Who is Exo Drone? - Exo Blackhawk 2 Pro & Exo Mini Pro
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 28. 07. 2022
- Before the reviews I answer the question. Who is Exo Drone? I also explain the partnership with Hubsan and how this all works. I was sent the Exo Blackhawk 2 Pro & Exo Mini Pro but before those reviews lets clear this topic up with fact not fiction. I have zero love for Hubsan the company but see potential in their drones. I am supporting Exo and hopeful they do all they say so we'll see how this play's out in time.
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Yes, I know EXO just sold to openstore. đđ»
I like Exo. I asked if they would upgrade the 501s and they responded right away đ I have moved on to acro flight, and all custom builds, but my first 501 still flies, and I still take it with me! The crash record on the 501 surpassed all my carbon fiber drones. I would consider the larger Exo for stable shoots. I'm happy with Exo as well. The ribbon cable issues are not hubsan exclusive. I'm running a Hawkeye Firely 4k split and the cable is killin me. They can be shimmed with clear plastic, but it you push the cable and the picture goes nuts.
Good info for new drone pilots. Thanks for putting this together. Most in the drone community know at least bits and pieces of the company's efforts, but mostly its about the hardware, not the relationships etc. Good research and useful to make purchase decisions. đ
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Good info as always Chris, thanks for sharing. Iâve been following EXO since the start and they have come a long way. Hoping to continue to see good things from them. I have the original Blackhawk (Zino pro plus) as well as the Blackhawk 2 pro. (Ace Pro) and Iâm very happy with both.
Thanks you proved what I said. There is a market and people will buy them. Itâs good to hear itâs been positive too so thanks for sharing. âïž
â@QCGUY I also have an original blackhawk.. haven't flown it much but hey my FAA reg is still valid.. what do you do for the remote ID? Doesn't the app already comply with this?
Well 4 little words.... I told you so đđđ you were spot on pal
As usual, Chris giving a totally frank, no BS review. It's what sets him apart. I agree. EXO is very brave.
Thanks itâs lonely being the straight shooter surrounded by so much sugar. đ
@@QCGUY fkn aye!
I just checked out their drones. Got some good products at good prices! Whenever I'm ready to upgrade I'm going to look into these guys.
I would really like to see them succeed. It would be nice to have a choice. Now if Fimi could do something like that their reputation may be improved as well. I am still rocking that Zino 2+ I bought from you and it flies great! I got some filters for it to tame the lens flare and its actually been a really good drone. Oh and I always watch your stuff. I learn something EVERY time.
Always love hearing a drone I sold is doing well. Warms my heart! lol
Fimi is one I always looked to improve but they keep taking that easy route with the same model different name unfortunately.
That was my first drone too after watching Chris videos about it
Great to know all this good video
I listened to every word! I'm looking forward to your flight tests of the Exo drones.
Thanks buddy!
I fly the zino2+ and the mini pro on a regular basis and had no issues at all.
In the EXO line up have they changed things like geo fenced the drones?
No geofencing
Thanks Chris.
This is about what I thought for XO. I wish them well as long as they follow through with their promises.
Well they already sold and ditched. lol
Great video, very informative, however how you catched such chirping constant sound in background?
Electronic noise interference, shit happens đ€·ââïž
Excellent review Chris, thank you đ
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Great in depth video,thanks much!!!can I use zino mini pro propellers for the exo mini pro?.exo is sold out .thanks.
Yes, they are the same drones and props. You can also use these which are good if not better. www.masterairscrew.com/products/hubsan-zino-mini-pro-se-stealth-upgrade-propellers-x4-red
Itâs a start letâs see what they do Nexted will tell a lot quick air2 s army out 6
Nice video. You covered all the points. I live in Australia and I'm glad I don't have the option to buy an EXO DRONE.
I agree. If EXO were selling drone parts that will make a GREAT difference.
Yeah I feel very firm in saying it will serve them well to serve us. I donât like companies keeping the simple parts just so they can get a work order out of people for the quick money fix. They think we are all stupid and donât see that.
