How Negan Killed & Saved The Walking Dead
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The introduction of Negan was the largest moment in the entirety of The Walking Dead, however, the show hit a major and never recovered again. In todays video I go in-depth on why this "fall off" happened and how Negan was the best thing to happen to the show.
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I feel like Villains don’t always have to die, Negan definitely proves that
He was more of an anti-hero
@@geniusmp43 ohhh he was definitely a villain when we first saw him. Now he's turned into anti hero
@@shubhroy7960Naw he’s not an Anti-hero he just corrects people with bad rat tails
It already proves long ago . There is something called "Redemption arc" or "Character development" 😂 Negan doesn't start sh*t
Yeah they actually die too often
The writers keeping Negan alive is what saved s10-11 for me. His redemption arc & interactions with Maggie were what kept the show somewhat interesting during those seasons.
He doesn't die in the comics
Same
Him and his arc is what killed the show for me and for most of the fan base. The show was the most popular show on tv before Negan, by the time his arc ended nobody was watching.
@@rayleigh8dude they dont do 4-5 more seasons when nobody watching haha cut the crap my dude 😅
@@kjellandersson4416 which is a surprise because most ex-fans like me were asking themselves, that show still on, when we found out that it was still on. Show went from the most popular tv show in the country to one of the least watched, all because of one character and his arc. Negan destroyed the show.
Negan Carried the last few seasons
Daryl too
La 9 et la 10 oui!
Il est ennuyeux dans la 11
Yeah but the problem is that season 10 and 11 were not as good as s1 to s6. Surely he had a great evolution but I think he was just unlucky of being in the "worst" Twd seasons ( I refer to s10 and s11).
Negan(not only him tho) definitely killed the show, how it was. But he was one of the best characters in the show it became. I still prefer the „old“ walking dead, but the new one is also good and better than I expected.
Agreed 👍
Honestly I’m so thankful someone has expressed nearly perfectly exactly how I feel about twd, it’s so annoying seeing the generic NPC people saying constantly “this show died with Glenn” when quite literally the show was still insanely good after.
🔥💯
Can't blame them. There's always the main character, and then there's YOUR main character. For some people it was Glenn. I don't think I would watch any further if either of Daryl or Carol died, because they were my favourite from the start.
Well not insanely good right after, it took a few years.
Exactly ''i never left still my favorite show today can't wait for the spinoffs
@@shubhroy7960 My main character was Negan so that made the watching experience very fun Season 8 onwards
Crazy to think Negan had such a huge affect in twd and tbh him and daryl were the only reason i stayed till the end
You really forgetting why Rick killed them because negan group bikers stopped Abraham, Sasha and Daryl and almost killed them and then got sploded by Daryl!
Facts, even if the Outpost is deemed as a questionable decision, it definitely wasn’t unprovoked. They tried to take out a group that they knew was a threat to them and their new allies (Hilltop) Trojan horse style (from the inside).
Exactly. And the saviors were 100% gonna kill one of Rick’s people and take over the group’s resources when they inevitably found them anyway
Negan fanboys and the dumb fans who watch this show really act as if Negan was some poor innocent dude trying to survive who had to retaliate; he was gonna attack them no matter what.
@@jjkilhij9531 I don’t know why people were crying over the outpost saviors. It’s literally the same saviors that had pictures of bashed in skulls on the walls of where they sleep…
But our pros also killed/almost killed Negan's people. Yeah saviors are definitely bad but killing innocent people and children was definitely an act of cruelty.
@@tifosi4life children?
Imo what killed/seriously hurt TWD is the huge amount of filler episodes each season. In the earlier seasons it wasn't as bad as the side quest episodes felt new. Each season would have benefitted so much more if it had been 8-10 quality episodes rather than 16+ with all the filler episodes. The Negan war really dragged on too long
^^^^ boomerang storytelling
Just imagine if they did it right, and some negan hater still watch the show, it would be great to see their reaction on "Heres Negan"
I agree. Too much screen time was spent on side characters that I just didn’t care that much about. Too many characters taking screen time away from Rick, Negan, Daryl, Michonne, etc.. 8-10 episode seasons would definitely improve the shows quality overall.
I agree for the most part, but negan wasn't just "a leader looking out for his group". He tortured people, stole people's wifes, killed and terrorized innocent people, etc. He WAS a villain, despite Rick's questionable actions Negan remained being a villain, and that's why his redemption is so compelling. It shows how far a person can get if they can't deal with their loses.
Yep I was with him until he did the stereotypical thing of saying negan wasn't a bad guy when he did some of the worse shit. Remember his people started to fight when they wanted to steal all of Rick's group shit. That was enough to show rick that negans people wasn't exactly innocent.
