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- Jordan vs Lebron - The Best GOAT Comparison Reaction: It's like this discussion never ends! Who is the best? Jordan or Lebron. Who is the king of the 23? This analysis video apparently settles it so let's find out!
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I'm from Brazil and the NBA was only known here after MJ appeared. He put an entire country that was crazy about football/soccer to watch and enjoy basketball. I feel honored to have seen all the golden years of MJ's career. He is unique and I don't imagine he will ever be surpassed.
MJ is responsible for growing the NBA and basketball across the planet. As stated at the end of the video, the debate about who is GOAT is not even a debate.
I don't see why people don't understand that. I'm 14 and watch both of them. I didn't get to watch Jordan physically but I watch his games. I watched Lebron's physically and I can say it's not even a debate
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When you're good at something, you'll tell everyone. --> LeBron James
When you're great at something, they'll tell you. --> Michael Jordan
Right!!!!
So lbj ain't great? Sounds idiotic i'd say
@@muhammadprabuinzaghy2917 That's your own conclusion. And if you say its idiotic and it came from you, who am I to argue?
@@nyxravencross1567 fair
@Muhammad prabu Inzaghy Is the final say of who's a goat. Search for this title : Goat debate of Michael Jordan ends here. Only this video shows it in thoughtful Copy and paste the entire wording for the search.
MJ is the greatest and anyone with an IQ above 23 knows it.
Funny 😆
Someone said it in another video , "Comparing Lebron to Jordan is like comparing a really nice guy to Jesus". And this really represent my thoughts on this.
This is the best comment I've seen yet 🤣. No lies detected 💯
"Black Jesus"
Very true
Yep
I agree. There is just simply no comparison. Jordan all day everyday and twice on Sunday
"aliens come down ... you have One Game to save humanity"...so the plot of Space Jam, staring MJ?
Fact!!!! Hahaha
nickmendal
3 weeks ago
"aliens come down ... you have One Game to save humanity, scored tied with 0.1 second left..all comes down to a: FREE THROW
MJ - Mr. Swackhammer - sweats bullets and ready to throw a fit
LEBRON - Mr. Swackhammer: Jackpot, I win!! 🤣
Been saying this since I heard that stupid comment lol
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@@joesmith3098 yeah but they remade it with Lebron. Not saying he's better, he isn't.
When you see Jordan play it is like seeing a work of art being unveiled to you by a ruthless assassin. When you see Lebron play it is like, I've seen this before, nothing to be excited about.
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I don't know who asked MJ this question but the reporter asked MJ if he thought he could fly. MJ replied "for a little bit". Then you see him soar from the free throw line to execute a flawless dunk, it was a work of art!
It isn't even that you have already seen it. He is so sloppy while he tries to be so great and make it all look so easy. It is not a work of art. It is the focus and force to beat MJ. To be the GOAT and you have already played 6 and a half seasons past MJ. I mean really where do you let it go? You have the points and Assists and all that but can you put something together as artistic as Jordan because that is part of the reason he is the GOAT. I mean if you are still chasing Jordan and your lets say 7 seasons past when Jordan stopped playing, will you ever be able to dethrone Jordan?
2 things that drops Lebron out of this conversation, and even behind Kobe: #1. Flopping. #2. the comment of "CAN HE STOP JASON TERRY"
We cant hear when you are talking and laughing
That's the Answer Right There!!!! Jason Terrryyy!!!!! LoL 😂 Yaaaassssss!!!!
Kobe a head of Lebron for me as well. And a few other players.
What you mean "even behind Kobe?" Kobe right by Jordan
@@JohnDoe-ld7op agreed, the Black Mamba is about as close as I've seen to MU. But still not MJ and Lebron doesnt top Kobe. and a few other players in my opinion. Much less The Goat. That debate is ridiculous.
MJ didn't slack off ever. (King) James took a lot of breaks on defense. 37.5% field goal average beyond 3 feet is ignored by James' fans. MJ is the real king.
Also the leader in turnovers all time in the regular season and playoffs!....is also ignored by James fans and analyst alike.
No no. LeBron can be king. When it comes to basketball MJ is a god.
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King? Really? MJ aka Air Jordan, aka Black Jesus, aka King of Basketball and the Prince of Basketball aka Kobe Bryant. Princess of NBA, your boy Labron.
'Every single player in the NBA should be averaging 80% from the freethrow line'
Shaq: And I took that personally.
Mike was a cheat-code. There will never be a player like Mike. I'm from Germany and was never a big Basketball-Fan. Basketball isn't a big thing here. But when Mike played in the finals, me and my friends were sitting in front of the tv the whole night, just to see him play. His moves are art and he did things we had never seen before. That's what brought so many people into Basketball. By the way, Mike never said he is the greatest. When he was asked that question his answer was, that no one can tell, because he had never the chance to play against all the great players that came before him. Mike would never say he is the GOAT. But he is. He would have won 8 titles if he didn't retired after his fathers death.
