Dyno Testing a Mondello 455 Olds Big Block - Horsepower S13, E8

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  • čas přidán 25. 09. 2019
  • After launching their classic Olds 455 engine build at the home base of "Dr. Olds", Joe Mondello - Joe and Mike finish their buildup and test results on the engine dyno. Plus, another budget-friendly tech tip.
    PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
    Accel: ACCEL U-Groove performance spark plugs, Advance curve kit, Adjustable vacuum advance.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_11195
    ARP: Head bolts, Rod bolts, SB Chevy accessory kit, Main studs, & Harmonic balancer bolt
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6591
    Centerforce: Steer Flywheel
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_11191
    Comp Cams: XE284H, Xtreme Energy Hydraulic Flat Tappet Camshaft, Hydraulic-Street / Strip, needs 9:1 comp. 2800+ stall, headers, gears, rough idle. Pro Magnum┬Щ Hydraulic Lifters; Olds (V8 260-455) Pontiac (V8 326-455). Both have been infused with Pro Plasma Nitriding Treatment.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6590
    Comp Cams: Ultra-Gold Rocker Arms; 7/16" Stud, 1.6 Ratio (16).
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6592
    Dupli-Color: Universal Gold engine enamel.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6589
    Dupli-Color: Red and Grey Vinyl and Fabric Coating.Touch-up repair prep wipes.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6588
    Edelbrock: 77cc Performer RPM aluminum cylinder heads.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6587
    Edelbrock: Performer Olds 455 aluminum intake manifold.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6586
    Hedman Hedders: 1 3/4" to 3" long tube headers
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6585
    Holley: 870 cfm Street Avenger carb.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6580
    Loctite: Sealants and thread locking compounds
    More Info: ttps://pntv.us/pb_pt_6579
    Moroso: 8.25" Deep Gold Iridite Oldsmobile oil pan and pickup, 7qt.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6583
    Mr. Gasket: Ultra-Seal Overhaul Gasket set.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6582
    Percy's High Performance,Inc.: SPLIT-LOCK Fasteners - Header Bolts - Black Oxide
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6570
    Pioneer Inc.: Harmonic balancer.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6581
    Royal Purple: Royal Purple Break-in Oil.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6574
    Summit Racing: Carburetor, Summit, 750 cfm, Square Bore, 4-Barrel, Manual Choke, Mechanical Secondary.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6573
    Summit Racing: 750 cfm Quadrajet electric choke
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_11190
    CFR Performance: Tail Chrome Valve Covers
    Mondello Tech Center: Machining of block surfaces, align hone crank mains, hone cylinder bores, resize rods, balance rotating assembly, polish crank journals, port cylinder heads, valve angle grind, deburr block casting, install and measure bearing tolerances, install oil restrictors and oil galley plugs, modify timing set, file piston rings and degree camshaft.
    Mondello Tech Center: Heat Seeker II-Engine oil additive to eliminate heat & friction during initial break-in of new performance engines.
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Reman. Distributor, Rotor Button, Cap, Capcover, Ignition Coil
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Distributor Hold Down Clamp
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Valley Pan Gasket
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Valve Cover Gaskets
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Head Gaskets (2)
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Hydraulic lifters (16)
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Heater hose 1Ft., Elbow
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Rotella 10W-30
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: 1030W O'Reilly Motor Oil (8)
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Dupli-Color Vinyl and Fabric Dye (gray)
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Vinyl and fabric dye
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Prep Wipes (2)
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Cloyes Timing Set
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Water Neck
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Water pump.
    Pertronix: Patriot Exhaust Products recently introduced the VaraFlow muffler featuring SFI Technology.
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Komentáře • 894

  • @PowerNationTV
    @PowerNationTV  Před 4 lety +60

    We'll continue to post these episodes here on CZcams. If you can't wait for the rest of the build, visit our site to binge-watch: www.powernationtv.com/shows/horsepower

    • @luvspus69
      @luvspus69 Před 4 lety +2

      Paint the waterpump to match the engine.

    • @djhaloeight
      @djhaloeight Před 4 lety +2

      loving these episodes! keep them
      coming!

    • @JohnSmith-vq2sy
      @JohnSmith-vq2sy Před 4 lety +2

      PowerNation what are the cam spec?

    • @jlo13800
      @jlo13800 Před 4 lety

      How about a big block 2 stroke olds:www.4btswaps.com/threads/turning-4stroke-into-2-stroke.12888/#lg=thread-12888&slide=0, Thats a sbc but an aluminum olds drce should work for a 2 stroke conversion.

    • @bigsur175
      @bigsur175 Před 4 lety

      The 455 is not supposed to be gold it's supposed to be blue

  • @MsMatttheman
    @MsMatttheman Před 4 lety +180

    I remember growing up watching these show. So glad they are posting them to youtube now

    • @Edgar-Friendly
      @Edgar-Friendly Před 4 lety +10

      People are cutting out cable but keeping internet. CZcams is where the people are, and these videos will make more money with ad revenue than they used to make selling the DVDs.

    • @mrincredible5492
      @mrincredible5492 Před 4 lety +11

      Think it was on sundays for me good times my pop's and i would watch them eating breakfast in the living room.

    • @MsMatttheman
      @MsMatttheman Před 4 lety +7

      @@mrincredible5492 It was the same thing for me. Dad was the bread winner so when we did get a chance to spend time together this was it on Sunday mornings

    • @vitopher2944
      @vitopher2944 Před 4 lety +3

      When were these filmed?

