Why This CHILLING Jeffrey Dahmer Netflix Show Is SO Haunting
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- I review, breakdown and explain Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story on Netflix. I discuss the chilling nature of the show, and react to why it was so hanuting and uncomfortable to watch.
00:00 Intro
01:02 Evan Peters Performance As Jeff
02:12 The Graphicness Of The Show
02:49 Showing The Story Through Outsiders Eyes
04:50 The Audio
05:16 The Entirety Of The First Episode
05:52 Outro
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Do you think Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story went too far? Or do you think it delivered what it set out to achieve? Comment your thoughts below!
Go watch the movie "My Friend Dahmer." I think the movie was based on a graphic novel. It's told from the point of view of a friend from Dahmer's childhood who knew him up until his first kill. It doesn't have the extremely dark scenes in it, but that wasn't the point of the film. It simply showed why Dahmer became who he is.
Like Dawn I watched this primarily to see how Evan Peters portrayed Dahmer, he's SO underated as an actor, and I wasn't disapointed, but then the whole cast were outstanding too. I know the Dhamer story backwards, and while the show left out a lot of the graphic images that it could have gone into, it more than made up for that with it's raw emotion. 10/10
If you watch the jeffrey dahmer trial you'll see that the part about his grandma watching over ronald flowers is not accurate. I was disappointed they changed part of the story. The true story was actually even more horrific. Ronald Flowers testimony in court was jaw dropping! I don't know why they didn't put it in the movie.
It’s taken me all week to watch this show and I’m not done yet. It’s more horrific than I imagined. Seeing how easy it is to drug someone and kill them is really scary for anyone.
@@LCx829 I struggled to finish the Netflix series. I had nightmares! I finally finished it and Im doing research now and I'm realizing the real life true story is even worse than the Netflix series!
Evan deserves awards
Yeah he delivered a real convincing performance. So creepy!
👏👏👏
Yes he was very convincing as JD.
So does Richard Jenkins.
Him, Richard Jenkins and Niecy Nash...
So, I love true crime. But…
Did anyone else feel this show was on ‘ANOTHER level entirely? This was the most gritty, realistic, disturbing and nightmarish portrayal of Jeff (and I’d probably say a serial killer in general) that I’ve ever seen.
It’s kind of the same feeling I had when i watched “chernobyl” in 2019. It’s like I just watched this terrible and tragic thing happen.
Agreed! I grew up with a deep interest and live of true crime. I knew of his story, but I didn’t know the depths until this show. For every documentary and Id channel special, I’ve never seen something so haunting. This portrayal really sits with you. It’s a testament to the dedication to retelling this horrific story. The writing, acting, all across the board was deeply unsettling.
I love true crime as well and generally a picky viewer. Yes, this series is on another level. Evan Peters and the whole cast are excellent.
Same Here. By far my favorite serial killer biopic to date. Extremely well done and the performances were perfect. I believed every single one of them. And if it hasn't been said enough Evan Peters was outstanding everyone was
Same here! I was literally thinking of Chernobyl as well, these are the only shows where i had to pause the episodes and take a break, very disturbing stuff
Too much for you?
Were you wearing your big boy pants?
The whole episode with Toni and how it built him up for an hour, was truly one of the most haunting episodes of any show I've seen
Agree. I'm watching it now
so sad 😞.
And the realization that it was his head in the fridge in the first episode
@@arnoldjohn8755 Noooo I didn't realize that
@@arnoldjohn8755 omg!! I didn’t see that 😢
@@arnoldjohn8755 omg!! I didn’t catch that. Tony's episode was probably the saddest. I felt so bad knowing it wasn’t a happy ending. 😢
I’m so glad they actually focused on the victims and their family’s for a change.
It made their deaths so much more impactful because we saw the human in all of them instead of them just being labeled as “Jeffery dahmer’s victims.” So often true crime reporters go into gruesome detail talking about how each person was killed and how they were disposed of instead of actually talking about their lives.
Im so sick of people only talking about Jeffery’s childhood in attempts of excusing his future behavior instead of touching on the lives of those that he took.
Likewise. They let us know how real a human Tony was. I’ve never seen so much respect paid to victims in true crime series before.
And that last episode, that day when Dahmer was baptized, Gacy executed, and a solar eclipse took place, really happened! I think that was some real hand of God type stuff.
@@themisterg. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I dont think people are trying to excuse his actions because his actions were morbid, horrible and inexcusable, I think people are just trying to understand and make sense on where the turning point happened cuz Dahmer himself has stated he doesn't know what the turning point is and says he believes he was just born that way, unlike other notorious serial killers he wasn't in denial or denied his actions he took all accountability and made no excuses, it seemed like he wanted to tell his father some of the things he done but he didn't want to hear it maybe deep down in those scenes before it all came out the father knew something really bad has happened and didn't want to hear it and accept it, he knew something was off and wrong but didn't want to hear how off and wrong. So between the "science experiments" his abandonment issues Hence he wanted them to stay with them, to not being heard when wanting to speak out about something is wrong with him and not having a voice to speak with ears he supposed to trust and a few other red flag moments that he was seeking for help to release himself of it he left to bottle and hide it. Who knows maybe many of the other victims would still be alive whether Dahmer spends his life earlier in prison from the killing that already happened at that point or in a mental hospital.
@@iprodigy6723 While you are right. Some people do empathise with Dahmer and excuse his actions
@@priyankarchakraborty3874 I get that and I'm sure some people do. The deeper dive into the series it gives you feelings of being able to emphasize with everyone affected from a young Dahmer before the killings and make you wonder what the trigger was, was he born that way? Was it the dissecting of the animals mixed with being abandoned and pawned off Here and there? When trying to talk about his feelings and what's going on and not knowing how to deal with it? Or a mixture of all of it. Makes you feel for the dad cuz he seemed to care about his son more than the mother but you really only see that side of the story, but the dad when trying to help when he goes to jail from the first kid who got away writes a letter but never followed up just hoped they would do it and moved on, and when it never happened he knew something else could go wrong. Then you also have feeling for what the people felt and what was going through their minds and the families on the pain they felt not knowing what has happened to their child, brothers, their friend. Then when he gets caught and hearing of body after body being found then the news when the police come to deliver the news. It's very sad all the way around that whether they would have taken the dad's letter to heart to see what's wrong and help him but that was a different time that I don't think mental health was looked into and nearly as big of a concern as today so they brushed it to the side all the way to law enforcements incompetence, that there could have been much less victims.
