Just so you know, I lost my position as a minister/preacher of the Gospel because I publicly taught some of the very things you've detailed in this series. You are right when you say that the topic of polygeny terrifies many people in the today's culture. I believe that society today would be better-served if righteous polygyny was practiced today. It has profound ramifications to marital relations.
Dave in Texas, wow! So we share similar experiences, I see! I too was removed from an associate Pastor’s position in March of 2019 for choosing to exercise polygyny. I thank God for your boldness in speaking the truth, my Brother! Yes, the fact that many are terrified only proves that prescriptive monogamy does not originate from the “Spirit of power, love and of a sound mind,” which is “not of fear.”
It's the devil's way of taking MULTITUDES to hell and it's happening. The devil has hidden in marriages by manipulating Polygamy to monogamy using so many human justifications which most of them judge God sooo much as if it was just some senseless being. It's a pity.
Noah's son, Moses, Abraham, David, Solomon were all Polygynists. As a kid I never understood how these guys could be wrong. Many of them had personal relationships with God. God obviously knew what they were doing. God never rebuked them for it. God blessed them. I never felt it could be wrong, so I got really confused growing up and hearing how now a' days it's so bad. God doesn't change. He was pro Polygyny then. He's pro Polygyny now.
Not only that my dear. Our Lord Jesus Christ isn't He referred to as the son of David? Isn't David referred to as a man after God's heart? (1 Samuel 14:13) isn't David referred to as a righteous man till his death? (1 Samuel 24:17; 1 Kings 15:5) How about God's chosen people the Israelites weren't they from Jacob's all four wives? God used Joseph to make Himself known, wasn't he the son of Racheal the second wife of Jacob? How about Samuel whom God used so much talking to him one on one wasn't he the son of Hanna second wife of Elkana? Am telling you these one man one woman man made designed MARRIAGES are totally against God. They are reason why the world is actually Soo evil
@@sallykumwenda5308 WOW! That is awesome Sally. Merry Christmas!!! I'm going to copy your quote. That's the most indepth argument I've ever seen on this topic.
@@julesfalcone Thanks so much dear. Also remember that God actually also gave laws to be applied in polygamous marriages read Deuteronomy 21:15-23 about the right of the first born. Here is what God said: 15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: 16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: Apart from this if you read Leviticus 18 God has listed all sexual immoral practices. Most of them are about sexual practices concerning Polygamous marriages where a son for example need not to have sex with his biological mother or any of his father's other wives. And do you know that these dubious pastors have also twisted the meaning of what sexual immorality is? No one reads the Bible on this but it's there in Leviticus 18. However the subject is discussed in line with a married man having sex outside marriage which isn't even there on these sexual immorality practices as cited by God. Ohhhh the Devil is managing to take many to hell just on this one manipulation of marriages from Polygamy to monogamy. I read the Bible myself and discovered the truth myself
@@sallykumwenda5308 You're a true scholar Ms. Kumwenda. I know the modern church shames people about sexuality to control them but are you saying that God doesn't speak about a married man having sex outside marriage? Or, Adultery is sleeping with another man's wife. But does it end there? I obviously modern preachers preach all extra-marital sex is adultery. I'm figuring this out as I'm writing. Is it your comprehension that God doesn't speak about sex outside marriage? (I appreciate your responses very much.)
Greetings, I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours! - Mike Allen
Thank you, brother! I love the biblical references. My biggest challenge was being afraid to believe in polygany just because I want it to be true, and not bc its permissable to God. After going back and reading the passages, within their proper context, it seems to be totally permissable under God's law
You’re welcome, Brother! Yes I too have had to answer that exact same questions as I embraced and decided to accept what Scripture says on this. I wrestled with whether it was of my own lust or it just simply is God’s will for humanity. That’s why I find comfort in what Solomon said concerning the desires of a man, when he said, “I also gathered for myself silver and gold and the treasure of kings and provinces. I got singers, both men and women, and many concubines, the delight of the sons of man.” (Ecc. 2:8, ESV) He says, once again, “the delight for men are to have many concubines.” In words, it’s okay to desire/lust for them as long as that desire isn’t covetousness, which is to desire women that belong to someone else. To that Moses said, “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” (Exod. 20:17, NKJV)
The LAWS that a man breaks are • 1. Leviticus 18:18. You shall not marry a woman in addition to her sister as a rival while she is alive, to uncover her nakedness. • The word SISTER there means “one to another” NOT “blood sisters” … so he is blatantly saying DO NOT DO THIS! • It further insinuates that “to do so places your wife in a RIVALRY with another woman in her house.” • Does that PRACTICE meet the qualities of LOVE in 1 Cor 13:4-8? Or Ephesians 5:22-33 • 1. Deuteronomy 17:17 He shall not acquire multiple wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away [from God]; • Solomon DID THIS and “his heart turned away to worship other gods that his WIVES also worshipped …” 1 Kings 11:4-9 • Christ AFFIRMS one wife for each man with the model of BIBLICAL MARRIAGE in Ephesians 5:22-33. He speaks of the mystery of Christ and His bride which is the church. He says marriage is a perfect model for that … so if poly was encouraged … WHY DOESN’T CHRIST HAVE MULTIPLE BRIDES? … 🤓
Nope not this woman I need a sister wife! I think it's a wayy better way. There is no real power in solitude. The true blessings are in children. More wives = more children for all married to the man. I'd love to raise a bunch of baby's with other wemon who also love and are faithful to my man. I don't know why there is so much stigma around it. If I had two or three other wemon home with me as a team. Oh boy I don't even have the words for what a blessing that would be.
This is because you are a rare jewel in an evil day we live in! Most women cannot see this math simply because of the stigma causes, once again, to incite fear in them. Feminism has propelled this stigma, along with western theology, in order to shackle the headship and authority of a man, given by God (1 Corinthians 11:1-3 & 1 Peter 3:1-6). In other words, Satan uses the very fear of women to impede the man from being as “fruitful and multiplying,” as God commands. Many Blessings to you!
Shalom Brethren! “The harvest is plenty but laborers are few.” Are you with a particular camp or congregation? I’m actually in Brooklyn. Many Blessings!
The LAWS that a man breaks are • 1. Leviticus 18:18. You shall not marry a woman in addition to her sister as a rival while she is alive, to uncover her nakedness. • The word SISTER there means “one to another” NOT “blood sisters” … so he is blatantly saying DO NOT DO THIS! • It further insinuates that “to do so places your wife in a RIVALRY with another woman in her house.” • Does that PRACTICE meet the qualities of LOVE in 1 Cor 13:4-8? Or Ephesians 5:22-33 • 1. Deuteronomy 17:17 He shall not acquire multiple wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away [from God]; • Solomon DID THIS and “his heart turned away to worship other gods that his WIVES also worshipped …” 1 Kings 11:4-9 • Christ AFFIRMS one wife for each man with the model of BIBLICAL MARRIAGE in Ephesians 5:22-33. He speaks of the mystery of Christ and His bride which is the church. He says marriage is a perfect model for that … so if poly was encouraged … WHY DOESN’T CHRIST HAVE MULTIPLE BRIDES? … 🤓
Good work again my bro! On the issue of of Jesus talking to the pharesees this has always been taken out of context since he was addressing issues to do with divorce and not polygyny. But on a note for those who may claim that since Adam and eve had a monogamy so should be ideal template for humanity ought to see that there was no sin or law during this time in the garden of eden until that couple disobeyed God. After, any covenant between God and adam was broken by the time they were sent away from eden( if there was any binding agreement to only have one wife got annulled when the first sin was committed) Law was only introduced after this event (Moses laws that describes what is or is not sin) which none was against polygyny.
hellespont1 and thank you once again as well! You too have dropped a bomb when you say that whatever covenantal that may have intended only monogamy for Adam and Eve was annulled in the fall! Thanks! I love that!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Also, it really bothers me when Christians use that example bc - they are applying Pharisaical logic. They use Jesus words to do to us, what The Pharisees were trying to do to Jesus.
Moses also committed murder, so according to your logic it is OK for men to go and commit murder as well. The story of Moses is not to lift up Moses but to show how God can even use men such as Moses to do his will.
Thanks for your comment! Actually, my logic is not to lift up Moses but to only show that Moses never taught against polygyny but only sanctioned, regulated and practiced it. However, unlike wilts murder, polygyny was never condemned by him. For Moses never gave any validity to the practice murder as he did polygyny.