Well you did point out something unrelated to EXO, that you have trouble getting repair parts from Autel. I crashed my original e2p 6K drone and they wanted $1,300 to repair it, so I just bought a new one. I'm not sure what all got broken that was going to cost that much money. The camera did get knocked off on the gimbal and I pressed it back on. One of the bottom sensors is shattered on the glass. I wonder if it would be worth the shipping cost to send it to you and see if it's something that you could tackle at a more affordable cost to me?
I have plenty of parts for that one buddy. As long as the gimbal and camera works my price wonât be anywhere close to that ridiculous price. Message me if you want to give it a shot đđ»
I stayed awake lol, good info Chris đđœđ
God bless you buddy!
Watched to the end..... very informative as always.
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I am curious to see if the mini still has overheat issues
Iâm not expecting that to be fixed and thatâs the big no no for me and electronics. Most get pretty warm but when itâs enough to burn you I canât bullshit people on that fact.
I enjoyed your video. I couldn't agree more about making spare parts available. I bought the zino mini se a week ago from amazon. It arrived with a completely discharged battery. I tried to charge it for 2 hours. no go. So i returned the drone to the amazon pick-up point the same day. I still haven't received my refund. So unfortunately I wasn't able to test that it would fly in the u.s. but I don't think amazon would sell it if it wouldn't fly here.
Yeah I think they will fly but that sucks about your purchase. The SE is decent đđ»
Hey Chris, I have the Hubsan zino mini se and the battery in the transmitter has died. Do you have a video that shows how to replace the battery? If not, do you have any advise? Thanks!
No but itâs very easy to open the controller and see. Itâs just a layer of boards that you unplug and remove to get the the battery for the most part.
Thanks, Chris, I'll give it a try.
I thought the battery was dead because when I turned the rc on, it cheeped at me and said low battery. But when I tried to charge it - nothing happened - blank screen. So I just now took it apart and checked to battery. It was at 4.15v. I put it back together and I got the same thing. Cheeping and "low battery." Is there a reset or something I have to do? Thanks again!
@@dale7431 no reset but it sounds like you have a dead short somewhere and possible bad board as a result.
Thanks Chris! It works now. I discharged the battery and when I tried recharging it, all went well. It recharged and the rc works now. Thanks for your input. I appreciate you taking the time.
Interesting video - thanks! I have a few thoughts/comments that come to mind:
- The way EXO commented that âHubsan drones wonât fly in the USâ does seem a little odd, but it sounds to me like there is a contract which requires Hubsan not to allow their drones to fly in the US. Whether Hubsan honors that, who knows. Keep in mind that contracts are confidential so EXO presumably wonât say âthis is a contractual issueâ.
- Hubsan has a bad name in the US and presumably knows it, but EXO was unknown. Iâm betting EXO decided to use the Hubsan name to be up front about where the hardware is coming from, versus try to hide it (which likely wouldnât end well). Clearly EXO hasnât got the desire (or funding) to create their own drone from scratch. So i imagine they needed a 3rd party OEM manufacturer, and in one sense itâs possible that the Hubsan name initially helps EXO even with the baggage.
- The comment about it being a pain to take legal action on a China company is only partially true today - itâs not very difficult in to get an injunction for all of a certain type of product stopped at the US border, so we shouldnât assume that EXO has no leverage on Hubsan.
- Is EXO writing the firmware for these drones, or perhaps providing firmware changes through Hubsan? Thatâs not clear to me.
- You seem to know Hubsan quite well, so you may well be right in your prediction. The only way you might be wrong is if Hubsan realized they wonât be successful in the US without a different name and proper US-driven development. Who knows.
Thanks again for an interesting video.
Hubsan does 100% of the firmware. The only thing Hubsan doesnât do is manufacture it but they donât manufacture their own either. Just minimal assembly and logisticsâŠ
EXO lied about Hubsanâs not being able to work in the USA as far as I can tell because I inspect and repair returns for a dealer and so far they all fly still.
EXO will fall to the side eventually because He (Charlie) sold it to a online company that buys e-commerce companies. They know nothing of drones and wonât move the company further unless someone steps in to make sure that happens. Smart kidâŠmake people think what they want to hear, market the hell out of it and sell when it looks like all of the USA wantâs the products?
@@QCGUY Got it - thanks again!
