Polygamy: Pt 2, 10 Biblical Facts Proving God’s Not Against It
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- In this video, Mike Allen tackles the controversial topic and misconceptions of ‘Biblical Polygyny,’ commonly referenced as ‘Polygamy’, which consists of the practice of men having multiple wives. A subject that Is considered taboo in most western Christian circles and culture. Mike reveals by ‘DIGGIN IN THE WORD’ 10 facts uncommonly known that are contained within the pages of Scriptures.
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Excellent two parter on polygyny. This is a topic I've been addressing for a while. Great to find a brother who not only found truth but has the stones to speak boldly! Shalom!
Shalom! Thanks Brother!
Any update?
Do you happen to have an update?
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Ya'll pray for me. God gave me this revelation a few years ago and I've been sharing it w my wife. She is at the point where she cannot deny the scriptures now we've got to get to the point where she's comfortable w me practicing. Pray for me and thanks. And thank u brother for teaching the Truth!
Tim Redd you’re welcome my Brother, and thank you for words of appreciation! I pray your journey and desire to live out this revelation becomes fruitful to you and those who will observe your boldness. I pray that the Spirit of Almighty Yah protect and give you all the desires of your heart, according to His will and purpose! Stay strong, be wise and understanding towards your weaker vessel. For this is a fragile process. Nevertheless, I encourage you to be bold in Godspeed! Be aware that the enemy will not be pleased!
You are wrong show me the New Testament where polygamy is okay
You do know Polygny does not mean you can go around having sex with whores or prostitute the next wife you take has to be a Women of God dressed in modest apparel.
@@dialogical513 show me that in bible
@@Ricky-wu5mm Trust me i don't agree with Polygny but at this point I know most men can't meet the standards to even practice it so its why I'm pointing out some of the requirements
Subscribed please keep these amazing videos coming this is the answer to my questions thank you brother
Hey Mike, thanks for this. I've been torn about this topic as a son of a Father who had two wives. He divorced my mother and got married to his second wife, whom which he is still with, and betrayed my mother and treated her poorly. Basically, he cheated, and I thought he was a sinner because he was not treating my mother with love and respect, as well as the rights that she deserved to nurture and caretake for me. He was a liar. I struggled with my attraction to women as a result of this, because I wanted some clear answers before I decided to get married or have any children. I was not raised with any particular religion and never went to church, but attended a catholic school which I had a horrible time in. In moments of crisis, I turned to God and prayed, after which the Holy Spirit began talking to me. Following the voice inside was what led me to this video. I would love to talk further. God bless.
Greetings to you Yuta!
Thank you Brother for being vulnerably transparent in sharing your redemption story and journey you’re on! The greatest part of it is in what the enemy meant has used to destroy, Yah has used for His ultimate goodness.
Certainly, I look forward to chopping it up with you. Just send me an email at mikeallen@digginintheword.biz
Shalom!
Mike Allen
Thanks for the two parter, both of which has answered a lot of my questions and gave me good resources to follow up study. God bless your work and may God bless you.
+Vic Bilson thank you Brother! Glad to hear you got some value out of it. May Yah Bless you and your journey as well!
The breakdown was awesome !
Thank you sir for the video.
Yep the truth will come to light. All things hidden will be revealed ❤
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Your doing great work bro! You lay clear difference between God's law (commandments and moseratic law) as opposed to opinion of church (Paul variably gave his letters to the churches but stating that was his opinion on different matters ;and church leadership has continued to opine to date)
A lot of common sentiments against subject of polygyny are based on opinion, but have no basis in God's commandment
Thank you so kindly! And such poignant points you make as well!
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Shalam Ahch, may the Most High and Christ bless you.
I just want to say thank you and how much I appreciate you for putting together that piece of information for edification purposes. In my younger years I have taught on the subject and expounded on it for edification purposes. Unfortunately many of these camps have perverted the scriptures and use this knowledge for their own self gratification/perversion. Some camps made up of entirely bishops and deacons even preach sermons against polygamy, which is false and a form of perverting the scriptures as well. In closing, I just want to say how much you are appreciated Ahch. Shalam and may the Most High and Christ bless you and your family.
Love always Zayan Shal Ahla
Zayan Shal Ahla, Shalom Aleichem to you to too Ahch, and thank you so kindly for the prayers, kind words of encouragement, praise and gratitude! Yes it is sadly true how the Holy Scriptures are being distorted by those who profess to be leaders and teachers of the Most High. Nevertheless, we must continue to strive for and communicate that which is true, because Yashua has called out a true people that are “...the pillar and ground of the truth” for society today (1 Timothy 3:15). Therefore, I in turn pray Yah’s eternal blessings upon you and that you stay encouraged in being a mouth piece of truth! I salute you with love and peace in His precious Name!
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
valuable content brother!
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Great job Ahki
Thanks my Akhoti!
Great content Brotha. Fresh perspective on this particular topic. Shalom Shalom
Blessings Ach! Thanks for the words of encouragement! Glory to Most High! For there’s nothing new; meaning, there’s no new perspective beyond what He knows. Thus, all the praise are due Him! - Shalom Shalom
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen just a perspective that I haven't heard from content creators and the like. Appreciate your offerings of the insight. YHWH doesn't light a lamp for it to be placed under a table. Iron sharpens iron. Thanks for your time and obedience to render His Truths.
@@NAPMedia-uy3oe Selah and Amen! No He certainly does not… you’re welcome my Brother! Many Blessings to you and yours!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen yessir, will be looking forward for future content as well. Peace and blessings.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen HI i need your help colud you explain to me these verses i have a disscusion with someone who is against polygamy.
1.Mat.19,3-12
2.1Tym.3,2;
3.Tyt.1,6.
Thanks Bro..4 Ur insight.
& Thanks 4 Giving Us The Scriptures
You’re welcome Brother! All Praise to The Most High!
I'm convinced. It's time has come. Resurrection of polygany
Amen!
Yes whe need this resurrection
@@franciscolugo5130 we and yes we do our people are a icon to show the word of God to all nations the truth will set you free preach the word
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Great video!!! Thank you so much.
Some of the questions my mind drifts to is:
1. What technically is a wife in the bible?
2. Can you be married not through the state system and how dose that look both ceremony and long term?
3. Where dose a concubine fit in?
Some of these notions I am getting answers for as I continue listening and watching this video.
+timothy chichetti
Thanks Brother! So sorry for just getting back to you! On question:
(1). A wife is spelled out in the creation account. Gen. 2:18, NASB, reads,
“Then the LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.” Therefore, a wife is a suitable helper that remedies a man from being alone in what God gave him to do. In Hebrew, the woman is designed for the man to be - in front of, in the sight, opposite to or corresponding to him to help him in order to help him. Thus, she was made to assist and not to be his equal, and definitely not to take over what God has given him to do.
(2). Yes you can be married with out a state license. You could draw up and sign a private marriage Contract that spells out the details of how you would like your marriage and household arranged. A state license gives you easier access to governmental benefits, but private/domestic partner agreements are permissible in court and each state has its own criteria of acceptance, so do check your state for further info. And no, you do not need a ceremony in order to establish a marriage this way. Private marriage lasts as long as each party is in agreement. Do look out for my next part of my series on “Either Your Pastor Is lying.”
(3). A concubine is a wife on a lower status. She is likely a servant or just a woman you arrange to mostly have a sexual relationship with. She is not entitled the same legal protections as a regular wife though.
Hopefully, this helps.
Cheers. Another less appreciated version of reality is that Holy Bible Is a bigass metaphor.
Marriage is between YOU & CHRIST, taking on extra is honestly difficult to understand.
Absolutely love the Batman shirt, and Iove the profound knowledge and wisdom u speak on God!!!
Thank you!
This is good stuff bro!!
Tim Redd thank you Brother! To Yah be the Glory!
Fantastic truth and video
Thanks for the encouragement Brother!
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Excellent study video on the topic of Polygamy brethren , Shalom may Ahba YAH bless you.
+Edward Shalom Ach! Thanks for the encouraging words! Many Blessings to you and yours 🙏🏾
He'll yea I got some value outta this. You broke a yoke over our people. It's late lest I'll go so deep with it.
1. Our black boys will finally grow up w their fathers presence and influence. Cuz jealous wife won't divorce her husband for carrying a mistress as long as the man is upfront with how he will provide for all his obligations for both women; Food, Shopping & Sexual intimacy. It forces such a man to work harder to be a high value man.
Boy grow up w their fathers, therefore less violence out there in our streets.
The wrong kinda Feminism has ruined this culture.
I do think a woman should only submit in this way to a natural leader, and provider
Not every man understands God's agenda in this
Anyways you were outstanding in your post and I learned something . I'm a strong Christian too. Way stronger than any woman ive met in my life.. so this hits different.
Well said, and thank you Brother!
Thank you for the information
You’re welcome and glad you got some value out of it
God bless you brother.
+Funbi Gbolagun thanks and back at you!
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
The black church needs to change. I bet black men would come back to the church in great numbers if we would stop corrupting the Word.
Profoundly spoken and prophetically true!!! Thank you for your candid accuracy!
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Wow so glad I came across this truth.
And I am glad and thankful for your appreciation for it! To The Most High be the Glory!
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Excellent, thank you
+Bill Baehr you’re welcome and thank you
Truth. Softening up my first wife to this.
Women can't always keep bearing children over and over, the woman is compared to a field in the Bible, where the man sows.
Well sometimes you got to let a field rest, and a field can be depleted in nutrients. Is a farmer supposed to starve then?
No, he has multiple fields, or acquires more if he has to.
Facts! But let this wicked system tell it, it is somehow considered honorable here for a man to just accept it and starve...
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen This is because of St Paul's writings on marriage being taken out of context I think. Because he abstained.
But celibacy for some men is also needed, because of the gender ratio skewing on the dating market to men's disadvantage when other men acquire more women.
It's just that the whole "only monogyny" thing has become extreme, for no good reason. I'd say it's even a type of proto-feminism, since a man with only one wife, if she doesn't offer him sex when he wants and needs it, he becomes a simp and tries to win what is already supposed to be his by making little favors for her all the time, when he instead could invest the time where she needs her space in another woman, unfortunately today this still happens, but behind her back instead.
He becomes an unbiblical man by putting up with only having one woman officially.
Bryan Freeman well said my Brother. As put another way, “Monogamy Only” compels men to live a lie and lie...
You guys are lost in lust. It was permitted for reasons, the times were very different. Now how can you love your wife like yourself and want to consume another woman with the excuse that it’s not even for the times that we live in now?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Isaac and Rebecca were a lie then? Adam and Eve a lie? You could clearly see the creator cared about Leah feelings. So if you’re not put in a situation like that just like Jacob was of a duty to marry more than one woman and you’re doing it by pure lust and ego youre intentions are very wrong and the messiah said he’s gonna judge the intentions. This type of animal mans that only care about the hormones and having pleasure makes me sick. You have to care about the spirit and the soul not the flesh. Not your proud, ego selfish ways. You’re here to serve one another. To love your wife just like he loved his wife. To try to be perfect like the messiah was perfect and he only and one bride. Never let her go and sacrificed himself for her. Only one tribe.
Can you explain to me Jeremiah 31:31-33 I listened to a preacher that said the old covenant is gone replaced by the new what's your interpretation on this
@mike lo,
Sure! The New Covenant is the Old Covenant renewed, based on better promises. That means that there are things within the Old Covenant that are obsolete, while there are others that are timeless and carries over into the New.
Now in touching on Jeremiah 31:31-33, the word ‘new’ in vs 31 is the Hebrew word, ‘chadash’ which means - a new thing, fresh, according to the Strong’s Concordance.
However, in the Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, ‘chadash’ means “to repair, rebuild or renew.”
Also, when the Old Testament was first translated into Greek between the 3rd to the 1st century BCE, the Septuagint transliterated ’chadash’ into the Greek word ‘kainos’ which means “renewed, refreshed or repaired or qualitatively new.”
