How to "Subvert Expectations" Correctly (Last Jedi/Infinity War Analysis)
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Thanos banned yr old Roblox and fortnite account
Smash collab?
Can you do a video about Chicken Little?
What's the song used at 9:27?
I liked the movie.
"Strange won't let Tony die"
Man that quote didn't age well...
Kaden Hensley that’s what “not ageing well” means.
@Kaden Hensley r/woooosh
@Kaden Hensley that's called not ageing well.
the world's most awesome variety channel Calm down.
@@TheAdvertisement no, he spoiled endgame for me
The part where they find Thanos and kill him is actually a great scene despite its slightly disappointing way of avenging the people who got snapped away by Thanos- but that's just it. It's unsatisfying. Even with the death of the main villain, the heroes still lost because the damage the villain caused still remains. It's a moment you'd think there'd be a huge fight, but no, the huge fight already happened, and untimely the villain won
And the line Thor says “I went for the head..”
That’s when his depression started. It was heartbreaking, knowing Thor lost everything, only to kill Thanos, but also knowing it won’t bring the Dusted back.
@@crimz_ I was frustrated when people laughed at that or thought it was an ill timed joke. I am frustrated when people say Thor was thrown away as a fat joke and not epic.
So many people completely MISSED THE POINT.
God, I love Thor in Endgame so much. It's such a heartbreaking and ACCURATE portrayal of his grief, depression, guilt, and the weight of the personal responsibility he felt he had to stop Thanos.
You see him eating and drinking before they leave earth, an early indication of his grief consumption, you have the line of, "I went for the head" as a haunting mantra that he can't let go, you have him dropping his "funny fat guy routine" the moment he hears Bruce say Thanos' name, because he's not fat and funny, he is broken and traumatized.
To slowly see that damaged man speak to his mother, realize that it's ok to hurt and to fail, and to realize that for all his shortcomings, "[He's] still worthy." SO GOOD.
And then at the end he suits up with Mjolnir AND Stormbreaker looking like a freaking Viking? I'm sorry, TELL ME HOW THAT'S NOT EPIC?!
Also, can we appreciate that he didn't just get fit again at the end? He has started to heal emotionally, but his physical state shows there are still wounds, but that he has begun his path to restoration.
OK, I'll stop. I just love it so much.
@@user-jt1js5mr3f yeah I completely agree with you. Or not completely but I do think that fat thor is soooo good for his character. Gives him more depth he is shown as an actual person and not a “does thou wear thine drapes” looking ass. Thor ragnarok infinity war and endgame (and slightly age of ultron too) are the good and interesting version of thor in my opinion.
@@user-jt1js5mr3f the problem a lot of people have with thor in endgame is that his story doesnt get a satisfying ending, but i thought it was pretty obvious he wasnt supposed to have one, becuase its not over yet
@@tossboy2643 Which I can see, but that adds to the fact that people upset by that weren't paying attention.
Agreed, his story is not over yet and I am very happy about that.
I loved where we last saw him because he was beginning to heal, his future had hope again.
It’s also amazing that Infinity War was portrayed in Thanos’s point of view. It was his movie; his hero’s journey. In his mind, he’s the hero trying to save the universe while the Avengers are the villains trying to see to the universe’s ultimate destruction
How does this has no reply?
Dang I never thought of it that way
Damnnnn that’s deep
That’s very interesting,thank you.
That’s why I felt so emotionally invested and it even made me care and admire Gamora and Nebula far more. Because outside of explanation from the two guardian movies, we never really had a sort of sense of dread for these two until we learned and saw Thanos’s plans and motivations in Infinity War
"Rey's parents aren't special, they're nobody!"
*are you sure about that*
Yes, her parents are nobody’s it’s her grandparents that are powerful
@@zeusesparza1291 And the movie didnt even care to explore how palpatine got a woman pregnant and his fucking son grew up knowing who his father was and they trying to hide rey. no let us just put 30seconds of jumpcutted scenes into the movie to explain this shit
@Lucas Choi I wish Rey died and ben solo was the one to be the last Skywalker, it makes so much more sense.
@@JonnyBeetle i don't wanna see a palpatine sex scene tbh
Jonny Beetle Palpatine wasn’t even Rey’s grandfather. Her father was a non-evil clone, meaning that he is biologically her father.
When Snoke dies he makes a face that makes him look like he finally took his first dump after 10 million years
He looks like tha dump doe 😳
This genuinely made me laugh 🤣
He do be making a dump doe😳
Well, when people die, their bowels tend to... well...yeah.
when you ate nothing but cheese for years and have to crap for the first time in a century
"You should've gone for the head" and "All that for one drop of blood" will be quotes remembered for years
That “all that for a drop of blood” quote is even more genius, because remember what Whiplash told Tony in Iron Man 2
“If you could make God bleed, people would cease to believe in him”
@@SpairM that's what I thought instantly when be said that
@@jeesonkallukkaran8140 I do
@@jeesonkallukkaran8140 You don’t remember Iron Man 2.
@I Wetted Myself Uwu well darn you. Keep your opinions to yourself(doesn't even know what sarcasm is)
I'm kinda disappointed that you showed the scene where Thanos beats the guardians, but not the part that actually surprised me about it. That Quill was actually willing to follow through on his promise to Gamora, despite it being the last thing he wanted to do. Sure it was irrelevant, as Thanos managed to succeed anyway, but I was genuinely shocked.
Man, when I saw that in the theatre, you could cut the tension with a knife. That scene is designed to counterbalance the humanization Thanos gets, and it WORKS SO GOOD. That whole scene is just him fucking with Quill's emotions, trying to break an opponent who already really can't fight back.
I don’t know why but when Thanos says “I like this one” after Quill shoots it hit’s me so hard.
@@ihavenoclueeither Probably because Quill was so willing to sacrifice for the greater good and would, despite all his hurt and emotions, kill Gamora for the safety of his family. Something an aspect he was given from his selfless mother, and not his egotistical father
@@ihavenoclueeither that’s because sacrificing Gamora for the greater good was top on the bucket list that day.
My thoughts exactly
I can't get over how that mom in the theatres had to reassure her daughter that she wouldn't disappear. That is when you know Marvel does a good job.
But can you imagine?
The mom is just like: "Don't worry, you're not gonna disapp-" then she just vanishes.
It was heartbreaking because while in Justice League, the entire universe was blown up and destroyed, Infinity War slowly and steadily killed people and the entire universe
I had to reassure my nephew, who was about 11 at the time, that all the characters who died will be back in the next movie.