Seeing from the sides of the neighbour Glenda, and the victims family’s was the most shocking to me, as i’ve heard about this case a lot in the past but just watching from their point of view was truly haunting.
I loved this show but Glenda wasn't actually his neighbor, she lived in the building across from his complex. Pamela Bass was his real neighbor. The show combined the two
@@devin1442 then why was the other not mentioned??
@@vice2versa glenda wasn’t one of the ladies who saw the asian boy on the street either it was other teenage girls that called the cops
@@vice2versa nor did jeffrey dahmer force anyone to eat his free food/sandwiches … and they probably didn’t mention the actual neighbor bc maybe she doesn’t want to be known as dahmers neighbor or associated with him at all
Exactly. That's what made this show so real. Is because we've seen it in interviews. Courtrooms. Documentaries. When you grow up watching it presented in that fashion. We as the viewer are now naturally far removed from the seriousness of the crimes and the nature of it all. But this show puts us in the room with everyone that had been touched by the case. To see his parents pointing the finger at each other while privately blaming themselves was tearful. Seeing the victims with real lives, families, hopes and dreams and it all coming to a stop made me scream at the television. I caught myself pleading for their lives even when I knew how it would end. Other true crime stories aren't told like this.
You know a role was played extremely well when for a split second you find yourself feeling bad for the antagonist
yes! my sister and i were annoyed at ourselves for moments we felt bad for him!!! ughh! i was like wtfffff
Exactly. The whole situation is just unfortunate
@Brah yeah, true. You get absorbed in the show and almost forget it's a very true story.
I feel bad for him because something made him that way something that he had no control of but as the person you control your actions
Well people aren't born evil. They're made that way.. from other people that are evil.
The episode with tony was the most intense one for me. the inner conflict in dahmer was interesting from a psychological perspective. I felt real bad for Tony’s mother.
I wish this was just another fictional series that is not a big deal to be sad but it's a true story. No good mother deserves that. 😢
How about that episode when he offered his neighbor a sandwich 😮
@@chantellchikova2256 that actually happened , not to Glenda tho. Another neighbor said she got offered meat from him and it might have been human remains that she consumed.
One of my favorite scenes of the show was at Tony’s funeral when Jeff was going to approach his mother but then he friend hugged her which insinuated Jeff somewhat felt for her but knew he’d be caught by the friend who had seen him with Tony last. The acting and small nuisances in that scene, were done beautifully
I really like Tony, he seemed like a great, I'm not gay but I can see why someone would like him. It was so hard to watch I had to stop.
There’s no way Evan Peters didn’t go to therapy after filming this
Dude for FUCKIN real…I couldn’t imagine
It's called 'acting'.....why would he need therapy?.. he never committed the acts, he merely acted....
@@lynnecartwright3976 but he put himself into Jeff dahmers shoes…method actors get so into their roles that it can put them into a very dark place…it’s happened with many actors. Evan peters already went through therapy because of his American horror story roles…so try again
@@lynnecartwright3976 actors are nothing but humans..just because they are “acting” doesn’t mean it can’t affect them
@@lynnecartwright3976 I don't mean to sound harsh, but that is a seriously ignorant statement, not just uninformed, but very limited emotional intelligence wise. I'm sorry but I just had to say it. It can mess up with you to channel someone like that for as long has he had to do it. Actors do need coping mechanisms, and portraying certain roles can indeed leave a huge toll. Every single one of them has to have a shrink. They wouldn't be able to do it otherwise. I'm only speaking common sense and common knowledge.
Absolutely baffled by Evan Peters. Best actor I have ever watched in action. After watching the real Dahmer interviews, It's bone chilling to see how close of a resemblance he was. Perfect Casting and most importantly the series focused on everything. From him, to Glenda, his parents, racism, sexism and the collapse of American Society.
Yeah! Evan imitated so well the voice, accent and manner of speaking of Dahmer. The resemblance is uncanny…
Agree . The acting was damn near perfect
Not at all on the physical end, at all, he wasn't nearly as attractive or physically imposing, Dahmer was 6'2" with broad shoulders, evan is around 5'9"ish, so that aspect hurt the performance a little, but he ABSOLUTELY nailed the voice, accent, and mannerisms, so naturally.
@@submissivelover I think the directors purposely did that not to glamorize or fetishize him out of respect for the families . This happened in the 90s so all his Victims fsmilies are still around .
@@isavedharlem2079 idk if it glamorizes or bring home the sentiment that Monsters can come in very attractive packages too....and on a strictly acting/film level, it helps those scenes if the actor has the same vibe as the one he's portraying, which is a tall, goodlooking blonde man sitting at a bar, taking whomever picks him....Like Jack Reacher ( i know, out of left field) but it's the same, Tom Cruise didn't translate the imposing massive stature of the character, that played a huge rule in his social interactions, Alan Ritchson does because he's, like the character, 6'3" 250lb behemoth.
part of Jeffery was that, it helps to be the things Jeffery was, so you could possibly feel the way the victims felt, that this conventionally stunning, tall man could have gotten YOU, which is horrifying
I don't think he was glorified, they portrayed him as he was, a complete fuc up, total drunkard who couldn't do anything right, a loser, straight up.
I feel so bad for the victims and the neighbors who reported him over and over. The incompetence of the police in the series was sad and that phone call where the neighbor tried to still report it to the cops is straight up tragic, the cop said “mam situation is under control”, as a drugged 14 year old boy is being murdered as they speak during their phone call.
Why do they continue to glorify this Dahmer monster?
14 yrs old was lobotomized!
@@m.s9018 He was the one who ran away and the police 🚓🚨🚓 returned him to Jeffrey Dahmer. SMH 😲
@@suzygirl1843 Explain how the show glorifies him other than his fans who sent him mail?
@Dee They tend to do that a lot. Last King of Scotland made a up a white protagonist character entirely to be the vehicle to Idi Amin's life.
The father was brilliant. I actually cried at his torment.
Excellent video.
His confession of guilt just before Dahmer is taken to prison is heartwrenching
@@Reb3nga I've learned that he possibly sexually abused him. Not good. JD did tell this to a psychiatrist. Maybe that's why he felt so guilty. He was certainly let down by both parents. Neglected and rejected
Indeed, Richard Jenkins play struck me the most, such a great performance! He and Evan should be receiving a lot of nominations.