Greetings, I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours! - Mike Allen
@diggingintheword The LAWS that a man breaks are • 1. Leviticus 18:18. You shall not marry a woman in addition to her sister as a rival while she is alive, to uncover her nakedness. • The word SISTER there means “one to another” NOT “blood sisters” … so he is blatantly saying DO NOT DO THIS! • It further insinuates that “to do so places your wife in a RIVALRY with another woman in her house.” • Does that PRACTICE meet the qualities of LOVE in 1 Cor 13:4-8? Or Ephesians 5:22-33 • 1. Deuteronomy 17:17 He shall not acquire multiple wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away [from God]; • Solomon DID THIS and “his heart turned away to worship other gods that his WIVES also worshipped …” 1 Kings 11:4-9 • Christ AFFIRMS one wife for each man with the model of BIBLICAL MARRIAGE in Ephesians 5:22-33. He speaks of the mystery of Christ and His bride which is the church. He says marriage is a perfect model for that … so if poly was encouraged … WHY DOESN’T CHRIST HAVE MULTIPLE BRIDES? … 🤓
Brother, I have been searching about Moses and cound't find anywhere that he had more than one wife. There are people that says Cushe and Midian are the same and some people don't know for sure. If cushe and midian are the same, he had just one wife according to the bible. If the places arent the same. He had 2, but nothing implies it was at the same time from my perpective. Could you say more about that? My best regards from Brazil.
Blessings My Brother! Great question! Yes, there have been those who claim that the Cushites and Midianites were the same. However, a good question to ask is, “If the woman Moses took on in Numbers 12 was actually Zipporah the Midianite of Exodus 2, then why does the language in Numbers 12 appear to imply that he had recently taken her on?” For Zipporah was of a 40 year, plus, marriage to Moses. Yet, he was a man who heard the voice of God in the face of the Israelites even since his return to Egypt in Exodus 4. Since that time, Aaron and Miriam had already seen Moses lead under the Most High’s influence all the way up to Numbers 12:1. Only then do we read that they took issue with the wife he married, because she was an Ethiopian, and if they already knew that Moses was married at that point, then why the big stink years later about the very, so called, wife he had for 40 years plus? Mind you, Jethro, Moses’ father in law, brought Zipporah and their two sons to Moses shortly after the Exodus, out of Egypt, so Miriam and Aaron had at least known about Zipporah since then, so why then the sudden disappointment much later in the Book of Numbers? Two books later. As for the word Cush or Cushites, it can also be translated as Ethiopia, because the Ethiopians were black-skinned people. A Number of Biblical references allude to this fact (Is 18:2; Jr 13:23). Besides, not only the burden of proof is on those who make this claim, it is also a pretty recent argument. An interesting article examining what different scholars have said concerning this debate concludes: A close examination of this passage (Nm 12:1-16) and other related passages which mention the Cushit, Miriam and Midian show that the Cushite woman cannot be Zipporah, but an African woman, for the following reasons: · There is no evidence of association of the Cushite woman with Zipporah or a Midianite in the passage or other passages related to Moses' wife, therefore such should not be assumed. · Midian and Zipporah were never referred to as Kush or Cushite in all the biblical records. Midian and Kush or Midianite and Cushite were never used interchangeably in either the biblical, the Egyptian, or the Assyrian records. Jethro was never called a Cushite. Josephus differentiated between Midian and Kush (Book II:10-1). · It does not make sense for Miriam to speak against Moses because of a wife (Zipporah) whom Moses had married for about 40 years. · The Hebrew clause עַל-אֹדוֹת הָאִשָּׁה הַכֻּשִׁית אֲשֶׁר לָקָח: כִּי-אִשָּׁה כֻשִׁית, לָקָח. ('because of the Cushite woman which he married' (literally took), 'for he had married a Cushite woman') strongly implies a recent marriage. Therefore, the Jewish tradition of equating the Cushite woman with Zipporah has no basis. It was probably an apologetic device to keep Moses a monogamist (Gray 1910:121-122; Noth 1975:77). There are four reasons to believe that the Cushite wife of Moses is a black African woman. (www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S2305-08532018000100028&lng=en&nrm=iso&tlng=en) Now whether if these women mentioned are the same person, or not, should it even matter since Moses himself was not against polygyny? It would be one thing if he only had one wife and wrote against the practice. However, we know that he certainly took no issue with it, but only regulated its continuance (Exodus 21:7; Deuteronomy 21:15-17).
Your comment on the "God created one man and one woman, not multiple women" objection was very intelligent. I've never thought of it that way. I'll be sure to use your points. I also wanted to know your thoughts on a polygynous man having group sex with his women, aka three to moresomes. From a personal and Christian point of view, I don't see any problem with it. Many have said God allowed polygyny, obviously implying that He doesn't today, that is was never His will, in the end meaning God changes which we know He does not. They say God only allows the polygynist to sleep with one woman at a time. I genuinely I'm not sure where they have gotten this understanding from because as far as I know, the Bible does not say a polygynist is only permitted to have coitus with one woman at a time. What are your thoughts on this? Do you agree? What is your personal belief and your belief based on what the Word says? I appreciate the response.
Another good query Brother! The Bible does not explicitly condemn moresomes with one’s wives. However, I do believe it does implicitly condemn it though. Here’s why: Firstly, there are no Scriptures that teaches that a man is permitted to do so, so from an explicit perspective, the Bible is silent, and where the Bible is silent, we should remain silent. Secondly, in principle, there are numerous examples of men that had multiple wives, and each time they went into one, there are no indications that either of their other wives were either present, much less participated. For instance, when Abraham went into Hagar, it was implied that Sarah did not go into the bedroom tent as well in Genesis 16. Another example was with Jacob’s wives. In Genesis 30:9-16, Leah bartered with Rachel to get a night with Jacob showing that Leah was not present the times Rachel was with him herself. And as taboo as it was, another example is with Lot’s daughters who got him drunk, two nights in a row, where they took turns, but not at the same time, and had sex with him. Showing that they understood that to have a moresome with him was not what they were culturally comfortable with. Thirdly, each wife of a man’s marriage in polygyny is unique unto itself. When Hagar was sent away, Sarah was still Abraham’s wife. Also, Paul said that a wife is freed upon her husband’s death from the marriage covenant in Romans 7:1-3, proving that the covenants is between a wife and her husband and that it is a unique bond between them respectively. And fourthly, to watch two people have sex, much less engage with them, would be porneia and an orgy in nature, since the covenants between wives are distinct. Therefore, I find moresomes to be problematic for believers!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen You made good points. I have acknowledged the fact that Lot's daughters had sex with him separately but even though they did the same as polygynous couples in the Bible, I do not think that would make group sex sinful. The Bible may not have a statement on every subject, but I personally believe Christians can come to conclusions based on logic, for example, we do not know whether or not polygyny would have come into being if Adam and Eve had not sinned. This case is a bit of a different story because we know polygyny is not sinful and in fact Godly, but when it comes to polygyny and the fall of man, I conclude that the potential of polygyny coming into being still could've and probably would've taken place because nothing would've stopped Lamech from taking two wives. I will further study the meaning of porneia because I know the definition can vary depending on the context. I do believe that a marriage union is between a man and a woman respectively, but I don't think I could conclude that meant group sex would be outrighted as sinful, though I do pray for guidance from the Holy Spirit on this matter.
@@rasthehead most certainly Brother, you are on the right track when you include the HS. I would encourage you though, while you pursue more godly insight on this matter to ask yourself the questions: •Hypothetically, What if one of your wives were converted from a former life of lesbianism and pornography and is now a God fearing believer. Would having her naked with your other wives naked as well not tempt her to her former lusts? Does not the word teach that we are not to be a stumbling block to our brethren that struggle with past sinful lifestyles (Romans 14, 1 Corinthians 8 & 10)? Would you not be then using what you say you now have freedom in as a hindrance to her? And, how common is there that those converted in Christ now do struggle with former sensual sexual passions? Would you not be hard pressed to not find a few that has come from a former sinful sexual past in these days and times? In other words, it is very hard to not consider the visual ungodly temptations when it comes to allowing a 3rd party into the bedroom. This is why we wear clothes today. This is also why there numerous passages that forbid agains exposing one’s nakedness, even to close family members. For even the nakedness between Adam and Eve was covered up by God. Remember how Noah’s younger son exposed his father’s nakedness, while the elder sons respected it. And yes, this is after the fall we are prescribed to cover our nakedness. However, even the apostles taught about the propriety of attire. Let me know your thoughts.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen It could. Hypothetically speaking, if the woman did have the former life which _you described as sinful_ then sure, she definitely might be tempted to engage in other kinds of "sex". I will further my studies on homosexuality and what the Bible says. I quoted 'sex' because sex between females is not possible. I say this because it is written that a man should not lie with a man in the manner that he lies with a woman, obviously implying he cannot penetrate the man. I believe this verse was written the way it was because a woman and a woman, logically speaking, cannot have _sex_ so to say. It says for men not to have sexual relations with men. And then mentions for both women and also men not have sexual relations with animals, but did you notice what is missing? Where does it say "Woman can not have sexual relations with another woman"? It appears to be missing. Now, if polygyny is not a sin, do you see any reason why it would relevant to leave this out? Consider the situation where a man is with his two wives in bed and they are both having sex with him. Could not a command such as "woman can not lie with woman" or "A woman may not lie with a woman the way she lie with a man" be construed as an argument against females having sex in or outside of a polygynous marriage? So, I believe God left out such a command for this very reason. Now, I believe lesbianism goes against God's design for marriage in terms of the same sex not being able to become legitimately married. I don't think God would look at two women or men who are romantically involved with each other and say "Those two a married.", firstly because all types of romantic relationships between men is forbidden expect non-sexual, the design of marriage is a man with a woman so I do not permit women to commit to each other, but the point is, God is not against polygyny, so such a command of women with women is left out as a result. What do you think? This is what I firmly believe.
