Fade acne marks! Post inflammatory hyperpigmentation & post inflammatory erythema | PIH & PIE
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 1. 06. 2024
- đ This week Iâm talking about fading acne scars!! đ
Specifically, post inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH) from acne scars and post inflammatory erythema (PIE) or the discoloration left after inflammatory acne or picking at or popping pimples, over-exfoliation, etc.
Iâll explain what is post inflammatory hyperpigmentation & post inflammatory erythema and whatâs the difference between PIH and PIE. Then we get into the best products to treat PIH and PIE and what ingredients to look out for!
đ€ Video Breakdown:
0:00 Intro
1:03 Whatâs post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH)?
1:35 Whatâs post-inflammatory erythema (PIE)?
2:09 PIH vs PIE
3:15 Have PIH? Wear sunscreen
4:58 Niacinamide for PIH
6:15 Vitamin C for PIH
8:03 AHAs and chemical peels for PIH
9:29 retinoids for PIH
9:53 Azelaic acid for PIH
10:08 Licorice root, arbutin and kojic acid for PIH
13:42 PIE treatments
14:17 Vitamin C for PIE
15:11 Niacinamide for PIE
15:37 Azelaic acid and green tea for PIE
17:12 When to go to the dermatologist
17:40 Hydroquinone for PIH
18:12 Retinoids for PIH
18:42 Laser treatments - PiQo4 laser for PIH
19:10 Pulsed dye laser for PIE
đ Products mentioned*:
â«ïžSunscreen
Purito Comfy Water Sun Block (see my video on this sunscreen for the tea đđ” âą Can you trust your sun... )
â«ïžNiacinamide
The Ordinary 10% niaciamide + zinc 1% serum
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Paulaâs choice 10% niacinamide booster
shop-links.co/174041548067730...
Maelove NIA 10 calming serum
shop-links.co/174041548201349...
â«ïžVitamin C
Skinceuticals C, E, Ferulic serum
shop-links.co/174041548341341...
Timeless 20% C, E and Ferulic acid serum
shop-links.co/174041548551112...
Maelove Glow Maker Serum
shop-links.co/174041548496959...
Mad Hippie Vitamin C Serum
shop-links.co/174041548650002...
Dear klairs Freshly Juiced Vitamin C Drop
shop-links.co/174041548730736...
â«ïžAHAs
The Ordinary Glycolic Acid 7% Toning Solution
shop-links.co/174041548792120...
The Ordinary Lactic Acid 5% + hyaluronic acid serum
shop-links.co/174041548933648...
â«ïžLicorice Root
Acwell Licorice pH Balancing Cleansing Toner
shop-links.co/174041548936121...
â«ïžArbutin
The Ordinary Alpha Arbutin 2% + Hyaluronic Acid
â«ïžAzelaic acid
The Ordinary Azelaic Acid Suspension 10%
shop-links.co/174041548998709...
â«ïžGreen tea
Youth to the People Superfood Antioxidant Cleanser
shop-links.co/174041549153532...
â«ïžCombined Actives
Good Skin Days Câs the day serum
shop-links.co/174041549299381...
Obagi Clinical 10% Vitamin C with Arbutin serum
shop-links.co/174041549326102...
Peter Thomas Roth PRO Strength Niacinamide Discoloration Treatment
shop-links.co/174041549482334...
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www.aocd.org/page/Hyperpigmen...
doi.org/10.1038/jid.1966.119
simpleskincarescience.com/pie...
www.doctorxdentist.com/managi...
sciencebecomesher.com/topical...
www.dermstore.com/blog/top_te...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
jddonline.com/articles/dermat...
www.verywellhealth.com/post-i...
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www.jcasonline.com/article.asp...
www.allure.com/story/piqo4-la...
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What has helped you fade your post inflammatory discoloration? Share here!! đ
Can this be applicable anywhere on the body?? I have hyperpigmentation on my knees and a coiple of dark spots on my legs
Sudocrem help reduce inflammation and redness on any active pimples for me. I just use as a spot treatment especially if I pop a pimple (which I try not to do!)
