BNC#6: Frans Cronje Q&A - Embracing SA's inevitable coalition future
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- During his Q&A session at BNC#6 in Hermanus, Frans Cronje discussed the shifting landscape of South African politics, emphasising the inevitability of coalition governance. He highlighted the decline of ANC dominance, suggesting a future where no single party holds executive control. Cronje underscored the importance of private actors navigating this transition for societal progress. Despite concerns, he believes in the resilience of institutions against worst-case scenarios, advocating for policies fostering economic growth and certainty to unlock business investment.
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I like frans and his optimistic approach. I will say the worst coalition would be eff/ anc. God is in control
What about ANC and EFF and MK with 2 thirds majority coalition?
@@craig6924 All the greedy self-serving "patriots " in one group ?
@@craig6924add in BFLF, GOOD and a few other slimy opportunists...
It's possible, and it's horrible.
Especially as Frans says, polling numbers can change VERY quickly.
Even then, those megalomaniacs will probably not be capable of working together (think back to the EFF recently blocking the latest attempt by the ANC at EWC.)
Frans's thesis is that the ANC EFF coalition would destroy each other. He mentions it here, but went into more detail a while back.
That's embarrassing
It would be sad
19:33 - That's a fucking FANTASTIC question and one I have wondered about myself. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Many of the changes are already taking place. The Government is becoming more and more of a non-entity, and the man/woman in the street is putting their heads down and doing their jobs and looking after their families. Ramaphosa has for some time time been a non-entity. He and his cadres might still be looting and pilfering, but seems to have less and less of an effect on the population.
At 13:22 + very true! But Cronje change his opinion more than a politician - about 12-18 months ago he was one of those prescribing a "government of national unity"
If your opinion does not change to account for new information. You are likely not flexible enough. What Zuma did has made all of us question our beliefs and opinions concerning the future of South Africa. I for one am optimistic that this will force competition and foster competence in our politicians.
You want to know what will happen after the 29th May 2024 and the future after that day…wait and see because nobody knows😮
Another reason the ANC will go to coalition with the DA is that the remainder of their constituency after the MK took all the radical voters is ideologically closer to the DA and less radical.
I'd like to believe that but I'm not too sure that it is true.
I would be a lot more in favour of a DA and ANC coalition if, and only if, the ANC gets rid of ALL their bad apples first. We know who they are. Everyone does thanks to the taxpayer-funded Zondo Commission.
in a coalition give the DA the Ministries of Finance, SOE + Police and the country will be a massively better place in a few short years
@@lm_b5080 There's no WAY the ANC gives up those ministries. They'd get Sports, Arts and Culture, Science and Innovation, Tourism, etc, etc.
ANC EFF and MK by end if the day are one
Remember; Dr Verwoerd said that South Africa's future is not decided within the country but by international forces.
The question is which international think tank or lobby group as a shield to a foreign government(s) pull the strings and pay-off or buy politicians and voters.
Is America and its Allies or Russia and China or India going to have the deciding and winning hand in this election.
Whatever happen the international powers will make it difficult for us as South Africans if either or any of the powers backed the loosing horse.
Not so much India but definitely China Russia and America/G7 nations are definitely role players,who still has the will to exploit South Africa,squeeze the last juices of the fruits we have left.
Nonsense
I so agree with this summary of the future
And it’s leading the world again -to a new world order
How does Gaytons decision to form an Alliance with the ANC effect this oitlook?
As a person of color who is a conservative Christian, he lost my vote i have to give it to vryheidsfront or NCC NOW
@@chicargo.Ff+🎉
@@chicargo.The NCC is a front for the ANC!!
@@tonitappous2422 lol ok now i know
Just a question for anyone who can help. When we say "the youth", what age group is that ?
Young people to about 30
Maybe, if, I think, possibly… screw that, take responsibility for your own future and don’t leave it in the hands of other people (who do not have your best interest in mind) and the realm of “wishful thinking “.
One can buy any of these liberal politicians who have no interest in the nation but their own pockets. HOPE FOR SA AND OHM are the only politicians with principles.
Rennies to the rescue…
Look how many new parties has popped up from previous members of political parties which seems to fail SA every time we vote for it new parties are only small if people dont support them vote for new parties with fresh new and current ideas and solutions
To help them grow to become bigger the anc is not the problem the electoral system is responsible for SA's downfall
News flash... Mexico is in NORTH America, NOT South....
I’m not excited about the emerging markets here. It’s still 1000000 miles behind what it would have been. If it was anything, you wouldn’t want your investments to be foreign investments. The question is- how to destroy all notions of communism and socialism? Then you can get excited…
Pmg is the alpha and the omega,simply put the pie must grow ,cutting thinner slices only works for so long,rsa needs big fat pies,the more the better,eskom was our biggest pie,therefore these current goons cant be allowed anywhere near the bakery,havnt we all learnt this by yet if not its goodnight sweetest rsa,very interesting times,there is too much money being abused,no bang out of our zar,its flat,good for some but not for others,petrol price is one indicator,not bright way forward
Draadsitter this guy...changes his goalposts frequently!
I've watched this again. His scenario projections were spot on.
Ek kan nie ander doen nie. Ek weet suid afrika party politieke speel altyd.
Who will risk his money in a unkown ibiss of grey
People with money have it because they are not stupid
Those willing to operate like gangsters do eligal stuff will do well for power vacuums wil be filled by dishonest men
Anc did not create jobs by investors and you guys want to battle these give and take situation s.
