Shimano Vs SRAM & Fox Vs RockShox | The Biggest Mountain Bike Rivalries
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- Mountain biking has always had rivalries! Most of these have been between the top professionals such as Steve Peat vs Nico Voulios, or Sabrina Jonnier vs Tracey Moseley, but what are the most common rivalries that are a little more relatable to us as regular mountain bikers?
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00:00 - Intro
00:49 - Shimano Vs SRAM
02:22 - FOX Vs RockShox
04:42 - Flats Vs Clips
06:51 - Gloves Vs No Gloves
08:35 - Alloy Vs Carbon
09:45 - Data Vs No Data
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I've been using Sram the last five years with zero regret. I've been using rock shox for 25 years. But if my bike comes with fox suspension, I leave it until it needs to be replaced. At this point I would not avoid either. Its all so dam good it doesnt even matter.
Me too I love everything SRAM but their Brakes...I a Hope Brake guy....Shimano is way off the back for me...Although back in the 90's I was a XTR guy for sure.. My current suspension though is provided by CANE CREEK! Love their forks and shocks that I started with in the late 80's...
For the whole gloves debate I will always wear gloves. I remember I got a pair and the very next day I crashed and slid on my hands. Those gloves saved my hands. So I will always wear gloves
Yeah it keeps you from having your day ruined by a non-injury. If I fall and I'm perfectly fine except my palm is shredded so I can't hold the bars, it's just ridiculous
Gloves every day of the week. Just thorns and nettles and errant branches. Riding without gloves is just unnecessary.
I sweat a lot so my hands and grips become like a rainy day so I wear gloves to maintain grip.
From the number of pairs I cheese grated I'm pretty happy to pay a small fee not to have parmesan palms
We have lots of nerves on our palms and fingers. Gloves always!
Suspension: rockshox drivetrain: sram frame: alloy gloves?: sometimes not always knee pads: always data?: nah
I have to say, in contrast to other manufacturers, Fox vs Rockshox is more about brand-loyalty than differences. They are just too similar😅 Intend, Ext and Öhlins are the better option for me
For sure at the high end. If you're on a budget, Rockshox give you more for your money.
Ohlins is way too expensive for what it is and EXT brakes too easy.
@@dylanperschon8479 Öhlins is similar to Fox from the price point😂. And wtf about EXT breaking? Seen more Fox 36s being demolished then anything else
@@puffilp4493 1500 for an ohlins fork and almost 900 for a coil? That’s way more than fox. And yeah just about every EXT I’ve been around had had a broken damper body. I have a homie who has had 2 EXT forks and an EXT coil both braking after only a few months of riding
Shimano, FOX Racing, flats, gloves, alloy, no data
Exactly
Just changed a SRAM Eagle for Shimano XT drivetrain. The Shimano has been more efficient and in my opinion feels a lot smoother. I am into data, so I can quantify my efficiency statement. I live in a very sweaty humid place. So gloves are a must. I really like my Fox 36’s. Just a great all around preformed. But, hey it’s America, we are aloud to have different opinions. Enjoy yourself. Ride the gear you like. I am. Still gonna smile and ask how you are on the trail.
Why can't Americans spell?
I am Shimano guy, but honestly last years SRAM killing it with wireless shifting.
I am really eager to see when and what will Shimano show us in terms of wireless shifting. I dont know what they are waiting...
In terms of suspension I'm currently on Fox but I have also tried RockShox and even you can feel some differences, both are great.
It's ridiculous.
I'd love for shimano to bring out a wireless rear mech compatible with their current 12 speed cassettes. I've no idea what they're waiting for.
@@Arkainebe there is di2....
which isn't wireless@@teabagNBG
Does it even come in 12 speed?
I'm a Shimano guy, and I don't want any electronics on my bike, so I'm still a Shimano guy.
the reason for electronic shifting is getting rid of the shift cable!
not to become "wireless"!
the only cable u have on the di2 is to the battery or motor... sram has batteries for each part wich means u have a ton of batteries wich u have to replace and charge... lets not talk about the fact if u have a ebike u have a big battery anyways, so why dont hook it up there... also cable signal is always better and faster than any wireless signal... also shimano newest di2 in combination with a shimano ep801 motor has autoshift and freeshift... sram doesnt have this... LOL
and yes they have 12 speed...
