Everything GREAT About Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens!
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- The Force Awakens didn't start getting badmouthed until it had broken all the records. Usually, I suggest that maybe the critics were wrong with their negativity. The. Critics. Are. Wrong. J.J. Abrams brought Star Wars back to its glory days. Here's everything right with Star Wars Ep VII The Force Awakens. In a few days my thank you to all of YOU for getting this channel to 1000 subs!
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Han solo's death in a nutshell
Fans: NOOOOO
Harrison ford: YEEEEES
My grandmother and aunt were lamenting why he 'had to die' in the movie and I was like, "Had to? He told the JJ that he wouldn't do the movie unless they killed him off. He literally told them to do it."
Ariel Hunt he’s been trying to have Solo killed off literally since Episode V if you believe him
@@Sajirah plus dude was getting old, i wouldn't want to be doing action films into my old age
George Chapman Mate he was literally earning bags just so stand there and say a few lines of dialogue
@@patrickgracias5782 doesn't mean he wanted to do it. He already has more money than he could use
CinemaWins: "I do like that Snoke isn't just a rehash of the Emperor."
Rise of Skywalker: (Laughs in Sith Lord)
Yeah I would have loved to rather see them finally overcome Snoke in Star Wars 9 rather than in 8. Also that Palpatine is back crap really sucks
pure awesomeness! 2:58
Well, he isn’t a rehash of the Emperor… he Is the Emperor
@@Risenophdude that's actually one of the plot points from Legends Palpatine clones are something that they brought back so yeah anyone who knew Legends well enough would probably have expected snoke(I sure as hell did since I already knew about the whole palpatine clone thing even though it was a subconscious thought until they revealed that yes snoke was a palpatine clone)to be a palpatine clone anyways. the only thing that was off about it was that they didn't establish palpatine having cloning facilities for himself in this trilogy they just expect people to know from Legends since it's one of the more famous plot points. I rejoiced when I learned that they were using this plot point in the movies since it's something that is clearly established and explained in the Legends books meaning that anything in regards to palpatine's cloning facilities could be used there hell we probably haven't even seen the last of the palpatine in the freaking rise of Skywalker since yeah he has cloning facilities
I'm not going to spoil The Rise of Skywalker for anyone but
The video talking about Rey's parents makes me chuckle to myself
yes ith does
Ye ***sith*** does
@@Maxawa0851 no
notMax Awa yeah that was the joke
Yeah same lmao!!
I cant believe he didn't win the "Hey! This is the ship that ran the Kessel run in 14 parsecs!" "12!"
I can't believe he didn't win the gag where Kylo was throwing a tantrum as the two stormtroopers come down the hall, see him, and promptly turn around.
These gags are good for Spaceballs.
That was so shit
One thing that's great about TFA was how the trailer thoroughly tricked us to think that Finn is the main character. The one introduced first? Finn. The one who held blue lightsaber in the trailer? Finn. The one that got most show time in the trailer? Finn.
And Seeing how trailers nowadays often spoils stuff to get viewers hype sometimes too much, their way to tricked us and still hyped us is really brilliant and I'll give extra points for that
mrbenz19 I knew he wasn't gonna be the main character
exactly
Finn wasn't exactly incompitent per se, he came up with a clever plan to flood the falcon, he certainly helped with the destruction of starkiller base, and maybye we'll see more character development later
holy hell, get out of here with that shit. He was a good character, an average guy with an average skill set andtremendous courage, makes him even better imo. You can't compare anybody to Rey, not even Luke. She's OP.
Thank the Force someone else gets how Ren was clearly toying with Finn.
Yes!
And he was shot by a fucking obwcaster! Only goes to show how great he is as a villain.
+Maximiliano Ríos Vera: This isn't really the place for negativity. If you want to complain about TFA, the CinemaSins page would probably be more appropriate.
+ Maximiliano Ríos Vera: All I'm saying is that since this is a positive page, there's really no reason to comment that other than to irritate people, so there wasn't any need to do it in the first place.
Maximiliano Ríos Vera: 🎵🎵🎵
4:28
No joke, when Han and Chewbacca first showed up on the screen, the whole audience started cheering and clapping at the theatre I was at, it was pretty special
i had the cinema sins voice in my head of "they dragged ford into this didn't they?" and tbh i felt sorry for him a bit.
r/thathappened
BZgA Did you even see TFA in theaters? The audience cheered at like everything at every showing I went to.
@@ackminecrer9165 the audience here in Germany is not so fucking crazy like in the US
Damn he really thought that she was a kenobi .
Oh boi he was wrong
yo same lol
Obi wrong
Spoiler for ROS for real! You have been warned...
“Use my knowledge, I beg you”
*Dew it*
Well he made a good point
lols
“It’s a promise that this is all thought out ahead of time. And I’m taking that promise to the bank.” Hahahhahahahahahahahaha
stop your making me sad
And he thought obi wan was Rey’s dad😂😂
Brother?!?!?
I mean, the fans really dictated that. The outstanding backlash from first this movie then even more from Last Jedi made Disney and other executives feel changes were needed. The fans did this.
@Tom Ffrench Yeah I can see what you mean. Have a wonderful day!
Anyone here after episode 9? Kinda weird to see how far everything has come and how differently the saga played out (like it or not I suppose)
And at 6:07 he asks who is Kylo speaking to it’s like he knew something was up
Just caught an amazing call-back. At around 6:24 someone (presumably obi-wan) says these are your first steps to Rey, then at the end of episode 9 when Rey asks the jedi to be with her, Obi-wan says these are your final steps. SO cool to see some things wrap up so neatly!!
yeah, although now i feel like i can enjoy TFA a little more now, even though it is kinda a copy of the story i can really appreciate how much more world building and good character introductions in this movie. While I can still enjoy TLJ, it’s just soo different from TFA. Kinda sad we didn’t get the unified overall story that has dominated the other two trilogies, despite the prequels failures that overarching story is so great
All those people who are mad about this are just frustrated that they made a fool out of themselves for readin everything but the kitchen sink into one movie without any substantial evidence LOL
Me! It was kinda funny to see his theories about Obi-Wan being Rey's father (theories which I was already familiar with, of course), but he also got a lot right about the future of the ST, what with wondering whom Kylo was talking to, saying he was "maybe more" than a villain, even Snoke being in the empire business.
All in all, I love the ST, even if it could've been more cohesive as a trilogy.
Looking forward to his full EGA TROS video, whenever he makes one!
I kinda disagree that the 'traitor!' scene should've been phasma. It being a normal stormtrooper makes it feel more special and it also breaks the 'stormtroopers are not capable at fighting' thing.
To be fair, is showing us that stormtroopers AREN'T incompetent really a bad thing?
@@naturalist4life396 Shouldn’t be. They are the elite force after all.
Think Waffen-SS. (Come to think of it, isn’t that the actual Inspiration behind them?)
@@AndorRadnai The thing is, in a new hope, they were not bad at aiming. They were specifically ordered not to hit Luke’s gang so they could track the ship to the rebel base.
@@brickabang Reinforces the point. Yes, absolutely!! They are the elite force.
I believe it was going to be originally, but they changed it. There was a lot more with Finn was cut out, and I don't know why.
What we hear during the Vision:
Vader: *breathes*
Yoda: Its energy surrounds us...
Luke: NO!!!
Yoda: ...and binds us.
Ben Kenobi: Rey...
Obi-Wan: ...these are your first steps.
ben what and obi-wan who my guy
Though I have long that Rey was a “Mary Sue” I must admit that her feats with the Millenium Falcon are nothing when compared to a child destroying an entire capital ship with a small starfighter
Or a farm boy blowing up a superweapon because he shot rats from a speeder.
Rey: A scavanger for a whole life that probably knows a lot of tech and ships. Of course knows something about the Falcon and how to pilot it.
Anakin: A 9 year old that flirts with a 14 year old know things about ships and techs destroy an entire base and murders people inside of it.
Luke: A farm boy that never piloted an X Wing blows up a super planet destroying space station.
@Guilherme Santos two things. 1. He was not a well trained Sith, he was a rusty padawan who has be peacocking all his adult life. And 2. (And this one is just me) I'm fine with showing less of Rey training. I've seen Jedi trained to death by this point and honestly just want to see new stuff at this point and not waste film time showing her train. Jedi training is like Bruce Wayne's parents dying or uncle ben getting shot....I know it's happened and I don't need to see it anymore.
That's just me though, everyone has their own opinions.
And (once again this is just me) Luke dying the way he did was perfection. He had lost his hope but force projected himself to give the rebels a chance to escape and become the legend everyone thought he was. To each their own though.
@Guilherme Santos did you miss the part of the movie where he said bring him to me, we need to finish his training? I said he was a padawan....as in being trained.
@Guilherme Santos lmao you kids taking movies about space wizards and lazer swords soooo seriously is hysterical to me. Keep it up.
I know he was shot by a damn space canon and wasn't even trying to take her out because he wanted to turn her and she basically got what was a lucky shot in because they were both surprised by her hidden inner strength....no I'm going to ignore the whole fight and set up before it because reasons!!!!!
I really like seeing a positive channel on here, it's not even day you see that on CZcams. You go, dude!
ikr!
I found the channel and I was like THANK YOU SOMEONE ACTUALLY SEES THE GOOD STUFF
CinemaWin dude also makes fun of lesser moments in the movies. Not so different after all.
I must admit that a hommage to CinemaSins EWW was a fun idea;
But I doubted that a random guy with no affiliations to the team could make such quality videos.
I discovered this channel a couple days ago and have watched about 5 vids, and the dude is pretty fun.
Curious to see what's in the future for this channel.
+Emma MacDonald yess
Thats why I subscribed to this channel because I knew whoever owns it will be pointing out the good stuff not the bad stuff, makes life so much better
"AAAAAHHHHH THE MILLENNIUM FALCON FLIES AGAIN!!!!"
Literally me in the theater
Genie Hossain all too true
Genie Hossain don't do it!
Because nostalgia and fan service is what makes a movie great?
I hope not, people yelling in excitement and clapping and stuff like that is some of the worst possible things you could ever experience in a theater.
