Ivan Savvidis: The Football Owner That Went Viral
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When we look back at the images that defined 2018, there's plenty to choose from. But there was one, so breathtaking in its audacity, that it rightfully went viral; Ivan Savvidis, wearing a gun.
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#superleaguegreece #paok #savvidis - Sport
Never thought you'd make a Savvidis/Greek football vid! Once again you hit it out of the park!!
Well Savvidis is kind like Berlusconi. I mean, Mafia-like people. They abuse their power (money) without ethical boundaries or caring about others in the least and Tifo, thankfully, always shows them as they are.
Also @Tifo Football, perhaps you could also do about Melissanidis, president of A.E.K., which they won the League last season...and he is also the owner of OPAP [Revenue: EUR 1,455 billion (2017)]. The Greek betting overlords.
I'm saying this while being a fan of A.E.K. since i was a kid. To me it's heartbreaking watching all these greedy and corrupt people running things in Greece (in politics too). I had stopped watching Greek football years now, same with politics. A civilization in decline!
ahahahahahahha savvidis is kind like Berlusconi ahahahahhahahahahahaha you must be living on a different planet my friend you have no idea ahahahahahahahahahaa
@@Numenor76 ο μελισανιδης όμως μας φτιάχνει γήπεδο
@@Numenor76 You completely clueless, Savvidis could totally destroy a puny poltician, your bullshit logic of your stupid ass racist mind equating Italians with mafia doesn't work here, it's your stupidity. Savvidis is real mafia owner, Berlusconi is just a dumb corrupt politician.
Mafia men
Interesting, now I wish football was used to teach history and politics in school
football school ? yes , but not goverment or general school .
wow, history, politics and football in the same video. tifo sets the bar very, very high for other sporting channels on youtube👏 road to 500k :)
History and politics often play a big part in the beautiful game. Clubs are formed because of political and social differences. Celtic and Rangers in Glasgow, Hibernian and Hearts in Edinburgh, every club in Northern Ireland and those are just the sectarian divides.
I'm so tired of football corruption in my country.I've been a Panathinaikos fan for all my life ,but I've stopped following the Greek Superleague in recent years not because we don't compete for the league title anymore but due to corruption and scandals like this one.This has happened to countless Greek football fans in recent years who ,like myself, prefer to watch other European competitions like the EPL.This problem needs to be solved ,as it brings the country on the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.Anyway, congrats on another great video keep up the good work.
Kostas Roussos I hope the corruption makes all the eurosnob soccer teams comes crashing down.
@@cariopuppetmaster what do you mean
Μπράβο πρόβατο. Επειδή υπάρχει διαφθορά στο πρωτάθλημα δεν είστε ανταγωνιστικοί σαν Παναθηναϊκός. Όχι επειδή είστε τα πουτανάκια του Αλαφούζου και παλιότερα του Πατέρα και του Βγενόπουλου. Επειδή υπάρχει διαφθορά έχετε ένα χρέος άνω των 50 εκατομμυρίων.
Μαλλον ψηλε μου δεν καταλαβες τι εννοουσα.Κανε μια γρηγορη επαναληψη τα αγγλικα σου και μιλαμε :)
@@kostasroussos1706 Σόρρυ τρελέ δεν είδα το "not" εκεί που λες ότι σταμάτησες να ακολουθείς την ομάδα *όχι* επειδή δεν πάει για πρωτάθλημα.
Great video!As a greek I can say that you are exactly right in yoyr analysis!Unfortunately many people in my country fail to see the rotten nature and corruption especially when it comes to their own teams.The AEK boss is also a known criminal quality and a mafia like figure also.
Man who isn't , everybody who is successful in Balkans is some kind of criminal
@@nemanjap8768 That is unfortunately right.Oligarchy nepotism and clientelism are still reigning supreme in our part of the world :(
broken king y
criminal quality και mafia figure επειδη πιασανε εναν απο τους δεκαδες εφοπλιστες που εκλεβε πετρελαια.χαχαχα ποσος ανοητος.
football business is hardly ever profitable if played clear on the side of law.