Lucille’s death really made him broken and unhinged/cold
And in real life, people insulted him and wanted to kill him
Yeah dude it sucks. JDM got wayyy to much hate and still does.
@Blue Bird you should’ve seen the subreddits I was researching for this video. Entire groups of people saying he ruins every show he’s in.
@Blue Bird hes in the boys?
When you’re such an amazing actor that people can’t get over their feels in real life. Damn. People are sick.
@@ClashedPRDamn its like people don't care about negan's backstory how his wife got cancer
To be honest, I couldn't believe it when I found out the Walking Dead City would have Maggie and Negan working together, but apart from that, Negan was one of my absolute FAVS of this show. Comic and show
Rick is the best tv series hero characte ever made '
@@Steger13 Real
@@Steger13 Nah Rick is boring compared to Negan. Rick has always been a self righteous character meanwhile Negan keeps it real and excepts himself for who he is plus he’s hilarious.
@@whoareyou6854 😧😠/j
Yea compared to Negan you are right.
This was such a well put together video. I personally think The Walking Dead has been really consistent and I can understand where people are coming from with Glenn dying and Negan still being alive, but Negan really redeemed himself and the controversial decisions the show made were not enough to make me stop watching the show entirely.
In the politest way possible, and with spoilers, could you explain How Negan redeemed himself?
@@stormbox4286the whole Idea behind Negan's imprisonment is for Rick to make Carl's dream real, where even Negan is a functional member of the community. Negan redeemed himself by accepting that his clownish personality was only a mask to hide the pain of losing his wife. And finally moved on, you can see that he really is not that cocky soab anymore. And actually seems to care about shit. Contrary to popular belief, he cannot redeem himself just by making people trust him, he needed to change.
Well in the book Negan lived the entire time
Glenns death was perfectly fine tbh, I think it was a good idea to kill him off actually, Carl dying was a terrible terrible choice though
bruh hes a sociopath. ya'll are problematic for even thinking he can redeem himself. Its the same as thinking the governor can redeem himself TF?!
I really loved the episode where Daryl was getting tortured by Negan in that cell. It was a great way to establish the saviors more and give some insight to what Dwight went through
dwight sucked negans balls so hard, hated his character
My mom was one of the people who left the show after Negan, but I never did. This year, I made her rewatch the show all the way through, and she admitted that it was good and should’ve stuck to it.
Same happened to my mom, she loved Glenn as a character so much that when he was killed off, she screamed and hated Negan (also quit the show). I then begged her to just watch till season 10 at least, now she enjoys his humor and thinks his character had a huge glow up!
I wondering, why people didnt left the show when Governor killed Andrea or Hershel? Glenn even wasn't perfect, the are alot of major characters that was better that him in my opinion.
@@KeNNyKennyYTGlenn is a fan-favorite character, so yea
You watched the show in a binge format, you didn’t have to experience the long waits fans did, the cliff hangers and expectations, so you’re experiencing the show in a different way than others
100% agreed. I wish I was old enough back then but I was like in 5th grade when Negan was introduced 😂
@@ClashedPRyeah I did a bit of both bingeing and watching it air in later seasons because I was super young as well
i also remember hershels death as a young kid eating breakfast being really annoying because i liked him lol
Negan was the best character for me. His development is 10/10, he kept surprising the audience and his story was never boring. Plus the actor did an AMAZING job!! He carried the show after Rick left.
Negan actually made me want to continue the show, at first because I wanted revenge for Glenn and Abraham, but then, when I started to know the character better I thought: " This dude actually cares about people ." And saw many videos on what makes him a good leader and why he always lead the Saviours, then he got his redemption ark with the whisperers and so on, and just like you said, he became one, if not, my favourite character.
ehhhh he doesn't care about people, he cares about himself and he needs slaves to survive in that apocalypse without doing work
I didn't think i'd ever like the show if negan wasn't dead but suprisingly within just a few seasons I wanted him to be an accepted member of their group.
you have to remember that the reason a lot of people don't like s7/s8 is because they watched them as the episodes were coming out. I watched every episode when it came out and have recently rewatched the whole series on Netflix and s7/s8 are much better when you are binging. Having to wait multiple weeks for the group to fight back along with multiple month breaks in between the mid season and between seasons makes those seasons feel like they took FOREVER. When you are able to watch both seasons in one sitting they are genuinely quite good.
to be clear, rick did not kill "hundreds" of saviors
I always find it funny when ppl say "I stopped watching when negan killed glenn" while simultaneously the other half of ppl say they're still watching because of negan
I give you a lot of credit man, for you still being relatively young your scripting and maturity of relaying it is incredible. Definitely an easy listen and that’s a good thing!