Would it be harsh to say these are heads of businesses wanting to hear good news about the future? ....and he is telling them what they want to hear. Im no expert but I think the lost ANC support reflected in the polling is simply the proportion of the population who think like the breakaway far left faction in the ANC, rather than disaffected moderate supporters. ANC 42% + MK (ex ANC) 13% = 55% (close to what the ANC achieved in the 2019 election).....Im not convinced the political system works as he says.
Same but I think it is manageable
Thats a whole lot of B.S.
@@pleaseandthankyou4161 Why would I be scared of a pipe dream. Let me tell you what you should be scared of that's gonna happen very soon. Land will be expropriated without compensation and South Africa will be a socialist state meaning the government will have a monopoly on the South African economy just like how China has done in there country. All that I mentioned will happen starting after this years elections.
It turns out he was on something
@@emmanuelrufai6471 and what is that? That he is on?
@@wahwah7701 oh sorry. That was a typo. I meant he was onto something. After all, things seem to be playing out the way he said they would, well for the most part anyways
Yes, Frans. The coalition future of ANC/EFF/MK is very embraceable...
yes it is for the ones that is brain dead and most of them are..
Real life animal farm 😂
I'm afraid that I am finding Frans Cronje and many other top political analysts in the country rather annoying. Firstly, the laid-back and almost ultra-calm approach exhibited by them borders on absurd, because the picture facing South Africa is a dystopian one. Anyone who doesn't live in a fantasy bubble just has to travel around urban areas, and one will see the hopelessness of many people on the streets, who are jobless and hungry and desperate. It is soul-destroying to see. There is dysfunctionality just about everywhere, and this extends into the private sector too now. Even companies that we expect far higher standards from are showing their blatant inefficiency and mismanagement. Most of us in the middle class know of many people including family and friends who have emigrated overseas, taking with them their skills and wealth. Coalition governments are not silver linings at all, unless the coalition partners all have strong similar values and respect agreements. All we see is much back-stabbing and bickering between coalition partners. Lastly, and this is the most depressing aspect of all, I see many people who should display common sense by fully supporting the Democratic Alliance (DA)100%, beating up on the only party worth defending in South Africa under this toxic climate. The DA is the only party to truly embrace diversity and non-racialism, whereas all the other parties are fully aware of their main identities. For example, the Freedom Front Plus is focused on the Afrikaner identity and the Afrikaans language and culture. Other examples include: the ACDP and its Christian identity, which is averse to LGBT+ people's rights (not to mention that their are many different religions in the country), the Patriotic Alliance concentrating on the Coloured vote, both Inkatha and MK focused on the Zulu identity, and the EFF making no apologies for their devotion to black people's rights above anything else. It is crystal clear to anybody with a shred of sense, that the Democratic Alliance is the only political party that is truly inclusive of just about everybody, and has the most sensible outlook for the country. However, it gets very little credit for the good things it has achieved in the Western Cape and elsewhere. The chattering classes would rather beat up on the DA, but make no mistake, if the DA were to vanish overnight, South Africa would become a hellhole!
What’s the reason the DA hasn’t stopped gangs and gang violence on CT?
Frans had a sober grip on realities until three or four years ago (check out "Every South African Needs To Watch This" on CZcams), when he suddenly changed his tune and was talking as recently as last about how the opposition parties were going to come to South Africa's rescue ("Optimistic that SA economy is on brink of post-ANC rejuvenation" on YT), and now he's saying that South Africans should learn to live with a bunch of socialists in charge and state-proof ourselves in enclaves and they can live great lives.
He's a joke.
It's obvious you know very little of da corruption.
@@ianmunro82 Crime is a countrywide problem. The buck stops with the ruling party, and their useless Minister of Police. Furthermore, I live in an ANC dominated area, and crime is worse here! Stop deflecting, and distorting the truth.
@@ianmunro82 The national government is in charge of policing?
His views are far too optimistic....this country is heading for a big crash!....
Stu, you delight in pessimism, don't you?
What a dimwit!
Frans Cronje is dreaming - hope for the best but prepare for the worst. There is no future for SA in my opinion.
Time for you to go to Canada where they will tell you how to love your life.
South Africa is not a country or a nation! It has never been!
South Africa's 12 ethnic nations have been forcefully united in 1909 by Britain after they subjected the 2 Afrikaner republics (ZAR, OFS) as result of the Anglo - Boer war, which they waged in order to controll the vast gold reserves.
The prevailing ethnic and social diversity need to be accommodated in a new federal system with local 'buy in' where every nation must 'feel' in charge of their own destiny.
Governance must be decentralized to local communities in order to cater for diverse needs and cultural values.
The alternative will be civil war between ethnic groups.
A canton system will probably be best to reduce ethnic friction.
Additional to government decentralization, SA needs to 'demonitize' politics to contain the current destructive political rivalry because the costs, monetary and politically, for taxpayers, is untenable.
Replace 90% of the overpaid, (unskilled) politicians with apolitical, skilled administrators.
When the government size is reduced by 50%, then corruption will by default be reduced accordingly.
Gayton for President and Frans as VP, for the next 8 years. So close yet so far😅
You want another gangster for President ?
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub🤐
Ex , reformed , who talks from the trenches , others speak from lush podiums . Came from poverty ,maybe his intentions are noble , who knows a dictatorial party might what this country needs to rise up from the ashes
@@conradrichards3363 Reformed or fake ?
Has he admitted all his crimes or just the ones he got convicted of ?
Has he ever directly apologised to the people that he harmed ?
Has he paid compensation for the damage and trauma that he has caused ?
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub may he who is without sin cast the 1st stone
.bet that will be gis retort
Load of crap