Why Are Commonwealth Soldiers So DUMB? (Full Analysis)

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    In today's video, I go over 3 potential theories as to why the troopers of the Commonwealth were so dumb. I adapted the theory from a Reddit post (I have unfortunately lost since), and if I find it again, I will make sure to credit them here in the description.
    Thanks so much for watching :)
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  • @ClashedPR
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      @TBCL3cky Před rokem

      I loved it

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    • @laserx430
      @laserx430 Před rokem +1

      Love the vid

  • @anonymistubis
    @anonymistubis Před rokem +1559

    I love how in the comics a soldier would prove that his armour is devour proof by going up to a horde and the armour would ACTUALLY protect him but in the tv show the soldiers would get devoured by zombies easily through their armour 🙄

    • @dessirangelova2676
      @dessirangelova2676 Před rokem +196

      Yeah movies always do stuff like this star wars has the exact same problem with stormtroopers

    • @noahtylerpritchett2682
      @noahtylerpritchett2682 Před rokem +111

      @@dessirangelova2676 stormtroopers are Kickasses in video games.
      They're paper in plot armor scenes

    • @noahtylerpritchett2682
      @noahtylerpritchett2682 Před rokem +30

      @@user-hy5hs2wk2i clone wars is great. Stormtroopers have as much Quality as clone troopers. In comics, books and video games anyway

    • @WallNutBreaker524
      @WallNutBreaker524 Před rokem +3

      ​@@noahtylerpritchett2682 thats what happens to pretty much any minion 🤦‍♂️

    • @thepro3k_watches656
      @thepro3k_watches656 Před rokem +7

      @@dessirangelova2676actually they are really good with there shots, they where order to capture them not kill them

  • @daddyshome275
    @daddyshome275 Před rokem +1473

    "Why commonwealth soldiers are dumb ? "
    Plot needs it .

    • @altheuss
      @altheuss Před rokem +41

      They are NPCs

    • @raypowerfulmc4551
      @raypowerfulmc4551 Před rokem +3

      ​@@altheuss fr

    • @mrhammergaming2052
      @mrhammergaming2052 Před rokem +15

      @@altheuss they are stormtroopers

    • @Nic-og2qq
      @Nic-og2qq Před rokem +4

      Reason I stopped watching after the lab was blown up at the end of season 2. Or season 1? I can't remember

    • @sweatybeanz808
      @sweatybeanz808 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@Nic-og2qq you should watch it all

  • @shanenonwolfe4109
    @shanenonwolfe4109 Před rokem +666

    I wish they showed off how good the armor worked like in the comics where we see one commonwealth soldier walk through a herd with no problem and come out after saving Eugene or someone

    • @keztannis6848
      @keztannis6848 Před rokem +49

      Let's be honest, they won't. They'll be like the Stormtroopers where they're only really badass in the comics and and only becomes competent in the show if the plot demands it.

    • @TheMattsem
      @TheMattsem Před rokem +5

      Still I don't think it has a place in a zombie apocalypse world look at it look like it come from Star Wars or Star Trek

    • @Trace240
      @Trace240 Před rokem

      Plate Armor Mobility
      czcams.com/video/qzTwBQniLSc/video.html

  • @MASTEROFEVIL
    @MASTEROFEVIL Před rokem +231

    In the comics they were actually more intimidating. But in this show they're basically stormtroopers

    • @SpartanJoe193
      @SpartanJoe193 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Agreed

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia Před 3 měsíci +9

      Exactly! They're Stormtrooper knock-offs, both appearance wise and personality wise.

    • @Gabiman66
      @Gabiman66 Před měsícem +4

      Hell no stormtroopers are competent in star wars, we see them win multiple battles and kill enemies, unlike these guys

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia Před měsícem

      @@Gabiman66
      If we're talking comparisons, yes.

  • @Qwty163
    @Qwty163 Před rokem +989

    In my opinion, The Walking Dead's Commonwealth soldiers could have been more interesting if they were divided into different tiers, such as red, yellow, and white soldiers. For instance, the red tier could feature a character like Mercer, while the yellow tier could include skilled survivors and ex-military personnel, alike to the Reapers but with slightly less skill. Finally, the white tier could consist of beginners. This approach could have made the Commonwealth soldiers more dynamic. Just imagine a scene where the IQ and teamwork of the yellows are on full display, giving our protagonists a hard time, followed by another scene where the whites are easily defeated by the group.

    • @proceedproceed7494
      @proceedproceed7494 Před rokem +17

      would yellow be obvious in a firefight

    • @nikoscott145
      @nikoscott145 Před rokem +88

      @@proceedproceed7494 Well they're already wearing white

    • @griddenheimer
      @griddenheimer Před rokem +16

      @@proceedproceed7494 scavengers have almost ran out of ammo so idk who’d be shooting at them and they’re literally coloured bright red and white

    • @brianachim2670
      @brianachim2670 Před rokem +19

      How about a mostly black Commonwealth armor? That’d look sick.

    • @Wall57k
      @Wall57k Před rokem +5

      why does this say 15 yrs ago?