-Shimano 👌 More affordable
-Fox 👌 cooler design
-Flats! 👌 More freedom
-Gloves all day! 👌 Grip and safety
-Alloy 👌 more durable and cheaper
-No data 👌 extra, useless weight
Great video guys!
Well my personal preference is fox float, XT group set(including breaks), clips and gloves. Will be riding with knee guards 😅 in the future when doing enduro.
Isaac looks like he got a lot more comfortable in front of the camera
My bike is for fun down-country style riding.
Sram GX group,
Sram Guide R Brakes,
Fox SC Factory fork and shock,
Crank Brothers Stamp flat pedals,
Specialized gloves,
no pads,
carbon frame,
Garmin with data on Strava,
Fox and Shimano 💯
I think its comes more often to the points: Party Set-Up or Race Set-Up.
I mean, RockShocks are more like "Set, forget, have fun!" vs FOX "Set me up, change your setting here and there and lets race!" :)
On GS i prefer SHIMANO drivetrain and stopping power.
On suspension it will be ROCKSHOX ofcourse. Both offers almost the same performance BUT with the other one being more affordable, has wider variety of models to choose from, cheaper/longer timeline before suggested maintaince, and offers DIY guide on how you can service your own RS fork so what more could you ask for.
On pedals it will be FLAtS for me.
Sometimes I have the feeling this rockshox/fox debate is quite similar to the android/apple debate. I don't want to get into detail, but some aspects in your comment could also be in that debate 😂.
Love my RS ZEB Ultimate ... But as I travel a lot and take off the Frontweel regularly I think the Fox axel is much smoother to install.
The OEM Shimano Deore I got on a $1500 Marin hard tail has been perfect over 3 months of shifting wherever and whenever needed, amazing
Grew up on bmx- no gloves no helmet no pads no brakes( most of the time), just a beat up pair of airwalks. Used to commute 150miles a week on a road bike. Loved being clipped in for that efficiency, slip on shoes and a helmet. Mountain biking- alloy, shimano,(shifting and braking),rock shock, flats, gloves, helmet( goes without saying these days), knee pads. Never needed data to play real hard.
Short answer, SRAM,RockShox, flats, 50/50 gloves, knee pads, aluminum, no data for me!!
Nice Video xD
I always record data but never use it for anything hahahaha
I’m on shimano now (have been all my life). But it’s more a “whats on the bike that the store sells” kind of thing. I have a set of clipless pedals laying around. I’m scared to try them. Never ridden with them 😅. I always wear gloves and love data (Apple Watch tracks my workouts). 👍🏻
You can get Marzocchi Z2 (which is heavier version of Fox 34 with more basic damper) or Z1 (which is almost same as Fox 36) as a cheaper versions.
Marzocchi Bomber Z2 is such a great fork for the money. Fox have hit it out the park there. It's great at normal price but if you can find it on sale it's pretty much unbeatable value.
My preferences: Shimano, Rockshox, Flat, no gloves, Aloy, no data
Shimano brakes, SRAM drivetrain. Rockshox suspension (identical performance to fox at lower price point).
Sram, RockShox, flats, gloves, aluminium , no data.
I used to be biased towards Sram back in the 9s days but upgraded that bike with Shimano XT 11s and it felt as good and with the double upshift thats sometimes useful. On my new bike I got XT M8100 12s that does the job but it does not feel as exact and aggressive as my sons Sram GX Eagle 12s. I was really happy with the Rockshox Reba on my old bike but after trying my other sons entry level FOX 32 I got hooked and my new bike got FOX Performance suspension with a 34sc in the front and Float dps in the rear and rides really sweet. I don´t get the same sweet feeling on my other sons entry level SID with the Charger damper as I got on my old Reba but that is probably a tuning issue. All brands make great stuff and I usually go for most bang for bucks as my new bike that was last years model on sale.