How to you interpret Jesus in Mathew 5 v 27 and 28? 27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[a] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. What is Jesus teaching here?
+christianmarsh Rosey Good question! Jesus is teaching here that adultery is a sin that begins with lust that goes back to 10th commandment, that says, “17“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” (Exod. 20:17) For covetousness is spiritual adultery, so the woman He refers to in Matthew 5, belongs to another man (Lev. 20:10). Not a single unmarried woman that is not under her husband or father’s care.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen So how comes for hundreds of years we have been taught that the lusting refers to any woman, whether single or married? Jesus never specifically said married women. It sounds like he was changing the Old Testament teaching regarding what adultery was.
@@christianmarshrosey1977 sounds like another great question on your part! If you take a look at my series on my channel called “A Deception Over Time,” (czcams.com/video/pGZwLfO3--Q/video.html) you’d see how it appears Jesus changed what the law said. Watch parts 1-5, where I show how western Christianity has altered translation and forced in traditions and standards that are not Scriptural. Now the short answer to your question is all you have to do is go a few verses up in Matthew 5:17-20, and you will see that Jesus said Himself that, “He didn’t come to change anything in the Law.” In fact, Jesus said that we must teach what the Law commands. Nothing more, nothing less, so when we go back to the Law, adultery is always in reference to whether a woman is married. Lust, which is covetousness is always also in reference to whatever belongs to someone else, which is why I cited the 10th commandment. Never for a single woman who is eligible and not covered.
lance asher although I don’t remember reading specifically this one, I am familiar with what it lays out. The crazy thing about this is how this information is so easily accessible and most Bible believers in the west are not familiar with the reality that imposed monogamy did not originate in the church.
I'm a polytheist, I'm not that religious and for me personally, as someone who tends to be a nonconformist (I tend to see flaws in the 10 Commandments but I mean nothing bad by this) is definitely up for polygyny. I'm tired of the common mindset about how it should only be monogamy and typical scenes in movies, music videos, etc, of a girl catching her boyfriend with another girl and wants a breakup or feels betrayed. People need more awareness of what polygamy/polygyny is and it's benefits. The man has to learn to be an alpha male and the girls need to be in acceptance and tolerable of it as well as learning and having a sense of sisterhood or sorority among one another.
Hey Shinku, thank you for your comment and sharing your perspectives! Yes there is too much that is propagandized against polygyny in today’s society, depending where you live. Btw, where are you commenting from, and I would love to hear the flaws you see in the 10 Commandments? However, certainly, I’m with you on the need for educating people on this wonderful lifestyle. Also, I whole heartedly agree that men and women must learn their function in being together. Thanks again 💪🏽
Trust me MULTITUDES of people are going to hell for normalizing man made one man one woman marriage. It's the one that's against God. Polygamy is the marriage that God put in place
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen And if we can see through these Polygamous marriages it has brought alone many sins. 1. Nowadays marriages have kind of become a competition especially amongst women, I get married I win, I don't get married I lose. We know what happens where there is a competition, people need to find ways and means to win that competition using all the strategies for example some even go to the extent of consulting witch craft and other satanic powers to have a man marry them. We see online people who know voodoo advertising themselves that they are capable to make a man marry them. This already is a demonic way of killing other people's mind to marry you. Another competition is won by women through things such as makeups, wearing revealing clothes to seduce men. There is so much on this just to mention a few. Imagine if we find marriages in such a manner how is that marriage legit and sacred to God. Can we even say that such a marriage is connected to God? But we see people being married using demonic ways still talks about God having connected them. That's blasphemy another sin. Such things were never there during God's time when God was in charge of marriages. Wedding vows weren't even used those days because marriages were arranged by God, people put in marriages already knew their responsibility in their marriage with regards to God and their husbands and aware about such a union to be for a life time unless otherwise as commanded by God about marriage laws2. If a woman is not married the result is being ridiculed like she is the worst human being and even name calling such women like prostitutes, etc. Such behaviors aren't connected to God because that's not the love that God has called the entire world to do. 4. As men were meant to marry multiple wives, the world is trying to control something no human being could, that's why even if a woman can regard herself as very attractive, a man will still go outside to look for another woman. Unfortunately since of the worldly norms pertaining marriages men do so in secret and this results into sins like 5. lies which the world has coined a name alongside such a practice as "cheating" read the Bible this word is no where written as to mean a man seeking love elsewhere. Unfortunately it's a word used even by pastors to ridicule men. This kind of lie was never there in the Bible because every woman had a chance of being married and those who married first already knew about such possibilities. God hate men to just sneak out there and have sex with other women with no intentions of marrying them just because they fear their wives. That's where the problem of sins like the 6. fornication comes into play. These monogamous marriages have brought sins hated by God including 7, selfishness, women say apart from me you are not supposed to marry any one else. But what if there is a widow out there or even an orphan out there mature enough to be married and God wants her to be taken care by Him under the care of your husband? Because God says He is God of widows and orphans and again and again He speaks of people to defend such people. We all know that God helps people through other people. But with what has happened nowadays manipulating marriages the world is kind of putting limits for God to fulfill some of His promises like in this case saying orphans and widows can't be taken care sharing a man with me. Selfishness. And the Bible already says that where there is selfish ambitions there is all other evil practices. 10. Jealous, women are now so jealous of each other, they don't trust each other when it comes to men. If one woman has man she will always be suspicious and 11 fear of other women at some point sleeping with their husband. Men who "cheat" also have fear of being discovered by their wives and be divorced. Jealous makes women be suspicious of their men to the extent of hiring private investigators to find out if they are "cheating" These kinds of insecurities were not there when God played a huge role in marriage. 12. Divorce is another serious sin in these marriages. Because we marry people that don't belong to us in the first place, that's why divorce takes place. Women nowadays have been given authority to divorce a man which is not there in the Bible. When a man is found having another woman, divorce is done in the name of "sexual immorality" when it's not. Sins like 13 hate is also a product of monogamous marriages. If a woman discovers that there is some kind of a relationship between her husband and another woman, that woman automatically becomes an enemy and in circumstances where men have bore children outside marriages, the woman married to the man hates the other woman even with her child. 14. Murder or killing. Some women go to the extent of hiring people or consulting witchcraft to kill the other woman and her child. 15. Sex before marriages is a huge Sin to God, however all these monogamous marriages begin with such a sin in the name of boy/girlfriend, the relationship then goes to fiance and if not satisfied with each other, the couple can decide not to marry in due course many women out there end up just losing their dignity a very disgusting and disgrace thing to God. Children born outside the wedlock are name called as 16 Bastards. A very evil things to do to others. No child was named such in the Bible. How about God do we think in such marriages He could raise people like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel etc to warn us of certain things? From MARRIAGES He is not a part of forming? Impossible! That's why nowadays we have more false prophets than God sent. We have restricted God from manifesting Himself in marriages as He used to those days because the people He used were from polygamy families. Unless this is fix otherwise it has a huge repurccusions after death
@@sallykumwenda5308 well said Sis! You have such a wealth of knowledge that many women need to hear. Do you have a ministry specific to woman? If not, I suggest you pray 🙏🏾 about this. You’re on fire 🔥! Thank you for sharing your well reasoned insights! Many Blessings to you and yours!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen basically I am not in any ministry but I am agitated to have this deception of one man one woman marriage end. I have just finished my PhD and I am thinking of writing a book about it. However I would love if we could come together as a movement of Christ to enlighten people about this deception moving globally. That's why I gave my email address. Because we would be doing a very commendable job for God and in the end saving so many from the punishment of hell which comes out of this man made marriage set up.