Genie Hossain "...SORT OF"
Cinema Wins: "Very obvious hint to rey's father."(clearly thinks it's obiwan)
Me, who has seen 9: Laughs in palpatine
Watching this video now only makes him seem more ridiculous for reading so much shit into it.
*laughs in sith lord*
@Syon Kanaginhal That would have been a good explanation as to how she is already so good with the force and can survive on her own, but we have already seen flashbacks of her parents leaving her there, making this implausible.
TFA Kylo = Trying to be a villain and succeeding (kind of)
TLJ Kylo = Struggling with his new found villainy, be distracted from it (Rey) and then achieving ultimate power.
God I love Adam Driver’s performance as Kylo. He’s made him my favourite character in this new trilogy
i agree, his sincerity in his acting was the only good part of TLJ
@@GamingTeamBrohammer good yes! Only good, strongly disagree
Kylo is one of my favorite villains of all Star Wars. I hate that he's in the horrible movie of The Last Jedi.
@James Merritt Ultimate power of a crying fckboy emo looks like LMAO
Not achieving power, is trying to prove to Snoke in the beginning
I dare you....I _DARE_ you....to make "Everything Great About The Star Wars Holiday Special."
gspendlove No. Thats just imposible, DO NOT MENTIOM THE SWHS AGAIN.
gspendlove don't ask them to do the impossible
Well, if they can manage to find good out of the 'The Last Airbender' movie(even if they were grasping at straws)
HELP I CAN'T CRINGE HARD ENOUGH
Probably ends up with negative wins
No points for the meeting between Po and Fin?
"Why are you helping me?"
"It's the right thing to do."
"... you need a pilot."
"I need a pilot!"
:D
DrownedInExile "Ding"!
I'm pilot
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I'm piiiiilot
J_Dog 247 Blasphemy. Everyone knows that Obi-Wan died for our sins!
You skipped when Rey put the helmet on like a six year old fan in a cardboard x-wing! That was adorable.
"It's a promise that this is all thought out ahead of time" ... boi oh boi
Explain? I would say that they did have the characters thought out ahead of time.
He’s talking about how the director of Episode VIII (Rian Johnson) completely made up the script as he went along. He really didn’t consider what was planned ahead by JJ.
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Rjit okay, sure.
JJ Abrams LITERALLY said in an interview that nothing in TLJ ruined the plot. So people who say Rian Johnson deliberately wrecked JJ’s story is a lie, so SHUT THE FUCK UP.
(Sorry, sorry. I’m seriously sick of seeing people like that)
Why didn't you put the part were the 2 storm troopers were walking and then turned around because of Kylo ren was mad
I think that's because he covered the first time Kylo had a temper tantrum but then still.
that shit deserved a win (or two) as it had me laughing properly. and for showing just how much more human the not cloned stormtroopers were
Just another Internet user #clonesarepeopletoo
Just another Internet user but seriously, watch the clone wars. It does a good job of giving them personality.
I'm 3 seasons in and it adds so much to ep.3 and just the SW universe in general
It’s comedy that doesn’t belong in Star Wars
Actually, I CAN win the death of Han Solo. It was necessary for Kylo Ren to become a credible villain. I mean, to the characters in the film, he already is, but to the audience, he's got to measure up to DARTH VADER, and that's damn near impossible to do. In order for Kylo to be a credible villain to US, he needs to do something truly villainous TO US... and nothing could be more villainous than killing Han Solo. Think about this... We like Chewie, but we don't connect with him like we do to a human character. Killing him wouldn't mean as much to us as killing one of the human characters. Luke and Leia are both Force sensitive, so we know that killing them only makes them one with the Force; they're not "really" dead. Not so with Han Solo. He's NORMAL. Kill him, he's DEAD, gone forever. Add in that he's arguably the most likable, popular character, and the murder of Han Solo becomes the most evil thing Kylo Ren could possibly inflict on the audience. Without this, Kylo Ren remains a poser.
Therefore, this is a WIN because it makes the villain a REAL villain.
Well put! I remember the creeping dread of KNOWING what was about to happen and HOPING i was wrong as Han walked across the bridge, then the jolt of dismay and sudden urge to force B!+(# slap Kylo Ren in the instant that searing saber FFZZZSH tore through it.
I agree totally, it HAD to happen in order to turn lost child Ben Solo into monstrous villain Kylo Ren.
You know that Snoke mentioned that even him killing Han has not put him over the edge to fully join the dark side right?
STNeish plus, Harrison Ford hates star wars and did not want to be in any other movie 😂
Snoke's opinion is automatically invalid.
STNeish cv
I feel like Rey's reaction to Finn coming back for and rescuing her goes really unappreciated because of the fact that no one else has ever come back for her. So Finn coming back and even breaking into an enemy base, going to the exact place he said he wanted to run away from at all costs, was the most touching thing in the world for Rey and really sealed the deal on their friendship. At first, I thought they would be the romance of the trilogy based off that one moment and the head kiss later, but after TLJ... yeah no, Reylo till the ends of the fucking earth. And yes, I have seen TROS so don't bother trying to be cute.
Man, I NEVER saw Finn and Rey as a couple, more so Finn crushing on someone he knows probably doesn’t like him the same, so he does the honorable thing and sticks with her like a true friend.
I was a fan of Kylo Ren and Rey from the first “Force phone call”
But one small thing: it’s not Reylo
It’s Bey
@@landlighterfirestar5550 Well, of course it's Bey. Reylo is just the more easily recognized tag for the pairing. FinnRey was just a knee jerk reaction to that moment. But yeah, it was Bey/Reylo from the moment the two were forced to simply talk in TLJ.
@@landlighterfirestar5550 It's still Reylo. REY+Ben SoLO=Reylo
But yes, Reylo all the way-lo. 💕
And yes, Finn and Rey's friendship is beautiful. ❤
One thing that i love is the fact that Finn is smitten(?) by Rey after the chase scene, but probably thought about her as a friend. After all he was a Stoormtrooper, abd the First Order encourage competition, not friendship; after FN-2003 death, his squad partner along side FN-2199 or Nines (the «Traitor!» guy gunnit down by Han) and FN-2000 or Zeros (who's destiny is a mistery as far as I can tell), I'am glad that he could find people to call friends.
The problem is that people WANT to hate films. People want to find things wrong with it, even if Episode 8 is the next Empire Strikes back I guarantee you, people will dislike it.
Now, people are entitled to their opinion; it's what makes them special as individual people. I would not take that way from them on any day of my life, but you have to understand that critic is someone who looks at a film in a un-biased way and gives it a score based on the effort, technical's, and results.
Let me show you an example: Billy says " I think Kylo Ren's lightsaber should be blue, not red. This movie sucks. "
You are allowed to think this, but to say the film failed in that regard is simply incorrect. It is not fair to reduce a point based on a perspective that is horribly subjective.
Let's compare the protaganist of A New Hope to The Force Awakens for a second. Darth Vader. He was a menacing, towering figure of power. He ''murdered' Anakin Skywalker, Luke's father. That's all you know.
Kylo Ren is a emotionally distraught Knight of Ren that commands the First order. His father, Han Solo left after Ben Solo, Kylo Ren's true name, murdered all of Luke's students. He is trying to be the leader and fearsome foe that Vader was, but is struggling in the path to stability.
After murdering his father, he realizes that in his lust for power and comfort, it brought only more sadness and remorse, lessening his power in the Dark Side.
Now, I will be bold by saying this, but in my critical opinion, I think that Kylo Ren is a better villain than Darth Vader. I am not arguing if he is cooler or was better as films goes by, but since we are comparing the one thing that everyone else is comparing him to, I will do so accordingly. He simply has more depth and motivation for what he does. he's a person
How about we compare Han Solo to Old Ben? I am treading on thin Ice, I know!
But consider; the death of Han Solo has more meaning because we have had THREE films to develop him. This is not the same as Vader vs Kylo, because whereas Vader got more depth later, Han ALREADY had depth.
His death carried much more meaning than Obi-wan did in the same film. We felt more sad as the rest of the films came by for Ben, but again, we are only comparing present and past films.
The practical effects are numerous, and look amazing. And yet, the CGI in some areas actually looks more realistic then the practical ones!! excluding Snoke and Maz.
The action is a mix of the prequels and the originals: Fast, but realistic. Brutal, yet majestic. Emotional, yet the choreography is great.
The acting is just phenomenal. Daisy Riddley, John Boyega, Adam Driver, Oscar Issac, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, are simply flawless. And I mean that. Perfect.
The pacing is kept fast too. No pee-break scenes, and it is not too long and drawn out.
The cinematography is amazing. Though my only complaint being at the end, with the helicopter camera spinning around Rey and Luke. Not a fan of that shot.
The writing was smart, in that they switched up elements but kept it safe to start their new franchise. Though I view it as a squeal, many will view it as a reboot. To each their own.
I am not joking, from a critic's standpoint, this is a near flawless film. On a technical level, it's a masterpiece.
Now of course, no movie is flawless. The rathars were a little too CGI, along with Maz and Snoke. I thought that Captain Phasma would be the next Boba Fett. I was right, for the wrong reasons; she was beat up. Not dead but just.. tossed aside like a bubble gum wrapper. Also, sometimes, I felt like the fast pace was a little too much; little time was given to calm down and just chill. Call that a flaw or a plus, I think it's leaning towards a flaw more like.
These are my issues. As you can see, the pros FARRR outweigh the cons. For my own score, if I may indulge a bit, is a very happy and solid 9/10.
Frog Redstar good job you actually have a critical capability. I've realized that a vast majority do people did love this movie. Especially the general audience and critics and big youtubers. The small amount if people who hate this movie flock to the Internet to scream there reasons why this is the worst movie ever. TFA is a great movie and is a solid 9/10 but I'd give it a 9.5/10
"The problem is that people WANT to hate films."
Yes, absolutely. And I think this trend has only gotten worse in the past decade, where judgment is passed on films based on the announcement of the casting or the first stills from the set, before anyone has seen anything. I think the internet is largely to blame.