  • @KatiesNippleTardis
    @KatiesNippleTardis Před rokem +306

    4. Never encountered walkers
    That’s what I felt when watching the commonwealth soldiers like they’d been living under a rock and hadn’t actually encountered walkers much like the prisoners in the prison arc

    • @gametvon98
      @gametvon98 Před rokem +4

      bruh they have encounter just watch the video again

    • @nfkhalifa7896
      @nfkhalifa7896 Před rokem +14

      ​@@gametvon98 read the comment again

    • @theboy6888
      @theboy6888 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Right, they’ve never had to deal with hordes because of their security precautions. They’ve only killed walkers in small groups.

    • @regslime2411
      @regslime2411 Před 10 měsíci +4

      I bet they dont even have a shooting range for the soldiers. Thats why their aim is shit. I feel like the reason is because they're just handed a gun after knife fighting walkers immediaty after they do that

    • @Mad_Skeletron
      @Mad_Skeletron Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@regslime2411 they also don't have unlimited ammo, so they can't waste bullets for training

  • @mr.e2239
    @mr.e2239 Před 11 měsíci +74

    Honestly I will never understand why people don't use ARMOR against zombies or why writers act like it won't be effective. It's not like these zombies are carrying guns or even basic melee weapons, their only weapons are decaying teeth and finger nails. Hell even makeshift armor made out of cardboard and plastic would be effective.

    • @therealgreg5653
      @therealgreg5653 Před 2 měsíci +8

      There is a new anime where a guy gets a special diving suit for shark tanks that is "bite proof" actually works haha

  • @maskedninja6883
    @maskedninja6883 Před rokem +157

    I find it sad that the survivors can take down a militarized force

    • @SwedishEmpire1700
      @SwedishEmpire1700 Před 11 měsíci +18

      The Woke Force gotta survive ya know

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 Před 9 měsíci

      @@SwedishEmpire1700 God, shut up.

    • @giftzwerg7345
      @giftzwerg7345 Před 2 měsíci +4

      yea especialy head on, like its fine if they outsmart them on a bigger scale, but the fact that they can take them head on out numbered and out gunned just makes it meaning less

  • @Dan_Edittz
    @Dan_Edittz Před rokem +419

    dumber than Commonwealth soldiers were the Terminus cannibals, the guys didn't even check their tasty Bob's leg, or even Carl in season 8 who instead of at least giving a dignified death Worthy for him they caused him to be bitten in such a silly way and in the fourth season he was cornered by 4 Walkers and was not injured💀

    • @MyBrainGlows
      @MyBrainGlows Před rokem +13

      to be fair. This shows have to be set in another universe where people are not able to slowly walk away from a even slower walking enemy with an exposed and esay to eliminate weak spot.

    • @thepro3k_watches656
      @thepro3k_watches656 Před rokem

      To be fair the director at the time when the actor for Carl was playing, he didn’t like the actor and wanted a way to get rid of him quickly

    • @bryanemilius1606
      @bryanemilius1606 Před rokem

      Really? What an ass!

    • @joserios4409
      @joserios4409 Před rokem +5

      ​@@thepro3k_watches656 A director getting rid of an actor just because he didn't like him just makes the show even more terrible.

    • @dakotaheeren7468
      @dakotaheeren7468 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@thepro3k_watches656 so he resorts to a cop out excuse? bad writing and a bad director. plenty of ways it could have been handled better.

  • @The.Frenchie
    @The.Frenchie Před rokem +969

    But at least they know how to shoot unlike Stormtroopers

    • @furiouspheonix2019
      @furiouspheonix2019 Před rokem +22

      Yeah so true 😂

    • @BlastingXNP
      @BlastingXNP Před rokem +123

      Disagree. The amount of times they would shoot at the main cast and miss every single shot was staggering.

    • @XotiicYBA
      @XotiicYBA Před rokem +48

      @@BlastingXNP plot armor

    • @daddyshome275
      @daddyshome275 Před rokem +3

      That's so true actually.

    • @savageaches4519
      @savageaches4519 Před rokem +5

      I mean probably cuz of ptsd/trauma/getting distracted
      The armor weighing them down
      Probably the commonwealth soldiers just messing around things they can not take it seriously cuz they be wearing armor when in reality should be more attentive and not underestimate the situation

  • @xxxx5872
    @xxxx5872 Před rokem +310

    the commonwealth was so goofy 😭. i honestly would’ve preferred if they just went full crm or variant walkers for the villains of the season

    • @danielcarithers3345
      @danielcarithers3345 Před rokem +113

      Nah that’s crazy. They’d never make the zombies the main threat of this zombie show.

    • @xxxx5872
      @xxxx5872 Před rokem +15

      @@danielcarithers3345 lmao

    • @ClashedPR
      @ClashedPR  Před rokem +18

      @@danielcarithers3345 😂❤

    • @perkshaven
      @perkshaven Před rokem +16

      @@danielcarithers3345 bruh i swear if it was up to yall TWD would literally just be 11 seasons of the protagonists fighting Walkers. nothing else, no human antagonists or anything

    • @danielcarithers3345
      @danielcarithers3345 Před rokem +23

      @@perkshaven Well then don’t make it a fucking zombie show then if the zombies are nothing more than overgrown mosquitoes that the main characters never have to worry about.

  • @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce

    The goggles do not destroy your peripheral vision as much as you think.
    Armor is a good idea, but they went full Stormtrooper mode instead of properly designing it.