    • @BADD400
      @BADD400 Před 4 lety +1

      Vi Topher most 10 years ago

  • @GospelTenor4Christ
    @GospelTenor4Christ Před 4 lety +43

    I miss Joe, he was a legend.

    • @jasonhall8706
      @jasonhall8706 Před 3 lety +4

      I went to his head school out in California back in 99'. Joe was a straight shooter with a ton of knowledge and the shop was beautiful. "Keep it moving" he used to say!

    • @michaelhorgan9525
      @michaelhorgan9525 Před 2 lety +1

      His son Bernard has his own shop now in Corona.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Před 9 měsíci

      @@michaelhorgan9525 anyone take over Joe Shermans shop? Another legend gone

  • @07terrapin
    @07terrapin Před 2 lety +14

    Jet boat applications proved how tough the Olds 455 and Ford 429/460 motors are, run wide open from one end of the lake to the other. Saw quite a few BB Chevys scatter trying to do the same. We used to say the best marine application for a Chevy is use it for an anchor!

    • @optimusprimer4392
      @optimusprimer4392 Před 7 měsíci

      Hate to break it to you it's not the motor it's the Builder and operator

  • @derrick1125
    @derrick1125 Před 4 lety +21

    It's always good to see some people still enjoy a great motor, can't beat an Olds 455

    • @danmyers9372
      @danmyers9372 Před 4 lety

      Derrick 112 - Old boat refer to the Olds 455 as boat anchors. Sorry, but it was a pig of an engine. Decent torque but very low hp for the cubic inches.

    • @derrick1125
      @derrick1125 Před 4 lety +4

      @@danmyers9372 hp don't matter. It's the pull. Got a 68 olds that is amazing. As factory it's torque 500 lbs. Has more then any factory 454.

    • @karaDee2363
      @karaDee2363 Před 2 lety +3

      @@danmyers9372 I don't care what old boat says, the olds 455 was the engine of choice in high-performance jet powered boats. I've seen a stock olds 455 blow the doors off supercharged Chevy 454 in the same exact make and model jet boat... jet boats need torque, not horsepower

    • @sammendoza7168
      @sammendoza7168 Před 2 lety

      @karen fyhr 😂😂😂😂 you’re out of your mind

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets Před 2 lety +5

      @@danmyers9372 Nah... My N/A Olds 505" engine makes 730h.p., 670ft-lbs, pulls hard to 7100-7200 RPMs, and has docile street manners. In fact, the engine is somewhat of a compromise to make it more street friendly, and would make even more power with a cam swap and a larger carburetor.
      Pig? Boat anchor? Hardly...
      The car it's in absolutely SMOKES many unsuspecting Chevy's with "boat anchor" B.B.C's in them. I Made a 540 Chevelle look like a 4 cylinder a few weeks ago. When I opened my hood for him after the race, he was speechless. He thought I was seriously joking when I told him there was an Olds motor under there with 35 less cubes than his.
      If somebody's Olds is a "pig" or a "boat anchor", or they can't successfully make one work, then they have no idea what they are doing with it. It's as simple as that.

  • @chrismigl27
    @chrismigl27 Před 3 lety +5

    Had to add a comment to get away from that evil number. RIP Joe you are definitely a legend and pioneer for us Olds guys

  • @Blacked_OutMedia
    @Blacked_OutMedia Před 3 lety +3

    So just found out that at 16 years old my grandfather has a 1967 Olds 442 with the 455 rocket in it rotting into the ground with a tarp on it. I’m gonna take it and build it over these next few years and have my dream car

  • @steve19745
    @steve19745 Před 4 lety +22

    joe taught me a lot i used a lot of his information to build a 468 olds reworked the quadrajet with one of joes kits made a bit over 600hp and almost 600ft lbs of torque it looked almost stock that was 27 years ago damm i miss those days i put that motor in a 71 chevelle it was quite the combo a 455/468 in a chevelle i can say id invest in head studs and a gear drive for this build ! if this motor doesnt get 700hp you guys need to go back to the drawing board ! nice parts

    • @juliennacer8871
      @juliennacer8871 Před 3 lety +2

      I doubt it made that kind of power with a stock bottom end.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Před 2 lety +1

      Only made 455 HP from a 461"...

    • @johnplato4976
      @johnplato4976 Před 2 lety

      Yes, a .060 over 455 equated to 468. Joe did sell stroker kits/combos good for 480+ c.i. Some were sold as motor home upgrades using the original GMC 230 & 260 designated chassis. Since the majority of Olds 455 blocks were limited to .060 over bores, the stroked versions gave a still under square engine for lower rpm torque.

  • @timothythomas8024
    @timothythomas8024 Před 4 lety +41

    Hogging out the heads then putting on a untouched intake has me scratching my head.

    • @ethanhessong3033
      @ethanhessong3033 Před 4 lety +3

      Not to mention that the intake is pretty low profile

    • @makingcash4life
      @makingcash4life Před 3 lety +1

      Not to mention a flat tappet cam. My goodness these guys probably left a good 100 horse on the table with a solid roller cam and a port match high rise intake.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Před 3 lety

      HP peak way down at 4700 RPMs has me scratching my ass... no sign of cam spec.s...
      Near stock Performer intake on hyper Performer RPM heads...

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Před 2 lety

      OK... Look closely 00:47 re-using stock flat tappet cam... 4700 RPMs HP peak...

    • @johnplato4976
      @johnplato4976 Před 2 lety

      Back in the early days of 455 building, there wasn't alot of choices to go with. Edelbrock had the O4B dual plane, a step up from the stock c i. intake & Offenhauser had a tunnel ram & a single/ dual quad version which helped airflow to the c.i. stock A-F heads. Mondello was THE king of Olds heads modifications to help make those intakes to work.