I actually don't mind the film. The issue is that it feels like it took too many elements of the Original Trilogy merely for nostalgia's sake. From a nobody in a desert planet with a mysterious family past, to the planet-destroying Dark-side base, to the basic designs of ships and clothing, it all seems to resemble the OT more than standing on its own. While this can make sure that these are the natural evolution of the OT's design and advancement, subverting from the sterile scenes and setpieces of Episodes I-III, It also feels like the design team was afraid of pushing the boundaries of 30 years of design advancement.
For example, the Order's shuttle was an oversized version of the Imperial Shuttle, albeit without the central fin. The First Order fighter was a recolored version of the TIE. The X-Wing of the Resistance has no difference other than its intakes being semicircular. Their star destroyers seem to be only modified versions of the old design. The venerable stormtrooper armor seemed to have little difference from their cloned predecessors, rather than a black line from their eye-holes to their breathing apparatuses.
In short, it seemed to be nostalgia for nostalgia's sake.
Yeah I didn't want to start a flame war, so thank you all for not getting angry at me!
Jake Everett Terpening, yeah I'm not saying in my opinion Darth Vader was not a good villain. It's just what you are looking for in a antagonist ( in my original post I called them a '' protagonist '' my bad! ).
Let me address what you said specifically, " Plot convenience ". I am going to blow yours and my mind with what I am about to say, as I am a Star wars fanboy and I usually let my brain kick in to justify just about every aspect of the film - even the prequels!
You're right!
When filmmakers are in the makings of their creation, they are not interested in making a film nitpick-proof. I've written my own stuff before, and take it from in that when you do it, you are no longer concerned about making a emotionally attached film but a fan service film.
For instance, they probably, in creation of Kylo Ren, said this " He needs to be a new kind of villain. A obsessive and insecure one, while still menacing "
If they said instead, " Kylo needs to be better villain than Vader. He needs to kick butt and make him look like a punk! " They are more worried about what the more thorough fans will have to say, rather then making him a good villain!
I could reference the book and my theories and justifications about why Kylo was defeated by Rey, but ultimately it's what you, the audience, feel emotionally connected to. I will not make you suddenly like the fight if I tell you Kylo is a Shi-cho user strictly.
UtubrGaming, well I'd say that they did this to introduce newcomers to Star wars. See, I'm sixteen, and I did not get to see the Original Trilogy for the first time. I just had the DVD's later on, and was able to watch it then.
What this film provides is a introduction for the newer generation. It's a smart move on the filmmaker's side, because imagine if they just decided to pick up where ROTJ left off with completely new elements in the first movie of their new trilogy?
People would complain about what this film has exactly: elements of the original trilogy.
It's also playing it safe. They risk less with completely new things, and with it being soo long since we got a great Star wars film, we are less likely to not enjoy it - which is exactly what some people are doing!
I encourage you to put yourself in J.J Abrams' shoes. He's a very talented director but he's also experienced, in that he will know what to expect from us.
Mark my words, in Episode eight, they'll be allowed to get away with a lot of things. And it's taking two years in development - plenty of time to polish it up for us picky fans!
"Baddest bad-ass baddy bad guy move that ever was or ever will be", then Vader took that prize back in Rogue One.
I agree. That scene at the end, where he slaughters all the rebel soldiers, is truly amazing.
Yeah, Vader's hallway scene in Rogue One, is literally one of the most terrifying, badass moments in the whole franchise. It was so good, I actually tear up every time I watch it. This is probably my favourite scene featuring Darth Vader in the whole Star Wars franchise.
So the prequels are too different and the force awakens is too similar. Anybody else feel like this fandom has become impossible to please?
NO FUCKING SHIT
em, yes
I can understand why people wouldn't like these films. But they HATE them. Freaking hell did these movies kill their pets? Why do people hate them? It's so absurd. Just shows how ridiculous many, but not all, sw fans are
well.. when the prequals came out.. they were considered some of the best movies at the time.
the cgi was revolutionary and the script was no cornier than the originals.. ( to the folks that say the script of the PT ws corny.. im sorry.. did you even WATCH the original trilogy? Luke was a dumb blond in the first movie, and a whiny brat. for 99.99% of the movie han was in it ONLY for the money.. leia was a stuck up brat that hd some of the cheeziest lines in history! Take off the fucking rose colored glasses!!)
but it rapidly became cool with the fan base to hate them because they were so unique... and for fucks sake i really have no clue why.
aidan clark Give me a movie set in the old republic 😂
While I had issues with The Last Jedi, I honestly loved The Force Awakens
Edit: Loved The Rise of Skywalker too btw
Otanak Nanarluq I still enjoyed The Last Jedi, but I also loved The Force Awakens. It was the first Star Wars movie I saw in theaters and it was on opening night which made the experience even better
It was a good MOVIE, It was a terrible Star Wars story, it was just a bigger, bolder version of Episode 4, all the originality was consumed by the black hole of unimaginative writing, and J.J. doesnt know how distance, space, and time work... (Starkiller/Hosnian scene)
Leaf White
I think it was good for Star Wars too. New villain, new force powers, 4 didn’t have a lightsaber battle at the end, Rey is different from Luke, and who the hell was Finn in the OT?
@@JohnGoetzGaming When I said all the originality was consumed in a black hole of bad writing... did you think I meant there wasnt any? There is no Finn parallel in the OT, he is original, and I like him. But all the stuff I like about the Force Awakens is swept under the rug by the things that make me beat my head against the wall. It's a good MOVIE, its uninspired garbage as far as the Saga is concerned
@@leafwhite6376 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahagagahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha
I don't think Obi-Wan is Rey's FATHER, but perhaps a GRANDFATHER.
I'M HER GRANDFATHER
I highly doubt that. Otherwise, Leia would've at least known about it as then Rey must be either her or Luke's daughter, which wouldn't make sense as Leia was clearly unaware of her existance until they met.
And no, Luke being the father won't work, as he'd at least TELL Leia that he had a daughter, but since Leia obviously knows nothing about it, Luke can't be the father.
Keva the Half-Kestora Rey is a Palpatine : ^)
THAT makes some more sense. It would explain her strength in the Force, as Palpatine was one of the most powerful Sith ever.
Keva the Half-Kestora Luke kept his life private for a reason.
After records were broken, and when some fans trashed this film, I thought I was the only Star Wars fanboy that genuinely liked this film... and not because of nostalgia.
Nah, I love this film too.
I Love the film too, your not the only one.
Jonathan Lerch I can see why. I, among many others, wasn't very fond of the prequels, but I can safely say Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan fighting Darth Maul was pretty sweet!
As an ex-fan of the franchise, I consider this my second favorite of the Saga behind Return of the Jedi... mainly because it was the most fun that Star Wars has ever been.
+Andrew Western I hate this film
No win for Traitor-trooper? Not even a joke, I think showing us his reaction to one of his squadmates betraying him is deserving of a win.
TRAITOR!!!! (Spins epicly)
"you will ALWAYS be han solo." THAT'S where you got my like.
You forgot to win the way that Phasma said "FN-2187"
Or Finn getting his name from Poe
Or Finn getting better aim once he stops being a Stormtrooper and escapes.
Ironically, 2187 is the cell Leia was locked in during A New Hope.
@@colemans8120 It was most likely a callback or easter egg.
Ugh, it's so nice to find a comments section that isn't hating on this movie. It was depressing the hell out of me
yup, especially because i love it so much.
MrAlienkiller the reason is its because it's just a copy of episode 4
stale memes Not sure if joking or not (your name makes me question) but if real, then so what? It was fun. God. Forbid. It was just fun. It was a well made movie. It had good characters, good music, great effects, and a good story. So it wasn't completely original, fair enough. But why does that make it bad? If a band does a tribute song of another band we don't jump up their ass telling them it's terrible do we? That's how I like to view these new Star Wars films, as more of a fun tribute to the originals.
but its just something we already saw not an acctually original story
stale memes So you never rewatch movies? Lol
Couldn't agree more on the Mary Sue points.
The funny thing is, she actually makes more sense than Luke did. Almost everything we see Luke do in all of the original movies is never explained how he learned it. I actually remember being a little kid watching Empire for the very first time thinking "Wait, how did he learn how to levitate objects?" when he pulls his lightsaber out of the snow at the beginning. Yoda never teaches him how to use a lightsaber, and yet he goes and fights Vader pretty damn well. And he uses the mind trick on Bib Fortuna in Jedi, again, seemingly out of nowhere.
But I think the point is that once you're in tune with the force, it acts similar to the spider sense that Peter Parker has. You just know certain things because the force tells you them. The problem with the prequels is that they made the idea of being a jedi out to be like some sort of spartan training camp where you study in combat from a young age. But I don't think that's really what Kasdan was going for when he wrote Empire. I think the point Yoda was making is that the spiritual stuff is far more important, and renders the physical stuff virtually meaningless. In IV, when Luke is training with Ben, as soon as he lets go and just listens to the force, he blocks three shots in a row. Ben tells him to "act on instinct." Same thing with Rey. She starts listening to the force and starts discovering her abilities.
People who have a problem with the Rey/Kylo fight are looking at it like it some sort of video game. As if Kylo has 100 force points and Rey only has 12, so he should have won. But I just think that's totally the wrong way to look at it. Rey won (it was more of a tie actually) because she finally gave herself into the force, just like Luke did when he switched off the targeting computer and blew up the Death Star. That's her arc. She goes from being self-reliant to realizing that she's part of something larger, much like Han's arc in IV was finally believing in the force.
TL;DR Force Awakens is awesome. Fuck the haters.
Relative to Her forebears and possible ancestors Anakin and Luke, Rey is a Mary Sue.
Episode I. Anakin is a tag along kid, a sidekick for all of the film. His only real victory the Pod race would not have been possible without the help of Qui-gon Jin who told him how "see" on purpose. The Destruction of the Droid control ship was pure dumb luck rather than some deliberate action on Anakin's part.
Episode II. Anakin fails or at the very least stumbles through the story, with only a few moments of looking heroic.