@@dinoshkapawar851 no problem a ton de la nada nada que no me me guste a la gente y a mi mi ex ex novio y y me me now you a la gente de mi
I use the gel from the leaf of aloe vera. Iâve found if applied consistently every night for a week my inflammation decreases significantly and some scars almost disappear. Within a month my PIE on my chin and cheeks have disappeared using this.
My original skin color is black/ brown and also I have post inflammatory pigmentation which is dark brown color spots formed by acne and also I have pigmentations near my mouth and cheeks area, so I have been recommended to Alpha Arbutin, Azelaic Acid and Niacinamide by the ordinary team but I am a bit worried for a couple reasons where the first one is 1) will this product make my skin brighter in color because I only want to even up my skin tones and fade the pigmentations, and I donât want my face to be brighter than my body. 2) can the Alpha Arbutin and Azelaic acid and the Niacinamide make my skin darker after I stop using it as I already have a dark skin shade.
And my last question is, for how long should I keep using this products?? ( I donât want to stop using this products and face the same discoloration problem back again) and how should I stop using it ??
shes so educated just found out i have PIE and not PIH which is crazy cause I literally had it all wrong tysm
Me too!
me too!!
Omg samee
Same here! Do you mine me asking how you got it? I tried new skincare and broke out w cystic acne and it took awhile for it to go away stopped the skincare. And now Iv been stuck with these red marks all around my face and itâs like red around my cheek area đ so Iâm sure itâs PIE
@@britt840 Heyy I have the same issue as you personally I found our skin needs more hydration in those areas to heal and always make sure to wear SPF, if you feel like your skin there feels a little sensitive avoid exfoliating too much, I personally don't exfoliate in those areas cause it only makes the redness more intense! My biggest tip is hydration and the products that worked amazing for me were the Viche 89 Mineral serum or really any hyaluronic acid product I recommend applying it to damp skin! And I also use the nuetrogena water cream(kinda pricey but I love it)! Don't be afraid to exfoliate in those areas but just beware and do what works for you hope this helps!
your skin is flawless
i could barely pay attention to the video bc i was so entranced
Viktoriya Kovalchuk hahaha thanks bb!!! It was a journey! đ€Ł
This was incredibly well though out and helpful. Thank you! I finally realized I had PIE and now am trying to figure out the best route between my derm and the facialist. :)
LOVEEEE THESE LONG VIDEOS! So much good content!
So much informations here ! Itâs perfect to have all condensed in one video
hi Cathy! â€ïž loooove that i accidentally stumbled on your videos. you are so informative. i feel so motivated to take care of my skin âš
Thanks for speaking slowly. Some of these skincare peeps talk way too fast
This video was so useful in terms of information and product recommendation. I also love your relaxed presentation style. Thank you so much.
This was so helpful! Very clear and well organised advise! Thank you
Girl, are you new on CZcams, damn I'm glad I found you! You're gooood .
Yr my favorite skin care person on CZcams!! Sooooo helpful
I like watching you because you make things so easy to understand and I have for head bumps that Iâve been struggling with for over 2 years. They leave dark spot and everything Iâve used has not worked. I watched ur video on tiny bumps and I bought the Cerave Sa cleanser. I have brown skin so sometimes things are harder. But you have helped me and u deserve more subscribers. Your videos are so nicely set up too.
This is the most comprehensive video on the topic
Thank you so much . Youâre a great skincare CZcamsr! Helped me a lot
I love the chapters!
Also just found out I have PIE instead of PIH lol
Your channel is a skincare goldmine! I really appreciate the knowledge youâre passing on.
Thank you so much! Iâm so happy to hear youâre enjoying it đ„șđ
Iâm here just to admire her hair...
I love her soo much her voice is soo soothing and sweet like sheâs so cute đđđ
You deserve more attention!! I love your vids!!
i thought i had PIH & i literally have PIE,it's literally identical to the pictures,i feel so so much more knowledgable! i had roaccutane & doxycycline for my skin & ever since i stoppped ive had the redness so hopefully i can try some of this!đ
Hello update?
mf update pls
Iâve known that what I have is PIE for a while but I couldnât find that many resources about it and how to get rid of it. Thanks for this video!!