However, the Greek word for something that is “brand new or numerically new” would be ‘neos.’
Now you see, Mike lo, with just a little diggin’, we find that the Old Testament writers concept of the New Testament was not that it would something that would be ‘brand new,’ but rather something that would be revised from the Old.
Now something else to consider is that the term New Covenant or New Testament used, in 8 out of 9 times the authors use kainos rather than neos. Only in Hebrews 11:24 is Greek word neos used in reference to the New Covenant.
Now hopefully, this answers your question. No, the Old Testament isn’t gone within its entirety which is why the New Testament writers quoted from it 283 times, and as I made the point in answering your first two questions, the apostles often quoted Old Testament writers to teach on everything pertaining to living a godly life.
Hence, why Paul wrote in 2 Timothy 3:16-17,
“16 ALL Scripture (of OT) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for EVERY good work.”
And in Romans 15:4,
“For whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope.”
mike i need help i cannot understand 1st timothy 3rd chapter where it talks about overseers to have only one wife .
Greetings!
Yes:
1. What Yah said in the first covenant remains the same concerning marriage. James 1:17, says, “17 Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow.” Also, Malachi 3:6, says, “6 For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.”
2. The word ‘one’ in 1 Tim 3:2 is translated into a word that could mean either a, first, one or other. It’s the feminine gender word for heis which is the Greek word ‘Mias.’ Which primarily means - a, first, or other in other places. For instance, Mias is used in Mark 16:2, “early on the first day of the week; in Acts 20:7, “On the first day of the week”; However, either the word a or first are likely better transliterations of this word Mias in this passage in 1 Tim 3:2 and should be rendered “he must be the husband of the first or a wife.”
3. Transliterating this word into first, is exactly what other translations have done, showing that what I’m saying here isn’t coming out of vacuum. For instance, the NIV reads, “Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife.” NLT reads, “He must be faithful to his wife.” CEV reads, “That's why officials must have a good reputation and be faithful in marriage.”
4. Another factor to consider is that Paul uses the same phrase structure translated for women to be on a list 60 and over who are widows in 1 Tim 5:9, it reads, “she has been the wife of one man,” in the KJV.” Just as in Israel, Greek women in the first did not engage in having multiple husbands, so again, 1 Tim 5:9 is another passage of Paul that should either ‘a’ or ‘first’ instead of the word ‘one.’
Hopefully this helps!
Shalom Brother!
Thank you.
You’re welcome! Thanks for the gratitude!
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
I have had pastors, preachers, friends, and family members debate this and condemn this as sin or weird.
It amazes me how BLIND they are.
Take the FOLLOWING FACTS
100% of the books in the ENTIRE BIBLE was either
@ written by men with multiple wives
OR
@ written about men with multiple wives
OR
@ written about Israel (a country that ONLY came into existence because a man had 12 sons from multiple wives)
This is A FACT
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Awesome thanks for the link. I appreciate it.
By the way, I have a NEW TESTAMENT "shut down" scripture thats shuts people up that condemn this as sin.
In first Corinthians 7th Chapter...the Apostle issues a COMMAND of Jesus, commanding Husbands to (not EVER divorce thier wives, even if the wife is estranged) but allow her to be RECONCILED back as a wife.
LATER in that chapter, Paul addresses MARRIED MEN who (either have a wife at home, or if she is estraged) stating if though MARY though HAVE NOT SINNED.
This very clear explicit statement from Apostle Paul combined with the COMMANDMENT of Christ OUTRIGHT commands Polygamy if a husband of an estranged wife takes another wife
Very interesting teaching. But I don't think that many women here in the United States would go along with it.
I tend to agree with Paul it's better to be single and serve the Lord.
Thank you for your comment Sister! Yes, this one is most certain a ‘Whopper Sized’ stumbling block for many. As for Paul, do recognize that he said that concerning remaining single, because of the uncertainty of his day, not as a universal indicative. (1 Corinthians 7:25-38)
I know of so many men who would use this to their advantage. They would abuse the power they would have over women.
As I read the scriptures where Jesus was interacting with many women he didn't put them down but he lifted them up.
He shared with a woman at the well, who the whole town had rejected, that he was the Messiah.
It was through her testimony that the whole town came out to see him.
It was like she was the first evangelist proclaiming the good news.
So how do you feel about women teaching and preaching the word?
@@dcasey-x7w Yes mankind always will find a way to circumvent doing what is right. However, this is why God instituted laws for the practice just as He did for monogamy, because of trifling unrighteous men.
As for women teaching and preaching, the Bible is clear that God is not against them doing, providing they do not attempt to teach and preach to men (1 Tim. 2:11-15; 1 Cor. 14:34-35; Eph. 5:25-27; 1 Pet. 3:1-2).
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
I just commend your boldness bro......most church leaders won't dare go near a topic like this
Anyways, polygamy is not for everyone
The fact that polygamy is not what likely everyone can handle, it is however the vehicle by which we all came through, so the lies about it must stop.
How does Deut. 17:14-17 square with the Old Testament examples of David, Solomon, etc. ?
+Mike Mooney the context of this passage is about God not wanting kings in Israel to trust in silver and gold, purchasing horses in Egypt to build a stronger military in Israel and multiplying wives to form alliances. For He wanted to be their only source of dependence.
Ok the first point of this video was off 😂 God is the bride of us all. But PREACH.
+Professor Left are you serious! The persona of God is described in the male gender throughout Scripture, so how can God be a bride? Please explain?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen The bible says jesus will return for his bride, meaning us the church. Whether you like it not you're the bride of Christ. 😂
Do you realize what you originally said? Go back to your initial comment pls. You said, “God is the BRIDE of us all.” However, I’m well aware that Christ’s called out ones are His bride, but you said that “God is the bride.” Don’t you see, you misspoke here? Now, please explain how exactly was my “first point was off,” as you claim.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen You're correct I misspoke. Forgive me. Meant to say we are all Gods bride. Hence Jesus coming back for his bride. It's irrelevant that he's coming for multiple people, the point is he's coming back for us. This isn't meant to say Jesus is a polygimist its meant to say he is coming back for the ones he made an eternal commitment to. And few of the vows we make through life are as powerful as marriage so it's a perfect example. I agree with the video but not this part.
@@Kometheus thanks for clarifying that you misspoke! I got scared 😳 a moment there, lol. Now on it being irrelevant Jesus is coming back for multiple people, I have to differ. In fact, the whole point of Jesus’ prophecy He uses here has imagery of Himself as being a polygynist in Matthew 25. It speaks more to the individual than it does the collective. Notice that He is actually warning each individual of His disciples to be prepared for His return by contrasting those that are with those that are not. That’s why in vs. 13, He told specifically His disciples at the end, “13“Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour [b]in which the Son of Man is coming.” Making the point that His overall one bride is comprised of individuals who are to make their own respective choice to be prepared. Just as we serve One God who is comprised of Three Persons.
Thought about starting my own channel on the topic, now I do not need to do it because I can promote your material.
Thank you for your support Brother! Yes this material needs to get out. However, if you do decide to start one, please keep me informed! I would certainly love to support. Thanks again! Godspeed!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen thank you brother for your willingness to stay true to God's word. I think restoring polygyny as viable option will help to restore biblical Christianity and will fix a lot issues in our society.
@@andrehoward8952 most certainly as Prescriptive Monogamy has certainly been the cause of so much social, economic and relationship ills.
All praises
But, because of fornications, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.
1 Corinthians 7:2 ASV
Can you give me an explanation of this verse in light of polygamy? Is a woman permitted according to the scriptures to have many husband and considered all of them to be her own?
most certainly, and thank you for your question! Yes. The answer is found in the context which begins in the previous chapter at about vs. 9, where Paul is addressing the loose illicit sexual idolatry (fornication) with prostitutes that took place in idol temples, and not the practice of biblical polygamy. You see, this was written to a Greek congregation, of which many of the women were once prostitutes and the men there used to acquire sex from them. Fornication, which is translated from the Greek word porneia involved the act of non committed sex for money and idolatry. While on the other hand, whether we’re talking monogamy or polygamy, each always consisted biblically of a life long marriage commitment. Not a one time stand. This is why 1 Cor. 7:2 commands one to have a spouse of their own, so this passage has nothing to do with polygamy.
As far as the question on a woman being permitted to have many husbands, the answer is no. The Bible does not permit a woman to have more than one husband period.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen sexual immorality is sex committed outside the marriage. Where does it say sexual idolatry? Also that’s not what that scripture is saying.
How can two become one flesh, that means from your premise that one flesh will be made with many. There’s nothing in those scriptures that suggests that.
Polygamy was practiced in Old Testament or Torah as well as during Jesus times. I find it interesting that it’s not talked about like other things from Old Testament to new? The first marriage was Adam and Eve. Your stance would be that God gave Adam multiple wives, which is not stated in the Bible?
Genesis 2:18-25
caleb cranke thanks for your comment! Actually, 1 Corinthians 6:15-17, Paul was addressing the type of sexual sin believers in the Corinthian Church previously engage in and that some were obviously still doing when he wrote this. It included a former life of temple prostitution, as he stated, “15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” 17But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.” Idol temples prostitution was prevalent in Corinth. Go look up the historical context of Corinth. That’s why he was warning those that have sex with prostitutes that they are actually “becoming one” with them. Which is what the term “One flesh” means. Upon having sex, there is a oneness formed. And yes, this was a sex outside of a verbal marital commitment. Nevertheless, it was idolatrous.
caleb cranke as far as polygyny relating to two becoming one flesh, each marital contract is distinct that a man may take on. Abraham’s marriage to Sarah was distinct from the one he had with Hagar. That’s why when Hagar was sent away, he was still married to Sarah. And so with all other Biblical Polygynous marriages mentioned in Scripture.
Appreciate your take on this topic. Though I am a life long believer, too much has come from a White Christian sensibility mindset and not one of true objectivity. Blessings bro ✊🏿
+Bill thanks for your appreciative comment Brother! You are dead on!
Bill your skin tone has nothing to do with it... leave race out of it
no it's true though I'm I go to a white church and it's all the white western opinions and ways that are beta and feminist and egalitarian and not alpha like the Israelites or Caribbean/African cultures
@@cattywampusmcdoogle I'm white and we all know it's a white thing
@@escalante6510 it's not just a "white thing" I've been to enough so called "black and latino" churches tk know the matriarchal ideology runs thru more than just the "white westerner"
My brother, what would you classify the relations between men and women, during the time of Adam and Eve and their descendants?
According to biblical scripture, they were the father and mother of the human family.
Peace My Brother, if you’re referring to them (Adam and Eve) as being monogamous as opposed to polygamous, I don’t believe there’s enough info within the text conclude God intended they only be monogamous. Many love to point to them as prototype for what marriage should be (monogamous over polygamous). I for believe that would be speaking from where Scripture is silent on the issue. You see, they didn’t live long enough in the garden without sin to know if God never intended them to become polygamous in the sinless state. One would only have to assume that God never intended on polygamy before sin. Another problem for this view is the fact that God nevertheless sanctions it later in Scripture. Showing He has no qualms with it.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I meant in the polygamy sense. I concur with you on the truth of your presentation.
I applaud your thoroughness.
I've not heard many people as in depth on this subject. I will be following you bro. Peace and Love.
Graham Bey thanks for the encouraging words and support my Brother! Please pray for me, because this has been one endeavor that is certainly not short of having it’s challenges.
Many Blessings to you!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen many blessings upon you and your family.
My question is why did got give Adam one wife in genesis then ifnyhat isn't how he would want us to have our relationship with someone. Do you think that doesn't count or does that mean that Polygamy is allowed but not the ideal state of marriage?