Isaac either has a lanyard around his neck or a bikini top under his t-shirt 😂
👀👀
the latest eagle derailleur is definitely something where if i was getting a new bike, would make sure it had it. good solution to a big drivechain annoyance of knocking the derailleur messing up shifting quality
Agree totally, but I think everyone else can make do with a good derailleur straightening tool, including those of us with last Gen AXS. The ability to micro adjust on the fly without even stopping is incredible too.
@@lozetchells9164not heard of any last gen axs, just know before axs was just etap
@@mlee6050 on mtbs there is the new gen, the t-type, with new derailleur, chain type, chainrings and has no derailleur hanger. This only came out this summer.
Then there is the last gen, been out a few years, and it's compatible with the chains, cassettes and chainrings from the rest of the SRAM Eagle lineup.
@@lozetchells9164 oh yeah, I saw that, just thought of it like an add on, personally I always go with derailleur hangar as better than without in my view
I have looked at budget £4k to build a 8kg mountain bike with eagle but might go mullet so double chainring and unsure frame looked at but might go trial style as use for everything then as looks best all round one
The natural trail area I've ridden for the last decade or more is mostly lava rock and has lots of sage brush and bull-thistles growing over the trail. You learn very fast to always wear gloves!
OOOOOOOHH good video
I prefer the click shifting of SRAM over the smoother action of Shimano…Brakes are either/or currently using GuideR…Rockshox all the way for the ease of self maintenance…flats…Steel HT…gloves, no pads
Once the RC3 Damper came out with Buttercups I built a hard tail with a 160 Lyric. After riding that, I changed my full suspension to a Super Deluxe Coil and a new Zeb from Fox factory stuff.
SRAM GX rear mech, Fox 36 fork, Shimano XT brakes, gloves, pads only for bike park and no data.
I am team rockshox forever !
Gretting from chili 🇨🇱
I do use and love Shimano (I combo Deore with XT and SLX) and in the more budget stuff I I do like the Shimano Performance and with the hight end stuff I don't care... Brakes I love my Code RSC... But I have to say the TRP (brakes and Drivetrain) work brillant!!! And when it comes to suspension I am a big fox fan boy but due to price I put a RS Domain RC on my Occam and fitted it with a Charger 2.1 Damper and I love that fork!!!
Okay here we go 🙂...
Clip, always have used it.
Gloves, one of my first bicycle crashes many many moons ago, I go down hands first into lose gravel and if I had not had long finger gloves on my hands would have been shredded...
Alloy, it seems stronger/safer for mountain biking, aluminum bends, carbon snaps.
Data, I love data give me data, even if I can't make head or tail of it, the graphs look pretty... And like you said in the video when I'm out there lost in the middle of nowhere I can hit back to start and find the car 🙂.
Frame: Titanium.
Pedals: Flats
Suspension: Whatever
Breaks: Magura
Drivetrain: Either
Gloves: Only when wet or cold, otherwise they float of my hands.
I do love the look of Kashima, just ordered a Canyon Strive CFR UD - wishing I spent the little extra to get those sweet Kashima stanchions 😆
1. SRAM -vs- Shimano: I have been an XT guy since the 1990’s
2. Fox -vs- Rock Shox: I have upgraded bikes with with, Private Lable (Suntour), Rock Shot, & MRP all to Fox & Fox Factory in all cases
3. Related: A. When my Xfusion dropper died on a Bike, I replaced it with a PNW. B. On another bike, When my KS dropper died on a Bike, I replaced it with another PNW. C. When another KS died on another bike, I went with a Fox Factory Transfer SL, mostly out of size/fitment requirements. As a result, I have a Love/Hate relationship with the Transfer SL. Love - WAY Faster and Smoother than the PNW. Hate - No adjustment on the fly. It is either Up, or DOWN.
4. Flats -vs- Clips: coming from BMX racing, I have run Flats for most of my Mnt. Bike life. I do run XT/SPD with Mnt. Bike soul shoes, on my road bikes. After watching this and now a few other vids, I will try Clips on my Mnt. Bike.
5. Gloves -vs- Unprotected: I am a “Glove Whore” - I have been from the 1970’s in BMX, MX, Dirt and Street motorcycles, Mnt. Bike and Road riding. I sweat Battery Acid and even use gloves while driving a vehicle.