I've purchased the Hubsan Ace SE from Geekbuying. I've had no issues with it flying or the App in the USA. I'm not impressed with EXO. My proof is my reviews on my channel.
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QC guy is not going to get a Christmas card from Hubsan after what he said about the Exo Hubsan deal. Good video, Chris.
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I am trying to decide between Exo Mini Pro (with OA) and Exo Mini Pro (without OA). I heard that Exo Mini Pro (with OA) overheats. This could be because OA requires more power from the battery and that puts out more heat. Does this problem presist in Exo Mini Pro (without OA). If Exo Mini Pro (without OA) still has overheat issue then I would rather buy Exo Mini and sacrifice the better camera. Can you please give me some guidance on this? Thank you đ
Both get hot and more so than any other drone in its class. Itâs the processor and wifi module mostly that gets hot and the only worry I would have with either is if you are updating or transferring files without cooling the drone. In flight I have not seen any overheating issues so my overall answer is donât sacrifice just because of the high heat because the heat isnât a huge difference between the two models if thatâs the concern. My only other concern with either of these models is long term effects from the heat on the components.
If interested I have a brand new never flown exo mini pro exo sent me Iâm going to sell that I never reviewed or did anything with.
It has OA, 2 batteries with charging hub and 128gb internal storage for $650 plus shipping. I think exo is overpriced as well so thatâs a good price I think.
@@QCGUY Thank you very much for an honest answer. I am also concerned about long term heat and its effect on electronic components. From what you are telling me, it seems like Exo Mini is better out of three because it has a miniSD card and therefore no need for wifi or cable transfer. That should minimize heat exposure, I think... I appreciate the offer on Exo Mini Pro with OA..that is a good price for sure.
Good info., Chris. (1) will you be actually posting reviews of these drones? (2) I very much am looking forward to your interview with Charlie. My sense is that like Dobo you won't pull any punches.
Iâll be direct and wonât sugarcoat if I smell bullshit but wonât be purposely trying to make him choke or feel uncomfortable.
I will be reviewing these both yes đđ»
I have the Hubzin Zino Pro. I purchased it 4 years ago and have never flown it. It's still in the box Which app do I use in order to fly it?
Will EXO Honor firmware up dates, app use, updates, or repairs...?? I am concerned that I am not able to use it... AM I STUCK WITH A DEAD ITEM?
Use the xhubsan app. Exo has nothing to do with the updates. If it works and doesnât force you then donât update it. Enjoy it and if you break it Iâm here. đđ»
Is thie Zino Pro worth Keeping?? According to the company change??
@@UNION336 There is no company change. If it works itâs worth keeping. Hubsan is not Exo and Exo can fall off the face of the earth anytime at the rate they are going.
You own a Hubsan so forget the name Exo.
Hi do you know what gimbal error code 0x1000 means?? Didnât crash!! I started drone to make video and gimbal was dead is out of level a little camera working but I canât move it up or down. Thanks
Which drone is it? Most of these codes lead to a bad gimbal motor cable. 0x1000 can sometimes be a bad board but the way you explained it sounds like it's the cable.
EXO Blackhawk
@@lukasled Yeah if it's the original blackhawk I think it's safe to say it is the gimbal flex cable. I do a lot of those and have to keep that cable stocked.
So you can fix it for me?? Or itâs easy enough to fix it myself??
Thanks
@@lukasled Yes, I fix them regularly. Itâs not hard for me to do because Iâve done so many now but as a first timer itâs easier to do more damage depending on your abilities.
The reasons I bought my EXO Patriot drone is 1) It didn't come from China; 2) It doesn't restrict my flying; 3) It was relatively inexpensive; 4) The company looked reputable. The reason I won't buy DJI is it's from China and I resent geofencing. I don't appreciate companies controlling my products.
@QC GUY What about the FAA requiring Remote ID in two months? What's the plan at EXO for that?
I honestly think they are still figuring that out and Iâm sure it has them busy. Itâs on my list if Charlie excepts my invite to livestream with me.
Hey Chris what if you already own a hubsan drone does mean that they will brick them to make you buy a exo drone or will you able to continue to fly your drone before this all happen.