    • @huntclanhunt9697
      @huntclanhunt9697 Před rokem +26

      Stormtrooper armor is great... Or was until Disney took over.
      Pre Disney the comics and books stated most Stormtroopers who get hit are wounded, not killed.

    • @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce
      @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce Před rokem +14

      @@huntclanhunt9697 That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the fact that the armor is just a bunch of loose plastic plates instead of plenty flexible slash and stabproof materials. The armor does nothing because zombies just keep biting the neck and joints.
      Even if they were wearing actual lore correct Stormtrooper armor, we'd have to just assume that the black basesuits can resist cuts and punctures.

    • @manjoring5944
      @manjoring5944 Před rokem +9

      ​@@TerranPlanetaryDefenseForceback the gambeson and chainmail medieval drip

    • @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce
      @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce Před rokem +2

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    • @coryfice1881
      @coryfice1881 Před rokem +4

      @@huntclanhunt9697
      "Stormtrooper armor is great"
      Literally cracks apart the moment a small rock hits them

  • @BlockImmigrants
    @BlockImmigrants Před rokem +131

    It’s the plot armor mostly
    They perform well against non-important characters and perform badly against important characters because the main characters need to be on the show further on.
    Also since they’re many in quantity, the writing makes them easy to kill.
    That’s my perspective

  • @Trxlyy
    @Trxlyy Před rokem +87

    Commonwealth soldiers in the comics were so much better than the show

    • @perkshaven
      @perkshaven Před rokem +4

      ehhh, they were way more competent and capable in the comics but thats about it

    • @poncho9960
      @poncho9960 Před rokem +43

      @@perkshaven yeah, that's what "better" means

    • @astartesfanboy5294
      @astartesfanboy5294 Před rokem

      @@perkshaven thats better

    • @Varsus_
      @Varsus_ Před rokem

      Yes, but militarily in the series they were better equipped

    • @abdulansari3666
      @abdulansari3666 Před měsícem

      ​@@perkshavenyou in the comments just to argue aint you?

  • @jeroenvanede
    @jeroenvanede Před rokem +47

    I'd rather have plastic armor than no armor vs zombies. But the series has strange power level differance. Some times zombies rip people open as if there made of cake. Sometimes they can't bites because there is tape around a arm.

    • @onewhotalks1943
      @onewhotalks1943 Před 9 měsíci +12

      According to the zombie survival manual zombies are no stronger than the average human the only difference is that unlike humans zombies do not have pain nerve endings. So when a human would be come fatigued or felling hurt enough to force them to stop. A zombie with just continue with out stopping.

    • @digitaal_boog
      @digitaal_boog Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@onewhotalks1943humans have a limiter as well. It’s why under high stress or fear, you could get some skinny kid suddenly be able to lift weights that would impress a bodybuilder. Your muscles are so strong that they will rip themselves apart if the body doesn’t limit them. Walkers wouldn’t have such limiters, which may explain how they are able to bite through thick clothing and flesh easily, overpower a person despite being emaciated and seemingly frail, and how they managed to tear people apart when enough of them get a hold. They’re actually a lot stronger, at least when they have some muscle mass left, and can use all their muscle with no limit.

    • @onewhotalks1943
      @onewhotalks1943 Před 7 měsíci

      @@digitaal_boog The zombie survival guide by mat brooks covers this as well

    • @MASTEROFEVIL
      @MASTEROFEVIL Před 3 měsíci +5

      Remember in season 4 when Glenn wore police riot armor and casually walked through a large group of them?

  • @THEDOYLER
    @THEDOYLER Před rokem +161

    the common wealth made the walking dead feel a bit wonky and made it more of a govenor and a detective show had a kid

    • @ess6608
      @ess6608 Před rokem +10

      Last characters of TWD from TV and comics feels like they're from a comedy show... Princess and these stormtroopers

    • @panspermiapancakes
      @panspermiapancakes Před rokem +6

      @@ess6608 To be fair, it seems like they toned down Princess going into season 11. Her clothes didn't make her stand out anymore, at least not like that pink fur jacket she had at any rate. They seemed to tone down her personality as well and made her slightly more "normal" as a functioning adult. I think they had intended on exploring mental health issues with her as a result of her traumatic past before the outbreak and her isolation during it. They mostly abandoned it though in season 11. She was still quirky, but also seemed more mature. They kind of made her a "voice of reason" in the final season.

    • @sauce8148
      @sauce8148 Před rokem +9

      The show simply died when Rick disappeared...

    • @THEDOYLER
      @THEDOYLER Před rokem +3

      @@sauce8148 thats true when rick left there was a big hole in the middle

  • @mindset2501
    @mindset2501 Před rokem +53

    Wow, I have never noticed that Jake Daniels and Green were those Commonwealth soldiers who were killed by Negan and Elijah.

    • @ClashedPR
      @ClashedPR  Před rokem +2

      Neither did I! It was confirmed on the wiki.

  • @m_rkroblox2888
    @m_rkroblox2888 Před rokem +69

    At least they aren’t stormtrooper stupid, like they actually shoot the zombies.
    sometimes…

  • @TY-PO
    @TY-PO Před rokem +28

    Get ready for a small rant…
    Now, I don’t have much knowledge on the comics, but from what I saw, the Commonwealth were a legitimate threat that needed to be taken seriously. Their armor was very protective (they even criticized the crotch armor at one point). On top of that, they were functional soldiers that could be taken down without resorting to too much plot armor. What happened in the show?!