And then Maybe 9 or 10 if The Jerry's didn't break up the team
It was an event to watch Mj and the Bulls play. Me, my friends and family were the same way. Everyone screaming and shouting at the TV. Mj was simply a once in a life time athlete.
I agree ipsis litteris.I'm from Brazil and the NBA was only known here after MJ appeared. He put an entire country that was crazy about football/soccer to watch and enjoy basketball. I feel honored to have seen all the golden years of MJ's career. He is unique and I don't imagine he will ever be surpassed.
MJ is responsible for growing the NBA and basketball across the planet. As stated at the end of the video, the debate about who is GOAT is not even a debate.
@@gilnpj agreed 👍 👌
FACTS!!!!
Jordan is to basketball what Pele is to soccer....just multiplied by a couple hundred. It's obscene and amazingly cool at the same time.
No, because Pele is not the GOAT... I'll give you a pass if you're American but Pele's legacy is based on lots of lies or half-truths...
1. His famous 1000 goals in his career, the majority of them was in exhibition games against amateurs, scoring 6,7 or even 8 goals in a single game because there wasn't a pro league in Brazil back then while he never played on the top leagues of Europe
2. His 3 World Cup wins are exaggerated because his Brazilian team was so talented that in 1962 when Pele got injured on the first game of the WC and didn't play at all in the rest of the tournament THEY STILL WON... they were so good that they didn't even need Pele to win...
Sorry but that's not the GOAT of football... you become the GOAT by being the best AND BEATING THE BEST OVER AND OVER AGAIN...
@@sportschool3537 facts. the only football player to win all the different trophies is Ronaldinho Gaucho.
@@MrDangelo7777 Still, not the best of all time though... he was the greatest showman football has ever seen by far... but not the best player of all time...
@Sport School Is the final say of who's a goat. Search for this title : Goat debate of Michael Jordan ends here. Only this video shows it in thoughtful Copy and paste the entire wording for the search.
@@heartoflion3736 i've seen it. it's good
Everyone is using this video in their goat argument. The guy who did this video was precise, brilliant and detailed in the presentation
Not to mention MJ never ever quit on his team, but LeBron? We've seen lots of time and mostly in the finals. Winning Championship is different than going to to finals and loses.
well.. thats not entirely true, he did retire on his team, for two years and then came back. If he'd have stuck around for those two years we might be looking at 8 straight championships.
Mike leads the history of the game in PER and he played during a time where that stat didn't even exist. Bron plays with that in mind and still not better than Mike. Think on that 😅
Much faster pace and handles the ball where his stat pads. Hes always played with super stars. Mj only had 2 for 3yrs and won all 3. Won 3 with just pippen and also won 6 out of 11 years with chicago. Lebron chased for 19yrs and still less rings by far.
@@johnle1535 major facts
No doubt
100%
Which player played with better players on every position . without jordan his team almost went to d eastern conference. Without lebron his team never made d playoffs. Any more questions
The truth of it is that the stats don’t lie and the facts don’t lie. This video wasn’t a matter of opinion he stated very clear and measurable facts. There aren’t different facts for LeBron. This was pretty comprehensive
That's why I say Jordan was the best ever ..
MJ is the GOAT but he didn’t give all details of certain stats to favor MJ. I know and seen people go deeper and give better context. He went just far enough to prove MJ is or was better. I think he was too but he purposely went one sided
@@douglasjohnson7880 buddy . Those 10 scoring titles and , 9 defensive tittles with his 30.1 points per game during his entire career is enough to say Jordan was better
@@bereal1640 what are you talking about? I clearly said MJ is bettet
@@douglasjohnson7880 hehe bro don't misunderstand me . I'm just giving you my view , I'm trying to say that only with those details is enough for me to say Jordan is the goat . But sorry if you misunderstood me .... Happy new year
LeBron GOAT story is just marketing. MJ GOAT story is real.
Jordan really didn't need any marketing. The man was just naturally on fire.
Jordan's game was poetry in motion.
I've not seen NBA games in about 20 years. That being said, I DID watch Jordan, I've only watched a few of the LeBron highlight videos to try to be fair and open. Other than the game being far less physical and looking more like high school games, I noticed 2 things that BUG me a lot. I've CLEARLY seen James 'travel' MANY times without it being called. And, I CLEARLY see many defenders move out of James' way or teammates give him the ball when they have obvious, easy shot. It almost seems like the stats that he's 'earned' are padded... LeBron is WAY better than me, but I don't see him even in the G.O.A.T. conversation.