That would be so fucking traumatizing
You should have seen my dad! One second he was their, next second, Thanos snap
go watch The Leftovers
"Strange won't let Tony die"
well, *NOT YET*
*"It was the only way"*
Thank you "ralsei with a gun"
@@marianitamr3751" You lack imagination. "
@@yxlop4893 ????
@@marianitamr3751 Haven't watched Dr. Strange?
The people next to me groaned when Rose “Saved” Finn
Well it probably wasn’t me but I certainly groaned when that happened. If that happened then I would probably like Finn, and maybe even the movie more.
You didn’t?
Yeah, I didn’t feel like anything was at stake since the sequels hadn’t sacrificed anything. So when I thought Finn would sacrifice himself and that they would let him die, it would get interesting. But he didn’t, instead they made the love interest stop him. And then they forgot her. Just to add another. They really ruined him, and just to clear I did like him in the first movie.
The people next to me flipped off the screen and left the theater
I'll be honest, I laughed.
Finn's character arc was at an end.
Rose was selfish and developed her character arc with it.
That subversion was funny to me. Because it felt naturally idiotic. Almost like a real mistake.
When Loki says to Thanos "You will never be a god" and Thanos smiles as he kills Loki, a god, will always give mw chills
puny god
Looking back, Schaff subverted our expectations by actually talking a lot more about Last Jedi than Infinity War
and adding a retarded political talking point right at the end!
Like a dumbass.
12:45 "Can Ant-man help with that?"
He sure can
Kokodragostinov Dragostinov Thanos Anos
Haha true
Time travel
@@ZoobiethePopplio the theory in which Ant-man goes into the Thanos anus and expand.
No, but Regular Sized Man can
The Avengers subverted expectations in a way that added to the plot, The Last Jedi subverted expectations in a way that took away from it.
Or didn't dare to go for it. If Rey and kylo worked together it would be a GOOD plottwist that could make it an interisting development. The only reason this didn't happen was because it would f*** up the universe and would be to special...
Goddmnt Disney
I was thinking that awhile back. Rey just lost everything and was fighting back tears. Her turn to the Dark Side would have been so fascinating to me. For all the "subverting expectations" and making the story unpredictable for excitement, it seems Rian thought that her change would have been too much for some reason.
@@Wowreference either her turning dark or kylo joining the jedis wouldve been a better ending than what it was
@@gentleshark972 They will not let Rey fails and join the darkside because They want Rey to be sTrONg FeMAle ChaRAcTeR
Thanos: **is crying**
This dude: **plays 'Take On Me' in the background**
I'm glad someone else picked this up, I had to rewatch a few times to make sure I didn't have Deadpool 2 playing somewhere
Yeah I noticed that, so odd.
Yep
3:25
“Hey! I saved your life!”
“You didn’t save my life, you ruined my death!”
I don’t think I can ever describe this scene using my own words, I can only use this quote.
Yep,that's it in a nutshell.
C J, perfect way to describe and it’s a reference to the greatest animated movie ever so it’s even more perfect now
Is that a death korps of krieg quote?
@@ASuspiciouslyCommunistToaster It's a reference to The Incredibles.
czcams.com/video/J4J-Fuo0vLE/video.html at 0:25
@@ASuspiciouslyCommunistToasterit’s a quote from the incredibles
And for the record, the first 30 minutes of Endgame subverts audience expectations
the dude was just makin potatoes
Try the first 12 minutes
My boy Thanos just wanted to make some soup #justiceforthanos
Yes, that really threw me for a loop!
I used the expectations to subvert the expectations
Can we all just agree Thanos is an amazing villain?
Yes, yes we can
Why not doulbe everything. 😭
Even with all the memes surrounding him, he is still one of the best movie villains of the decade.
One of the best
I agree
Didn't even mention how Thor was set up on his hero's journey that would end with him defeating the villain. While Thanos was seemingly on his villain's mission, but it was ultimately HIS hero's journey. He was the main character. It was his story. And that's why him winning in the end was subversive. I went in thinking "okay, it's a two parter, Thanos will get like 3-4 stones and we'll see the Avengers take a final stand in part 2 to keep him from getting them all"
My fucking face when he had 4 like halfway through the movie. He really did it. Civil war is the reason why, because the avengers were torn apart, but I liked what you said about how they were unwilling to make the sacrifices as well. But I think that makes it more subversive because the ending of Civil War made it seem like "yea we fought but we'll be pals soon"
And then it really took until an hour or so into Endgame for them to be on a friendly level with each other again (Cap and Tony that is). Crazy stuff. Excellent story telling.
If Disney let all the people working at marvel do a Star Wars movie it’d be easily the one of the best in the saga.
We want Rian's Trilogy
Would it? Marvel is in charge of SW comics and they’ve been stealing art from fans.
@@judasbooth5455 who?
@@joaopiza9478 Rian Johnson
it probaly would be good but Marvel has a format that only really works well with superheroes and Marvel. Don't get me wrong im a huge fan of Marvel but they arent the people to do Star Wars movies. BUT if a Marvel director and Star Wars director work together it could work very well i mean everyones seen Mando right! That was made by the director of The Clone Wars and the director of Iron Man
You forgot the great "Subvert expectations" of all time:
Leia surviving a explosion and flying in space like superman
lol
That was the one thing in the movie that made me question the movie’s logic. Like “wha-? How tf does that work? Is she just now deus ex machina learning the force (that thing that teenage Luke was almost too old for and took at LEAST a couple weeks)? Did she know it the whole time? How?”
@@smileyface81mc77 Since I read Expanded Universe stuff back in the day I always assumed Leia had become a Jedi in the interim. It would be weird for Luke to NOT train his sister who jumps into dangerous situations with a higher frequency that Lois Freakin Lane to develop and use her natural Force Powers.
That said, Leia was spamming Force telepathy as far back as Empire so....
@@smileyface81mc77 the "one" thing? How about: "WWII Space Bombers"? Hyperspacing through enemy ships? (if that worked why was that never done before or why didn't they do that instead letting ships run out of fuel and die with no meaning?) Sub-Light Fuel Running Out? (that's never been a thing either) The Longest (most boring) space chase in history? (What happened to hyper drives and just bring in more ships on the other side of the Rebel? What happened to the hundreds of fighters?) Luke being a bitch the entire movie and 180 of his character arc? I could go on and on about that shit fest of a movie....
beyerch You should know, that I am *amazing* at suspending my disbelief.