  • @SobaOfPulaski
    @SobaOfPulaski Před rokem +31

    In the comics a grand majority of them were active-duty and reservists as well as National Guard pre-apocalypse along with veterans. I think there are probably some veterans and soldiers, marines, airmen, and sailors who joined up post-apocalypse, but I doubt it would be too much as a grand majority of them died at the start and most units ended up sticking together as evidenced in Season 3, rather than joining any larger groups.

    • @MASTEROFEVIL
      @MASTEROFEVIL Před 3 měsíci

      Are you talking about those army guys the governor killed?

    • @SobaOfPulaski
      @SobaOfPulaski Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@MASTEROFEVIL Yeah, the Georgia Army National Guard unit. Also, Robert Kirkman generally speaking is quite anti-military and it was one of the reasons why the military is portrayed as so incompetent [also because if they were, there would be no show].

    • @aarons0z992
      @aarons0z992 Před měsícem

      @@SobaOfPulaski he could at least try to explain it a little better than just "plot"

    • @SobaOfPulaski
      @SobaOfPulaski Před měsícem

      @@aarons0z992 I do not disagree in the slightest there 😔

    • @aarons0z992
      @aarons0z992 Před měsícem +1

      @@SobaOfPulaski like the TOWL plot about operation cobalt being so difficult because of the fact that the national guard and army both had conflicting orders and generally coordination being a mess was a pretty good reason for their failure

  • @sagastudioss
    @sagastudioss Před rokem +69

    this is probably my favourite vid from you, you can really see the effort thats been put into your videos in the past couple months and your already at 1 mill congrats

  • @rency1803
    @rency1803 Před rokem +15

    In the comic you have one soldier proving their armor is biteproof by walking into a group of zombie. Also just from the look we can already tell that the armor doesnt have any exposed part that let them get bitten easily. They just die cause plot need them to.

  • @parkeranimations3671
    @parkeranimations3671 Před rokem +44

    Loved how you put Scott gimpe as a threat

  • @overlord1676
    @overlord1676 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I think that resistant boots for crawling zombies, bracers for emergency situations and a miner helmet as a precaution for falling debris and flashlight holder would be all you need as armor against the zombies. Bare minimum protection for unexpected situations and accidents but also full mobility to escape

  • @ryanelliott71698
    @ryanelliott71698 Před rokem +21

    There was plot armour in prior seasons, but the plot armour among the Commonwealth soldiers was bs. I just couldn’t take them as a threat

  • @saltytexasranger6301
    @saltytexasranger6301 Před rokem +38

    I personally had a serious problem with how both the Commonwealth stormtroopers and the Alexandria survivors kept using full auto against the walkers...

    • @Skeene60
      @Skeene60 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Same. I’m rewatching it, constantly saying “switch that shit to semi & put down accurate shots. It’s not hard, no wonder there’s barely ammo left”

    • @weeblordgaming6062
      @weeblordgaming6062 Před měsícem

      @@Skeene60they shouldn’t run out of ammo given that they are in America

  • @huntclanhunt9697
    @huntclanhunt9697 Před rokem +4

    I've worn a helmet with goggles not too dissimilar in shape to their for airsoft.
    It really doesn't limit your vision much unless the goggles fog over.

  • @bearmusic4986
    @bearmusic4986 Před rokem +10

    7:40, to be fair it's a totally different scenario when your shooting at someone unarmed vs someone shooting back. Given that the soldiers never fought anything but walkers the stress lvl of being shot at in plastic body armor would overwhelm their senses causing them to point and shoot instead of aim.

  • @elliottgaal9774
    @elliottgaal9774 Před rokem +8

    What a way to make a fearsome adversary into a comical level enemies.
    Their armor is actually good in the comics anyway.
    Polymer armor is lightweight (when compared to kevlar and trauma plates) and the goggles don't really obstruct as much you would think.
    They're like ski goggles.
    I would prefer to be in the armor personally as it means should I get swarmed, the zombies cannot get to me as easily.
    Thus increasing the time for my squad to save me.

  • @stevengroeneveld7406
    @stevengroeneveld7406 Před rokem +14

    What I wonder most about is the distance between the Commonwealth and places like Alexandria and Oceanside. I mean they have been at Alexandria for a long time, how tf did they never see any troopers or hell, a city with walls and 50.000 people😂😂

    • @shanenonwolfe4109
      @shanenonwolfe4109 Před rokem

      Well our characters are in Virginia, specifically the Washington DC area and according to the show and comics the commonwealth looks like they are some where in eastern Ohio. So they are like around 300 miles away from one and another. And since cars aren’t really around anymore walking or going by horse would take a week or two of traveling

    • @stevengroeneveld7406
      @stevengroeneveld7406 Před rokem

      @@shanenonwolfe4109 ahhh ok makes more sense now. They travelled quite a lot then, knowing they started in Atlanta

  • @BHendrikx
    @BHendrikx Před 10 měsíci +4

    Lance Hornsby said most of the soldiers were just “kids in their twenties”

  • @gamer0066
    @gamer0066 Před rokem +1

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    you're definitely my favourite youtuber at first I only watched your shorts but ever since I've discovered your videos I can't wait for new releases and also,
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  • @Hurricanelive
    @Hurricanelive Před rokem +14

    When a group is expendable it makes you not care about them, and there are no stakes. It's like GIjoe killing a bunch of robots, or in Star Wars killing a bunch of robots or killing a bunch of faceless storm troopers. It's merely the writing trope of faceless expendable minions to make another group look more powerful. It's the stormtrooper and red shirt fallacy, as long as you aren't in combat against plot armor or alone with the main characters you probably aren't in trouble, but heaven help you if you are, then you fall into that tropey memey gunna die zone.

