBA history) and playoff career avg P.E.R 28.6(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - led the league 6 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 9 times in P.E.R. Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.5(2nd in NBA history). playoff career avg P.E.R 28.3(3rd in NBA history)
Win Shares:
Jordan - led the league 8 times. Also finished top three 11 times. WS/48mins regular season career avg .2505(1st in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg .2553(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 6 times. WS/48mins regular season career avg .2345(6th in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg .2436(3rd in NBA history).
Box Plus Minus:
Jordan - led the league 10 times. Also finished top three 11 times. Regular season career avg 9.22(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg 11.14(1st in NBA history).
LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 10 times. Regular season career avg 8.94(2nd in NBA history), playoff career avg 10.16(2nd in NBA history)
Value Over Replacement Player:
Jordan owns 6 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played.
LeBron owns 2 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played.
Jordan - VORP per game regular season career avg .1083(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg .1382(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - VORP per game regular season career avg .1059(2nd in NBA history) playoff career avg .1289(2nd in NBA history)
All time small forward rankings: (500 game min)
LeBron - Points 1st, Assists 1st, Rebounds 12th, Steals 9th, Blocks 17th, FG% 17th, FT% 107th.
All time shooting guard rankings: (500 game min)
Jordan - Points 1st, Assists 4th, Rebounds 3rd, Steals 3rd, Blocks 3rd, FG% 9th, FT% 34th.
Clutch Shooting:(5secs to go in a game or overtime) Career Regular Season and Playoffs.
LeBron - 19 out of 94 for 20%
Jordan - 25 out of 50 for 50%
24 secs left in game:
Jordan - 50% career
Lebron - 35.7% career
10 secs left in game:
Jordan - 46.7 career
Lebron - 39.1% career
5 secs left in game:
Jordan - 45.5% career
Lebron - 38.9% career
Clutch Scoring for Career(5 mins or less left in game and the game is within 5pts):
Jordan - 126 points on 46.9% FG%
Lebron - 85 total points on 30.8% FG%
Finals Win/Loss Record:
Jordan - 24-11
Lebron - 22-33
Playoff Competition:
Jordan - 50 win teams beat = 20 with a 74% win percentage 20 wins out of 27 games
60 win teams beat = 7 with a 77.8% win percentage
Lebron - 50 win teams beat = 19 with a 63.3% win percentage 19 wins out of 30 games
60 win teams beat = 3 with a 42.8% win percentage
Peak 6 years of each player in the playoffs:
Jordan - 34.6ppg, 50.5% fg%, 35.7% 3pt%, 83.1% ft%, 6.7 reb per game, 6.6 ast per game, 2 steals per game, 1 block per game
Lebron - 28.1ppg, 51.1% fg%, 34.4% 3pt%, 75.6% ft%, 7.7 reb per game, 7.3 ast per game,1.7 steals per game, 1 block per game
Career Playoff Stats:
Jordan - 33.6ppg, 6 reb, 6 ast, 48.1% fg%, 36.8% 3pt%, 80.6% ft%
Lebron - 28.4ppg, 10.2 reb, 7.8 ast, 48.4% fg%, 35.2 3pt%, 73.1% ft%
Jordan Scoring:
30.1 regular season PPG(highest in NBA history)
33.4 playoff PPG(highest in NBA history)
33.6 NBA finals PPG(highest in NBA history)
8 games of 50+ points, 38 games of 40+ points, never scored under 15 points in a playoff game
Lebron Scoring:
27 regular season PPG
28.7 playoff PPG
28.2 NBA finals PPG
1 game of 50+ points, 28 games of 40+ points, never scored under 7 points in a playoff game
Stop comparing GREATNESS to MEDIOCRE
Not only that...
Lebron has also had...
5 more years in the NBA and counting
238 more regular season games played and counting
9044 more minutes played and counting
1565 more free throws and counting
3916 more 3pt attempts and counting
and still can't pass MJ in all these stat categories!!!
