NEW 2023 Surron ULTRA BEE | First Ride Review & Test
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- čas přidán 14. 01. 2023
- Tucker from Electric Cycle Rider does a first ride review and test ride on the new 2023 Surron Ultra Bee Electric Dirt Bike.
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The Surron Ultra Bee appears that it will bridge the gap between the popular Surron Lightbee X and the full size Surron Storm Bee electric dirt bike.
The Ultra Bee is is producing 12.5kW of peak power, which is double that of the smaller Lightbee. The battery is a removable, 74 volt, 55 Ah battery, totaling a capacity of just over 4 kWh.
The Ultra Bee is suspended by a fully adjustable KKE fork and KKE shock. It’s got 19” wheels front and rear and the bike weighs 187 pounds.
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I'm looking forward to knowing the actual usable range at moderate enduro speed.
If you could dry that battery to the maximum to know operational range and if you can load at 60 fps to make it more immersive, that would be great, you do an excellent job congratulations.
для работы курьером очень хороший. есть съёмный аккумулятор
I've ask someone for their opinion on another channel but I don't think I've gotten a straight forward answer so I still can't decide so I'll like to ask you personally.. if you had a choice between admitjet armor or ultra bee which would it be as a daily mostly street commuter performance and quality wise.. I just don't know which one to purchase atm
We cannot wait to dig into this bike! 21" up front 18/19 MX tire in the rear, Suspension tuning and upgrades, I think we're going to be able to make this an extremely capable bike with fewer mods than an LBX requires for the faster/bigger riders out there!! 2023 is going to be fun!
Agree on that! I wonder if I could swap my 21/18 set up onto it?
Do you think you’ll be able to put a normal mx tyre on the back? Swing arm looks narrower than a full size bike so I’m thinking it’ll run.
Excited to see what you guys come up with!
What power mods might be possible? i heard somewhere its the same motor as a lbx, if so what's possible?
@@ChrisLittle-eu5qq whoever told you that has no idea what they are talking about lol. Not the same motor. Nor the same frame, suspension, brakes, seat, bars, stem or anything else for that matter. The name surron is about all that’s the same.
Always enjoy your reviews Tucker, I bought my first SurRon more than two years ago because of your race video, it was so fun to see you push it across the finish to beat many expert riders after the start in Sport class. Thanks for this and Sur Ron has a great salesman in you.
I've gone from 280 pounds down to 215 pounds so I'm finally under the maximum load for a Surron. Will have to see if I can keep the pounds off for another year and possibly get below 200 pounds before I sink any money in a Surron, but the Ultra Bee does look tempting. Look forward to your review!
I'm 5'11 230 with a talaria sting. Still goes 45 46mph
Nice dude, you can get there just keep doing what your doing!
I’m currently 280 and my Surron does great, I upped the sprocket size to a 58 tooth as well, but I’m hitting the gym hard to try and get to the 220 range I’m sure it would help.
@@HuffDaddySurron yeah but battery drains out quick right
What about battery drain, how many miles?
WOW!! I just love how quiet it is!!
That looks like the almost perfect evolution of the sur Ron. Better mx wheels and factory upgraded suspension options would be my wish.
A filmer would be appreciated. Watching the bike in action, not just the rider POV. Great stuff!
Great job on the video! Thanks for making it.
Awesome! Always enjoy your videos! Can't wait to get mine!
@Ryan Boone Thanks dude! Definitely a bike to look forward to.
Got one on the way. Gonna ride it till the tires bald and put street tires on the stock rims and get the 18"/21" combo with knobby!!!
Looks like the perfect bike! This is what was in my mind when looking for E motorcycles. I can't wait to see one in person. May just order one and take the leap. This is the max weight that I want to be on now days for hard core off road. Thanks for your info.
pre ordered cant wait!!!
Nice first look vid! I'll be waiting for your trail review with further thoughts on suspension and range. I assume you'll compare it to the Freerde E-XC at some point :)
Great review! Sounds awesome, can't wait to hear more of your thoughts on it, especially suspension tweaks, and wheels. Got one on order, the wait is killing me! Ha ha. Will be very interesting to compare it to my Alta, way less power, but way lighter, should be fun to see what its all about on the trails.