And at the end he loses his confrontation with a Dark sider badly, he is electrocuted and has his arm cut off at the elbow.
Episode III. Anakin is only heroic during the beginning of the film after that its all down hill from there for him.
He is put upon,manipulated and finally goes to the Dark Side and begins destroying everything that he once held dear.
In the end he is beaten,crippled and left for dead by his former mentor.
Episode IV. Luke is just along for the ride, accomplishes little without outside intervention. Han is more of a proactive hero than Luke is through out the film. Luke's true achievement in the film doesn't come without outside intervention.
Episode V. Luke is captured and nearly killed during the beginning of the film, has to be rescued from dying
of hypothermia by Han. While Luke is heroic during the battle of Hoth, he sits out the majority of the film as he
trains on Dagoba. Luke latter attempt to overcome Darth Vader...only to beaten and lose his right hand.
Episode VI. Luke is only really successful during the beginning first third of the film. he is a liability on Endore and subsequently leaves. Luke confronts Darth Vader but only wins do to succumbing to rage, however does't defeat the Emperor in a martial sense, he scores a moral victory however. In the martial since Luke loses the battle and is on the floor slowly being electrocuted. The people that actually win the day are Lando and Wedge two mere mortals.
Ray succeeds through out the course of the film and makes gain after gain, without experiencing major set backs or requiring significant effort.
Metaphysicist You have no idea what you're talking about.
Stephen Leotti
I know exactly what I'm talking about, you are either in denial or engaging in an act of willful ignorance.
+Stephen Leotti Care to elaborate on that?
As I see it, Rey has no flaws. That makes her a really boring character that no one can relate to. She's the living embodiment of bad character writing.
At least Luke and Anakin had flaws.
Fanfiction Scrutinizer I don't see why you would say she doesn't have any flaws. I don't think you were paying attention.
I'd say her biggest flaw, and the thing she ultimately overcame in the final fight, was her overconfidence. It's like what Luke said: "Your overconfidence is your weakness."
The entire movie we see her constantly saying things like "I know how to run without you holding my hand." She didn't know how to accept help from others or really how to deal with not being in charge. In the Falcon while hiding, she tries to mess with the wires and ends up letting the Rathtars loose -- so much for being perfect, eh? When she goes to try to save Finn, Kylo picks her up and slams her against a tree. During the fight, she's barely keeping up, and basically running away. She's realizing she doesn't have the strength on her own to win this fight, and that she's in over her head. The reason she wins is her realization that she hasn't been doing all of this on her own. It's not her own strength that's allowed her to come this far; it was the force. By digging deep and allowing herself to listen to the force and allow it to take control of her, she's completing her character arc. She goes from being totally self-reliant to reliant on the force, which mirrors Luke's arc in A New Hope when he turns off his targeting computer and destroys the Death Star.
That, sir, is NOT a Mary Sue. That is a fully-fleshed out, three dimensional character with a perfectly good arc. I figured all this out the first time I saw it in the theater. So, like I said, it makes me think you weren't paying attention, or you decided you hated it before you even saw it.
Kylo's "Broadsword' reminds me of Count Dooku's "epee/fencing" Lightsaber. Not only is it an extension of their personality, but also shows what type of style they are fluent in.
JJ did have things planned out....and then Disney messed it all up ;w; TFA had so much potential, it felt so refreshing, so sad with how it all ended up
JJ didn't really have a plan. He just set-up a story and hoped other writers would figure it out. I'm not saying it's his fault though. That falls on Disney executives. But he 100% didn't have all three movies mapped out.
JJ had no plan. Sequels suck. Finn was wasted. Disney thinks we’re asking for more strong female characters, when we just want better ones. Disney ignores more strong Black Characters so that’s why Finn was wasted. Rey sucks
@@MatthewLarson578 this is also news that was just made aware to people and my comment was made 8 months ago, I still liked TFA but they really messed it up after that
@@xxTC-96xx tfa was already messed up to an extent, but they made it so much worse because they didn’t have a plan. And because of that, horrible things happened and tfa becomes worse due to the “clues” being obsolete
@@MatthewLarson578 I'll still take it over the end results we got even if it was building to nothing
Dude, I thought I was the only one who felt that guy was doing a spot on Hitler impression.
go to imdb and look through the "no small roles" series. they do a good piece on him.
Everyone thought that actually?
TheEventHorizonX
Fuck off you shill.
histatimaniples Whaddaya mean "never seen"?! You *do* know that there's footage of Hitler giving speeches don't you? The fuck are you talkin' about?!
yeah, they don't compare to jar jar abrams chick flick .
All I ever hear about this movie is negative what's wrong with people it's a great movie
+Willie Ramsey Shut the fuck up
Its the plot holes, the many plot holes.
You might only be paying attention to the negative reviews, because have you seen this movie's ratings on IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes? It has been loved!
TFIta369 You mean the 300k who voted? yeah when a movie has a audience of close to a billion I don't use rotten tomatoes.
+Martis Endrell Or you could pay attention to what a movie tells you.
6:15 “This whole scene is thought out ahead of time”
Rian Johnson: *hold my beer*
It was badly thought out though. It makes no thematic sense for her to be Obi Wans daughter. You dont need a famous daddy to be a hero
@@danielclaro6049
No, it makes sense, it just doesn't say what you want it to say.
It also isn't the problem, Rian saw what JJ did in the previous film, and deliberately went out of his way to undermine it.
@@mikeshogunlee what does it say then?
@@danielclaro6049
That it doesn't matter who your parents are,
You can be whoever you want to be.
@@mikeshogunlee are we still assuming she was supposed to be Obi-wans grandkid?
I really don't get all the hate this movie got. I was grinning so hard the whole time, I was even tearing up a bit remembering all the good times I had watching the original six movies. The references made me laugh, the humor was on point, the new characters were obviously written for my generation and it all worked.
People are obviously bashing it because of its Star Wars tropes, how overpowered Rey is, and how whiny Kylo Ren is. I only have a problem with it burrowing plot points from A New Hope, and wasting Captain Phasma. Aside from those flaws, I still really enjoy this movie a lot.
I think anyone who loves the series would have to admit this was absolutely a more dignified return than the prequels. On that alone, I would always recommend this movie.
I grew up with Star Wars. Ain't nothing wrong with an update for a new generation.
Das Schadenfreude
Nope.
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how would obi-wan, who died 34 years ago, be the father of the 19-year-old Rey?
He probably meant to say grandfather
@@323starlight that means Obi-Wan had kids at some point.......Wich I find very unlikely.
Virgin Turtle 😂😂😂
One of my fav obi wan quotes! Thanks for the literal LOL
Time travel
The force mate, reckon u heard of that
50 Reasons Star Wars: The Force Awakens Was Great
1. Opening Crawl is Back and and it feels like Star Wars.
2. BB-8. Enough said...
3. Music obv....
4. Kylo Ren and EVERYTHING about him: Lightsaber, beliefs, voice, acting, story.
5. Comedy
6. Finn
7. Rey
8. Daisy Ridley
9. Setting of Jakku
10. Chemistry between Finn and Poe
11. Chase
12. Reveal of the Falcon
13. Flying the Falcon
14. Awesome Flip of the Falcon
15. BB-8 thumbs up
16. Foreshadowing of the Originals
17. Chewie, We're Home
18. Rathtar Full Scene. Great to see Han is back to smuggling.
19. Chewie getting shot is sad. It shows how much Han cares.
20. Snoke not being a giant
21. Practical Effects
22. Maz Kanata
23. Vader's Helmet
24. Awesome Dream Montage
25. Ewan McGregor
26. Luke's Lightsaber
27. TR-8R TRAITOR.
28. Finn with Lightsaber
29. X-Wing Battle
30. Han and Leia Reunion
31. Rey's Capture
32. Rey and Kylo's Force Fight
33. Daniel Craig
34. Han making fun of Starkiller
35. Chemistry between Rey and Finn
36. Han, Chewie, Finn Breaking In Starkiller
37. Battle of Starkiller Base
38. The way Han's death felt and how it was handled
39. Chewie's Emotional Reaction
40. The Lightsaber Battle
40. Rey Catching the Lightsaber
41. Finding the Force
42. Not killing Ren
43. Not Finn dying
44. Droids Reunion
45. May the Force Be With You
46. Luke Skywalker
47. The Best Star Wars Movie in 32 Years
48. Stormtrooper have personalities
49. It's a movie for the fans
50. STAR WARS IS BACK
I love your list.
Callum Murphy Star Wars is back
+Cole Soderstrom Star Wars was destroyed
Matthew Brant
The prequels already ruined Star Wars.
+Master Penguin at least the prequels have originality and they tell a story of Anakin's fall and the empires rise, they feel part of the saga but TFA doesn't. Star Wars was born in 1977 and died in 2012
RIP Star Wars 1977-2012☠
Rewatching this video and your Last Jedi video after seeing Rise of Skywalker, and wow, parts of these did not age well considering what we know now haha, but you can't be faulted based on something we didn't know at the time. I absolutely love your optimism, and watching your videos helps give me a deeper appreciation for cinema overall. Thank you for being a positive force that the internet so desperately needs.
When people say Rey is a Mary Sue I'm just like really? She can fight because like he said, she's been in her own her whole life and needed to learn how to fend for herself. She's good with mechanics because she regularly scavenges for mechanical parts! Never mind that she's also Force sensitive, giving her talents and knowledge beyond those that aren't She is very much like a female version of Luke, just because she's a main character and female that doesn't make her a Mary Sue.
Plus, it's mostly boys saying this. "I can't relate to her!" Well how fucking sad for you. I doubt a lot of girls could empathize with Anakin and his constant whinging, or Luke, or Obi-Wan, or the other male characters. Literally the only female characters we ever got to look up to were Leia and that one female general. Like at least give us a fucking choice of female characters!
Rey is so important to young girls. They now have another badass Star Wars hero that they can look up to who isn't just there to be a plot device. Rey is amazing and tbh most of the complaints are because of her gender. If she was a guy there would be much less whining from the fanboys.
There'd basically be none.
yes only female characters can be role models to girls.