6. Alloy -vs- Carbon. Since 1996 when I got a GT ZASKAR LE, then the GT LTS, It is has mostly been Aluminum. Accept for the INTENSE Carbine 275, and the Carbon Road bikes that I have had. I currently have the INTENSE, plus a Cervélo Rs/Disk, and ARGON 18 Krypton Carbon bikes, and two Alloy Hard tails, my favorite being my FELT SURPLUS 30+ which is spec’d out with full XT 1x11, XT 4-piston, Fox Factory 36’s, and the Fox Factory Transfer SL Dropper. The other bike is a custom, though budget build, that I have on another island in the Philippines, called a SUNPEE-ACE. It sports the REBA taken off the FELT, a XT 1x12, RaceFace Carbon Bars, Cranks and Chester pedals.
7. Data -vs- No-Data: I used a Garmin in the past, now just the STRAVA App. I want to know how far, how long I rode, and how much elevation/climbing that I accomplished. I only “race” myself, on my “saved” routes.
This was a great vid. Thanks for creating it.
You forgot to mention toeclips and straps which I still use and love. I never got the knack of clipless pedals, I find my foot moves around a load on flats. I also suffered a stroke 2.5 years ago and I can't even use clipless on my road bike.
For me it would be Shimano on breaks for sure as well as for mechanical drive trains, sram does have as of now a better wireless.
As for RockShox vs Fox, its a tie for me, both are really great though in my experience Fox is a little smoother, but RS is much better to service.
I’ve went to carbon this year and loving it. Also went to SRAM for drivetrain and brakes so far I’m liking it. But that’s my opinion.
I prefer all black fox forks. The orange is cool and pops really nice. But it clashes against my fuel ex 8's red/black paint fade.
After using just about everything, I like Fox Factory forks and shocks. I have been using SRAM AXS since its release. It’s excellent. Hope make the best brakes. XTR race pedals and always wear gloves.
I've heard a lot of people say that the main difference they feel between Rockshox and Fox is that Fox suspension seems to feel a bit softer than Rockshox . Don't know how much their setup played into this though
I've ridden both fox and rockshox and I personally think fox is a little more smooth (especially in the early stroke) but rockshox are great too, they feel very sturdy
shimano and rockshox. cause, never had a chance to try SRAM or Fox.
i go flat like i always did. mostly a matter of being much cheaper. My budget is tight, and id rather invest in better bike parts than clip pedals and shoes.
and gloves! yes! my poor hands. They get muuuch less tired and dry.
rock shocks work with upgrades for existing equipment,a flat bar gravel bike that can take a large tire with mud clearance great for all types of riding and trail camping ,fishing ,just get a rear axle no dropouts ,
1x Vs 2x. Definitely been forced into 1x now. Yes it's simpler but it wears out much quicker and costs more to maintain. 2x is perfect for adventures
Don't let them force you to change what you know is better all my bikes are at least 2x
On my trance x I have a fox factory 36, with a rockshock super deluxe ultimate rear shock. And shimano deore Xt brakes with wireless xo1 drivetrain. Killer setup
Rule #1; never buy a 1st year SRAM product.
Rule #2; if you like the new XTR, you can wait for the cheaper version in XT.
Rule #3; there's almost always some niche company making the same item as the majors in a better form, material, or style than them- usually for more money. SRAM hits back by buying them; Shimano by making their product irrelevant with their next iteration.
I liked Marzocchi better than Fox, and Rockshox had a different way of doing things than either.
Rule #4; Used like they should be, it all becomes junk sooner or later- except for titanium, that stuff is eternal.
Brandon vs Brett
Brandon
-SRAM
-Rockshox
-Redbull
-Troylee
Brett
-Shimano
-Fox Suspension
-Monster (used to be monster athlete)
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#gmbn what is best to store a dropper post at, fully extended or fully down and does either damage the bike?
I feel a lot more confident wearing gloves - also the only recent time that I was without gloves on a long ride my hands felt quite uncomfortable eventually. Clearly my hands have become too soft. On the data side, I enjoy looking at the route and metrics that my Garmin Instinct watch comes up with after a ride.