NBA Finals Viewers:
Jordan - 1991: 23.91 million, 1992 20.84 million, 1993 27.21 million
1996 24.86 million, 1997 25.59 million, 1998 29.04 million
All 6 years are ranked top 10 in NBA history!!!
Lebron - 2007 9.29 million, 2011 17.34 million, 2012 16.86, 2013 17.7 million, 2014 15.5 million
2015 19.9 million, 2016 20.2 million, 2017 20.4 million, 2018 17.7 million, 2020 7.5 million
Lebron holds the nba record for the 2 lowest watched finals in league history(2007 & 2020) and Lebron's highest watched finals(20.2 million) still didn't have as many viewers as MJ's lowest watched finals(20.8)!!!
czcams.com/video/xqVIDt0ibGE/video.html
MJ also has this feat....
2777 days, 500 regular season games, 126 playoff games, 626 total games(over 8 years)
of not losing 3 games in a row!!! czcams.com/video/64Iy2et9v0E/video.html
czcams.com/video/jaGGJLAGWeA/video.html
czcams.com/video/nn55LA2loiU/video.html
czcams.com/video/-oay7-en5Ow/video.html
Jordan during his Wizards years:
czcams.com/video/Zeuk_qZXVXE/video.html
head to head comparison video
czcams.com/video/tl3mR6eoEa8/video.html
@@DfsGamerGuru sir I can run down an even longer list of accomplishments for Lebron. I’m not going to. None of y’all give a shit what he accomplished. Jordan is the inferior player between the two. He was simply on the better team with better coaching. Thank Phil Jackson and Scottie Pippen for Jordan’s success. Lebron don’t need a good coach or any particular player to win. And I’m not reading that long ass comment.
@@allenlucas1676 just to show you emotional clickbait educated ass clowns how delusional you truly are Michael Jordan only played with three other All-Stars over his career those three other All-Stars played a combined 11 All-Star games...😂😂😂😂😂
LeBron James over his career so far has played with nine other All Stars three times more than Michael Jordan...😂😂😂😂😂 Those nine other all stars have played a combined 78 All Star Games!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yeah you're right Michael Jordan had far more talent around him than LeBron James 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I'm not just listing achievements I'm listing career average stats across the board in every single category of basketball player gets recorded in! 😂😂😂😂
LeBron James hasn't even achieved more in the achievement department then Michael Jordan ask clown go read and get educated from reality rather than the clickbait you watch all day long! LeBron James is the biggest superstar bust of professional sports in any of the four major sports throughout history!!!
Numbers were created to determine VALUE... It's been that way since the very beginning of time and it will continue to be that way till the very end of time!!! Isn't it kind of ironic that you tell time by using numbers!!!😂😂😂
You can't even tell time in this world without using numbers as clown but here you are saying ignore all those numbers they're fake they're not real my emotions and delusions are what determine a player's value that's why Lebron James is the greatest 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Like I said previously you clickbait educated ass clowns walk around believing you're actually educated in reality until reality slaps you in the face and you have an emotional breakdown on social media because your favorite player isn't the player you thought he was he's been a fraud your whole life I get that that's why you're lashing out with this emotional and delusional verbal diarrhea! Go take that to a couch somewhere lay down and seek to help you truly need! 👊
The thing that MJ beats James EVERY TIME is MJ NEVER quit on his team. James routinely walks off the court during the game. He is too lazy for his talent. MJ is was killer.
Bruh,
It's over! It's been over!
Lebron's great. No doubt. Lebron is just NOT the GOAT!
Yep. That's Jason Terry dunking on Lebron's defense! Yep. That's Jason Terry blowing by Lebron's defense!
Michael Jordan is the GOAT!
And MJ was defensive player of the year the same year he won another scoring title.