@@rasthehead Good question! Not specifically, but premarital sex is simply when a man to becomes one flesh with a woman by having sex with her without a commitment. In God’s eyes, they are one flesh which obligates the man to then commit to her, if he does not, it is thereby casual sex which the Bible prohibits. This is also why sex with prostitutes is so immoral, because it is done involve a commitment.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Alright, I hear you but @Lowe Life's comment implies you don't think premarital sex is sin. I'm not judging, I'm a bit confused and trying to understand your perspective. Personally, after doing research in the past on premarital sex and what it really is based on the Bible's definition, is obviously not a man having sex with a concubine regardless of the non-explicit or explicit non-verbal or verbal confirmation of her being his. For example, he meets her today, they click, she understands that she is his and that he is her's and they sleep together and remain as one moving forward. He still provides for her in one way or another. In modern times she might live under his roof or not you know, depending on the situation, she might live off of his money, he'll probably be her protector, she functions in the light of [one of] his woman and so on, therefore he is committed to her and she to him because of how their relationship operates. Premarital sex for a man is sex with a woman to who he is not committed, meaning he could've found her at the club and has a one-night-stand with her and premarital sex for a woman is giving herself to a man that isn't her man [read the one-night-stand example]. This is especially wrong when the woman gives her virginity to anyone and ends up sleeping with everyone because "his funny". Do you agree?
@@rasthehead you make some interesting points! However, I guess I’ll need to dig into this a little further. First off, both you and @Lowlife are correct in my opinion. The issue here is as you say, we are in a different culture from the writers of Scripture. Secondly, premarital sex in today’s terminology implies that one is not married based on being solemnized by the state and or marriage officiant. The whole idea of saying someone is committing premarital sex is just that. This is because under Roman Catholic dogma of 1563 any couple that has sex that has not been married under the ceremonial sanctioning of the church, the Latin term for it is called ‘fornication’ transliterated from ‘porneia,’ according to the RCC, and today this called premarital sex because the two did not go before the Church first. The problem with the RCC’s and the modern day definition does not transliterate that there idolatrous connotation of ‘porneia,’ so such transliteration doesn’t give the word enough justice it deserves. It is watered down in our English translation is what I’m saying. However, thirdly, the Bible, as @Low life, I assume was alluding to does not deem the act as heinous enough to require the perpetrator needed to offer a sin offering to God, so it, in and of itself is not a sinful act in that sense against God. Nevertheless, it does come with penalty as the perpetrator must pay the full bride price for the price of a virgin to the woman’s father, because it is he whom he has wronged and must marry her if her father requires him to do so, and he must not divorce her for the rest of his life. This is because he slept with her without her father’s permission. Not the church. Therefore, in a true Biblical sense, having sex with a virgin before deciding to commit to her without her father’s permission is a wrong committed against her father, but not necessarily God. It would be a sin against God, if the man refused to pay the bride price and commit his life to her if the father required it of him though. Hopefully, this helps!
Thanks Brother! Many Blessings to you! Yes, Lilith as far as I’m aware is taken from the Babylonian influence over Israel and is a mythological account recorded in the Mesopotamian, Sumerian, Akkadian and Assyrian literatures. She is noted as being the first wife of Adam.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen yes, I think this is related to your point about Adam having one then one wife and how his sons were able to marry females.
I see what you mean now. Although I didn’t think of it that way when you asked. However, the question would remain, and according to what’s recorded I. Scripture, why would the ancient Hebrews not include this Babylonia account of Lilith prior to prior to the Assyrian and Babylonian captivities in the first place? I mean why is Lilith not seen in their text till say, the Dead Sea Scrolls?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen we don't know that for fact, we do know that the Bible and other writings was altered and some information was excluded from the Bible. Have you read the lost book on Enoch?
I get the well... were no longer under the law... well.... i believe we are in a time of reckoning... back to Torah as best as we can in each nation where were at.
Torah is God’s law. There are only certain aspects of it that has changed and fulfilled, but in there are principles that are timeless and always be. Therefore, God has always wanted and will want His people subject to His law, period. And yes, we should always seek to please by keeping His law. From nation to nation.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen modern Christianity is against Polygyny and does not observe The Sabbath Friday evening to Saturday evening. I actively promote Polygyny and the importance of observing Sabbath according to God's decree.
You are the one actually trying to stretch Deuteronomy 17:17 to fit the idea of prohibiting all men when it is specifically written to kings and not all men as you say, “I’m creating my own rule for marriage.” No, the issue is that you are likely not familiar with this passage and Biblical marriage than you think you are. Kings in those days used marriages, money and horses to fortify their influence and strength, which is why this commandment given. Please read the fuller context (Deuteronomy 17:14-20). God didn’t want them to be like other kings. My question to you is how do you interpret Deuteronomy 17:17 in light of Exodus 21:7-11 and Deuteronomy 21:15-17? Also, why would God command Hagar to go back to her polygynous household in Genesis 16 if He was so against the idea and that I’m just creating my own rule, as you say?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen There is no where in scripture that God blesses polygamy. Matthew 19:4-6 NIV 4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen In the end times men will be deceived and lead into sin. You are going to be held responsible for those you lead into sin.
@@ricknelson3607 first of all, Vs 6 of Matt. 19 let’s us know that Jesus was talking about divorce which is about subtracting one’s wife not adding wives which is exactly what polygyny is. Therefore, are you not taking Matt. 19 out of context by inferring polygyny into it? Secondly, you say that there’s no Scripture that God blessed polygamy, but have you not read?: •2 Samuel 12:7-8, where God Himself makes it known that “He gave David his multiple wives and if that wasn’t enough, He would have given him more.” •Genesis 33:1-7, Jacob affirmed that his 4 wives and children “were graciously given to him by God.” •The elders and people at Bethlehem believed that God the Lord built the house of Israel through Jacob’s wives in Ruth 4:11. Each of these passages show that God blessed, gave and used polygamy to prosper His people.
@@ricknelson3607 in your implication of polygamy being a sin, what Scriptural proof can you produce that says that it is a sin? And if it is, why would God use it at all for the benefit and His people His people to practice? Why did He use it as a metaphor for His relationship with his people in Jeremiah 3; Matthew 25:1-13?
Genesis 2:24 gives us a picture of the marriage bond before sin entered the world: “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh” (Genesis 2:24, NKJV). “One flesh” echoes the language of the preceding verse when Adam first meets Eve and exclaims, “This one is bone of my bone, and flesh from my flesh!” (Genesis 2:23, NLT).
Thank you for comment! Although I agree with what you say here, I am yet curious as to how would you understand what you’re say in light of the concept of monogamy and polygyny? I’m curious.
Okay but jesus takes the church as his wife in the end their fore they become one flesh with his chosen. This in no way disproves polygamy? Show me where God said not to do it cuz I have not found it. Only scriptures that prove his approval
Greetings, I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours! - Mike Allen
@@broshahkan5362 thanks Brother! I know you’re already privy to the knowledge within. Nevertheless, I ask that you do share the link. I appreciate you! Many Blessings! Shalom!
Thank you for such a great question! Let’s say I do indulge in all you ask, how exactly by doing so does that not coincide with nor can be seen as truth?
I believe it’s not GOD perfect will because if you have too many wives your heart will turn away from GOD this is exactly what king Solomon did however I do agree with you it not a sin our GOD is more concerned about our hearts turning away from him
+@ambiencemusic376 However, God’s will never aligns with sin, although Solomon’s sin ultimately was not how many women he had but that he married idolatrous women in 1 Kings 11:1-13.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen yes you are correct it not how many women he had that was a sin his women worshiped idols and they turned his heart from away from GOD and that was his sin
Just so you know, I lost my position as a minister/preacher of the Gospel because I publicly taught some of the very things you've detailed in this series. You are right when you say that the topic of polygeny terrifies many people in the today's culture. I believe that society today would be better-served if righteous polygyny was practiced today. It has profound ramifications to marital relations.
Dave in Texas, wow! So we share similar experiences, I see! I too was removed from an associate Pastor’s position in March of 2019 for choosing to exercise polygyny. I thank God for your boldness in speaking the truth, my Brother! Yes, the fact that many are terrified only proves that prescriptive monogamy does not originate from the “Spirit of power, love and of a sound mind,” which is “not of fear.”
Stand up for the truth my brother
It's the devil's way of taking MULTITUDES to hell and it's happening. The devil has hidden in marriages by manipulating Polygamy to monogamy using so many human justifications which most of them judge God sooo much as if it was just some senseless being. It's a pity.