Thanks so much bro
Bro thats so true
That outpost episode had me on the EDGE OF MY SEAT. And how the episode ended with the girl on the radio was crazy.
The ep after that was only good the first time, rewatching it I just couldn't bear to watch it again lol
@@thecasuallife363 I know what u mean lol.👍
@@TM--87which episode was this
@@TM--87 ok ty I haven’t watched season 8 in year or two so I forgot
@@TM--87 It’s in Season 6 and it isn’t called that 💀
i am sorry, but the truth is that after "that scene", twd never recovered and it will never will, millions of people stop watching, and thats facts, its sad but it is the truth.
It’s incredibly sad and incredibly true. The show never recovered just from that episode
Just because a lot of people couldn't handle extreme violence and the death of a beloved character (they're watching the wrong show if that's the case), doesn't mean it was a bad decision. The episode itself is executed brilliantly.
The scene with Glenn’s death completely respawned my interest in the show. The only thing I didn’t like about Glenn dying was the faux death he had just recently had. IMO it is the most effective death in the series and it was a fitting death for an important character like Glenn. The only problem I have with Negan is that the tension between his group and Ricks, as well as others, went on far too long. The show didn’t truly die to me until the Whisperers. I hated their group and the leader was annoying. It just got too boring for me and I was done waiting in boredom for half a season just for one episode every once in a while that made it somewhat worth it.
I LOVED Negan since his first appearance in the S6 finale. I always knew it was going to be Glenn that got the bat, but only because I heard about it from people who had read the comics. The S6 finale cliff hanger made me want to read the comics, so in between seasons I bought all the issues & caught up with the comics. By the time S7E1 premiered the comics were already passed the Whisperer War, so I had a good idea of where the show was heading. It's mildly frustrating seeing the show get so much hate from ex-fans because they all chose to be weenies and stop watching the show following the death of Glenn. All Out War is an amazing segment in the storyline, and then follow that up with the Whisperer War + Negan's character arc and the story holds up as strong as rock. I'm not going to act like the show writers didn't mess up in a lot of areas (the biggest f up being killing off Carl) but I will confidently say that The Walking Dead did not deserve as much backlash and loss of viewership that it received following the premiere of Season 7. So many "fans" couldn't wrap there hand around the symbolism of Glenn's death. He was literally the last bit of morality left in Ricks group, and with Negan's introduction, any lick of morality left died as soon as he stepped out of that RV.
Don't call them "fans" with quotes, man. Those who watched until Season 7 didn't just watch to hate the show right after Glenn's death. People have their favorite characters (by your comment, your favorite is Negan). It happens. TWD is my favorite TV series and I dropped it after Carl died. If you want to blame someone else, blame the writers/directors.
I think the war between Negan and Rick is the best part of the show.
Especially the 3-4 episodes when they attack the prison and Negan meets Gabe in the trailer
It was fun but stretched, it could've been told in one Season
Thank you for giving Season 7 some much deserved love. It has its flaws, particularly with the pacing in the second half, but I've never understood when people say it's one of the worst seasons and that it killed the show. Negan, much like his comic counterpart, was a fantastic, charismatic villain and I loved seeing our protagonists completely defeated at the beginning of the season, only to rise up and defeat the Saviors (temporarily) by the end.
Detractors also like to say that this where most fans stopped watching The Walking Dead, which simply isn't true. While admittedly lower than the previous three seasons, Season 7 still pulled in an average of over 11 million viewers per episode, which is higher than the first three. Season 8 is when the viewership truly began to dip and even that season, for all its flaws, isn't the abomination a lot of people make it out to be. It's usually (but not always) the Glenn fanatics who say that Season 7 ruined the show.