@@vanessas2363 That would make it even more tragic. This story has no winners, everyone lost. The victims, Dahmer, all the family members and friends.
@@vanessas2363 that was in the tv series too. But looking at how Dahmer was shameless, open about his life, wouldn't he have told? His father said Jeffrey was abused by a neighborhood kid at age 8. Dahmer said he felt guilt about being gay to his psychiatrist. So many stories. He was messed up, thats for sure.
If the first episode hadn’t been about the victim (Tracy Edwards) who managed to escape I don’t think I could have kept watching. That scene was so visceral and disturbing. The expressions of increasing panic and terror on Tracy’s face and the dirty, gritty scenery were very, very uncomfortable to witness. I actually did have to pause the episode and get some fresh air because the anxiety was getting to me. All that to say that choosing that scene to be the prelude to Jeffrey’s capture was a smart choice in avoiding at least some exploitation.
Same. I was more comfortable watching the rest realising that one victim survived and the mofo was caught.
You really had to pause it and get "fresh air"???
@@RegulaRegz732 I also had to step away for a few minutes after those photos were shown. Didn't help that I was also under the influence lol 🍄
Wow you guys are 🐱’s
I was crying as a man with the victims in movie. Jeffery didn't seem to notice how he was hurting families but it's done without hate so it's just sad no closure just broken families. Even his mom tried sucide
I watched Dahmer on Netflix the night it premiered. I recommend giving it a watch. I agree it was difficult to watch BUT it was a story well told. I remember when the Dahmer murders occurred and the Netflix series stayed very close to the facts. It exposed the full picture of what happened without glorifying Dahmer. It shed light on all aspects are still very relevant today. Dysfunctional and denial of mental health issues with a family dynamic, homophobic racist community policing policies and serial killer celebrity. All of which contributed to the continuation of Dahmer's killing spree. All and all the series was very well done. Evan Peters and Niecy Nash gave award winning outstanding performances. The writing, cinematography, music, props, etc., top notch. Ryan Murphy at his best. Recommended watch.
I am not sure how I feel about this series yet but you said that you don't think the show glorifies Dahmer. Can I ask what would glorifying look like to you? I'm curious to hear your perspective because it seems like what constitutes as "glorifying" can be a little unclear.
@@PorterNetwork I think by showing the victim's and families' perspectives you can't help but to think of all the pain he caused. Despite that he also struggled, there is no excuse for his behavior and the abuse he inflicted on his victims. I don't know if I explained myself... It's more or less what happens with Joker. Yes, he suffered (in this horrible world, who doesn't?), but that doesn't mean or give you permission or make it OK for you to hurt others. If you have a heart, watching what all the people surrounding the case go through what they went through, you won't give Jeffrey a pass or condone his actions.
Im confused why people say it’s difficult to watch? Seemed like a regular show to me
I also love Penelope as Joyce, shes a breathe of air and a scene stealer at the same time, i laugh on her scenes by her mannerisms as a relapse and trauma survivor - great job Ryan Murphy!
I can’t watch back to back episodes. It’s too much. That creepy psychedelic music 😩
It was the most compelling, gripping and addictive true crime drama I ever watched to date. Evan deserves recognition for his realistic portrayal.
Totally agree with you on that!
The Episode with Tony is one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen, even when I’m used to French Arthouse horror and more. I felt myself wanting to protect Tony. The character was so close to people I know and admire. They want the best for themselves and take care of themselves. To see that power and pureness crushed was devestating for me.
I was hoping Dahmer wouldn't kill him.
That particular episode is going to win a lot of Emmy awards!
@@LittleImpaler crazy thing is dahmer didn’t want to kill him but it’s like he couldn’t control it
I felt the same I was hoping damher wouldn’t kill him and I got kinda excited when I saw that he was able to have somewhat of a romantic relationship but at the same it was so uncomfortable seeing the psychological battle within damher and how his demons took over.
I know same here. Even though I knew what would eventually happen, I still kept hoping he'd be okay and Dahmer would change his ways for good. It made me forget that I was watching a series about a serial killer/cannibal whenever him and Tony interacted.
Evan deserves an Emmy 🙏🏻 this was a bone chilling performance he delivered.
What made this show so haunting on a technical standpoint was the cinematography, the color palette and the editing. The yellow and brown coloring was almost a metaphor of the grim and decaying aspects of death. Which is what made Dahmer’s case so grotesque, so morbid, and so diabolical. What made this show quite original as well was showcasing the PTSD and the aftermath of the events of the murder. Especially within the community, the bystanders and Glenda’s mental health. It affected everyone. While many people might see serial killer media as disrespectful or a money grab, I believe that this show was both educational and entertaining (on a more disturbing note rather than pure shock value). I think everyone’s opinion on this show or any kind of serial killer media is valid and I think these conversations are important and bring more awareness of the human psyche, the morbid aspects of life and bringing justice for the victims.
Yes the PTSD of his neighbors was so hard to watch and imagine…the scene where they have to sleep in the lobby of the building because they just couldn’t sleep in their own beds was heartbreaking
Absolutely, it's educational and learning about people like this is important. It will educate people about what kind of people are out there. It's important to be vigilant. I wouldn't say it's exploitative if it has educational value.
@@almasakic1148 I also think showcasing the dangers of meeting people at clubs was something that was very important to the story as well. Learning about the red flags of people that you meet could help save someone’s life. I was so scared watching these men being lured into his apartment.
yes! it was so well made. top notch cast and crew honestly.
The music and the ambience was something so different and it made it much creepier! I remember at one point pausing the show because there was a banging every now and again through one scene and I legit thought it was in the house but it was the music on the show. Very trippy, that and Evan Peters was outstanding and not enough credit is given to Richard Jenkins that man is superb!
Poor Evan. Playing such roles takes a toll on him, every ahs fan knows that. But he couldn't miss the opportunity to play dahmer and i know Ryan didnt trust anyone enough but Evan to portray him
I hope he is taking care of his mental health. I saw an interview where he is discussing how he prepared for the role and it was pretty tough.
I feel that evan peters is at a similar level as heath ledger ad an actor
@@agstinacueva1673 So do I.
@@thebelissima64 I think Murphy made sure he has a therapist.