I hope these women flee fm yoll demonic practices...just evilness
Noah's son, Moses, Abraham, David, Solomon were all Polygynists. As a kid I never understood how these guys could be wrong. Many of them had personal relationships with God. God obviously knew what they were doing. God never rebuked them for it. God blessed them. I never felt it could be wrong, so I got really confused growing up and hearing how now a' days it's so bad. God doesn't change. He was pro Polygyny then. He's pro Polygyny now.
+Jules Falcone Amen to that! I totally agree…
Not only that my dear. Our Lord Jesus Christ isn't He referred to as the son of David? Isn't David referred to as a man after God's heart? (1 Samuel 14:13) isn't David referred to as a righteous man till his death? (1 Samuel 24:17; 1 Kings 15:5) How about God's chosen people the Israelites weren't they from Jacob's all four wives? God used Joseph to make Himself known, wasn't he the son of Racheal the second wife of Jacob? How about Samuel whom God used so much talking to him one on one wasn't he the son of Hanna second wife of Elkana? Am telling you these one man one woman man made designed MARRIAGES are totally against God. They are reason why the world is actually Soo evil
@@sallykumwenda5308 WOW! That is awesome Sally. Merry Christmas!!! I'm going to copy your quote. That's the most indepth argument I've ever seen on this topic.
@@julesfalcone Thanks so much dear. Also remember that God actually also gave laws to be applied in polygamous marriages read Deuteronomy 21:15-23 about the right of the first born. Here is what God said:
15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:
Apart from this if you read Leviticus 18 God has listed all sexual immoral practices. Most of them are about sexual practices concerning Polygamous marriages where a son for example need not to have sex with his biological mother or any of his father's other wives. And do you know that these dubious pastors have also twisted the meaning of what sexual immorality is? No one reads the Bible on this but it's there in Leviticus 18. However the subject is discussed in line with a married man having sex outside marriage which isn't even there on these sexual immorality practices as cited by God. Ohhhh the Devil is managing to take many to hell just on this one manipulation of marriages from Polygamy to monogamy. I read the Bible myself and discovered the truth myself
@@sallykumwenda5308 You're a true scholar Ms. Kumwenda. I know the modern church shames people about sexuality to control them but are you saying that God doesn't speak about a married man having sex outside marriage? Or,
Adultery is sleeping with another man's wife.
But does it end there?
I obviously modern preachers preach all extra-marital sex is adultery.
I'm figuring this out as I'm writing.
Is it your comprehension that God doesn't speak about sex outside marriage?
(I appreciate your responses very much.)
Unfortunately churches won't teach the truth about this is why I don't go to a church.
Iv always believed in this as a wife .
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Thank you, brother! I love the biblical references. My biggest challenge was being afraid to believe in polygany just because I want it to be true, and not bc its permissable to God. After going back and reading the passages, within their proper context, it seems to be totally permissable under God's law
You’re welcome, Brother! Yes I too have had to answer that exact same questions as I embraced and decided to accept what Scripture says on this. I wrestled with whether it was of my own lust or it just simply is God’s will for humanity. That’s why I find comfort in what Solomon said concerning the desires of a man, when he said, “I also gathered for myself silver and gold and the treasure of kings and provinces. I got singers, both men and women, and many concubines, the delight of the sons of man.” (Ecc. 2:8, ESV) He says, once again, “the delight for men are to have many concubines.” In words, it’s okay to desire/lust for them as long as that desire isn’t covetousness, which is to desire women that belong to someone else. To that Moses said, “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” (Exod. 20:17, NKJV)
The LAWS that a man breaks are
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1. Leviticus 18:18. You shall not marry a woman in addition to her sister as a rival while she is alive, to uncover her nakedness.
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The word SISTER there means “one to another” NOT “blood sisters” … so he is blatantly saying DO NOT DO THIS!
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It further insinuates that “to do so places your wife in a RIVALRY with another woman in her house.”
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Does that PRACTICE meet the qualities of LOVE in 1 Cor 13:4-8? Or Ephesians 5:22-33
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1. Deuteronomy 17:17 He shall not acquire multiple wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away [from God];
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Solomon DID THIS and “his heart turned away to worship other gods that his WIVES also worshipped …” 1 Kings 11:4-9
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Christ AFFIRMS one wife for each man with the model of BIBLICAL MARRIAGE in Ephesians 5:22-33. He speaks of the mystery of Christ and His bride which is the church. He says marriage is a perfect model for that … so if poly was encouraged … WHY DOESN’T CHRIST HAVE MULTIPLE BRIDES? … 🤓
Good job again. I have no objections to anything you said in reference to the Biblical text on this sensitive subject.
Dave in Texas thanks again! And I’m glad we are in agreement!
Thank you. I would urge you to produce more content on this subject. Thank you, brother.
You’re welcome! I certainly will. Had to take a lay off, but do watch out. More is on the way. Thank you for your appreciation!
May The Most High bless you big bro! Thank you for speaking TRUTH!!!
+Percy Hack thank you so much my Brother, and may He Bless you the same!
Another great video thanks
You’re welcome Sis!
Nope not this woman I need a sister wife! I think it's a wayy better way. There is no real power in solitude. The true blessings are in children. More wives = more children for all married to the man. I'd love to raise a bunch of baby's with other wemon who also love and are faithful to my man. I don't know why there is so much stigma around it. If I had two or three other wemon home with me as a team. Oh boy I don't even have the words for what a blessing that would be.
This is because you are a rare jewel in an evil day we live in! Most women cannot see this math simply because of the stigma causes, once again, to incite fear in them. Feminism has propelled this stigma, along with western theology, in order to shackle the headship and authority of a man, given by God (1 Corinthians 11:1-3 & 1 Peter 3:1-6). In other words, Satan uses the very fear of women to impede the man from being as “fruitful and multiplying,” as God commands. Many Blessings to you!
I need more brothers like this too help me teach in baltimore md..
Shalom Brethren! “The harvest is plenty but laborers are few.” Are you with a particular camp or congregation? I’m actually in Brooklyn. Many Blessings!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen no camp only a study group..im from brooklyn md..lol
Rabbi Tim- othy Shah-un I see. Despise not the day of small things. Small groups are very powerful! Brooklyn, MD, what coincidence lol.
Your preaches brings me peace
Great presentation brother! Love your work!
+Prince Arthur Thank you Brother!
The LAWS that a man breaks are
•
1. Leviticus 18:18. You shall not marry a woman in addition to her sister as a rival while she is alive, to uncover her nakedness.
•
The word SISTER there means “one to another” NOT “blood sisters” … so he is blatantly saying DO NOT DO THIS!
•
It further insinuates that “to do so places your wife in a RIVALRY with another woman in her house.”
•
Does that PRACTICE meet the qualities of LOVE in 1 Cor 13:4-8? Or Ephesians 5:22-33
•
1. Deuteronomy 17:17 He shall not acquire multiple wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away [from God];
•
Solomon DID THIS and “his heart turned away to worship other gods that his WIVES also worshipped …” 1 Kings 11:4-9
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Christ AFFIRMS one wife for each man with the model of BIBLICAL MARRIAGE in Ephesians 5:22-33. He speaks of the mystery of Christ and His bride which is the church. He says marriage is a perfect model for that … so if poly was encouraged … WHY DOESN’T CHRIST HAVE MULTIPLE BRIDES? … 🤓
Good work again my bro!
On the issue of of Jesus talking to the pharesees this has always been taken out of context since he was addressing issues to do with divorce and not polygyny. But on a note for those who may claim that since Adam and eve had a monogamy so should be ideal template for humanity ought to see that there was no sin or law during this time in the garden of eden until that couple disobeyed God. After, any covenant between God and adam was broken by the time they were sent away from eden( if there was any binding agreement to only have one wife got annulled when the first sin was committed) Law was only introduced after this event (Moses laws that describes what is or is not sin) which none was against polygyny.
hellespont1 and thank you once again as well! You too have dropped a bomb when you say that whatever covenantal that may have intended only monogamy for Adam and Eve was annulled in the fall! Thanks! I love that!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Also, it really bothers me when Christians use that example bc - they are applying Pharisaical logic. They use Jesus words to do to us, what The Pharisees were trying to do to Jesus.
@@julesfalcone Exactly. Let's just make sure we make the right agreement just as Jesus always did.
Moses also committed murder, so according to your logic it is OK for men to go and commit murder as well. The story of Moses is not to lift up Moses but to show how God can even use men such as Moses to do his will.
Thanks for your comment! Actually, my logic is not to lift up Moses but to only show that Moses never taught against polygyny but only sanctioned, regulated and practiced it. However, unlike wilts murder, polygyny was never condemned by him. For Moses never gave any validity to the practice murder as he did polygyny.
Truth .
Good job dude.
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
@diggingintheword The LAWS that a man breaks are
•
1. Leviticus 18:18. You shall not marry a woman in addition to her sister as a rival while she is alive, to uncover her nakedness.