Mom: Don't worry, you're not gonna to disappear
Little Daughter:
Mom: **dissapears**
Mr Amarello oh god oh fuck
*OOF*
damn that's subversive
this is no place to die
Top10plottwists
So all in all:
Disney makes amazing movies, but Disney movies suck
well yes, but actually yes
Well no, but actually no
Well yes, but actually no
well no, but actually yes
Yes'nt
The hyper space ramming thing doesn't make sense in the star wars universe. Because hyperspace isn't just going really fast. It basically a worm hole to go to another side of the universe. And if it was so effective in killing things why didn't people fight like this before? It just makes no sense.
While yes, there's a lot of lore about having to avoid objects when going into hyperspace, like stars or you'd get burned up, and interdictor ships can use gravitational fields to pull ships out of hyperspace due to safety mechanisms built into them. Would it have worked? Arguable at best. But it's at least plausible, that plus ships ships shields are only shown to work on objects traveling slower than lightspeed in tfa.
@@mychajlomiller3688 not really I countered most of that in my first comment. Like if it would've worked why don't we see anyone do it before?
@@PickleBeanBoss well I'm not saying it would have, but they did play it off as a desperate last move that probably wouldn't work. 1/1000000 I think is what was said in the movie. Those ain't great odds, and you could probably destroy the ship even if it didn't work, that'd be my argument for why it's not used before, and honestly, I'd guess it only worked because of the sheer size of snokes ship and also the fact that Holdos wasn't a small ship either. I think that they just got lucky.
@@mychajlomiller3688 yeah but lucky isn't the same as impossible. She wouldn't have been able to go through. I don't think it would be plausible in that universe
That 1/1.000.000 chance was a retcon
There's also Infinity War's setup for the typical "good guys win at the last second" with Thor and Stormbreaker... Only to subvert THAT too
Nah, I think anybody who know that Infinity War is a two part film know that the heroes would fail at the end.
@@wangwang9680 but it is not a 2 part film, the next one is not called infinty war part 2, it actually still has no name.
@@mifphilip Well, the movie was literally announced with the name "Avengers: Infinity War - Part 2". And although that is a placeholder name, everybody knew it will be Part 2, no matter its name.
TheGuyYouLoveToHate True, however many also believed that Infinity War would be a stalemate or just the first part of the battle with a few casualties. People predicted Spiderman, Loki, and Vision dying, but no one saw half the universe dying. No one predicted that.
Spencer Riggins But everybody gonna to return in Avengers 4... (at least main heroes and the other half of the universe)
And everyone can predict that...
The only stake we gonna have about this futur movie (and in mostly 10 years of this tv show in big screen) is to know if Steve or Tony gonna die
Infinity war: *subverts expectation wonderfully*
Endgame: BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE
@Pybro **cough** **cough** Black Widow
@Pybro True but it's still quite unexpected considering all the characters that could've died
AND IM NOT DONE YET
Endgame is trash and undid all the cool stuff IW had achieved
Neither subverted anything.
Both were pretty by the numbers.
Infinity War is better than Endgame. I don’t care. It’s more shocking, unexpected and more emotional than Endgame
EDIT - I watched Endgame again and I regret this. I'm on the fence now and realise how much more emotional Endgame was, especially with Tony's death. But I'm not taking this comment back.
I don’t agree about the emotional part
Fully agree.
I agree but the Hype Moments in endgame are better, i Just need to mention the Portal Scene and i think you understand what i mean with Hype Moments.
But Overall Infinity war is better to 100% agreed.
The first hour of endgame would like a word with you on emotion.
Yeah no you were more right before the edit, infinity war was an absolute masterpiece and endgame was thoroughly boring, disappointing, and long
12:45 “could antman possibly help”
No one gonna talk about that solid prediction
the “Hello There” quote actually originally comes from A New Hope. The Revenge of the Sith version was meant to be a callback.
Lethal Edits
holy shit. you're right.
And that general grivious said hello there first
Chronologicly it‘s not and I remember saying it first in ROTS.
@@obi-wankenobi8393 so you don't remember trying to steal the hyperdrive in 2008 clone wars?
GamerJosh thats a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. I can’t remember everything.
So, I wish the writers of Game of Thrones had watched this video....
Fucking same here
They probably did. They just didn't care enough to apply it
@@Author_SoftwareDesigner Hell yeah! They making the next Star Wars!! D&D making the next Star Wars... let that sink...
yikes
@@j.westbestoftherest9102 Let it sink? You mean like what the Star Wars franchise is doing?
“and Strange won’t let Tony die”
Another great subverted expectation
“Can Antman help with that?”
Boy if only he knew
SW7: Snoke is the new evil ultimate sith...
SW8: Snoke dies.
SW9: Cyborg Snoke VS Future Trunks
SW9: THE SHEEVSTER IS BACK BAYBEE!
Close instead Emperor is back to life
@@loreaver3882 I already made that exact comment but better, dummy
SW7: Highly experienced Elite First Order Stormtrooper who was hyped up before the films release gets defeated without a fight, sells out to her allies, and gets put in a trash compactor.
SW8: Master of the Dark Side (who had witnessed the fall of the Republic from the shadows, with Sidious not knowing anything about him until right before dying at Endor) who was hyped up before the films release dies without a fight, in a way that other characters such as Darth Maul survived.
SW9: The original master of the Dark Side (who, thanks to continuity errors, created the previous character, fought Yoda to a stalemate (and, if the novel is to be believed, would've inevitably won if Yoda kept on fighting) and had the power of all the Sith) who was hyped up before the films release accidentally kills himself without a fight.
Notice a pattern?
SW58: Jotaro vs Snokio
Theres a very important lesson to be learned here, like when you subvert expectations to tell a good story you get a good movie. But when you subvert expectations for the sake of subverting expectations, you don't.
You kind of look like Thanos
I think Rian Johnson was simply lazy and didn't bother to educate himself on any backstore of the SW Universe and acted like it was all a blank slate. Didn't even try and coordinate with the previous movie.... Such a joke.
@NADS IQ Money != Quality
@NADS IQ Again, no.