@@ARD7177 That’s great to know, thank you. At least Evan won’t end up like Heath Ledger.
The series was intense. Evan Peters deserves an Emmy.
The part that impressed me the most with evans performance was how much he actually sounded like Jeff. It’s something to look and act like someone else, but to perfectly sound like them is absolute talent.
I was so glad to see the families perspective as well as the neighbors, especially Glenda. I hope both Evan Ross and Neicy Nash get Emmy noms because they were both absolutely amazing.
They told Glendas part well but she did not live in the building.
That’s true. She was a composite character. Her daughter and niece found Konerak naked and bleeding and called 911.
Neicy Nash displayed her dramatic skills in a huge way and rocked it! I’ve only ever seen her in that comedy Reno 911 . This is the first meaty role I’ve ever seen her in…so to speak.
Glenda wasn't his neighbour. She lived in a different apartment block
She wasn't there when the police were called about the 14 Yr old boy either. It was her nieces
The show has a number of inaccurate things
@Dee yes everyone reported the smell but noone complained about him persay bc they thought he was quiet and a bit odd, but no one thought bad of him.
Pamela Bass actually talked to him fairly often and never saw anything foreboding.
@@vonniedemers5683 she also the one who ate the sandwich. That she said might have been human remains.
No I thought it was mostly well done. What bothered me is halfway through the series I read an article about how some of the families of the victims are very upset about the show. They said it keeps being thrown in their face over and over. I still have 2 episodes to go. I also learned that Jeffrey's father is still alive. He's 86 now
Evan Peters KILLED IT as usual, let's not forget that he has played characters inspired by Charles Manson, Jim Jones and H.H Holmes he's always been an amazing actor.
What did he play jim jones on?
@@AfiOye American horror story
@@AfiOye American horror story season 7 cult. He played a few infamous cult leaders.
I'm not familiar with this actor, but does he do any comedy?? It can't be good for his psyche to constantly play disturbing characters
@@rucianapollard4057 he was in a x man movie but he's better known for his acting on American horror story and almost all of his characters on that show were very dark.
This show was uncomfortably brutal and realistic, to such extent I couldn't watch it without taking a mental break before continuing onto the next episode. I like horror movies, but this show is so psychologically terrifying that it makes you feel as if you are right there in the room, watching. This is a new kind of fear that I felt while watching the show. Hopefully Evan Peters is taking a mental break from that kind of role.
There is one specific line from the show that stuck to me, when he got arrested and muttered "for what I did I should be dead" under his breath sent chills down my spine.
I felt the exact same way and I could not bring myself to watch the rest of the episodes. For all the exact reasons you mentioned.
This dude Evan Peter's is such a great actor, been following his work since American horror story . He really got into this character, this is one dark and twisted show. I was 13 when Dahmer made the news, fucking crazy hearing about this at an age like that. DNA didn't even exist ,as well as the internet.
Yeah, I think CODIS began as a pilot in 1990 and formalized in 1994. Just think, CODIS could've helped a lot back then.
DNA testing in criminal cases actually did exist by then, it started being used in 1986.
I'm not sure when online criminal databases were created, but they definitely existed by the early 90s, too.
@@ember-brandt yeah only finger print DNA not skin hair fibers or fluid traces.
The episode silenced made me cry because Tony was so full of hope and light and was really looking for love like what most gay men strive for. He really thought he found it and he was so happy. His relationship with his family and friends too. It was too much to see his life cut short 💔 bless Tony and his family
It's suppose to be shocking. We need to see how the victims felt to teach parents not to mess up when it comes to their children's mental health. This is a cautionary tale, in a way.
I've heard Jeffrey's story a million times but with the way Peters portrayed it is different. It's like I personally got to peek inside his psyche and I hated every bit of it.
I cannot even imagine what Evan must've done to get the character so right that the viewers see him as Dahmer himself.
It was a great series. Very unsettling but very well acted and filmed
One of the reasons it made me uncomfortable was that I actually empathized with Dahmer, as portrayed by Evan Peters. Also the fact that Peters has undeniable star power and you're just glued to him whenever he's onscreen. There were many things Dahmer said throughout about how he felt powerless and things that resonated with me. This understanding and kinship I felt with a fucking serial killer was what was most disturbing to me. I know there are a lot of people out there who as teens did not fit in, were bullied, or had a difficult childhood and teen years, myself included. And it would be hard-pressed to say that none of Dahmer's statements rang true. But this is precisely what is so haunting--when you realize you, a normal nice person who would never dream of hurting someone like this, can actually empathize and put yourself in the shoes of someone most people would call a monster.
Me too, I felt gross for empathising with him but if the entire depiction is accurate then this is what got me, I couldn't organise my thoughts so have fun;
1. The mother taking mass pills during pregnancy, but mainly what the father said about the surgery at 4yo, if true it's like it put him on the spectrum, which ruined his social skills, leading to the isolation and alcoholism which exacerbated each other.
2. The isolation and alcohol addiction warped his already damaged mind, if you've drank long term and then quit you know how this works.
3. The sexual attraction to viscera and whatnot is a known condition, but how many of those people dissect roadkill with their father?
Also the timing of it all, he's been drinking for a few years, having dark thoughts, dissecting road kill, then the drinking gets worse right when school ended, his parents leave, he starts fantasising about the hitchhiker and the booze makes you indulge in those type of thoughts, especially if you're constantly alone, not to mention how impulsive, reckless and confident alcohol makes you, so he pulls the stunt but ends up hanging out with Steven anyway, and 'accidentally' kills him, and having the knowledge, manages to dispose of the body, and realising in the process what he was capable of, that it got him what he wanted and how easy it was.
I also began theorising that the autistic traits he had could've been big factors in why he couldn't stop himself, and how he was treating them like objects rather than people, which is actually similar to a porn addiction, going back to the obsessive nature of Jeff himself.
In summary, it made me realise he was possibly just a slightly damaged person that received the perfect cocktail of life experiences that shaped him into something horrific. The show could be quite misleading though.
That's the worst about Dahmer. You watch his real life interviews and end up feeling sorry for him. It's the only serial killer I've felt that for. And it's so weird and awful to find human sympathy for someone so inhuman. It's easy to hate Ted Bundy, who was so arrogant. But Dahmer projects a feeling of horrific and absolute loneliness, like the Frankenstein monster. Like maybe he's also a victim. He makes me question everything I believe about the nature of evil.