What the fuck were u watching bro. Clean ur eyes lmao u trippin Lebron is top 2. No one ever had lead in points, rebounds assist and blocks in any nba finals for both teams. Think about that and came back from 3-1 deficit against a 72-9 team. Jordan never did that. Lebron average 25-7-7 for at least 15 plus years straight. Cmon stop playing my guy
@@okeythegoat2332 Nothing impressive about that after watching this video. James is good but not on Jordan's level.
@@okeythegoat2332 The original poster is right and only states facts. Using the "came back from 3-1 deficit against a 72-9 team" argument against Jordan's accomplishment is plain insulting as the video showed those Bulls under Jordan were the very first 70+ wins in NBA history and never went in deficit as a team to beat. That example is back to the point: beating the juggernaut once in 4 attempts or being the juggernaut six times including (2x threepeats).
_Lebron average 25-7-7 for at least 15 plus years straight. Cmon stop playing my guy_
Which position and compared to which counterpart?
@okeythegoat2332 jordan never had to do that that's why he never did that he was never in that position and lebron and the cavs shouldn't have been either you had Bron and kyrie vs steph and klay who's supposed to win that match-up I'm picking Bron and kyrie they should have never been down 3-1 and if draymond don't get suspended warriors win that series in 5
Idk why this is even a debate. Are we sure Lebron is ahead of Kareem, magic, wilt, Duncan, Kobe and Shaq?
No we aren't
No he isn't anything as good as those
Yes he is now
Lebron is way better than magic, cmon now. Kobe yes wilt maybe bron has more accomplishments, more winning more mvps more finals mvp, Kareem is debatable and mj is no1
Lebron is a better scorer than magic, better rebounder, better defender etc more efficient than magic, has better per.
Look at the jersey numbers, who played first, this easy answer is one way to show who the real GOAT is. Everyone knows MJ is the best player to ever exist at the game of basketball, and its doubtful anyone will ever reach that level again. Im 43, I watched MJ since his NBA debut as a little kid and watched his late 80 and 90's career intensely. I also watched LeBron when he first started and was also very impressed, but still havent seen the skill and ability of Jordan from anyone else, ever.
Kobe was the closed to him I have seen. I'm 48 and I agree with everything you said. 😉
biggest difference i see is the work ethic and the psychotic win at all cost mentality MJ had... there probably have been ppl more talented but no one came close to his ability to want to get better...
I’m the same age. And can EASILY say that you are spot on correct. The creative mind, court awareness, and drive was something no one possessed then or before and no one nowadays. Not even close. No one plays nearly as hard as any player from those days. They played HARD!! Every frickin game!!! Exhibitions and all. No load management crap. Today’s game is sad and a disgrace to all those players that played tough and hard and with passion. These dudes today worry about what they’re going to post online next. This shit is nuts😂🤦🏽♂️🥴
I'm also 43 and I agree. Let's not forget that Jordan was so good Miami retired his number out of respect. That's why LeBron wore #6 in Miami.
MJ 🐐 no doubt. Some people have to look passed their fandom of lebron
Bron goat
@@didoyjaboneta7177 Greatest Traveller Of All Time
Facts
I love lebron to death but mj is no1 but bron is better than Kobe for sure tho
@@didoyjaboneta7177 not even close. Anyone who watches this video and thinks lebron is the goat should check themselves into the local nut house
It’s absolutely crazy how many people think LBJ is better than MJ. It’s like they lack logic and always act on emotions.
It's mostly young fans and kids on Twitter. People who saw both of them play almost unanimously pick Jordan
Lebron is GREAT, Jordan is a God.
Can't forget his Flopping phase and that horrible crab-Travel he does! Big marks against him.
Well put together video and all facts. I didnt need to watch this to know MJ is the Goat. I saw the man play with my own eyes. Every game and every championship. And I've watched all the players since. No one is even close. And being a big Lebron fan when he 1st hit the NBA. And watching what he has done over the last 8 to 10 years. He isnt even my top 5 all time. Hes made the biggest career mistakes I've seen. And shattered for me the possibility to even surpass The Black Mamba. Lebron Changing so many teams and title chasing. For me has knocked Lebron out of the top 5 spots for ever. To many legends in those spots for lebron to get in. I have lebron around spot 8 maybe 9. And if he didnt actually show some killer instinct in the finals against the warriors. He would be around #10. So for him to say that series made him the greatest of all times is laughable. The man got swept twice! And lost to a aging dallas team with his super team. Nope, lebron isnt that killer legend in my eyes. To many legends showed how to get to the top. And it's not the formula Lebron choose to use. That's just my take on this nonsense debate. MJ all day every day for The Goat. And I have larry bird in my top 5. :) great job bud on this post.