Lighter My Kick I didn't say that, I said give us a choice of who we want. Girls want strong female role models so we can believe that we can grow up just like that. We're not boys. Hardly ever are we going to be able to relate to boys, in the same way boys can barely relate to girls.
Besides, it's been proven that people tend to look up to and emulate role models if they can relate to them in some way e.g. same gender. same race etc.
I just can't believe people think Rey is a Mary Sue. I think a Mary Sue is a character as Bella in Twilight. But Rey? Absolutely not.
+Nana Love Word. The extent to which the accusation gets repeated says a lot about how few people actually believe it.
I do believe Obi-Wan will be her grandfather, but the video said her father, and that just isn't possible due to the age gap....unless his force ghost was getting busy.
I'm Rey's grandfather.
BoilingKoolaid secret child of Obi and Satin?
Garen Crownguard My grandchild.
Garen Crownguard grandchild. Satin and Obi-Wan are Sabine's parents, and Sabine is Rey's mom. Just one of the theories being floated online.
***** Debunked.
Seriously, are people hating Star Wars for fun? I'm starting to believe that.
MadamPluto Its because it's wrong to actually enjoy a modern movie, it's just "cooler" to hate new shit automatically and praise the old as if it's flawless
Guilherme Almeida
I like the prequels more than The Return of the Jedi (no joke, I'm actually serious). The old trilogy is certainly not flawless. It's a shame that people seems to think you shouldn't like things. As I see it, it's not "cool" to hate for the sake of hating.
MadamPluto While I think that Return of the Jedi is the second best movie of the OT, I agree that the prequels are okay for most part. At worst, they are harmless. No star wars movie is perfect, they should stop pretending that is. I like them all in their own way.
This is even worse than when Abrams destroyed Star Trek.
***** Im a big Star Trek fan and I find the new Star Trek movies good for the most part. Stop saying he destroyed your childhood, because if its that easy to destroy your childhood, it kind of sucked then if it was that sensible.
Good day, mate.
Some fans need to understand that JJ was probably trying to pay homage to Episode 4: A New Hope; not trying to recycle the concept.
He was paying homage to the original trilogy. They start on Jakku which reminds us of A New Hope, Go meet Maz Kanata which reminds us of Return of the Jedi and end on Star Killer Base which reminds us of Empire
it was a perfect start to a new trilogy and it sucks that the directors switched. I can only imagine what could've been. Instead we got last Jedi which is a bad Star Wars movie but not a bad movie on its own, and a finale jam packed with jj trying to fix what the other director did. I enjoy episode 9 but it could've been better if the last Jedi was directed by jj. Sorry for the rant lmao
@@Tyler-rj6zy No worries, bro; I've legit seen worse. The prequels and sequels are total opposites in terms of what they do better and worse. The prequels expands the Star Wars universe vastly, yet fail to garner audiences in terms of the execution for many fans complained of the lack of backstories some characters of events have, claiming to having to access external materials like comics is not justifiable. On the other hand, the sequels are great films if we're talking about action and thrill, but lacks the depth of story the prequels possess. The original trilogy is somewhat in the middle of both, which is probably why it's well-praised.
Lai Yin Quan I for one like the prequels except for AOTC. The only problem that I had with the prequels was the cgi and a lot of people agree with that. The reason they used it so much was because Lucas wanted to expand the universe. If they used more classic Star Wars prop making mixed with cgi(and better acting in episode two)the prequels would’ve been amazing. But I agree with you on everything else. TLJ is a good movie by itself but in the sense that it’s the middle of a trilogy and supposed to be accomplishing storytelling it’s not great at. The only arc that it made for a character was Poe learning to be a leader. Rey really didn’t learn anything on the island that was usable. The only she got from the island was the Jedi texts. But I enjoyed ROS and I’m so upset J.J didn’t do all the films. My god that was long.
Honestly I would have loved the original episode 9 director (Colin Trevorrow) to direct episode 9. He looked to have really good ideas and maybe do something revolutionary that was not seen in the sequel trilogy. JJ is a pretty good director but I feel like he focuses too much on nostalgia and tends to break stuff that George Lucas made like Anakin's legacy. I would have loved to see what Colin Trevorrow could have done.
The reasons why some people hate this film are absolutely stupid
Wil Love agreed
I don't hate this movie, I kinda like it, but it's "meh" to me. Not bad, not awesome.
So I'll tell you what I like and dislike about this movie.
Sins:
- The old crew will aways be better (:V)
- Kylo Ren was not a good vilain. I mean, why did they replace Darth Vader with this emo?! I just want him to fuck off (probably something happens and ends his life. If not now, it has to happen in Episode IX, I hope).
- Also, his theme is not even close to be as good as the Imperial March.
- Not a very original plot.
- I knew Han Solo would end up dying, but the worst thing is knowing he got killed by his stubborn son.
- The way this "bad guy" worships Vader, but acts like a teenager with a lot of life and identity problems... No sir. Just stop it.
- Ok, I told you Kylo was "emo", but it seems like that's not all. He got beaten up by someone who didn't even train for it, and even if Rey is powerful with the Force, he has practiced for years! Geez, man, how much can you make me hate you?!
Wins:
- Rey is badass. She cares about her family, but still knows the right thing to do when she stopped fooling herself and accepted they wouldn't come back.
- Han Solo OMG (even though he's dead now ;-;) Also, Luke and Leia.
- Okay, Kylo Ren sucks, but he got an awesome lightsaber there, gotta admit!
- This movie has a stormtrooper who decided to change his life (COME ON, HOW COOL IS THAT?)
- Anakin's lightsaber. One word: Nostalgic
Indeed
No, it's just subjective. However, picking a fight with someone who actually loves the Star Wars sequels, is not acceptable!
People did not get that Kylo Ren wears a mask and distorts his voice because he's a Vader wannabe? Thought he recovered and enshrined Vader's mask just because it's a cool souvenir, did you? Wow, people are stupid.
Harrison was actually trying in this movie because he knew it would be his last Star Wars film.
Yep *Tear*
you never know he could get resurrected (but wait that would prob ruin the movie :/)
Yeah and he could always come back in flashbacks or something, who knows?
Just remember who fell down a giant hole in episode 1, and came back in the clone wars.. It isn't too impossible
+Ian Thompson It's way easier to justify someone who is force-sensitive and fueled by hatred and desire for revenge to survive than a regular human (even Han Solo)
The original movie told us that Han was a great pilot. The Force Awakens SHOWED us Poe was a great pilot.
Plus the Force Awakens had a big budget to show off big scale stuff and the original had a small budget. Then they showed Han being a good pilot in Empire and delivered with a great sequel Can you say the same about The Last Jedi?
I think Medichlorians are *attracted* to the force and do not create it. They seemed like another reason to believe the Jedi became disillusioned with the force and focused more on politics than they should have.
Exactly. The Jedi of the prequel era had turned the Force into a dogma that they used to maintain power - in that sense Palpatine was right. It took Order 66 and the subsequent exile for them to rediscover their connection to the natural force, in time for Obi-Wan and Yoda to train Luke. Why would a Jedi need a midichlorian count to confirm a force-sensitive being - they would just know it. The replacement of gut feelings with rules and mechanisms is part of why they fell.
Tom Barnes I thought the midichlorians attaching to someone's bloodstream is considered a symptom of being a Force sensitive. In fact, The Force does hold and maybe create life together. It holds the balance. As for the life aspect, bacteria which are the Midichlorians are the very foundation of life, like one celled beings in our time evolve into bigger creatures.
See I don't have any issue with the existence of Medichlorians...Remember 2 key things, the Jedi Order had existed for thousands of years and there were members who's SOLE responsability was to study the Force, meaning there were Jedi researchers and even Jedi scientists who would by there very nature, have quantified the Force to a much greater degree than the imperials and New Republic.
Or that is just way to explain force(know I'm late)
@@duskbladeofdraktharr4516 No the Force is a "magic" kind of energy, the midichlorians don't explain it, they quantify it.
" But who is Kylo talking to?"
The spirit of Jar Jar Binks
No, he was actually talking to Darth Vader.
Huge points to you for seeing how it's like a broadsword instead of a rapier with a billion sides
thank you for the positivity, the internet gave me a hard time liking TFA
Same
Fuck what other people think, think for yourself. Everyone loved this movie when it first came out, then a few weeks later a few people starting bitching about it. Then everyone else started to, they just go with what everyone else is doing
Don’t worry. I liked it, too.
@@Jakew9810 probably they have no mind of their own and are uneducated
Just ignore them! They just can't accept that many people (including myself) actually love this film to death! Is it perfect? No. But just picking a fight with someone just because you hated a particular film they liked, is just unnacceptable!
I feel like Kylo Ren is one of the most developed villains in recent movie history.
He's a great villain, but it still seems lime he is just a little brat with daddy issues.
so was luke
They have, in fact. Ben in Bloodlines has always had more authoritarian beliefs, being drawn towards the Imperial regime. Then came the shocker that he was Vader's grandson from some political rival of Leia's who revealed her to be Vader's daughter. In the novelisation, Snoke and Kylo discuss how Vader was a role model minus his moment of sentimentality and weakness at his end, so he knows how the story ends. Anything else?
***** Doesn't matter. If you care about such details and character backround, it's impossible you will shrug extra material off. Movie already includes enough so as not to fall under the ''plot hole'' category but also does not give everything away. Perfect balance. You wanna learn more? Info's out there!
***** Nah, I'm pretty sure it just flew over your head. That was my main beef with people that wanted more depth from the prequels.Some can't handle more depth, so why demand it?!
Look at Driver's awesome portrayal again.
9:22
Han: I love you.
Ben: I know.
(gently pushes Han over the ledge)
Han as he falls: Great shot, kid! That was one in a million!
Zaboo: "Too soon'd?"
You guys are horrible, but I'm laughing anyway. XD
Not enough credit to Chewie. He's the under rated MVP here. Bowcastered Kylo in the gut. Blew the explosives. Rescued the heroes.
MrsRosencranz1 it's because he is a wookie. aliens are underappreciated in the star wars universe with the exception of Yoda 😞
Didn't even get a medal in IV. What the frak?