  • @The_Purple_Duck87
    @The_Purple_Duck87 Před rokem +3

    They're exactly like Storm Troopers bright white armor to stand out, when they're facing side characters and non important characters they're killing machines but as soon as plot armor kicks in they start to turn incompetent missing all their shots

  • @Sumschmuck
    @Sumschmuck Před 11 měsíci +4

    Commonwealth soldiers suffer stormtrooper syndrome, needing to be a threatening army in the plot, but also being useless enough to ensure that the main characters don't get gunned down or tossed in a concentration camp by act 2

  • @Mr-dw5zq
    @Mr-dw5zq Před rokem +3

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  • @NilsNone
    @NilsNone Před rokem +8

    all gunbattles in TWD are kinda plotarmor heavy. even back in the prison they were landing headshot after headshot with guns that had makeshift silencers but when it comes to shoot at people suddenly they are the stromtroopers trying to shoot at Lea and Luke.... it has always been something I felt was offputting

  • @deltasrage97yt
    @deltasrage97yt Před měsícem +3

    The Commonwealth Stupidity Level: 40,000% Genius Level: 0%

  • @m_rkroblox2888
    @m_rkroblox2888 Před rokem +9

    Tbh there was some bad writing, for example: when we see Magie and that small group meet the reapers, negan gets shot in the leg and never says or does anything about it. He doesn’t even limp or anything. So ye there was some bad writing.

    • @perkshaven
      @perkshaven Před rokem +1

      that part where Negan gets shot in the foot doesn't count as bad writing cuz he gets shot up at his leg.but then pulls out the arrow, and then we dont see him for a bit after that.

  • @bendynamic2150
    @bendynamic2150 Před rokem +4

    From what I remember the armor is good unless the plot and moment in the story says it's trash. It's a mix of Bad writing and maybe Outdated Training. Bad Writing is the biggest.

  • @yellowsausage7714
    @yellowsausage7714 Před rokem +2

    They have to be, this show is a joke, it should be called The Walking Plot Armor. They have characters explaining their plan to the bad guys... man

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    @sheeshsheesh5439 Před rokem +1

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  • @crimsonshadow1649
    @crimsonshadow1649 Před 9 měsíci +2

    The scene where Carol and Darul were escaping with Hornsby in tow and the soldiers were shooting at them in a Corridor yet still somehow missed every damn shot had me LOLing so hard.

  • @amytapess
    @amytapess Před rokem +9

    I remember I continued watching the show a little after season 9 came out, the only text I got was “since when did stormtroopers get added in?”

  • @maxwellquipey2716
    @maxwellquipey2716 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Funny fact: In the letter hacks that are shown at the end of each issue of the comic, in #174, the issue before the New World Order arc which formally introduced the commonwealth, the last letterer called the gaurds stormtrooperz based on the cover for #175, and the fact they have terrible aim in the show 💀💀💀

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  • @nickholas2233
    @nickholas2233 Před rokem +9

    Interesting that you just made this video right when I'm struggling to finish season 11. Been watching one episode every week and a half or so, a lot a things seem a bit ridiculous and you already pointed out a problem I've been having. The main characters emit an aura of stupidity and anyone against them is caught in it. Doesn't really feel like there are any stakes.

    • @ClashedPR
      @ClashedPR  Před rokem +2

      Exactly. The cast became so big yet the stakes become less higher. Really disappointing from Angela Kang to do that.

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  • @meliiina_4647
    @meliiina_4647 Před rokem +5

    I somehow noticed that the commonwealth's soldiers look like Star Wars soldiers and I can't unsee it.

  • @greaterhalo0659
    @greaterhalo0659 Před rokem +7

    Commonwealth soldier's in the comic's we're far superior to there TV portrayal.

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    @karlonka7455 Před rokem

    It’s amazing how "Hearts still beating" has become an integral part of every TWD video, love it

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    @colmgoulding Před rokem

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    @andgeekin Před rokem

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  • @choco.munchiez
    @choco.munchiez Před 8 měsíci

    It's funny how their armor practically does absolutely nothing

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    @DaroXs2 Před rokem +1

    CONGRATS ON 1MIL

  • @wondeler322
    @wondeler322 Před rokem +1

    in the scene (the first that we met commonwealth) a soldier ask princess some questions, omg, anyone else noticed that he was a damn NPC, for example:
    Soldier-where are u from
    Princess-where are my friends
    Soldier-how old are you
    Princess didn't answer and the soldier asked a different question

  • @jamesm2078
    @jamesm2078 Před rokem +4

    After thinking they look like stormtroopers and got killed so easily, this video was like hearing myself ramble about them. 😂