Nothing but facts
Don't forget on the PER stat that he listed how often each of them finished top in PER, so Lebron is already at an advantage since he played 4-5 more seasons. If you compare this, and Lebron is still having the lower count that is pretty clear already. Most Lebron fans completele forget about the more seasons, same way when they were comparing him to Kobe, until they felt they could finally start going for Jordan, lol..
Lebron will never catch up to jordan becuase he accomplished all that at lebrons age right now.
A man who airballs free throws a man who only shoots 34% for his career from three or more feet away from the basket a man who has quit on his team's and walked off courts a man who has stacked his teams with the most talent a man who flops more than anyone in history a man who plays zero defense should not even be in the goat conversation. Michael Jeffrey Jordan is the goat there is no debate and anyone who can read or see would know this only someone outright lying would say otherwise.
I agree with most of your points but the best flopper award is reserved for harden
2011
lebron in his prime average only 17 ppg.in the finals ,, and can't guard a 37 yr.old Jason Terry..
Yaaaaaassssssss!!!!! TERRY BLEW HIS LIGHTS OUT!!!! Hilarious 😂
and clamped by JJ Barrea hahaha
and averaged 2.2 points in the 4th qt game 6 elimination game scored 2 points 4th qt Jordan would have taken that game over
When it goes to analytics at 17:25 he uses them in a cumulative way, so you have to remember that he is comparing Jordan's (effectively)13 years to Lebron's 18 years, so when it looks close like the 7-6 on PER you gotta remember Jordan led the league 7 times in 13 years while LBJ did it 6 times in 18 years. Jordan did it over 50% of the time and LBJ did it 33% of the time.
That's the danger of using analytics in a cumulative manner. It makes it look closer on paper than it really is. When it comes to win shares, Jordan led 8 times in 13 years(61%) and LBJ led 5 times in 18 years(27%). It's not nearly as close as the raw numbers would suggest.
It's over??
It never started!
Lebron James isn't even the best ever at his own position,,ffs!
I SECOND THAT !!!!! Yeah!!!!!
FACTS
…and that’s the only video he ever has to make. He is a legend off of that video alone. But yeah, MJ is several galaxies beyond raymone.
Send this video to Scottie Pippen. Apparently, he feels like MJ's equal 🤣
Jordan's overall body of work is overwhelming.
MJ has no equal
Jordan on Offense
30.1ppg for his career, most in NBA history
33.4ppg career playoffs average, most in NBA history
33.6ppg in 6 Finals appearances, most in NBA history
41.0ppg in a Finals series, most in NBA history
10 Scoring titles, most in NBA history
10 seasons with 2,000+ points, most in NBA history
Jordan with Analytics
PER (Player Efficiency Rating): Highest in history for both the regular season (27.91) and the playoffs. (28.6)
Win Shares per 48 (WS/48): Highest in history for both the regular season (.2505) and the playoffs (.2553)
Box plus Minus: Highest in history for both the regular season (9.22) and the playoffs (11.14)
VORP per Game: Highest in history for both the regular season (.1083) and the playoffs(.1382)
Jordan on Defense
He was the first player in history to be selected to 9 All Defensive First teams.
He was the first player in history to get 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season, it has still only been done by 3 players. (Michael did it twice).
He was the steals leader 3 times.
He's the only guard in history, relative to his position, both in the Top 5 for blocks and Top 5 for steals.
He was the defensive Player of the Year and Scoring Champion in the same year, the only player in history to accomplish this.
His 131 blocks for the 1988 season is still the most blocks in a season by a guard in NBA history.
Thank u! 🙌🏾
LeBron is an all-time leader in total flops, feather with Harden
@@nengnengnengable facts!! 🤣
@@dozhadeville444 Amen.....preach that gospel!! MJ all day
No lies detected
Lebron wouldn’t be in my starting 5 if “the aliens” came down to earth for a 5 on 5.
Jordan, Bird, Olajuwan, Stockton or Magic.... and then I guess Lebron? naaaa.. Tim Duncan lol..
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He is barely top 10.
Facts!!!!!! Same here. Great point
@@soramirez5473 think about Olajuwon. They watched this dude playing goalie in Soccer, and said, damn, he would be a great Basketball player!