Rey being a scavenger actually IS the explanation for her technical skills. She built that speeder out of scrap. Such a knowledge outside of what jedi are normally taught is why she eventually weilds a yellow lightsaber.
I really like this movie, it's a great Star Wars movie and proof that this new trilogy is on good tracks.
But I still regret the story being too similar to episode IV and the underuse of Captain Phasma.
Yeah, those are my only gripes with this movie. But I still enjoy it nonetheless.
Clowdono captain Phasma is the boba fett if this movie
The similarities to IV don't bother me really. I get that they needed to play it safe after the reaction to the prequels and the similarities are quite superficial, there's a lot going on with the new characters which makes this film and the promise of future films all the more interesting. But, Phasma annoyed me, not even that she was underused just the fact that she was seemingly forgotten in the end. There was so much hype for her character, I hope 8 delivers on that.
Samuel95
Honestly, I'm not really bothered by the similarities as well.
Watching and observing are literally the same thing.
Totally agree with all points in the video, *except* the "Rey might be Obi-Wan's daughter" theory. Obi-Wan died when Luke, Leia and Han were still young (approx. 30 years before The Force Awakens). There's no way Rey (played by a 23 year old) is meant to be 30+ years old. If Obi-Wan had a secret son or daughter that we didn't know about, she could conceivably be that person's daughter... maybe. Other than that, loved this video. When people started crawling out of the woodwork to criticise this movie, I used these exact same reasons to jump to its defence. LOVED it.
*Granddaughter but yeah I do agree with you. To be Obi-Wan's daughter, she'd be Luke's age in this movie.
I don't understand? You agreed with me, but also tried to correct me? The guy in this video doesn't say grandfather, he says, "She's not bent over because she's tired from running. Much like her potential *father* before her, she feels the disturbance in the Force of billions of voices crying out that were then silenced." And he also says, "One more hint to Rey's *father* - who was the first person to use the Jedi Mind Trick in a very similar fashion?" I was simply disagreeing that Obi-Wan couldn't possibly be Rey's father. I did say in my comment, however, that it's possible she is his granddaughter.
+HerHollyness I agree that she's related to Obi Wan, but considering his age in the OT, it wouldn't make sense for her to be his daughter. I agree with everything else you said. I was just correcting that small point
Obi-Wan's force ghost hooked up with a loose alien at the bar in Mos Eisley.
Nick94956 But... that's exactly what I did say! I'm still confused by your comment there, sorry!
Finn is good at lightsaber fighting because probably all troopers get trained at melee combat.
I'm pretty sure he'd still have at least basic weapons training.
yeah thats what I said
Ibe Vanholme lightsaber saber is much diffrent than your normal weapon
kinda but still...if they were clones they couldeve been programmed, maybe we should consider an clone army XD
Ibe Vanholme I thought Finn wasn't a clone
I saw this movie in theaters and when Rey pulled the lightsaber, almost everyone stood up and cheered. It was a magical experience.
Sounds nice. Hardly anyone ever seems to applaude, while I'm in the theater.
they clapped at the end both times i watched it. no one was hoping for prequel level dialogue and we were treated to a return to the OT level quality.
That's so nice to hear. I never got to see it in theaters but it's one of my favorite Star Wars movie overrall
I remember when I watched Attack of the Clones in Theaters when Yoda pulled out his Lightsaber the entire Theater started going crazy and cheering I’ll never forget that moment in life such better times
Instabread WAS A PRACTICAL EFFECT I love that :D
Tazzie1312 it taste really bad apparently though
It’s probably just tasteless.
Shut up and take my money!
I really love this channel more than words can describe. Not that I dislike the channels that poke fun at the things movies do wrong, but it can get disheartening to only hear criticism about movies I actually liked. It's nice to see the positives given some attention too because I feel like it kind of makes me feel better for liking movies that everyone seems to hate c: Thank you for putting it into words.
couldn't agree with this video more! Finally someone who agrees with how I feel about this movie rather than all the unnecessary attacks on this movie!
Yeah! :D
People hate it because its a "remake of the new hope" but I love it
The funny thing is, these people are the same ones, that complain that Kylo is a crybaby. If they rely on testet concepts, they are complaining and if they try something new they also complain.
+Narri_queen of awesomeness Longbridge Agreed, frankly I think a lot of people are either low in faith, or very shortsighted. This will be the only movie in the new trilogy that will emulate so much from another. It had to succeed in the task of showing people how Star Wars had returned to its core, the grassroots. The "this is a remake" argument won't be valid for Episodes VIII and IX, because they will take us out of the comfort zone this film had to put audiences in; The comfort zone of practical effects, Han Solo, and everything else mentioned in this video. The comfort zone that this film absolutely needed to be a commercial success.
Seriously if you see how bad this movie is, you're actually blind.
No mention of the line: "That's one hell of a pilot!"?
Hello Sebastian.
If it turns out that rey is not a skywalker that would explain the lack of complaing and whining we usually see in the skywalker family lol
I am with you it was a good movie. its better then the prequals and feels a bit like original trillogy. But does not pretend the prequals didn't happen and acknolege it. Which is good.
i think jj confirmed she's not.
Unless he is saying that to through us off track but it would explain the lack of whining lol
Colm Lambe i hope she's not, i think she's a force baby.
Ya or maybe the miss step was on purpose. I would not put it pass them you know difficult it is to make a movie and keep things underaps now days its difficult now and almost imposible now too keep plot a secret. So maybe just maybe jj did it on purpose as a way to screw with our heads lol
Its not like there were many sith during the Clone Wars so it should be easy to narrow it down. Who knows maybe he wasn't even a sith, maybe he was a jedi that went into hiding after Order 66 and became corrupt
does no one else honestly think that the guy who plays kylo wren looks like a young severus snape? please say i am not alone in this
i see where your coming from, but i just cannot get the image of Snape out of my head
i thought he resembled Snape as well!
thank you! I am not alone!
Nicktrains thompson well now that you say it...
Potterheads actually want Adam Driver to play a young Snape!
Wow 141 people missed the like button.
No 177
+HiT _ Aren't you insecure!
+HiT _ bye
They must have Storm Trooper aim.
Awesome comment dude!
I saw this and Hans death made my jaw drop. I had no idea it was coming until that evil blade ignited.
"One of the galaxy's most beloved smugglers, rebellion generals and guy who unequivocally shot first" To be fair only two people actually fit that description, him and Malcom Reynolds.
Touche.
And Captain Mal was cut INCREDIBLY short. If he had the exposure of Han I think most would agree that neither is better but they are EQUALS.
I think she got her British accent from her mother. And I think her mother might be Jyn from Rogue One. It's just a theory though so take everything I say with a grain of salt.
That would be awesome! I doubt they'd reveal that in Rogue One though. And they'd have a hard time even hinting at it since the internet will dissect it.
+CinemaWins how csn jyn or obi be her parents? have you forgot how many years these movies have in between?
They've already announced Jyn is not Rey's mom. And also, the theory with Obi Wan is that he's her grandfather, and that's the one I personally believe.
who is then Obi´s wife? i personally believe she is a skywalker. unaware of her powers, loves to fly (obi doesn´t) can speak with drones and is a technician..... and i do not want to say she is luke´s daughter.... no, she is THE ONE who brings balance back to the force.... she is technically born by the force justlike anakin. just think of it
Faris Hedzic Yeah, I've heard of that, and I don't personally believe it. As for Obi-Wan, apparently he meets someone in the Clone Wars series (I haven't seen it, so I can't say who) and the theory is that they hooked up before she left. She never told him she was pregnant, had a kid, that kid grew up and birthed Rey later.
This wasn't a completely original movie, but the people who say it was a bad movie have _no soul_. No excitement, no optimism.
+Zerebrat Eightyseven ..i think you have no idea what you re talking about..try and think before you type
Zerebrat Eightyseven I am so tired of hearing that argument.
its not even an arguement
that people on the cinema sins video didnt get the sarcasm and took it all serious..cinema sins loved that film
Hugh Jarce - I am tired of hearing that argument, because the quality of a film is not defined by how "Original" it is. Art receives props for creativity, an it can be portrayed in many ways. Take the "Mona Lisa" for example; It is a painting of a lady... Do you know how many paintings of ladies exist in this world? We even see Ladies in REAL LIFE. So, why is it a masterpiece? Because it´s not about something that was never done before or about being original, it´s about portraying it in a way that captivates differently. It´s about how you make it, and Film-making is just another art form.
The Original Star Wars was already using a lot of "Tropes" that were used in the past. The typical "evil army" (that was a direct reference to the Nazis), the typical war between good and evil, the typical band of misfits, the typical small rebellion who upholds "freedom"; lots of things that have been done before. But what matters is how you work with what you chose to use and the results of it.
I can even go further and say that the similarities between Episode IV and Episode VII were done on purpose to make a point about fate and how the force works or something like that (because art is subject to interpretation). Even Han-Solo, when presented with the plans of the "Death Star 3.0" at the Mission brief, says blatantly, and I QUOTE: "So? It´s Big". EVEN HIM acknowledge there is a complete parallel between the present and the past. The characters are Self-aware that it´s the same thing.
No Star Wars film to date has as good lightsaber sound design as this one does. Rey using it at 10:14 is the best version of the sound so far. Including TLJ.
Particularly Kylo Ren's saber! Clearly the most menacing sounded one out of any lightsaber in the Star Wars franchise!
I find that TFA intentionally had drawbacks to ANH. The whole thing in-movie was because the First Order was focused on living up to/surpassing the legacy the Empire had. And when that happens, history repeats itself. I find it to be a little clever to pull off. And by doing this, they also played it safe with this tatic.
ChaosMakesAMVs
Plus, George Lucas has said that the trilogies are supposed to mirror each other. While I amit, it may have been mirrored slightly too much here,I don't think it matters too much, it was a good film.
People need to stop hating, just for the sake of it being "cool".
So, no problems? Is that what you're saying?
Seriously, Star Wars is all about cycles and the unchanging nature of the Light and Dark Sides, and has been since the initial Expanded Universe. There is always an Empire, and there must always be Light to oppose it.