Great question! However, the answer is not necessarily. Just because God gave Adam one wife, remember He also gave him no clothes and strictly vegetation to eat. No meat. Therefore, what Adam had in the beginning has definitely changed from before the fall, so just as Scripture supports eating meat and wearing clothes afterwards, so too we see that it supports polygamy. Also, according to Acts 17, we know God decided to make all mankind through one man and one woman. Not multiple woman. Therefore, there’s not enough Scriptural support to say that God would have allowed polygamy or not if there never was a fall, so what God gave Adam in the beginning in having only one wife is not enough to definitively say that monogamy is the only model for all mankind for all times, whether a fall or no fall.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen so in that case would Polygamy be considered not an ideal state of marriage but allowed or is it required?
@@johncolson1817 that’s one of the points I attempted to make. We just don’t know, because we didn’t get the chance to see whether if all of Adam’s descendants would have remained monogamous only, or not, had there been no fall.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I thank you for your words then.
@@johncolson1817 you’re welcome Brother!
Well put together. you can also add Isiaha 4:1- Prophesy still to come Up to 7 women will run to 1 man to take his surname and provide for themselves. It looks like there is going to be a shortage of Godly-men in time to come. The apostate church is keeping so many Muslims that want to convert to Jesus, away from Christianity as they would have to give up all their wives, all but one. Their love for their wives are to big to give up. I do believe that revelations like this, will open the door in the last big revival, for all to come in to have a relationship with Jesus
ow many wives do you have Mike Allen and how do the wives feel about this?
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Why do you ask?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I am curious if you practice this. You claim to believe it so I just wonder if you then practice it.
+@orlaklassen6355
My belief in polygyny has nothing to do with whether I practice it or not. For it is Scripture. Whether if a man has a wife, or not, should he not believe what the Book says all about marriage (polygyny and monogamy), period? Even Paul and Jesus both believed in and taught strongly on the subject of marriage, however neither of them were married. You want to know how my wives feel about polygyny, but should that even matter, because plural marriage is Scripture? Why there are many women today discontented with marriage altogether, while being married themselves, because they have bought into feminine cultural ideals rather than Scripture. Could this be why 70-80% of the divorces in the US are filed by women today? Something that never existed within Scripture.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I didn't mean an offence. I just wondered if you practiced it. The reason i asked about how women felt was because their view (needs) should also be considered. When you have more than one wife the induvial needs of each wife needs to be considered .i.e. I don't believe God wishes the wives to suffer because the man chooses to have more than one wife i.e. if the man is being selfish he shouldn't have 2 ore even 1 wife
@@orlaklassen6355 I didn’t take your questions to be offensive as much as I was trying to make the point, because at the end of the day it doesn’t matter. According to Scripture, it is God Who commanded the man to be “fruitful and to multiply,” as well as give him the authority to take on multiple wives. God also has commanded that the man rule over his wife. Something not taught in many Christian churches today. Therefore, is the man’s prerogative. Plus the wife is commanded to follow her husband wherever he goes in life. The source of women’s pain in this is due to false doctrine.
In today's society how would a Christian man have a marriage ceremony/contract to more than one woman if the laws of this land doesn't consider this type of marriage legal? Is it an understanding between all parties involved? Is it a verbal commitment spoken to God?
Thank you for such great questions! Multiple marriage is always possible if a Christian man pursues it following Biblical principles. First, marriage has always been based upon the contractual agreements between a man and a woman, co-signed by her father or next of kin in headship. This is solely a private contract. Meaning such contracts do not include civil governing authorities as one of the agreeing parties to it. What makes polygyny illegal in the eyes of the state is marrying under multiple state licenses (bigamy). However, when it’s done privately, the state has no jurisdiction. The only drawback to marriage in this route is that it doesn’t come with all the perks the state offers (tax filings and breaks, social security, public assistance, etc.). However, there are financial ways around this like with trusts, power of attorney, assets, savings, etc. As far as a ceremony goes, ceremonies don’t and never has established marriage. It is established Biblically through contract and the consummation (sex). As far as marriage being an understanding between all parties involved is concerned, most people contracting in marriage through the state are clueless as to the bind they put themselves under. God commands that His people not enslave themselves to the secular state. Therefore, marriage from the beginning has always been based upon a verbal commitment spoken before God and the consummation (sexual intercourse) thereof. Hopefully, I’ve answered all that you’ve asked here!
Tammy P, gotcha. Yes, although having a woman’s consent, clarity and openness is understandable to a certain degree, Biblically, it was never mandated. Did Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon need any of their plural wives permission to take on more? No (Exodus 21:10-11). Did God need Israel’s consent to take on Judah as His other bride In Jeremiah 3? No. Does Jesus, the Bridegroom, need the consent of any of the 10 virgins in Matthew 25:1-13? No. Polygyny always ultimately hinges upon the man’s consent and not any current wife he may already have. From the beginning of the fall of mankind, Satan has used feminism, egalitarianism and as time evolved, ‘forced monogamy,’ to strip men of the authority and role domestically and socially (Gen 3; Eph 5:22-33; 1 Cor 11:1-10; This understanding was known even among non-believers in Esther 1:10-22) given by God. The thing that makes this so hard is that we have been forcefully and deceptively led from the truth, so to embrace it seems so difficult. Nevertheless, God stands against those who make unjust laws, put tradition over His law and exalt culture and philosophy above Christ, which is the Word of God.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Yes you helped answer my questions and interesting point about the binds people put themselves in with State marriages. This is all good to know stuff. Thank you!
Tammy P you’re welcome Sis!
Tammy P thank you for your encouraging words!
I sent this to a pastor and was shut down using scripture ive noticed also that in the protestant movement that Martin Luther also took to heart this subject and was jailed i think for twelve years speaking under correction but is still hold in the most high regard for his translation of the Bible and for his ministry and theological knowledge and understanding. It seams that the practice was stopped through pressure from the gouverning body of the day which was the Roman empire and then over years has become something it was not.
It is most certainly true that a man can serve the Lord our God and Jesus Christ and not be an adultery as firstly how does one commit adultery with ones own wife and if there is more than one wife, the are not being cheated on as they are wives of the same man and knowingly are part of the marige relationship and with that in mind how is it then adultery as you a man is sleeping with his own wife and not another man's wife. I am a Christian and not in the hypocritical sense of the Word and my wife has brought this up before me and brought it to my attention and she has said that if I were to have another wife she would not only be comfortable with it but it would be wonderful if not only I had another companion but fir her to have a companion and friend in the family that in her own words says would be a blessing and yes it would be important that there be no stife between them but if the wives are consenting she says why should there be if there is nothing held back from them in any form, she says that people have different gifts and talents and she would welcome another wife without even a thought of it being out of the will of God. I myself have been traditional in my thoughts on this and must admit have been totally against it untill I took a closer veiw and only because my wife considered it and as a woman said that it actually would be great to have an extended family in this manner and said if I ever were to love another it would be hundred percent good with her and encouraged me not to think of traditions but to descern in prayer if it is against the will of God and I must admit when praying in the spirit I have not had the sense of God saying no this is adultery or sin. So as a Christian who would never want to Go against the will of God and I'm not perfect but am seated in Christ and been a practicing Christian for many years have no opinion and that only because I have sought the Word on this and searched scripture and cannot find outright proof unless using scripture that could pertain to this subject out of context. Hope we don't get stoned with words for discussing this topic but I do believe that this has become a subject that needs to be discussed and not swept under the rug as it really should be seen as man in the will of God and not as man lasting after flesh as that is im sure not the truth of this matter, asking me the question if it could be ans id say that one should not judge as the heart of some may abuse this privilege but then again some may be in total rightstanding with God and not be in last but truly in love with his wives and have a wonderful life seeing the Lord our God and loving his wife no matter there be one or more and pe in rightstanding before God in his heart and have a wonderful life loving his wives and children and still be the man of God that he is called to be.
Forgive me as there is no intention to offend anyone and if so pls study scripture and ask pastors and theologians to in love help if in any way this may be proven incorrect but also be willing to make an argument for and against and come to a conclusion of which I'm sure is very difficult as there may be allot that may speak to both sides of the subject matter, but it is time to have this conversation and to leave it in God's hands to approve or disapprove without shadow of doubt.
God bless you all inJesus mighty name and I pray God answer all our prayers as we face this pandemic and pray for wisdom to be in all of tour world leaders that they are touched by Holy Spirit of God and lead to be for the people and to have God's will be done in Jesus mighty name Amen.
Thanks for chiming in Brother! You hit straight on a lot of points. I am certainly not surprised of that pastor’s response. Many pastors today, especially here in the west, are compromised just like the religious leaders that killed Jesus. Yes Martin Luther, many do not know, saw nothing wrong with polygyny. As pertaining to your, I am encouraged to hear that you have such a godly “daughter of Sarah,” as she in your life! You are blessed!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Morning brother
Thanks for the response , no different in the South,. Its really sad that when seeking the truth is encouraged and bringing a matter such as this before God and seeking wise council, there seems to be an unwillingness to give this subject consideration, when as theologians meaning the science of a particular subject, we study the Word of God and quote and use and take high regard of some grate men and woman of God while doing so, ultimately it is the Holy Spirit that is our teacher and that must be considered and in fact must be our first point of call. When looking into scripture we should understand that every word has been given man by divine inspiration from God unto man, if the Word if God Jesus is, was the Word and the Word was with God and is God and inspired man to follow and obey every word spoken by the mouth of God and not add or subtract even one word as that may distort the truth, and if we study the Word of God it first be literal and there after revelational meaning receiving divine revelation from Holy Spirit, should we not considder that God in His all knowing divinity who was from the beginning would not be the God of confusion because as I understand it He is not a God of confusion but of love and has given us His Word that we may understand His will His laws, statutes precepts, statutes, blessings and ways that we may gain knowledge and allong with knowledge understanding as knowledge puffs up and that in itself is bordering on rebellion against God's Word who is Christ Jesus Himself. Would God be vague on any matter concerning man I am sure He would not and hence gave us the law and then the new and improved covenant that sums up the law and all the prophets and said to love God with all our heart soul and body and to love our neighbor as we love ourselves sums up the whole of the law and the prophets, Jesus also said thar this new covant comes with better promises meaning that now because He has assended to our Heavenly Fathers right hand we are left with the Holy Spirit, the same Holy Spirit that rose Jesus from death to life and will teach us all things pertaining to God and righteous living leading unto holiness in Christ Jesus and to His glory. Reading the laws of Moses and then summing up what Jesus said himself by quoting the ten comandments in New the testament, it must be noted that there is never a time where God has rejected, outright said it and made it plain in the old or new restaments that marrying more than one wife is sin, look at what God hates and what sin encompasses and its vast but no question or doubt this subject we are speaking of does not apear anywhere in scripture and in fact there is more of a case even theologically speaking to make an argument that there is no word spoken by the mouth of God prohibiting man from a relationship of this nature but more so if at all we see as with divorce that it is not God permissible will that man get divorced but He has given His permissible will that in certain cases Ge allows divorce, now that we clearly may and can deduct from scripture but can we cleary deduct anything about multiple wives , well no, I have not found it unless we are really trying to use scripture to find a reason im sure I myself could convince myself that in that way that this is sin and not God's permitted will for man. Truth is it is found as permitted by God and nowhere clearly in the bible can it be found not permitted by God and even if the arguments is that it is not permitted it is permissible as we se that clearly in the Word of God. I would apreciate it if maybe people would cinsidder that here in Africa many times have multiple wives and are not all of the Chritian faith, considder when bringing a man to Christ Jesus here in Africa abd then saying that now that you have received Jesus you must divorce your wives and keep one , well would that wife then who may have not ever commited adultery now divorce her husband or the husband one or more of his wives? I'm sure that is clear in the bible that its a no absolutely not. Lets preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and his kingdom come and salvation to all as when we go to be with Jesus where He is there will be no male or female no Jewish nor Greek no slave but all set free of sin and the consequence of sin eternal death. Lets not complicate the literal word of God by using translations of man and take God at His Word and honor the living Word of God by forefilling His great commission to make diciples of all nations and tounges and not look to proving or disproving a subject matter that if God placed importance and high regard on would clearly state is sin and I'm sure that both those who beleive or dont beleive in having one wife or may have more than one could be of no real importance and may even be placed in the scripute that says respect the customs of the jews and the greeks and become as one of them in order not to not offend anyone that by all means we use wisdom in this that we by all means win souls for Christ Jesus as that is what the whole of heaven rejoices over bringing one soul to Christ Jesus and lets love one another and our great and loving allmighty God and His Son of His love Jesus Christ and bring no spirit of stiff amongst the children of God over a matter that has no influence over our eternal destination for now we know in part but then we shall know in full and while here lets concentrate on kingdom dynamics and principals and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and His salvation using our best gifts and all our talents to bring a broken and lost world to salvation in Christ Jesus, healing the sick, raising the dead, casting out demons, opening blind eyes and having the lame walk having signs and wonders follow us and loving humanity as God loves and has instructed us to love and put asside all arguments, discord, strife, malice, anger anything that hinders us from forefilling the great commission given us by God in Jesus Christ having the same Holy Spirit living on the inside of us and where we find matters such as this matter and have no clear word for or against lets not judge one another as I'm sure God would certainly have made it very clear if it was a matter of such importance that we could lose our place of salvation in Christ Jesus and have our names blotted from the book of life if it were a matter of eternal life or death either in hell or in heaven and I'm convinced it is not and hence lets accept that we may choose upon this matter and respect that we have a choice that will not seperate us from the love of God but discord and strife and every evil thing comes from the hearts of man and then what is in the heart flows out of the mouth but we should have hearts after God's own heart and that is to love Him and one another and if we have anything to debate about that cannot clearly be found in the bible lets take it to God and allow Him to interpret the truth of it, make our request known to God and if this is a request that we are taking to God then lets do that and leave it in His hands and if and when the answer is clear may we respect and love one another as we are all in Christ Jesus and do what He asks of us and lead this broken world to salvation in Him the only way the truth and the life the only door to salvation and eternal life in Him in heaven where our heavenly Father is. Praise be to the one true God three in one Father Son and Holy Spirit in Christ Jesus name.