Ηi i am Greek, AEK fan. Amazingly accurate research about a topic where verifiable intel is hard to find. Great job.
Τι αεκ ρε μαλακα μόνο paok
LOL
What a video guys, propably the best you have made. So much careful and accurate statements you made about football, business and politics issues. Keep up this amazing work.
From a greek guy
this video was very well written in all of its aspects
i was especially surprised with how right you got the politics and the history in this video while many other foreigners (not Greeks) usually get things mixed up
-Props 👏👏👏
As a Forest fan, could we get another video going into more detail about Marinakis? I really don't trust the guy, and that's saying something considering we had Al Hasawi as a previous owner.
You shouldn t worry he controls a lot of greek politicians so nothing illegal will be proven ;)
Dont worry. When it comes to football, the shadier the owner, the stronger the club becomes.. (See Berlusconi/Milan.. Avramovic/ Chelsea)
Olympiacos fan here saluting my Nott Forest brothers in ownership, lmao.
@@ComradeHellas καλά και σύντροφος και Ολυμπιακός τι δουλειά έχεις με τους Χρυσαυγήτες
@@megathrash8539 ποιους ΧΑγιτες
I think it's one of the most accurate videos i have ever seen about Greece. Amazing job!!
Coming from a Thessaloniki resident, your video is highly accurate, and rare in that it states the fact without overbearing judgment.
this video is EXCELLENT! So much content, i'm so glad i found it!
Props to you for the video..(from one of the few paok ultras that frequently watch your content)
Gongrats for the cover of these events. Usually when ppl from other countries do a report on such incidents they tend to be a bit disinformed or doing a bit of a sluppy job but you had your facts really straight. Cheers from Athens, Greece. P.S Panathinaikos and Liverpool Fan.
I couldn’t have imagined a channel other than yours uploading a video researched that well, considering also that it’s about Greek football and not many people care about it.
Amazing work, thank you so much!
A great depiction of the current greek situation. Non-biased, well researched, and well presented. 10/10 keep up the top notch work!
Very very well explained dude. You covered every topic and side completely. Good job!
I mean I'm Greek and even a Greek couldn't have said the story better! What a great video! Keep up the good work!
This was the video that got me hooked and respected Tifo :)
Nice research and so much information. I personally learn a lot of such good quality video.
Love this channel! Great work man
Great video and very informative as usual. This and the shaktar/Manafort video are my favourites
Thanks for uploading.
Amazing! Please do a pease on Romanian Politician/ Football Chairman George “gigi” Bocaly. The research alone will make it worth it.
This is a good idea. I've actually interviewed him....
One step ahead already 😉
Keep up the great work 👍🏻
He does as he pleases at the club.. Including interfering with the coach...he sometimes says that the club is his toy and he does whatever he wants with it.. On the other hand...his transfer business is outstanding and he disrupts rivals by buying the best players from them
Gigi Becali*
Quality wise one of your best videos yet
Great video! Keep up the good work 👍
Well this was one amazing video. Is the first that I watch from you and if all the other videos are like this one I think I can learn many things from you.
Great video excellent work once and a nice theme Ivan is our savior
Oh man! I'm from Greece and I can't believe how exact were the facts in this video. You have done your research so good! Congratulations!
As a Greek living abroad I would also be interested in videos about Mr. Marinakis of Olympiakos, Melisanidis of AEK Athens and most of all, I would be highly interested on a video about Panathinaikos team, the board/owners situation the last 10 years.
Keep up the good work guys.
Great and very detailed video, i just want to point out that majority of Greece's population (especially Northern Greece) dont agree on the name given to "FYROM" and that can be seen in the numberous public protests (especially the one in Thessaloniki). You should also cover more owners like Melissanidis, the owner of AEK, who also controls many shares in OPAP, Greece's biggest gambling company which got completely private in 2013.
Unfortunately in Greece, i doubt if even one owner is completely clean and not controlled by political parties or outsiders. Greece has always been a puppet to East and West, and sadly this got into football as well.