@@rociomiranda5684 I think that feel empathy for someone like Dahmer only shows that you have a good heart, after all he was human too, his psychiatrist said that he was sad when he heard Dahmer was murdered, I think we never truly understand his mind and why he committed those atrocities, my heart feels more for the victims and their families.
@@rociomiranda5684 I guess what makes people sympathize with him is that he did try to control his urges, fantasies for some years but he didn’t receive psychological help he needed and that’s why things went south
his killings could have been prevented if only he was able to process his fantasies with a professional and to heal his feeling of lack of control and adandonment issues
Dr. Park Dietz did an amazing analysis of Jeffrey dahmer.
Evan peters deserves all the praise and awards for this. Ryan Murphy did an amazing job from casting to the victims point of view. I had to take a break after episode 2.
This was a gripping, unsettling, absolutely amazing series. It was shocking and realistic, I felt like a witness. The episode with the deaf man was so gut-wrenching, that one will stay with me for a long time. I’m completely in awe of how the different eras were captured, having lived through them myself…may those who died Rest In Peace. I feel for those who have/had to live with the aftermath of Dahmer’s murders, and for those who cried for help but whose cries were ignored.
In the early 90's, I met this hot but weird guy in a bar in Asheville, NC and as we were leaving he stopped to talk to a guy. I couldn't hear because the music was loud. I had friends outside and they took off with me to party at another bar. The guy walked with us but then just left. I went to that bar a few weeks later and the guy sitting at the bar said, "Girl I'm so glad you're OK! That guy you left with said, "I'm taking this sweetie home and I'm going to kill him. I'm going to fuck him up. Watch the papers." I never saw that guy again. This series freaked me the fuck out. This guy had black hair and gorgeous blue eyes. He said was traveling through. I hope he didn't hurt anyone and thank god for my friends.
The Tony episode made me shed a tear. Jeff was SICK but I also blame the parents. Mom on drugs, and Dad just not even realizing how sick his son was made me so mad!
I agree but there are people who’s family life was even worse and they didn’t turn into serial killers
@@michi9152 i know. That's why I emphasized that he was SICK as in he made his own choices
This show was terrifying. It made me feel really sad for the victims knowing how it ended for all of them
It just a regular show wasent even scared stuff like this like this happends irl
@@EliTheRula 🍪
@@EliTheRula no shit...
Episode 6 was phenomenal. Such great acting, directing and writing.
It made me so bad for tony. Rest in peace😔
I fell in love with the chap playing Tony he was adorable
Episode 6 hit me the hardest. Heartbreaking.
It hurt my soul honestly. This whole series has been a punch in the gut.
This whole series is incredible, but Episode 6 was beyond phenomenal. Everything about it was just... on another level, and I was actually speechless by the end of it. Wow... just... wow...
Man that first episode was sooooo intense
It was something different. Ive not seen anything like that in such a long time!
@@BrainPilot I’m gonna be honest with you when I first saw the show the first episode I had no idea it was the guy that survived Jeffrey Dahmer so I didn’t recognize his name so I had no idea that he was gonna survive because I was scared for him I was questioning Rather he was going to survive or not so I was kinda surprise at the end when I found out it was the guy that survived Jeffrey Dahmer so they kinda did a good job at surprising me
Looks like someone hasn’t watched the 6th one yet 😞
@@Currency1001 no i watched all of the episodes
@@dudleydursleyasagirl6416 I grew up remembering it as a little boy. So the story made sense to me the first episode
The first episode in particular was extremely stressful viewing; the slow pace of the narrative, the dark lighting, the grim apartment, the impending attack, Dahmer’s drunken haze and Tracy Edwards’ fear. My heart was beating out my chest for the full hour.
Evan Peters and the actor who played Lionel Dahmer absolutely deserve an emmy for this. Astounding acting.
I watched it because I like Evan Peters. I wanted to see how well he portrayed Dahmer. Just knowing what Jeffrey did was disturbing and haunting. I was only 13 when I learned about it. There isn't enough words to describe it. I learned a lot I didn't know by watching this. Like the police lack of concern and how if they would have done their job so many lives could have been saved. I also learned that is parents and his upbringing created the monster he became.
Police incompetence is the hardest part to watch in all true crimes series for me personally
I liked the insight and how it didn’t glorify his actions and stayed true to it, but in a weird way there may have been nothin to really do to change him. Was it the upbringing, the use of drugs by his mother when she was pregnant or was it just how he was born. It’s the kinda question that was said at the end that puts we may never truly know why him or people like him do things like this . Maybe it was a mix of his upbringing and the drug use by his mother while she was pregnant or maybe it was just who he was
@@wa_demon__9156 Monsters are often made. Even if the propensities are in the DNA.
I enjoy the show- The acting, pacing, directing, soundtrack, ambience and vibe/production is all on point. Bravo.
However my issue with the series is how they portray nearly every white person (cops, judges, Jeffery, his dad, his mom, victims, bullies) as racist/prejudiced, mean, angry, confused, insane, anxious etc.... while nearly every black person (victims, family, neighbors, bystanders) are portrayed as confident, collected, friendly, loving, clear-headed, etc....
Obviously its mostly based on facts and events..... but it feels like they reallllllllly tried to squeeze the wokeness out of this by centering it around black/gay victimhood and tried to use Jefferey himself as the "white boogie man"..... Even the more neutral characters (lacking obvious bad traits) are eventually portrayed as bad like his grandma portrayed as a prejudiced Christian lady.... I thought just maybe 1 white character could lack a terrible trait..... but nope they try to piss on everyone.... except every black character which is portrayed with nearly ZERO bad traits besides being too nice and trusting.
If realism is what they were after, they did a bad job because not every white person is bad, and not every black person is good. Can we have some realistic characters? They were beating a dead horse with the amount of times they try to convey the idea that white people are prejudice...... its not true and that idea is RACIST in itself
I do feel bad for the good black people that experienced racism.. but I ALSO FEEL BAD FOR THE WHITE/ASIAN/INDIAN/LATINO/BLACK VICTIMS of black gangs that rob and murder people
They make it seem like a crime to acknowledge the fact that many cities are unsafe MOSTLY because of black criminal gangs.... saying that doesn't mean you are racist
It just means you realize the reality of the space around you... however I do agree OBVIOUSLY that we should treat individuals with respect.... I have many black friends and they all agree with me, this show REALLY tries to make each and every white character "bad" in some way.... its propaganda straight up. I am Mexican and the anti-white bias is obvious.
