BTW as a 4000 hour flight instructor, never put the flaps down when the airspeed is above the white arc on the airspeed indicator. That's what the white arc indicates; flap operating speed..
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 He meant 1000 ft MSL (Mean Sea Level) at his call out. When he was on the ground the altimeter reading was 750ft MSL which means when he called out 1000ft, he was at 250ft AGL (Above Ground Level). Approach airspeed for a precision/non-precision approach is 90kts. Non-Precision approach power setting: RPM roughly at 1600 RPM and 750 FPM descent rate. Landing airspeed is 60-70kts in a 172.
@@AssyrianKing4ever Are you sure? All the lessons (real life CFIs as well as some x plane vids) i've seen have an approach at about 65-70kts at most, then idle power above runway and land at stall speed (45kts or so, depending on weight/flaps). 90 is very fast and landing at 70 too fast. It seems odd to call out 1000MSL and not AGL e.g. if the runway is 2000MSL why would you call 1000MSL?
@@AssyrianKing4ever yeah a little check and you're a bit off with your numbers. 70kts is a standard and widely quoted approach speed, touch down ranges 55kts down to 45kts on average. altitude callouts should be made with reference to ground level, so you would call 1000AGL and definitely not MSL (as i pointed out, MSL makes no sense for landing phase). So the approach in this video seems a bit off, it did seem way too fast...
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 I gotta correct myself there, normal approach airspeed is 60-70kts. In real flight, we cut the power to idle close to the runway threshold and depending on the winds adjust with the throttle. Here is why I said 90kts for the approach airspeed. GPS approach is a non-precision so when in IMC with low ceilings you wanna keep your airspeed at 90kts down to your minimums so you can execute the missed approach. If you break out before your minimums, great. Also, as far as callouts go, I was taught 1000 above mins, 100 above, and Minimums. He may not have had any IFR training.
For anyone asking why this doesn’t work on the newer version, you have to set the auto pilot to NAV, APR, and GS and it will guide you in both horizontally and vertically. I usually only put it on APR GS when I’m on the final approach.
Thanks! Great amount of info, as I was having a rough time learing the GPS. I Could select where I was going but no vectors to land. You were a great help.
Hi thanks Jason,I am a slow learner but your teaching is cool,you don't talk like a auctioneer,and I am actually learning at a faster rate,cheers mate.
Excellent!!! Learned two things I was doing wrong. Not selecting vectors and activating the approach to soon Lol.... Thank you for the great video ✈️✈️
Again, great job and couple of points for safety: using ground speed as a reference on approach can kill you. Always use IAS, indicated airspeed. As a personal habit, I like to disengage the autopilot a little higher. Taking your eyes off the approach that close to the ground and possibly pushing the wrong button could be trouble.
C172:- Use 65 knots as recommended approach speed for full flap (90kts is Maximum for 15 degrees or less if possible; ie. never apply f15 over 90kts) & once over runway, slowly lift nose to burn off speed trying to keep aircraft just above runway but level then very slow sink from say 20 feet (but don't balloon) letting the aircraft sink nose up until ground contract ideally as stall warning screech begins. Flapless approaches at about 80kts in heavy crosswind only, then kick rudder opposed to wind to stop weathercocking & wing low aileron into wind to keep wind side wing down. [Actual Pilot]. :-)
@@svtpete83 . Thanks. yes. So long ago now. in the nineteen sixties and early seventies when I did most of my C172 c182, c150, C210 flying, I did lots of 'for fun' night circuits at a very dark rural grass aerodrome north of Melbourne (4 million then)Vic Australia. Although not too far out of this big city, take offs & landings into the north were usually 'black' as they faced a 3 thousand foot mountain a few miles ahead, whereas going south the city lights seemed extreme. I recall, one thing in circuits was on passing the runway threshold whilst going downwing, was to immediately turn base & on 172s, pull off power, applying pitot heat whilst trimming so a glide at 60 knots as those oldies (nearly new planes then) allowed 40 degree flaps. the entire approach was at 60kts with a bit of judicious power at times. One memorable night, the guy in fromt of me was flying a C150, & as I turned final & called 'called final' the 'speaker' squealed as the C150 ahead called 'MAYDAY' at the same time! He ended up on the boundary road with no more than a bent nosewheel & a cut leg (due to hasyy exit). The C150's engine was so small, that the carby heat 'blanket' failed and iced up due to the long glide on a cool night. it made history, as every C150 on earth was subsequently modified to alleviate this problem. But, yeah. I loved the 40degrees on the C172 because a good pilot could land in a very short distance. i heard that Cessna went to 30degrees to save law suits from 'newbie' pilots & others who Cessna felt couldn't handle 'flaps 40'. You have to remember that the GA fleet of lighties was then being marketed as a car alternative, (laugh) so an absence to head sets! I'm nearly deaf as a result.