  • @jimcatanzaro7808
    @jimcatanzaro7808 Před 2 lety +4

    This is why the 442 was a hemi killer back in the day

    • @BigUnk85
      @BigUnk85 Před měsícem

      🧢🧢🧢

    • @hoost3056
      @hoost3056 Před dnem

      Nope. They were quick but not Hemi killer status. Give that to the Buick 455 Stage I

  • @dsiner1obslifedziner157
    @dsiner1obslifedziner157 Před 4 lety +2

    Awesome 455 big block,thanks for sharing.

  • @CuttykiddW
    @CuttykiddW Před 4 lety +6

    Im glad to see oldsmobile get a lil love on this show been watching this on sat morning every weekend for yrs go old s 🚀🚀🚀

  • @saintblamo
    @saintblamo Před 4 lety +3

    Awesome episode, great show. This needs to be back on TV.

  • @garageworm17
    @garageworm17 Před 4 lety

    I'm so glad you guys post these I can now show my kids the just werr I learned a good part of my car knowledge thank you

  • @wakjob961
    @wakjob961 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice to see that things aren't always perfect first time out for TV...
    The trouble shooting is the BEST part of these dyno runs.

  • @GospelTenor4Christ
    @GospelTenor4Christ Před 4 lety +4

    Those olds are clean, compact, and simple.

  • @ScrewySquid
    @ScrewySquid Před 4 lety +5

    I appreciate that you guys showed when you goofed up a bit. It shows that youre human and can make mistakes.

  • @DonXXXPrince
    @DonXXXPrince Před rokem

    I always wanted to see this 455 bulit up nice thank you PN.

  • @waugy370z8
    @waugy370z8 Před 4 lety +2

    What a torque monster. I love big blocks!!

    • @jlo13800
      @jlo13800 Před 4 lety

      Make a 2 stroke out of an aluminum DRCE like this SBC:www.4btswaps.com/threads/turning-4stroke-into-2-stroke.12888/#lg=thread-12888&slide=0

  • @JoeCubicle
    @JoeCubicle Před 4 lety +2

    From a production standpoint, these guys are TOP NOTCH video producers. Even vloggers (like I used to be) should watch and learn from the production staff that make these videos. Volume levels = Perfect! I'm not riding the volume control. Information flow = Perfect! Concise and to the point. I could go on and on but my food is ready. Later.

  • @wymple09
    @wymple09 Před 4 lety +8

    I had a 425 Olds in a 66 that was flogged hard and regularly. Toughest big bore engine I ever saw.

    • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
      @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 Před 3 lety +1

      425 had a forged crank. Yep, tough as nails.

    • @ckryses3962
      @ckryses3962 Před 3 lety

      Well in one video, reviewer told Hurst engines weren't that strong as compared to others!

    • @johnplato4976
      @johnplato4976 Před 2 lety +1

      ALSO there was typically more cylinder wall thickness to accept a max overbore engine. Getting the EARLY non-Toronado 425 "D" blocks was the key using the normal.842 lifter bore size. If I remember right, all 425's were forged steel cranks & rods. Like a 427 Chevy bb, the engine loved to rev with the under square bore/stroke combo. The major probkem was keeping the majority of the oil down at the crank. Joe remedied the problem with oil restrictors in the main oiling passage to the crank to maximize the flow of oil to the bottom end, thus saving many bottom ends from oil starvation along with higher volume & pressure oil pumps.

  • @davidoutdoors74
    @davidoutdoors74 Před 2 lety

    Great freakin channel guys. I love when you tear down the 5.3 junkyard find. I did a 350 to a 383 stroker in my 1987 formula. The TPI loves the new powerhouse.

  • @mikehunt9894
    @mikehunt9894 Před 3 lety +9

    A good Qjet may be better... Oldsmobile engines seem to just love em.

  • @patmcbride9853
    @patmcbride9853 Před 4 lety

    Nice to see that things don't always go smoothly.