Good to see it finally out to the public. Good review brother
Super review, especially about the feel and character of this new-bee, as compared to the prior versions.
Sold. Can’t wait for mine to come in. As always great first/second ride tucker.
I'm ordering one too!
Me 3
Holy cow ! FINALLY !!! 🙌
This platform will be absolutely awesome for mods !
I'm really impatient to see the bike with an enduro wheels set and of course with more poweeeer haha ! I'm curious too to know the weight before and after a new 21/18 wheels set bc the goal is not to come close to the storm bee weight 😅
Looks soooo much better then the other ones
Can't wait to get mine in!
Looks cool but the thing that is great about the Sur Ron X is it being stealth where you can ride it anywhere and super light weight.
definitely the best looking bike by surron
The video on the single trail would be great. Also side by side with a light bee.
Super cool, thanks for the exciting and informative first review. You answered my biggest question already, which is whether or not this thing might be “good enough” on the stock suspension that a shallow-wallet rider like myself might be able to get by with just aftermarket tires, handlebars, and pegs and still end up with a capable off-road machine. Seems like we might finally have a winner there!
Thanks, Tucker, that sounds like an amazing bike, looking forward to your full review, range test and all that other good stuff :)
I wonder how does it compare with Storm Bee? I've just got a deposit on the Storm and I am pretty sure I want the full-size dirt bike, but I cannot stop thinking if Ultra Bee with some mods wouldn't be a better machine.
That thing is a beautiful beast
wow cool ! I tought we would have waited much longer since the anouncement !
@Avenged Sefenvold Luckily we didn't have to wait too long! We'll announce when Ultra Bee's are expected to deliver to dealers when that date becomes more realistic.
Love the videos. This is the bike I was asking for when I got my first SurRon. Time to upgrade.
Thanks for the vid, can't wait for the rest. I'd love to see this in an all round (trail track) comparison to any of the 250 4s or 125 2s as I feel this is a bett comparison to the full-size 450 4s.
XX sold today. Pre-order placed for Ultra 1 hour later.
Hi, thank you for your videos, the ultra bee is really good!! How long did you ride at this intensity please? And how much percentage of battery did you use during this assignment please ?
Great review ! Does the Ultra bee have adjustable suspension for a shorter rider ? will use fro trail riding - Thanks !
Yesssss! Thank you!!
Great stuff. Thanks!
What’s the real range on it?
killer look!I want to watch how it performs on steep,rocky technical trails "Hard Enduro".
Looks like a lot of fun!
Looks very interesting. I ride eastern single track on an Alta EXR,. Is there anyway you can make a comparison to that?
Having all the surrons bikes next to each other to compare would be a nice. Stock but also a modified light bee next to an ultra be with same wheels 18/21
Yes please 🙏
Ultra bee is probably better for the price
@@slick4415 yeah definitely. But More like a dirt bike but less like a mtn bike
I'd love something like this for light off roading. Small, light, torqie (however you spell that) and almost maintenance free. I'd have range anxiety though which I feel like would ruin the fun.
Very intriguing bike. I'm sure you'll cover this in upcoming video but are the wheels beefier than stock light bees and will the swing arm allow bigger tire options? Thanks. Love your work ✌️
Yes wheels are wider and have larger tires mounted to them. Rear swing arm is wider but the limiting factor on surron models with jackshaft is the chain line. The ultra bee has more room for bigger tires then the LBX
Ooo exciting. Do you have any idea on range? I'd race hare scrambles with m Light Bee and the 20 miles of offroad range is barely cutting it. I would think it should get close to double the range of the Light Bee. How is the regen? Can you dial in heavier regen?
Can't wait for an off-road range test. Too bad Rampart is snowed in.....once you have some idea of range, I would love to know your estimated trail range at a fast Enduro pace.
How about comparing it to the Storm Bee setup for proper offroad ?
I am most interested about how it will do at a hare scramble. Please, please, please take it on a 2+ hour hare scramble race paced ride in similar terrain, and elevation changes and see how many miles and minutes it will go on a battery charge.
will the bring a supermoto edition ? that will be awsome!
will you do an update video to the bike? in special for this front end "problem" ?