@@letsseeif also this X-plane 11 fellow is too high and fast on final.Folks do themselves a HUGE favor by learning to hand fly land taildraggers 1st,then switch to Tri-gears. I got some time on cubs , champs, and citabria. Next is the Pitts. I'm looking forward to that
@@williamleadbetter9686. You're right as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Melbourne (Vic0 Aussie and learnt @ 17yo in1957 on on DH-82 Tiger Moth biplanes. Also did lots on DHC Chipmunks and Austers. ALL were tail wheel (or skid) and the art of good three pointers was invaluable. Usual approach (full glide with Handley Page leading edge slats (top staggered forward wing) was 58 knots, but we were also taught "Precautionary Approaches" at 45knots indicated - long low almost flat approaches for short fields (Tiger Moths had NO BRAKES). Rather 'nose up', these were power on until over threshold at which point just above the surface, one cut the throttle & it sunk onto the grass (they had no tail wheel, just a directional skid). 'Ag Pilots' & people like me used this technique on v short fields. After the Tiger, Chipmunks were LOOXURY 'cos they had tail wheels & differential brakes for stops & steering. I noted then that airlines pilots routinely did three pointers in DC3's, up through DC6B's & other big planes as a lower airframe stress landing. (except as in Tiger Moths, a (level) wheel landing (ie. level) (not 3 pointer) were the go in heavy wind with airliners. I note that all rebuilt old airliners routinely do "fly on level" these days, maybe because pilots never learnt 3 pointers, but probably not to damage someone's pride & joy. :-)
yes, 61-65kt. It was a nice tutorial film. But landing speed was odd. Pass threshold at 86 and touchdown at 76... That is high speed. It should bounch or something. I will ignore that part because approach was the topic at hand
FYI all, the current version of Xplane there are a couple of steps that are not shown I think. Like GPS steering, and using heading bug when you hit approach in GPS etc. I will create a video this week consolidating a few tutorials including this one (which is great) for knowledge transfer.
After trying this a few times I could not get my plane to connect with the glide slope and auto descend. I tried a few approach options messing with altitude and speed but could not get it to work Then I read the S-TEC 55 AP Manual. It appears you need to hit the Alt button a second time to engage the GS. Not sure if it's due to an older version of the Auto Pilot or me not doing something right, but it's working now. Great video. Very informative. I do suggest everyone read through the manuals under the Cessna 172SP folder. I found some other nice tidbits of information in the Garmin G530 manual as well. AE
Great presentation .just in real life flaps are extended withing the white line of the airspeed indicator. To prevent flaps structural damage. Could cause a spin. But great tutorial.
One recommendation I would make is for you to land the plane as close as possible to the stall speed. Your main mounts should touchdown before the nose wheel, and try to keep the nose wheel of the runway for as long as possible. Let aerodynamics lower the nose wheel and not by relaxing (yoke or stick control going forward) the elevator control.
@@galoon Most of these people have never heard about the types of landing accidents caused by strong cross winds and excessively hight touch down speeds as the pilots tries to force the aircraft onto the ground. Here is a good video (second landing) on a pilot porpoising down the runway in a Piper Cherokee 140 that rips of the nose wheel. .
You are Great, you explain nicely and understandably how to set GPS, but most people with LAZINESS, do not show how to set GPS and insert Plan. that are LAZZY and
Helpful video, thanks for this and other X-Plane videos you've done!. Just after you activated the APProach button on the autopilot, you went to an extended exterior view. We missed the critical point at which the GPS and AP captured the glide path and the plane started descending. I have had a lot of trouble getting that to happen with this LPV approach. Very frustrating. I've read the S-Tec manual and tried repeated attempts to get vertical guidance using the APP or even the ALT pressed twice. Neither work. If anyone has any thoughts, please comment. Thanks.
Question: Can you use the default ATC plus GPS approach together? ATC might come in handy if you're at an un-familiar airport and have to taxi...Just asking...Thanks for all the great tutorials...
Thank you for the tutorial! QUESTION: As soon as I hit APR button, it starts flying towards HEADING even if there is no HDG button pressed. On display it says NAV APR GS?