*Hollywood* - The Last Jedi won 0 major awards.... (though it did win AARP's Best Film in the "Movies for Grownups" Category)
*Wall Street* - Wall Street cares more about profits than sales. They also care about trends which indicate where the *brand* will go in the future. The brand is more than just movies and a lot more money is typically gained in those channels. (e.g. merchandise)
Movie Sales
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In this case - The Force Awakens had a $2B in worldwide box office Revenue w/ a movie cost of ~$260M (excludes marketing, etc., etc.) Gross Profit = $1.74B / ~760% return.
The Last Jedi - $1.3B / ~$262M = $1.038B / ~400% return
While it still made money, there is a significant drop between the performance of the prior movie and this one. This is *NOT* something Wall Street would like.
Even worse is when you look at the numbers (so far) for Rise of Skywalker:
$724M worldwide & production cost of $275M ...
While it is still in theaters and could possibly catch up with TLJ, this is *not* something that Wall Street would like....
One very interesting data point, is the domestic (US) box office.
TFA - $936M
TLJ - $620M
TFA* -$361M
In fairness, the Original Trilogy also showed decline between the three movies, even though all are thought of as "good" movies; however, Wall Street wouldn't have approved of their performance either. (though the weakest original movie had a 14X profit)
Other (Merch)
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While harder to quantify with exact numbers, the Disney Annual Report does have "nuggets" speaking to SW Merch:
TFA - Strong sales
Rogue One - Less sales than TFA
TLJ - Significantly less than Rogue One
Again, not something Wall Street would be jumping up and down about.
@let us prey money gains do not equal quality. Just because a great movie was not well known does not mean it's bad
"Rey's Parents aren't special, they're nobody."
Man, they really retconned that hard in Rise of Skywalker
Guys are you realizing that:
Infinity War was good
The last Jedi was bad
Take these two together and you get, a perfectly balanced movie.
Obi-Wan Kenobi why am i the only reply here
lol
Thanos (The New Sith Lord) - Perfectly balanced as all things should be.
But both of them lack the appropriate levels of High Ground so they would still suck
Hello therev
12:43
“How is Thanos gonna fight with his busted up gauntlet?”
spoiler alert:
*he won’t*
Well he can still fight he is inevitable
And I loved that. That guy just had reached everything he wanted to and did what he said he would do: retire :)
And that's subverting expectation done well
Thanos: I won its over
Thor: Haha axe go chop
He is stronger without the gauntlet
12:00 i still love how Thanos reacts to that attack.
"Ah! Oh wait it's just butterflies..."
Oh mygod I didnt notice that thats lowkey hilarious.
You’ve watched the Cinema Wins video for Infinity War haven’t you? If not, cool I thought that too!
Levi Warner cinemawins is the only version I’ll watch anymore lol
@@pokaay3163 Allow me to introduce you to Th3Birdman.
@@real_abender honest trailers are cool too
The light speed scene in the last jedi was incredible illogical according to the other 2 trilogies. Light speed is going through a worm hole that means when you come out of it, it would've been the same as going lightspeed. Thus is also why whenever you see a ship come out of light speed, it immediately stops or is going much slower because they're not breaking to slow down, they're coming out of a different dimension. Pretty much the light speed scene in the last jedi is complete trash.
When I first saw Infinity War I had no idea it was meant to be a two parter. So when the ending came and everyone was dying my reaction was something along the lines of “wait, that’s it? That’s how it ends!?” It was at that point that I found out it was a two part movie.
"What planet are you on?" is actually a logical question to ask in Star Wars. "Hey Mom, can you come pick me up?" "Sure, what planet are you on?"
"I'm on, you know that desert one", "Which desert one?"
Victor Shockley the one with sand
Double A Remember, the one that’s hot?
@@spark1400 Anakin: *Screams with utmost terror*
@@yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035 Can you at least tell me what part of the Galaxy you’re in?
You don’t know who wins half the time.
Perfectly balanced as all things should be
8: great execution, god awful plot.
Prequels: poor execution, amazing plot.
8 also somehow has bad execution, great ideas with its ideas of failure and hope. Also, ROTS was executed really well, 75% of the time.
I was gonna say that!
From my point of view the Prequels had decent execution
The execution of last Jedi was horrible
@@QM21 it was visually stunning and set up a lot of plot threads for future movies.
That was at the expense of basically soft rebooting the trilogy, which wasn’t worth it, but that doesn’t change it.
12:47 "Will Captain Marvel help with that?"
Immediately goes to her punching an old lady.
OMG I'm dying! XD
"Don't worry, you're not going to disappear."
*JESUS CHRIST*
IHJTMQ that one gave me chills. Imagine being a little child again, easily frightened by movie villains, thinking their actions are real.
UNLESS OU DONT EAT YOUR GREENS
There were kids that cried in our theatre. It's true what he said. I knew/know what was/is going to happen, but I genuinely want to know how it's going to happen.
I'm a grown man and shed a tear at the spooderman scene.
@@makudonarudokairu HE WAS JUST A DAMN KID. ALL OF THE PAIN.
I actually liked the "this is how liberty dies" quote. I thought it was very relevant to history and modern society, and one of the better lines in the film.
Anakin's speech on sand, on the other hand...
was totally justified and created a good meme
Obi-Wan: It’s over Sandakin, I have the water bucket
Well he was a Hormoned Adult and not knowing how to flirt ... so i guess he didn’t know public relations
I don't like sand... It's coarse and rough and irritating
And it gets everywhere
Boxghost102 welcome to 2020.
Oh how wrong his prediction for the next Star Wars movie was
Best part is that he also doesn’t dislike all of them. He respects Starlord for going through with the promise and praises Tony for his honored fight.
That last shot of Steve saying "Oh god" is such a gut punch and it kind of mirrors that shot of avengers one where They're all standing around Tony after Hulk catches him. But instead of victory, they have been utterly defeated.
Lauren Carroll he is sad because he is a skrull and he knows half the skrulls are dead
Steve saying it was so powerful, because it's the moment he realised what had really happened. They didn't just lose a battle, they lost everything and countless innocents are dead. Billions of them from every inhabited planet. Numbers that we don't even have words for.
I'll be honest, I was too busy watching Banner in the not-hulkbuster to notice, lol
And because Steve is usually the most optimistic character there
Even more devastating because Cap's the guy who's never supposed to give up.