I fly different Hubsan drones every week after repairing them. They havenât and wonât do that. Maybe with new ones yes but again I think thatâs just stupid. It looks a little too controlling and isnât a good way to go forcing your brand like that.
@@QCGUY I agree so would everyone that own a hubsan drone be able to use the exo app for their drone.
@@jeromerobinson7064 đ€·ââïž I donât know but I know with the Exo version of the Zino Pro I could leave the Exo app and use the Hubsan app.
@@QCGUYOK because at one time I was looking at Gorilla man channel and the exo app work with hubsan drones when I tried and now it dont.
@@jeromerobinson7064 before they took control here is when I think that was possible both ways. All the firmware versions were the same.
You forgot to mention that not so long ago the U.S. Military was paying $5000 apiece for these same drones.
Oh yeah thereâs that too. lol
Good content - I knew nothing of Exo, now I'm an expert. I hope it works out well for them and would like to see what you think of their stuff after a few flights. I agree on the gold comment, it's kind of tacky. Maybe they should just put the Hubsan name in gold - that would be fitting đThe blackhawk pro 2 actually looks interesting.
They just sold the company so it will be history soon enough. lol
I agree, I hear decent stuff about the BH2. BUT The price is what would stop me from buying this drone. Esp for someone that needs it for business reasons. The specs are there on paper but the final product isnât as good as the Air2s or M3p⊠but hey thatâs just my opinion from what Iâve seen on CZcams. Iâ curious to see your review on how itâs performance.
Hey adleast you are a pro on knowing these inside out and able to work on them đđ»
Fixed several mini prosâs before they became a Exo drone thatâs for sure.
Hey I stuck around for the whole replay does that count. Anyway another great review great info is always Chris thanks
It definitely counts and is appreciatedâŠthanks
@@QCGUY You're welcome Chris
I was interested in their new drones but price is way too close to DJI mini3 and mavic air 2 drones. I rather spend the extra $50-100 to go with DJI. I think the price is too high. Mini pro is $799 plus 80 for obstacles avoidance without the discount. Thatâs $880 lol. Oh and no external storage. I wish it was cheaper in price
@@gimpman1357 and all the other accessories we all end up buying goes into that as well. đđ»
@@gimpman1357 I did in the video and also made clear points on the fact that thereâs a market for many drones outside of DJI ownership. All covered but I guess you skipped that part. lol
Good chat Chris. When can we see a flight review?
Thanks, Hopefully about 3 days đđ»
So can we fly hubsan drone in the US?
Exo still says you canât with the zino mini pro or the ace pro but I work on new ones that are returned to a us dealer for different reasons and so far they all fly. Also, Hubsan drones can use the exo app and exo drones can use the hubsan app so thereâs no difference in serverâs either apparently. Exo has been exaggerating the truth a little in my opinion.
@@QCGUY Thank you for the information.
Great info Chris, thank you for the information on EXO Drones, I am looking forward to seeing Charley on your video, keep up the good workđđœ
Thanks Adam âïž
Hi Chris, Iâm trying to contact you on âTelegram messagingâ, how can I contact you
@@adamwatson3029 What do you need?
You sent me this message. âThanks for watching and commenting,You won đ (2 DJI MINI 3 PRO )Inbox the above name to reedem your prize. congratulations đâšđđâ
@@adamwatson3029 CZcams is filled with these fake scammer accounts. I see them on everyoneâs channels with the same messages. Sorry I try to delete and block them quickly but sometimes I canât get them fast enough.
Is that message not deleted?
I HAVE HAD A HUBSAN h501s-S AND THEY WERE GREAT AND VERY GOOD CAMERA AND QUALITY AND GOOD FLYING MACHINE FOR SURE
I had a 501 for several years. It was an indestructible drone. With no 3 axis gimbal it was shaky but a great learner drone.
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Thank you chirs for the great information and introduction to the new old drone. Lol
New old drone is hitting the nail on the head there Gene. đ
@@QCGUY that is good how is the price on them
@@genefoxgreenmountaindroning I gave the prices. They are up there in the DJI range.