First ROCK SHOX PIKE/LYRIK/ OR SUNTOUR AION 29 RC2 AND XC: DTSWISS ODDL REaly Light and hard fork
Second: Fox 38/36
Third: Dvo/MRP
Well this year im trying out the magpeg pedals, always rode flats prior. I like em but they take a little bit to adjust. Gloves have always worn them habit from riding quads&dirt bikes. Knee pads never wore them this season I picked up a pair and have been using them, I also use the poc back and elbow pad vest. I ride alone all the time also don’t feel like being outta work again it’s not fun so little extra precaution doesn’t hurt. As for the data I use Trailforks. Not so much for time, more so for the miles i put on the bike, and if I get lost lol. My phones is in my pocket, I set it to track my ride that’s it, I don’t pull it out and stop the time when I stop, I turn it off when I get back to the jeep. I’m a Fox fanboy. Sram and Shimano…this is my first nice bike and I have both on there. Shimano brakes, and Sram drivetrain.
XTR on XC, Sram GX on e-MTB, data(you are right it sometimes kills the joy), carbon, flats, Fox rear sus, RockShox on front. But carbon steers on XC(a wonder)!
I always used Shimano and sram but recently picked up a ltwoo set, for the price it seems to good to be true but a lot of reviews are positive.
Shimano,
RockShox,
Flats,
GLOVES,
Carbon,
No data.
defently team gloves😀
Grip shift vs the Company that has pioneered MTB? Shimano xt every bike. It just works for a reasonable price. Fox all the way. Gloves are a must if your pushing it. Clipped in always unless I’m trying new stuff. Titanium or Steel always. 😀 Nice vid guys!
Shimano shifters, hayes brakes, coil suspension, and pedals are 50/50 for me.
Gloves all the way, particularly my ancient full finger gloves. Knee pads for me but only when it's cool enough+mid to long sleeve jersey. Steel is real(alloy is next preferred).
I like truvativ cranks/stems/bars since they offer good value and are strong.
ive bee riding sram gx for about 6 years now, and used to ride rockshox, but recently got a new bike kitted out with Öhlins. really loving them too
an dim sorry but alloy frames are the best
SRAM for shifting, Shimano for brakes. Actually never tried Fox suspension, but I love my Lyrik and Zeb, and my friend's Öhlins... 🔥
Shimano, flats or clips, gloves!
I prefer Shimano over SRAM I have SRAM GX drivetrain and a Shimano Deore. I find the Shimano shifts smoother and is quieter than a much more expensive SRAM drivetrain. Alloy over carbon, I use the data for trail maps and I keeping track of milage for the parts use on my bikes.
Miss Doddy already. Love Issac though! Staffing apparently in good hands (Adam on embn also a great addition)
Flats
Rockshox prefer DVO
Sram GX mech
Hayes brakes
No gloves unless it's cold
Alum
Controversy:
Drivetrain: SRAM Eagle, shimano is fine, but SRAMs feels a little bit more bitey, and the under load shifts that occassionally happen occur much better than with shimano.
Suspension: Rockshox forks are superior, the ability to buy at a lower price point sells it, and the performance among the higher end forks of RS and FX is vritually same save the adjustability of FX. The rear shock however goes to Fox, I love the extra adjustability, especially on a Stumpy it makes it so I can tune the bike to whatever extent I need it to go, whether its XC or All Mountain/Light Enduro. Take that with a grain of salt as I have a factory float X on my stumpy...
Personally, I always wear gloves when its cooler out (hands get cold and then I get whipped by a tree branch) but in the summer time unless its a hard downhill I go barehanded.
Personally Carbon frames feel way better than alloy frames in terms of weight and comfort, while yes, the carbon is more brittle than the alloy, the likelihood that you'll destroy your frame on a casual ride is slim to none unless you royally screw up, alloy frames are better for learning techniques, carbon is for when you're close to if not already at that skill threshold alloy can't cross
On my trail bike it's GX drivetrain, sram brakes (i hate them, gonna swap them out soon) and fox suspension.
on my DH it's also GX DH drivetrain, shimano brakes and rock shox suspension. Carbon on the trail bike, alloy on the downhill. I don't really prefer either, apart from shimano brakes, it's just what came on the bikes.
