How to Fit 37's with a Synergy 2.5" Leveling Kit
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- čas přidán 11. 12. 2018
- Want to know how to fit 37" tires on your Ram with only a 2.5" leveling kit? We took this 4th gen Ram 2500 and installed Synergy MFG's new 2.5" leveling kit on it along with some 37" tires and Raceline wheels. With a massive improvement in ride quality and looks, this kit is a no brainer over a spacer lift!
Check it out on our website:
www.cjcoffroad.com/Synergy-Ram...
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Synergy makes quality parts for these trucks. I’m running the synergy steering set up and it’s great 👍🏿
I bought this kit and 17” method wheels from you guys, got it put on today with 37’s. I love the ride and the look!
Kelly Hill Did you need to install a new track bar to center the wheels?
Duane Kavanaugh no I didn’t. I live in TX, and just had a shop follow what CJC did. I actually ended up taking the 12.5 wide RT tires off and put 13.5 wide and put TOYO MT’s on it. The tires look better in my opinion and I wanted a type E tire because I pull a trailer sometimes and liked the look of MT better. The tires don’t go all the way to lock and rub some on the inside of the control arm though
Kelly Hill Thank you!
What method wheel and what backspacing to fit the 37s?
Awesome video, I only have one suggestion. For your guys installing tires on the trucks, get them a tire lift to save their backs. If you already have one make sure they use it. Back injuries have ended a lot of careers. Young guys will refuse at first but will see the benefit.
CJC Off-road is the best!!!
Great video, thanks guys!
Installed after watching. Love it👍
Enjoy it!
@@CJCOffRoad I tried taking this idea in to a diesel shop here in Canada and they said they were hesitant because there’s a major wiring harness on the drivers side where they would have to trim. I have the exact same truck as the video basically. I work in the oil patch and drive down lots of muddy roads and trails and the mechanic said I would most likely cause a lot of damage. I already have a levelling kit with 35’s. And they don’t stock synergy in Alberta I guess. Any suggestions to get this look? Other brands perhaps. And! Will it cause wiring harness damage if used in tough work environments ?
What diameter wheel did you run? And did you need to run an Their adjustable track bar or radius arm brackets?
all on stock 3:55 ring and pinion....its like magic
Great video Cole and CJ crew! No joke I am wearing my CJC Offroad tshirt right now as I watched the video! Not the camo design tho.... :( haha
I need to order one for my 16 ram 3500 Laramie
Did you run a new track bar ? If not how far does the tire stick out
What's the difference between the bilstein leveling kit for the 2016 ram 2500 6.4 compared to the thuren 3 inch coil? Thanks
How bad would this kit be with a plow? Do you guys have anything that would hold up better under a plow?
What is 2019 Ram 2500 4x4 truck HEIGHT (including antenna-fin) with this leveling kit vs Thuren (2” coils) vs Carli 2.5” kits on 37’s??
How would you compare this to the Carli 2.5 inch leveling kit?
What if I want to keep my stock wheels?
CJC Off Road do you have to trim anything If u want to run 37s on stock 18x8 Ram rims??
Wish they made a flat plat to put in place of the trimming
Do they make a 3.5" levelling kit?
Will this kit work on my power wagon and if so will it lift me 2.25 inches like the description says or just . 25 since I'm already lofted 2" stock
How do these coils compare to 5th gen oem power wagon front coils?
What wheels are those?
Great video! I just got a 2019 Ram 2500 Laramie early December 2019 and am for sure going with your guys kit. As far as tire size I’m torn between a 37x12.50 or a 37x13.50. Will a 13.50 wide fit with a +20 offset and the trimming you guys demonstrated?
Yep! It will absolutely fit on the truck. 13.5 just takes a tad more trimming, but nothing crazy or noticeable. It’s all on the plastic fender liner and edge of the cab pinch weld in the fender.
Did you do a realignment on that truck
What kind of extra work did you have to do for the 37s? Speedo calibration? Does the factory gearing allow for proper towing capacity while running 37s?
We do recalibrate the speedos if customers ask for it to be done. Customers can also chose to re-gear their trucks, but most don't because of the cost in doing so. It's all personal choice, and dependent on the gear ratio the truck was equipped with from the factory. Factory 4:10 and 3:73 trucks can get away with 37's no problem, but the 3:42 and higher trucks get influenced more with 37s.
Is this the same for the Carli leveling kit?
Will work on a 2012 ram 2500?
Please help. Leveling kit with 35”s still fit in a standard garage???? 2014 ram 2500. Thanks.
What width are the wheels that were run?
I do not see that spring on there website that you put on that truck you said it’s a 2.5 coil lift on the site it says 2.25 how do I get the 2.5 that you put on?