I love how when LeBron stated he was the greatest that he looked down both times, not making eye contact with the panel so he couldnt see their reaction
I love LeBron fans. In one sentence they want every one to understand and sympathize with LeBron when he loses in the Finals to great teams. Despite being 8+ years into his NBA career for most of them and playing with guys like Dwade, Bosh, Irving, Love, and a bunch of veteran players since 2011, LBJ fans want us to just excuse his losses because of who he lost to. But at the same time ask why Jordan in year 1-6 had the nerve to lose to the Bird Celtics and Bad boy Pistons while playing with coke heads and while his eventual best Teammate in Pippen was still growing. I also find it funny that LeBron fans always talk about who MJ and the bulls faced in the finals and never speak about who he had to beat to get there. Perhaps it's because they know the road in Lebrons East was laughably weak compared to Jordan's. Every team Jordan lost too early in his career, minus milwaukee, made the finals. 3 of them won the whole thing and many believe the Pistons were robbed from winning another. It would be like LeBron getting drafted to a weak western team in the 2000s and having to play the 2000s Spurs or Lakers early in the playoffs with a team of line-sniffers.
And I also find it funny how unsympathetic LBJ fans are to Jordan's finals opponents. Getting to the finals out of what many considered the weaker conference just to lose to the best team from the tougher conference? Sounds like a lot of Lebrons finals losses, don't they? Of course, using their own argument, how could LeBron lose so many finals and get swept twice if he da GOAT?
I also can't get behind the lack if effort on defense. Even the greatest defenders of any sport get beat. It happens. But there is a difference between trying and failing and failing because you didn't try. Even the most hardcore LBJ fans know there were years where LeBron decided he wasn't going to put in the effort on D. This isn't football were you sit on the sidelines if your unit isn't on the field. In the NBA you have to put in the work on both ends. Jordan did night in and night out. He may have gotten beat but it wasn't for lack if effort. How can LeBron get mad and pout if his team lost by a point or two when he was standing at the other end of the court watching his defense go 4 v 5?
Finally(I promise) I can hear the LBJ fans regarding the clutch shooting. "But he has more than Jordan." Cumulatively? Sure. But let's not forget LeBron has played hundreds of games more than Jordan so he's had more opportunities to try those types of shots. But it isn't how many you've made in total necessarily but how likely you are to make them. In this scenarios who is the more clutch play? Player A who made 25 of 50 shots or player B who made 27 of 90? Player A is statistically the more clutch player.
While this is all true I like to go to that 86 playoffs against the celtics. That is one of the greatest sport teams of all time, with the best D in the league that year, and with the 5 HOF players, yet the playoff record of 63 points is still held by Jordan from game 2. They were swept, but every game was hard fought, and this is with a team of druggies, and drunks.
Well said my friend.
LeBron be chasing. Jordan didn't chase anybody. If he had, he might have played a few more seasons and won even more.
MJ is the greatest player ever by far please stop this debate
that was actually DangerP's first and only video. I checked his channel out before.
MJ THE ONE AND ONLY.
You are right, playing all games, what lebron didin’t do
My favorite players incude Jordan, the entire bad boys pistons team, grant hill. dirk, kg, penny Hardaway, curry, Kawhi Leonard and ja morant
Just getting around to Last Dance now, cool video to accompany that. Great content Nova!
LBJ can't be the best with no postup, mid-range, 3 point shot, bad at free throws and bad a defense against teams with winning records.
By comparing Lebron to Mj they're hurting Lebron's career/Legacy. It's not fair, if you think Lebron is the Goat just keep it as “Your Goat” don't compare your Goat to Mj cuz by doing that you're just gonna end up hurting your own feelings. If you're a die hard Lebron fan or Jordan fan ok, no problem cuz all people have different opinions .
True
People Love a Debate!!!
Very true..lebron fans will only get butt hurt. Trying to compare the 2. Like who you like and enjoy. :)
Facts
Lebron is my fav player but MJ is the goat still. So they can coexist in my opinion
In our life time, we will not see another Michael Jordan.
Have we ever seen Jordan flop?🤔Lebron is a whole🐬 on the court & always crying & complaining about fouls like Bruh Smh
You’re very professional and your videos are excellent! Keep it up man I’m really impressed with your stuff so far! 👊🏻
Lebron's weakness is his confidence. When the going gets tough instead of rising to the occasion and upping his game, he tends to flop and try to freeze the other team's skill cuz he doesn't believe in himself.
Thanks for the find, Adam!
I’m going to talk to my brother about this!
I'd like to see this type of video with James vs other greats such as Kareem, Kobe, Magic, and Bird. Is he even the 2nd best if broke down like this. If not where does he land?
Bruh. I’ve been watching your content since your early lagtv days, and I never knew you were so knowledgeable about sports. What a pleasant surprise! Looking forward to more varied content. I mean I love the gaming/tech stuff too, but this is just really cool. Look at Nova leveling up!!!
I'm definitely not particularly knowledgeable about sports, but I did play competitive basketball for 12 or so years from early schooling through the end of high school so I have an attachment to basketball specifically haha.