  • @anubhavphukan5720
    @anubhavphukan5720 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I haven't even watched the walking dead yet but I can already see from just clips that so many of the characters or people in it lack brain cells. Like I saw a clip of Carl trying to go help someone and Rick holds Carl back and they watch this guy just stand there and shout "STAY AWAY" instead of running away and he just gets eaten alive by walkers. Then I saw when the walkers climbed over the walls of the Commonwealth base and the Commonwealth soldiers are like "OH NO THEY'RE CLIMBING OVER THE WALLS!" Then they proceed to not even try to run away and get themselves killed. I also saw a clip where Nick is walking with a bunch of walkers and this trio come along in a car and start shooting at the walkers. One guy shot at the walkers with a revolver and was more worried about fucking reloading than his own life. He had so much time to get away, a gun AND a car and yet all three of them still got killed. Someone mentioned that the soldiers and many people are dumb because the plot needs it but there's better ways like having characters or soldiers ambushed by walkers that they didn't realise were there rather than the soldiers or characters LITERALLY standing there and its like they're waiting for the walkers to come and kill them.

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 Před rokem +6

    It’s important to remember these guys were more fit for anti-walker operations, not human v human battles. Although I’m hoping they’ll be better prepared against the CRM.

    • @nevyanplamenov5409
      @nevyanplamenov5409 Před rokem +15

      They are bad even against walkers lol. I know it's just dumb writing, in reality they will be a badass military

    • @onewhotalks1943
      @onewhotalks1943 Před 9 měsíci

      You also have to take into account that they do not have the logistical abilities like a conventional army before the walkers roamed the earth.
      In conventional military you go to recruiting stations talk to a recruiter or several and have several appointments fill out paper work. Get a ship date for MEPS Military Entry Processing Station where you fill out more paper work your physical, mental evaluation, finalize and singe your military contract swear your oath and you get shipped out to basic that day or if you are in a delay entry program you wait any where for several months to a year before shipping out to basic training. If you fail at any point in this process you cant be rejected and try again later or you are PDQd perminatly disqualified meaning you can not try to enlist again. Not to mention a huge back ground check and several things you cant join like felonies.
      Basic training for argument sake lets us the USMC basic training which is three months and for non combat marines you got to a month of more advanced military training before you go to you job for school. Combat marines go to their job school like SOI or school of the infantry which is another three months for more advanced infantry training then you go to you duty station. In basic they do even more checks on your back ground and if anything comes up you did not tell them during MEPS you are done no Marines or any other branch for you
      I'm not going into the marine raider force recon as that is a different animal by itself. Are main focus here is what is the bare bones requirements to just get to the fleet as a basically trained marine. I know I am missing many many things here this is just really basic stuff I am covering here.
      Once you get to your first duty station is when you are actually in the USMC the same goes for other branches.
      With the common wealth they do not have the time to do all of what I have talked about above. No time to do a back ground check because the internet is gone and good luck trying to pull court records you just have to take people at their word in not all but most cases. In the beginning when they come to the common wealth they are taken into custody and are hounded with several days of interviews. No mater how well you think you are interviewing someone, people still manage to slip through the cracks.
      When we see Daryl and Rosita in basic training for the common wealth and all of the other recruits is that the numbers that they are replacing because that's how many soldiers died or deserted or injured. We do not now how many of the soldiers die in a month and they need to be replace and unfortunately you are pulling form a large portion of people that are not qualified or up to the task at hand. Murser probably got orders on high we have this many open slots that need to be filled fill them they all "pass". Forcing him to lower the standards. talk to any one in the military and when the standers are lowered quality suffers. I would not want to be Murcer or any of the officers in the commonwealth military from the show because you are given an impossible task with many people who are not qualified to do it and when you fail its all on you because the people on high could never admit that their standards and policies could be wrong.
      When the standards are lowed quality suffers

    • @mote_vengador2832
      @mote_vengador2832 Před 9 měsíci +1

      It's just so silly they made the whispers better than a hole group of survivors some with ex military experience the show it's a shit show at this point negan is keeping it alive and barely btw

    • @outrider425
      @outrider425 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@onewhotalks1943bruh those guys are lacking basic common sense and you don’t need crazy amounts of training to deal with braindead corpses one can easily outwalk

  • @liamphibia
    @liamphibia Před 3 měsíci +1

    You must admit though that they absolutely NAILED Mercer from top to bottom. Dude look like he came RIGHT out of the comic book.

