Can The World's Most Powerful Electric Dirt Bike Ride Enduro // Stark Varg First Ride
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- čas přidán 10. 02. 2024
- My first ride on the Stark Varg. Claimed to be the most powerful electric dirt bike on the market! We took the Stark to one best enduro venues in the country ( The Mick Extance Experience) to test it out off-road and see how it copes. We're running a motocross setup with 19 inch rear wheel and tubes but we need to test it again with full enduro setup. let's see how it rides in the hard stuff.
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2stroke sound is goat but I must admit I'm starting to enjoy the peacefulness electric bikes bring when riding through the woods and countryside. And that you can just talk to each other is amazing too.
I remember the first time I heard an airplane when I was riding..... My brain had trouble processing the fact that I could hear things and ride lol.
I just got my Varg after a lengthy wait and I can honestly say it’s not perfect, but it’s pretty damn good. My biggest gripes are the overly stiff suspension and painfully hard seat, but those are things you’d change on any other bike. It’s so fast on more open trails and still manageable in tighter singletrack, the lack of a clutch is easy to adapt to once you get used to the power delivery. Some hand guards, tubliss, and a revalve will really have this thing shining. I thought I’d miss the engine noise but it honestly never crossed my mind while I was riding, there’s drivetrain noise and tire noise and wind noise that sort of fills the gap for your senses.
My 300RR is staying here but for most of my riding the Stark will do everything I need and then some.
i think stiff suspension is always gonna be an issue when you use a motocross bike for trail riding
Trail riding for an hour then pack it up and go charge. Sounds fun. I'd rather pay less for a new bike I can ride all day with no down time
@@hondaman3317 everyone whos actually ridden one has said they get tired before the bike does, up to 6 hours of battery on easy trails, an hour going flat out on a motocross track, it lasts as long as you ever really need it to, you'll need to stop and take a break most of the time anyway so having to stop and let it recharge while you have lunch isn't really too bad
@@loz4830 They said in the video they got 3.5HR's out of the Batteries, during their ride. Which are basically standard tough off-road trails you'd expect to ride. I knew it wasnt going to be 6HRs, thats gotta be like literally putting around in the lowest mode for as long as they could lol..
3.5HRs is still a good number for me. Thats a good half chunk of the day, you could use the gas bike first and finish the day off with the electric bikes.
Or you could take a long lunch break (1HR), and use either a wall socket if available obviously or throw it on the generator to probably get half the battery life added back, or even fast charging with 240V and high Amp charging. A normal Generator already has 240V if its a big enough Generato. So it would be able to fast charge it no problem with the right size Generator Wattage rating..
I want one so bad!!!! Hopefully they make an enduro, street legal model.
I think the smell and sound of a two stroke engine are integral to my enjoyment when i ride. Can't beat getting stuck with your pals down a gnarly lane and getting engulfed in the sound and fumes from the exhausts. Absolute bliss! 😂👍
Agreed
True, that's why downhill mountainbiking is so dull!
if i'm going downhill i'd probably rather be on a mountain bike to be honest, but uphill or on a horizontal plane its motorcycle all day 👌@@Erwin-P
@@RaidOffRoad
I actually wrote my reply because a lot of people complain about the lack of noise. But ''silent'' sports like downhill MTB are a as spectacle to watch as any motorsport.
I'm happy to own a Stark and a Beta 250 2 stroke. I love 2 strokes, but love the Stark a bit more.
The lack of noise is somewhat replaced by the drivetrain/gearbox wich when you get used to it is actually pretty good.
The low noise and silent standstill actually makes for good fun when you can actually hear you buddy's.
Other than that, when not taking ICE vs EV out of the equation, the whole bike is just so darn good. The balance, the suspension, the whole ride is sublime.
@@Erwin-P I totally get you. i work with trees and have used 2 stroke chainsaws for 20 years and have just started buying the electric tools in the last couple of years. They're so nice to use, its much more peaceful and you can talk to your workmates at the same time as you're working. Every now and then i have to get the petrol tools out but generally prefer electric now.