•
The word SISTER there means “one to another” NOT “blood sisters” … so he is blatantly saying DO NOT DO THIS!
•
It further insinuates that “to do so places your wife in a RIVALRY with another woman in her house.”
•
Does that PRACTICE meet the qualities of LOVE in 1 Cor 13:4-8? Or Ephesians 5:22-33
•
1. Deuteronomy 17:17 He shall not acquire multiple wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away [from God];
•
Solomon DID THIS and “his heart turned away to worship other gods that his WIVES also worshipped …” 1 Kings 11:4-9
•
Christ AFFIRMS one wife for each man with the model of BIBLICAL MARRIAGE in Ephesians 5:22-33. He speaks of the mystery of Christ and His bride which is the church. He says marriage is a perfect model for that … so if poly was encouraged … WHY DOESN’T CHRIST HAVE MULTIPLE BRIDES? … 🤓
Read the apocrypha people.
Brother, I have been searching about Moses and cound't find anywhere that he had more than one wife. There are people that says Cushe and Midian are the same and some people don't know for sure. If cushe and midian are the same, he had just one wife according to the bible. If the places arent the same. He had 2, but nothing implies it was at the same time from my perpective. Could you say more about that? My best regards from Brazil.
Blessings My Brother! Great question!
Yes, there have been those who claim that the Cushites and Midianites were the same. However, a good question to ask is, “If the woman Moses took on in Numbers 12 was actually Zipporah the Midianite of Exodus 2, then why does the language in Numbers 12 appear to imply that he had recently taken her on?” For Zipporah was of a 40 year, plus, marriage to Moses. Yet, he was a man who heard the voice of God in the face of the Israelites even since his return to Egypt in Exodus 4. Since that time, Aaron and Miriam had already seen Moses lead under the Most High’s influence all the way up to Numbers 12:1. Only then do we read that they took issue with the wife he married, because she was an Ethiopian, and if they already knew that Moses was married at that point, then why the big stink years later about the very, so called, wife he had for 40 years plus? Mind you, Jethro, Moses’ father in law, brought Zipporah and their two sons to Moses shortly after the Exodus, out of Egypt, so Miriam and Aaron had at least known about Zipporah since then, so why then the sudden disappointment much later in the Book of Numbers? Two books later. As for the word Cush or Cushites, it can also be translated as Ethiopia, because the Ethiopians were black-skinned people. A Number of Biblical references allude to this fact (Is 18:2; Jr 13:23). Besides, not only the burden of proof is on those who make this claim, it is also a pretty recent argument.
An interesting article examining what different scholars have said concerning this debate concludes:
A close examination of this passage (Nm 12:1-16) and other related passages which mention the Cushit, Miriam and Midian show that the Cushite woman cannot be Zipporah, but an African woman, for the following reasons:
· There is no evidence of association of the Cushite woman with Zipporah or a Midianite in the passage or other passages related to Moses' wife, therefore such should not be assumed.
· Midian and Zipporah were never referred to as Kush or Cushite in all the biblical records. Midian and Kush or Midianite and Cushite were never used interchangeably in either the biblical, the Egyptian, or the Assyrian records. Jethro was never called a Cushite. Josephus differentiated between Midian and Kush (Book II:10-1).
· It does not make sense for Miriam to speak against Moses because of a wife (Zipporah) whom Moses had married for about 40 years.
· The Hebrew clause עַל-אֹדוֹת הָאִשָּׁה הַכֻּשִׁית אֲשֶׁר לָקָח: כִּי-אִשָּׁה כֻשִׁית, לָקָח. ('because of the Cushite woman which he married' (literally took), 'for he had married a Cushite woman') strongly implies a recent marriage. Therefore, the Jewish tradition of equating the Cushite woman with Zipporah has no basis. It was probably an apologetic device to keep Moses a monogamist (Gray 1910:121-122; Noth 1975:77).
There are four reasons to believe that the Cushite wife of Moses is a black African woman.
(www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S2305-08532018000100028&lng=en&nrm=iso&tlng=en)
Now whether if these women mentioned are the same person, or not, should it even matter since Moses himself was not against polygyny? It would be one thing if he only had one wife and wrote against the practice. However, we know that he certainly took no issue with it, but only regulated its continuance (Exodus 21:7; Deuteronomy 21:15-17).
Your comment on the "God created one man and one woman, not multiple women" objection was very intelligent. I've never thought of it that way. I'll be sure to use your points.
I also wanted to know your thoughts on a polygynous man having group sex with his women, aka three to moresomes. From a personal and Christian point of view, I don't see any problem with it. Many have said God allowed polygyny, obviously implying that He doesn't today, that is was never His will, in the end meaning God changes which we know He does not. They say God only allows the polygynist to sleep with one woman at a time. I genuinely I'm not sure where they have gotten this understanding from because as far as I know, the Bible does not say a polygynist is only permitted to have coitus with one woman at a time.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you agree? What is your personal belief and your belief based on what the Word says? I appreciate the response.
Another good query Brother!
The Bible does not explicitly condemn moresomes with one’s wives. However, I do believe it does implicitly condemn it though. Here’s why:
Firstly, there are no Scriptures that teaches that a man is permitted to do so, so from an explicit perspective, the Bible is silent, and where the Bible is silent, we should remain silent.
Secondly, in principle, there are numerous examples of men that had multiple wives, and each time they went into one, there are no indications that either of their other wives were either present, much less participated. For instance, when Abraham went into Hagar, it was implied that Sarah did not go into the bedroom tent as well in Genesis 16. Another example was with Jacob’s wives. In Genesis 30:9-16, Leah bartered with Rachel to get a night with Jacob showing that Leah was not present the times Rachel was with him herself. And as taboo as it was, another example is with Lot’s daughters who got him drunk, two nights in a row,
where they took turns, but not at the same time, and had sex with him. Showing that they understood that to have a moresome with him was not what they were culturally comfortable with.
Thirdly, each wife of a man’s marriage in polygyny is unique unto itself. When Hagar was sent away, Sarah was still Abraham’s wife. Also, Paul said that a wife is freed upon her husband’s death from the marriage covenant in Romans 7:1-3, proving that the covenants is between a wife and her husband and that it is a unique bond between them respectively.
And fourthly, to watch two people have sex, much less engage with them, would be porneia and an orgy in nature, since the covenants between wives are distinct.
Therefore, I find moresomes to be problematic for believers!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen You made good points. I have acknowledged the fact that Lot's daughters had sex with him separately but even though they did the same as polygynous couples in the Bible, I do not think that would make group sex sinful. The Bible may not have a statement on every subject, but I personally believe Christians can come to conclusions based on logic, for example, we do not know whether or not polygyny would have come into being if Adam and Eve had not sinned.
This case is a bit of a different story because we know polygyny is not sinful and in fact Godly, but when it comes to polygyny and the fall of man, I conclude that the potential of polygyny coming into being still could've and probably would've taken place because nothing would've stopped Lamech from taking two wives.
I will further study the meaning of porneia because I know the definition can vary depending on the context. I do believe that a marriage union is between a man and a woman respectively, but I don't think I could conclude that meant group sex would be outrighted as sinful, though I do pray for guidance from the Holy Spirit on this matter.
@@rasthehead most certainly Brother, you are on the right track when you include the HS. I would encourage you though, while you pursue more godly insight on this matter to ask yourself the questions:
•Hypothetically, What if one of your wives were converted from a former life of lesbianism and pornography and is now a God fearing believer. Would having her naked with your other wives naked as well not tempt her to her former lusts? Does not the word teach that we are not to be a stumbling block to our brethren that struggle with past sinful lifestyles (Romans 14, 1 Corinthians 8 & 10)? Would you not be then using what you say you now have freedom in as a hindrance to her? And, how common is there that those converted in Christ now do struggle with former sensual sexual passions? Would you not be hard pressed to not find a few that has come from a former sinful sexual past in these days and times?
In other words, it is very hard to not consider the visual ungodly temptations when it comes to allowing a 3rd party into the bedroom. This is why we wear clothes today. This is also why there numerous passages that forbid agains exposing one’s nakedness, even to close family members. For even the nakedness between Adam and Eve was covered up by God. Remember how Noah’s younger son exposed his father’s nakedness, while the elder sons respected it. And yes, this is after the fall we are prescribed to cover our nakedness. However, even the apostles taught about the propriety of attire.
Let me know your thoughts.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen It could. Hypothetically speaking, if the woman did have the former life which _you described as sinful_ then sure, she definitely might be tempted to engage in other kinds of "sex".