  • @UMCorian
    @UMCorian Před 8 měsíci +1

    I am all about the Stormtrooper outfits - kind of amazed it took people *this* long to design "Walker Combat Armor". You see people 12 years into the apocalypse fighting in short sleeve shirts FFS. These Stormtrooper outfits just needed a few tweaks. First: Helmets are bad, your best weapon for offense and defense vs walkers is keen hearing and full visual perception (video touches on this - it's not that they're stupid, it's they can't hear or see anything in those). The walker you can see and hear is not a significant threat - it's the walker you can't that gets you every time. Clear or 1-sided Face shields and open ear head-gear is the way to go. Second: Surprising lack of variations - the Stormtrooper outfit (minus the helmet) is great for small, surgical operations that won't last long against a small to medium amount of dead - like raiding an infested building for supplies. For guard duty in relative safe zones, you'd want about half that armor covering key vital areas - but designed not to be cumbersome so it can be worn in heat for hours on end. Armpits, thighs and parts of the core unprotected for maximum heat loss. Hordes, you want to sacrifice even more protection - if you're in melee vs. a Horde, the only thing that'll keep you alive is being fast, quick on your feet to avoid being flanked and not tired. The armor fails at all of those. I'd just keep modified headgear, neck coverage, shoulder coverage and one arm covered (so you have the option to shove it into a zombie's mouth while you deal with it or another - similiar to padding used to fight of/train attack dogs). So, having the full stormtrooper set have velco components to allow easy stripping of key areas would make it much better.
    Some things it does right: White. This is a Walker Combat Suit. You want to be very visible to non-walkers so you don't get shot. The material - polymer is perfect - it's light, cheap, easy to create and will stop human bites and claws. That's what it's designed to do - anything more than that is pointless. If you need to defense vs. weapons, you're no longer fighting the dead and there should be a whole new outfit designed with that agenda in mind.
    And holy hell this got long. I promise I have a life.

  • @chrisbelit1599
    @chrisbelit1599 Před 11 měsíci +1

    god season 1-6 was such peak i miss it. especially season 1’s and 2’s writer 😩

  • @MakiMadara
    @MakiMadara Před rokem

    Congrats on 1mill!!!

  • @MangosCinema
    @MangosCinema Před rokem +1

    Congrats on 1M bro

  • @demian_csomic_winters9484

    One idea for the episode was that they show both competence and incompetent soldiers, competent ones are actually trained for threats such as people that were accurate at shoot escapees, but show these competent soldiers maybe slightly different uniforms, was killed in a reasonable way for story, leaving the incompetent soldiers that missed everything for two minutes, the incompetent are basically just normal people not bothered to really to be trained, while competent ones actually knows what to do, for room clearing a few zombies seems fine for incompetent soldiers while competent ones handles other things such as hoards and other not so simple threats as walkers in smaller rooms.

  • @melonam
    @melonam Před rokem +1

    it's the storm trooper argument all over again, they wear tons of armor it means they have limited sight lines, they get exhausted more quickly, and also you have you realize their training is quite limited from what we saw in this season

  • @atlg9949
    @atlg9949 Před 8 měsíci

    When I first saw them in the series, "Stormtroopers" came into my mind immediatly by how they looked.
    Well, wasn't expecting to see they were actually as dumb as a stormtrooper...

  • @yeetingmobs1884
    @yeetingmobs1884 Před měsícem +1

    bruh they got their armour from a starwars paintball arena and their goggles from a scuba diving centre and their scopes on their guns from wish

  • @logan-vq3dm
    @logan-vq3dm Před rokem

    well i feel like the armor makes sense since we have scene armor does protect you from walkers, like riot gear will protect you from them and the armor they have will protect them from bites but wont stop them from being ripped apart in a horde

  • @digitaal_boog
    @digitaal_boog Před 7 měsíci

    The commonwealth soldiers having poor or great aim could be explained by experience. New guys or those with little time actually fighting will be inaccurate and ineffective. Less green soldiers may have taught themselves to fight. They’re also shown to be training people, some may have owned firearms before the outbreak, been soldiers, police, or may have been surviving on the road before being recruited

  • @cobraazazrl6422
    @cobraazazrl6422 Před 9 měsíci

    They are literally the walking dead version of stormtroopers 💀

  • @rickmanhunter7835
    @rickmanhunter7835 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Imagine if the Whisperers were within the horde that attacked the Commonwealth, They could've easily distablize and destroyed the whole community in one night, Considering commonwealth soldiers got taking out by walkers.

  • @chaoticwj1772
    @chaoticwj1772 Před rokem +2

    Can you compare the Commonwealth armor to the armor/uniform used by the CRM?

  • @tisbutascratch9987
    @tisbutascratch9987 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Honestly this is just the typical flaws of bad writing of this show

  • @Homophobic_racist_sexist

    Ain't no way these guys were the final villians army

  • @I.Am.Legally.theLORAX

    I love ur content soooo much thanks for lighting up my day dude

  • @smirkyshadow4152
    @smirkyshadow4152 Před 11 měsíci

    My only issue was the armor bit
    Armor actually doesn't really slow you down
    Medieval knight armor doesn't even slow you down at all, people can still do fucking summer saults and flips in those. As long as the weight is evenly distributed in a balanced manner it wont hinder you at all

  • @Peto_IL_DUCA03
    @Peto_IL_DUCA03 Před 9 měsíci

    whats the song at the end of the video? i remember hearing it in a twd finale episode

  • @TheRealRickGrimes
    @TheRealRickGrimes Před rokem +3

    0:45 Look at this man trying to make money💀

  • @lukasmaxa8700
    @lukasmaxa8700 Před rokem

    one thing i can say from experience in airsoft when we shot a target moving in a straight line we hit all the time but if he target is armed you naturaly try to dodge the bullets ant take cover wich trow off youre aim so this is excuse to eliminate bad writing but that is just how i see it

  • @adrianacevedocortes71
    @adrianacevedocortes71 Před rokem +1

    although you can argue about the improper armor and bad trainning, humans aren't just that stupid and helpless. I would attribute it mostly to bad writting, it is obvious that these are the WD version of stormtroopers.
    It also strange that they really prefer the big cutting knife bellow the gun instead of a bayonet which tend to be longer, better suited to stab a zombie with enough distance and also more usefull when removed as a one handed weapon.
    About the armor, well, it is actually a very good idea to have armored soldiers against zombies, even more so if they are the protectors of the comunity. But it just has too many gaps where a zombie could bite them to be considered a good armor, i guess at least it protects some of the more often part of the body to be bitten.
    common sense armors would be in fact more simillar to medieval armor (and i'm not refering to the full armored knights). A thick gambeson, with the dissadvantage of being too bulky and warm, but be made of natural fibers that you could make within the comunity. Or second and a little bit more complex is chain mail, being practically invulnerable to zombie bites wherever the mail is covering, but it comes to the cost of being heavier.
    Anyways, they are badly written as any other cartoon goons.

