The Complete Guide to Installing Tile on Shower or Bathtub Walls
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- Ultimate guide on how to install tile around your shower or bathtub. Learn the entire process in one concise (although long) video.
--Contents of this video -------------------
00:00 - Intro
00:53 - Diagram of shower wall components
04:29 - The best way to waterproof a shower wall
07:46 - How to demo old tile
09:24 - How to prep your shower walls for tile
12:35 - How to install Kerdi-board or other tile backing board
17:08 - How to water-proof your shower walls using Kerdi-band
20:57 - Planning the tile layout
25:27 - Installing the ledger board
26:09 - Mixing and applying thin-set mortar to the shower walls
27:49 - Laying the first rows of tile
29:18 - Aligning tile on all three walls
30:13 - Installing tile around windows or niches
31:39 - Tiling around the tub
33:00 - Grouting the tile
34:00 - Caulking the tile walls
First, I'll show a diagram of a tile installation in a shower so you understand all of the components on a shower wall. Then, I'll talk about different ways to waterproof the walls before laying tile. Waterproofing the walls in your shower before laying tile is extremely important.
Once I've covered how a tile shower wall is constructed, we'll move on to the demo. I'll walk you through prepping the shower walls for tile. This includes removing the old tile and bathtub and then flattening the walls and making sure they are plumb and level.
The next thing I'll cover is installing the tile backer board and waterproofing the tile. I'll be demonstrating using Kerdi-board and Kerdi-band, but the process is the same even if you use cement board.
Next, I'll cover how to lay out the tile so it looks like a pro did it.
And finally, I'll show you how to install a ledger board, mix the thinset, and start applying your tile. I'll even cover a few ways to cut the tile.
Then, we'll go over grout and caulking to finish off the shower.
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Truly, the most comprehensive, attention to detail, easy to follow instructions. Awesome job! Now, if only I had not tuned into this so late into the project…😮
Just letting you know. This week I followed these step-by-step instructions to completely re-tile my shower/bathroom walls and the result came out incredible! I've never tiled before, installed kerdi membrane and 3*12 subway tiles, and it came out better than most contractors I'm sure! I only bought a few small tools: Tile cutter, angle grinder, ceramic drill bits, trowel/float etc.
I just want to say thank you. Not only did I save $, but learned a new skill!
Great video ... I am a general contractor, never afraid to learn from others, I really enjoyed the time you took to explain this, it helped me teach my team!
Excellent Training video! No BS! So Detailed! Thanks Dan!👍
Excellent video!!! I love that you went into greater detail in certain areas than your 1st time lapse video.
This video included numerous bits of useful info that some other well made videos I've watched lacked. Well done.
Fantastic video, length is well worth it as it is jam packed with efficient content - no BS!
Thank you, actually found a video that addressed exactly what I needed other than not wanting to use the kurdi board
One of the best videos on shower install with waterproofing. I've seen hundreds.
One of the most complete, organized and easy to understand.
Nice explanation of industry terms like thinset and "plumb"
I watched about 8 hours of install videos and yours is by far the best
Another great video, great job all around, definitely learned some tricks and discovered products I know will make a difference. Keep it up!!
Dan the man! As always well done. Dan's Handyman StartUp and the advanced program has helped my Business and my personal life. Thanks Dan!
Very informative, clear and easy to follow. I'm remodeling my bathroom now, thank you!
I'm in debt to your most details and step by step in this tiling tutorial. It was the most awesome tutorial I ever watch. Much appreciate. Best of luck with your upcoming video as well as your career.
Not just a talented "handyman" but talented producer, director, editor, video host and instructor as well! Very nicely done, best instructional videos on the web!!!
Great work man!!
Thank you very much for this information. It’s been really helpful. Great work my friend!