I think the starks are amazing bikes and would love to have a go of one but for the riding i like to do at the moment the range wouldn't be quite enough and i wouldn't fancy going out for a days riding with the spare battery on my back. And i'll be honest, i think they would be too powerful for me, my TE 250 is more than enough for my abilities at the moment..... i think a stark would pull my arms off 😂
Seat looks great in black 🖤
Went riding on my mates 80hp model here in Perth WA, in similar style trails/coniditons. Absolutely made my Husky te250 feel inferior... The Stark is so well built, and the power is always there when you need it, no need for a clutch. If i had $20k Aud spare, i would own one tomorrow. All the people who are hating on them, either can't ride or are jealous they can't afford them... 😂 Top video mate.
Same happened to me. its an absolute beast and it was awesome. If they would bring an Enduro Modell with longer Range, i Definitly would buy one. Or even give away my EXC 300 .
But let the Haters hate, till they try one :D
Hi mate also from Perth / also own a te250 / also absolutely like the stark. Rode 2 demo days but yet to ride in some enduro type riding
Owned one for a month. these bikes have a plethora of issues. the list is never ending
Go charge..... I'll be riding.
@@RogerT-kt3zdlike what?
I’ve got one here in Wales. It’s an amazing machine. On faster trails mixed with hillclimbs and a bit of technical I generally get 2.5 hrs before range anxiety kicks in and I get back with about 20/25% left. You won’t find any haters if they’ve ridden one. The build quality is superior to anything else, the suspension too is far better than anything else I’ve ridden and the power is ridiculous and I only run it now at about 40hp. The only things I don’t like is the phone on the handlebar idea as i think it’s too fiddly for me and the weight when lifting it onto the stand and on trails at anything less than 5mph when it feels heavy but after that it feels as light as my old 125. As for the lack of clutch, it cannot be explained easily without riding one but due to the immediate torque and rock crawling type of power delivery I would argue that it simply doesn’t need a clutch but I don’t imagine anyone would believe me unless they rode one. I still think I love my 300 more though……..it just gives me bigger buzz. If I had to sell either the 300 or the Varg then it would be a tough choice but the 300 is staying.
2.5h is too short of a time for some of us, otherwise it is an insane bike
No need to keep the phone in the holder. You can remove it and stick it in your pocket whilst riding. You still can change all modes on the handle bar but without any visual indication. You just feel the difference. Amazing bike
Finally, the moment we’ve all been waiting for!!!!
Seat looks perfect in black! Classic look
Looking fantastic bud, no noise clean pine forest air. Hear the birds n sheep, beautiful 😊❤👊🇬🇧a bet there not cheap
Got my Varg July 2023 and can honestly say that I haven’t touched my TE300i since then.
It’s not perfect in any sense, but it’s really good at everything and it feels really fresh to ride. I actually think that the Varg is a better trail and enduro bike than a MX bike. I miss the clutch in some rare cases, also the sound. But on the other hand, I have stealth bike that I can ride in the woods at home and it’s really easy and fun to ride. You really need to ride it to actually understand why everyone who tries one is so excited.
I think that you should sell your 150 and buy a Varg, keep your 300 for the 4-5h+ rides.
Agreed!
On point. It is as perfect as it any bike could possibly be tho. And like you, I'm not getting rid of my 300 even though it now resides in the house & not the shop. haha
Had my first ride on a Sur Ron Ultra Bee and was seriously impressed too… the Sur Ron is a little lighter and I reckon could be a game changer for Hard Enduro… Definitely think there is a place for electric bikes in the future… Love your videos brother 🔥👌😎
Black seat suits the new bike better than orange. Ive got to lower my seat also, at 5'9' with 30" legs my 24 300xc is a might tall.. one of my buddies has a Suron, its like a mountain bike on steroids! enjoy!
Black seat looks sick
Thanks for an interesting video. After careful deliberation I have also concluded that the black seat looks great on your bike.