Gid bless brother.
Greetings,
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I love you my brother, thank you so so so so so so much for digging in the bible for us, I'm gonna be honest, i really dislike reading books in general, I'd rather watch instead, I'm new to bible study and im on the road to become closer with the Lord, I love you so much man, God bless❤️❤️❤️🤙🏾🤙🏾💫💫💫💫 (*ﾉ・ω・)ﾉ♫ 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
+Lebohang Mokoena and the love is mutual for you! The very reason I’m driven to create content like this is to help make the truth easily accessible. You’re more than welcomed and I encourage you to study, pray and fast and become closer to our Lord. Many Blessings!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Sir is there a platform where i could ask you questions about the Bible and the lord when i get confused? Instead of the comment section? I just would like to get insight on few topics from other brothers and sisters because I've never really talked about Christianity with anyone else other than my mom, I've been enclosed in this small bubble for the longest time and I'd be really blessed to get someone like you to see the answers i have concluded to ever since i started fasting for myself in order to know what the Lord wants me to do.
Lebohang Mokoena most certainly you can follow me on instagram.com/mikeallenbiz. Or email me at truebiblediggers@gmail.com.
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Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
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- Mike Allen
This is the conclusion I came to when I researched it a few years ago. One question I have is about fornication being spoken by Paul as a Sin? I've wondered what that means just causal sex? Or is sex considered marriage rather than say state laws etc.
Thank you for such a significant question as it relates to polygyny. It’s interesting you ask this, while currently, it is a topic I’ve been studying closely, myself.
Helps Word Studies Lexicon translates the word fornication, Paul used in 1 Corinthians 6, as, “porneía (the root of the English terms "pornography, pornographic") which is derived from pernaō, "to sell off") - properly, a selling off (surrendering) of sexual purity; promiscuity of any (every) type.” Therefore, in essence, my brother, fornication involves prostituting oneself sexually.
While Strong’s Concordance defines it as - whoredom; met with idolatry.
That be said, fornication then is prostitution coupled with idolatry, making fornication distinct from adultery, homosexuality, bestiality or any other sexual sin. Fornication is unique and is often misinterpreted and misunderstood. So when we look at the context of 1 Corinthians 6, we see this exact definition, in verses 15-20, when Paul said,
“15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.”
Thus, in context, Paul was addressing a congregation with those who had come out of a former life of idolatrous temple prostitution. They were being warned by him, that to engage in such sexual whoredoms was to “become one flesh with harlots conjoining them with Christ.” Which was simply blasphemous. However, Paul was also making the point that this act was so heinous, as it made the two “become one flesh,” upon having sexual intercourse. Making then having sex with prostitutes “a union” in God’s eyes, because sex consummates a marital union. For it binds a marriage in God’s eyes, but there must be a commitment connected with it. Not necessarily under the state though, because state required licenses are relatively new and not Scriptural in nature.
In other words, what makes casual sex so evil is that sex unites us with whomever we engage with, in God’s eyes, so to have sex with a prostitute, or casually with a woman on a first date or with someone else’s wife is wrong, because it takes place without intending to commit, in mind. For God intended sex to be sacred for a life of commitment. Period! That is why Adam gave the law that “a man must make the commitment to leave father and mother before having intercourse,” or else it would be an aspect of fornicating oneself without a life of oneness in exchange for sexual pleasure, money, and, or idolatry.
In fact, if you look at this word fornication closely, it always consisted of sexual promiscuity met with idol worship, throughout Scripture. Therefore, I encourage you to search the Word on this one. I know I said a lot, but hopefully it helps!
Paul is talking about fornication
@@charleswebsterjr.6350 and how do you define what fornication is then?
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Wow this all sound so truth with the bible so look into this more deeper but my question is, if God don't mind it, how do u find multiple wife's to be with?
+CS77 Smith thank you for comment! Yes it is nothing but truth. Any man that decides to endeavor this path, I say, should allow the Spirit of God’s Word to guide him in the process. Therefore, definitely dig deep first into all of what God’s says on this subject. Pray, fast and get oneself in order financially developed. Possessing emotional control is necessary to lead as well as becoming brutally truthful, because a man cannot walk this path and be living in fear of telling a woman that she’s not going to be the only one. Then from there, my Brother, women will always be easier to find, even women here in the west that generally are not built for polygyny.
Greetings,
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Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
This was very good content. I love the word of God. All that was said is definitely true. Unfortunately polygamy will never be accepted because it is a definitive proof that we are still under Roman rule and influence (aka the Fourth Kingdom which will produce a king that will try to change their festivals and laws and they will be placed under his control Daniel 7:23-25). Only one kinglike priest from the Roman Empire deposed kings, altered scripture and oppressed Christians. This office still exists today. If you know you know.
Thank you for the encouraging words!
The reason Biblical Polygamy is not the accepted the most here is because it represents Yah’s nature so much, His salvation plan that is intended to be a blessing to all nations of the world and it shows He’s in covenant with His people, individually and collectively.
Now talk about changing festivals and laws, deposing kings and oppressing followers of The Way who the Roman Empire called, “Christians,” all of which are an attack on polygyny. Which in turn, all of which are an attack on the very nature of Yah. For men are created to reflect Him in this world through having preeminence in marriage by not just taking one bride, but plural. Modern men today find themselves deposed in the home as being kings and oppressed by being legally forced to undergo a marriage festival (ceremony) to so called ‘solemnize’ it and are also forbidden the right to marry polygamously as The Father does in this very same Roman Empire you speak of.
Yes polygamy will never be accepted under this regime which is why men of Yah today are choosing to never undergo contracting with state marriage licensing. State marriage licensing is the ultimate change at variance against Biblical Marriage, period. See 1 Timothy 4:1-3.
Deuteronomy 21-15 and if the first born son be hers( that was hated) it's not teaching polygamy it's the law of the firstborn the text aim more at a divorce then him having two wives at the same time..
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I keep hearing these thoughts that God is going to give me two wives. As a boy I had a vision of having three women taking care of me. How do you know it's God speaking to you about having multiple wives verse your own lust? Or worse a demon speaking to you?
Pray and even fast for interpretation while you search the Scriptures to test your dreams in light of Yah’s Word. Listen intentionally to what He says through doing all of these Spiritually disciplines. Also, Id say give it time before prematurely acting on what you may think it is saying vs. it may not be that the dream is not communicating. Remember it took Joseph years before seeing his childhood dreams manifest.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Thanks Mike. I really don't want to hurt women or be a bad man and so It's been something that I've been wrestling with. I've always wanted to be a man of honor and be a safe place for women and children. If God wants me to be monogamous I would want to do that. If he wants me to love more than one woman I'd want it to be life giving to everyone involved. The women, children and myself. And yeah I don't want to act prematurely either cause that could go bad really fast. I'll keep this in prayer and leave it up to him. And that's a great point about Joesphs dream. Even just in life in general. Huh. Good point.
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You’re welcome Brother! Sounds like your heart is in the right place. However, in either route, whether in polygyny or monogamy, being a Biblical patriarchal upstanding man of integrity is what’s always most important. To ensure that there is no fowl play on your part, always be brutally honest. This way you will remain above reproach. No one could legitimately blame you then for somehow being “a dog,” so if there’s any hurt you may cause, let it be for telling the truth. However, as we both know, in this western culture that produces fears within our women today, they are going to likely feel some type of fretful way, regardless, when it comes to the idea of sharing their man. This way, the fear is not being caused by the truth, nor you, but from a godless culture that has let them down.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Thanks Mike. Yeah. I'll have to really prayer about before I start a relationship. It's pretty scary to talk about but yeah If this is what God has for me I'd want to be upfront about it so that they have the choice to say yes or no to that lifestyle. I'll pray about it and see what happens. I mean if it's just myself being silly then It probably won't happen and nothing to worry about lol. I was staunchly monogamy only but you and Pete Rambo really opened my eyes to see that Polygyny is actually biblical. I'm like What??! No man that can't be real. And it's like Oh snap that actually makes sense lol. Thanks for your advice and content sir. God bless you.
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Thank you Brother and you’re welcome! Also, bear in mind, whether if you decide to add on at some in your relationship, it is a wise policy to tell not only your current woman and definitely any future woman that you believe in polygyny and will likely add to your household another woman. This keeps you in the driver’s seat and sets the tone in your household that you uniquely have the prerogative to be polygynous. This way you eliminate any expectations of you restricting yourself to prescriptive monogamy. It allows your woman to understand that the power to add on lies with you and not her consent.
I am coming to see that the principle of polygny is not a sin as I am studying the word of God more and more. While I do believe that God's ORIGINAL ideal was for one man and one woman (God only brought out ONE woman from Adam's rib, not 2, 3, or 4), because we live in a world outside of God's original intent, there may be various reasons for a man having more than one wife. I do not believe that EVERY reason is a dishonorable one. HOWEVER, I think the REAL issue with this subject (and others) is when we get to the HEART of men (and women). The reasons WHY a man wants to marry more than one wife. If we following the biblical teachings there were (and should be) regulations that would have any man seriously considering whether he was financially, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically ABLE to CARE for more than one wife. While majority of men may run after the fantasy of wanting many wives, majority of men CANNOT handle the responsibility of having plural wives and that is what needs to be considered. So did God allow men to have multiple wives? Yes! Were these men of God who were also blessed by God? Yes! However if a man cannot render to EACH wife what is due her WHOLLY then he is not qualified to have the blessing of such queens. Blessings brother.
Thank you so much for your thoughts shared on this topic my Sister!