I really appreciate this. I have a semi retired elder contractor, so thought I would just pay a contractor who was younger, or had a small team. My bathroom is small, in a blue collar neighborhood and the 2 quotes i got were both labor only, one for 30k, the other for 18k. No one involved would be doing the labor, and all i was given was information for a boutique bathroom suply store the company works with. Everyone but the people doing the work get their share. I get flipping houses is popular, work is in demand, but damn I'm just trying to upgrade my 1970s bathroom. So, I'm watching your videos, so I can keep an eye on my older contractor, and gave him my 26 year old to do any heavy lifting, and my son gets to learn as it goes.
Looked a while at different videos explaining how to tile a bathroom, yours is by far the most clear, detailed and agreable to watch. Thanks and keep up the good job!
Thanks Dan Perry! 👍
I love your program, it sounds like an engineer to do analyze before taking action
Great video, I’m a total novice and I’ll be following this to a tee! 👍🇦🇺
These are excellent videos!
You are a verbal teacher to explain your work
My new favorite channel! THANK YOU for putting out the effort to explain every little detail.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The diagram of the layers is what I was looking for. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Glad to finally see a video of a shower remodel with a window in it! That was my hardest hurdle, trying to figure out what to do around the window.
Hopefully this answered your questions.
Thank you so much for this video! On the final step of caulking after a few weeks of work, came back to this video every time.
Great job!
👍 Appreciate that you explained how to plan the layout & offered other tips to make the finished project look more professional!
Glad it was helpful!
thank you for this video
This is the best tiling video I've seen yet-and I've watched a lot of them. Great work, Dan.
Wow, thanks!
This was so good! I am so glad we watched this before jumping into this project. It actually helped us decide to wait until we know we can dedicate the time, and funds we want to make our bathroom last! VERY GREAT VIDEO
Glad it was helpful!
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Awesome demonstration
Thank you!
Dan, this is the best video on the web for step by step install! Not only was your install clear, but the fact that you added information regarding the supplies needed was so helpful! I already watched your tutorials on the different tile cutters and time lapsed install. I will continue to watch the grout tutorial, and this one multiple times for my install. Watching your videos has given me the confidence to try it myself - thanks so much!!
Your welcome!
Excellent video I really like the detail that you put into this.
Glad you liked it!
Very, very clear instructions with virtually nothing missed. Well done! Next one should be the RedGuard version. :-)
Great suggestion!
I love the detail and explained process. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Glad you liked it!!
I've been a DIYer for years, been anxious about replacing the bathtub and tiles, but it's not as bad as I was thinking. Super excited about my next project. Great video, very informational. I made lots of notes!
It’s a tough project. As long as you give yourself ample time and don’t rush, you can do it.
again, great video
Not much to say except that your presentation is clear, concise, and superior to anything else out there. Just found you and happy to be a new subscriber. PS: Happy New Year.
Happy New Year and thanks for taking the time the comment!
That was great man.. Excellent content and well done.
Thanks, so glad it was helpful
Thx for the step by step tutorial. I also visited your website to take advantage of the resources for starting your own handyman business. This will prove very helpful. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge of business, this day in age, seems like its every person for themselves but you really care about helping others! Blessings to you + your future plans.
Great 👍
Great Video Awesome Work
Thank you very much!
You are the best !
I have watched alot of these type tiling videos and so far your video explains most of the process the best. I have done alot of floor tile but never any wet areas like a shower due to worrying about water leaks but am starting to think I can pull this off. While I think I am still leaning towards using cement board due to cost. I really appreciate all your info. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
I think this guy is great! Thanks for the excellent video
Glad you liked it. Thanks for the words of encouragement!
Great video, lots of good info. The only thing that looks bad is the corners, you mirrored the cuts instead of following the pattern. On the back wall side cuts meeting side wall cuts, you should of matched a big cut to small cut, not big cut to big cut. Where it looks wonky is the 2 small cuts meeting together . Besides that really good job
Magic vid mate spot on
Thanks!
Great video! Cheers!
Thanks!
fantastic video!
Thank you very much!
Awesome job
Thanks!
Amazing
Best part of my day-finding your videos! thank you Dan!!
My pleasure!!
Well done!