Everything on point.Well done.
I like so much this face drawings ! They are so accurate !
You covered a lot of ground here in only a little over 9 minutes while keeping your discussion coherent. I'm particularly impressed by this video!
Wow, we need more videos about Greek Super League! Tifo thank you from an Olympiacos fan
Excellent work.
I am suprised of how accurate and informed you are,better than any Greek journalist.
Great vid as usual
Pretty good report. You got spot on! You really did some research, good job
Well explained! 👌🏽
Nailed it bro. Life of the rich and famous. There's always the how did they get that rich part. One thing he will do for city is he will build a new stadium 36-38k for PAOK. The initial designs were really nice.
We need a more man like this in Turkey and football industry 👍🏼
Hello Tifo, I have a video suggestion, maybe we could get an analysis of Frankfurt's 4:1 win over Lazio? To me a surprisingly good performance by Frankfurt, it really made me want to know more about them
Mike Ashley still makes him look good😝 great vid as always
You made an amazing research ! However you should have mentioned that PAOK has won for two consecutive years the national cup !
Actually Savvidis first appeared in the Greek scene about 2009-2010 and was welcomed by "New Democracy" party deputies and members from Thessaloniki. He was frustrated by ND, when its current leader (Kyriakos Mitsotakis) was elected. Mitsotakis' family has close relationships with Marinakis. Dora Bakogianni, sister of Kyriakos Mitsotakis and also a deputy (and former minister a lot of times), had Marinakis as a best man on her wedding and she is the godmother of Marinakis' son. So it was either Marinakis, either Savvidis. During a public tender for TV licenses (under the current left government), both Marinakis and Savvidis were bidders. Marinakis won one of the licenses, Savvidis didn't. During this period, there was an effort by the current government to bring Savvidis as a supporter/donor and Savvidis wasn't excluding such a possibility (on condition to get what he wanted for his businesses). The deal went sour however, especially after the agreement between Tsipras and Zaev which Savvidis strongly opposes.
2006
never thought I'd see a video about my club PAOK on tifo youtube.
Δεν είδες για τον παοκ, για τον Σαββίδη είδες. Αυτό είναι το θέμα, ότι οι ομάδες έχουν γίνει άνθρωπο κεντρικές. Κανένας δεν είναι πάνω απ την ομάδα ότι ομάδα και αν εισαι
Something new again.
I wonder how their list of new videos looks like.
2:53 I know I'm a bit late but I must ask why the choice to draw that particular weapon, the Tavor 21 (TAR-21, an Israeli assault rifle developed in the late 1990s, rather than a Kalashnikov rifle. Just generally curious. Good video as always!
pls make one about marinakis too.
ivan savvidis was at the same neigboorhood with my grandfather.they played football together. and as my grandpa said he liked guns
Great video, I like your detached style, it allows viewers to form their own conclusions.
As a Greek football fan, I had stopped watching many years back, as I felt disgusted by the situation you describe. One or two owners would use popular teams as just a tool for advancing a broader, not-football-related, agenda. As expected, their teams would dominate, as success is a requirement if you want to keep Greek fans backing you up for any significant amount of time.
I recently tried to start watching Greek football again, and found out that we now have THREE of these guys. The two main results of this are (i) all other teams are either completely dependent on one of them (getting players on a loan deal cheaply and allegedly money under the table to throw the matches versus one of the three teams and play really hard against the other two) or getting the really really short end of the stick when it comes to fairness (e.g. attitude of referees) and (ii) when two of the three play against each other, it might get really, really ugly; a recent Greek cup final took place while fans of AEK and PAOK stabbed each other WITHIN THE STADIUM PREMISES.
I know it will not save the world or anything, but I would be thankful if you did more videos about Greek football, to spread outside of Greece what everybody in Greece more or less knows. Possible examples would be videos about Marinakis and/or Melissanidis, digging deeper into Savvidis, digging deeper into the recent match-fixing case etc. Disclaimer: I have only watched this video of yours, if scandals are not one of your main focuses, ignore my request and thanks for the video in any case.
