My bike arrives tomorrow from Luna Cycle. All of these positive reviews helped me with my decision. Plus my friend has one which I was able to ride and when I did I was very impressed with the feel of it. I
Thanks for another solid, informative review. I´ll probably end up buying one of these bikes. The wife and I are also looking at the Phat Scooters for use around the campground. Rock On
Good job Planning on buying one Thanks for the heads! Also thanks for being a guinea pig for us knew her buyers. Now that all the bugs are worked out I will get a nice machine.
Being 6'4 ergonomics and right-sizing a bike are a constant for me. I ride offroad motorcycle and MTB regularly and I am always maxing seat post height, adding tall seats, using bar risers. Watching another video of a gentleman riding the Sur Ron he looked shorter than me (maybe 5'10 -6') and cramped on this bike. The pegs seem a bit far back and the rider was on the very back of the saddle. I am a standup rider so the seated position would only be an issue for transfer sections but it could be a deal breaker if I couldn't get comfortable to ride technical terrain on this thing. like you would a trials or enduro bike. - How tall are you and what is your take on the ergos for your height and any cockpit altering options that Luna can offer? - Do the cables on the bars have enough extra length to add a 1" bar riser? - Any alternate seat options? - Do you feel it would be durable enough to do light trials type and creek/log hopping cross training type activities? I love this concept and the price is reasonable if the bike is durable and can adjust in ergos. Thanks in advance for any input!
I'm 5ft9 and its tight but comfy. Plenty of room for riser bars on the cables. No seat options yet. It can totally do light trials, especially with a bigger rear sprocket and 17" rear wheel. Like any entry level bike, suspension upgrades would help.
Great video. I'm really interested in this bike, but I live in California so there aren't many legal places to ride it. All of your videos are very informative; especially these Sur Ron Light Bee MX as there isn't much else available in video format. Thanks
I can ride it any where. I think it's a great way to go. My buddy put trials tire on rear of 250 ktm 2 stroke. He said to much traction sliding down hills having make tight turn. Claims it would stop in middle of slide.
How do you feel about the actual size of the bike? Coming from mountain biking, it seems a bit small for a taller rider (6'+). Too much knee bend, etc.
John thank you for your videos and commentary. I personally find your work informative. I have purchased one from Luna Cycle and it's scheduled to start delivery this week. I'm a former motocross/desert racer who then transitioned to on road racing. But alas I'm too old to do that now so this little bike will be perfect for my current riding addiction. I know I won't be able to ride this at any off-road park due to no registration so I plan to ride fire roads here in the Bay Area. If I have questions after delivery is it fine to contact you? Thanks again.
Hi. Can you please make a video of the differences between previous stock controller and the new sine wave controller? Noise differences, performance and functions. People in forums say its supposed to have Regen braking but even though I ordered mine with sine wave, I don't have that function. In addition a thorough difference between the older and newer models. Thank you so much
What’s the pedal kit like ? And if so what’s the perfect sprocket for it because I’m seen people pedal them and they can’t pedal as it’s to easy to pedal for gear ratio
Him how do you remove the brake sensor? I wanna remove my left one so I can use the rear brakes for wheelies. But I just wanna make sure I get the right answer from someone who is expert and not just me going and fiddling with cables.
the brake sensor wire has a barrel nut over the end at the lever, 8mm I think. Just unscrew that and it comes out of the lever. The plug for it is located behind the key switch. Remove the keyswitch body from the frame and it pulls out, unplug the sensor wire, and re-install the body on the frame.
Yes, lithium batteries have a shelf life. I would estimate 3 to 5 years before this one starts a noticeable drop in top speed. The bike doesn't really ask much from it in stock gearing and controller form.
Lee Johnson Thanks, I just ask becaus here in Spain you can ride a regular bike (bicycle) on the sidewalk of you dont disturb anybody, as the same for skate and scooters, but if this is considerd as a MotorBike and not a Bicycle I rather buy an MT 07 or other Gasoline Bike.