Always gloves. Always Pads. Always Flats. And Data :)
Shimano for drivetrains and brakes. FOX and Marzocchi for forks. Albeit with a smashpot for my big bike. Cane Creek coil shocks on two bikes and FOX aircan for my Down Country bike. Always gloves. And have and use Garmin computers. Summed up. Enduro bike. Shimano XT 12 speed and 4 pot brakes with Cane Creek Kitsuma coil shock and FOX 38's Smashpotted, E-Bike runs XT Di2, Marzocchi Z1 coil and a CC IL DB Coil shock and DEORE 4 pots. Downcountry bike runs XT drivetrain and SLX 2 pots with FOX 34 forks and a DPS shock.
Hardtail runs 11 speed DEORE with a FOX 34 fork. All bikes except DC bike runs flats.
X fusion front and rear
Micro shift
Flats
And 26er
SRAM. Fox. Flats, Gloves. Knee Pads. Alloy. Data. But I'm not hardcore in any camp, like ready to fight about it. Just my preferences. :)
I found the comparison that GMBN Tech did between winningest drivetrains, brakes, bikes- that’s the real data! Shimano wins!
XT,Flats,Always Gloves,no pads...ever...Ha!
Shimano, Fox, alloy frames, gloves, pads, 50/50 flats and clipless, data is always good but not necessary. So many options and soma brands most are good and can be used with success.
Microshifft , Sunrace , Shensha , Lwod is the better Alternative
Fox man thru and thru. They are the brand for shocks / suspension across many action sports. Not just MTBs.
Drive trains I have no loyalty at the moment. Both bikes are spec'd with Shimano but i find myself looking at the electronic SRAM drive trains more and more.
I have riding with Shimano Drivetrain for years don't have any preference on drivetrain, and for forks willing to try new things such as Marzocchi.
SRAM over Shimano. Fox over Rockshox, I appreciate the ability to customize the functions of the shocks. Clip over flats. No gloves, I have found it feels better, I do like the extra coverage for heavy downhill or weather days. I should wear pads all the time, again I only use them when mostly downhill riding, I don't like the weight when trails call for more pedaling. Carbon over Alloy, the lines of the frame design are more appealing, and mostly dur to titanium full suspension frames are too costly. I use Strava to know it actually happened, lol! I use the program to see my time on my bike, if I improve my speed and time and mostly so I can look back at things I've done.
For me Shimano drivetrain, SR Suntour suspension, Aluminum everything, gloves and some data (Strava). How comes bike media rarely talks about SR Sutour. They make great suspension. I have always user SR Sutour but recently got a full suspension bike that came with RockShox suspension, it is ok but I find SR Sutour is better tunable. Besides, Tom Pidcock's Pinarello Dogma XC have Shimano XTR drive train with SR Suntour suspension and he seems to be doing pretty good. I am looking forward to replace the RockShox with SR Sutour.
Suntour radions and epicons are great their easy to service with only using grease and change travel also they pretty tough and can take abuse and neglect would really like a set of suntour duro personaly
gotta say i'm starting to feel gloves, came off on some hard pack jumps the other day and shredded my hands, gloves do make it more comfortable but blake's argument with gloveless is what i felt
Shimano, RockShox, Flats, Alloy, no preference on gloves and no data out this way. That said, I have never had a carbon bike or Fox suspension. It's interesting how polarizing some of these are though, reminds me of the mac and pc debates.
1. Sram
2. Both are good.
3. Flats
4. No gloves
5. Alloy
6. No data
The biggest one I care about is the SRAM V SHIMANO. Both are good, and I have a bike with each. Sram is much smoother (GX vs XT) and I have less issues with it.
For me:
SRAM
Clipless (Crank Bros.)
Gloves (definitely)
Pads (most recently)
Alloy
Shimano has always been an easy choice.Transmissions are much tougher.
Brakes are more powerful.
But the new OE UDH looks bomb proof. Might have to got to the dark side.
Always ridden RS because that’s what came on my bikes and they work will.