Thank you for this. I ended up using a lot of new skincare for the first time and broke out with cystic acne and I stopped but since then Iv had the red marks on my face for 4 mos now, Iâll def be trying what you said in the videos!
Howâs it going?
@@iridiancristina888 im curious too! i started breaking out out of no where and now both of my entire cheeks have red marks and still a bit of acne but since i found out i have PIE instead of PIH, i switched my routines.
@@itsgemi3180 i know its been a whole year later now, but how has it been going for you? im having the same exact crisis rn
You are the most beautiful woman I ever have seen . Thank you for the information and i learned a lot about my own skin. â€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïž
Loved this!!! Didnât know PIE was a thing đČ
Thanks so much for this! Very informative. Can't wait to try some of the product you recommended!
thank u đ. i watch your videos every now and then and they always are helpful
My acne/PIE started getting really bad due to picking my face, diet, stress and sun exposure. Iâm taking a pill my dermatologist prescribed to help reduce oil production since I have oily skin. I cut dairy out of my diet and created a skincare routine using cerave foaming face wash in the morning then moisturizer and sunscreen and nighttime youth to people green cleanser , ordinary niacinimide then moisturizer and my skin is visible looking better. Thank you for the advice, I can see a difference with my PIE!
How has your journey been
how is it now
PIH
1. Niacinamide 10% serums
2. Vitamin C serums
3. AHAs
4. Retinoids
5. Azelaic Acid
Also, natural:
1.1 Liquorice root
2.2 Arbutin
3.3 Kojic Acid
PIE
1. Vitamin C serums
2. Niacinamide
3. Azelaic Acid
4. Green Tea
Have u tried and did they work?
@@radhikasethi7356 I found Retinol a few times a week, AHA chemical peel once a week, Azelaic Acid 3-4 times a week, vitamin c serum for AM everyday has helped my marks a lot. The marks I had 2 weeks ago when I write this are almost invisible now, some are completely gone. Along with cleansing AM/PM and moisturiser PM and AM remembering to put on SPF đ§Ž
Sunscreen....
@@Elviladia Hello, i have a PIH mark left behind on my forehead from what i can assume was as pimple. I have tried a product called Zitsticka with no results, this mark has been with me for close to 6 months now and i get more and more insecure about it as time goes on, have you had any experience with this spots that have been around for months and months, i get embaressed to take my hat off as i am a very insecure person in general.
Youâre a life saver! I will be trying niacinamide and azelaic acid!
shes so underrateddddd đ«đ«đ«
I never knew i had PIE, thank you for making this really helped me!
You are a godsend. Thank you for this video, girl. You helped soooooo much đ
I know sheâs knows what sheâs talking about because of her gorgeous skin! đ
when you said get acne under control first đđ if only i knew how
A gentle cleanser, Paula's choice bha, a lightweight plus none dairy and sugar in my diet saved my life
The most cleared. Now, I'm fighting against a few pimples here and there and pie
@@a.personofficial i already tried that unfortunately. đ„ș
@@shimmerbeautyXO everything for a few months? :(
@@a.personofficial yes đ ive always had a low sugar, low alcohol, low dairy diet so that was easy. since posting ny OG comment, i started using a cleanser for sensitive skin instead of a SA cleanser and my skin is starting to look better. just gotta wait 2/3 months to know for sure
@@shimmerbeautyXO My skin is extremely reactive to sugar and diary like if I only eat one chocolate bar, I wake up with a new pimple next morning đ
Also my skin reacts really sensitive to CeraVe although everybody says how gentle it is...đ I started with krave beauty moisturizer plus cleanser and Paula's choice bha. These are the products that helped the most in MY experience. With the BHA I actually had results the next day. (Maybe you used the SA cleanser too often đ€ I started with bha by using it once a week and now I apply it every second/third day) Now I'm trying to add niacinamide into my routine with a toner (I'm from rice toner) and the ordinary serum and my skin cleans out even more
But I'm happy for you that your skin condition gets better đ„°
such an amazing video :)
and underrated channel i hope it gets more recognition
what if i still have acne but also have hyperpigmentation from previous pimples?