Did you know that Michael Jordan is the only player in NBA history to win the NBA's scoring title, regular-season MVP, the NBA championship, Finals MVP, and make an NBA All-Defensive team in the same season? On top of that, he was able to achieve this in 4 different seasons; 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, and 1997-98. He would have achieved it 6 times, but the NBA awarded the MVP to Charles Barkley in 1993, and to Karl Malone in 1997. If Jordan had won MVP in those years, he would have had 6 seasons where he accomplished each of these milestones.
I’d rather be like MJ than LBJ!
Efficiency + Consistency = MJ
Longevity + Fluke = LBJ
7:46 u right Matt, ITS LAUGHABLE
Yep, good vid I should say
Jason Terry is my guy. I’m from Seattle and JT is a local kid. Plus he went to University of Arizona at a time where they were developing some of the best guards in the nation. JT is legit.
16:35 The problem Jordan should also won about 3 more MVP. There's literally an argument Jordan should actually won 3 more MVP as he did much better on those season he didn't won them than the actual MVP.
Your first reaction to Nick Wright was gold!
I would never say that Lebron isn't a monster, however, that 2011 season is a huge black mark on his resume in the GOAT discussion and when comparing him to others with legitimate claims. Also, while Lebron may be a legitimate MonStar in human form, we've all seen Space Jam, and know how that ends.
Jordan never once claimed to be the goat or the king he let others do it for him on the other hand lebron gotta keep saying out loud so he can convince himself this delusion that he is e em close to being the goat
And I think it was funny that guy put there only finals appearance in this conversation when it was Jordan who was destroying the cavs for them not to make it
MJ was always the best player on the court, there was never any doubt.
My simple argument is that MJ is still in the conversation. People like Nick Wright and Steve Kerr say players now are bigger, stronger, and faster. He is definitely bigger and stronger than MJ. Why did it take him longer to reach the same accomplishments, and why does MJ still lead him in some career averages. He made a good point "it shouldn't be that close." I also think the Warriors team is overblown. That team was running through the Cavs until the Draymond and other situations
Nick is certifiably crazy
"WHO'S GAME IS IT!!?" ;)
Honestly, I'm gonna go the other way to Rodman's remark on "If Larry Bird was Black, he'd be just another good player" and say... If Larry Bird was Black, he would have been their GOAT. Admit it or not, I've heard many Black people say racism and jealousy kept them from Bird.
They had Big Boy vets at guard TERRY AND KID+ Dirk at Dallas
The only difference between. Kobe and Jordan is ONE RING!!!!!!!!!!!
Jordans 15 year career was more like 13.25 years with injuries and when he returned from baseball wasn't much games left in that season.
Jordan should have won more MVPs as well. When Katl Malone won it twice MJ had better stats and a better record but they (media) were tired of giving him the MVP Award.
I liked both Wade, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq over Bron. I even think Tmac was more dominant.
The litmus test for me is: 1. If you were starting an NBA team right now and you could pick Jordan in his prime or LeBron in his prime, who would you pick? 2. If prime Jordan and LeBron were on the same team, who would be the leader of the team?
You earned a sub bro. Jordan Kobe James
Basketball aside, look at Jordan's impact on culture and fashion. Jordan also passes the eye test. Jordanesque became a adverb and adjective for witnessing greatness.
Lmfao Dom said Draymond can ruin your chances at parenthood
I have Lebron James in 8th place of the greatest players of all time just after Tim Duncan. I have MJ, Bill Russel, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird. Lebron is so bad on free throws and he has very less clutch gene = no killer mentality like MJ had !!
My top 10 NBA players of all time:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Tim Duncan
8. Lebron James
9. Shaquille O´neal
10. Wilt Chamberlain
Guy failed to mention Jordan also won the dunk contest..TWICE
i highly respect you for objectively seeing the argument for Jordan despite being a lebron fan. I'm a bulls fan, so lebron broke my heart in the 2010s a few times, so i can't be a fan, but i have to respect him as an (imo) indisputable number 2
Jordan didn't want to perfect the 3, he said it would have ruined his game.