Thanks!
hi great video. How wide was the 1x's you used for the top of the tub so the first tile could rest on. I am using 3x12 subway tiles and want to make sure that first row is perfect. thanks
First time on the channel and only 30 sec. In but I like the idea of complete guide unlike 90% of CZcams videos that leave you more confused after watching
That was the reason I created this video
Amazing! This is almost exactly my bathroom setup. I have been struggling with how to figure out the window and you have saved me. What tub did you use for this job?
Nice work I do this for a living
Thanks!
Great instructional video. Personally use a cross line laser level to align the tiles horizontally and vertically.
Yes those are preferable. Most diyers don’t have one of those.
This video is very help ful ...nice
Glad it helped
@@StayHandy thanks a lot *****
Good video bro. I'm planning on doing my shower with 6 "x 24" . What size of trowel can you recommend for that size?
One more time ...nice video
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
good stuff
This is exactly the video I needed. My dad started a project when I was like 16, moved out, and I haven't had a bathtub since. I'm now 31 (31!) and dammit I'm doing it myself
Excellent and incredibly thorough video. I really appreciated the time and effort it took to shoot, edit and actually do the job!. QUESTION: If you were going to tile the ceiling too would you do that before or after doing the walls?
I would do it before so I could be less accurate with my cuts on the ceiling.
Really awesome channel man. I was a handyman before I became a fireman. Not as skilled as you but kinda miss those days I wonder if I could have grown that business if I stuck with it
You definitely could have! It's a proven business model. Just follow best practices (which my HandymanStartup.com) teaches you, and you'll be able to make very good money consistently.
@@StayHandy my best trades are painting, finish carpentry, drywall/ plaster repairs. I’m redoing my 1950s bathroom all by myself so picking up more skills. Love learning new things. I’ll check out more of your content for sure brother thanks
First off, I love your videos. They have helped me a ton so far, thank you! I just have a question about the caulk at the bottom, between the tile and tub. If water does get behind the tile, would it be stuck in the wall as it drains down because of the caulk line? I thought the reason for the cement board going over the flange was for this type of draining. I may be overthinking this. Can you clarify this?
I see your point and honestly don't have a good answer. I think if any water does get trapped behind the caulking, it will be very minimal and won't get to the wood framing. If you don't caulk, then I think more moisture will get behind the wall. Again, I'm not sure, I just know that this is how it's done.
I am using Hydro Ban and was told that the board goes over the flange... My issue is how to get walls flat for tiling? I have seen several ways how to do this from shims, to Ferring strips to sister studs. What do you suggest.... I
Been 2 months so I’m sure you’ve already figured out your solution… I’ve spent hours trying to figure this out as well. It seems that everyone is pretty staunchly divided between these two scenarios and it’s nearly impossible to find a consensus. The waterproof hardi board I bought specified setting the board over the flange with 1/4” gap, but I’m not keen on furring all of the studs so I’ll be going with setting on top of the flange.
I did see someone make a good point though. By caulking the tile to the bathtub, which nearly everyone ultimately does regardless of difference in installation method for backer board, you aren’t really allowing any accumulated moisture drain out that way anyway. At that point you have to rely on water escaping the way it came out, ideally - the same way it got in through grout and tile.
I’ve given up on trying to figure out which backer board configuration is best and my goal will just be to try and make sure whatever water does get behind the tile doesn’t go beyond the backer and flange threshold and into the framing…
@@WExALLxSHINExONx69 hey man, thanks for the follow up! I actually did a little of both. I notched the bottom of the cement board out a little so it was kinda on top of the flange and overlapping it. I saw a couple of guys do it and it saved me from having to shim a bunch. It turned out excellent. Thank you so much for your videos. You saved me a ton of money and I learned so much!
Great video. Question: Water migrates through the thinset, down to the tub lip. How does such water get out past the tile-to-tub caulking? Is it able to migrate through the caulking? If not, wouldn't water start collecting on the tub lip behind the caulking?