Looking for more info on regearing thoughts also, from factory to 37"toyos
On a 2018 2500 6.7. Lift kit and fit and finish looks nice in video
We have plenty of customers that do not regear. If you look at our social media pages for trucks on 37s, 2 out of 10 probably get regeared.
From what I've read, running 37's and 4.10 gears puts you back at/near factory ratios. If you tow heavy (10K+) then it seems to be the recommendation to regear, if not or infrequently then the consensus is to not worry about it.
So what about the track bar ??
You have any examples on a 2017 power wagon ?
You wouldn’t really gain anything, the power wagon front suspension is already lifted 2.25” over factory.
Does any one know... if this same system will fit the 2019 ram 2500 6.4 Hemi? May be a dumb question but I cannot find any sort of lift or level for the 6.4 Hemi... any help would be greatly appreciated.
We have plenty of options for Hemi trucks on the site! Give it a look.
I have a 07 mega cab can I put 40 14.50 20 tires and 20x12 with 44 offset rims on a 6 inch lift
That set up would require extreme cutting, or a major sacrifice of turning radius.
After you've trimmed the plastic, is there any way to re-seal the fender liner? Living in mid-Atlantic states means plenty of salt and brine on the roads during the winters. That brine is nasty stuff and will easily get into any open seams and cause issues.
TheFestusss there is a foam like material in behind the plastic. i removed it. the brine soaks in and stays. Ontario Canada must be using all the brine lol. horrible stuff.
Most of the plastics on the RAM are ABS or nylon or a mix. For ABS you can solvent weld the seams closed by just putting acetone on the plastic and letting the surfaces melt together. You can also do whats known as friction welding. Where you can take ABS or nylon, and spin it in a drill or dremel to melt it, and join two parts back together.
of course there are also plastic welding kits. But often the plastics included in those kits are not very flexible and tend to just kind booger up, unless care is taken, and they are smoothed out well. The base of most plastic welding kits are often a iron in teh temp range of plastics, with a large tip for thermal stability. Or a modified glue gun that works at higher temps.
Like to see that whee well after the hack cutting . Why not run 35” tires . Also video left out further work that needs to be done .
There is no “hack cutting” just some basic trimming of the plastic fender liner with a razor blade.
How does this kit compare to the Carli leveling kit? Which one is better?
Both of the Fox kits with out the track bar are about the same.
I'd be curious which one is considered better but since they sell them both I doubt they'll answer that with a straight answer. Also, most people won't shell out a 1000+ each to try each kit out.
My advice, you can't go wrong with either.
I might be ordering this kit from you guys for my 2015 Ram. Did you notice a big difference in ride quality? Also, could you tell me the size of the wheels? Are those 17 or 18"?
Yes, there is an improvement in ride. The wheels are 17"
How do you have to place the wheel weights to clear the brake calipers on those 17” wheels?
You set them close to the spokes and use a "static" balance.
How much is this total, wheels, tires, lift kit install and everything?
Give us a call M-F 9:00-5:00!
Will stock 20s on my 18 ram have the correct offset?
No, they'll cause significant rub on the arm with a 37 because they are too tucked in. Check out our video about wheel specs for 37's and it should answer all your questions!
Need an alignment afterwards? Interested for my 2018 3500 dually. Run 33s or 35s. Thinking 33s more so as i still tow.
yes, an alignment is needed any time a truck is lifted as is changes the geometry of the front end.
@@CJCOffRoad Out of factory specs or factory? I know many shops wont do out of factory.
I have a 2018 ram 2500. Will a 20x9 +20mm rim and a 37" 12.50 tire fit with this leveling kit after I trim??
Yep that should fit just fine!
@@CJCOffRoad would I need wheel spacers? I've heard it will rub against my control arms with no wheel spacers.
For anyone that did this and I never hear CJC talk about is gearing, do you need to re-gear ? will the 37's affect the towing or make a big difference in mpg? I have a 2021 Ram 2500 cummins and I tow 7000lbs 3 times per week locally. Thanks
We've covered that in several videos! With a 2021 truck you likely have 3.73 gears, in which case there's really no gain in re-gearing. The only trucks that we recommend re-gearing for people that tow heavy are the 14-18 3.42 factory rear end trucks!
Can I run this on my 2017 megacab ?
Yes sir, you can!
Can you run this on a 2500 6.4 hemi? Thanks
Have to be careful. The 6.7L and 6.4L hemi are massive weight differences. This coukd work, but it might be stiff AF in your operation wuere for me itll be smooth as an old cadillac
Am I mistaken, I thought negative offset moved the rims/centerline of the tires further from the wheels? This would mean +20s would bring the tires more inside the wheel wells, wouldn’t it?