@@tremblence I agree. I don’t understand why that point isn’t obvious to everyone. How can they think that everyone of a specific race is all good or all bad? People come in all kinds. But Hollywood is doing this a lot because lately white hate is very popular and people take a lot of comfort in blaming everything on white people and taking out their anger for their own life on them. Is only gonna create more culture tension and therefore perpetuate the problem. But if you point this out they call you racist because you’re no irrational and can understand that all cultures have had a bad past and some terrible things and we can’t punish the great great great great grandchildren of people who wronged your ancestors in the past. If this was so the Jews would still be trying to get revenge on the German and stuff like that. This is why wars continue and why humanity will never have peace. People want revenge instead of studying the history, learning it, understanding it was terrible and shameful, yet never repeating it again. It’s scary it almost feels like the supremacy will soon shift and the race war will never end. Most of us also come from ancestors who were enslaved, and raped, stripped of their lands, and tortured, but we just want peace.
What a well done show with amazing performances, but it was probably the most uncomfortable series I have ever watched. Felt uneasy throughout, yet could not stop watching.
The episode about Tony was the most heartbreaking! You so want it to turn out and you know it won’t. This really highlights the victim more than anything I have ever seen. A tragedy! My prayers too the victims, families, even Jeffery.
I loved it. I have no words. I just binge watched the whole thing. Major kudos about what sounds to me, the final chapter of this story. I hope families found peace after watching, especially the last few episodes. I was happy that the families got a voice. It was really put well together. Just a fascinating story. Insanely well acted. Haunting. Sad. So many reflections in the last episode. Very well written.
This show was a masterpiece. Very haunting. Peter’s nailed it
This is the best adaptation made of his life. Hands down.
So haunting
Episode 8 with the girl yelling in the courtroom, was phenomenal acting!
It was. I've seen different movies and they aren't as good as this. I think making it a series was a good idea because we saw all the details of his crimes and how it affected his family, victims, families and the community.
The manner in which this story was told was a refreshing difference. I'll admit, it took me 2 days to finish watching the first episode. It was overwhelming. And, when I saw there were 9 more, I felt like I'd need a psychologist after. I came out being angry at the system. A feeling I never had watching other adaptations.
The storytelling style is very similar to another Netflix show, When They See Us. The last episode of that series took me almost a week to finish. My heart couldn't take it.
Dahmer's story is one too familiar for minority groups. Dahmer targeted his victims. He was fully aware of his privilege.
The system allowed this evil man to avoid arrest, I believe at least 3x. First one was when he murdered Hicks. Dahmer was 18 yrs old then. The incompetent cops should have been arrested in aiding a serial killer. I know it's wishful thinking.
You hit it on the head. He said he picked his victims because they were attractive, but no, he picked them because he knew that the cops wouldn't go out they way to find homosexual, young, black men being murdered.
@@SoRealBeauty that’s not true. dahmer picked his victims based on attractiveness. he said that he “hated no one” and that his acts were not out of hate. he didn’t lie in any interview, he wasn’t lying about that.
Absolutely incredible. Ryan and Evan deserve major awards for this piece.
Yeah, Evan delivered the performance so convincingly it’s scary!
Anyone else noticed the actor sounds exactly like the real dahmer?
His laid-back manner as well ...
This serious was soo dark, I felt so depressed after watching it…
From the very first episode, I Was Hooked!! Evan played Jeffrey absolutely brilliantly, he deserves some kind of award for his performance. Watched the whole lot in 2 days and the fact they brought John Gacy in this... Wow... So Creepy But So Good!! If you've not watched this... IT'S A MUST!!
The woman who played the next door neighbor MUST get an Emmy! That was one of THE BEST performances I have ever seen. I literally forgot it was an actor. I thought it was really her. I was literally sucked in like a vortex. This entire show was haunting AND spectacular.
Best acting role award of 2022 hands down has to go to Evan.
Completely disagree and don’t know where you’re getting all these things that were “controversial”. I’ve seen nothing but praise for how things were handled with this show. The episode “silenced” wasn’t disrespectful at all, perhaps you just didn’t get it at all. By the sounds of the review you didn’t. These were actual people, not a storyline. The show didn’t create moments to make us “uncomfortable”, the entire real life murders were uncomfortable. They didn’t show excessive gore, again, what show did you watch, because if you actually read or knew of the graphic things he actually did, you would know that. We didn’t see him dismember anyone, eat anyone’s genitals, violently rape their corpses, or the other horrific things he did.
Filmmakers can't win. Either they show too much (which is just the truth) and it's exploitative or they don't show enough which people see as glorifying the killer. I think this series straddles this line pretty well.
I agree! There is literally only 3 people mad about it, and the others just do not like gore. The fact that is is "hard to watch" just proves how good it is. It should not be an easy thing to watch. Its one of the worst things that someone has done in recent history.
I’ve never seen more respect paid to the victims of a serial killer than in this series. Tony will not be forgotten. They told us who that man was and it makes me wanna freakin cry that he was murdered like that.
This story has haunted me since the 90’s. I can only imagine how getting into the headspace of these characters played out on the actors. I hope Evan is okay.
From personal experience I can imagine the victims' family pain/irritation created by the constant reminders of this traumatizing event
I can't even imagine why anyone involved would watch it...
Someone from one of the families legit made a statement on Twitter saying that shows like these only re-traumatize them and they weren’t even consulted prior to it being filmed.
@@plsstfu3053 why watch it then? Like I just don’t understand watching somthing that’s bound to trigger you. (As in the family).
@@plsstfu3053 And why should anyone be consulted? This serial is based on a true story which the world knows, recreating an old story as a serie is none of their business.
@@plsstfu3053 yeah I seen that same tweet. Like I understand this is something that horribly horribly happen, but the families should not have to keep reliving it & hearing about it. I can’t even imagine the pain, the hurt, the effect it took on them mentally afterwards. Like I truly hope this is it.
2nd comment: Also don't watch it if you know you cant handle this type stuff. Don't torture yourself so you can join the conversation
Extremely heavy but very very well done. Horrifying, in a realistic way yet doesn't have to leverage gore nearly at all.