I think you may apply the product intented for treating pih on that spot only, "spot treat" as they call it..But generally, those ingr.are safe to be used on all of the face area..just don't use 2 or more actives on the same routine.Hope this helps..đđđ”đđ”đ
I think you may apply the product intented for treating pih on that spot only, "spot treat" as they call it..But generally, those ingr.are safe to be used on all of the face area..just don't use 2 or more actives on the same routine.Hope this helps..đđđ”đđ”đ
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@@michellefaurillo4026 the actives i use are niacinamide , retinol. Azelic acid
focus on curing the active acne before treating hyperpigmentation - otherwise your acne in most cases will come back and you will be back where you started
Thanks for educating me. I have really bad active acne and scarring. So i knew nothing but this will help me organise a good régimen to help assist in my problem.
tysm for this video! i have acne under control and donât really get new pimples but my skin is covered in both pie & pih, itâll take forever for the marks to fade bc i used to not do anything to protect my skin from the sun :( wish me luck hopefully theyâll fade by the end of the year
How did you get your acne under control? I'm suffering :(
Ive had PIE for about 2 years and it still hasnt faded. Im gonna start using products now
Did it work?
@@jadaaurie7696 omg really? For PIE? I have really REALLY bad PIE (like omfg) and Iâve been thinking abt this product. Did it work? What was your routine? Could I use The Ordinarys Niacinamide with it? Any purging?
@@itzash5499 I'm going to try it soon hopefully it fades
@@rrsava6808 did you get to try it yet? how does it work?
update pls
thanks for this videooooo omg!! love your content
youâre so underrated I love your videosâ€ïž im suffering from PIE any suggested products? I LOVE YOU ALL THE WAY FROM PHILIPPINES
Pran Priya thanks darling! Yes, I mention a lot of them in this video, and in my description if you want the TLDR; version đ„°đ„° love back from Canada!!
Same girl..2 weeks ago ko lang napanood mga videos nya..Galing nya! I'm a fun right away..
Love this video. I just found out everything that I bought was for PIH. Some were kind of expensive too
I thought I had PIH this whole time but I actually have PIE. đł thanks a bunch for the info
Thankyou for such a great video, there isn't much on this topic on youtube!
Aww thanks so much!! Let me know if thereâs anything else you want me to talk about!!
guys the comfy water leaves a bad white cast on my skin, get the purito centella one!
UPDATE: DONT GET PURITO CENTELLA LOL ITS BEEN PROVEN A SPF 19 NOT 50 đ
I am also using purito but when I heard its been proven that only have spf 19
im switching again to cosrx sunscreen
Get the one by la roche posay
Super helpful video! I'm a teen and I have no acne, however, I have PIE acne marks/scars. I would love to know how to develop a skincare routine for teens and to get rid of the acne marks. Can you please make a video about this? Thank you!!!
this video is a godsend, I am so grateful for you, do you have a Patreon or Kofi or something đ
Tysm for this info! Ily!
My original skin color is black/ brown and also I have post inflammatory pigmentation which is dark brown color spots formed by acne and also I have pigmentations near my mouth and cheeks area, so I have been recommended to Alpha Arbutin, Azelaic Acid and Niacinamide by the ordinary team but I am a bit worried for a couple reasons where the first one is 1) will this product make my skin brighter in color because I only want to even up my skin tones and fade the pigmentations, and I donât want my face to be brighter than my body. 2) can the Alpha Arbutin and Azelaic acid and the Niacinamide make my skin darker after I stop using it as I already have a dark skin shade.
And my last question is, for how long should I keep using this products?? ( I donât want to stop using this products and face the same discoloration problem back again) and how should I stop using it ??