Correct, you want the wheel a little more towards the center of the truck. This allows the 37" tire to fit inside the fender when turning and not touch the body while turning.
CJC Off Road I see, thank you
What psi do y’all sent the front and rear tires to?
Typically around 45 for street driving but that depends on the load rating of the tire.
When you trimmed the wheel well, did you do anything to keep water and debris from going in there when driving?
There isn’t anything for it to damage. The wiring harnesses are all still protected, and everything else drains well.
@@CJCOffRoad Thank you
I’m wanting to put 37x14 on 22s what do you guess recommend for the right size lift and set up? Will a 4in work without rubbing like crazy?
2013 Ram 2500
Hi. What offset would you need to make sure the tyres don’t extend past the wheel arches? As that’s illegal here in Australia. But would love some 37s on my 2019 2500 if I can.
You’ll want +20 to +25 offset. Our CJC edition Method 315 wheels are going to be your wheel of choice for that! Check them out on our website.
And about 2019 2500 Stock?
At 2:35 you said +18 offset, is it +20 offset or +18?
These wheels are +18 but both 81 our 20 will work.
This or carly?
looks good. Would i have to re-gear to run the 37's. I have a 2018
That is a matter of personal opinion. If you tow extremely heavy you may want to. About 2 out of 10 that we do on 37s get gears.
@@CJCOffRoad how about 5 inch lift and 37x 13.50 tires and I tow light once in blue , should I regear if so to what? I have stock 3.42
I would like to use my factory 20” wheels with this lift and tire size. How big of spacers would I need?
At least 1.5"
I use 2.5" spacers with stock rims to clear the knuckles and other goodies. Mine are just 33x12.50R20
I have a 2017 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 hemi. All your descriptions say diesel only. Will this fit my Ram?
This does not work for Hemi trucks, but we have this system that does! www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/2019-ram-2500-3500-thuren/products/thuren-fabrication-fox-2-0-ifp-leveling-system-2013-dodge-ram-3500-2014-2500
What do you guys recommend on a new power wagon to fit 37 x 12.50's?
We recommend 8.5-9” wide wheels with +18 to +25 offset and either a Thuren, Carli, or Synergy leveling system!
STOCK RIMS WONT WORK?@@CJCOffRoad
Can I run a 20x10 wheel on a 37in tire with this set up?
You can, but will have heavy trimming and rub with that on ANY level system.
I have a 2016 ram 3500 slt dually 4x4 will this kit fit
Yep, here’s a link! www.cjcoffroad.com/Synergy-Ram-2500-3500-2013-2019-Leveling-System-p/8750-10.htm
I am going to add an after market bumper with a winch so I’m worried that the softer springs in this package wouldn’t take the added pounds too well. Not doing any heavy off reading or anything but I’m worried about sag. I own a 2017 ram 2500 CTD Laramie
If you think about it, most bumpers are maybe 100 to 200 pounds at most over the factory bumper, which is basically the weight of having a grown man in the passenger seat. Essentially it makes very little difference on these HD diesel trucks!
What size are the rims?
17"
Anything for an air ride?
Yes! Email us! sales@cjcoffroad.com
can anyone install this or just the shop?
You can easily install it yourself! We also offer tech support to those trying to tackle it themselves. Anyone who asters the phone here, has installed these systems personally.
If I have 20×11 moto metal rims what would I have to do to make this clear
Also is a negative offset
They won’t, you’ll have significant rub with that set up sadly.
Would this kit work on a non diesel
Yep!
Hey CJC do you need an alignment after doing this lift?
Yep, and any time you lift the front end, you need to re-center the steering wheel. It’s a very easy process though. We have a how to video on our channel walking you through the steps.
CJC Off Road if the steering wheel stayed straight should I be fine?
Yep! Just follow the provided instructions. You’ll also adjust the caster cams as part of the installation process.
I know this is an older video but will 37s fit with your 2 1/2 carli leveling kit?
Yep! To fit 37s on a Ram truck we recommend a +12 to +27 offset wheel that is no wider than 9.5.” A +12 wheel will yield a slight poke from the fender, while a +27 wheel is just about flush with the side of the truck. If you're curious what that looks like, give this article a read as it has a ton of examples and a video showing different setups. www.cjcoffroad.com/blogs/cjc-off-road-blog/1994-2024-ram-hd-wheel-and-tire-fitment-and-trimming-guide-for-fitting-35s-37s-and-38s
@@CJCOffRoad thanks for the quick response. I'm offshore and will be installing once I'm shoreside. I more question. So a 22 or 24 inch wheel that's no more that 9.5 wide and an offset between +12 and +27 should work too?
If you want to run 37x13.5 what is the recommended offset?
+18 offset works well usually on the Ram platform.