@@QCGUY sorry I must missed it I watched and listened to the video after work and dosed off during it than my grandson came .lol old age catching up to me
@@genefoxgreenmountaindroning no worries đ
I see their ad on fb a million time a day
They are hitting the advertising and promoting pretty strong thatâs for sure.
Hey Chris great review.. But these are not "Copies" of Hubsan... They are rebranded Hubsan Drones with hopefully better customer service... Time will tell!!!
UMMM I think thatâs how I explained it even if I used the word copy. lol
I think I made it very clear what this deal is. Thanks
@@QCGUY sorry Chris just got through the whole 30 mins and the last 2 minutes showed some Balls concidering you were sent the Drones. Yes Hubsan will SâŹit on EXO from a great hight once they have outlived their usefulness. We have had our differences in the past but absolute respect for your honesty on what lies ahead for EXO... And what a shame they are so gullable to trust a Chinese company were trading practices are pretty much non existant.
Stay safe pal đđđ
@@dronecity1699 Funny how just being honest on CZcams saying what most think makes means I have balls. đ
Iâm just not a product hungry whore like other channels aiming to please on their knees for the free stuff.
Thanks again âïž
I hope EXO Drone rebrands a Hubsan X4 H501SS. They can call it the Blackhawk Down 501s Pro and sell it for $499.99. Be worth it just for the black color.
They already came in black đ
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The question is going to be will Hubsan still be Hubsan? Or will it be a new and improved combo that doesn't suffer the Hubsan reputation? My hope is we'll see a better drone & better customer service. When I heard pricing, and being aware drones have gone up in general, I think it a bit much for what traditionally was a budget lineup of drones. I"d have to think long and hard to lay the money down when I can buy an Autel or DJI Air 2S for little more than their prices.
If I were a average consumer I would fork over the extra đ° as long as they back the product, support me and supply parts. Take my money all day long for that!
Autel lost my businessâŠ.
It does seem to be true Marcus got a Hubsan to test and he actually had to get in touch with Hubsan for them to authorised the drone to be flown in Idaho. And dobo had The owner of EXO on and they did a good explanation of it and no they donât sell outside the US at the moment but they are intending working on that
I know a handful of others with new miniâs and the Ace that havenât had to do that but itâs just stupid if so. Honestly I wouldnât be surprised if Marcus was told to say that. Heâs a company guy and does as told.
@@QCGUY yeah flight should be possible (tourists, etc..) but perhaps they can restrict activation somehow. Agree though it could be narrative that is spread to keep up that geographic limitation storey.
@@mmbodnar I gave up dealing with Aliexpress and banggood as a affiliate but Iâm very tempted to try and get them to send me one for review. lol
Amazon is still selling the zino mini proâŠ
@@QCGUY I wonder if the Exo app would work with the Zino Mini / Ace..
@@mmbodnar I donât think so anymore but they use to be able to work back and forth. Iâll play with the apps versus drones soon.
hi i got my zino mini pro dwe 2022 latest firmwere update every thing works great except i have lost x6 zoom its only x3 now but it records the zoom on the video it never used to when it was x6 so bonus of sorts lol happy humbug
They are still figuring and adjusting to limitations I guess đđ»
morning chris
Evening buddy!
LOL I DONT HAVE A GREAT ATTENTION SPAN BUT I STILL ENJOY WATCHING TILL THE END
Your next video: Who is OpenStore?
I almost did something today but then was likeâŠnope! đ
Hubsan and cost more
Brilliant observation and coveredâŠ
i tried to get them to send me one to review and compare against my zino mini pro but my channel isn't big enough for them i guess and i would tell it like it is,just another hubsan drone.
If you have decent honest content I think these drone companies need to send them to more of the small channels.
Many channels become tainted as they grow and get more products.
@@QCGUY very true,i have 1.45k subs and growing consistently but it takes time
Thanks again for sweating the details!!!
Why do I feel targeted by the "devastation of a wreck"? Comment Lol
Donât blame me blame your conscience! đ
Just rebranded and more expensive hubsan drones..
Did you come up with that all by yourself? đ
I won't support a company like Exo, supporting Exo won't lead to a single innovation in drones. They're a brand born out of rebranding. I'll stick with DJI and Autel.
Itâs simply not for you then. I get it đđ»