I bought a bunch of the ordinary products and youâve mentioned most of it. đ€© hope it works for me
Did they work?đ
Same, but it hasn't come yet
Update us
@@Piriah5678 hy I purchased some of the ordinary products and it's been I think a week that I'm using them right now and I already can tell the difference in my skin my T zone is already not oily anymore bc of niasinamide
@@Piriah5678 hey! Itâs def working but slow. My acne reduces and acne scars are fading. đ i am using niacinamide, aha bha, glycolic acid, azelaic and alpha arbutin.
why are there no ads on this video? Seriously this video was great and I ended up purchasing some of the products you mentioned for PIH- which I didn't even know what to call before this video
Omg too bad that I discover this channel too late. This is indeed informative. Can I ask if Vit C can be use together with AHA? Thank youâșïž
Iâm always afraid of using vitamin c in the morning, cuz in the evening I either use aha + bha or azelaic acid from paulas choice. So my skin is thinner and more sensitive due to the acids. But I need vitamin c in my routine :( thank you for explaining everything so easily!
Did you got any vitamin C serum?
Great video! If you're a person of colour suffering with hyperpigmentation, I would say go for mandelic acid rather than glycolic acid. It''s much gentler than glycolic acid, whereas glycolic acid is much harsher and could cause irritation because of how vulnerable it makes your skin. They're both brilliant AHAs but mandelic acid is generally a better option for poc.
Good point! đ
Is mandelic acid the same as tranexamic acid?
@@Tarsh16 Omg Iâm sorry, I didnât see this. Mandelic acid is an AHA and exfoliates the skin whereas tranexamic acid actually targets the dark spots!! I hope this helps :)
Hi Cathy! What are your opinions on alpha arbutin for PIE? Pls respond â€ïž
i get suuuuuper super bad PIE and its so sad :( i dont pick at my pimples at all and i still scar no matter what! even the smallest pimples i get PIE
same, have you gotten rid of it yet? :(
Same, this facken sucks man pimples just turn into scars. Im just scared thry are permanent and i can never get smooth skin again
@@johnnyq9007 no đąđąđąđąđą
@@airhahsmihaf7501 yea itâs so annoying. Iâm boutta cop some vitamin C tho. Iâve been using The Good Molecule Discoloration serum and niacinimide toner and it cleared up my PIH extremely fast. Now itâs just time to treat my PIE
Ugh, I do, too! I started getting acne at 13 and still get it now at 35. Every single pimple leaves a red mark. I use tretinoin and take Spironolactone to try to help my hormonal acne.
So out of all the ingredients you mentioned which ones best for PIH? I recently bought The Ordinary Alpha Arbutin
i have PIH and i've had them for 4 years now...i don't think they're going away
I have alot of PIE and I use the AHA/BHA exfoliant and 1% retinol serum from the ordinary both twice a week. Glycolic acid toner an the niacinamide serum in my pm routine from the ordinary. Two times a day I use my neutrogena salicylic acid cleanser and I double moisturize with the Neutrogena anti pimple moisturizer and hyaluronic acid serum from the ordinary.
Omg đ±
Youâre so educated about skincare
I have Indian skin
I mean my skin is not entirely black or white
Itâs in between!
But today I looked closely that my dark spots are actually in pink & purple.
That means I have PIE đ€
Edit: I realised I have both pih & pie
Literally same!
i also have both pih and pie!! i just bought a full skincare routine that will hopefully work â€, iâm also taking pics for when i remember, which iâve already taken photos but iâll now do ones that actually show me during my journey :)
Your videos are simply the best!
Hii, can you use the azelaic serum from the ordinary in combination with the vitamine C serum from the ordinary?
Will Alpha Arbutin also help with PIE? It should convert to Hydroquinone on your skin as far as I know.
Wow you are so beautiful. Also I always thought I had pih and have been using the wrong things đą but now I know thank you đđœ
mariaaabts thank you đ„ș and yes I did the same thing for years so happy to hear that it helps!