If Ryan Johnson directed Infinity War....... Thanos dies midway thru the movie, the infinity stones do nothing when collected, cap americas a hermit who tried to kill hawkeye, black widow becomes the leader of the team and goes after new evil/good hawkeye.... black panther quits fighting evil and fights only for animal rights and liberties. the main avengers die to hawkeye and are replaced with the teen titans ... are your expectations not subverted?
not a bad analogy
Do one If marvel wrote the last Jedi
@@_Bakers_dozen_-ee8yf I agree
I think I see why Rian Johnson did what he did then. I would see this movie for no other reason than I wouldn't believe it existed otherwise.
If Marvel wrote The Last Jedi.....Snokes identity is revealed to be an outcast of the old Jedi order who’s been watching the story unfold from afar. After the fall of the empire the people were left lawless without leadership. As one of the last two force users, Snoke felt obligated to come out of exile and restore order. His justified fear was Luke restoring the Jedi order of old and history repeating itself…Snoke feels great power in young Kylo and thru the force he shows the flaws of the Jedi, how they were easily corrupted by the senate , overtaken by the empire, exiled for love. Young Kylo, feels neglected by Luke and appreciated by Snoke and joins him.
Luke has been on the island training in the ways of the force with the aid of old ghost jedi masters Yoda and Obi Wan. His force abilities are well beyond the powers expected of the jedi..But yet he feels he is outmatched by Snoke… He warmly embraces the lightsaber Rey gives him and tells her He’s Been waiting for her... He takes Rey as his apprentice for the final battle to come… Rey is fascinated by Luke, his incredible power but more from his wisdom.
Kylo and Rey connect using the force and spend time together by their own powers in secret. They feel their strongest when they are together and share a mysterious magnet like connection.
The two inevitably fall in love and the outcome of the pairing is a phenomenon the universe has never felt before. The combination of Dark and Light, Sith and Jedi, Hate and Love sends shockwaves through the galaxy. Snoke and Luke both feel chills from this great disturbance in the force….. To be Continued…
Schaffrillas: it’s obvious that this is how rise of skywalker is going to end-
Me: amazing every word of what you just said was wrong
And the last movie was still horrible.
Yeah, instead of doing what schaff did where it at least would be cohesive, they did a fucking fanfic
The story about the mother assuring her daughter she wouldn’t disappear genuinely moved me to tears
when i left the theater ugly sobbing, an adult near me was crying just as hard. THAT is how you make a heartbreaking ending. universal sadness.
first time I saw IW I was in such a state of shock, that I didn't know what to say to my friends for at least ten minutes. a week(?) later I went, this time alone, to watch it "emotionlessly", since I already knew what was going to happen... cried the entire effing movie.
When I saw IW on theater, I heard a child crying his eyes out during the credits. That was great.
Endgame broke me.
@@DrZuluGaming did you just say that you liked a kid crying
The family in front of us was sobbing during the Spiderman scene (you all know which one I'm talking about). I had not seen a single spiderman movie up to that point so I didnt feel the impact as much. But now that I have... dang that would have hit HARD.
'This is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause' is an amazing quote. There aren't any amazing quotes in TLJ.
TheTrekkieGamer129 it was meh.
@@sebastienmccarthy1483 ngl I'm kind of sick of people bashing the prequels, but I thought that quote was VERY suiting of the situation
Rybread103 That’s fine. I thought it was a bit on the nose. I don’t like the prequels all that much and I gave them a chance recently. Revenge of the Sith was definitely the best of the three. I feel like with a proper screenwriter, it could’ve been amazing. The execution just left a bad taste in my mouth
@@sebastienmccarthy1483 Oh trust me, I know the Prequels overall weren't as good as the OT, but still, they're not THAT bad tbh, also, there are certain elements that people called plot holes created by the prequels when in reality if you delve a little bit further, there's not that many plot holes at all
At least we have 'Hello there.'
the mother telling her daughter not to worry SENT ME I LAUGHED SO HARD
Another great thing about Thanos that I really love: He goes straight for the snap. Literally any other villain would deliver a monologue, giving the heroes ample kick his ass time, but he only waits because Thor threw a goddamn magical axe at him
It seems like they had Thanos ditch the helmet early so it would be easier for the audience to read his expressions.
I figured it was to make it seem like getting the rest of the stones would be an easy task for him, and he no longer felt he needed armor
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you could still tell tbh. the first half of the intro he was emoting, all intimidating and shit.
though the whole "he's the most powerful being in the universe now so he doesnt NEED armor" schtick still kinda makes sense
I think they also got rid of his armor because that way he is more relatable.
I mean, with the armor he looks very intimidating and shit, it would be kind of hard to see him as a "real person" and he would look more like a "villain"
Also it shows he thinks this will be Easy.
He had most likely thought that his massive battles (power stone on Xandar and the space stone with the Asguardians) were done, as he assumed his children would be able to get the rest
Once infinity war came out, Last Jedi didn't feel too good.
Once the Last Jedi came out it didn't feel so good.
they were both shit
some guy No
Either way, Disney wins
I can’t tell if he’s being sarcastic about the light speed ram being good
“Back in the 90s, I was in a very famous tv show”
And now we have Endgame leaving every person, who possesses just ounce of humanity, as an emotional wreck.
Tobito TV I was crying afterwards, I was crying with happiness during the final battle
Eh. While Endgame was very good, I definitely think Infinity War is the better movie.
I love u all 3000!!!❤
@@jeffmorris5802 The battle for Wakanda was meh, but the ending and the battle where thanos trew a moon were amazing.
They're both great movies, a good ending of a great series.
I think Endgame was fantastic as a story -- I mean what a way to end what was essentially the first 'phase' of the MCU, and the callbacks to previous movies were fantastic -- but as a movie, Infinity War was better. Endgame basically ignored a lot of character development (mostly Steve's) and there were some rather problematic aspects, like the pandering Girl Power scene or Thor's depression being used as a joke. Plus, plot holes. They seriously had no clue how their time travel worked. Endgame could have been a lot better than it was in terms of the way it dealt with its characters, but it was still really good. Both of them had incredible fight scenes though, I literally got chills.
So yea, this was basically a long-winded way of saying I pretty much agree with you. Sorry for the long paragraph, Marvel is probably my favourite franchise and I have a lot of feelings about it :P
Orchestral version of “Take On Me” distracted me & I missed the middle part of what you said
A pretty sad cover, but very fitting for this video.
I liked the track
Take me on
I had to do a double-take when it started. It made me lose my shit
Nah its The ending song of bojack horseman
IM NOT JOKING
9:24 💀 you are a master editor i swear to god
At 12:24 Schaffrilas tells us how the story “has to go.” The fact that he’s doing this as not much more than a sarcastic way to point out that there’s no exciting plot threads left in Star Wars and still somehow makes a better story than the actual episode nine film genuinely is one of the saddest things I’ve seen.