Extremely well-done series. One of the most unsettling crime dramas I've seen, period. There is an ominous, eerie feeling about the setting and the crimes that is unmatched.
Great review! Just finished the series. I agree it is haunting. Not a fan of the perspective. We have a lot of movies that follow this serial killer. If it was up to me, I would have created a series completely devoted to the victims. Where we follow the last days of their lives before meeting him. In my version he would have been played by a different actor in each episode to stress the importance of his insignificance. My final episode would have been the story of the life of the inmate right up to the moment he killed him.
I also learned I have the same birthday as Dahmer. That was disturbing
You have probably a different year, month, time of birth and life experience that makes a huge impact.
Did Jeff ever eat anyone on his birthday?
@@michele110 yes definitely. In 78 but it is the year he started killing. But you are right my life is very different from his. I grew up in a good home and I wouldn't fathom doing what he did. I don't even like to kill bugs
Many people cannot finish the series? The final episode is my favorite, particularly the scenes with the solar eclipse backdrop! And the actor who played Scarver had me teary-eyed. It was awesome.
The perspective of Glenda, and the victim's and their families was the ONLY thing that made this series stand out from all the other Dahmer biopics
So the fabricated and exaggerated parts then, gotcha.
@@caged9984 glenda was a real person… they just combined his actual next door neighbor, pamela, with Glenda… not fabricated or exaggerated. it still happened, just with different people.
@@caged9984 Tell me you didn't watch the show without telling me you didn't actually watch it .....
They should make this a series. I can totally see myself watching Monster: Gacy, Gein, Ramirez, Harris/Klebold, Kemper, Huberty.
That would be AMAZING
Yea this was enough for me…that little section featuring Gacy solidified that for me…I know that others might enjoy a series and I think they that they would do a decent job considering what they did with this story but I just can’t take it
@@HerbalQueen same it would be too much to handle for me aswell
Throw in Ted Bundy and Henry Lee Lucas
Err... I don't think so. I seriously think this one Monster series is enough. I suppose Dahmer was chosen as subject matter because his criminal behaviour is not exactly psychopathic. Which can be rather baffling to quite a number of criminologists.
i think that may actually be the plan, because on the last episode they had segments showing good lookalike actors playing john wayne gacy and ed gein, so maybe they are a teaser of what is going to be made next
Evan Peters deserves an Emmy. Excellent acting.
What I really appreciated about this series was how they focused on different perspectives of the victims/people involved instead of only Jefferys pov. Though the victims sadly cannot tell their side, at least we can somewhat hear their voice through their familys experiences etc and its just a very saddening , raw, eye opening series. I was skeptical about watching this at first since I tend to stray away from horror content but I'm very impressed by the actors and how it was created. Hoping those that were involved are doing okay with this series now trending :(
Episode 6 made me sob
The parents created a monster, literally.
And this prick was doing all type of sick shyt and wasn't going to jail for it, the drugging people at the bathhouses should've put him in jail.
Yes I felt they ignored what he was becoming because they were caught up in their own misery. There are a lot of "if only's" to consider. Had they got him psychiatric intervention as a boy, things might have not have escalated.
@@poppyfield1619 Yea I believe with some help it could've changed him at a young age. But yea those pills she was taking with him in the womb did some damage as well. I had 5 kids and was very careful what I took.
Oh yes 😢 fk parents useles mom on drogs and dad make him to open animal and make him hobi that lolll
You hold the parents accountable for his crimes, so maybe law enforcement should had released Jeffery and arrested them instead, right?
I've watched this entire show twice, on the night of the premiere and another time with a friend, I think it's one of the best takes on this story, it really captures the darkness, Evan and Ryan murphy deserves awards for this, I hope they expand on John and Ed too in the future.
The dude who played gacy looked so much like him
@@alienextraterrestrial113 bruh that was a hard scene for me to watch he was so fucking brutal!
Saw documentary on the man, just finished watching the show today, and now I’m here. Evans did a phenomenal job portraying Jeffry. Bring light to the victims suffering and the perspectives of each family humanized them even further as it demonized Dahmer’s actions. Great discussion on the series.
I've been researching serial killer for decades & what Ryan Murphy did was nothing g dirt of brilliant. It gives a new perspective not seen before and the visceral impact it has given the streaming community is pure gold.
The 80s soundtrack was nice as well lol. Noel - Silent morning that was the jam
they also had Enigma which amazed me
The scenes that truly disturbed me was always glenda’s POV imagine having a neighbour like dahmer and hearing him kill,torture and fucking cook all those innocent people every night and despite your best efforts no one and I mean NO ONE will listen to you. If that were me idk if I could ever live a normal life again.
it wasnt actually glenda she lived across the street
or nearby not next door
@@serenahopeisabella2226 oh I see! In the show she was his next door neighbour and heard all the shit dahmer was doing regardless I hope real Glenda was able to move on from this
I had never been so confused and look away as I did my sudoku from the first episode. I was like is he going to die or not and I hoped he would make it. the first episode was heart stopping. regards from Kenya.
Great vid new sub 👍🏾
Watching from all the different POVs was the big eye opening part. No movie has shown how these acts affected to whole country.....Powerful and very scary......great movie
The most haunting Scene is when Glenda Cleaveland got back on the Apartment, when she still heard the scream of the Victims..
Thank you for discussing episode 6! That was my favorite & I bawled my eyes out for Tony & his family.😭 Niecy Nash & Evan Peters deserve all accolades allowed.👏👏
Glad you enjoyed the video!
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The show is clearly well researched. But there are fictional elements. Glenda wasn’t his neighbor. She lived in another building. But she did call the police after she and her nieces found the boy naked and bleeding. Then she contacted the FBI after she saw his missing poster. But other neighbors did complain about the smells and noises.
The tony Hughes’s episode was just so upsetting I cried all the way through it the actor Rodney burford did an amazing job
I think the most gutwrenching part was when jeff called tonys sister and said "the vortex got him" its important to not show tony get murdered directly because the entire episode we feel connection and trust from tony, then nothing. It leaves our imagination to handle the rest. Truly a horrific tradgedy and an amazing show for not glorifying a killer, but showing just how terrible their actions were.
i finished this series in a night and later the next day, i love true crime and gorey shit so this was right up my alley. the way they portrayed everything you felt as if you were there with them. amazing series i’ll definitely be waiting for the tapes of him talking about his crimes.