Hey, nice vids. I have watched a few of yours now. I think you do a good job, but there's one thing wrong in this vid. Man, you don't lower flaps at that speed, or you will do structural damage to the aircraft. And in the new XP11, you can actually tear them off of the aircraft. I would suggest looking at the section on speeds of the aircraft, which goes over all of the archs and colors of the speed indicator instrument. Other than that nice vid.
As usual, Jason in a very good teacher, I believe the best for virtual air navigation! In this case I have not been able to replicate the video because when I reach the last leg and I push APR, the plane turns unexpectedly on the right and lose definitely the right route to the final approach. I know the video is using an old version of autopilot, but I have have not been able to do the same with the new current version. Did someone do it?
Hi Jason, great tutorial. I am new to xplane and have tried to follow what you do on screen, but my plane misses the way point. Any idea what l may be doing wrong?
Hi Jason, I have a question about using the default atc or even 124th atc and the Garmin 530. all of the videos i see, i see them open up the atc put a few way points in then start the flight with ATC guiding them all the way. But i have yet to see a video of someone using a Cessna with a garmin 530 and having them use the GPS for the flight plan that they put in. Is there a video like that out there? can some one explain to me?
Hi Jason just came across your site and I would like to ask as a complete novice what I really need to start flying thanks in advance for any help from you.
Ive tried Vectors to Final several times now from KDFW to KDAL just as a warmup. The first leg, instead of going to wp Myles, it flies away from it bearing 313. Only way I can go toward the wp and DAL is to hit REV on my autopilot. Got to be a simple mistake im making somewhere.
Lots of things I would change about the video itself. Including zooming in the GPS each time to close to full screen. Most people dont watch these things on widescreen PC screens anymore lol
@@earlglover6091 I said MOST PEOPLE. And I know thats an accurate perception because, this is how people made videos 20 years ago, when I spent hours in front of my pc. And there was no tablets or smart phones. Everyone did.... *back then* But I feel ya lol
Agreed. I presume he just switched from NAV to GPS to activate?? Also, he activates the approach before taking off, because the last waypoint is so close to the runway.....so, what if the last waypoint is farther away from the runway?? I guess you go back into your GPS and activate the approach while you pass your last waypoint??
Another wonderful lesson but there is a problem. In using the updated X-Plane auto pilot this procedure does not work. If GPS is on and the NAV on AP is set, the plane seems to want to head in the approach direction as soon as it starts on the runway, and then runs away. I have tried various other options and cannot get the approach vector to work, It does not head for the target airport. Clearly there is some different way with the new auto pilot and I have not been able to figure it out. Hoping Jason can help.
I had the same problem. I think that you need to activate KDPA when you take off, engage GPS at an appropriate height, then activate the approach leg. Then it navigates correctly.
Thanks, I great for gps instruction ! but never put your flaps down at that speed in a real 172. And flair your landing s . land on the rear wheels and keep the nose wheel off the ground as long as possible. The stall warning should come on as you touch down
Jason I been following this video to get me 530 to follow thru what you did , step by step . I guess I should ask being I see this video back in 2017 , and my XPlane11 is 11.40 , which maybe 530 now does not follow these steps ? Is this true?? Dale
Hi again, I've done that a few times now, works fine, but if I try the same plan but instead of choosing vectors I choose the ILS approach via BOWEN I find that when it starts the turn at BOWEN the GPS keeps turning itself off and the plane heads off in some random direction. Any ideas what I need to do (or not do) to stop it please? Many thanks, Steve
Hi Jason, @11:40, the "VS" on your Autopilot isn't activated anymore. Did you turn this off or did the plan this by itself because of the approach button that's turned on? When I try this, only lateral navigation works. On the CDI instrument, only the vertical is moving. The horizontal needle is always centered. It looks like there is no vertical "assist". What could be the reason for this? I can see the glideslope on the map for the runway I'm landing on and position of my Cessna.
Kind of late in the game for X Plane (version .40 here) but what exactly are you clicking on (I hear an audible click in the video but dont see you move your cursor) to "Activate" the gps for the approach. Sorry if its a silly question, but I just cant seem to get the 530 to set up for my approach. Im flying into KAUS from KEDC. Its only about 13nm's.
Jason, I need to use the GPS steering to track the Approach. Also, when I am on final and push in the APR button the plane veers off course. All is good up to that point. What am I doing wrong that causes the plane to go off course? Thank you, Ray
When you press Enter to open the ATC, it will ask for the Departure AP, Arrival AP, and flight level. That is enough to let the ATC make it's own flight plan. However, you can use the box below to enter in waypoints to fly your own flight plan.
