M1102 Overlanding Trailer Review - Pros and Cons
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- The M1102 trailer was once used by the U.S. Military to carry heavy loads and equipment behind High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (aka HMMVWs or "Humvees"). I have been using one as an overlanding trailer for nearly two years and felt it was time to do a comprehensive review of this trailer and list some pros and cons of using the M1102.
4-Pin Wiring Harness Adaptor for the M1101/M1102
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:53 - Overview
02:37 - Backround
04:56 - Pro #1: Off-Road Capability
05:31 - Pro #2: Carrying Capacity
06:34 - Pro #3: Durability
07:21 - Pro #4: Versatility
07:55 - Con #1: Bouncy
09:45 - Con #2: Pintle Hitch
11:51 - Con #3: Size
13:06 - Con #4: Registration
14:15 - Overall Thoughts
14:55 - Bonus Con: 24V
15:43 - Replacement Parts
16:00 - Good Project Trailer
16:34 - End Goals
17:01 - Bug Out Trailer
17:34 - Use as a Base Camp
17:55 - Extro
18:30 - Memorable Outings
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Good video. I have a green camo 1102 that I got for $1800. Previous owner had already converted to 12v and got it registered in CA. CA requires paperwork from the auction site. Another possible con is the surge brake may engage while off-roading if you’re trying to reverse out. Some guys will stick a C clamp on the hitch to keep it from moving and engaging the brake. I do the same thing and keep it loaded in my garage with all my camp and bugout gear.
Thanks for the tip about the C clamp. I realized after the fact, that I totally forgot to mention anything about the surge brakes. Another pro and a con? 😂 Thank you!
The electric brake conversion is easy to install.
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Love the content. I've been going down to PINS from SA for close to 20 years now. It's been a challenge to find the right gear and you're experience and videos have been helpful. My current set up is an AEV Gladiator JT370 pulling a Taxa Wooly Bear. Space always seems to be tight but it's a comfortable setup. Hoping to head west to Big Bend soon!
Thanks! I’m glad you found them helpful! I really need to get down to PINS again. Sounds like have a very nice set up!
Good info thanks for sharing!
Happy to do it!
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Super happy to see this content again 👏 💯🤘🤘🤘
Glad you liked it Chris! Hope all is well with you!
@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy doing good
You and the family hope all the best and yall continue a great 2024 year 👍 👍 👍
I need and want one!
392 Sounds soo good!
Thanks! It never gets old! 😂
Use to these went for $500 bucks, now they go for $1500 - $2000, funny how since "overlanding" became a "sport" these ( and everything else that has the word "overland" on it) skyrocketed in price. They are a great platform though, I have been considering picking one up if I can get a good deal on one that is already tagged.
It’s the “overland tax” 😂
Just wanted to follow up on the registration part of this video. I too live in Texas and have a M1102. Registration was MUCH easier for me. If you only register it at total weight of 4k pounds, it doesn't need a title or inspection. Just the manufacturer info and vin number. I also swapped tires, but AFTER I swapped the drums to six lug. Everything still works as provided, but six lugs matches my other vehicles bolt pattern. I also went with matching rims and 265/70r17 tires. I changed all the bulbs to 12v LED, and removed the trailer wire end. Changing it to a standard civilian 7 pin.
ETA: I forgot, I also turned the "black out" lights in the tail lights to reverse lights. Super easy job and worth doing. When doing the bulb swap, simply remove the tinted cover in that section, and make sure the hitch end wire is wired correctly. I also have my spare tire mounted underneath the bed of the trailer.
Thanks for the tips! It sounds like yours is nicely equipped!
@cyclcm Could you please share the spare tire mount information? I'm assuming you used a pickup bed spare tire mount?
@@kris_Hendo Yeah, there's a youtube video of a guy who mounted his spare underneath the rear end of the trailer using the same one from a pickup truck. It involves using a thick metal plate in the bed and drilling a few holes. Seems like a pretty solid way to get the spare out of the way.
I love mine too
I believe the weight difference in the m1101 and m1102 is just for military classification for air lifting etc. the two trailers are identical in parts.
Hmm that is interesting!
I pull a M1102 behind my H1. I've got a custom aluminum bed rack with 8020 rails on top holding my Condor 2 XL. In the process of mounting a HF crane to the tongue to make it so I can load and unload the rack/RTT in 5 minutes.
Nice setup! I like the crane idea! Let us know how that goes!
If you want to get rid of some of the rake, flip the brake unit. You have to drill three sets of holes on the bottom of the main bar. It's made to carry alot of weight. The axle is rated for such a high class that it does not flex the torsion bar until you have about 2500 pounds in it. The shocks are more or less rebound control.
I may have to try that on the brake flip. On a more recent trip, I was actually surprised the shocks were actually working at all. I mounted a GoPro camera to the rear end facing forward, in order to see the suspension in action. You can see the footage in this video: czcams.com/video/S7L40ERSzOQ/video.htmlsi=vHWIf4E40A-MWgdc&t=736
I have one of these and I'm towing it with a tundra. My hitch is crazy low compared to the lunette. Call me stupid, but how do you keep brake fluid in it if you flip the brake unit upside down? I love this as a solution if it'll work.