The audio! That damn vent! Ugh Actually really glad the series included Ms. Glenda’s perspective because I honestly never considered just how much she went through. That sit down with the “sandwich” was intense! Strong woman!
I live in Wisconsin. Not even an hour from mikwaukee. My father remembers working at Mercury marine in his late 20’s, hearing this story live on the radio. The whole place shut down and they just listened in.
In some ways, this is a cautionary tale about trusting “nice” strangers you don’t know. It’s also about racism, homophobia and sexism.
I’d argue racism but homophobia and sexism?
@@JB-pp1kt A lot of his victims died because they were gay and either didnt have family or the police didnt give a fuck because they were gay or black.
There was no racism, or homophbia, or sexism. People need to stop using these words out of content. Back then people knew about homosexuality, and didn't care. They had gay clubs, bathhouses back then. The thing with the cops wasn't racism. It had to do with incompetent, lazy cops.
It isn't like today people constantly shoving their sexuality in your face and yelling treat me special because I am black, gay, trans, or whatever. Were there hate crimes back then yes. There's still hate crimes today.
The problem was with Dahmer. He had nobody to talk too. His parents weren't in his life so he didn't learn to have healthy attachment with them. He had major abandment issue. If he had someone to talk too he would have been a different person.
The cops were homophobic and chose not to investigate further because they were grossed out by "gay stuff". Dahmer's family didn't seem super open about it either
Of course because what Netflix show can’t persuade people that every horrible action is somehow related to racism and sexism?
Man my dad lived on the floor below that man when they dropped this I called my dad right away shit was so crazy he even had encounters with him described him as a freaking weirdo and knew he was on some weird shit
This show does look very well done. But I don’t know if I can watch it. I lived only blocks away from his grandmother’s house in West Allis at the time all of this occurred. I remember all the coverage on local news. My best friend’s mother was the receptionist at his doctor’s office and met him once. I noticed in the clips you were showing there is a scene on a Ferris wheel. I already know that he had been arrested at the WI Stare Fair that was less than a mile from my house. As kids in the 80s we rode city buses, we biked all over… we went to the fair all the time. My mind goes crazy wondering if our paths ever crossed. I really don’t know if I want to see the details depicted knowing I lived so close to true evil. It makes you wonder about the bad people out there, and those we don’t know about that are living in our midsts. My heart still goes out for those victims and their families.
Having just watched the series, I appreciated the fact that they showed the victims as more than just victims. They portrayed them as actual people whose lives were filled with hopes & dreams & people who loved them. They also reminded us that while the killer's names are always remembered by society, all too often the names of the victims are not. And that the families left behind, including those fo the killer never have the opportunity to truly get closer. I would recommend watching it if anyone wants to understand the impact of a serial killer from the point of view of those whose lives he/she/they destroy.
Evan Peters is a fantastic actor, as is Neicy Nash. Can't WAIT to watch this...
Totally agree!
I thought Evan was amazing in this. Also the young actor who played him as a child. I was impressed by the way the victims and other people in JD's life were portrayed in a more intimate way especially Glenda and Tony. I also thought the flashback parts were a very informative and clever way of showing the possible reasons why JD became that way.
The music and the ambience was something so different and it made it much creepier! I remember at one point pausing the show because there was a banging every now and again through one scene and I legit thought it was in the house but it was the music on the show. Very trippy, that and Evan Peters was outstanding and not enough credit is given to Richard Jenkins that man is superb!
It was like you were transported to the scene watching helplessly right beside
Evan is now on my top actors list. Whatever he plays next I’ll be watching without hesitation.
They ALL deserve an award 💔🤍
The credit tune also really helped with the eeriness
Yeah too right!
Dude this was really well made amd very spooky! What a great actor!
The show kinda traumatized me I couldn’t sleep after… the story makes me so mad and sad … there were mixed emotions I felt which rly frustrated me the reason why I couldn’t sleep rly…and it made me think about life how fragile it is … I was so angry at the police for doing nothing they were so incompetent and neglecting 🤬… May the victims Rest In Peace… This guy rlly F-Ed up my head what a MANIAC
Kudos to Evan Peters he did a great job…❤
I believe this show was masterful. I feel like it can't be disrespectful for seeing things through the victims eyes because if you don't try to tell the story from their possible point of view, you'd be cheating them out of a voice. The show would just turn into another slasher flick. The audience not only won't take it seriously or personally, but won't understand the gravity of the situation. On how very real the victims were and how real the killer is. Because we only get to see the story played out in documentaries and courtrooms. Which makes us so far removed from the seriousness of what has happened. A lot of people don't realize that the victims stories had been washed away as soon as the case was over. As soon as that apartment building was taken down. Their memories had been pushed into the void. This show brings them back in a way and shows us where we failed as a society and where we don't want to return. And how we shouldn't take serial killers lightly. Because they're not fictional. They're very very real. Their victims are very very real.
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Which respect to the families. But this story's already been told. Time and time and time again. Just not as in depth from their side. I did not know dahmer grew up in bath, & youngest victim was lao.
I think it comes off more chilling now than ever is because we are getting more of a outside perspective of people that were in the mix of all this. His immediate family like his grandmother, she was so easy to fool by Jeff.
His dad seemed to be very dismissive to the point where he tried to cover up for Jeff by sending him to college and the military, when you could obviously see something greater is wrong.
Glenda’s involvement in all this really shows how negligent the MPD was, which makes it sickening knowing that he could of been stopped months prior.
Also getting to know the few spotlighted victims throughout the series. Tony and Konerak’s story is so sad, because both them being the most vulnerable victims and Jeff having no sympathy for a child and a person with a disability.
This series allows us to know much more than most of us would have ever known.
This series was amazing! The actors, sequences, and reality were very well executed. I feel it did focus on the victims, as well as their families. Also how Dahmers family were affected, without outright empathy for Dahmer. Its not for the faint of heart, but the true grisly scenes were executed by sound effects, and the actors responses. Very well done, can be confusing at times, but came together perfectly. It was compelling and haunting. Everyone involved deserves praise for their performances.
What was the significance of the Whale sounds throughout the series? I've been racking my brain around it for the last few days....what did it mean? they're elegant and haunting sounds but, was that the only reason they were there?