2 years later and the AP works more like the real Garmin now. I like the AP better but I fly real aircraft too. The old AP was too automatic and could have caused some bad habits to form.
Thank you for this tutorial. It is very helpful. I did try to follow along and things went well. But I noticed my plane followed the GS correctly but stayed a bit to the right of the Localizer needle. Yours were perfect. I tried approaches at different locations but the plane always stayed right of the Localizer. I generally take over and land manually when I am close in. Is there something I am doing wrong or do I need to make some adjustments to my instruments/settings? Thanks
Set the Heading Bug to the same number as the runway number you're approaching. When the approach button is pressed you can make small tweaks to the runway center through incremental adjustments. Also ensure you have set NAV1 to the ILS frequency of the runway. Even small deviations to a frequency setting can throw you off. Worked for me, but have not tried this with Jason's GPS approach, only in an straight ILS approach. Good luck.
Matteo Benedetto Manini Yes GPS approach works. I believe the autopilot just works differently than it does in Jason’s tutorial here. Moving the heading bug to the approach course heading does the trick.
i don't get something .. at 4:05 you say that the GPS is activated but it was already on at the start of the vid. does one enter Alt for 1100 ft in the ap panel? please clarify i would appreciate it. Thanks if some one can help.
Thanks f you great videos, but I could not find the video where you enter a complete flight plan. New to X Plane 11 but used FXS for long time about 100 hours.
No he's not and what he did if in a real plane would have damaged the flaps. He extended them above the Ne speed for Fe. 85 kts is the maximum Fe speed.
Dear Jason, at 4:00min you activated your GPS using a button from your joystick, could you explain how you mapped this function to the specific joystick button? What is the function called? Thank you!
BTW as a 4000 hour flight instructor, never put the flaps down when the airspeed is above the white arc on the airspeed indicator. That's what the white arc indicates; flap operating speed..
when he said "we're at 1000ft" he was actually at 250ft right? and is 90kts way too fast in the 172? i thought 60-70 would be more like it. thanks
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 He meant 1000 ft MSL (Mean Sea Level) at his call out. When he was on the ground the altimeter reading was 750ft MSL which means when he called out 1000ft, he was at 250ft AGL (Above Ground Level). Approach airspeed for a precision/non-precision approach is 90kts. Non-Precision approach power setting: RPM roughly at 1600 RPM and 750 FPM descent rate. Landing airspeed is 60-70kts in a 172.
@@AssyrianKing4ever Are you sure? All the lessons (real life CFIs as well as some x plane vids) i've seen have an approach at about 65-70kts at most, then idle power above runway and land at stall speed (45kts or so, depending on weight/flaps). 90 is very fast and landing at 70 too fast. It seems odd to call out 1000MSL and not AGL e.g. if the runway is 2000MSL why would you call 1000MSL?
@@AssyrianKing4ever yeah a little check and you're a bit off with your numbers. 70kts is a standard and widely quoted approach speed, touch down ranges 55kts down to 45kts on average. altitude callouts should be made with reference to ground level, so you would call 1000AGL and definitely not MSL (as i pointed out, MSL makes no sense for landing phase). So the approach in this video seems a bit off, it did seem way too fast...
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 I gotta correct myself there, normal approach airspeed is 60-70kts. In real flight, we cut the power to idle close to the runway threshold and depending on the winds adjust with the throttle.
Here is why I said 90kts for the approach airspeed. GPS approach is a non-precision so when in IMC with low ceilings you wanna keep your airspeed at 90kts down to your minimums so you can execute the missed approach. If you break out before your minimums, great.
Also, as far as callouts go, I was taught 1000 above mins, 100 above, and Minimums. He may not have had any IFR training.
For anyone asking why this doesn’t work on the newer version, you have to set the auto pilot to NAV, APR, and GS and it will guide you in both horizontally and vertically. I usually only put it on APR GS when I’m on the final approach.
I wasn’t sure about „Vectors“. Now I know it and have to thank you very much. You did a great job.
Great tutorial. I always admire those that do tutorials.
jason, good videos. is there a hotkey to turn off autopilot like fsx? and how change altitude without using vsi knob?
This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for.
I've been flying to radio ils only so knowing this will make a huge difference to me :))
Absolute perfect Lesson on using the GPS for approach - clear and Precise! thanks so much Mike
Thanks! Great amount of info, as I was having a rough time learing the GPS. I Could select where I was going but no vectors to land. You were a great help.