MVPS: Jordan : 5, Lebron: 4
Chips: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4
Finals MVPS: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4
Scoring Titles: Jordan: 10, Lebron: 1
DPOTY: Jordan: 1, Lebron: 0
All D first team: Jordan: 9, Lebron: 5
Steals Titles: Jordan: 3, Lebron: 0
Assist Titles: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 1
Finals Losses: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 6
Swept in Finals: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 2
Turnovers: Jordan: 2924, Lebron: 4424
Number of NBA finals shooting under 30%
from the 3pt line: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 2(2007,2012)
Number of NBA finals scoring + assisting 50%
of the team points(assuming all assists = 2 points)
Jordan: 3(1991,1993,1997) - The only player in NBA history
to have done this multiple times. Lebron: 1(2015)
Championships without a 20 ppg scorer in playoffs:
Jordan: 4, Lebron: 1
Jordan's finals opponents average wins: 61.2
LeBrons finals opponents average wins: 60.8
P.E.R (player efficiency rating):
Jordan - led the league 7 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 10 times in P.E.R. Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.9(1st in NBA history) and playoff career avg P.E.R 28.6(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - led the league 6 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 9 times in P.E.R. Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.5(2nd in NBA history). playoff career avg P.E.R 28.3(3rd in NBA history)
Win Shares:
Jordan - led the league 8 times. Also finished top three 11 times. WS/48mins regular season career avg .2505(1st in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg .2553(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 6 times. WS/48mins regular season career avg .2345(6th in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg .2436(3rd in NBA history).
Box Plus Minus:
Jordan - led the league 10 times. Also finished top three 11 times. Regular season career avg 9.22(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg 11.14(1st in NBA history).
LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 10 times. Regular season career avg 8.94(2nd in NBA history), playoff career avg 10.16(2nd in NBA history)
Value Over Replacement Player:
Jordan owns 6 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played.
LeBron owns 2 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played.
Jordan - VORP per game regular season career avg .1083(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg .1382(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - VORP per game regular season career avg .1059(2nd in NBA history) playoff career avg .1289(2nd in NBA history)
All time small forward rankings: (500 game min)
LeBron - Points 1st, Assists 1st, Rebounds 12th, Steals 9th, Blocks 17th, FG% 17th, FT% 107th.
All time shooting guard rankings: (500 game min)
Jordan - Points 1st, Assists 4th, Rebounds 3rd, Steals 3rd, Blocks 3rd, FG% 9th, FT% 34th.
Clutch Shooting:(5secs to go in a game or overtime) Career Regular Season and Playoffs.
LeBron - 19 out of 94 for 20%
Jordan - 25 out of 50 for 50%
24 secs left in game:
Jordan - 50% career
Lebron - 35.7% career
10 secs left in game:
Jordan - 46.7 career
Lebron - 39.1% career
5 secs left in game:
Jordan - 45.5% career
Lebron - 38.9% career
Clutch Scoring for Career(5 mins or less left in game and the game is within 5pts):
Jordan - 126 points on 46.9% FG%
Lebron - 85 total points on 30.8% FG%
Finals Win/Loss Record:
Jordan - 24-11
Lebron - 22-33
Playoff Competition:
Jordan - 50 win teams beat = 20 with a 74% win percentage 20 wins out of 27 games
60 win teams beat = 7 with a 77.8% win percentage
Lebron - 50 win teams beat = 19 with a 63.3% win percentage 19 wins out of 30 games
60 win teams beat = 3 with a 42.8% win percentage
Peak 6 years of each player in the playoffs:
Jordan - 34.6ppg, 50.5% fg%, 35.7% 3pt%, 83.1% ft%, 6.7 reb per game, 6.6 ast per game, 2 steals per game, 1 block per game
Lebron - 28.1ppg, 51.1% fg%, 34.4% 3pt%, 75.6% ft%, 7.7 reb per game, 7.3 ast per game,1.7 steals per game, 1 block per game
Career Playoff Stats:
Jordan - 33.6ppg, 6 reb, 6 ast, 48.1% fg%, 36.8% 3pt%, 80.6% ft%
Lebron - 28.4ppg, 10.2 reb, 7.8 ast, 48.4% fg%, 35.2 3pt%, 73.1% ft%
Jordan Scoring:
30.1 regular season PPG(highest in NBA history)
33.4 playoff PPG(highest in NBA history)
33.6 NBA finals PPG(highest in NBA history)
8 games of 50+ points, 38 games of 40+ points, never scored under 15 points in a playoff game
Lebron Scoring:
27 regular season PPG
28.7 playoff PPG
28.2 NBA finals PPG
1 game of 50+ points, 28 games of 40+ points, never scored under 7 points in a playoff game
Stop comparing GREATNESS to MEDIOCRE
Not only that...