Alright I'll say my piece, I'm not a glenn fan he's actually very overhated, here's my opinion tho -
Recently rewatched the show and got on season 7 episode 4 today, I started the rewatch couple weeks ago, every season has flaws no doubts but the first 5 seasons flaws were very small compared to the really good aspects to them, it's why and many others consider the first 5 peak, season 6 is also really good but has multiple questionable moments, the last episode of season 6, Daryl led a chain reaction that got them all caught my negan, and then the episode later daryl got glenn killed, they made daryl one of the most likable characters up to season 6, very annoying for the finale and to season 7, now the action, we all know the charactes went through so much to get to Alexandria and then they faught the herd, rick became leader, deanna died, and they won, and then not even 6 episodes later, instead of celebrating a new world, negan takes over, not even 6 episodes later, or 7, it was exciting to finally see them just hunt for food without enemies for a change, season 6 episode 10, with rick and daryl looking for food, the jesus introduction episode, was sooo good, anyways so skipping to the negan part, the atmosphere of the show change dramatically, wasn't happy, and there was no suspense, negan took all their guns, rick said he doesn't wanna fight and he was okay with the slave lifestyle, everyone besides a couple characters listened to rick, and then negan half the time keeps teasin rick about being thankful, he talks wayy too much, i loved when the govenor was killing people, my issue isn't dark themes, but rather negan coming so soon, and when he was here, he stayed for 32 literall episodes, ya know how boring that is? and when there's no suspense because we know negan has the numbers, and we didn't see negans origins until season 10, he was just a crazy sociopath with good social skills, sadistic and his followers were delusional, he can be evil, and i actually find him funny, but his reign on the ground was boring and was too one sided, rick teaming up with that garbage gang forgot their name, was so corny, I don't even know whos idea it was to create such a community, and the kingdom was also silly, especially the giant tiger, through out season 7-8 we kept seeing too much new communities introduced suddenly, yet our characters never saw those communities before negan took over, i also thought negans relationship with carl was cringe, how can u kill two group members, laugh about it, enslave the father/leader and then try to bond with the son, when in another scene he almost also killed carl, his close call death was so corny, when he started crying and rick cut him, he would be better off if he was cold like the govenor and didn't care about carl..he also didn't kill anyone relevant after Glenn and abe, how can u takeover for two seasons and not kill anyone we care about after the first episode, it just felt like no progression was made through the show, also you're telling me after season 5 and 6, in 7-8 we still in Alexandria? that got stale quickly, Alexandria was cool in 6 but the negan run made it become stale, when the govenor was a villian, he didn't own the prison or their guns, so it felt like thr group can leave anytime, or even make a deal to leave the prison for hershel, while with negan it was one sided, we know as the audience he would be winning, the way the main characters beat negan were kinda plot armor, all these magic communities coming out of nowhere to help?? Didn't mean to write this long it just happens sometimes in twd threads, im criticing negan and season 7-8, and yea that second episode was so out of place, first episode negan killing main characters, all traumatic ( not for me but still), then the next episode it's about morgon and carol in a kingdom, literally so out of place, i literally quit my rewatch even tho i was enjoying it so much, because season 7 was so boring it was hard, like every season after was worse, i genuinely believe season 7 ruined the show, it was so slow paced, weird writing, s8 was the same thing just part 2, season 9 was also bad except the rick "death" episode, season 10 not much better besides the negan episode, then seaso11 was high quality, couple good episodes but alot of the characters were so boring, it's the atmosphere brother, the vibe of the show, the first 6 seaons just felt special, felt exciting, negan came and it was numb, slow, boring, dead, no suspense no surprises, it's crazy because before negan caught them, the vibe was great, scary, we didn't know what would happen, that's when the show is good, we knew everything when negan took over and made it boring , hopefully this comment made some sense
@@IIIISai Your comment was really difficult to read and comprehend due to the lack of spacing and punctuation.
@@IIIISaishut up
The editing is insane on this video bro and I'm proud you got the sponsorship too and that your computer is working again
Nice vid clashed also I can’t wait to see how they handle Negan in dead city and I NEED Negan and Rick to reunite!
I agree with the video, but i feel like you're sugarcoating Negan. Other than that, the video is completely factual
This is insane dickriding. Anyone who defends Negan’s actions when his people attacked first, enslaved innocent people like the Hilltop, killed teenagers and were savage people who were gonna attack Alexandria anyway are fuckin braindead
Yeah I definitely am, just wanted to get the point across better
No it's not. There weren't "hundreds" of people killed in the satellite outpost. More like 30. It's not factual.
@@ClashedPR Sorry, man. I really like a lot of your videos and shorts, but this thing about hundreds in the satellite outpost is just bs.
No hostility here. Maybe you saw the episodes long ago and didn't sit with a notepad or whatever
@@shubhroy7960 yeah bro, the issue is I’m starting to forget key details of the show and I don’t have time to rewatch it either. I’m going to be referring to episode descriptions whenever referring to details in my future videos now so I won’t make as many mistakes. I’ll improve ❤
Who else thinks Negan is the funniest character in the whole of twd?
Yes he’s the only comedic relief especially during the Angela Kang era. All the other characters’ jokes never landed ☠️
He is the funniest
Me. Fr. Along with Eugene
Abraham still barely edges him out for me in the comedy department
@@dodomcbrande88 Oh yea! I forgot abt Abe!
dang bro, this video was really entertaining, keep making videos like these because they are very fun to watch.
One note though, Rick killed doussins of Saviours in their sleep AFTER Saviour's blocked a road and tried to kill a whole group of Rick's ppl there. I do not think we can expected Civilization like "Oh, then I declare war on your people and who is soldier who is civilian, no sneak attacks everyone ready?" in this post apocalyptic era, especially since about everyone in a group is ready to pick up a knife or gun and fight.