Wow your videos are awesome, simple and in-depth explanation. Thank you.
Very clear and concise tutorial, much better than some much longer ones!
Hi thanks Jason,I am a slow learner but your teaching is cool,you don't talk like a auctioneer,and I am actually learning at a faster rate,cheers mate.
That was great thanks, particularly the little recap at the end, many thanks!
Thanks for the video Jason. I think I'm finally going to give xplane a try.
Thanks. This worked as advertised and I’m glad that I finally found an easy solution to flying approaches and landings using GPS.
That was great Jason, easy to follow and got me up and running. Thank you.
I love your tutorial..
There is a detailed explanation in the last video, making me very understand ..
Excellent!!! Learned two things I was doing wrong. Not selecting vectors and activating the approach to soon Lol....
Thank you for the great video ✈️✈️
Great tutorial regarding the use of the system. I'm always learning from your videos.
Dude. You are a GREAT teacher--probably the best flight teacher I have seen. Thank you for this.
Except for the broken flaps, nose gear damage, and added wear and tear in the engine from high RPM.
...great.....thanks, is very helpful....Bruno from Switzerland
Stumbled across this video after getting sucked into the "You Tube Vortex". Thank you so much. It has enlightened me...
Great tutorial. Excellent, thank you. Antonio from Brazil.
Thank you, enjoyed your tutorial !
You brokeded the flaps
Yep he did
Thanks for posting this video. Very informative for me.
I appreciate the video!
Very helpful, thank you!
super helpful my man!
Again, great job and couple of points for safety: using ground speed as a reference on approach can kill you. Always use IAS, indicated airspeed. As a personal habit, I like to disengage the autopilot a little higher. Taking your eyes off the approach that close to the ground and possibly pushing the wrong button could be trouble.
C172:- Use 65 knots as recommended approach speed for full flap (90kts is Maximum for 15 degrees or less if possible; ie. never apply f15 over 90kts) & once over runway, slowly lift nose to burn off speed trying to keep aircraft just above runway but level then very slow sink from say 20 feet (but don't balloon) letting the aircraft sink nose up until ground contract ideally as stall warning screech begins. Flapless approaches at about 80kts in heavy crosswind only, then kick rudder opposed to wind to stop weathercocking & wing low aileron into wind to keep wind side wing down. [Actual Pilot]. :-)
In an R or S model 172 you can deploy 10 degrees of flaps at 105. 85 for 20 and 30. I don’t think flaps 15 degrees are an option...
@@svtpete83 . Thanks. yes. So long ago now. in the nineteen sixties and early seventies when I did most of my C172 c182, c150, C210 flying, I did lots of 'for fun' night circuits at a very dark rural grass aerodrome north of Melbourne (4 million then)Vic Australia. Although not too far out of this big city, take offs & landings into the north were usually 'black' as they faced a 3 thousand foot mountain a few miles ahead, whereas going south the city lights seemed extreme. I recall, one thing in circuits was on passing the runway threshold whilst going downwing, was to immediately turn base & on 172s, pull off power, applying pitot heat whilst trimming so a glide at 60 knots as those oldies (nearly new planes then) allowed 40 degree flaps. the entire approach was at 60kts with a bit of judicious power at times. One memorable night, the guy in fromt of me was flying a C150, & as I turned final & called 'called final' the 'speaker' squealed as the C150 ahead called 'MAYDAY' at the same time! He ended up on the boundary road with no more than a bent nosewheel & a cut leg (due to hasyy exit). The C150's engine was so small, that the carby heat 'blanket' failed and iced up due to the long glide on a cool night. it made history, as every C150 on earth was subsequently modified to alleviate this problem. But, yeah. I loved the 40degrees on the C172 because a good pilot could land in a very short distance. i heard that Cessna went to 30degrees to save law suits from 'newbie' pilots & others who Cessna felt couldn't handle 'flaps 40'. You have to remember that the GA fleet of lighties was then being marketed as a car alternative, (laugh) so an absence to head sets! I'm nearly deaf as a result.