  • @warrenzevonsangryghost6055
    @warrenzevonsangryghost6055 Před 4 lety +73

    VACUUM ADVANCE: Disappointed to see two supposedly 'pro' engine builders thinking that a leaky vacuum advance hose is going to steal all their horsepower. At 12:15, he says he's found the problem, in that the leaky hose is 'preventing the distributor from pulling full advance' and insinuating that this is the root issue why they are missing some 100+ hp. Perhaps we should review how & when vacuum advance works and what it's for.
    (Please forgive the following cut-n-paste from an article I wrote some years ago for a local gearhead newsletter)
    -Two advance mechanisms in most older points type and HEI distributors: mechanical advance and vacuum advance. Mechanical simply relies on engine speed to fling weights around and cause the rotor to pivot a bit opposite the normal direction of rotation and allow the spark to be advanced. Most mechanical advance setups provide about 25° to 35° of total advance (total = initial idle advance setting + the mechanical advance provided at engine speed), generally all in by 3400 rpm or thereabouts.
    -The vacuum advance works strictly on engine vacuum (either ported vacuum [vacuum above the throttle plates] or manifold vacuum taken straight from the intake manifold...ported vacuum was a BS emissions trick that didn't work worth a crap, so 60's and early 70's muscle cars and engines used manifold vacuum almost exclusively...the ported vacuum engines were mostly mid-to-late 70's and early 80's). Engines only have any appreciable vacuum at idle and small throttle openings, so there's your hint as to 'when' the vacuum advance will be functional.
    -To dig deeper, know that the ease with which an air-fuel mixture ignites and the speed at which it burns is closely related to how rich or lean the mixture is. A richer mixture lights quickly and burns fast (within reason...a super-rich mix will soak the spark plug and cause a miss). A lean mixture is harder to light and burns slower. If we're talking about a track-only vehicle here, with a big cam that allows little idle vacuum and where the car is being thrashed almost constantly, a vacuum advance is never given a chance to do anything or the engine is incapable of generating any appreciable vacuum. The distributors on many older racing engines don't even have provisions for a vacuum advance canister.
    -But any car that is regularly driven on the street needs that vacuum advance. Why? Smoother idle, for one (at least with manifold vacuum...ported vacuum setups have no vacuum advance at idle, so their idle might be sucky, especially on a built engine). But the real reason is at highway speed...cruising. Tooling down the road at 60 mph, the throttle is barely open, so the mixture is very lean...which is fine. We don't need a lot of power to cruise down the road. But, if all we have for advance is the 30° to 35° from the mechanical advance, we're getting a crap burn from that lean mixture. It's lighting way too late, and can even cause header & exhaust manifolds to glow cherry-red, as the burn is happening so late it's completing in the heads' exhaust passage and even downstream from there. That's power that is not being used to propel a piston down the bore. That's big power lost and fuel wasted.
    -So the obvious answer is to use the available vacuum that we get at cruising speed to further advance the timing. The advance unit simply has a rubber diaphragm that connects to an arm that pulls on the breaker plate (or the plate that the HEI triggers are mounted to) and the plate rotates around the center to provide an earlier trigger for the spark. A vacuum advance unit can advance the timing 20° to 25° beyond what the mechanical advance is capable of. So yes, bopping down the highway on a lazy day can mean the timing might be advanced as much as 55° or even more. Lean mixtures under little load can take big chunks of advance with no pinging/detonation issues. Stomp on the throttle, and the intake reverts back to atmospheric pressure pretty much instantly, and timing drops back to whatever the mechanical advance supplies, and no pinging (as long as your fuel doesn't suck). And when it comes to fill-up time, your wallet will thank you.
    (end article)
    So you can see why the assertion that a bad vacuum advance hose is stealing horsepower on the dyno is a silly one. The only time there's any vacuum in this case is at idle...the rest of the time the throttle is WFO trying to make lots of dyno horsepower and manifold vacuum is non-existent. Worst-case scenario is they mighta leaned the mixture a tad, but a small vacuum leak like that isn't going to screw you out of 100+ hp.
    Anyway, sorry for the freaking book here...just seems that with newer cars everywhere no one remembers (or ever knew) what vacuum advance was for or how it works. ✌-out

    • @slopoke22
      @slopoke22 Před 4 lety +3

      So much little shit like that flies under radar to most people!

    • @gazza116
      @gazza116 Před 4 lety +4

      no vacuum at full throttle.

    • @kevintucker3354
      @kevintucker3354 Před 4 lety +8

      Duh! And at least one of these guys is old enough to remember this! I don’t know, it is a tv show, maybe they’re actors reading a script?

    • @warrenzevonsangryghost6055
      @warrenzevonsangryghost6055 Před 4 lety

      Understand that I'm not intending to disparage these gentlemen. Tired, late, frustrated, looking for the source of problems and you find something and run with it without thinking it through.

    • @timsharpe3498
      @timsharpe3498 Před 4 lety

      The only way the vacuum advance would work at WOT is if you connected it to ported vacuum. When it’s connected to manifold vacuum even moderate throttle (under a load) will not produce enough vacuum to move the advance.

  • @anthonyr1080
    @anthonyr1080 Před 4 lety +12

    TIMING (vacuum advance) and VALVE adjustment (pre pump lifters) After 30 years Still finding same old mistakes!

    • @jakemichael8586
      @jakemichael8586 Před 4 lety +2

      glad you spotted the rooky mistakes. cam brake in is best with 2500 rpm plus!! as for timing i static time the engine and i pr-curve the dizzy so i no the total as well as base timing the instant it fires and use manifold vacuum on the distributor to get more idle vacuum as well as a cooler idel. then i fine tune using a vacuum gauge along with sum wide open throttle blasts. pull the plugs and take a reading.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Před 2 lety

      Worse: Look closely 00:47 re-using stock flat tappet cam... 4700 RPMs HP peak...

  • @Crysmatic
    @Crysmatic Před 4 lety +6

    750 carb works fine on a single plane intake manifold. You want to almost double that for a dual plane manifold. Each cylinder is now only breathing through half the carb. Dominator 1150 :)

  • @charlesdefrancisco5056
    @charlesdefrancisco5056 Před 4 lety +49

    You may want to check your math..joe bored the cylinders .030 over increasing the cubic displacement to I think about 468 so keep tuning

    • @sterlingarcher8441
      @sterlingarcher8441 Před 4 lety +16

      461 Charles.. 468 is .060

    • @gordowg1wg145
      @gordowg1wg145 Před 4 lety +2

      @@sterlingarcher8441 Beat me :-)
      More exactly 454.6, 461.2 and 467.9 CID respectively.

    • @cutty-mg3kf
      @cutty-mg3kf Před 4 lety

      @@gordowg1wg145 beat me my name is cutty468 lol

    • @steve19745
      @steve19745 Před 4 lety

      mine was 060 / 468 over , it ran for 4 years up until i sold the chevelle i had it in those were the days

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Před 4 lety

      Yep, not quite one HP per cube yet...