Lebron has also had...
5 more years in the NBA and counting
238 more regular season games played and counting
9044 more minutes played and counting
1565 more free throws and counting
3916 more 3pt attempts and counting
and still can't pass MJ in all these stat categories!!!
NBA Finals Viewers:
Jordan - 1991: 23.91 million, 1992 20.84 million, 1993 27.21 million
1996 24.86 million, 1997 25.59 million, 1998 29.04 million
All 6 years are ranked top 10 in NBA history!!!
Lebron - 2007 9.29 million, 2011 17.34 million, 2012 16.86, 2013 17.7 million, 2014 15.5 million
2015 19.9 million, 2016 20.2 million, 2017 20.4 million, 2018 17.7 million, 2020 7.5 million
Lebron holds the nba record for the 2 lowest watched finals in league history(2007 & 2020) and Lebron's highest watched finals(20.2 million) still didn't have as many viewers as MJ's lowest watched finals(20.8)!!!
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MJ also has this feat....
2777 days, 500 regular season games, 126 playoff games, 626 total games(over 8 years)
of not losing 3 games in a row!!! czcams.com/video/64Iy2et9v0E/video.html
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Jordan during his Wizards years:
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I rather win 4 rings in 4 finals then winning 4 rings in 10 finals, those extra 6 would kill me mentally
But let lebron fans hype all those other finals up that he lost like he done did something miraculous now if he did that same thing in the west then I would give him props for that but when you did it in the east and majority of the time you had the better team then no nothing that special about that
I'm definitely here for more basketball vids! I love all your other content but basketball will just be one more thing to enjoy.
Yeah a player should always bear in their mind to shoot 80% or more in free throw shooting not just for a single season but FOR A CAREER. Jordan's worst free throw shooting is 78.4% in 1998 is still better than Lebron's best in FT shooting at 78.0%.
Great video, watched that Danger video a while back. Unfortunately, that's the only video he made so far. Wish he'd make more!!!
Great video reaction! What an amazing research analysis video this was.... Learned quite a lot about these two athletes...MJ clearly the better player...G.O.A.T. next to Wilt Chamberlain.
Love these debate reaction videos!
I'm old enough to have seen prime Jordan in person and I've seen prime Bron in person and I find it comical when they try to compare. Speaking of comedy, it's like trying to compare Kevin Hart to Richard Pryor. And I wasn't a Jordan fan growing up since I've bled purple & gold since Magic's rookie season. The psyche and competitiveness is so vastly different. MJ didn't wanna team up with other All-Stars, he wanted to decimate them. And that's one of the many reasons Wade, Kyrie, Ray Allen, Anthony Davis and Westbrook, who have seen Bron's many flaws up close, pick Jordan as the GOAT.
Even though the other emulate wearing the real 23 number which should have been retired throughout the entire NBA. They should have put a symbol to wear his number retired, a small x, with his airness symbol on any other jerseys with that number on it. As a reminder of who is the greatest of all times was and is Michael Jordan. Now their shouldn't have never been any comparisons to Michael Jordan.
Im not big into sports but lets hear this one, and it was good i like to crunch numbers and stats overall.
MJ was so COLD it made your nose run 🤣🥶
that hit harder than Mike Tyson 🤣🤣🤣
Perfect Analysis! Good Vlog!
I hated Bird when he played because he beat the 76'ers but after he retired I gained a very serious respect for him. Ridiculous player!
Same with Kobe, I never liked him until his retirement season. Then after his passing I looked at him completely different. RIPKB824
Pretty good Video. I would love some of Highlight videoes you where talking about
Great to know one of my favorite content creators, also loves my favorite sport. Would love to see more basketball content!
I wonder how other players other then Jordan stack up against Lebron. Like, is Lebron on Kobes or Birds level? Because if thats not even the case, why is he even mentioned in the same breath as Jordan.
Very true bro
If you saw Jordan play in his era. You know this aint a debate!!!!
keep it up sir. good video
Jordan and his teams never allowed themselves to get in the position to have to come back from a 3-1 deficit in the finals.
Finally the goat debate is over. 💯 Jordan forever...
COOL VID DUDE!!
I am more than 200 percent sure, LeBron James knows that he is inferior to MJ.
I wanna see Shannon Sharpe and Nick right reaction videos for this.
You said it man. "It's Fire"
In advanced stats Jordan is head and shoulders above the rest. PER, WS/48 and BOX plus minus all have Jordan top both in regular season and the playoffs
Something that gets overlooked with LeBron calling himself the goat is that he did it a few days after he called the white NFL owners 'slave masters.' As soon as he called himself the goat, everyone stopped taking about his NFL comment. What a guy!
people should take in to consideration that Jordan's stats would actually be much higher if he didn't come back to play on the wizards
What does lebron do better than Michael AIR Jordan ? Can anybody tell me ?