@@letsseeif also this X-plane 11 fellow is too high and fast on final.Folks do themselves a HUGE favor by learning to hand fly land taildraggers 1st,then switch to Tri-gears. I got some time on cubs , champs, and citabria. Next is the Pitts. I'm looking forward to that
@@williamleadbetter9686. You're right as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Melbourne (Vic0 Aussie and learnt @ 17yo in1957 on on DH-82 Tiger Moth biplanes. Also did lots on DHC Chipmunks and Austers. ALL were tail wheel (or skid) and the art of good three pointers was invaluable. Usual approach (full glide with Handley Page leading edge slats (top staggered forward wing) was 58 knots, but we were also taught "Precautionary Approaches" at 45knots indicated - long low almost flat approaches for short fields (Tiger Moths had NO BRAKES). Rather 'nose up', these were power on until over threshold at which point just above the surface, one cut the throttle & it sunk onto the grass (they had no tail wheel, just a directional skid). 'Ag Pilots' & people like me used this technique on v short fields. After the Tiger, Chipmunks were LOOXURY 'cos they had tail wheels & differential brakes for stops & steering. I noted then that airlines pilots routinely did three pointers in DC3's, up through DC6B's & other big planes as a lower airframe stress landing. (except as in Tiger Moths, a (level) wheel landing (ie. level) (not 3 pointer) were the go in heavy wind with airliners. I note that all rebuilt old airliners routinely do "fly on level" these days, maybe because pilots never learnt 3 pointers, but probably not to damage someone's pride & joy. :-)
yes, 61-65kt. It was a nice tutorial film. But landing speed was odd. Pass threshold at 86 and touchdown at 76... That is high speed. It should bounch or something. I will ignore that part because approach was the topic at hand
excellent work, thanks!
Great tutorial, very informative.
Excellent, thank you. That makes it a lot easier to understand.
Thanks for this. Easy to follow!
Amazing video. Us noobs appreciate these videos!
Great video easy to follow thank you .
To activate approch you can also press procedures batton and set the "activate approch" to activet it.
Thank you so much man...!
FYI all, the current version of Xplane there are a couple of steps that are not shown I think. Like GPS steering, and using heading bug when you hit approach in GPS etc. I will create a video this week consolidating a few tutorials including this one (which is great) for knowledge transfer.
After trying this a few times I could not get my plane to connect with the glide slope and auto descend. I tried a few approach options messing with altitude and speed but could not get it to work Then I read the S-TEC 55 AP Manual. It appears you need to hit the Alt button a second time to engage the GS. Not sure if it's due to an older version of the Auto Pilot or me not doing something right, but it's working now. Great video. Very informative. I do suggest everyone read through the manuals under the Cessna 172SP folder. I found some other nice tidbits of information in the Garmin G530 manual as well. AE
So press ALT twice on the autopilot menu?
Very helpful. Thx!
Despite the flying faults, thanks for spreading the knowledge of the AP and GPS system.
You have really smooth frames and nice scenery, can you do a video on your settings?
Excellent!!!
nice tutorial thanks.
Can you please make a tutorial of the ils approach function of the nav. I dont know, how it works.
Thanks! That helped... :)
Really awesome tutorial! Im starting to learn again GPS and ILS approaches and nav and you're videos are a god send!!
Very nice indeed
Merci beaucoup my friend ....appreciated sir
verry nice video i am a beginner from belgium in europe. it is not simple
Recap was very useful
At least I find something that helps me to landingnin ILS mode, thank you
Great presentation .just in real life flaps are extended withing the white line of the airspeed indicator. To prevent flaps structural damage. Could cause a spin. But great tutorial.
Great!
One recommendation I would make is for you to land the plane as close as possible to the stall speed. Your main mounts should touchdown before the nose wheel, and try to keep the nose wheel of the runway for as long as possible. Let aerodynamics lower the nose wheel and not by relaxing (yoke or stick control going forward) the elevator control.
Yep, I think he might have bent the firewall and/or broken the nose gear had that been a real-life landing!
@@galoon Most of these people have never heard about the types of landing accidents caused by strong cross winds and excessively hight touch down speeds as the pilots tries to force the aircraft onto the ground. Here is a good video (second landing) on a pilot porpoising down the runway in a Piper Cherokee 140 that rips of the nose wheel. .
Fast approach and landing.
Very good tutorial Sir
Please make an updated one!
You are Great, you explain nicely and understandably how to set GPS, but most people with LAZINESS, do not show how to set GPS and insert Plan. that are LAZZY and
Helpful video, thanks for this and other X-Plane videos you've done!. Just after you activated the APProach button on the autopilot, you went to an extended exterior view. We missed the critical point at which the GPS and AP captured the glide path and the plane started descending. I have had a lot of trouble getting that to happen with this LPV approach. Very frustrating. I've read the S-Tec manual and tried repeated attempts to get vertical guidance using the APP or even the ALT pressed twice. Neither work. If anyone has any thoughts, please comment. Thanks.