But a 36 elite is my baller fork.
So happy to be a rigid single speeder!!!
Tbh with how people are driving I'd wear full downhill gear for the road, for MTB I love light helmets and gloves.
Full face and protective gear give you confidence but it's always a sweaty river unless it's minus something degrees outside.
since 1994 I am riding Shimano SPD pedals, Rockshox and Shimano drivetrains (XT). And even when I changed to an other brand or system I regretted it. So on my Nukeproof Scout I went back to Rockshox , Shimano XT and clipless pedals. Without the former German drivetrain manufacturer Sachs, which Sram bought, Sram would not be one of the technology leaders in the market.
I don't usually wear knee/shin pad when I'm using my clipless pedals. I also wear my knee/shin pads when ever I use my flat pedals. The flats REALLY scare me half to death and I have had a smack in the shin from pedals in the past. I prefer Shimano. SRAM when I've used it in the past. Felt like cheap plastic. The shifting wasn't as good. I also can't stand mixing Shimano with SRAM. Except for the suspension. As Shimano don't do that. I am data. But only to record my rides, sometimes route planning and see if I've gotten a bit fitter. I don't have a power meter so that's not a concern.
I second shin guards. Just ordered a pair after I went to urgent care yesterday. 8 stitches.
SRAM
Rockshox
Flats, Stamp 7s
Gloves, Fly F16s, stingers, thorns and the ground all hurt.
No pads, I need the flexibility, my worst crashes involved pads.
Alloy but steel is still real.
Very little data. I don't need huge numbers. When I climb certain benchmarker hills I like to know which ring I went up to, if I only went to the 46t where before I was in the 50t then I know I'm getting better. Elsewise, tape measure for jump/drop progression and a clock for average pace progression. I don't want to be constantly monitoring everything. I don't care, as long as I'm doing better this month than I was last then I'm doing okay. The most important bit of data is smiles per minute, as long as that's maxing out you're riding right.
People have rockshocks . People have Fox..... perfectionists have OHLINS...😂😂
Gloves on longer rough rides otherwise no gloves, flat pedals always, aluminum or titanium no carbon. Cracked a steel frame bmx 3/4 of the way through.
I believe its "Diamomd Layer Coating" not "like". Good show regardless lol😅
Shimano & Rockshox for me, both very affordable without falling short on quality, both very easy to work on yourself and just great products in general. Nothing against SRAM & Fox just preference
I prefer SRAM GX Eagle and Öhlins suspension front and rear. To me Öhlins takes longer to set up but once you get it there's no better suspension fork or shock.
With wireless gears and droppers, I wonder if hoseless brakes could ever be a thing 😅
No more ripping out hoses or bleeding brakes. What a wonderful world that would be!
wireless brakes? yea + electronic DT, dropper, electronic suspension, dual power meater, couple of lights, garmin computer.. sounds great, with only one problem.. you would have 15+ bateries on your bike to charge, mantain and worry about : for me a nightmare 🙂 ...... I ride carbon HT on XT groupset + RS Sid + 4iiii and Garmin 530, always long finger gloves .. my road bike is on 2x11 mechanic 105
Carbon frames on a full suspension MTB, especially longer travel MTBs, isn't doing anything for ride compliance/etc... imho
Between the big fluffy tires and plush shocks I seriously doubt that carbon matters at all in that application - total placebo.
Maybe on hardtails a bit but how many are still coming with 1.9 or 2.1 tires? Most are at least 2.25 and setup tubeless running on the squishy side.
A lot of people make the mistake of thinking metallurgy is frozen in time and no advances have been made since carbon came out.
Missed Pink Bike vs Vital
- Shimano all the way!
- Fox currently on both bikes, but using Rockshox before I like it maybe a bit better
- Gloves better control and some protection
- Alloy frame saves $ and the planet
- Flats pedals for the win!
- The more data the better.
mtb is expensive so forget about expensive wireless shifting, forks and shocks that can think for you. Crash or replace worn parts delves very deep into your pockets. keeping it mechanical is cheaper all round. But will consider a wireless dropper on my next build :)
Shimano, RockShox, clips, gloves, carbon, data.