I will further my studies on homosexuality and what the Bible says. I quoted 'sex' because sex between females is not possible. I say this because it is written that a man should not lie with a man in the manner that he lies with a woman, obviously implying he cannot penetrate the man. I believe this verse was written the way it was because a woman and a woman, logically speaking, cannot have _sex_ so to say.
It says for men not to have sexual relations with men. And then mentions for both women and also men not have sexual relations with animals, but did you notice what is missing? Where does it say "Woman can not have sexual relations with another woman"? It appears to be missing. Now, if polygyny is not a sin, do you see any reason why it would relevant to leave this out? Consider the situation where a man is with his two wives in bed and they are both having sex with him. Could not a command such as "woman can not lie with woman" or "A woman may not lie with a woman the way she lie with a man" be construed as an argument against females having sex in or outside of a polygynous marriage?
So, I believe God left out such a command for this very reason. Now, I believe lesbianism goes against God's design for marriage in terms of the same sex not being able to become legitimately married. I don't think God would look at two women or men who are romantically involved with each other and say "Those two a married.", firstly because all types of romantic relationships between men is forbidden expect non-sexual, the design of marriage is a man with a woman so I do not permit women to commit to each other, but the point is, God is not against polygyny, so such a command of women with women is left out as a result.
What do you think? This is what I firmly believe.
How to you interpret Jesus in Mathew 5 v 27 and 28?
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[a] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
What is Jesus teaching here?
+christianmarsh Rosey Good question! Jesus is teaching here that adultery is a sin that begins with lust that goes back to 10th commandment, that says, “17“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” (Exod. 20:17)
For covetousness is spiritual adultery, so the woman He refers to in Matthew 5, belongs to another man (Lev. 20:10). Not a single unmarried woman that is not under her husband or father’s care.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen So how comes for hundreds of years we have been taught that the lusting refers to any woman, whether single or married? Jesus never specifically said married women. It sounds like he was changing the Old Testament teaching regarding what adultery was.
@@christianmarshrosey1977 sounds like another great question on your part! If you take a look at my series on my channel called “A Deception Over Time,” (czcams.com/video/pGZwLfO3--Q/video.html) you’d see how it appears Jesus changed what the law said. Watch parts 1-5, where I show how western Christianity has altered translation and forced in traditions and standards that are not Scriptural. Now the short answer to your question is all you have to do is go a few verses up in Matthew 5:17-20, and you will see that Jesus said Himself that, “He didn’t come to change anything in the Law.” In fact, Jesus said that we must teach what the Law commands. Nothing more, nothing less, so when we go back to the Law, adultery is always in reference to whether a woman is married. Lust, which is covetousness is always also in reference to whatever belongs to someone else, which is why I cited the 10th commandment. Never for a single woman who is eligible and not covered.
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@@digginintheword-withmikeallen you ever read this article before en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_ancient_Rome
lance asher although I don’t remember reading specifically this one, I am familiar with what it lays out. The crazy thing about this is how this information is so easily accessible and most Bible believers in the west are not familiar with the reality that imposed monogamy did not originate in the church.
I'm a polytheist, I'm not that religious and for me personally, as someone who tends to be a nonconformist (I tend to see flaws in the 10 Commandments but I mean nothing bad by this) is definitely up for polygyny. I'm tired of the common mindset about how it should only be monogamy and typical scenes in movies, music videos, etc, of a girl catching her boyfriend with another girl and wants a breakup or feels betrayed. People need more awareness of what polygamy/polygyny is and it's benefits. The man has to learn to be an alpha male and the girls need to be in acceptance and tolerable of it as well as learning and having a sense of sisterhood or sorority among one another.
Hey Shinku, thank you for your comment and sharing your perspectives! Yes there is too much that is propagandized against polygyny in today’s society, depending where you live. Btw, where are you commenting from, and I would love to hear the flaws you see in the 10 Commandments? However, certainly, I’m with you on the need for educating people on this wonderful lifestyle. Also, I whole heartedly agree that men and women must learn their function in being together. Thanks again 💪🏽
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Trust me MULTITUDES of people are going to hell for normalizing man made one man one woman marriage. It's the one that's against God. Polygamy is the marriage that God put in place
Yes, there’s always a problem with picking and choosing on what to keep that God commands and reveals.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen And if we can see through these Polygamous marriages it has brought alone many sins. 1. Nowadays marriages have kind of become a competition especially amongst women, I get married I win, I don't get married I lose. We know what happens where there is a competition, people need to find ways and means to win that competition using all the strategies for example some even go to the extent of consulting witch craft and other satanic powers to have a man marry them. We see online people who know voodoo advertising themselves that they are capable to make a man marry them. This already is a demonic way of killing other people's mind to marry you. Another competition is won by women through things such as makeups, wearing revealing clothes to seduce men. There is so much on this just to mention a few. Imagine if we find marriages in such a manner how is that marriage legit and sacred to God. Can we even say that such a marriage is connected to God? But we see people being married using demonic ways still talks about God having connected them. That's blasphemy another sin. Such things were never there during God's time when God was in charge of marriages. Wedding vows weren't even used those days because marriages were arranged by God, people put in marriages already knew their responsibility in their marriage with regards to God and their husbands and aware about such a union to be for a life time unless otherwise as commanded by God about marriage laws2. If a woman is not married the result is being ridiculed like she is the worst human being and even name calling such women like prostitutes, etc. Such behaviors aren't connected to God because that's not the love that God has called the entire world to do. 4. As men were meant to marry multiple wives, the world is trying to control something no human being could, that's why even if a woman can regard herself as very attractive, a man will still go outside to look for another woman. Unfortunately since of the worldly norms pertaining marriages men do so in secret and this results into sins like 5. lies which the world has coined a name alongside such a practice as "cheating" read the Bible this word is no where written as to mean a man seeking love elsewhere. Unfortunately it's a word used even by pastors to ridicule men. This kind of lie was never there in the Bible because every woman had a chance of being married and those who married first already knew about such possibilities. God hate men to just sneak out there and have sex with other women with no intentions of marrying them just because they fear their wives. That's where the problem of sins like the 6. fornication comes into play. These monogamous marriages have brought sins hated by God including 7, selfishness, women say apart from me you are not supposed to marry any one else. But what if there is a widow out there or even an orphan out there mature enough to be married and God wants her to be taken care by Him under the care of your husband? Because God says He is God of widows and orphans and again and again He speaks of people to defend such people. We all know that God helps people through other people. But with what has happened nowadays manipulating marriages the world is kind of putting limits for God to fulfill some of His promises like in this case saying orphans and widows can't be taken care sharing a man with me. Selfishness. And the Bible already says that where there is selfish ambitions there is all other evil practices. 10. Jealous, women are now so jealous of each other, they don't trust each other when it comes to men. If one woman has man she will always be suspicious and 11 fear of other women at some point sleeping with their husband. Men who "cheat" also have fear of being discovered by their wives and be divorced. Jealous makes women be suspicious of their men to the extent of hiring private investigators to find out if they are "cheating" These kinds of insecurities were not there when God played a huge role in marriage. 12. Divorce is another serious sin in these marriages. Because we marry people that don't belong to us in the first place, that's why divorce takes place. Women nowadays have been given authority to divorce a man which is not there in the Bible. When a man is found having another woman, divorce is done in the name of "sexual immorality" when it's not. Sins like 13 hate is also a product of monogamous marriages. If a woman discovers that there is some kind of a relationship between her husband and another woman, that woman automatically becomes an enemy and in circumstances where men have bore children outside marriages, the woman married to the man hates the other woman even with her child. 14. Murder or killing. Some women go to the extent of hiring people or consulting witchcraft to kill the other woman and her child. 15. Sex before marriages is a huge Sin to God, however all these monogamous marriages begin with such a sin in the name of boy/girlfriend, the relationship then goes to fiance and if not satisfied with each other, the couple can decide not to marry in due course many women out there end up just losing their dignity a very disgusting and disgrace thing to God. Children born outside the wedlock are name called as 16 Bastards. A very evil things to do to others. No child was named such in the Bible. How about God do we think in such marriages He could raise people like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel etc to warn us of certain things? From MARRIAGES He is not a part of forming? Impossible! That's why nowadays we have more false prophets than God sent. We have restricted God from manifesting Himself in marriages as He used to those days because the people He used were from polygamy families. Unless this is fix otherwise it has a huge repurccusions after death
@@sallykumwenda5308 well said Sis! You have such a wealth of knowledge that many women need to hear. Do you have a ministry specific to woman? If not, I suggest you pray 🙏🏾 about this. You’re on fire 🔥! Thank you for sharing your well reasoned insights! Many Blessings to you and yours!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen basically I am not in any ministry but I am agitated to have this deception of one man one woman marriage end. I have just finished my PhD and I am thinking of writing a book about it. However I would love if we could come together as a movement of Christ to enlighten people about this deception moving globally. That's why I gave my email address. Because we would be doing a very commendable job for God and in the end saving so many from the punishment of hell which comes out of this man made marriage set up.