Although I’d say that we’re actually not sure if Adam would’ve never sinned or that he would’ve not taken on an additional wife, I do agree with most of your take on this. For Scripture is not clear on whether polygyny would’ve been actualized into practice, or not, if there had been no fall. Why I say this is also due to the menstrual cycle of a wife and the daily sexual drive of an average man. A woman, at most can only deliver birth twice in one year, while a man can literally impregnate up to about 2,000 women in one given year, as he is not limit to cycle nor a “clock.” This makes him procreating machine as compared to the woman! For we just can’t say definitely, at this point, that God only intended one wife for Adam or for his sons thereafter, or not.
As for most men not being able to manage polygyny today, we also have to ask, is that a design of creation, or is that also due to a system we live in that is stacked against polygyny altogether? I mean, if we look at state marriage policy and tax codes, plus the cultural biases against it, we’ll find that gay marriage seems more doable in today’s world.
Nevertheless, I’d love to hear your take on my reply! Many Blessings!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen God built men and women differently.
I, from a purely logical and Christian point of view, see the fact that a woman can only give birth around 9 months after conceiving and that a man can, as you said, impregnate multiple women in whatever space of time, be it 9 months, more or less, shows that men were created by God in such a way to be fruitful and multiple in a way that women cannot, therefore, proves the idea of polygyny to be promoted by God.
Thank you for the video, may God continue to bless you for speaking the truth.
@@rasthehead I’m glad you appreciate this so commonly overlooked fact of how God has made men vs. women. Culture loves to falsely convey that men and women are the same, especially as it relates to prescriptive monogamy. However, how God has designed us, respectfully, says otherwise. Thanks and many blessings to you and yours!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I pray that content like yours and yours specifically reaches many men who have the ears to hear so that the truth can become widespread, In Jesus' Name.
@@rasthehead Amen to that and thank you!
There were laws about slaves in the Old Testament, as stated in this video, so does that validate slavery?
+Mike Mooney yes it does, but certainly not the slavery kind of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. There is a godly-humane system codified in the Law.
I have a story. I have been with my husband for 11 years he fell in love with a woman at his job. After that. He had many talks with her and she really wanted him to the point of doing polygamy. I knew nothing of any of this he than started having conversations with me about polygamy not knowing he was trying to put it in my head that it make sense cause he really wanted to be with this girl.
I was heart broken
Because he had already did everything behind my back and try to manipulate me into it with out telling or even asking. I felt used and tricked.
I cried so much. I really am interested in it and want to make him happy by giving him that but the way he went about it. I was not included. I felt cheated
He was hurt from hurting me and broke it off with the girl but I still want to give him that
Right now it’s hard. I have to give my man to share. Like im selfish.
Thanks for sharing and being vulnerable with your story Sis! I’m sorry to hear of your pain!
I have some questions to ask:
1. Why is not getting in the way of him having his right hard?
2. What makes you selfish?
3. Why do you think he was not upfront and forthcoming before getting involved with this woman on his job?
It was a mike drop moment when you said God is a polygamist referring to the 10 virgins.
Thanks for the appreciation! I’m glad you’re diggin’ that one!
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I agree with your teachings. I'm just curious are you a polyganist?
+Christopher Gordon thanks for your comment! Glad to hear you agree! Technically I have crossed that line of having multiple wives but am not at this time at liberty to legally disclose anything further.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I understand and appreciate your response
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Best to fear God. Fhen you will find the true answers, and be careful about preaching, because in the same Biblie, God lets the preachers know that they cary a bigger duty and will judged more harshly. God bless your soul.
Thank you for commenting! I agree that preaching and preaching straight is of that duty. Sorry to say, most Christian and many Hebrew preachers are lying against this truth of marriage. There are absolutely no laws against polygyny in Scripture, and it is a form of marriage God has used to build His Kingdom, protect it and bless it. Not to mention, polygyny even reveals the very character and nature of God. However, Christian seminaries fail to see or teach that for some reason, so I guess there are a lot of its preachers that are simply going to hell…
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen why then is it written that good crated man and woman, Adam and Eve in His picture and did not create Adam and multiple women?
@@user-bh1dp4wg3v good question!
Even Scripture teaches us not to “despise the day of small things.” Starting small has generally been His blueprint then to be “Fruitful and multiply” from there on. Jesus started with one disciple at a time and then said He was coming back for multiple wise brides in Matthew 25:1-13. Plus, Paul taught that it was God’s intention to start with only one man to populate the entire earth from there in Acts 17:26-27.
My question to you is why did God choose to give Jacob 4 wives and produce 12 sons from them if He was somehow so against it? (See Gen. 29:31 to 30:24; 33:1-7; Ruth 4:11)
Also, why did God give David His first 7-18 wives prior to committing adultery if He was somehow against the practice in 2 Samuel 12:7-8?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen the answer about Jacob I read in another similar discusion was that that happened and later caused a lot of trouble. It is more like God tolerated what happended but then trouble started. And for David, also like Salamon, Salamon had 700 wifes and 300 concubine and God was not happy with Salamon and he had to face consequences, where he did not live by his own words of wisdom.
I understand your line of reasoning. It sound reasonable. Also for Abraham, he made a kid with another woman, but God did not like it in the end and enabled him and his wife to get Isak.
I liked a comment that I heard that what is described in the Biblie thst it is not necessarily prescribed.
+David Trojko No Brother, neither did the people nor the elders in Israel see that Jacob’s polygyny was somehow a cause for a lot of trouble later on. In fact, the people of Ruth’s day were centuries removed from the time of Jacob when they said,
“all the people who were in the court, and the elders, said, “We are witnesses. May the LORD make the woman who is coming into your home like Rachel and Leah, both of whom built the house of Israel; and may you achieve wealth in Ephrathah and become famous in Bethlehem” (Ruth 4:11). Now after reading this, what “troubles” were there that was somehow caused “later” on are you referring to?
As for Solomon, God was not happy with him, because he had a 1,000 wives, but the problem God had with him was in marrying pagan wives. That’s why 1 Kings 11:1-2, reads,
“1But King Solomon loved many foreign women, as well as the daughter of Pharaoh: women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, and Hittites- 2from the nations of whom the Lord had said to the children of Israel, “You shall not intermarry with them, nor they with you. Surely they will turn away your hearts after their gods.” Solomon clung to these in love.”
As for Abraham, although God only told Abraham that the promised son would come through Sarah in Gen. 18, after she had already given him her handmaiden in Gen. 16. You see, God never specified that it would come through Sarah until after Abraham had taken on a second wife and had a son with her. Abraham was only acting out of the limited information he had and not disobedience. See my 4 part series on Abraham: czcams.com/video/xcVZRti6kNI/video.htmlsi=FvmaSGzUgrL_7aLf.
The real problem here Bother is that western Christianity has lied to us. It was created through Greco-Roman customs that go against the Biblical practices of marriage that include outlawing polygyny.
But then how come it isn't allowed for a woman to have multiple husband? I'm no feminist but it does seem unfair.
Great question! I’ll try to explain it by asking the questions, does children in the household get to do all of what their parents do, while under their headship? Does a football team get to decide and do what the coach does? Does workers in a company have the same privileges and get to make the very decisions that the owner makes? The answer to all of these are no, and the reason why is because they each are designed to function by having a ranking order, so too when God created men and women for marriage, He designed a ranking order. 1 Corinthians 11:3, reads, “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.” Why? God has established a hierarchy within humanity where the 8 & 9th verses of this same chapter, says, “8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9 Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man.” Therefore, it’s certainly not due to God wanting to be “fair” in this regard, but that He has decided to establish order. All teams and organizations work best when there is leadership in place just as God is leader over all of creation.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen how would you distinguish the difference between what you just explained and "women are below men"? To me what you said here sounds like "men are in higher rank so they can have multiple wives but women don't have the right to do that because they are in lower rank". I do think that men are the leader of households, but that doesn't necessarily mean women are in lower rank and below than men.
@@Zz1005cf what I just said are not my words. The Bible says that wives are to rank under their husbands, saying, “22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24) It also says here that she must rank herself under her husband in “all things.” Meaning, she ranks under him in God’s eyes. Why? Because she was created to be the husbands helper, not equal, according to Genesis 2:18. However, we live in a day where woman are taught to do and be everything that a man is and can when they cannot.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen So simple and SO TRUE! Good words!
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Was not God's original design was for a Man to leave his father and Mother and be joined to His wife and they two shall become one flesh. It started with Adam and Eve (Genesis 2:24).
Thanks for your question! Yes it was, and what does that have to do with a man being joined with two different wives, Biblically?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen The law of first mention, meaning what God says first He will not change his mind on. His plan is one man and one wife, becoming one, creating union.
@@sierraknight7649 so how does the law of first mention then apply to other things God first prescribed? I mean, do you not wear clothing, out in public, to cover your nakedness today? Do you not eat any meat or animal product if you’re not a vegan today? In other words, if the law of first mention applies to marriage established in the Garden, then why does it not apply to these other to examples in question?
So I as a woman should be okay with my husband having other wives?
Thanks for your comment!
Most certainly if that would be his vision.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I respect your choice but I would rather he kill me or I die before 25.... It just doesn't sit right with me... She can have him
@@bryannajames1555 and I thank you for your brutality honest and respectful response! When concerning God’s thoughts on how marriage should function that went so against the norm of His day, Jesus said to His disciples after they said to Him, “10….If this is the case between a man and his wife, it is better not to marry.”
11“Not everyone can accept this word,” He replied, “but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way; others were made that way by men; and still others live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.” (Matthew 19:10-12, BSB)
In other words, not all can except what Scripture truly says about marriage, period.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen but marriage initially was for one man and one woman as it said in genesis then after when sin stepped in that's when the polygny stepped in.. Too it was a pagan practice that was adapted in that day... Just like nowadays people do a lot of wrong things and people often ask why don't God stop it I think its similar to that.... I think God just allowed it but didn't advice or told men to marry as much women as they want...Also what about the problems that came with it solomon being lead to idolatry, I think it was David having to flee his own home.... Ect... Paul even mentioned that having A(one) wife would lead a man to worldly desires much more for many wives. As I said I respect your opinion this something I will never accept or consider it I'd rather be single or die early... Than live a life that I know I would never be happy with... Just the thought of it doesn't sit right with me.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen even in the scripture you just quoted God talked about monogamy... Male and Female.
How do you interpret these verses? Isn't Jesus commanding monogamy here? 27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[a] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
+christianmarsh Rosey adultery is lusting or having sex with another man’s wife, while desiring an eligible single woman is lawful. We see this in Deuteronomy 21:10-14.
Was it sinful for a man with multiple wives to sleep with more than one at a time? I don't know of a scripture that specifically says it was sinful.
+@kevseb66 yes Scripture condemns orgies.
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@@digginintheword-withmikeallen The scriptures that mention "orgies" are all in the New Testament with the context being activity outside the marriage covenant. I don't know of any Old Testament passages forbidding a man married to multiple woman from have relations with more than one at a time?
@@kevseb66 actually, there’s evidence throughout the OT. Sexing multiple partners at the same time is what pagans did, which Yahweh condemned.
•Wisdom of Solomon 14:23,
““For whilst they slew their children in sacrifices, or used secret ceremonies, or made revellings of strange rites;”
•2 Maccabees 6:14,
““For the temple was filled with riot and revelling by the Gentiles, who dallied with harlots, and had to do with women within the circuit of the holy places, and besides that brought in things that were not lawful.”
Reveling/carousing/orgies are idolatrous parties that included having wild sex within multiple partners at the same time. Baal-peor = "lord of the gap" the deity worshipped at Peor with probable licentious rites in Numbers 25:1-4,
“1 ¶ While Israel remained at Shittim, the people began to play the harlot with the daughters of Moab.
2 For they invited the people to the sacrifices of their gods, and the people ate and bowed down to their gods.
3 So Israel joined themselves to fnBaal of Peor, and the LORD was angry against Israel.
4 The LORD said to Moses, “Take all the leaders of the people and execute them fnin broad daylight before the LORD, so that the fierce anger of the LORD may turn away from Israel.”