I'm being facetious, but seriously, that opinion's a cop-out when the initial franchise was *based on the literal monomyth and deliberately so.*
I suppose your thought process is that it's only fair you ignore this thing called this Sith Empire? Revan, Malak, ring any bells? Or the Rakata, before them?
Citation needed on the ruining everything bit. Yeah, the First Order blew up the capitol, but the Republic itself lives on. I get the sense that they're a new threat wearing old colors. And to be frank, thinking everything is hunky-dory just because Palpatine bit it is dumb and unrealistic, and the Expanded Universe makes that clear too. And as shown, some elements are the same (the Star Killer isn't a win for a reason), but the actors and circumstances are quite different.
Still good Light vs. mighty Dark, with Dark having the superweapons.
Even match is also...kinda what is happening here in TFA.
Wait, are you saying that there are people that think the writers for TFA made it like ANH and just hoped nobody would notice? I think I finally understand why people don't like this movie, not because there's anything wrong with the movie. Because people now aren't smart enough to figure out that it was intentionally supposed to be like ANH.
Rey is definitely too young to be Obi-Wan's daughter. Granddaughter maybe
Obi was supposed to be in his 50s by the events of a new hope. So... Yeah granddaughter
There is another rumor from leaked script detail that might reveal who she is really...
Actually when they started filming there was a rumor that there would be Obi-Wan's granddaughter (Google it, you will find multiple articles about this rumor), so it would've been not a secret in the first place if Rey is really his granddaughter. It would be awesome to see Anakin's and Obi-Wan's grandchildren fighting, but still I think they are probably going with the Rey Random. Since she is the first real female protagonist of Star Wars, they wouldn't risk it to make her bloodline 'define' her.
Rey was born literally 15 years after Obi-Wan died.
Didn't stop Anakin. Just saying. Besides the whole thing about Jedi not being allowed to have children is a stupid idea that only serves to limit the franchise.
When this movie came out it got about a month of love. Then someone said it was an homage to A New Hope, then someone else said it was a flat out copy of A new Hope, it started being liked by less and less people, then when Rogue One came out everyone decided to start trashing it again. This just goes to show that nobody hates Star Wars more than people that love Star Wars.
TOBLERONE TUBE Its the truth what you say. Episode 8 for only six weeks after it comes out people will love it. Nitpicking Star Wars fans love.
It turned out the answer to Rey’s parentage was way way stupider than you suggested.
Turns out it was a lot more meaningful too
It was pretty obvious if you ask me.
Chewy grunting "I don't know" in response to the question of whether Han was a war hero or not cracks me up.
6:42 Well, she didn't say anything that other characters didn't say in old movies or TV shows. Plus, not everyone knew about Midi-Chlorians, so...
Dead Head I still love midichlorians for being a "science-meets-magic" thing. A microorganism that can help channel Force energy into (at least some of) the Jedi.
I think of it as a science vs faith thing. Some people try to explain mysteries in life through science while others rely on faith and acts of God. Qui-gon Jinn probably learned about the force from a biological explanation, or it's the explanation he preferred best. Obi-Wan probably heard both explanations, but didn't want to overwhelm Luke at first with all the details, so he told him the simpler, faith-based explanation of the force, but never got a chance to tell him the rest, since he died. As for Yoda, he is just further training Luke to channel the force better, so he doesn't need to tell him about the biological origins of it. After that, Luke is now the only living Jedi left, so all he knows is the faith-based explanation. Either way, who's to say which explanation is correct, if not both. I myself prefer the force to be a mystery.
Matthew Chenault Yes. Thank you. See guys, Matt gets it.
I always thought it was an interesting concept as to why some folks are more force senstive than others.
Also why bloodlines were important to some jedi cultures ( the fucks on the council were NOT The only ruling body in the old republic ).
Dead Head let us have hope dammit
Your Rey anti-MarySue points are...just...thank you. I honestly don't know how all people don't come up with those obvious conclusions themselves. It's all in the context of her story.
Ginger Turquoise Winning a lightsaber duel against Luke freaking Skywalker's apprentice when MaRey Sue had never touched a lightsaber until that very god damn day.
Shit movie? Shit movie.
Side Note: it's perfectly fine to like bad movies. I liked the Angry Birds Movie for example. But if you are willing to ignore the obvious flaws of a movie just because you liked it then there is a problem.
Slamburger the Master of Pissing People Off but he...just explained...nvm
She's a mary sue.
As everyone else here has stated. New about the force for a few hours. Never weilded a Lightsaber before (Yes she wielded a STAFF. Much different from a Vibroblade and Lightsaber). She said she flew ships before but never left the planet (Which isn't possible. Flying a ship in orbit to get around isn't something you do, thats called piloting a speeder. So she hasn't flown a ship before.
Mary Sue Attributes:
Never Piloted a Ship before (Was a god at it)
Defeated a Trained Dark Side User who was trained in Lightsaber and Force combat.
There are more but for sake of keeping the attributes equal I am not going to add any more.
Anti-Mary Sue Attributes:
Was left on a planet by her parents (Did you ever notice how the ship we see flying away from her looks oddly similar to the one we see Leia arrive in later on in the movie)
Lost her Father Figure
As for Luke, People could say "Oh, he is a mary sue (most people think that can only relate to women. No. It can relate to both Male and Female) character because he...."
He what? What has he done in his first movie that was some great feat. Blew up the Deathstar? Yes, He did. After training half his life to be a pilot on the side lines of working as a moisture farmer for his uncle. So we know he has past experience in air combat.
As for Anakin, He was the burden of a prophecy corrupted by evil. In the first movie he flys a ship similar to a pod racer (as he states) and blows up a Droid Blockade Ship from the inside. So yes. He could be titled a mary sue character UNTIL we get to ATOC in which we see his no so mary sue life. Internal Struggle for the love of Padme and the Life of his mother slipping from his hands as he murders a pack of Sandpeople because of it.
YES, REY IS A MARY SUE!
The problem with much of that argument is that Kylo wasn't trying to kill Rey but convert her to his side. So he could have been Mace MotherF***ing Windu and the lightsaber fight would have been the same, he was just playing with her, getting her to be tired, and getting her to feel emotions, not actually trying to kill or really defeat her. So her basic melee weapon skills combined with Kylo holding back is why she didn't get killed.
She piloted ships around the planet. Ships fly around the planet within atmosphere to move cargo and passengers around all the time. Plus she isn't great at piloting the ship as you can see her make plenty of mistakes, the thing is because she is force sensitive she has better reflexes and so can pilot the ship through those wrecks and stuff because she can sense when to turn the ship and such.
A Mary Sue is a character who reveals their ability only when they need it. All of Rey's abilities are explained or shown before she needs them. She is not a Mary Sue. Now she COULD be an Overpowered character, which is VERY different and honestly is what most people seem to be mistaking the term Mary Sue for.
As for Luke being a Mary Sue. Well he is shown to be an average farm boy, but then when they need pilots to attack the death star he suddenly is revealed to have piloting skills. We don't see him using those skills before, and are simply told he has them in the scene right before they are needed. That puts it on the line of being a Mary Sue. When Rescuing Leia he sure does a lot of heroic things that don't seem like his character should be able to do, he is even a better shot than Stormtroopers who are professionally trained soldiers. However they are able to save his character from being a true Mary Sue by having him go through a bunch of training and such. But then, he is a rather Overpowered character which again many people mistake for being a Mary Sue.
I personally think Rey's character is a little overpowered but not a Mary Sue and that she will probably be revealed to be the kid of some powerful person and stuff to explain the overpoweredness. But it is an issue with all of Star Wars, the main character is ALWAYS overpowered. Anakin was probably the most overpowered as he could do pretty much everything.
vidarDJ16starkill Kylo didn't hesitate to kill his own father in the most evil manner possible yet he was holding back on MaRey Sue because?
Also even if his objective wasn't to kill MaRey Sue why didn't he just force faint her like he did before?
Ok let's assume that Kylo DID hold back against MaRey Sue, but then how and why the heck did he lose to Finn? He should be furious with him after all his traitorous actions, yet either Luke's apprentice who slaughtered the rest of Luke's students wasn't strong enough to defeat an inexperienced stormtrooper or he was holding back which makes even less sense.
I care way too much about a movie i hate, it's best if i stop.
In conclusion TFA is unsalvagable garbage but if you like it, fine.
I dont know why this movie has so much hate!
I know it has MANY similarities to A New Hope, but this movie is AWESOME!
George Lucas said that the trilogies are supposed to rhyme like verses in a poem; see the similarities between The Phantom Menace and A New Hope, and the other OT and corresponding prequel films. For example, Qui Gon, Obi Wan, and Han (whose names even literally rhyme) are all killed with a light saber by a Sith in the first movie of each trilogy, respectfully.
@@landonadams8122 *Qui Gon Jinn
Only correction: 12:33.
Kylo Ren is not a Sith.
Jedi & Sith are religions. Without a teacher you can't learn about, and therefore become a part of the religion. The Sith died with Sidious, & Vader. & The Jedi will die with Luke.
So Kylo is not a Sith,
& Rey is not a Jedi.
They are simply Force wielders. AND THAT'S OK. They don't need to be Jedi or Sith.
Its interesanting read your commentary after seeing the Last Jedi
THANK YOU!
If anymore proof of that is needed, just look at their names. Snoke and Kylo Ren are not sith names. A sith name will always start with the word "Darth" and end with word relating to what the sith does (Vader invades, Sidious is insidious, Tyranous brings tyranny).
@@sparksparklez Except that Vader doesn't have anything to do with invading. It does mean "Father" in Dutch though.
@@TheJessecarpenter While that is true, german isn't a language in the Star Wars universe.
THIS IS THE CHANNEL I LOVE AND WAS LOOKING FOR MY WHOLE LIFE!!
Good movie or bad, this guy loves giving credit to the effort that's been made! Props to you! Looking forward to this channel growing!
This is how I look at every movie I see.