@@jaywhy85 i got a drop hitch and flipped it up side down so it goes upwards . Gotta get one that has or accepts the pintle hitch.
@@homesteadhustlerz7660 yeah, I have a gen-y with an 8 inch rise and it still almost isn't enough. Haven't seen anything before about flipping the brake unit...
@9:56 "it's rather noisy" you are correct sir! However, most military pintle hooks are rated for 50K lbs, even on the Humvee. The lunette ring on these trailers has a 3" ID which when mated to the proper pintle hook has very little play in it. I run a 20K pintle hook with has a 2" OD and that reduces the noise mostly except in extreme off-roading. When the trailer is loaded with the correct tongue weight and your towing on-road its pretty quite. I don't like the ball/pintle latch hitches for this reason mostly, they are too sloppy. I also don't trust them. My truck is lifted and rides on 37" tires, the hitch receiver center-line sits at 22" above the ground. My trailer has 35" tires (PO kept the run-flats) and the lunette ring sits at 29.6" I run a 6" rise hitch. With the trailer loaded it tows almost flat with a slight forward rake. The weight on the tongue helps a lot. I have noticed degraded towing stability with any sort of rearward weight bias in the trailer. Thanks for posting the video. I can't say enough about this trailers!
Wow, I had no idea the hooks were rated for that much weight! Amazing! And yeah I was just mentioning what could be considered “cons”. I absolutely love my m1102 as it sounds like you do as well! 👍
If you get a real pintle hitch and not a pintle 2 5/16 combo it will have significantly less play in the hitch.
I’ve thought about giving that a shot. Will it still articulate as well?
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy I have never had any problems with it and in fact find a regular ball hitch will articulate pretty well too.
Could you fit a 6’ lawnmower between the wheel wells?
I’m not sure but here’s a link to some dimensions and specs of the m1102. www.vintagemilitarytrucks.com/M1102_Cargo_Trailer_Page.htm
No, a 50" quad fits with approx 2" on each side.
Can you talk about the registration process? I'm in Texas as well.
Well, first, you have to get it inspected. In my county, Bexar, this was conducted by the San Antonio Police Department. They required to have either a title or a placard off the trailer, specifying some sort of serial number or VIN number. Once they had that, they were able to pass it and I was then able to register it and obtain a Texas title.
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy thanks for the info. I took my bill of sale to my local tax office and got it registered and applied for a title. Super easy process.
@@elielhinojosa2604 That’s awesome! Glad it was a streamlined process!
Nice video, thanks. I’m talking to a guy to buy his - a 1999 model m1102. He says it has no brakes - just an emergency system brake that engages if you lose the trailer. Can anyone explain the brake system on these for me? I thought they all had surge brakes on them.
I believe they come with them but I’ve read about people removing them and switching to an electric setup. Or, for added clearance, some people have flipped the surge brake assembly on the hitch. So, it’s definitely something that’s removable. Perhaps what the guy was referring to was the surge brakes. I could see them engaging when the trailer is unhooked, maybe. It definitely doesn’t have live brakes that work in tandem with the tow vehicle’s. Just speculating that might be what he meant by “no brakes”.
Ok - I thought that the surge brakes activated when the tow vehicle brakes, putting pressure on the surge brake mechanisms
You are correct. But, I think the surge brakes only engages during hard braking or emergency braking. Not during just regular braking. At least that's my understanding of it. I could be wrong though. I don't really feel it working but perhaps it has in the past. Some people have claimed that it can lock the brakes when backing up on an incline, causing damage to the hitch or hitch assembly. But I have not experienced this either. There's a Facebook group called "M1101 and other military trailers" that I am a member of. I'm going to ask someone on there as they seem to have very knowlegeable people about the M1101/2. I will let you know what I find out.
This appears to be the best answer I've gotten so far. "That person was mistaken, it is a surge brake, with a breakaway brake feature as well. (do NOT move that lever into the breakaway brake position, you can't just flip it back off, requires some work to release and reset it). Anytime you slow the tow vehicle it will apply some braking dependent on how much the trailers surge brake is compressed, same as your vehicle brakes are controlled by how much pressure you apply with your foot. It varies by how much weight is in the trailer, how quickly your tow vehicle is stopping, uphill/downhill etc. Hence the term surge brake. It is always active when in stock form. ALSO, from what I remember the brake fluid used by military in the trailers is synthetic based and the closest thing, from what I understand, commercially available is DOT5 synthetic. Verify that by checking the cap etc." So, it sounds like it should have the surge brakes and they have the emergency break away feature. I hope this helps!
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy Thanks for the information! Sounds like it would be tough to really figure out before purchasing..
is the M1101 better on the bouncing?
I’m not sure.