"Don't worry, you won't disappear."
Why did that scare me so much?
11:59 "You just gave the fans a satisfying movie that tells a shockingly coherent story, delivers comedy at the right moments without messing with the overall dire tone, and ends in a way that leaves the audience floored and wanting more. [Infinity War] is everything The Last Jedi *didn't have the balls to be.* "
From a die hard Star Wars fan, and someone who is NOT a Marvel fan, *1000% Agreed.*
Yep. I know this sounds a bit stupid, but I've chosen to simply immortalize (as a prequel LOVER, sorry, I know, but I do) the prequels and originals as true Star Wars. As soon as Lucas was removed, it wan't real for me.
I was born in 2002. The originals will always be the best in my opinion, Return of The Jedi has always been my favourite since I was a small child. Prequels were needed to build up that story and honestly I don’t get why so many people hate them. Revenge of The Sixth has the best fight scene out of all of the Star Wars movies and it brilliantly portrays the divide between light and dark. But these new Star Wars movies are complete trash. I came out of Last Jedi and thought “well I’m never watching that again” - I don’t care what anyone says. I’m a big Star Wars fan but you would be lying if you said it was a perfect film. Rogue One is my favourite out of the new Star Wars movies as it fits perfectly between 3 and 4. Solo wasn’t bad. That’s my rant over, bye.
Katherine E. Marvel is great and you should give them a shot!
The Prequels, the OT and the Expanded Universe are where Star Wars lives on.
It would've been cool if Rey and Kylo both sort of put an end to the Jedi and Sith (let's face it, both factions are fucking ticking time bombs) but remained enemies, bringing an end to a previous age while bringing about a new one. But no, we gotta keep the cycle going.
I love Finn, he's my favourite character in the new series and I'm pissed that they didn't kill him off. Him sacrificing himself would've been a great way to end his arc. He was a coward but then he proves his bravery by sacrificing himself to save the Rebels.
How ironic is it that Schaff actually talks about The Last Jedi more than Infinity War, when he said he’d do the opposite.
It's sad that we consider a humanized main villain to be subversive in this day and age. It should be the norm. No one in the universe thinks they are evil. Everyone who does evil things thinks they are doing the right thing at the time. Weather they are wrong or not is where the conflict should lie.
The level of humanisation of an antagonist depends on what kind of story you're telling.
I disagree. An antagonist you can relate to makes the antagonist grounded and realistic, and will always result in a better story.
Well I’d argue that’s not always true. Some killers know what they did was wrong but did it despite that because it served their own interests and desires. I’m not saying most villains shouldn’t have more depth but some people are simply bad people.
+Eric Adkins Sorry for jumping in on this discussion but I'm kind of curious what you would classify as "insane". I mean, do you mean full-blown psychosis or just anything that deviates from "normal human behaviour" down to things like compulsive lying? For example, forget murder for the moment. Crimes like rape or torture - in other words, crimes that are committed for no reason and serve no benefit to anyone except for the pain of the victim and brief power for the perpetrator - would you say people have to be insane to commit these sorts of crimes or do you think they see some benefit in it beyond just inflicting pain on someone else?
For my money, I've long held the belief that the "villain with explainable motives" IS the norm to the point where it's actually starting to become a shackle rather than a tool. Nowadays, it seems every villain has to seem sympathetic to a degree, every villain has to have a sad backstory or a backstory which shows he has reasons to "blame" the heroes, or deep-rooted family issues or something to "explain away the bad". I have nothing against complex villains at all, but I don't think the "people are never just evil" mindset is strictly true. Whether we like it or not, there are people out there who revel in causing pain for its own sake and the truth is you don't even have to look very far to find them. One of the examples I often give in these discussions is Iago in Othello who offers no less than five separate motivations to the audience for his actions, each more nonsensical than the last and straight-up refuses to provide a definitive answer when confronted at the end of the play. He is the definition of a "motiveless" villain and is often hailed as one of the greatest villains in western literature as well as one of the most interesting, in no small part because of the mystery of exactly why he did what he did. Villains with explicable (and occasionally understandable) motives have their place, yes, just as tragic villains, fallen heroes, and straight-up Freudian messes do, but above anything else the type of villain needs to work with the scope of the story being told. A personal conflict between hero and villain needs a personal connection, whereas I'd be perfectly fine not knowing exactly why someone wants to destroy 50% of all life in the universe because at that point, on that scale, it becomes unnecessary. One can easily come up with hundreds of motivations on one's own if they want to but it's not a question that desperately needs a solid answer.
Whoa, that got long. Sorry about that...
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I would say that these people who enjoy causing harm for harm's sake are insane. Sadists are often irrational, and many suffer from psychosis or schizophrenia. I'm not saying excuse them. And I'm pretty sure they have rational reasons for doing what they do. They aren't bad in thier eyes. That's the only argument I'm making. That villains should never see themselves as the bad guy, and should have clear goals and motivations, to keep it realistic and relatable. That results in a better story 100% of the time. Iago was written by a master storyteller, and he could write lazily and still shit gold. If Iago had clear motivations and was relatable, I'm sure the story would be better. But he didn't have to for the Bard to make him a good character.
I see where you're coming from, but weather they see it as a "necessary evil, actually think they're helping someone, or are just insane, people never see themselves as the bad guy.
Thanos was a villain where I actually was a bit sad when he died.
Because he's interesting and has a great backstory.
thought I was the only one... he deserved to win just as muchu as the Avengers & co did, making both Endgame and IW soooo fucking good.
I was actually kinda hapyy seeign him not fade awawy, but then it happened.... I also loved the way he wasn't screaming around or so when he lost, he accepted his fait and watched with sadness, sitting down, knowing he'll dust away and that was it....
It's so well done, I can't belive it
I agree to an extent, except that I felt he got watered down by the end.
I felt sad when Thanos died at the beginning of Endgame, but when he died again at the end, I didn’t feel bad, because he had become a much more generic “I will destroy the world and reshape it in my image” sort of villain.
@@mr.cup6yearsago211 My feelings exactly.
Mr. Cup I don’t know, that expression that Thanos gave when his ship was destroyed at the end made me feel some sympathy
"dont worry, youre not gonna disappear" i managed to wheeze the three times i rewatched that xD
The difference is...Infinity War subverted our expectations by paying off established plot points but also building up new intrigue to keep us excited for the next film.