  • @chrisj1982
    @chrisj1982 Před 4 lety

    Had one of these mean things in our jet boat and it was sick

  • @SkypowerwithKarl
    @SkypowerwithKarl Před 4 lety +2

    I had a one on theses on a jet boat in the mid seventies when I was a kid and gas was cheap. It was said to be high performance 390 horsepower. I don’t how many thousands of gallons of gas I put through it and most of it at WOT. When I sold it, it smoked a bit at start, probably valve guides. It had a Holly spread bore 750 double pumper on it when it came from factory. The only problem I had was the fuel pump had a check valve the would at random times hang up and loose pressure. That drove me crazy because it would work when you tried diagnose. The only mod was a rev limiter so I didn’t have to lift between waves. Dam I beat the heck out of it......and it lived.

  • @tbxtroll
    @tbxtroll Před 4 lety

    amazing mechanical skills great video

  • @superkillr
    @superkillr Před 4 lety +39

    1hp per cube don't take into account the overbore.

    • @wyattyeary8050
      @wyattyeary8050 Před 4 lety

      Underrated comment

    • @doon714
      @doon714 Před 4 lety +7

      Their Is not anything special about this motor, The dual plane Intake Is killing this motor to, The 455 ranged from 250 ho to 400 from the factory, So say it was a 350 hp stock It picked up over 100 hp and that's not bad at all.

    • @ethanhessong3033
      @ethanhessong3033 Před 4 lety

      (4.156÷2)sq x pi x 4.250 x 8 = *461.23 ci*

    • @fartsare2023
      @fartsare2023 Před 3 lety

      Exactly

  • @joebuzz2758
    @joebuzz2758 Před rokem +1

    Had a 70 olds 98 455 rated low at 390hp 510 lbs ft of tourqe. Stock olds rocks.

  • @waugy370z8
    @waugy370z8 Před 4 lety

    Those header bolts are sweet!!!!

  • @MikesTrackBuilding
    @MikesTrackBuilding Před 4 lety +3

    Thank you for posting these. So hard to find here in Australia

    • @md_randoms2429
      @md_randoms2429 Před 2 lety

      Well Australia is the only place with ford barra motors, makes us Americans pretty jealous

  • @dapoppa2256
    @dapoppa2256 Před 4 lety

    I had one of these on a 69 Vista Cruiser...HOLY SMOKES!! Turbo 400 trans and Posi rear...it was a real beast..lots of fun to drive. 250K later my brother took it apart to rebuild it it was in good spec and still had honing marks on the cylinder walls. Great motor!!! TORQUE GALORE. He has put it is several cars over the years, he says he will never get rid of that block. One more thing these are getting hard to find in Bone Yards...Nothing else sounds like a 455!! The only thing I would do different is go with a twin turbo, on Natural gas..That would go to 500HP.

  • @adamcosta4610
    @adamcosta4610 Před 4 lety +2

    OLDS POWER for the WIN!

  • @shalas1967
    @shalas1967 Před 4 lety

    great show some much info cheers guys

  • @permafrost2064
    @permafrost2064 Před 4 lety +1

    I wish i could get a dyno tune like this on my 383. It would be awesome to learn and trouble shoot with the dyno data and these guys experience.

  • @americanfamiliesfirst2790

    If you guys used a torker intake, you could've got the 500 a lot faster.

  • @randy944
    @randy944 Před 4 lety +37

    the intake manifold is holding it back

    • @brightstarlastname2812
      @brightstarlastname2812 Před 4 lety +5

      The camshaft too. The one used, would be better in a small block 350-403CI.

    • @michaelhorgan9525
      @michaelhorgan9525 Před 4 lety +4

      There was an update many years later and they did upgrade the camshaft and the intake and it made a bit more power.

    • @markperry2827
      @markperry2827 Před 3 lety +1

      @@brightstarlastname2812 I was amazed Joe did not make them put an Engle cam.

    • @lamontwhitehead1809
      @lamontwhitehead1809 Před 3 lety

      Needs a Air Gap intake

    • @juliennacer8871
      @juliennacer8871 Před 3 lety

      @@lamontwhitehead1809 that is an rpm airgap

  • @Westhelockpicker
    @Westhelockpicker Před 9 měsíci

    I had a 455 in a 79 olds and it was a big sleeper! It had torque for days

  • @DiegoSanchez-gz7mw
    @DiegoSanchez-gz7mw Před 4 lety

    Great video 👍👍

  • @JDWard-Jeepster
    @JDWard-Jeepster Před 4 lety +3

    You guys being Chevy everything don't seem to understand that a Olds 455 is a long stroke torque motor. This is why they are so popular in jet boats.

  • @strictlybusiness1598
    @strictlybusiness1598 Před 4 lety +3

    Considering these engines were rated between 275 and 400 horsepower in stock form the 456 hp/ 537 lb-ft of torque was a good number for this mild build on a vintage muscle car engine. Nicely done.

    • @fredmendez4837
      @fredmendez4837 Před 4 lety

      In 1970, they made over 400 hp stock...this had crank balancing, head and intake swap plus headers....seems like 475 should've been a little more respectable target...considering the engine is limited in upgrades...

  • @brandonhumphries3377
    @brandonhumphries3377 Před 4 lety +4

    That flat performer intake is killing that engine

  • @ronstanleyhunt1135
    @ronstanleyhunt1135 Před 2 lety +2

    EVERYTHING WAS GOING SO WELL UNTIL THAT SUMMIT 750 CARB CAME OUT

  • @2001pontiacta
    @2001pontiacta Před 4 lety +1

    I remember watching these guys when I was 18, they had 3 guys on this show. I remember when Mike join there show and they did the “pocket rocket” the Honda Civic. Along with many other cool cars they had built. Love this show! Wish Stacey David was back on under the”Trucks” he used to build.