I think the show for causal viewers stopped was how many seasons the show already have. Most shows have 1-5 seasons and it can get repetitive for normal viewers.
My girlfriend and I started watching the entire series again back in august and finally finished it a month or two ago and I absolutely loved the entire thing, very much excited for the new shows.
bro i love these videos you make keep up the great work
Awesome video dude.
You see it exactly the way I do.
It's awesome to see someone do a video on it.
Yes Rick is bad but Negan is not better. Don’t get me wrong I love negans character he’s so complex and Jeffery dean morgan plays him amazingly. But just cuz “Negan only killed two of their people” doesn’t include everyone else he killed or the fact that he pressured all those women into sleeping with him and the fact that he just went around to every community taking “half their shit” Negan does make up for what he did in my opinion. And the way they handled the Maggie and Negan story line in the finale is beautiful.
i never really had a point where i hated negan. the group killed a lot of saviors, the saviors killed some of the group. sure, the saviors were objectively worse than the group, but negan’s humor 100% redeemed him for me
Yo I was getting into the video and it ended! Make more like this! I knew Negan was gonna be my favorite but it sure took a minute.
Dude this video is so refreshing for me to see, you've explained my thoughts about the show perfectly. thank you.
You’ve convinced me. After years I’m gonna return to the show
It gets mid and boring pretty fast
The reason the show died was cause it was hopeless and they turned badasses into literal slaves. Daryl was a badass in s1-s6 and he ate dog food. The reason terminus was such a good episode looking exactly like this one was cause the characters were badass but in s7 there hopeless that's why most people stopped. It wasn't just Glenn's death. Say he died in s6 like it wasn't nick who died but also glenn people still kept watching it was cause of how he got killed
i find it weird some peeps couldnt handle Rick's group losing really badly for once
@@perkshaven imagine let's say the biggest badass who went through battles won many fights gets inslaved by a literal gamer
@@boardasf699 I mean idk what they were meant to do against a group that massively outnumbers them...
@@struan8467 look at terminus. They were hella outnumbered and escaped. Also look at what happened at the prison they were outnumbered and won with no one dying in those
are you 12 years old?
Thank you for you’re amazing content you always brighten my day keep up the great work👍👍
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Great video bro! I love your content! Negan's also my favourite character!
I love season 10 and feel that it is punished for the bonus episodes. Also Negan is my all time favorite character and feel that the blame he gets is for killing Glenn and showing everybody Rick was not invincible
I think after the departure of Rick. Negan and Daryl really were the sole reason I kept watching. Though I wish I could see how Rick would have handled the whisperers.
comics are worth reading, you'll see how (a slightly different) rick deals with the whisperers, and tbh the comics are addicting imo
@@struan8467 yeah, I started reading them, and I'm in the prison arc for now. And I liked the comics' version of the prisoners way more!
Rick and the whisperers is something I’ll always dream about 😢
@@ClashedPR same 😭. I didnt expect to see the legend reply :O
Amazing video bro. Sponsorship on top of that. The script flowed and everything was clear now that's the shit that I need from you
Thanks so much man. Since I’m not monetized I hope I can continue to get sponsors every video so I can pump out content more!!!
Yes the show never died instead it evolved. Season 7 was good and 8 was perfect seeing simon losing his insanity it was enjoying EVERY show has to have it's darkest moments so Negan was. I love Negan and i was sick and tired people saying things about The Show.
I hated negan myself first as well, but I loved his charisma and couldn't help falling for him a little. As I got older, I started seeing things from a bigger overall perspective and this video sums that up perfectly. I always stayed with the show just for him.
People just don't understand, its that you have to watch the show from start to finish to understand the storyline, not watch the show from start to one of their favorite characters dying, I personally disliked a few deaths but watching the storyline shows how certain characters can change and redeem themselves, The Walking Dead is my #1 favorite show due to the fact that, that it has likeable characters and hype.
Best Seasons:
1. Season Four (Best Episode: Too Far Gone) 10/10
2. Season Five (Best Episode: No Sanctuary) 9.9/10
3. Season Six (Best Episode: No Way Out) 9.8/10
4. Season Three (Best Episode: Killer Within) 9.7/10
5. Season Nine (Best Episode: The Calm Before) 9.6/10
6. Season Ten (Best Episode: Here’s Negan) 9.5/10
7. Season One (Best Episode: Days Gone Bye) 9.4/10
8. Season Two (Best Episode: Beside The Dying Fire) 9.3/10
9. Season Seven (Best Episode: The Day Will Come When You Won’t Be) 9.2/10
10. Season Eleven (Best Episode: No Other Way) 8.7/10
11. Season Eight (Best Episode: The Key) 8/10
I thought the show would die for me when Carl and Rick were gone. But every single time he’s on screen, Negan pulls me in. The fact he’s grown so much, but is still the same. His personality is my favorite. Daryl is my favorite altogether.