The Last Jedi doesn't pay off anything, instead shutting down everything that was set up and therefore leaving us with absolutely no intrigue for the last film.
Also for some reason even though the last Jedi and infinity war have the same runtime, I felt as if the last Jedi was twice as long
It seems longer because all that thing with Finn and Rose leaving the group was totally unnecessary for the plot .. and it lasted so long. In Infinity war every single group that separates has the real reason to do so.. even if they fail.
Bullshit slows down time. And the Last Jedi is overflowing.
@Zev Benjamin I'm pretty sure that law is not the case here. If it would be, time would flow backwards as you watch TLJ.
I feel it's because Infinity War had incredible pacing and each scene was good. It rarely has downtime. On my first viewing of Infinity War, I never felt bored with the scenes; it just kept delivering more and more. Honestly, when it ended it felt like very little time had passed, even when watching through the credits.
I realised TLJ was a failure when it made me do something no other star wars film has ever done. Check my watch to see how long was left.
"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause" is one of my top 5 lines in all of cinema
What are the other 4?
@@rutessian The rest are all Gandalf quotes lol
@@tonyt3638 I can tell you are a man of culture.
@@tonyt3638 as it should be. Gandalf is the best!
I actually quite like that line as well.
Infinity War legitimately had me on the edge of my seat the entire time
This review surpassed a point were it went it went from just a review to being a piece of art, this video astonishes me.
Last Jedi plot twist
Snoke: You should’ve gone for the head
i love this
Snoke's death was just stupid he's made out to be all powerful and he can't see that stupid trick coming?
Wouldn't be the first time someone survived being cut in half. He didn't even fall into a bottomless chasm.
TheMrStoo oh my gosh, you’re right! The Solo movie showed that Maul survived and he’s (presumably) not as strong with the Force as Snoke is! That could mean the Snoke could actually make a comeback!
@@rmcgowa1987 He could be an Emporer's voice...but will Disney/Lucasfilm go that route...starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Emperor%27s_Voice_(Sith_Empire).
Infinity War was great. You know why? Because when Tony was stabbed, the whole theater gasped. When Gamora died, the whole theater fell silent. When Peter (spidey) cried, so did the theater. When Thanos snapped, another collective gasp. We all knew it was coming, but it still caught us by surprise. A great movie resonates with its audience. When I saw The Last Jedi, the only scene that made any impact was the lightspeed scene and it only caused everyone to be silent. Not much of a reaction.
But, imso, the impact of Infinity War is kinda being hampered, a lot, because of the damn sequels MCU will be putting out in the next few years.
@@kingartemiz2xxx786 I have to agree with you there. It kinda takes away from the sadness of the deaths.
The only downside of Infinity War is the final battle. It didn't need to be that long as we all knew Thanos would rewind time. Makes that battle feel bloated and over the top useless.
However the rest of the movie is pretty good. Gamora's death made me want to cry...that was the most brutal death in the entire film.
The lightspeed scene ruined Star Wars though, why not fly a ship into the death star 🤠
@@mish375 Gamora's death was so surprising to me and I honestly don't really know why, because I halfway expected it? In a way? I don't know how to explain it, but it was so heart-wrenching!
Disney didn’t even know what they were gonna do with the Star Wars movies when they were doing the force awakens. Trash Disney
I love that Infinity War is a movie about a noble knight fighting for his vsion of a perfect world.
Thanos is not only the hero in his own mind, he is the protagonist of this movie.
We could all guess the ending by going into the movie, yet still i was so surprised by it, and that the Russos just made this huge leap of faith in terms of "risky" storytelling (which i wish all the big companys would), that i said "Holy Shit... he did it. We lost." out loud to my cat, while crying my eyes out.
Even now, if i watch Infinity War and Endgame end-to-end, i cry like a baby.
From the satisfying depression IW creates to the just epic and heartfelt solution that EG offered. (And the aftermath in Homecoming)
From "We lost" to "We won...?", and i want to stress this little word "we". Aside from LotR and HP there are no franchises that ever made me feel like "we" did anything.
(Sorry, i like the original Star Wars trilogy, but that was an fantastic space opera and never really got me that enthralled)
This franchise had so much Humanity in it. Even if they are Superhuman and the villains only got good with Ego - Kurt Russel... what a performance. Comparing him in "Soldier" where he is adequate to his outstanding performance as Ego is impossible.
And Thanos, oh god. Thanos could easily have been a Frollo. But he is a Masterpiece of a villain.
Oh boi, what a ride it has been.
Sincerely i hope that marvel learned it lessons with Guardians and the amazing Ragnarok, letting a great directors explore their take on great storys.
Sorry for the long comment :D
How do you mean, he could've been a Frollo?
@@AB-dm1wz kinda one dimensional
Jesus Christ... Palpatine's "Do it" edited in when Quill was about to kill Gamora got a hearty, hearty chuckle from me. Genuinely snort laughed. New sub, great video mate.
Define kill
I did not connect with Gamora and Thano''s relationship... it just felt forced.
every time I hear that "do it" line, I just think of when the Game grumps we're joking about it like crazy
it was a great point he made there. i never thought quill would pull the trigger. you could see the expression of pure agony on his face when he did too. in this moment he wasnt much different from thanos, who ended up sacrificing a loved one for what he perceived as the greater good. the same reason why thanos said he likes quill, after he pulled the trigger.
@@Stone7C1 Watching Infinity War, you really get the sense that Thanos actually respects the Avengers ("I hope they remember you, Stark") and some of the Guardians too. This is something that was missing from most Marvel villains, even the better ones like Killmonger or Hela. The only other Marvel villain who seemed to respect his/her adversary was Vulture.
I let out an “oh come on” when Finn was saved by Rose
PRETZEL DAY I think I did too
And now people are trying to cut in line
I think you mean he was "foiled" by Rose. :D
@@shorewall Foiled? Why the hell do people want Finn to die so bad?
On top of this, it would have physically been impossible for Rose to catch up with Finn. Even she could catch up, it would have been even impossible for her to slam into Finn at the 90 degree angle that it was.
This video holds up.
Don't retcon your TLJ options too much over time 🙏🏻🙏🏻
People's opinions can change over time, his thoughts on the last jedi certainly have.