Doesn’t need to be people hate them and don’t buy them. Why mass produce something thats only gonna sell a couple thousand
I would probably ride one. For fun like backyard etc etc. But I'm still a gas guy all day. The feeling of being wide open for me and other people hearing that Braapp puts a smile on they're face too. I've seen it. Also would've thought youll talk more about the 19 inch 😅
Love it, wondered when you would get a ride on one of these. Getting a cup of tea and settling in.
Finally the test we needed
Honestly don’t mind. I come to your channel to listen to you. I can watch other riders but your heaps funnier and an electric bike makes it easier to hear you so yeah don’t mind.
Yeah it’s an interesting one , I have tried the Epure electric trials bike and they had a clutch that disengaged motor was good for popping front around. If the varg had this I think would be epic bike 👍🏼👍🏼appreciate your efforts bud
THE KING HAS POSTED AGAIN! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
i would like to be the first person to say this, that is absolutely beautiful country you are riding right there man wish i had somewhere is gorgeous as this to ride!
I am waiting for my Varg to arrive in 5 days at the port of Montreal. They say it takes about 2 weeks to be delivered at home afterwards. I sold my 3 motocross to get this one. I don’t think I am to regret it at all.
I love your commentary I get a good kick out of it don't stop😂
Probably the most impressive bike out of the box! The suspension & handling is a 10... yeah I wish the battery life was better...Todays ride at 35HP I got about 2 hours 100-20% of whooped out fast single track in Florida sand... 35 HP is impressive... 50HP will scare you through the trees, accelerates that fast...
I found out last night that 50hp will spin the back tire with ease on pavement. 35 feels so fast already on these things.
I like that you can order it with a left hand rear brake. I like to cover the levers so it would feel unnatural on the left without a lever.
I think “most” of the people that hate them, are people who’ve never ridden one.
How cool would it be to have a five acre track behind your house within city limits. You could ride during any time of the day or night without anyone calling the cops on you!
A Stark would be a great addition to my collection of bikes, but I’d never be able to sell my gassers!
exactly they’re just letting politics cloud their minds
More and more Enduro Trails are getting closed down due to public pressure on the authorities. So these electric bikes are not only the future of trail riding, they are the ONLY way how we and the next generation will be able to still pursue our hobby / passion.
Coming from mtb and having tried enduro a few times on 450f.... I dont know about motocross, but this definitely seems the way to go. No need to disrupt nature, no vibrations, and most importsntly you can actually hear tyres interacting with the terrain like a mountain bike.
The black looks 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This video was a great real-life look at this thing. I want one badly.
Some notes on your comments about 7 minutes in - your voice isn't annoying whatsoever (I know we all find our own voices off-putting, but don't worry too much about it). It's AMAZING to be able to ride a badass dirt bike while talking calmly, perfectly audibly. Truly awesome.
I’ve got a modded surron & where that struggles is say on a loose rocky steep climb & you loose momentum. To get going with no clutch is tricky as the wheel just spins up. Wonder how the Stark would go in that situation?? Interested if you like it enough to invest in one???? Lot of people rave about the SurRon Ultra-Bee too, can you get access to one of those to try?
From a viewer , I'm missing the sound of the 2t and me laughing every time you stall it 😂
Love your vids. But really really miss the sound of internal combustion.
Hard to beat the sound of a 2 smoker
I love the black seat
Looks awesome, and always felt like loud pipes are out of place in the countryside and the woods so that'd be a bonus for me.
Seat looks great aa is man!
I've been a petrol head since the late 70s, and have ridden off road most days for the past 50 years. I bought an Artisan evo3 and fitted it with 12 inch knobblies, and I loved it to bits. Never knock anything until you've tried it.
You know I was riding the British national champs here (dh mtb) on the same land as the Mick Extance (I apologise for my spelling it’s probably wrong) and I thought it looked familiar, then I saw you riding up the jumps and top of the track at 5:11! Doing this years one too. Great vid, once again, hope you have a good un mate
hello is it the autonomy of the bike that goes up and down in green? That's wird.
I have a concussion disorder, i used to ride a yz125 and yz250. The noise and smell is what made me quite ridding. I would love to try an electric bike.
welcome to the club my friend!