A man having sex with his multiple wives at same time encourages them to be in extreme temptation of licentious activity towards one other in doing so. This is why Jacob’s wives instead bartered for individual time with him, because a ménage à trois was not what they practiced. (Gen 30:14-8) Plus it doesn’t matter if he is married to them or not, for a man becomes one with whatever woman he penetrates.
Clearly you recognize the difference between sex engaged in under a God honored covenant vs. sex outside of it. If a man wanted to be with more than one wife at a time I don't see where the issue is. Also a husband and wife are one both in and outside the bedroom. It does not begin and end with sex. An actual law against it would be evidence which you have not cited.
@@kevseb66 outside of any law saying that threesomes are admissible, the only Biblical example of it I’m aware of it is in idolatrous revelry/sexual immorality given in the OT. One factor you don’t seem to consider is that the marriage covenant is between the man and each woman respectively. Not collectively. In other words, his women are married only to him, and if you see no problem with it, then you don’t need me to demonstrate otherwise. Have at it with your revelry sir.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
1) The verses in Jeremiah are not literal. They use the marriage motif as allegory and metaphor. Unless you believe that Judah was a committed adultery with "stones" - literally - you have to read that as allegory.
2) The verses in Matthew 25 are even more clearly analogy. Jesus was not a "polygamist," unless you also believe he was homosexual. He could not be the "husband" of both women AND men unless he was homosexual. Again, since we know Jesus wasn't homosexual, you can be pretty certain he's not a polygamist, either. Also, the verse begins with, "Then shall the kingdom of heaven be LIKENED unto ten virgins, which took their lamps..." The word, "LIKENED," tells you this is about to be a PARABLE. Further, it does not say "Jesus is LIKENED," it says, "the kingdom of heaven." And, the "kingdom of heaven" can't be married, but it can be used as a PARABLE.
3) Whatever was a "legitimate form of marriage" is not the standard for biblical marriage. There are many things that were done in the first century that were wrong. There are many things done today that are wrong. Just to say it was "legitimate" based on the fact it took place is not sufficient. Especially when there are verses in the bible that clearly state "one man, one wife." Also, just because Josephus said it was "common" for "Israelite men to have many wives," does not mean it was Godly. It was also "common" for Israelites to have slaves or condone slavery - the bible even lays out cases for and rules that govern slavery. However, I bet you're not cool with slavery. That's funny, though: You promote the idea of a man with more than one wife, but, I'm gonna bet you won't record a video on the way the bible views slavery.
More could be said here, but I'm busy so, I'll just say this: Brother, get right with God. Stop trying to defend sleeping around.
Sorry, but it is you who are wrong, wrong, wrong! Maybe if you were a bit more careful in what you’ve heard me say, you would have caught that I am not saying that God’s marriage in Jeremiah was literal, nor was I saying Christ’s was in Matthew 25. However, you are correct that each reference are both allegorical and metaphorical. Note, that’s why I stated in the video that God spoke of His relationship with Israel and Judah as that of a Spiritual union because of His covenant with them. This is why He references Deuteronomy 24:1-4 in the beginning of Jeremiah 3 to show that the oneness He shared with each of them and how they broke it through unfaithfulness with other gods. Similarly, when referencing Jesus, I did use the word “imagery” to denote that His marriage to His Church was not a literal one. Do you get it now? Therefore, there was no reason to think I was likening Him to a homosexual.
Now on your point on legitimate forms of marriage during Biblical times, I would caution you here! The OT was sanctioned just as much as the NT by God. Neither Covenant came by way of any human authored governance. Therefore, when any Prophet or Apostle wrote Scripture, it was always sanctioned by God Himself (2 Tim. 3:16-17). Thus, when God permitted polygyny’s practice in Exodus 21:7-11, this was more than just some “legitimate form” of marriage, it was simply godly marriage authorized by God Himself (Note, It was God who laid down the laws of Moses that include polygyny in Exodus 20-21). That is also why, God did not feel David having more than one wife was not okay. For it was He (God) Who actually gave his (David’s) wives to him, and if he’d (David) wanted more, God would have gladly given it to him” (2 Sam. 12:7-8).
Now although there were “many things done,” as you say, in ancient days “that were wrong,” we must distinguish what is Biblical law verses secular culture. For this is yet another reason why I even referenced Josephus, in the first place. To show that Biblical Hebrew culture was distinct from Greco-Roman pagan culture that eventually encroached the Church’s perspectives on marriage in the centuries to follow. For it was the Greeks and Romans who were against polygyny in public marriage, not God.
On slavery, in fact, I totally agree with the concept of Biblical Slavery. However, I certainly do draw distinctions from the ugly form practiced during the Trans-Saharan and Trans-Atlantic slave trades from what we have in the Bible. Both of which were ungodly in nature. Now just because there are heathen forms of slavery practiced within the world, that doesn’t make slavery, in and of itself, wrong.
Now, would you please show me those verses that clearly communicate that there are to be “one man and one wife,” in marriage?
And for the record, promoting biblical polygyny is not the same as promoting sleeping around. For polygyny is about building family. For instance, there are many men who sleep around, but polygyny entails commitment to all of whom a man may marry.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I appreciate your reply. If the scriptures you use are allegory, then that ends the discussion - God was not a "polygamist," and, neither was Jesus. Second, you chose to ignore something I wrote. So, I'll add it again here: The verses in Matthew 25 are even more clearly analogy. Jesus was not a "polygamist," unless you also believe he was homosexual. He could not be the "husband" of both women AND men unless he was homosexual. Again, since we know Jesus wasn't homosexual, you can be pretty certain he's not a polygamist, either.
You pick "polygamy" as the part of these stories to go with. But, for some reason you don't argue Jesus is homosexual. It was also "common" for Israelites to have slaves or condone slavery - the bible even lays out cases for and rules that govern slavery. However, I bet you're not cool with slavery. That's funny, though: You promote the idea of a man with more than one wife, but, I'm gonna bet you won't record a video on the way the bible views slavery.
Once more, I appreciate your reply.
@@mayr.mccheese4704 excuse me, I accidentally sent my reply before completing it the first time!
@@mayr.mccheese4704 also, I’d like to add, God and Jesus’ use of polygyny as imagery concerning themselves further demonstrates their reference to it as being a legitimate practice in
Biblical culture.
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Thanks alot brother 🙏🙏
+Amollo Millicent you’re welcome Sis!
I've been cast aside for believing this... it's true.
+@Dacheddaman well because of your faith and willingness to be cast aside, then that means that the world is not worthy of you, according to Heb. 11:27-40. For you are in good company…
1_Timothy 4:1-3a: the "Spirit speaketh expressly" and prophesied of the time of "forbidding to marry". Today's churches, (some unwittingly) "speaking lies in hypocrisy", would forbid the marriages of Abraham, Jacob/Israel, Moses, Gideon, and David ---not to mention forbidding how God described Himself in Polygamist terms in Jeremiah 3 and Ezekiel 23, and how Christ the perfect Savior did likewise when He referred to Himself as the Polygamous Bridegroom in the Parable of the Ten Virgins in Matthew 25:1-13. Indeed, such churches would not even allow such holy ones in the Scriptures to bring their polygamous families into such present-day churches. And yet, clearly, the Spirit expressly foretold of this profoundly obvious (even though often unwitting) hypocrisy, in 1_Timothy 4:1-3a.
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It seems it was tolerated in the Old Testament but if you can't show me that it is tolerated to do in the New Testament then you have no debate with me ..
Would you say that Jesus didn’t tolerate homosexuality during His early ministry?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen stop playing you know what I asked you
@@Ricky-wu5mm I was not evading your question. I was simply trying to make a point in giving you the answer to your question by asking you about Jesus’ position on homosexuality. That’s all.
@@Ricky-wu5mm in other words, not everything we know to be wrong was mentioned by Jesus or His Apostles. However, we know whether they are right or wrong, because the law is more exhaustive with how to govern day to say affairs. That’s why the Apostles taught completely from the OT while writing the NT. For it is still Scripture. That’s why Paul said,
“16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work” (2 Tim. 3:16-17).
@@Ricky-wu5mm so are you a throw away the OT believer?
These are all from the Old Testament and in these days it’s illegal so I’m not sure that God is still for polygyny just because he was before based on the way times were then
Thanks for your comment! However, what is actually wrong with quoting from the OT when 33% of the NT teaches from and quotes from it? Haven’t you read when Paul wrote concerning the OT in Romans 15:4, that, “For whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope.”
Also, he wrote in 2 Timothy 3:15-17, that, “15 From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.”
As far as polygyny goes, it’s always been legal as long as one doesn’t apply for a state marriage license in the US. Instead make a private contract and have it notarized. Once the state gets involved, couples are under its jurisdiction.
God is still for polygyny, because the Bible states that it is His people who change from His standards. Not Him. That’s why in Malachi 3:6-7, it reads,
“6 “For I am the Lord, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
7 Yet from the days of your fathers
You have gone away from My ordinances
And have not kept them.
Return to Me, and I will return to you…”
Even concerning Jesus, the Bible says in Hebrews 13:8,
“8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.”
Now as far as how things are today as opposed to back then, did you know that polygamy is yet now practiced in most cultures of the world (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy). Only where western culture dominates is where it is fought against. Remember polygyny as well as all of Biblical culture is not of western but of eastern origins.
Legality has nothing to do with because the word says that forbidding to marry is the doctrine of devil's
@@sonsofthunder7944 so true! Thanks!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I appreciate this video and thanks for the response! I do believe that it’s not for everyone and it’s not a requirement of being a true Christian though!
This is lies educated your self your worth more ✨ praise To Most High 🙌
Thanks for your comment! Since I’m worth more, do demonstrate to me where I have somehow veered from the truth!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen make sure your not breaking most highs laws of marriage... that first wife had to die b4 he was married again
@@4422carter I never heard that the first wife had to die first before he takes on another wife! Please provide Scripture of this claim. Or else this is nothing but hearsay and heresy at best!
Ecclesiasticous. Roman chap 7 n 8 u know a woman cannot interfere with another woman husband my luv u and I know b4 checking... tell lower self to stop questioning higher self my luv !
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen vice versa father God is jealous of any soul praising any other God ... we are made in his image scripture but better yet holy spirit or sound mind...bka common sense
Watched both part 1 and 2.
Please educate yourself. God may have condoned polygamy under certain circumstances; however, this is NOT God's vision of union. You are confusing what is describes vs what is prescribed. What I see is an excuse to not practice sexual discipline and commitment to you WIFE (singular, as God PRESECRIBES throughout the bible).
+Sierra Knight thanks for your comment! If “God (only) condoned polygamy under certain circumstances,” as you say, then what was the actual circumstance or what is it that proves He no longer does? Why does He no longer condone Polygamy today, is what I’m asking?
If I’m so called “confusing what God describes with what He prescribes,” then why did He prescribe how polygyny ought to be practiced in Exodus 21:10-11, when He said specifically, “10 If he (a man that has decided to) takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marriage rights. 11 And if he does not do these three for her, then she shall go out free, without paying money.” Why does God give specific prescription as to how a man is supposed to manage having more than one wife at a given time and not just out right forbid it, if he so called never prescribes polygamy’s practice? Please explain why did He not just prohibit it if it deals with “not practicing sexual discipline,” as you put it?
On you seeing that God only “prescribes WIFE, singular throughout the Bible.“ However, to the contrary, was it not God Himself who told King David that it was He (God) who gave him (David) his plural wives he (David) had and would have given him (David) more, when He said in 2 Samuel 12:7-8,
“7…. “You are the man! Thus says the Lord God of Israel: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your keeping, and gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if that had been too little, I also would have given you much more!” Here, you see Sierra, is definitely one place where God not just prescribed it, He actually went beyond and gave more than one WIFE to a man.