@@CJCOffRoad ok thank you! I'm actually looking at getting a 2012 ram this upcoming summer
Can i use stock wheels with 37x13,5?
Anything on thuren 3 inch coil on 2016 ram 2500 6.4?
Jeff Bennett got them on my truck (6.4 Hemi) and it’s dead level! Been on since truck was 2 months old (dec. “16) with Overland shocks and it’s great! BTW - I got my stuff from CJC; they’re awesome to work with!
@@bryanabsher2546 So you didn't need a 1 inch spacer in the rear? Also did you do the track bar?
Jeff Bennett no spacer for the back and I didn’t do the track bar due to the truck being brand new at the time. Truck currently has 27k miles and still drives great!
I have a 2019 Ram 2500, with a 2.5 in levelling kit installed. Can you tell me if 37's will fit?
They will with the right wheels. To fit 37s on a Ram truck we recommend a +12 to +27 offset wheel that is no wider than 9.5”
@@CJCOffRoad
Thank you. Appreciate the help.
Do you think you can fit 22s on 37s dually with a leveling kit ?
You absolutely can as long as the wheels aren't crazy aggressive like a super single.
@@CJCOffRoad they are the 10 lug 22s Alcoa but it would be the dually front not a super single front
Will that kit work with a airbag rear suspension
Yes, we include a new sensor rod if you let us know that you have an air ride truck.
@@CJCOffRoad I just ordered the springs from you and I do have the rear air suspension on my 2016 3500. Do I need this new sensor?
@@LarryRichelli I am having shipping send a separate package with the longer rods!
I have an ‘18 Ram 3500 single rear wheel. I’d like to go with 35s because a fifth wheel is in the plans somewhere. I daily drive the truck. Would the speedometer be off versus the stock tires? If I chose to go 37s, how could I go about calibrating the speedometer and not mess with warranty?
The speedometer is off about 4-5 at roughly 70 MPH. Most guys don’t recalibrate but Hypertech and Edge products both have modules to adjust it
A good spacer rides exactly like the stock suspension
If you are going to spend some money, why not improve the ride?
would there be any issues with a 2012 3500 longhorn?
Nope!
@@CJCOffRoad ok was wondering because the website lists it as 2013+ for the leveling kit, wasn't sure if something had been changed or woud need to be on a 12
You’ll want the product listed for a 2012: www.cjcoffroad.com/3-Carli-Dodge-Suspension-Systems-s/2162.htm
Could you run 35s without cutting?
Yes
What about with just a 2.5 leveling kit
Have y’all run into any 2018 or older rams with a welded drag link due to a recall? If so, what was your route forward
Yes, go aftermarket if you’re still under warranty take it to dodge tell them no one will align it. It was a bullshit fix
Does this rub when backing up at full steering lock?
It does not, it goes lock to lock!
How’s it for a 2019 ?
Perfect fit!
@@CJCOffRoad for a 19 powerwagon?
Hey Cole!? Are those wheels hub centric specific for the Ram or are hub centric rings needed? I tow a trailer and don’t want my lug studs to carry the load.
Most aftermarket wheels these days are lug centric. You can source hub centric rings, but sometimes running the rings with lug centric lug nuts can cause issues.There are thousands of customers running lug centric wheels that's towing without issue.
Do you need the track bar for this lift?
It's highly recommended. This is our favorite one: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/2019-dodge-ram-2500-3500-suspension/products/carli-suspension-2019-ram-2500-3500-4x4-adjustable-track-bar
@@CJCOffRoad I ordered it! Had previously ordered the synergy one but sent that back! Super excited
37 X X by what? So much information is missing
37/12.5/17
Can I run this setup in an 06 megacab?
This set up is for 2013+ trucks only. For your 2006, you'd be looking at a different kit from either Carli Suspension, Thuren Fabrication, or Synergy.
We need more Ford content!
Leveling makes your truck look like a Ford going up hill
Least till you get a 200lb bumper and it squats the front again
Lol +24 offset damn what’s the point even
Fitting a 37 and still maintaining the ability to turn...
Do the trans a favor and regear. Sheesh
We’ve got lots of customers with over 100k miles on factory gears with 37s.
950 for a 2.5 inch lift. GTFO.
I don't know why even run a 37 unless you want a lifted look.
@Dan 1'' extra clearance isn't going to be a game changer. You sacrifice a lot of torque and acceleration and gain little to noting on the frame clearance height. I.e. 1''.
@Dan For "better ride" get IFS mom cadillac. I don't get this obsession with "softer ride". I want my truck to ride as stiff and as solid as possible so I have no sway and can take a cargo load well.
Stock tires are 33’s so going to 37’s is an extra 2 inches of clearance