Concrete backer board is WAY cheaper but other then the Kerdi sponsorship good video.
This is such a useful video, thank you! I'm feeling much more confident about my upcoming project. I'm curious, though: would it work to do all the planing/shimming after the new tub is installed, rather than before? (I ask because I won't be doing the plumbing myself and I want to be able to schedule things around the plumber rather than vice versa).
Yes you could do it that way.
Could you please do a video installing floor tile
谢谢
Great video, but I would like to see how the interface between the nitche and the frame was sealed.
Excellent video - thank you. Just one question/clarification. Do you not use any grout in the wall corner lines and where the tile meets the tub? It looks like you leave that gap open during the grouting process and fill it afterwards entirely with one of the three caulking products. Please confirm. Thanks again.
No grout in the inside corners. Use a colored caulking that matches the grout there.
I watch a lot of DIY videos and have to say this was a very good one. I particularly like the white board illustrations with the cut-a-way views. Very nice touch. Again, having watched many tile installation videos, I was hell bent on using backer board and RedGard. However, after watching this I may give the Kerdi a shot. Thanks for the great video. Well done.
One question I have... If for some reason someone wanted to extend the tile on the valve wall out past the shower area and tile the whole wall behind a vanity etc. Where would you stop the "water proofing system"? At the same spot as where the dry wall would traditionally start? Or for safety sake, would you just go ahead and water proof the entire wall (obviously adding some cost especially if using Kerdi)?
I would only use kerdi where you see constant moisture (shower). Tile will protect a wall from occasional splashes or spills just fine. Save your money.
Question - the back wall behind my tub....the center is 1/8 inch higher than it is on the ends. So if I leave 1/8th for grout and try to do full tile at the top...my gap will be about 1/4 in the center. Does this mean i need to rip/shave these top tiles to make it a tighter fit? Hope that makes sense. Thanks.
Loving your videos bro, let’s collab sometime.
Hi Dan, I've embarked on the Turn Your Skills Into Profit journey and I have to say it is really speaking to all the questions and fears rattling around in my brain. I'm curious, how did you learn to tile? Thanks!!!
Great to hear! I learned by watching CZcams videos, asking local tile people for tips, and just doing it.
How to get walls flat for tiling? We all know how everything is squared right.... I have seen several ways how to do this from shims, to Ferring strips to sister studs. What do you suggest.... I am going to use Hydro Ban system by Laticrete... Its more in my price range and this is a upstairs bathroom that gets very little use.
Hey Dan! Awesome video as always. I am worried about taking on some tile jobs for only one reason: being able to find matching tiles for specific repairs. Have you had any problems with that?
I think not being able to find matching tiles is just the way it is. Nobody, regardless of how much experience is going to be able to find perfect matching tiles for a repair every time. Even if they could, how can a pro justify searching high and low for tiles? As long as you communicate to the customer in advance that you may not be able to find a perfect match, you are good. Communication is the key to solving problems like this.
Or even better, make the customer go find the tiles.
@@StayHandy thank you!
Great video. Any chance of showing the process for a tile and/or stone floor rather than using a tub? Thanks again!
Maybe in the future!
Hi Dan I have a question.. Im doing the same tile job now, but the tiles are 10x20 cm, so, I noticed you cut a vertical 1/3 of the tile at the corners, then you cut vertically half at the latera-end area... I dont know if I should cut them all at vertical half, including the horizontal half cut of the bathtub - wall meet.. what do u recommend?...thank you!
I'm not sure what you mean.
Hello, thank you for the video. It's very well done. I'm curious about the tub removal, is this step necessary? Does it depend if my tub is level or not?
Again thank you for your efforts. I appreciate it
If the tub is in good shape and there are no plumbing issues or leaks, then you can leave it in.
@@StayHandy thank you for the quick reply. Hope you have a great day.
I noticed you ran the tile trim on the dry wall a little bit. I’m thinking of doing something similar before I do a tile job around the bathtub.
However, I’m using a cement board instead of the Kerdi board. You think it’ll matter? The cement board is a little thinner (0.42 thick) than the 1/2 drywall.