Another Biblical example of God not just describing polygamy is in Isaiah 4:1, when He actually decided to use it as a solution to a godless society which causes a shortage of men. For He said, “1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying,
“We will eat our own food and wear our own apparel;
Only let us be called by your name, To take away our reproach.” Now, in considering the relevance of this passage, notice how the godless society Isaiah was talking about here was so similar to all of 80% of black children that are born out of wedlock in the US who need a father in the home. Meaning, how our society has strayed so far from God, look how this passage becomes so relevant to us today with all the single mothers that need a husband and father to their children… Now tell me how polygamy is somehow not relevant today…
Another example of the Lord blessing a man with multiple wives, we find is with Jacob, because the Bible teaches that “children are a blessing from the Lord” in Genesis 1:28; Deuteronomy 7:13; Psalms 127:3. In fact, when Jacob’s brother Esau saw all the 4 wives and children Jacob had accumulated, Jacob said this in response when the discussion went like this in Genesis 33:5, “5 And he lifted his eyes and saw the women and children, and said, “Who are these with you?” So he said, “The children whom God has graciously given your servant.” Now we know, Sierra, that polygamy is what God actually used to truly blessed Jacob by, because through these 4 wives He gave him, the 12 tribes of Israel was made, through which, Jesus, our Messiah, came through. You see Sierra, this was more than somehow Jacob’s greed. However, this was actually the plan and hand of God building His Chosen Nation. In fact, notice in Genesis 29:15-30 how Jacob never asked for his additional 3 wives, because he was originally only set on one wife and that was Rachel, showing that God had a plan of giving him more than what he actually asked for through the practice of polygamy.
Finally, another example is when God actually commanded that Hagar, after fleeing her sister wife/mistress, go back to her polygynous family and lifestyle in Genesis 16:9-10, saying, “9 The Angel of the Lord said to her, “Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hand.” 10 Then the Angel of the Lord said to her, “I will multiply your descendants exceedingly, so that they shall not be counted for multitude.”
You're right, but the bible says to follow the laws of the land. (Romans 13:1-2) Polygomy is illegal in the US. That's the actual reason men don't have more wives. Along with many other reasons. If you want more wives get them to change the law. We have that power as citizens. It would be interesting to see why those laws were put in place. We could assume some reasons.
Switching countries is also an option.
were supposed to follow the laws of God before the laws of the land hence the story of Daniel. not just some of Gods law but all of it above the laws of any country.
You completely misunderstood that verse lol. Please read the chapter again
If the law of the land, USA or not, is against God's law then there is no need to follow it.
If God says to worship Him and the American law says to not worship the God of the Bible, will you obey?
At the time that I wrote this, I thought God was fine with polygyny. So now I want to ask. Knowing this information I just gave you, would you have responded the same way?
The gospel of God is what it is bruh
Amen to that!
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You’re welcome
It's very obvious that a man can have more than one wife because God said he gave David multiple wives and would have given him more.
2 Samuel 12:8.
God is holy and perfect and so is his law. Moses had multiple wives and he is the one who wrote the 10 commandments and the law, which states a man can have multiple wives.
Deuteronomy 21:15-17
God almighty answered the prayer of a woman in a polygamous marriage, and she became pregnant. God will not answer a sinful prayer!
1 Samuel 1:19-20
God almighty even answers prayers of two women in a polygamous marriage to the same man, and they both give birth to sons.
Again, God will not answer a sinful prayer request!
Genesis 30:15-17
Genesis 30:22-24
Teach my Brother. This is fire 🔥! Shalom!
Romans 7 says a woman cannot have two husbands. If a man could not have two wives, then this passage would be unnecessary. Does that make sense? It would just say polygamy is unlawful in general. However, it points out that the woman is the one who can't have two husbands. Marriages in the Old Testament were unilateral covenants. Today, we practice bilateral covenants (this allows the woman to file for divorce and makes polygamy for the man unlawful). The man paid a bride price for the father's daughter. This was a bilateral transaction. The father agreed. After the price was exchanged, and the promise made, the covenant was complete. She was betrothed (promised) to her husband. In the Old Testament, the woman did not have a say about the marriage (arranged marriages). A lot of times, she was given to the man as a reward for battle. Jewish tradition allowed the woman (young girl) to accept the covenant when she drank from the cup of wine handed to her from the man (usually older and established). This wine is traditionally called the "cup of acceptance." The wine symbolized the "blood of the grape." This was the blood covenant. The woman had to "perform" to fulfill her father's promise. Therefore, after her performance the covenant became unilateral. She had fulfilled her required action, and the only thing that remained was the man's promise to rapture her to become one. The performance was usually seen in the consummation of the marriage. After she performed, the woman belonged to the man, and he was obligated to her by promise that he made to her father (perform the duties of a husband). The Hebrew word for covenant is briyth. This means, to cut or cutting. You see that in Genesis chapter 15 and 17. The animal was "cut" in two. Only God passed between the animals, not Abraham. This is called a unilateral covenant. It was considered an "unconditional" covenant because there was only one promise made. You see this with the rainbow covenant. However, because the rainbow covenant is a "gift," there was no need for acceptance. God gave the sign. The circumcision was not a "work," it was a symbol (sign) of the acceptance. We have this in contract law. A unilateral contract is considered a "promise for performance" agreement. One person "performs" for the promise, then the other person is required to fulfill their promise. After Abraham and his Seed (this was Jesus, but it was originally meant for Abrahan's decedents) performed, then God was required to fulfill his promise unconditionally. The performance that made Abraham righteous was not the circumcision, but his faith. Circumcision was the acceptance, but faith was the performance. Therefore, as long as he remained in the faith, he was guaranteed to receive the promise. We are saved after the covenant of Abraham and his Seed (Jesus) After the performance, it became unconditional. Same with the Old Testament marriage. After the woman performed, man's covenant to her was unconditional. However, Moses put a "condition" in the unconditional covenant that allowed man to put away his wife for uncleanness. That is why Jesus said, from the beginning it was not so (Matthew 19:8). In the first century, the Sanhedrin accepted the ketubah (written contract) as part of their marriage customs. This was only signed by the husband and two kosher witnesses. The woman did not sign or make any promises or oaths originally. She only "accepted" the marriage covenant. We see this in Ezekial 16 where God entered into a covenant with Israel. He swore an oath to her and entered into a covenant with her. Abraham never made a promise to "obey" God. Israel entered into a bilateral covenant with Moses when, after giving of the law, the promised to obey and do all the things written in the law. Therefore, there were two promises. One by God, and one by the people. Their covenant is conditonal on works. The man "acquired" the woman by the bride price. The Jews say the woman became a possession of the man. Since the covenant was unilateral, he was able to marry other women. He did not promise sexual exclusivity to the woman. The woman, being under the man, was required to be sexually exclusive to the man. This was her "performance." Our performance is the same. Not only do we have to have "faith" to be accepted into the body, but we must continue in the faith to be saved. Anyone who puts his hand to the plow and turns back, is not fit for the Kingdom of God. He who endures to the end will be saved. That is why idolatry was adultery. They started off in the faith but became unfaithful and their names were erased form the book of the living. They were "cut off" from the promises. The woman accepted the marriage by becoming one in flesh with the man. Therefore, the man was allowed to put her out of the house and cut her off from the covenant if the woman was sexually unfaithful. The woman was not able to divorce the man for sexual unfaithfulness, and polygamy was lawful. Committing adultery, according to the Jews, is sinning against the husband as the woman is the man's possession. Now with all that said, Jesus said that a man who lusts (covets) after a woman in his eyes commits adultery (taken from the 10 Commandments "thou shall not commit adultery"). Jesus goes on to talk to married men (Matthew 5:31-32). Greek uses context. The context of the 10 Commandments was adultery after a neighbor's wife. The Jew's understood adultery was polluting/defiling a marriage. Jesus was speaking to the man. The majority were married. By context and continuation, we can see Jesus was telling married men not to look at any woman in lust. This seemed to expand the understanding of adultery to both the married man and woman. This is further clear in talking about divorce and remarriage. Jesus said, if a man put away his wife, if not for fornication, and married another, he would be guilty of adultery. If polygamy was acceptable, then remarriage for the man would not be "adultery." Mark 10:11 says the man commits adultery "against" his former wife. We see that again in Luke 16:18. Greco-Roman culture during the New Testament did not allow polygamy. Their marriages were bilateral. Both the man and the woman were allowed to initiate divorce (Mark 10:11-12). Paul said the woman had "authority" over her husband's body (1 Cor. 7:4-5). Although the woman was still not allowed to initiate divorce and remarry (seen in 1 Cor. 7:11). Hebrew 13:1-4 says the marriage bed is supposed to be undefiled, but God will judge fornicators and adulterous. A man sleeping with a woman outside of being her husband, would be considered fornication or adultery. One or the other. Both would be a sin. However, by context, it seems to suggest (at least in the Roman setting of bilateral marriages) that a married man sleeping with a woman who is not married to be adultery (not fornication). Either is a sin, and not permitted for Christians. Polygamy is not a sin. If a Christian has two wives (as seen in Africa today) they should not divorce one and stay married to one. But, they should stay married and know they are honoring God, their marriage is honorable, and in good standing with God and man.
Thanks for commenting! You’ve said a lot. How do you define adultery and fornication from a Hebraic perspective?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Adulterate (adultery) means to dilute (pollute or defile). It was adding an impure substance to a pure substance. Heb. 13:4 the marriage bed is "undefiled." Adultery defiles the marriage bed and "breaks" the covenant (Jer. 31:32). This is repeated again in Heb. 8:9. Deut. 24:4 says the divorced woman cannot return to her prior husband after she married another. For she was "defiled." We saw that in Jer. 3:1. The woman was polluted. Numbers 5:13 says a woman "defiles" herself in adultery (married woman). Fornication (porneia) is any act of sexual immorality, inside or outside the marriage. We see that in Matt. 5:31-32. This is where we get the word "porn" or pornagraphy. It was equivillent to "uncleanness" in the Old Testament Deut. 24:1.
@@michaelsayen4360 thanks for responding!
When I asked for a Hebraic response for how you define adultery, I was looking more for how the Torah actually defines what it is.
Okay, so let’s go at it this way. Why do you seem to say that a married man having sex with a woman he’s not married to is necessarily“fornication or adultery?” I mean, even if she is single? What Scriptural support can you produce that suggests it would be either fornication or divorce?
Also, would you please infer what Moses meant what divorce is when he wrote Lev. 20:10 please?
Also, what does the Torah define as what fornication specifically is, if you haven’t already, please?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen It seems you did not read the entire message I wrote. Maybe it is best for you to read that first. Hebrew and Greek are two different languages. The TNC (Torah and the Law and Prophets) were translanted from Hebrew to Greek for the King of Egypt's library by 70 of the Jewish scribes (two from each of the 12 tribes, 72 in reality). The New Testament quotes the Septuagent many times when quoting from the Torah. Matthew might have originally be written in Hebrew, and later translated into Greek by the Gentile believers. We can see many Hebrew idoms in the Gospels. The Old Testament forcus on Adultery. The New Testament seems to focus on adultery and sexual immorality. Like the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus expands our understanding of the Law of Moses and judgement. Fornication (sexual immorality) was taken from the classical Greek. Not the Greek of the common people. The writings of that day to do not cover porniea as much in their day to day writings. It was not very common. So, we must take consideration of the Old and the New Testament. Adultery means different things in the Hebrew and Greek. Adultery in Greek is not an exact translation of the Hebrew. As I said before, marriage covenants were "unilateral" in the Old Testament. They were bilateral in the New Testament. The woman was "aquired" by the bride price. The Jews consider the woman man's possession. Because of this, adultery was having sexual relationships with a "married woman." It does not say anything about a married man sleeping with an unmarried woman, or marrying her (polygamy). However, in the New Testament, it does define adultey and fornication differently (which I wrote about above). It would be good for you to read those and respond from those statments. In a bilateral covenant, adultery is committed by sleeping or having sexual relationships with a married man or a married woman. Much like we practice in western culture. This seems to be confirmed when Jesus said, a man lusting after a woman commits adultery in his heart/mind. Jesus was referring to married men as context seems to continue on about divorce and remarriage in verses 31-32. The marriage bed is undefiled, but God will judge fornicators and adulterers. What this is saying, is you are in a marriage covenant (marriage bed), or anyone else you have sex with is either adultery or fornication (defiling the marriage bed). There is no in between (unmarried sex that is not sin). At least that is how I read it. I don't want to get into an arguement with you about this, but thought I would comment. You don't want to justify unmarried sex. That is sin, and worthy of judgement (Heb 13:4; and 1 Cor. 6).