@@sallykumwenda5308 I see. Great! I will connect with you over the next few days, if that’s okay? Blessings!
Brother I seen your comments on premarital sex and I don't think the bible teaches that as a sin.
Thanks for your comment Brother! Amen to that! If it was a sin, I’m sure the Lord would have made it known.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen What are your thoughts on premarital sex? Have you uploaded a video concerning this subject?
@@rasthehead Good question! Not specifically, but premarital sex is simply when a man to becomes one flesh with a woman by having sex with her without a commitment. In God’s eyes, they are one flesh which obligates the man to then commit to her, if he does not, it is thereby casual sex which the Bible prohibits. This is also why sex with prostitutes is so immoral, because it is done involve a commitment.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Alright, I hear you but @Lowe Life's comment implies you don't think premarital sex is sin. I'm not judging, I'm a bit confused and trying to understand your perspective.
Personally, after doing research in the past on premarital sex and what it really is based on the Bible's definition, is obviously not a man having sex with a concubine regardless of the non-explicit or explicit non-verbal or verbal confirmation of her being his. For example, he meets her today, they click, she understands that she is his and that he is her's and they sleep together and remain as one moving forward. He still provides for her in one way or another.
In modern times she might live under his roof or not you know, depending on the situation, she might live off of his money, he'll probably be her protector, she functions in the light of [one of] his woman and so on, therefore he is committed to her and she to him because of how their relationship operates.
Premarital sex for a man is sex with a woman to who he is not committed, meaning he could've found her at the club and has a one-night-stand with her and premarital sex for a woman is giving herself to a man that isn't her man [read the one-night-stand example]. This is especially wrong when the woman gives her virginity to anyone and ends up sleeping with everyone because "his funny".
Do you agree?
@@rasthehead you make some interesting points! However, I guess I’ll need to dig into this a little further.
First off, both you and @Lowlife are correct in my opinion. The issue here is as you say, we are in a different culture from the writers of Scripture.
Secondly, premarital sex in today’s terminology implies that one is not married based on being solemnized by the state and or marriage officiant. The whole idea of saying someone is committing premarital sex is just that. This is because under Roman Catholic dogma of 1563 any couple that has sex that has not been married under the ceremonial sanctioning of the church, the Latin term for it is called ‘fornication’ transliterated from ‘porneia,’ according to the RCC, and today this called premarital sex because the two did not go before the Church first. The problem with the RCC’s and the modern day definition does not transliterate that there idolatrous connotation of ‘porneia,’ so such transliteration doesn’t give the word enough justice it deserves. It is watered down in our English translation is what I’m saying.
However, thirdly, the Bible, as @Low life, I assume was alluding to does not deem the act as heinous enough to require the perpetrator needed to offer a sin offering to God, so it, in and of itself is not a sinful act in that sense against God. Nevertheless, it does come with penalty as the perpetrator must pay the full bride price for the price of a virgin to the woman’s father, because it is he whom he has wronged and must marry her if her father requires him to do so, and he must not divorce her for the rest of his life. This is because he slept with her without her father’s permission. Not the church.
Therefore, in a true Biblical sense, having sex with a virgin before deciding to commit to her without her father’s permission is a
wrong committed against her father, but not necessarily God. It would be a sin against God, if the man refused to pay the bride price and commit his life to her if the father required it of him though.
Hopefully, this helps!
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Good stuff!! What do you know about the relationship between Adam and Lilith??
Thanks Brother! Many Blessings to you! Yes, Lilith as far as I’m aware is taken from the Babylonian influence over Israel and is a mythological account recorded in the Mesopotamian, Sumerian, Akkadian and Assyrian literatures. She is noted as being the first wife of Adam.
Why do you ask?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen yes, I think this is related to your point about Adam having one then one wife and how his sons were able to marry females.
I see what you mean now. Although I didn’t think of it that way when you asked. However, the question would remain, and according to what’s recorded I. Scripture, why would the ancient Hebrews not include this Babylonia account of Lilith prior to prior to the Assyrian and Babylonian captivities in the first place? I mean why is Lilith not seen in their text till say, the Dead Sea Scrolls?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen we don't know that for fact, we do know that the Bible and other writings was altered and some information was excluded from the Bible. Have you read the lost book on Enoch?
I get the well... were no longer under the law... well.... i believe we are in a time of reckoning... back to Torah as best as we can in each nation where were at.
Torah is God’s law. There are only certain aspects of it that has changed and fulfilled, but in there are principles that are timeless and always be. Therefore, God has always wanted and will want His people subject to His law, period. And yes, we should always seek to please by keeping His law. From nation to nation.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen modern Christianity is against Polygyny and does not observe The Sabbath Friday evening to Saturday evening. I actively promote Polygyny and the importance of observing Sabbath according to God's decree.
You are creating your own rule for marriage not fallowing Gods rules. Deuteronomy 17:17
You are the one actually trying to stretch Deuteronomy 17:17 to fit the idea of prohibiting all men when it is specifically written to kings and not all men as you say, “I’m creating my own rule for marriage.” No, the issue is that you are likely not familiar with this passage and Biblical marriage than you think you are. Kings in those days used marriages, money and horses to fortify their influence and strength, which is why this commandment given. Please read the fuller context (Deuteronomy 17:14-20). God didn’t want them to be like other kings. My question to you is how do you interpret Deuteronomy 17:17 in light of Exodus 21:7-11 and Deuteronomy 21:15-17? Also, why would God command Hagar to go back to her polygynous household in Genesis 16 if He was so against the idea and that I’m just creating my own rule, as you say?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen There is no where in scripture that God blesses polygamy. Matthew 19:4-6 NIV
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen In the end times men will be deceived and lead into sin. You are going to be held responsible for those you lead into sin.
@@ricknelson3607 first of all, Vs 6 of Matt. 19 let’s us know that Jesus was talking about divorce which is about subtracting one’s wife not adding wives which is exactly what polygyny is. Therefore, are you not taking Matt. 19 out of context by inferring polygyny into it?
Secondly, you say that there’s no Scripture that God blessed polygamy, but have you not read?:
•2 Samuel 12:7-8, where God Himself makes it known that “He gave David his multiple wives and if that wasn’t enough, He would have given him more.”
•Genesis 33:1-7, Jacob affirmed that his 4 wives and children “were graciously given to him by God.”
•The elders and people at Bethlehem believed that God the Lord built the house of Israel through Jacob’s wives in Ruth 4:11.
Each of these passages show that God blessed, gave and used polygamy to prosper His people.
@@ricknelson3607 in your implication of polygamy being a sin, what Scriptural proof can you produce that says that it is a sin? And if it is, why would God use it at all for the benefit and His people His people to practice? Why did He use it as a metaphor for His relationship with his people in Jeremiah 3; Matthew 25:1-13?
Genesis 2:24 gives us a picture of the marriage bond before sin entered the world: “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh” (Genesis 2:24, NKJV). “One flesh” echoes the language of the preceding verse when Adam first meets Eve and exclaims, “This one is bone of my bone, and flesh from my flesh!” (Genesis 2:23, NLT).
Thank you for comment! Although I agree with what you say here, I am yet curious as to how would you understand what you’re say in light of the concept of monogamy and polygyny? I’m curious.
Okay but jesus takes the church as his wife in the end their fore they become one flesh with his chosen. This in no way disproves polygamy? Show me where God said not to do it cuz I have not found it. Only scriptures that prove his approval
Bro what city you in
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I have your book already polygamy pages
@@broshahkan5362 thanks Brother! I know you’re already privy to the knowledge within. Nevertheless, I ask that you do share the link. I appreciate you! Many Blessings!
Shalom!
Lets see truth..do you wear mixed fibers & eat shellfish & water animals that dont have scales, do you keep the sabbaths & feast days?
Thank you for such a great question! Let’s say I do indulge in all you ask, how exactly by doing so does that not coincide with nor can be seen as truth?
I believe it’s not GOD perfect will because if you have too many wives your heart will turn away from GOD this is exactly what king Solomon did however I do agree with you it not a sin our GOD is more concerned about our hearts turning away from him
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However, God’s will never aligns with sin, although Solomon’s sin ultimately was not how many women he had but that he married idolatrous women in 1 Kings 11:1-13.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen yes you are correct it not how many women he had that was a sin his women worshiped idols and they turned his heart from away from GOD and that was his sin
@@ambiencemusic376 thanks for your honesty