Question: Can you use the default ATC plus GPS approach together? ATC might come in handy if you're at an un-familiar airport and have to taxi...Just asking...Thanks for all the great tutorials...
Thank you for the tutorial! QUESTION: As soon as I hit APR button, it starts flying towards HEADING even if there is no HDG button pressed. On display it says NAV APR GS?
Thx
Do I need to be below the glide slope in order for the auto pilot approach to work? Like do I have to intersect the glide slope?
Hey, nice vids. I have watched a few of yours now. I think you do a good job, but there's one thing wrong in this vid. Man, you don't lower flaps at that speed, or you will do structural damage to the aircraft. And in the new XP11, you can actually tear them off of the aircraft. I would suggest looking at the section on speeds of the aircraft, which goes over all of the archs and colors of the speed indicator instrument. Other than that nice vid.
how did you activated the gps ?
As usual, Jason in a very good teacher, I believe the best for virtual air navigation! In this case I have not been able to replicate the video because when I reach the last leg and I push APR, the plane turns unexpectedly on the right and lose definitely the right route to the final approach. I know the video is using an old version of autopilot, but I have have not been able to do the same with the new current version. Did someone do it?
Hi Jason, great tutorial. I am new to xplane and have tried to follow what you do on screen, but my plane misses the way point. Any idea what l may be doing wrong?
the approach plan was activated :)
Hi Jason, I have a question about using the default atc or even 124th atc and the Garmin 530. all of the videos i see, i see them open up the atc put a few way points in then start the flight with ATC guiding them all the way. But i have yet to see a video of someone using a Cessna with a garmin 530 and having them use the GPS for the flight plan that they put in. Is there a video like that out there? can some one explain to me?
4:00 how did you activate the gps?
Hi Jason just came across your site and I would like to ask as a complete novice what I really need to start flying thanks in advance for any help from you.
How exactly do you know when you're close enough to turn on the approach button?
Ive tried Vectors to Final several times now from KDFW to KDAL just as a warmup. The first leg, instead of going to wp Myles, it flies away from it bearing 313. Only way I can go toward the wp and DAL is to hit REV on my autopilot. Got to be a simple mistake im making somewhere.
you activated the gps but did not show how to turn it on! :)
Lots of things I would change about the video itself. Including zooming in the GPS each time to close to full screen. Most people dont watch these things on widescreen PC screens anymore lol
@@scottskinner577 i do
@@earlglover6091 I said MOST PEOPLE. And I know thats an accurate perception because, this is how people made videos 20 years ago, when I spent hours in front of my pc. And there was no tablets or smart phones. Everyone did.... *back then*
But I feel ya lol
Agreed. I presume he just switched from NAV to GPS to activate?? Also, he activates the approach before taking off, because the last waypoint is so close to the runway.....so, what if the last waypoint is farther away from the runway?? I guess you go back into your GPS and activate the approach while you pass your last waypoint??
He turned on auto pilot, as it was already set to use GPS.
Another wonderful lesson but there is a problem. In using the updated X-Plane auto pilot this procedure does not work. If GPS is on and the NAV on AP is set, the plane seems to want to head in the approach direction as soon as it starts on the runway, and then runs away. I have tried various other options and cannot get the approach vector to work, It does not head for the target airport. Clearly there is some different way with the new auto pilot and I have not been able to figure it out. Hoping Jason can help.
I had the same problem. I think that you need to activate KDPA when you take off, engage GPS at an appropriate height, then activate the approach leg. Then it navigates correctly.
Thanks, I great for gps instruction ! but never put your flaps down at that speed in a real 172. And flair your landing s . land on the rear wheels and keep the nose wheel off the ground as long as possible. The stall warning should come on as you touch down
Jason I been following this video to get me 530 to follow thru what you did , step by step . I guess I should ask being I see this video back in 2017 , and my XPlane11 is 11.40 , which maybe 530 now does not follow these steps ? Is this true?? Dale
Hi again, I've done that a few times now, works fine, but if I try the same plan but instead of choosing vectors I choose the ILS approach via BOWEN I find that when it starts the turn at BOWEN the GPS keeps turning itself off and the plane heads off in some random direction. Any ideas what I need to do (or not do) to stop it please? Many thanks, Steve
thanks for the video, I have one question....the 'flight' is from KARR to KDPA,it isn't? sorry but I'm relly beginner
First slow down until about 80-85 knots, only then start lowering your flaps. Otherwise you gonna loose them. Groundspeed on final is about 70 knots.