I really like the last jedi, flaws and all
@@njh123 great 👌🏻
1. The villian's name from mr doctor strange is kaecilius (yes i looked up how to spell it)
2. You need to watch dr strange again especially the scene when he and kaecilius talk about why kaecilius wants to summon dormammu, he litterally cries while talking about humans being slaves to time and how they how they are going to die (as his family did). Also he shows anger, sadness and disgust and so much more emotions when he talks about the ancient one betrayal by using the dark dimention energy while telling her pupils not to. Kaecilius is not just one generic marvel villian, he shows more emotions in one scene then most of dc heros in their own movie
Yay,someone else who recognizes good parts of Dr Strange.
"Can Ant-Man help with that?"
He sure can, buddy.
"Can Captain Marvel help with that?"
She sure can't, buddy.
lol
pretty bullshit how she was built up to be a big part in endgame and she was barely a part of it lol
She ex-machinas a ship from killing everyone then gets punched out of the movie
I think she was a rather important part of Endgame. Without her and Thanos fight Tony would have never thought about taking out the infinity stones.
I think people are too mean to Captain Marvel and I don't see why she gets all the hate.
Yeet the beat out you apparently have no idea what deus ex machina means.
I completly agree with the subversion of epectations in infinity war
in the theater when people started cornflaking at the end of the movie a kid next to me said "I hope spiderman doesn't die" to which I thought "Naw spiderman made to much money he ain't gonna die"
Then "Mr Stark, I don't feel so good"
Infinity War didn’t “subvert” shit. Everything that people predicted happened, dumbass.
@@Dragonage2ftw Damn, I can smell the salt of your comment over here in germany xD
@@Dragonage2ftw Subversion is about straying from the orthodox plots, not about predictability. The archetypal hero story is one in which the hero first fails, then goes through some transformation (usually through sacrifice of some sort, or dedication to training) and then is able to win. It tells us that through sacrifice and dedication we can become better versions of ourselves. You see this is just about every single story with a hero theme, be it modern films or ancient myths. Infinity War subverted this by having the antagonist go through this instead of the hero. It is subversion, whether you could predict it or not isn't relevant.
I thought that too and then I was hugging my 12-year-old as Peter dusted away, and I was like, "No! Not the baby!" My kid was, "Oh my god mom, really?"
@@Dragonage2ftw yeah, iron man and captain America died in infinity war, didn't they?
Omg the “rewrite the stars” part fit in so well. What the heck?
Rose: Hey I saved your life!
Finn: You didn’t save my life you ruined my death!
child-gamorra: did you do it?
thanos: yes
child-gamorra: what did it cost?
thanos: everything
pretty much sums up why thanos is a good villain, he is aware of what his victory has cost him but still felt that he had to do it
Personally I think this moment should be scripted just a bit differently to add more weight to it. Should have been...
Child-Gamorra: Did you do it?
Thanos: Yes
Child-Gamorra: Was it worth it?
Thanos: (Thanos is unable to look her in the eyes as sadness furrows his brow)
(Sunset scene: Thanos has to collect himself emotionally, for a moment, before smiling in his contentment.)
I also think they should have had another flashback scene of Gamorra interacting with Thanos as a child and actually having a real father daughter moment. A moment where she actually called him 'dad' for once. This coupled with the scene where he throws her off: If as she was falling she screamed the name "Dad" then showing how much it wounds Thanos in that moment to be really reminded that she was truly his daughter, even in her mind.
Thanos is, in my opinion, one of the most compelling villians Ive ever watched in a movie. I just loved his character and writing so much. Most movies are about their hero. Infinity War was all about it's villian
doesn't kylo ren also aware what his victory costs which is why he kill snoke
@@nnn4376
Definitely. The fact that so many heroes were involved in Infinity War somewhat adds to that, too, as there isn't really a "central hero" or hero protagonist. If anything, one could say that Thanos was the main character, in a way.
Kill monger is similar, his motivations are totally understandable, and cause you to question the goodness of Wakanda. Marvel has been doing well with villains
Kirby: did you make a new story mode
Sakurai: yes
Kirby: what did it cost
Sakurai: everyone
Golden Magikarp5 I saw that on Another video
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I doubt I'll ever get over the footage I've seen of Rian Johnson capering with glee while he recites that verdamnt mantra of his, "subverting expectations."
Poor Snoke. Only half the character he could've been.
He was perfectly balanced, gotta admit
I wish they didn't cut his story so short. It feels half done.
Michael J. Caboose See what you did there!
You know they're gonna' bring the other half back in the next one.
Him and Maul should do a duet cover of the Nirvana song :)
Infinity Wars was perfection. Endgame just made me cry for 10 minutes and almost cut off the circulation of my friend’s arm.
Why?
@@AlanJia8 Tony died
@@AlanJia8 he loved her 3000
@@plutossky7534 But why the circulation part?
@@AlanJia8 Tony died
“Don’t worry your not going to disappear “
i've watched a lot of TLJ videos and this honestly the best. Keep coming back to watch.
Isn’t it funny how they’re both led by Disney and they’re this different in quality
The studios under the Disney umbrella work independently. Pixar and Marvel are definitely superior to Lucasfilm, and none of them have anything to do with the other.
It’s down to the Russo boys
Isn't it funny how you've been tricked over years into thinking that one of the largest organizations in USA can and does have a single consistent identity?
Otoskire actually it had more to do with Kevin Feige than anything else. He's been overlooking the Marvel films since way before the MCU started.
Passion over pay check.
The thing that subverted my expectations was the fact that Star Lord was willing to kill Gamora there has been so many movies where one love interest swears to kill the other but then doesn’t because ThEy LoVe ThEm ToO MuCh even if it’s the best thing for the the most people.
You're right, Quill pulling the trigger shocked me a ton
He took like a minute... if thanos was serious he’d kill him 10 seconds after not doing it
@@fishfish2128 Thanos doesn't bother killing individuals because he's not evil. Unless someone is hindering him from accomplishing his goal he'll deal with them (see: Gamora), otherwise it means nothing.,
@@Bantimus thank you
Fishfish212 on the contrary, Thanos gave him respect for that! Thanos was prepared to make sure Gamora doesn’t die but he wanted to show her that she can’t trust anyone, a weakling who promised her something, but then Quill pulled the trigger and he kept his promise, whatever the cost!
What a masterpiece of a youtube video! I genuinely enjoyed watching this. For me, I like the longer videos, and even though this one was only 14 minutes long, it felt like an hour-long story. I mean this in the best way possible.