That black seat looks great! Not sure if it’s much lower though. I got one for me 24 TE250 and returned it because there wasn’t much of a difference!
Extremely entertaining video while I got to see the Stark in action lol im sub'd
What kind of trail range or riding time are you noticing with the stark varg on that terrain?
seat looks great in black!
I rode the Varg on an MX-track with the rear brake on the handlebars. As a total beginner on the tracks, it was loads of fun (more fun than the 2t 250 I have ridden). The Varg made me experience the first time hitting handlebars against my helmet. This due to the fact the handlebars came closer to my face than anticipated going over a bump 😅.
Nice video. You are better rider than you let on. That failed hill climb though makes me wonder if all that power can be a liability sometimes in certain conditions. Test rode an Ultra Bee and was disappointed in the suspension and lack of HP after the initial hit so was interested if the Varg could be a good trail bike though heavier and taller.
i rode the KTM electric dirt bike and it's really awesome. It made me look like a much better rider than i actually am and most stuff i usually struggle with felt much easier
that being said i will stick with petrol for now since i just love the smell and noise. i don't care if i'm not as good with my combustion engine bike but for me the feeling is better than with electric
1 orange and black vote, sick combo. Keep the black cover imho.
Love ‘em or hate ‘em, this is the future.
Hate. Toxic, fire hazard, battery life about half of claimed.
Sounds gay.
@@CountCraigula i ll be happy to come back to this comment in 10 years and laugh again 😂
I own a 500 SMR but still, e motorbikes are cool, that's all.
In the future as an option. Don't see them as a replacement. EV cars are the example.
The black seat on the 300 looks sweet.
Sound like a OAP mobility scooter losing traction going up hills :)
Needs a clutch for enduro.
I have an EM ePure Race and this fab I would love to try the EM XR for enduro !
Is that lower seat worth it ? I mean do you really feel the difference( I’m 5’7 😢)
Thanks for the electric bike video, looks super fun, however i did miss the 2 stroke engine sound a lot !
If everyone would be riding bikes like this I bet the image of riders would increase substantially. Not so many people would have a problem with riders in the forests and nature. Less confrontation - more pleasure for everyone. Cant wait for the days when everyone will be enjoying bikes like that.
Your 300 is just a beautiful bike!
There amazing. We had some many race track shutdown cause of the noise . Nobody can ever cant complain for the noise
What about that part where sometimes your hand slips and you accidentally grab the throttle? Since there’s no clutch, does the bike cut power when you grab the brake?
My biggest concern on Enduro and riding remote trails/racing with an EV would be the reliability, range and what would happen if the bike got flooded in water. I think it will be a while before we see an E-bike compete in something like the Baja or Xtreme Enduro...MX is going to be a different story given the short moto times. Excellent Video!
The torque on that thing looks insane
Everybody I’ve seen ride these says the same thing you did: “I didn’t wanna like it but it’s pretty badass.” They are legitimately fun, crazy powerful bikes.
This is true 😂👍 I have a Talaria Sting (Like a big boy bicycle on the road) but on trails it is super fun 😁
When the 2nd or 3rd models go to lighter, longer batteries this will be the entry point for most, keep it 230lb, 260 is a lot for enduro bike. Solid state or enovix silicon lithium. Great start for the industry to push it forward.
Yeah it would be great if it wasn’t for reality and the need for things to exist to make it better.
@@gpaull2 Yeah, wait another 10-15 years and miss out on the fun now. Dumb ass reasoning.
This is awesome
Been an IC guy all my life but a few months ago I got the chance to have a go on an electric trials bike, it was quite addictive if I'm honest, not sure I could choose only electric, but given a dream garage, there would be something electric in there.
Would love to have a try on one of these Stark bikes though.
Sorry if I missed the information in the video, do these bikes have the battery regen brake lever?
When I was on the trials bike, I started on 97% charge, ran around for a good solid 2 hours and finished on 92% because of the regen brake, properly cool bit of kit.
What electric trials bike? I want one.