Negan(Jeffrey) is the only reason I started watching walking Dead... He is the most badass villain I've ever seen. And TWD fans just couldn't take it how brutal he was and charisma of other characters was overtaken by negan that's why TWD fans stopped watching it. And started saying that they hate negan , the thing is he was meant to be hated. Just last thing I'm going to say -“Pissing our pants yet?”
The brilliance of TWD is that everyone is a villian in someone else's story. If we followed Negan and the Saviors the whole time, Rick would be the most evil character in the show. Same with the Commonwealth.
At least someone finally said it it's so true just like you said if it was negan we were watching the whole show instead of Rick we would be vouching for negan and not Rick but crazy that people don't think about the other standpoint of the story
Half true. Yes, Rick would've been the big bad attacking them.. but Rick still wouldn't be more evil than Negan. Negan would've never been a protagonist like Rick. Rick never forced woman to marry him, raped woman, punished with extreme measures - sometimes over awful or false reasons.
nope, rick and guys wouldn't look like the villians, negan was literally a bad person why do we have to spell it out for u
Well made video resonated alot. Liked & Subbed!
Rick and Carl ruined the show
Negan killing Glenn is a canon event which had to be happened. It's in the comic and an iconic turning point moment. But Carl's death and Rick's dissapearance is the thing. It was all of a sudden and the showrunners didn't expect that for sure. I don't know what is the reason of these things happened but that's the key. It's obvious the scenario was different and it was based on Rick and Carl for sure and the canon comic scenario. Also Daryl and Carol lines are pretty weak, they're kinda contraversal over the series and are not at the level of Negan or Rick developement. I like Norman Reedus a lot but even Daryl+Leah line was pretty weak. Lack of emotions, no warmness, no spark. The story about Lucile is a real tragic love story made a great shot within one episode and Daryl+Leah wasn't even close for me. I remember S10 ending - it was about 4.2 rating for "Diverged" Daryl and Carol episode and it was 9.2 for "Here's Negan" which was for sure one of the best episodes over the seasons.
Saying Negan and Jeffrey sucks is a stupid statement. I can't take it as a point of view since it's totally unmature. The whole idea of Rick's group was overconfidence after taking over Alexandria and their miracle winstreak (which started to be super boring) and they greatly exceeded their real significance acting like a band of unkillable Rambos. And Negan's appearance was the Red Pill and fixed it turning the superhero story to reality with a hit of a bat. "You're not superheroes, you're just a little group within a big world full of bands". Also I'd say Judith (Caley Flaming) saved the day as well because Judith died in a brutal way in the comic and without her it was going to be a disasterous ending for Grimes family within few episodes.
Sesason 10 is great by the way. The Whisperers is a great group with unique mechanics within TWD world and in a lot of other visual and ideological ways. It brings us Lydia who's pretty solid secondary character being hated at the start and beloved in the end. But on the other hand Maggie's return turned from epic start to boring ineffective leadership of her pretty fast. But their relationship with Negan is gold and Lauren Cohan made great. Her look is something. I felt really uncomfortable because that hate look was so real like I did something wrong just being a viewer. The Reapers were great visually at the beginning but faded instantly after removing their masks unfortunately. Leah wasn't bad even though she's a cold hard blonde but Daryl is just a rock IDK - he's emotionless.And again.. The most epic moment with reapers? "Well... Ding-ding"
I think I'm one of the few that liked the show to the end. I had to finish the show because it was a long jouney and me a my Dad watched it together. He died two years ago so I didn't finish it with him. I'm looking forward to the Rick show and the other spin offs.
Hello Clashed PR! I love your videos and you inspired me to make TWD edits and content, started 5ish days ago and it's going well! Appreciate you a lot
Negan is almost the definition of a redemption arc
fun story:
I noticed that there is a show called "the walking dead", I asked my friend "did you see it?" he said he stopped watching when "a certan character killed someone", (he ment glen,) so I still watched it though, and I love every season and it is my fav show of all time.
I stopped watching after Glenn died but after a couple of months I picked the show back up and it was pretty good; Negan quickly became my favorite character after Andrew’s departure.
y’all didn’t even care that much about glenn. most of you stopped watching because of the way he got killed
I just finished the series and I loved it! Can’t wait for the spin-off shows!
"cause you aint got no guts" "look they were inside you all along" are my favorite negan lines, i haven't watch past all out war
Negan and Gabriel became one of the best duos in TV history!