  • @alexandertodorov6373
    @alexandertodorov6373 Před 8 měsíci

    Remember Star Wars? They just took the stormtroopers😅.
    I absolutely loved season 11(actually the whole universe). It was a little strange at times, but...😊

  • @alexanderdixon8217
    @alexanderdixon8217 Před rokem

    Congratulations on 1 million 🎉

  • @cristiancontreras4001
    @cristiancontreras4001 Před rokem +2

    Nice analysis video! Instead of completly shitting on the show, like most do, you made a well explained video on the Commonwealth Soldiers. As a comic reader, while I loved seeing them in live action, everything you mentioned does make sense as to why they were so "dumb". Nice job!

  • @ReinEngel
    @ReinEngel Před 4 měsíci

    3:59 I see what you did there (twice) and I love it.

  • @sui1162
    @sui1162 Před rokem +2

    Anyone can be a marksman until the target starts shooting back. If you watch combat videos you can clearly see that both sides are going to always be firing off hundreds of rounds at eachother and not hitting anything at all. Now add "soldiers" with automatic weapons and little training while under pressure and youre going to get a whole lot of missed shots. Our main cast is battle hardened, they can hit shots under pressure after all theyve been through. I think the armour is fine, it works for what they needed it to work for and I think the show just did a really bad job at showcasing how effective it is against walkers, so blame that on bad writing. Personally I like to think that the commonwealths military recieved better training under Ezekiel and Mercer once they were put in charge, and that the commonwealth military actaully stands a chance against the CRM. Finally Imma say this, automatic weapons are fun to shoot, but they suck in actual combat situations with the exception of when you need suppressing fire. Its just a waste of bullets and makes hitting your shots nearly impossible.

  • @kevinsmail3701
    @kevinsmail3701 Před 2 měsíci

    I mean, I'd chalk the storm trooper aim up to them not maintaining a steady firing position. Easy to hit something when your standing still, instead of constantly having to adjust for your own movement. You can see their barrels swinging from side to side as they advance and fire. Slow and steady, they could've wiped out Daryl and Carol.
    So, improper training, mixed with the COD idea of run and gun.

  • @legotwdrickgrimes
    @legotwdrickgrimes Před 2 měsíci

    Got to say that the commonwealth soilders have stormtroopers metabolism means there aways going to miss unless you're up close with them.
    FYI I do lego walking dead parts of the show so if u want to be part of the cast u can

  • @random_evo_guy9120
    @random_evo_guy9120 Před rokem

    There a line from the channel Oversimplified that best describes the commonwealth soldiers camo, "spot the hidden soldier"

  • @funkyreapercat5280
    @funkyreapercat5280 Před rokem +3

    Can you talk about Telltale TWD games someday? Please

  • @Joaosantos22114
    @Joaosantos22114 Před 2 měsíci

    Situational awareness is probably garbage: they're using balaclavas, motorcycle goggles and some sort of adapted construction helmet (might be some paintball shit as they mentioned) and the breather. All these aspects are going to heavily influence your peripheral vision and hearing, no wonder that they can't see a threat coming from close by (for instance, advanced combat helmets allow you to hear since they don't block your ears at all). Also, not only are bright colors a big disadvantage (this factor was actually adapted well in games like xenonauts where your soldiers wear bright color equipment for reasons like aliens seeing different spectrums of color and the fact that there are pretty much 0 enemy human factions, meaning you're expecting to fight other humans any time soon), but also the sound that walking around in a poorly fighting plastic body suit would make, it would just attract so much attention.
    I also like the fact that they carry butt packs, holsters and knife sheaths but I don't see a single ammunition holster on a convenient location. Their chest plate is legit capable of being used like a plate carrier but they don't, so you would end up becoming a lot more exposed if you ran out of ammo, as you'd probably have to reach out for your pack for a fresh magazine. Lastly, I don't think the outfits are bulky at all since that plastic would mostly be really light, but the sheer amount of clothing you're wearing, you're covering all of your skin (no entry points for air) the added pressure from the plastic armor would basically turn you into a walking greenhouse (yes, I understand that the white armor would probably not accumulate as much heat since it would reflect more sunlight but it is still quite a lot of stuff being worn), you would become fatigued and dehidrated much faster, which could explain why commonwealth soldiers refrain from exerting too much energy.
    I could go on about individual kit and how theirs makes practically zero sense but the point is there

  • @roi6075
    @roi6075 Před rokem

    Very well explained, I agree with you with everything, seasons 1-8 are just something different than 9-11