5 were wise and 5 were foolish is a parable i can say 5 were foolish and 1 man and that's you Matthews 25 -10 and they that were ready went in with him( to the marriage) it didn't say he marry them..
Thank you for your comment! Now, if the Bridegroom was not to marry them, please tell me what is the role of a Bridegroom then? Also, why would a Bridegroom be coming to take ten virgins to a wedding in the first place? Vs. 25:10 says, “10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.” Please tell me what happens to the Bridegroom at any wedding...
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen a parable is not literal then shall the Kingdom of Heaven be likened to 10 virgins the word likened means giving you a Earthly example so you can understand spirit ephesians 5-25 Christ is the head of the church that makes him the bridegroom the church is like a bride which Christ gave himself for that's one example
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen also rev 19-9 marriage supper of the lamb and no its not about or saying literal marriage
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen question where did it say Jesus got married
@@Ricky-wu5mm I totally agree about what a parable is. Although I mean I do not read Matthew 25:1-13 as being literal, but yes as a parable/a story of spiritual illustration, I do recognize the fact that Jesus here is claiming the rights of His spiritual husbandry (a manager) over His Church which is His Bride. This is what makes His illustration so fitting and relative to His audience, because as Hebrew men, in speaking to His disciples, they understood not only the culture of polygyny, they understood that even the Lord God Almighty calls Himself the Husband of Israel, Judah, Jerusalem and Samaria, at the same time. That’s why Jesus was alluding to Himself as the Husband of 10 virgins, typified by God in the Old Testament (Jer. 3:1, 8 & 14; Ezekiel 16). In other words, in this parable, Jesus is fulfilling Old Testament Scripture that testifies to Him being not the literal as you’ve pointed out but The Spiritual Husband over His people, the Church. A concept that reveals further His Deity and is not foreign to the Word of God, so you are correct in referencing Eph 5:25, but if you go to vs. 31-32, Paul reveals that as a man cleaves to and becomes the husband of his wife, marriage reveals the very mystery of the union of Christ and His Church. For as the OT reveals that God permits a man to take on and have multiple wives (Exod. 21:10), Jesus said that all of the OT testifies about Him, including being a husband to His plural bride (Luke 24:44; Matt. 25:1-13; 22:1-3; Rev. 19:7; John 3:27-30). Jesus therefore fulfills what the law says about marriage monogamously as well as polygynously. Monogamous in the sense that we each have a personal responsibility and relationship in union with Him. Polygynous in that as a Church, we have a collective relationship and responsibility within our union with Him. For He said, “17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled” (Matthew 5:17-18). Thus, Matthew 25:1-13 is the fulfillment of Christ coming back for those betrothed, but they must each be prepared for His coming individually!
I love this video. Maybe you should check out islam on this subject. Without Islam's perfection on this matter, the practice will be too fluid.
saliu momodu thank you so kindly! Sounds like a great idea! Although I know a limited amount about Islam altogether, it definitely would be good to delve in further.
Biblical Polygyny is Perfect. Moses(the law giver), Abraham( the One by whom all the nation's would be blessed), Jacob( father of all the nation's), Solomon( wisest man on Earth) David( bloodline from which the Saviour would be born) etc. They all knew what they were doing.
It doesn't require Islam. It requires a real understanding of Biblical Polygyny and Our Lord Jesus Christ Kingdom. 🌳🌹👑
@@mississippideltamedicine5325 while Solomon was considered and it was the wisest man on Earth, he let his wives take him into idol worship.
@@dcasey-x7w and that had nothing to do with polygny nor monogamy. That was simply Solomons error letting women Under his guidance leave him astray. That happens in monogamy and polygny circumstances all the time.
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I don't have to cheat that's what I think about it .
+Groove N Peace thanks for your comment! However, but at one point, there wasn’t even a concept of cheating as it relates to men. For the option to take on an additional wife was totally up to the man’s prerogative.
So I'll assume you have more than 1 wife?
I never answer that question due to personal family and legal precautions. I’m not at liberty to publicly disclose my personal family makeup. Nevertheless, my perspective on Bible Doctrine is what I will discuss.
Jeremiah is not talking about god marry Israel literally it's saying for backsliding isreal to return to his Commandments and laws its not talking about a sex union. 😂
Once again, I am not and neither is God talking about literal physical sexual marriage. You and I agree. You keep misunderstanding what I mean by repeating or using passages that refer to God claiming His people to be married to Him.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen you are thinking from a polygamous mindset and not the word of God
Even the pedophile can use the scripture for his own lust
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen yes married to him in a spiritual Union
@@Ricky-wu5mm but a pedophile would be inaccurate because Scripture doesn’t in no way condone adults sexing children. However, God told King David in 2 Sam. 12:7-8, that He (God) gave him (David) the multiple wives he had when he committed adultery, and that if David wanted more wives, God would have given him more. Meaning God, of His own words is not against David having more wives, even though he already had multiple wives. That’s why in Exod 21:10, God permits a man to take on another wife if he chooses to.
Make a video on how not to judge you becouse Jesus bought you by grace
+Francisco Lugo thanks for your suggestion Brother! Will put it on the list.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen your welcome brother
In the day men will have seven wives Isiah 4:1 💐🌑👍 rejoice rest in the good news 👍 okay bye
Amen, thanks for the sure Word!
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Deuteronomy 17:16 for the Lord has told you, “You are not to go back that way again.” 17 He must not take many wives, In Deuteronomy 17:17 God was clear the polygamy was forbidden, King David did not obey, King Solomon did not obey, Moses did not obey, they all sinned.
That verse has the Lord’s message to David spoken from Nathan the prophet, and it says how the Lord gave David the wives of Saul. But God’s comments to David through Nathan in 2 Samuel 12 meant that God was speaking to David more about the throne and its authority than about wives. In the Near East at the time of David, it was common practice to either appropriate the wives of a previous king into the royal harem or, if they were much older (and this would have probably been the case with Saul’s wives in regards to David), put them to death along with any of their children, so that no other claim on the throne could be made.
Of course David had promised not to harm any of the house of Saul (1 Samuel 24:21-22, 2 Samuel 9:1), and therefore God’s giving of Saul’s wives to David meant that David actually took care of and protected those who normally would have been disposed of. There is never any mention of David having sexual relations with any of these wives of Saul.
Repent for twisting scripture to promote Sexual immortality, 1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God?Do not be deceived:Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
The Lord also said in that passage to “not multiply horses for himself,” to “nor shall he greatly multiply silver and gold for himself.”
My question is why?
Was the the Lord here forbidding kings from having a lot of horses and silver as well, or is there something else being said?
And why say, “You are not to go back that way again”?
Does “taking many” just mean more than one, or does it mean something else here?
Also, the very context of why the Lord said what He said to David in 2 Samuel 12, through Nathan, was about making the point that David needed not take another man’s wife and then have him murdered to cover it up. Hint, the whole point about, the rich man taking from the poor man’s one little ewe lamb in Nathan’s analogy. So it was not about the throne he had given him as much as it was about being evil, greedy and adulterous. In other words, God was saying that David already had many wives, there was no need to take from he that only had one, is the point. So the mention of giving him the throne was to make the point that everything that came with it was given to David. Including his master’s wives. You say that there was no mention of David having sex with any of Saul’s wives, but the very point is that they were given into David’s bosom. Bosom, according to Brown’s Digger means they became a part of his body, one flesh. So the text doesn’t have to say sex, it spells it out.
Another thing about David is that Scripture says that “since the incident of Uriah, David never sinned,” so that means that his continuing of polygamy thereafter is not deemed sinful, according to 1 Kings 15:5. In fact, it reads,
“5 because David did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, and had not turned aside from anything that He commanded him all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.” (2 Sam. 22:31-25; 2 Kings 22:2)
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+Hikonmakum Philemon all Praises due to the King of Kings!
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U will hear from me again you are not save and it's funny that you go to the Old Testament to get your proof
When interpreting the Bible goes wrong....
Would love to be enlightened on what would be considered Biblically correct!
I knew this all along but..I want u to clarify..what if I have multiple wives but I wasnt the one who took their virginity...even though they weren't next men wives..is it a sin to marry multiple women who aren't virgin..but not married??? Because I heard it is
Right these men want polygamy so bad and it’s usually only for sex and lustful reasons. This is not biblical and he will have to answer to Christ
Shalom Achi. Great video. What say ye of Sha'uls recommendation for those who want to take on a leadership role to be husbands of ONE wife?
1Ti_3:2 A bishop then must be BLAMELESS, the husband of ONE wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Ti_3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of ONE wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
1Ti_5:9 Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man,
Tit_1:6 If any be BLAMELESS, the husband of ONE wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
Shalom Ach, Great question! Thank you! The answer is found within the principle where CONTEXT is KING. The immediate context consists of the word, ‘one,’ he uses is translated from the word, ‘mias’ - which actually means ‘of one’ or ‘first.’ However, the more proper translation should be the word, ‘first.’ Not ‘one.’ Why? Simply because based on the historical context, the Greeks did not practice polygyny within public marriage, although they did so engage in a more secretive form of concubinage and the swapping of one wife for another. Kind of like it’s done today here in the west, btw. Nevertheless, to better understand this passage, it is in grasping who Sha’ul was even writing to. He was writing to his half Greek, half Hebrew disciple, Timothy, whom he left in charge to structure a new Greek congregation at Ephesus. Therefore, it would have been irrelevant for Sha’ul to instruct this new congregation to stop behavior they weren’t even practicing in the first place. Now why does this make even more sense? When substituted, it reads like this: “A Bishop then must be blameless, the husband of the [“first”] wife….” You see? Now when we also consider the remote context, this interpretation fits perfectly with Yah when He instructed Moshe to write concerning a man deciding to take on an additional wife, He said, “10 If he take him another wife; her (the first or current wife) food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.” (Exodus 21:10-11) In other words, Ach, we have here a principle that has not changed from Moshe all the way up to Sha’ul. A man or Bishop can take on additional wives, providing he not neglect the current. In other words, Yah does not want His men servants to be in the ‘wife swapping’ game as the Greeks practiced. Thus, this passage does not teach that a Bishop must only have one wife. The word ‘one’ was simply a later translation purposefully made to fit western ideology. However, when we dig deeper, we find that it only proves that Sha’ul was not against polygyny. Hopefully, this helps Ach!
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Don't you find it odd that he would have to tell him to be the husband of his first wife? That goes without saying and he couldn't be a husband to a second wife without being the husband of the first wife. It is peculiar he uses mias rather than idios or heis, but mias can be interpreted to mean "one". Ex. 21 in context is about the master's servant who has children who become under the authority of the master. The instructions are for whether the master gives the servant's daughter to his son or keeps her for himself, or lets her go free. I do see that he has that right to take her as a wife should he desire to do so which lines up with what Sha'ul said. But most of us don't have servants having children under our care so this instruction isn't really applicable.
1Co 7:36 And if anyone thinks he is behaving improperly toward his maiden, if she is past the flower of her youth, and so it should be, let him do what he desires, he does not sin - let them marry.
I have been thinking that if we are supposed to be set apart from how the world operates, this would be one category that is definitely considered taboo, to get folks from the West to see the truth of this is an uphill battle no doubt. May Yah's Truth prevail.
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
If only women can see eye to eye and love one another these days
I second that Brother. The reason they can’t is because modern western women are under a strong delusion.