It will probably have a bump if the surfaces aren’t flush. Depending on the size of the tile it may not be noticeable.
Question. You started installing your tile above the ledger board because it's a perfectly level surface, and the tub isn't. But how did you then determine how to cut the tile just above the tub? How do you cut it knowing it isn't level? Do you just pick a height of the tile and hide the fact that some gaps between tile and tub are uneven with caulk, or do you cut the bottoms so they run parallel to the slope of the tub?
Ideally you will cut them so the gap between the tub and tile is about 1/8 to 3/16”. Of course you can also just cut them all the same size and have a slightly bigger gap in places, it just won’t look quite as good. Just do your best and take your time.
How would you tackle a project to convert shower/tub to shower only? Would you use a prefabricated shower base?
Thank you,
That is the easiest way to go.
Isn’t the 1/8 by 1/8th kerdi brand trowel square notched?
What depth aluminum schluter rail did you use???Im in between sizes and your tile same I have. And yours looks really flush, so I believe I need the same depth length as yours. Thanks!
Go with your tile thickness plus half the thickness of whatever trowel size you are using, then round down to the nearest size. So if the tile is 1/4” and you’re using a 1/4” square notch trowel, then you’ll want a 3/8” profile height. If they don’t have 3/8”, then round down to 5/16”.
do you back butter your subway tiles... i'm asking because we are in the middle of a shower install and have been back buttering our subway tile its taking a long time. its also been difficult to keep them flat on the surface..any tips to keep them all flat all the way across? saw something online about using a 2x4 covered in carpet to press them all to keep them level with each other... appreciate any advice..
Your best bet is to have a flat surface to install them on. Not sure if you saw the part about flattening the walls. I did not back butter most of the tiles, just a few as needed.
at time 8'40 " what name of the tool you use? plz Dewalt what name of the saw is that ? thanks
The math portion of this is throwing me through loops. Do you have a video that explains how to find stack height more indepthly?
Sorry I don't. This does take a bit of time to figure out, but if you don't like math then just go with bigger tiles.
@@StayHandy Right on. We already have bought the 3x6 subway. Do you know of any resources that explain this stuff? I've looked all over. Your explanation and videos are fantastic. If you could just explain the layout and measurements a bit more I would be golden. Thanks for your response.
Maybe I’ll do that in a future video. Thanks for the idea.
So if you use the redgard do you still need to use the orange plastic waterproofing stuff? Or would I just paint the redgard on my boards?
Just paint the redgard on the cement board. But you will need to use mesh tape first to seal the seems.
Pause at 30:44 - those tiles at the back of the niche are pretty rough. Those grout lines would get me fired from the job. Also, polishing the edge of cut tiles (especially if they're exposed) gives you a much cleaner install look at well. Every job I do is flawed so I'm not picking on you. We're all trying to achieve perfection in an imperfect world. Tile leaves zero room for error. Good video, solid advice. May all of your jobs improve in quality over time
Thanks for watching and commenting. I agree with everything you’ve said. The tiles in the niche are just slightly crooked which is my biggest mistake.
What fasteners should be used installing the Kerdi board over a Masonary wall with furring strips?
I’ve never done that, but I’m assuming the same screws need to be used. Check with schluter and maybe they have another fastener.
Any reason for not using more of the Dilex product? I want to use it instead of corner caulk and caulk around the tub
I think silicone is all you need. Also, some grout manufacturers make 100% silicone to match the grout color. That’s the best way to go.
What tile did you use for this project? I'm looking for a white subway tile.
I don’t remember the manufacturer unfortunately. I would recommend getting samples and just make sure they are decent quality. The first ones I got were low quality so I returned them and purchase these instead.
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what if i'm also needing to replace a window in the shower?
Hi, where did you get the corner transition corner tile on the niche trims? Thanks
It’s made by schluter. You can buy it online or at a tile store.
Where are you located? I would hire you to remodel my bathroom!