    • @ImTheJoker4u
      @ImTheJoker4u Před 4 lety

      He has a new show, and website called “Gearz”.

    • @2001pontiacta
      @2001pontiacta Před 4 lety

      John Ulicky yes, I like the show(Gearz) but think trucks was better, just my opinion. I wish he’d show gears was a few hours long! I could watch Stacey David building and work on stuff for hours! He knows his stuff and has just crazy ideas!

  • @TeamJesus515
    @TeamJesus515 Před 4 lety +16

    Whisker biscuit? More than cubic inches on your mind.

  • @lifewithmarleyandjon4616

    Mike and Joe are the best on Powerblock! I've been watching this since its inception.

  • @diannmeowers1778
    @diannmeowers1778 Před 4 lety

    Excellent!

  • @rlbeardsley6022
    @rlbeardsley6022 Před rokem

    And another thing! As my old high school janitor once said, when I asked him if he wanted to drag his ‘65 Impala against my dad’s olds 98, he said, “Oldsmobile? SHEEEEEEIT!” LOL

  • @ls6-ss413
    @ls6-ss413 Před 4 lety +74

    Man that red looks horrid on those seats🤢

    • @msgofast
      @msgofast Před 4 lety

      And all over the floor..

    • @fredmendez4837
      @fredmendez4837 Před 4 lety +3

      Who told him that looked good???

    • @fuzzy11901
      @fuzzy11901 Před 4 lety +1

      I’m not too sure myself but first thought was same omg that not attractive at all ....

    • @daviderickson9445
      @daviderickson9445 Před 4 lety

      The blue tape even looked better.

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking Před 4 lety

      2.24, an adjustable wrench? Seriously? 😳🤯

  • @3800TURBO
    @3800TURBO Před 4 lety +2

    Those front covers should stay loose until the balancer is on as if its not square the balancer seal will leak.

  • @charlescroney7109
    @charlescroney7109 Před 2 lety +1

    Love my Oldsmobiles and I put a 455olds in a 77nova rally SS and you talking about badass, it was a bone stock engine and we raced a guy who had a short bed Ford pickup and he had a big block in it and over$4000, dollars in high performance parts and the nova blowed the doors off the Ford 🤣🤣🤣

  • @kylestewart8049
    @kylestewart8049 Před 4 lety

    Hell YA! Way to stick with it 😎👍

  • @BigUnk85
    @BigUnk85 Před 4 lety +10

    Those same mods on a 454 Chevy would be well over 500 hp. They did the 454 with stock heads and low compression pistons and made 408 hp. Then they installed dome pistols aluminum heads roller cam and had over 600 hp.

    • @member5488
      @member5488 Před 4 lety +3

      Yeah, BBCs pretty well crush every other GM big block. Frankly, there's no reason to build any GM engine besides LS variants and BBCs over 572 unless you just have to have a matching brand motor for a mild build.

    • @TheFormula350
      @TheFormula350 Před 4 lety +2

      @@member5488 the aftermarket really caters to the sbc/ bbc crowd. In terms of aftermarket support no other engine platform has access to as many good parts. In any N/A application cylinder heads are for the most part the deciding factor in terms of peak hp n compared to Buick Olds n Pontiac the options are endless for sbc n bbc.

    • @camgnilpe9300
      @camgnilpe9300 Před 4 lety +4

      frankly you should try to keep your head out of your ass and mind your own fucking business.opinions are like assholes member 548.

    • @md_randoms2429
      @md_randoms2429 Před 2 lety +1

      Big block Chevrolets definitely make more power but the olds mobiles engines seam like torque monsters

    • @alanmeyers3957
      @alanmeyers3957 Před měsícem

      It’s got a lot to do with the stroke arrangement with the olds.

  • @rightsidelanechoice7702
    @rightsidelanechoice7702 Před 4 lety +2

    The best way to adjust valves hydraulic or solid is to roll the crank over, go from cylinder to cylinder and as each intake valve starts to close you adjust the exhaust valve and then when the exhaust valve begins to open you adjust the intake valve. If you have a lot of overlap it ensures your on base circle.

  • @geoman51270
    @geoman51270 Před 4 lety +2

    Rocket power!!!

  • @818bulldog4
    @818bulldog4 Před 4 lety

    great shows!!!!!!

  • @4682felipe
    @4682felipe Před 2 lety

    Man i love the kids drive had to get it done ✔

  • @whathappened2230
    @whathappened2230 Před 4 lety +1

    +30 is 461 on the 455 Olds. It needs an advance curve kit,a 4-hole 2" spacer on that intake and a 800 cfm webber afb carb. Use the C casting heads if you can find any,and port like Joe. You will have about 505 hp and over 600 tq. This engine ruined my 85 Cutless with the tq twist. It actually popped my rear window out on a hard launch. Use a chain to the frame rail from the head or it will break the engine mount. Have fun folks!

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Před 2 lety

      This build 00:47 re-using stock flat tappet cam... 4700 RPMs HP peak...

  • @vendediesel
    @vendediesel Před 4 lety +3

    These fine gentlemen are artists. They just need more episodes that revolve around using EFI. I die a little bit inside every time I see them do these wonderful builds and then strap a carb on top.

    • @thereluctantgearhead4544
      @thereluctantgearhead4544 Před 4 lety

      Ain't you the superior one...