@@kylewest2826 EM Epure I believe they're called.
Looks pretty good.
Sickkk quad. Is that an actual kawi? Or Ktm with kawi soundmod?
I have yet to find anyone not loving the Stark Varg, I've watched every video I can find on them I feel like, shame I cant afford one! xD
Cool bikes, and I could see the quietness being an advantage in busy and populated areas.
Would hate to unsuspectingly sneak up to a bear on one though. Lol.
Can't afford one of those anyhow. Will have to stick to my good old fun, noisy, urefined, smokey, and reliable, bear and cougar scaring 2 stroke for a while yet!
They need a loud speaker on them that blasts the sound of a real two-stroke.
Love the idea but canceled my order because of too many problems with the bike ... maybe later or even a Honda ebike ... but for now I'm happy with my VMX12!
They are very good understated really as not even one has the means to go to a track or something and u can ride them a lot more place as they don't make loads of noise! And I can imagine they don't need as much maintenance!!
Black seat for sure!
sick trail!
i love your vids bro!
What hp and engine braking were you riding it for 3.5 hours?
What's the resale value on them and how do you fix it when it breaks
Great video and beautiful riding area! Sounds like the electric dirt bike has a lot of advantages, but needing.to keep a spare battery ($$$) on hand would be a deal breaker. Maybe someday in the future when range is greater.
I don't know ... usually 3.5 hours riding trails and Enduro will require a day or two of rest after for me. Everything will hurt like a Mofo. Maybe I'm just not ride fit enough. 😅
Maybe orange on the sides for the seat and great vid as always
The young lady is Beast Mode on the Varg!
Nice job
Awesome ❤🤙
Black seat is dope
Would love to see you put in the high power mode and hold it open on the fire roads
we need a 80hp stark varg on the channel! be sick as hell
not as sick as a 2 stroke
@@HuffyBoi_952 i agree but it’s a nice change of content from time to time im all for a 2 stroke 🙂
I’m with u I hate the idea of electric bikes but they kind of look fun
I want one so badly. I road my friend’s bike and I feel in love
I don't think I'd ever buy one but I got to test ride one down a gravel road and back for like 5 minutes and it's impressive. Would be great for inner city motocross tracks where noise is a problem. Need an electric pro race class.
Electric bikes are PERFECT for trail riding and riding places where you'd normally get the cops called on you. Now all those Karens will have no idea you are even out there.
Black seat looks good.🤙🙏💯✌️👊🇺🇸👍✊
Nice review a quick walk round with bike would have been good.. Wow a weird sound though 😬
👍 on the black seat
Good video. But please do more 150 videos. Curious on how capable it is before I buy as a second bike
3.5 hours on a battery!! Lets go!! I really want one for night riding!
Better battery and a clutch, I'd buy one tomorrow 😮
Looks pretty cool! Would be able to get away with riding in a lot more places too haha! Been a while since I’ve checked into your channel… if I’m honest I thought you may have been abit better at riding by now 🙈 atleast popping the front wheel up abit more over things and not dropping it on pretty easy corners 😅 anyways looks awesome! Very jealous!
Nothing changes here buddy 🤣
Nice in Black 👍👍
Sooooooooooo, Mr Midwest I have a question. All my life (53) I have suffered with numbing hands. Four stroke 2 stroke on road off road it matters not. I am hoping that this Varg has zero vibration due to not having an engine. What do you know brother? Does it have any hand numbing vibration? I currently ride a tricked out FE350. Thanks for any info.
The only vibration is natural. So over rocks etc but the suspension is really good
I would miss the noise, but i can see the advantage of stealth quiet for riding certain places
hi ive been watching your videos for some time now and im wondering if your could help me out because i want to get into the sport but i don't have an idea for how much i should spend im 5,9 and 14 years old ive never rode a bike with a clutch so if anyone could help me out with what bike or what kind of budget i should plan for would be muchh appretiated
Great I loved mine sold it and made money ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Black seat looks good on the 350 breaks all the orange up
Man where is this area? It's beautiful out there!!