The speed is 45mph limited by voltage and motor speed. A different controller with phase or timing advancement could get more rpm from the motor at expense to efficiency. Sur Ron is said to be releasing a controller capable of this.
Yay! more holmes videos to the people!! no matter what you post it´s always good to watch!
Thanks :)
I don't think you thought these videos would have been as popular as they have been 😊😀 eh John 👍👍
My bike arrives tomorrow from Luna Cycle. All of these positive reviews helped me with my decision. Plus my friend has one which I was able to ride and when I did I was very impressed with the feel of it. I
Thanks for another solid, informative review.
I´ll probably end up buying one of these bikes.
The wife and I are also looking at the Phat Scooters for use around the campground.
Rock On
Good job Planning on buying one Thanks for the heads! Also thanks for being a guinea pig for us knew her buyers. Now that all the bugs are worked out I will get a nice machine.
Being 6'4 ergonomics and right-sizing a bike are a constant for me. I ride offroad motorcycle and MTB regularly and I am always maxing seat post height, adding tall seats, using bar risers. Watching another video of a gentleman riding the Sur Ron he looked shorter than me (maybe 5'10 -6') and cramped on this bike. The pegs seem a bit far back and the rider was on the very back of the saddle. I am a standup rider so the seated position would only be an issue for transfer sections but it could be a deal breaker if I couldn't get comfortable to ride technical terrain on this thing. like you would a trials or enduro bike.
- How tall are you and what is your take on the ergos for your height and any cockpit altering options that Luna can offer?
- Do the cables on the bars have enough extra length to add a 1" bar riser?
- Any alternate seat options?
- Do you feel it would be durable enough to do light trials type and creek/log hopping cross training type activities?
I love this concept and the price is reasonable if the bike is durable and can adjust in ergos. Thanks in advance for any input!
I'm 5ft9 and its tight but comfy. Plenty of room for riser bars on the cables. No seat options yet. It can totally do light trials, especially with a bigger rear sprocket and 17" rear wheel. Like any entry level bike, suspension upgrades would help.
Great video. I'm really interested in this bike, but I live in California so there aren't many legal places to ride it. All of your videos are very informative; especially these Sur Ron Light Bee MX as there isn't much else available in video format. Thanks
There aren't a lot of states with laws like Missouri. I'm glad to be here, I have quite a few 50cc and equivalent bikes.
HolmesHobbies I'm jealous, I wish we had your laws here to California. What exactly are the restrictions in Missouri?
30mph, 3hp. Perfect for EP mode.
HolmesHobbies cool
I can ride it any where. I think it's a great way to go. My buddy put trials tire on rear of 250 ktm 2 stroke. He said to much traction sliding down hills having make tight turn. Claims it would stop in middle of slide.
Luna cycles is an exclusive dealer in North America for these sur ron bikes. Exclusive meaning they are they only ones aloud
Good, thorough video. Thanks.
Thank you sir!
How do you feel about the actual size of the bike? Coming from mountain biking, it seems a bit small for a taller rider (6'+). Too much knee bend, etc.
Wow how much the quality has changed since the first videos
Thanks for the feedback! We are trying to learn the video side too. Might as well put effort into something if we are doing it, right?
Definitely
I don't know why they don't market it as a trials bike. Seems like a great one.
John thank you for your videos and commentary. I personally find your work informative. I have purchased one from Luna Cycle and it's scheduled to start delivery this week. I'm a former motocross/desert racer who then transitioned to on road racing. But alas I'm too old to do that now so this little bike will be perfect for my current riding addiction. I know I won't be able to ride this at any off-road park due to no registration so I plan to ride fire roads here in the Bay Area. If I have questions after delivery is it fine to contact you? Thanks again.
Post up any questions on youtube and I'll do my best to answer!
Congrats on the purchase, you should have a lot of fun!