    • @thereluctantgearhead4544
      @thereluctantgearhead4544 Před 4 lety

      Guess you just can't figure that old school shit out. Maybe you should give it a try.

    • @vendediesel
      @vendediesel Před 4 lety

      I grew up on both. There is no guesswork with a computer when you know what you are doing. It's how Ford designed the new 7.3. Grow up.

    • @superkillr
      @superkillr Před 4 lety

      This shit is 10 years old. It's not like putting a Holley Sniper or FiTech like nowadays. Plus for easy break in on very sensitive flat tappet cams, the carb RULES!!

    • @thereluctantgearhead4544
      @thereluctantgearhead4544 Před 4 lety

      @@vendediesel Ive built engines for a living for the last 35+yrs, I believe I'm grown, boy....

  • @skeggjoldgunnr3167
    @skeggjoldgunnr3167 Před rokem

    One HP / CI used to be THE elusive ultimate dream target goal of ALL hot rod engine builders with the normally aspirated. Today? - Many ways to get there! With the same block and rotating assembly practically. I bought an Olds '98 brand new off the showroom in 1972. Drove it 6 or 7 times then put it in storage for some years while overseas, came back to it just in time for the gas crunch. Had a '76 VW bus. YUP! An Olds 455 in a pretty VW bus that everyone thought they would pass. nope. nope. HA! The honking they did when they didn't get the results they expected.

  • @TheRoguelement
    @TheRoguelement Před 2 lety

    I can tell you guys one thing the Olds 455 makes a really great Tractor motor for pulling blades across your lower 40 and when done makes a great Boat anchor...

  • @sidecarbod1441
    @sidecarbod1441 Před 4 lety

    12:06 The first thing they teach you school is that the vac system plays no part in the ignition timing at WOT but it is very important for part throttle driving.

  • @coachklein2005
    @coachklein2005 Před rokem

    I trust him building my engine now that dedication 🎉

  • @joeshmoe7967
    @joeshmoe7967 Před 2 lety +1

    My very first car was a '72 Olds Delta 88, 455 4 barrel. Great car, but a little hard on Gas.....

  • @jmurphy1973
    @jmurphy1973 Před 4 lety +29

    They've got a different definition of "whisker biscuit" than I do...

    • @stevenbeasley24
      @stevenbeasley24 Před 4 lety

      Same here.

    • @josuepaz9446
      @josuepaz9446 Před 4 lety

      What does it mean ?

    • @jmurphy1973
      @jmurphy1973 Před 4 lety +3

      @@josuepaz9446
      the muff, a woman's crotch, the bush
      Apparently, it's something used in bow hunting but of all bow hunters I know, I've never heard that term used

    • @kevintucker3354
      @kevintucker3354 Před 4 lety

      Mmm, now I’m hungry...thanks bro.

    • @CHESTURCH
      @CHESTURCH Před 4 lety

      I have a whisker biskit arrow rest on my bow. I use it when im elk hunting. I have never heard anyone call a hoo haw that... so basically he said to the other guy, "You ready pussy?"

  • @racer67
    @racer67 Před 4 lety +3

    Cant go wrong with "OLDS GOLD"

    • @r0dnee
      @r0dnee Před 4 lety

      dont try to use the spray on it otherwise BOOM!

  • @montecappaletti2613
    @montecappaletti2613 Před 4 lety

    VERY COOL

  • @jamesharrison6201
    @jamesharrison6201 Před 9 měsíci

    Perfect for my GMC 3500

  • @mikep7915
    @mikep7915 Před 4 lety +1

    14:30 best part of the show

  • @Jerrodplanck
    @Jerrodplanck Před 4 lety +45

    "I'm not showing you what we do." As he puts the lifter he just pre pumped into the motor...

    • @mickeymang6
      @mickeymang6 Před 4 lety

      🤣😂

    • @BigDaddy-fx4nx
      @BigDaddy-fx4nx Před 4 lety

      Yeah but they said it has solid lifters?????? This is total BS.

    • @attitudeadjusted9027
      @attitudeadjusted9027 Před 4 lety +6

      @@BigDaddy-fx4nx no actually he said it was a hydraulic roller.

    • @warrenzevonsangryghost6055
      @warrenzevonsangryghost6055 Před 4 lety +9

      @@attitudeadjusted9027 4:02 He says "we've been soaking our Comp hydraulic lifters...." Nothing about rollers or solid, and of course you can see for yourself that he has flat tappet lifters in his hand.

    • @mattperkins7038
      @mattperkins7038 Před 4 lety +6

      For the record don’t pump up your hydraulic lifters

  • @montycrain5783
    @montycrain5783 Před rokem +5

    I’d love to see a test with a single plane intake and a Holley Dominator. It still seems about 50 horsepower low.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Před 9 měsíci

      or a well setup tunnel ram and solid flat tappet

  • @skeggjoldgunnr3167
    @skeggjoldgunnr3167 Před rokem +1

    Build an Olds 455 for torque. ALL torque. A mild dual pattern marine cam for daily driver, not attracting attention. Injectors and velocity stacks, not a big carb. Higher compression ratio while you're at it. Now gear it 272:1. The busted gear teeth and twisted drivetrain can be dealt with AFTER. Torque is what you FEEL everyday. It's the fun. And the biggest reward of this build? GREAT fuel economy if you aint nailin' it all the time. Surprise!