Cathy on Skincare Iâm your 269th subscriber â€ïž you are so underrated love your videos and thank you so much for the information. Iâm on my journey to make my skin better
Thanks for that early support and Iâm so happy I can go on this journey with you!!! đ€©
Cathy on Skincare thank you so much â€ïž
I have tiny red marks that annoy me and take too long to clear. My dermatologist kept recommending bleaching products which irritates my skin and even told me fractional laser and didnât clear the marks and and only caused breakouts! after learning about PIE it makes my treatment so much easier.
Some laser are worse for pie and despigmentant products neighter, maybe acelaic acid
Needed this video. Thanks (:
Very informative, auto subscribe to your channel, love from Manila PH.
So informative đ
can you do a video on your thoughts on the dr. jarts tiger grass collection?
I believe I have combination skin of normal to oily, could I use the Paula 2% BHA on my skin? Or is that SOLELY for Oily skin?
2. Will the Paula 2% BHA Exfoliate help with Post Inflammatory Erythema? I believe I have PIE.
3. Will the exfoliate help with blackheads? I have a ton on my nose :/
thank you for the video, but i have a question how should i use vitamin c and niacinamide together??
Suggest a good sunscreen for oily acne skin..
omg thanks i found u here, i've been thinking what's best for my pie, can u please recommend me some skin care products that not too pricey:(?
i didn't know what should i do:( it's been a month and i still don't find a perfect skin care that will get rid of my acne, acne scars (redness, pie).
Wc is more effectiv for pinksh acne scars, vit c pr niacinamide?
what do you think about rose hip oil for PIH ?
still confused . the spots on the apples of my cheeks are reddish and the ones on my forehead are darker . do i have to use different products?
Thank you so much cathy i've learned a lot with this video, I have PIH and I know what to do now âșâșit was a pleasure
What type of Laser u suggest for PIE ???
She is an Angel
it was helpful but in which order can i use those things for the night (i have a cleanser, a moisturiser, the alpha arbutin thing, the niacinamide 10% and the lactic acid 5% (all from the ordinary)
can I use alpha arbutin on pie I always thought it was the same thing as pih
I love your voiceđ
omg i have been treating my skin wrong this entire timeđ€Żđ€Ż
Thank you for your video
why do you recommend mad hippie vit c for sensitive skin? What's in their ingredients or products that make it best for sensitive compared to like a CeraVe vit c?
can you make a video on best products/treatments for adult acne plz
Cure your acne, hyperacne, adult acne, melasma, pigmentations or hyperpigmentations with ayurveda treatment just contact me on 9265408163
So the product u mention in the video, do we have to Buy one of them or we have to buy all of them like if vitamin c then all products of vitamin c u mention in the video?? , reply plzzz.
your teeth are
so clean
can i have PIH if iâm very pale? as iâm tried the glass test but the marks donât disappear. or would u recommend i use products that work both for PIH and PIE? thanks :)
Anyone know which lip gloss she's using? It's so nice
no wonder Alpha Arbutin has not helped me so far, Iâve been using the wrong treatment :â)
Would the oredanairy vitamin C serum work for PIE?
Should I also wear sunscreen even if itâs just artificial lighting? Iâm worried that my LEDs are not helping with the process
Hi so I want to try a vitamin C but i have oily skin and acne prone skin. Any recommendations?
You are so cute! thanks for this vid :)
Luv you xx
Is it okay to use bha and kojic acid together in one skincare?
What if I got it from burning my skin? Which one should I use? Im a tourism student
I have both pink/ red and brown/ dark spots from acne what should I do in this case?
i loove this!
just found out that i have PIE and still have small inflamed acne on my cheeks, wonder which products good for calming the skin?
tried hyaluronic acid and centella, it's fine but i want to reduce the redness.
Yeaahh centella asiatica reduce redness! The product i recommend is skin 1004 madagascar centella ampoule and be plain ampoule. Hydrate ur skin (hyaluronic issa good choice) and repair ur skin barrier. A good ingredients for skin barrier is ceramide, cica, snail, hyaluronic acid, and centella asiatica also could help! I think the key of good skin barrier is hydrated skin anyways ;)