Is vertical speed managed by this at all? Or just the lateral movement?
The moment I hit approach it goes of course
Yep - the same problem. There's something missing here.
@@peterdepra I managed to figure out the issue later, you need to align the heading bug to runway heading before hitting approach.
@@RaoulsRandomVideos Many thanks - your help is much appreciated. Hopefully, the tip will useful to others too :)
@@RaoulsRandomVideos Thanks it worked
Hi Jason, @11:40, the "VS" on your Autopilot isn't activated anymore. Did you turn this off or did the plan this by itself because of the approach button that's turned on? When I try this, only lateral navigation works. On the CDI instrument, only the vertical is moving. The horizontal needle is always centered. It looks like there is no vertical "assist". What could be the reason for this? I can see the glideslope on the map for the runway I'm landing on and position of my Cessna.
i used s-tec 55 to approach, when I clicked twice on ALT, GS appeared, however, the plane didn't descend at all. do you know why? Thank you!
Kind of late in the game for X Plane (version .40 here) but what exactly are you clicking on (I hear an audible click in the video but dont see you move your cursor) to "Activate" the gps for the approach. Sorry if its a silly question, but I just cant seem to get the 530 to set up for my approach. Im flying into KAUS from KEDC. Its only about 13nm's.
4:20 my ears broke
Jason, I need to use the GPS steering to track the Approach. Also, when I am on final and push in the APR button the plane veers off course. All is good up to that point. What am I doing wrong that causes the plane to go off course? Thank you, Ray
Thank you so much for this.. I'm pretty new to this, but do you use the ATC in conjunction with the flight plans you create?
When you press Enter to open the ATC, it will ask for the Departure AP, Arrival AP, and flight level. That is enough to let the ATC make it's own flight plan. However, you can use the box below to enter in waypoints to fly your own flight plan.
Is there a way to download your flight plan from the GPS to the ATC without having to fill in the box below?
I tried and it goes the absolute direct opposite way it should go
Probably because you need to put the heading bug onto the runway direction of 020.
when selecting approach i guess waypoints are added; is that correct?
And also, if I am going to load it, when should I activate the approach?
2 years later and the AP works more like the real Garmin now. I like the AP better but I fly real aircraft too. The old AP was too automatic and could have caused some bad habits to form.
Very helpful but you are flying the whole time on full power, after you have taken off you can reduse your power a little until around 20000 rpm
Thijs Rinsema 20 000 too much, motorn not like too much
How does the approach selection tie in with ATC instructions?
Thank you for this tutorial. It is very helpful. I did try to follow along and things went well. But I noticed my plane followed the GS correctly but stayed a bit to the right of the Localizer needle. Yours were perfect. I tried approaches at different locations but the plane always stayed right of the Localizer. I generally take over and land manually when I am close in. Is there something I am doing wrong or do I need to make some adjustments to my instruments/settings?
Thanks
Set the Heading Bug to the same number as the runway number you're approaching. When the approach button is pressed you can make small tweaks to the runway center through incremental adjustments. Also ensure you have set NAV1 to the ILS frequency of the runway. Even small deviations to a frequency setting can throw you off. Worked for me, but have not tried this with Jason's GPS approach, only in an straight ILS approach. Good luck.
@@mr.martintorres5804 hi, did you eventually try with GPS approach? Does the heading bug adjustment work also for that?
Matteo Benedetto Manini Yes GPS approach works. I believe the autopilot just works differently than it does in Jason’s tutorial here. Moving the heading bug to the approach course heading does the trick.
i don't get something .. at 4:05 you say that the GPS is activated but it was already on at the start of the vid. does one enter Alt for 1100 ft in the ap panel? please clarify i would appreciate it. Thanks if some one can help.
Thanks f you great videos, but I could not find the video where you enter a complete flight plan. New to X Plane 11 but used FXS for long time about 100 hours.
Have a look at this video - czcams.com/video/gsa97TdHIhA/video.html
when you say, "time to slow the plane down", are you pulling back on the throttle to do this?
No he's not and what he did if in a real plane would have damaged the flaps. He extended them above the Ne speed for Fe. 85 kts is the maximum Fe speed.
Dear Jason, at 4:00min you activated your GPS using a button from your joystick, could you explain how you mapped this function to the specific joystick button? What is the function called? Thank you!