  • @dominicdaley5702
    @dominicdaley5702 Před 4 lety +3

    What a coincidence. Posted on my birthday and I also own a 69 Cutlass with a 455 😁

  • @jonathanduke8295
    @jonathanduke8295 Před 4 lety +1

    I love olds

  • @demonic477
    @demonic477 Před 4 lety

    a few years ago I I watched a engine shop trying to get 500 HP out of a lightly built Olds 455 and they had the same intake as this one . they were struggling to get it over the 495 hp mark tell the old man who runs the shop had the idea to use the stock Olds aluminum intake the engine had from the factory. it turned out it had bigger runners and better flow then the fancy modern one. the engine ended up making 525 hp after they changed the new intake for the crusty old one still in the factory gold paint. the owner of the engine was very happy about the power numbers but still had them put the shiny intake on the engine and kept the crusty one for later some people .

  • @tj484
    @tj484 Před 3 lety +1

    that olds 455 was one of the fastest motors i ever done tourq moster

  • @joeshmoe7967
    @joeshmoe7967 Před 2 lety

    As I young man I never did get around to playing with cars/engines as I would have liked. Now in my 60s I know I have missed out. Watching this I can't help but think of all the joy that will be missed by youngsters of today as we get away from I.C.E.
    Worse is the nightmare of young men, sipping lattes, bragging about the virtues of their Transit Passes...
    P.S: I still haven't got around to building the motorized go kart, I have dreamt of since I was 8 years old.
    I did buy a brand new 6HP engine about 15 years ago, it is still in the box. Maybe this Year?
    Also have an '86 Ford Ranger 4x4 I would love to do a total restoration on.....'time keeps on, slippin',
    into the future.....'

  • @ericanderson4441
    @ericanderson4441 Před 3 lety +2

    You don't pick up 20+hp because of "cool dry air", unless you're using uncorrected numbers, which aren't repeatable. They fudged they dyno correction just enough to get the 1hp per cube, so it doesn't look bad.

  • @philipmiller9787
    @philipmiller9787 Před 4 lety

    My friend had a Buick electrica, 445 it rocked.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Před 2 lety +1

      445 was the torque number on Buicks...

    • @craigm3777
      @craigm3777 Před rokem

      Everyone misses that.. 445/465 were buick TORQUE NUMBERS

  • @user-km8ec1wg7i
    @user-km8ec1wg7i Před 4 lety

    👌 perfect

  • @backyardbuilttrucks1
    @backyardbuilttrucks1 Před 4 lety +6

    Edelbrock heads you better take them apart cause the guides will leak. And never pump up any howards / morel roller lifters . or any anti pump up lifters . VR1 Valvoline high zinc and a bottle of zinc additive. Never had a cam issue and break in cam vary the rpm every 5 minutes for 30 minutes from 2000 to 2700 rpm. Like 2200 , 2400 , 2500 , 2700 then back down. So oil is slung off crank at different angles onto the camshaft.

    • @doon714
      @doon714 Před 4 lety +1

      And no one cares about your stupid comment either hotep........ And he never said oil Is sprayed from the crankshaft, Like to old saying goes, Some kids are better seen and not hard from.

  • @blackericdenice
    @blackericdenice Před 4 lety +1

    4:00 hot coolant run through the intake so it’s going be hot anyway.

  • @hotrodray6802
    @hotrodray6802 Před 4 lety +8

    No vacuum at wide open throttle boys.😨

  • @zxtenn
    @zxtenn Před 3 lety

    I had a 427/425 BBC and always set timing at full advance about 2500 rpm not at idle, used to have one of those tapes' you would put around the balancer, seemed 36-38 was fine

  • @wileecohagen
    @wileecohagen Před 4 lety +1

    Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races!

    • @camgnilpe9300
      @camgnilpe9300 Před 4 lety

      wow I am impressed by your knowledge. now do your self and the rest of the people a favor and STFU! wilee

  • @TMB247
    @TMB247 Před 4 lety +2

    Painting seats "Rinse and repeat every 6 months"
    I will live with what I have that has lasted many years even though it does not "pop"
    If I really want a change ... replace the cover

  • @happyhemp1191
    @happyhemp1191 Před 3 lety

    I had this in my jet boat not bad

  • @tg12121212
    @tg12121212 Před 4 lety +14

    no dyno graph to show for all that. thumbs down. peak numbers are not the entire story.

  • @waugy370z8
    @waugy370z8 Před 4 lety +1

    Theres just no way electric cars will ever be as fun as a car with something like this in it. Yeah they got crazy acceleration but you just cant beat the feeling of rippin something like this down the street & strip.

  • @ronsmith7739
    @ronsmith7739 Před 2 lety +1

    Joe Mondello passed away in April, 2011. R.I.P.

  • @grabir01
    @grabir01 Před 4 lety

    Wow!!

  • @metalrott324
    @metalrott324 Před 4 lety

    New intake and much bigger carb. Done done.

  • @skylinefever
    @skylinefever Před 3 lety +1

    4:30 Some people apply a vacuum pump to the oil container. That makes the job go much more quickly.
    11:37 Actually it would need to be a little more than 455. I'm not sure what overbore this engine has, but it has resulted in more cubes.

  • @wokewokerman5280
    @wokewokerman5280 Před rokem

    ....nice work gents, would have like to see what springs and force you spec'd/went with...thanks for this vid!

  • @nickplona8980
    @nickplona8980 Před 4 lety +1

    @ 0:21 he broke the stud on the cylinder head.. nice

  • @lelandlewis7207
    @lelandlewis7207 Před 4 lety +5

    If you look at your dyno sheet, engine torque is in lb-ft, not ft-lbs. ft-lbs is twisting torque used on bolts, lb-Ft is a measure of work capability.