Negan is a top 5 character, his development is great ngl.
I believe Negan deserves an entire show dedicated to his story. Just like Rick had it. No back stories. A WHOLE SHOW dedicated to him and how the saviors became the saviors. I think that would be awesome.
Love this video. Great work dude
Rick didn't attack the saviors for no reason. First of all, they attacked Rick's group first with that group of bikers that Daryl takes down. Then because of the deal with Hilltop. Negan was going to all communities to kill one person then slavering them. How can you even say that Rick is the bad guy?
They are both the bad guys
@@hman378 no
@@hman378 No, Rick isn't. He is only defending his family. He uses violence wisely.
My bad bro, my memory is really foggy of the exact details.
@@RatchetEvolution didnt abarham and sasha drew blood first when shooting thoes saviors cars. But man both sides are bad it's the apocalypse thiers no moral high ground rick and gang went into a outpost first killed like 40 people all for a cow.
Who tf says JDM‘s acting was bad? His monologues in the S6 finale and S7x1 were perfect and the entire time he was portrayed as I would expect him to be: A cocky piece of shit, who got used to being the one in power, at first, later a struggling leader, when a not so onesided war broke out and his leadership was questioned (a breaking image of superiority). Especially the moments when Negan’s amused facade breaks, when he is shown resistance and his position is attacked, are acted perfectly. Later, JDM made the character redeemable with his performance while somehow still managing to believably maintain his characteristics from before.
Negan is not my favorite villain (Governor) nor later anti-hero (Shane), but not because he is bad, just not as perfect as these two. The last thing to blame for that is the acting.
a shane fan, govenor fan, and jdm acting fan? u are a goldmine, but in terms of character and impact yea shane and gov SHIT on negan, i think negan genuinely was super boring bruh
holy shit negan was tracking rick's IP this whole time? I KNEW IT! ngl that is the best transition to a sponsor i have EVER seen lmao
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I didn't get it🤔
Idk why but I died when you called Simon, “Trevor Phillips”😂
I absolutely agree, negan is one of the best things to ever happen to twd, this show will forever be my favourite, best show oat! Along with breaking bad and the sopranos
I get why people took such a shock/hit when glen died, Completely understood. But I honestly do think season 7 is one of the best seasons just because there's just so much packed into one season and as Negan once said ''its a roller coaster of emotions'' you got friendship, hate/anger, love... and even some straight up wtf moments xD but come on lets be honest the moment we heard ''easy street'' likeness of the Negan kinda went up, Shit is catchy yo
AMAZING VIDEO AS ALWAYS BRO
Thank you, this is sich a good documentary on it, Well edited and great points. I feel like so much of the TWD community just watches the show for it's hype, they have illogical reasons of hating Negan and the show most of the times, it's like fans believe "More popular the better" I wjshed Rick stayed but the show still had more to offer.
I love negan he carried the last 2 seasons!
Something you gloss over here is the wives he kept as sex slaves. A lot of people who hate Negan want him dead specifically because of that. I think the show missed an opportunity by not having him express regret for doing that. Otherwise I agree he doesn’t deserve the hate he gets and he’s the best character in the later seasons.
Very true, I was specifically focusing on his character from writing perspective but one of the things I don’t like is how they brush over that. Ezekiel briefly mentioned it in S11 but he didn’t really care.
Well even before the apocalypse, negan already a cheater, so thats explain a lot why he didnt regret it
@@ClashedPR um Clashed? They weren't sex slaves. None of them were "required" to sleep with him, there was 0 punishment for refusing sex, even if they were his wife. It's definitely a human-rights violation since Sherry had to be his wife to spare Dwight's life, but she was never forced to sleep with him, that part is completely up to the wives if they want to.
@@ClashedPR Remember, Ezekiel said he "coerced women into MARRYING him" not sexual coercion, marriage coercion.
Thank you. I never understood the hate for season 7 and 8 I think they’re among the best in series.
Megan was really good in his first few episodes but progressively got worse with every time he reappeared. He went from an intimidating bad guy to a cartoon character with the thickest plot armor in all of friction. It became painfully clear that he'll never die cause the fans love him so much.
Rick wasn't worse than Negan. Sure, his personal kill count might have been higher, and they acted first in the hopes to save themselves and the other communities from Negans tyranny. Don't forget how Negan treated his people, how he punished with extreme measure and sometimes over shit or false reasons too, how he forced woman into marrying him, raped. I love both characters and Negan is pretty much the best the show had to over in later seasons, but in his past he was not a good mean. Not at all.