Well.....
Scoring .
Jordan 30 ppg .
10 scoring titles .
LeBron 27 ppg .
1 scoring title .
So who's better ?
DEFENSE ? Give me a break
Jordan 9 defensive first team
LeBron 5
Jordan - DEF.. player of the year .
-Lebron 0
Assists ? LeBron plays PG for years . Jordan for 3 weeks .
10 straight triple doubles in 11 games . And LeBron only average 1 more assist. 😱😱
Mentally tougher ? Jordan .
Better 3 point shooter in playoffs for their career ? Jordan . Better from Free throws ? Jordan .
Better finisher at the rim , Dunks etc.. ? Jordan.
Steals ? Jordan. Etc..etc..etc..etc..etc.. oh. Most impactful in basketball history ? Jordan.
Both Were given a SUPER TEAM once .
JORDAN ( Bulls 1996-98)
LeBron ( Heat 2011-2014)
Jordan 3 straight Tittles .in 3 tries.
LeBron .2 Tittles in 4 tries
Case closed .
My respect for Lebron was cut by more than half with that comment, not to mention his self-proclaimed kingship.
ITS MJ FOREVER MAN, IS WHAT IT IS LOL - I AGREE with you 100 on the FTs its a disgrace to be called a professional if a kid at the park can out shoot you at FT line with ease. IMO ....
The GOAT should not be defined about who won most NBA finals, it should be defined who won the most MVP's. Or just about the stats itself, because even the MVP awards are given to players from successful season teams only.
it's so amazing to see you react to some basketball videos Adam, if you want a good series of videos to react to I would recommend "Making The Case" by Clayton Crowley, his first series of videos is about the 8 players he sees as having a shot at the title of G.O.A.T., while his second is about the 8 Teams, per single season, that have a claim of being the G.O.A.T.
I concur… Clayton Crowley is a good channel for anyone into basketball. I would also check out Thinking Basketball and Johnny Arnett… both are great. Thinking Basketball is more analytical but both do a good job using stats to tell the history of basketball.
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Lebron is number 1 in turnover and can’t shoot free throws and had to switch teams every 4 years to win titles
I don't want to hear about Lebron James being the GOAT!!! He's NOT even close to MJ, Kareem, Scottie, Magic, Kobe, or Duncan!!!
It's Lebron James, his marketing team & supporters who are helping to write this narrative, so that fans, sports hosts & others will hop on the Lebron James's GOAT-CHEESE TRAIN!!!
If you follow with all the categories they compare with, Kobe is closer to MJ than LBJ, James can be closer to Magic Johnson.
I’m convinced.
There's no comparison.. Jordan is the only goat.
LeBron is just a shadow of MJ.
"developers, developers" I got that.
What i love was even when he said it one of his buddies was shaking his head like .... NAHHHHH
Jordan! It's disrespectful comparing him to Lebron. Lebron with all his superstarteammates and teams was not able to dominate his era. Jordan has two 3peats man! Never lost in the Finals!
Oh, speaking of consistancy. Every full reagular season Mike played for the Bulls (11) are in the top 50 individual best season list, incl. the top place for his 1988 season with a huuuuuuge lead to place 2 (wich is also MJ with his 89 season). Oh, by the way, when you said "it's close" on the PER stats, it's really not, because you have to consider that Jordan played less seasons and still leads.
I have Lebron James in 8th place of the greatest players of all time just after Tim Duncan. I have MJ, Bill Russel, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird. Lebron is so bad on free throws and he has very less clutch gene = no killer mentality like MJ had !!
My top 10 NBA players of all time:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Tim Duncan
8. Lebron James
9. Shaquille O´neal
10. Wilt Chamberlain
When lebron made that comment I almost pissed my pants like does he not remember the 2011 nba finals 😂😂😂
F that, he completely forgot when he literally gave up against Boston
Remember what you said the keyword is you don’t know now you know and looking at you you never see Michael play in his prime you’re too young I’m 56 years old I watch the bulls draft Michael Jordan I was born and raised in Chicago I watch every minute of every game I was blessed to see Michael play live at the stadium and the United center
Jordan is easily the greatest team sport player of all time. Individual sports are different because it's literally all you.
The whole GOAT debate was never a thing until LeBron inserted himself into that conversation. MJ was clearly the better player in both accolades and traditional statistics as well as advanced analytics. Don't believe me...this video proved it out. LeBron in a lot of ways is still a whole HoF career of accolades behind MJ and Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
Yeah !!!! M J , MJ AND OH YEAH MJ !!! .