👏👏GIVE FULL REVIEW THE TRUE OPERATIONAL RANGE IS THE KEY🥵
Do you think the stock fork will deflect off rocks and suck in chunky rocks (single track) like the light bee x does stock?
what no turbo or reverse button like on my storm bee???? ultra bee looks great will have to get one! better than a talaria?
This one looks the most promising so far. Too bad we are not getting the plated street legal version here in the US.
I know your post is 4 months old, but I just wanted to say you CAN get them plated, you just have to get it registered as a "modified vehicle" which will require more extensive inspection.
Can't wait to ride this around town
looking super nice
Wonder if 70/100/19 front and 110/80/19 rear Washougal would help the handling issues Tucker was referring to.
Not a bad offering
Awesome track \m/
Where is your store located? I would love to stop by and film a review for my overlander/camper viewers. This would make for a great RV vehicle. Its small lightweight fast silent-ish and doesnt need gas. I can see this on the back of my 2022 tundra on road trips to overland expo and other camp trips.
LETS GOOO. Finally a good review please compare it to light bee
Compare how?
Its bigger, more powerfull, bigger battery, better suspension, what else you need?
I had a test ride on the Ultra Bee yesterday. Absolutely loved it and ordered one on the spot. I'll pick mine up on Friday and ride it home most likely. It should fit nicely in my stable and complements my Storm Bee quite nicely for even better technical trail riding where the Storm Bee struggles. The only mod I need immediately is bar risers because I'm a tall fellow (6'2" with a long torso). I think the dealer will do that for me but it's a simple change with lots of crossover parts for that purpose.
One nice thing is they are cheaper in Mongolia, probably because China is next door and maybe taxes and other extras are less. My price OTD is $5400 (USD equivalent).
If you had to choose only one out of the storm and the ultra which would you own and why
@@xzavierhaywood2578 For myself, it's too early to tell. I only got a quick ride on the Ultra Bee and I'm supposed to pick it up from the shop tomorrow.
For anybody else, I'd probably lean towards the Ultra Bee because I think it's going to be a bigger hit and will have better support, parts, after market gear etc. I've had difficulty getting parts for my Storm Bee and there's no after market support to speak of.
I think the Ultra Bee will probably hit the sweet spot for lots of folks. Right in between the Light Bee and the Storm Bee at a decent price. I don't think it needs as much modifying as the Light Bee. Probably just a tire upgrade (eventually) and bar risers (immediately) for me.
Within a month, I'll probably have a more definitive answer. It's still too cold and too much snow to ride much yet. Short rides are probably possible.
@@xzavierhaywood2578 Isnt the storm like twice the price?
I just scroll through some of your videos and I've realized the one ebike brand did I have yet to see you ride is Kuberg. Have you ever ridden a kuberg before?
who makes the battery? how much do you weigh (for suspension perspective)
Hello, would it be possible to have a standing start please ?
Would the forks and suspension fit the light bee with? I'm running modded Ron and need more braking power but I dotn want to go to the Extream of putting a, yz 85 front end on
I did see a "dc" something mark on a rubber looking tab on the battery on one of the photos showed somewhere, wondering what that's for?
Are the wheels identical to light bee? What would be widest tires i can fit on it
Thanks for the first impressions! Have to ask how big of a size increase, I have a '19 lightbee, and even with raised bars it feels way too small for me at 6' (long arms and legs and ride XL mtb). Looks like this might "bee" a better fit?
Well the seat is 2.75-3” taller then light bee so should feel a lot less cramped then LBX and the increase in width on the frame should be amazon as well
Can you get a 6’ + mate to sit on it in comparison to a light bee
wonder if the forks will fit the stock LBX
Does this have a primary belt drive like the light bee, or is it a gearbox like the Talaria? I haven't been able to find this info yet.
Is this the international bike with the parts removed, or is this the US bike?
Specifically interested in the charger - wild question, I know. The bike I ordered from China is shipping with the international 220v charger. Is that what you have? If so, will it also work on 60Hz?
Bike looks beautiful. Trim and light. Tucker should run a stock and mod bike. Lets get overall reviews stock before the kitchen sink is thrown at it. A realistic 30 mile single track bike would/will be ace!