Thing is what made the season 6 finale so controversial is that everyone wanted to know who Negan killed. It got to the point where there were rumors of leaks. To keep the fans on their toes the creators made scenes for everyone dying by Negan and leaked them that way nobody knew who was actually gonna die there have been people who have found Maggie dying in that scene
Yeah you nailed it! And I completely agree. I think people didn’t like the saviours and the new format and not a dislike for Negan. So it just happened that when he came the show changed and og fans didn’t like the change. However, from season 6-11 every new season was not good enough to live up to the hype of og walking dead. That’s what caused the end of it. Negan was a great character and potentially the best from season 7-11 tho.
I believe the variant hes leaving out while explaining this is that most of the ppl takking about Glenn and negan literally watched the shows over years of time. We got a episode a week so they had a lot of time invested in these characters talking about it in between episodes and the buildup and everything else so while doing this ppl actually get close to the characters a lot more than ppl who just binge watch it you know cause everything is cooming so fast. Its definitely a lot different than having to wait a whole week. So i think if you take all of that into consideration also then it woould make more sense why some ppl stopped watching after glenn. For one they was attached to him annd probably didnt want to watch other beloved characters die. Idk for sure but it definitely adds to the convo.
the problem with TWD was that it would have an ep covering one characters story line, end it with them in danger, then not go back to that character for 3, maybe 4 episodes, so the danger was no longer a cliff hanger it was just...cold. you'd forgotten why you needed to watch this ep "too see if X makes it!"
After Rick and Michonne left, Negan was one of the few reasons why I continued watching. Personally, I thought most of the whisper’s story arc was an uninteresting, and the Commonwealth story arc was dragged out for too long.
I from my heavy heart love the way you didn't even glinch about calling the dude Simon but went with Trevor Philips, a true GTA fan and earned my respect, i called him trevor the whole time aswell while i watched the show
That transition into the VPN ad was unreal. Nice.
Honestly, I think I was probably one of those Bandwagon fans who joined in with the hype, only.... I kept watching it because of Negan. Season 7 was brutal to watch, but I feel that was the point, Rick and the group weren't in charge anymore, at least for that season, and I actually smiled each time Negan came onto the screen, because I liked the character. Season 8 was a bit of a letdown since the tagline was "All-out War" or something like that, and only a few episodes had action. Season 9 was good and hyped up the Whisperers well. Season 10 was a bit slow at times, but I, too, enjoyed Negan's backstory (fun fact: Negan's wife is actually played by Jeffery Dean Morgan's actual wife in real life).
Season 11 again was a bit slow to begin with, but I feel it ended really well, and I'm glad that Negan lasted that long and will live on to be in a new show with Maggie.
The fact that rick doesn't use express vpn was actually became his downfall
That was the best setup for an advertisement I’ve ever seen 🤣🤣 I’ll download it!!
S7 is a great season and thanks for mentioning that.
Actually when I first saw negan he was so overpowered.
Tbh s6 finale and s7 ep 1 were the best episodes of walking dead.
When a strong villain is introduced then it's tough for the protagonist to overcome the problem. Which makes the show interesting.
S7 was interesting bcs i wondered how rick will beat negan.
And that was well written too.
S7 was very good
Bro that transition into the ad was absolutely slick as hell
Negan is fun to watch and I don’t hate him, but it’s strange to me that his defenders always overlook the fact that the saviors provoked Rick’s crew first in season 6 when some saviors provoked Daryl, Abraham and Sasha
When that’s taken into account, it makes sense that Rick would want to strike back considering that the saviors could attack them again at any time without them knowing, sure Negan might not have ordered them to do that but that doesn’t matter since Rick and co had no way of knowing that
So in conclusion, Rick might’ve struck back too excessively but he wanted to take them out right away before they became a massive problem akin to the Governor and the cannibals, so he wanted to have the best possible chances of survival
such a good video cookie glad people feel the same way
The decision to keep Negan alive wasn’t really a decision made by the writers. It happened in the comics.
Yo that's wild ASF I watched the walking dead when it was airing and it didn't fall off just a lot of the viewers left and NEGAN isn't the only reason the show still stands real walking dead fans know Darl's an OG Gabriell's (The priest) an OG Rosita's an OG carol's an OG..... NEGAN is good but the show it's self was still good
Negan wasn't that bad of a guy. "If anyone moves, cut out the kid's other eye and feed it to his father."
Love it man!🔥
I wouldn't say Negan "killed" The Walking Dead. Him and the Saviors were the main reason why I started watching the show back in 2016 (don't worry, I watched 1-6 eventually). It was that they ruined the characterization of our heroes and made them do things that they wouldn't have in the past.
Then seasons 9, 10, and 11 came around and made Negan an even better hero, one that everyone wanted to see win in the end.