Hi. Can you please make a video of the differences between previous stock controller and the new sine wave controller? Noise differences, performance and functions. People in forums say its supposed to have Regen braking but even though I ordered mine with sine wave, I don't have that function. In addition a thorough difference between the older and newer models. Thank you so much
Thanks for some great reviews! The bike weight is 50kg, is it without the battery? So it is 50kg + battery?
how tall should one be to ride it? would it fit a 5'3 guy?
What’s the pedal kit like ? And if so what’s the perfect sprocket for it because I’m seen people pedal them and they can’t pedal as it’s to easy to pedal for gear ratio
@holmeshobbies PLEASE do the bobber mod
oh yeah, all in due time. I have a lot of projects on the burners right now.
Hi John, have you had any luck developing a better saddle for the Sur Ron? Thank you.
Man, I really want one but it's way too expensive for me. :(
I buy one last week I am still waiting to get here. How long to get here.
Are there different types? Or are there just a bunch of names for it? How do I order one I live in Asia. Many thanks
I'm interested in buying one of these. Are your a distributor yet? I didn't see them on your website.
When does the *review* start?
Very cool,
Him how do you remove the brake sensor? I wanna remove my left one so I can use the rear brakes for wheelies. But I just wanna make sure I get the right answer from someone who is expert and not just me going and fiddling with cables.
the brake sensor wire has a barrel nut over the end at the lever, 8mm I think. Just unscrew that and it comes out of the lever. The plug for it is located behind the key switch. Remove the keyswitch body from the frame and it pulls out, unplug the sensor wire, and re-install the body on the frame.
HolmesHobbies thank you so much!
can you make a video on magura brakes upgrade?
Does the battery go bad over time?
Yes, lithium batteries have a shelf life. I would estimate 3 to 5 years before this one starts a noticeable drop in top speed. The bike doesn't really ask much from it in stock gearing and controller form.
Niiice, Just have one question, can you ride where pedestrians walk or just on the road, like a bicycle??
This is practically a motorcycle. Not a pedestrian vehicle.
HolmesHobbies So you can't ride it like a bicycle I mean on the sidewalk ?
But thanks for answering, good video.
Nate it's usually illegal to ride even a regular bike on a sidewalk. The rare exception would be if the street is too narrow to accommodate a bike.
Lee Johnson Thanks, I just ask becaus here in Spain you can ride a regular bike (bicycle) on the sidewalk of you dont disturb anybody, as the same for skate and scooters, but if this is considerd as a MotorBike and not a Bicycle I rather buy an MT 07 or other Gasoline Bike.
Guys is the sur ron bee available in Mumbai ,India
does this have regenerative charging ?
How large is the battery?
On lowering the seat. How much clearance is there between the top of the bottomed out stock tire and the underside of the rear fender?
4 inches
Thank you.
Just realized that is measured with the 17" tire on it, the stock 19' tire is about 2.5" clearance when the rear is bottomed out.
hi bro, whats your weight and drive distance per charge? I have 100kg is still ok?
Yes but get bulky tires
serial numbered from factory ?
Where can I buy it?
When do you figure you will be able to start distributing these bikes
Luna is being kinda slow setting it up, but they have a fresh shipment coming in soon and maybe that will get them motivated.
How quick can you make it go? Any way to remove the 45 km/h limitation?
Gabriel Lundmark it's actually 45mph not kmh
The speed is 45mph limited by voltage and motor speed. A different controller with phase or timing advancement could get more rpm from the motor at expense to efficiency. Sur Ron is said to be releasing a controller capable of this.
45 mph svarer til 72 km/t
Is legal on street??
Hey do you need a licence to ride this bike ??
In my state, operators license is required but not motorcycle designation. I do have a motorcycle license too.
You never buy the first year on any thing. 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
I don't regret it at all, waiting another year would have been a lot of fun and utility missed.
Not the nipples
LMX is better........
At double the price, I would hope it is. But I wonder if the motor will take 30kw without overheating like the Sur Ron stock motor?