But I have a brand new Light Bee (KKE) - a day late and a dollar short... Can't wait to see this bike develop.
Would it be good for slow hard enduro ? Weight is 60# less than my dirt bike .
For the price compared to modded light bees this is the way I’m sure there will be mods for this thing too
One thing it really needs for us MX guys... Foot lever Rear Brakes!!!
Hey im trying to figure out if this bike would be good for taking a passenger for longer range rides
I love Ramm offroad park
The light bee is best compared to a 110cc what would you say is the best ICE equivalent bike? 150r, 150f, 230f, 125 2t?
Off-road range is my largest concern. Being able to do more singletrack miles is my main priority.
Carry extra battery in a backpack
@@MrErichonda30 prefer to see this do over 40 miles on stock battery off-road. Not interested in carrying an extra 18s1p pack.
@@MrErichonda30 you’re not strapping a spare battery on your back 😂
Should be pretty decent for single track flows trails as it has more battery capacity then my 60v 60ah chi battery.
Having owned a modded Lite Bee, as well as being a dealer for Nicot E-beasts I'll have to say that the range is all going to be about the same, you'll be lucky to get 30 miles on single track (depending on the grades). Every e-bike has never met its claimed range. You are looking at 45-60 mins of ride time on avg.
If there is a jump that you barely make on a full charge, at what battery level do you notice that it's no longer doable?
I’ve been considering an electric dirt bike for getting back a little further public land hunting in the west. Has anyone leveraged specific models for this and have feedback on noise levels as well as power/range concerns when carrying an additional 80 lbs pack?
Hey another 5k bike just what we needed.
Gr8 video Man! That bike looks amazing - but - (there's always a but) that battery will be too heavy to lift out in 10 seconds unless you're a cyborg terminator from the future. If I'm not mistaken, the battery looks like two Light Bee batteries fused together which would weigh approx 20 kilos. For me just trying to put my light bee battery back in without chipping the paintwork on the frame is a constant challenge. I don't have the luxury of a garage with electricity so I need to charge my battery indoors and keep the battery inside during the winter. However I'm sure this bike will indeed be a great competitor for similar larger dirt bikes with such a low price!!
Are these available in the uk now or is there a waiting time?
is there an extra battery available that can fit in the charger storage under the seat to extend the range?
wasn't the belt the weak point ?
i see its still there , im a leopard guy but what is the issue with the belt ? slippage with more torque ?
Looks like a good stealthy ripper for where i live
Can you do a comparison with the storm bee?
when are they going to do a road resisted version
ADventure rider here, is there an option that would manage a 450Km daily range on dirt, A full day basically for a tour in between charges. Which option gives best range and weight
I wonder what model KKE forks those are?
so i am thinking about getting a surron light bee x, i’m 14, and just wondering if it’s any good or worth getting? I’m trying to save too get one, many people have recommended it, just need your honest opinion?
What motor is it using? Any chance you can disassemble it?
it would be interesting to compare it with EM
Snow bike conversion options?!
On a normal motorcycle, you rarely use the kill switch (at least on modern and especially keyless bikes). Is that the same for a Surron? Or do you have to go key -> kill switch -> ready switch every time?
Very strange question but if you compair a honda crf 250l and this ultra bee , what bike is better for a weekend and sonetimes daily rider fun bike? This 9000+€ ultra light e-bee or a 4500€ 145kg honda crf 250l? I am currently deciding betwin this two bikes as my do it all fun bikes
Looking forward to the street legal model! Can't beat the price.
My daughter is just getting into rider . I thought about klx 230r beginner bike . She is 5’9 inches 135 pounds and 23 years old. I think the learning curve would be much faster on this? What do you think? Is she to big? . Thanks
How does this compare tot he Admitjet that seems to be more a full size MX bike ?
RAM!! Lol i can still see my sumo tire ruts from last week!
It gives that 125 vibe, but in a good way
Wondering how the Arctic Leopard 800 compares ?
if 74 volt in lifepo4 would be 90 volt if its lithium ion maybe would be 85volt im not sure but 74 sound good enough and its powerful enough ?