Someone else who actually looks at movies with positivity instead of trying to find faults. FINALLY
I agree maybe a critic does, but I think every general audience should just look at the positive. Not nick pick
+Nick94956 yessss
*How about looking for the positives AND the faults?*
Revolutionary, I know.
+SupplySide Jesus Its possible to do both but that'd just be a normal movie review channel
These videos are A breath of fresh air after all of the hate this Trilogy gets, especially The Force Awakens!
Yeah, same
I agree. The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker are still pretty bad but I actually enjoyed The Force Awakens the most
Yeah, you're probably better off ignoring all those negative videos about the sequals altogether.
I think what would be great in Rey's character arc going forward is that now that she's aware of her Force abilities, she'll start to slowly get more confident and sure of herself, but it will eventually morph into overconfidence and then into arrogance. That arrogance will lead to her desire for greater power, ultimately setting up her pull towards the Dark Side.
Yeah. The way they need to write this one is the opposite of before, The Original Trilogy I mean. Instead of Rey fighting hard and showing Ben the goodness of the light side she becomes so obsessed herself with power that she falls to the Dark Side and it shocks Ben into flipping sides. Do I think they will do this? Fuck no they will take the easy way out but it would be a HELL of a good story.
lovethepandainyou The loss of Han Solo would work in that scenario as well. And she isn't arrogant right now, but that's because all of her life she didn't know what power was because she had none. Now that she has a power far beyond her own understanding, I doubt that her personality will stay the same because now she knows what power feels like, and she won't want to give up what she's never had before. She'll want more and more until it consumes her.
+Spent Lizard That's a leap that really isn't borne out by what we know of her personality, at all.
We saw some of that for sure when she defeated Kylo Ren..I actually always question if Kylo Ren wanted to see that..
Since we already know that Rey has _already_ had to deal with acting out in anger, I feel like she might start falling towards the dark side, but I really _really_ don't want her to become a sith or dark side user. In a way, I like her character too much for that to be my wish. I think she's stronger than that myself, but the way she struggles is just too real, and tense, for them to ignore it. My personal hope is that, if she tends to lean towards the dark side, is that her love for Finn (and yes, this is assuming that their feelings go beyond 'just friends', but really, it's practically set up in the film. That long hug scene, for example, and the way Finn cradles Rey's head when she's hurt, it doesn't feel like and entirely platonic relationship. And that line "Got a boyfriend? Cute boyfriend?" feels like foreshadowing for her feelings for Finn. Even if it's only on Rey's side, I feel like there's a very strong connection between the two that goes far beyond the friend line. Anyways, back to my main point) will bring her back. Because obviously hate and anger doesn't bring balance to the Force, and apparently the Jedi Code (there's probably a new one now with Luke, but still) doesn't seem to work all that well either, but perhaps love could. It's entirely a light side emotion, aside from the passion, which is often a character of the darker traits. Perhaps that's what settles the Force. Idk, it's just an odd little theory/idea I've had sitting around in my head for a while. Please feel free to provide constructive criticism, cause I'm honestly interested in other's ideas.
Aaah! This is perfect! I love how you elaborated on the entire "Rey is a Mary-Sue" thing, because all of the people saying that have been driving me insane
I thought the same thing!
+Chromaggia They fail to realize that luke was the same
+Behemothokun Luke was worse: he evolved too very fast. This girl wasn't evolving, she was being revealed (or awakening), not just to us but to herself IMO, the same as vader being revealed to luke in the originals.
Mark Donald he is severely injured, he was shot with Chewie's Bow-Caster, the weapon they pointed out to be fucking powerful, multiple times in the movie. that's how.
I couldn't agree more. People calling Rey a Mary-Sue don't know what one really is - that's all I can figure out. Either that, or they don't believe a woman can be empowered without being one, which is the same thing.
Adam Driver steals every scene throughout the trilogy 💯💯
10:00 I love this scene.
I love it so much, because the film blindsided me.
I always thought that it would be FINN who was the one who became a Jedi.
Instead . . .
Expectation subversion at its finest.
You forgot one: Daisy Ridley. (adds 10 wins)
Yep.
Daisy Ridley was a Mary Sue.
+TacoCatVids And that's meaningless.
+TacoCatVids Ahhh so you're one of THOSE trolls. I see…
Accents aren't genetic...
True, but do film makers know that?
CinemaWins I thought everyone did...
yeah, they aren't genetic. I'm Irish born but qouting my friends "you have an American accent"
well its possible her parents also had that accent. rey looked like she was still a kid in that flashback, but still old enough to have developed an accent.
SCIFI RICE And old enough enough to have lost it over time.
I hate how it became a popular thing to hate this movie. I honesty have loves Star Wars since I saw episode 4. And I think this movie is one of the best in the series.
Same here.
Ajaws2414, more like better version of A New Hope.
TLJ was amazing as well. People will hop on any bandwagon, and go see the movie with this preconceived notion, not an open mind. They go ready to criticize, not to have fun.
jackie Well said!
jackie these films has flaws like any other film but since it's star wars and some how that means if it's not a 10/10 masterpiece of cinema history it sucks 0/10 worst film ever
I remember back in the day (around 2007-2008) everyone hated the prequels, and I really liked them (of course I was only 5 when Revenge of the Sith came out so I grew up with them so I’m a bit bias) but I loved everything Star Wars and I still do, and now the same thing is happening, a lot of people are complaining about the new movies when I really like them, seriously I don’t think a Star Wars movie has released with the majority of people’s thoughts and opinions being positive since Return of the Jedi in 1983
I’m with you man. If you love the sequels that is 100% OK. You do not have to listen to those on the Internet that wine and complain all the time you make your own decision. my favorite sequel was the force awakens. Even if the sequels were not good we at least got rogue One solo rebels Mandalorian and clone wars . And much new things coming .
Honestly, I think that most people really like the sequels, it's just that the fans who hate it are simply more vocal. There's a scene that perfectly sums it up:
"My friends. I'm sorry. I thought we had a shot. But there's just too many of them."
"But there are more of us Poe. More of us."
Rogue One? And TFA was very well received.
I absolutely agree.
Also I am quite sure that they are going to age the same way the prequels did.
New viewers coming in, drawing their conclusions in an unbiased way, seeing the quality behind a lot of things, and most likely love them.
I surely do. Of course I have a few quips with the films, things I would have preferred to see differently, but that’s the same with the rest of Star Wars. I thoroughly enjoy the sequels. And I’m not afraid to say it.
I just realized that Rey's goggles are part of an old Storm Trooper helmet, or at least she used the eyepeices to make them.
I never realized that, her helmet reminded me of the tusken raiders from the prequels
Jobe Sky Walker
Totally knew that
*sarcasm*
+Jobe Sky Walker they were in both
+PixlPlayer oh yeah, Anakin murdered them didn't he?. I just never remember that scene, my bad.
Do you forget they were shooting at Podracers in EP 1?
Rey's theme and Jedi Steps deserved wins. I don't know how people can say this score was bad.
Yep.
It wasn't as memorable as Episodes 1-6. For being John Williams last Star Wars movie before retirement he really didn't have any standout scores.
I will have to agree that this was the worst Star Wars movie in terms of score. But that's like saying the weakest nuclear bomb, healthiest cheeseburger, or most accurate storm trooper.
The score was awesome, we just need a little more Duel of the Fates.
Episode IV is my least favorite in score (and movie itself), but of course, they were just getting started, and can't be blamed if they just got better than what was already good.
Speaking as a lifelong, die-hard Star Wars fan, Force Awakens was a welcome change from the generally hit-or-miss feel of the Prequel Trilogy. Its parallels to New Hope are impossible to ignore, making it feel a bit like it was trying to pay homage more than be its own thing, but Abrams at least had his sights set in the right direction. Kylo Ren comes off as something of a "try-hard" villain in my eyes, but that may be because I've put a lot of hours into the MMO, Old Republic, where a LOT of Sith players all too often pattern their dialog choices with the "evil for the sake of evil" mindset without any real purpose or legitimate impact. Last Jedi gave Kylo a bit more depth, but in this film, he's barely more than an angsty kid trying to fill a void that isn't really there. Finn is a good character concept, even if the execution isn't done as well as it could've been and the conflict with Phasma over his defection from the First Order has yet to receive any satisfying payoff. Poe feels like he was meant to REPLACE Han Solo with his piloting skills, snarky attitude, and general disrespect for authority figures, which only makes Han's death sting that much more, and gives the New Trilogy a real Mortal Kombat X vibe for me, with a new, younger group coming in to replace the characters we know and love from older installments. Rey... Rey angers me more than she honestly should, but that's more my problem than the movie's. A lot of my issues with her come from moments that don't really feel earned combined with a preference for the Expanded Universe over the Cinematic and how each version chooses to do things. Actually, that sums up my problems with the New Trilogy pretty well: To me, everything either feels too detached from everything to come before it, or like it was trying too hard to take what people loved about the older films and simply amp up the intensity or scale. I don't know what it is about the spin-off films like Rogue One, or the Clone Wars and Rebels series, but the main aspect of the Star Wars Cinematic Universe just doesn't hold my love like it used to. I've even started losing my blind, nostalgic love of the older films because of it. Hypocrisy over the prequels when excitement over new Star Wars content after so many years turned into a bandwagon of hatred, Palpatine and Vader both lost a lot of their mystique until the Clone Wars series--the CG, Dave Filloni one, not the original miniseries--got made which actually brought the Chosen One prophecy to some real payoff and made Anakin's shift from Jedi to Sith more gradual, and even Empire is no longer the flawless masterpiece that I fell in love with as a kid in my eyes because I've seen what the Expanded Universe has to offer, not to mention one or two sci-fi series with far better and more consistent writing (Go watch babylon 5 and Firefly if you haven't already. You'll thank me later).
TL;DR, The films are good, but the REAL magic of Star Wars can be found in the Expanded Universe. Books, games, comics, whatever. Most of it is a gold mine, so start digging.
I cant be bothered reading this, but I'll like it anyway.
"Promise that it was all though out ahead of time and Im taking that promise to the bank." Yeah that check bounced. There was no plan at all.