Savvidis the best 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
You could start a South American owners video series with Mauricio Macri: business man, current president of Argentina, once president of Boca Juniors
Nice video, but I would like to add some facts regarding the PAOK vs aek match back in March.
>2 matchdays before, Olympiakos managed to get 3 points from Toumpa, while getting PAOK penalized with the deduction of 3 points, with a ludicrous attempt to act like their manager was injured, before the match would start.
>First of all, PAOK scored a 90th-minute goal, which would put him in pole position for the title.
>The referee points to the kick-off spot, while the assistant runs toward the center of the pitch.
>aek's players and staff cornered the referee and his assistants.
>Referee then shows offside.
>Only he knows what they told him and made him change his mind.
>Ivan Savvidis, after Olympiakos and now this, furiously invades the pitch and calls the team off of it.
>PAOK's captain sais NO.
>Shit gets real.
>In the heat of the moment Savvidis takes off his jacket, and one photographer captures a picture of him with the gun.
>fast forward to when the referee calls the teams to get on the pitch to play the remaining 5 minutes.
>aek would be ok if the score was 0-0, but if the score is 1-0 then they're terrified and won't come out.
>referee says would announce score on the pitch. aek disagrees, and the match ends.
>Kone (aek player) says that they cannot play 5 minutes after they've been at the dressing rooms for an hour. No mention of gun.
Thank you
Ο ΠΑΟΚ είχε δίκιο μέχρι τη στιγμή που μπήκαν στο γήπεδο. Μετά την εισβολή θα ήταν σκάνδαλο να συνεχιστεί το παιχνίδι, με σκορ 1-0.
Κι ο Παναθηναϊκός είχε αδικηθεί σε ένα παιχνίδι με τον ΠΑΟΚ και σε ένα μάλλον στημένο σκηνικό από το βόδι με φωτοβολίδα ευθείας βολής σε ΠΑΟ-Ολυμπιακός.
Euxaristo ! This was unbelievably told !
Can you do Zenit St Petersburg, Monaco and even look at Billericay if possible 👍🏻
Soccer truly transcends sport. This does cause complications.
I heard Ivan Savvidis was in the Caribbean once and was mistaken for the Puerto Rican salsa and bolero singer Paquito Guzman several times😂
This video proves that once again football and politics should never mix
well done tifo
Please do 50s Wolves, Real Madrid, Spartak and Honved and the invention of European Football
Very good video and accurate. Thank you. By the way Greek football is still dirty as well savvidis team.
If you love this channel go to the community page and read what’s there
A Russian oligarch complaining about corruption is like a surgeon complaining about blood.
This dude's name just made me realise that Ivan Gazidis is probably of Greek descent, especially since he grew up in South Africa
King Ozzymandias he is his fathers name is Kosta lol
Gazidis was Greek ancestry I can verify
please do a video on Mauritian football. Its history is a crazy history of religion- based football
Needless to add that the referee had a fair cause to disallow the goal, as one of the PAOK players who was offside was in front of the ball and blocking the keeper view
Could you make a video about Melissanidis?
Ivan Savvidis is the greatest thing that came for PAOK . He paid PAOK's dept to the Greek Goverment , spend big bucks to bring the top of the noch players(at least for greek standarts) and generally he is a positive figure .
Hahahhaa
Konstantinos Iosif Τι χαχα, ρε χάχα; Έτσι είναι.
@@Yiannis2112 δεν ηξερα οτι οι θετικες φιγουρες κουβαλαγανε οπλα στο γηπεδο
Rokos Kalogerakos Η λέξη κλειδί είναι στο generally. Έτη φωτός καλύτερός από Μελισσανίδη, Κούγια, Μαρινάκη, Σαλιαρέλη, Κοσκωτά, Ψωμιάδη, Μπέο. Αλλά δε σας είδα να κόπτεσθε τόσο πολύ για κανένα άλλο...
@@rokoskalogerakos3018 τι βλάκας που είσαι ρε???Και τι σημαίνει αυτο ρε???επιχειρηματίας είναι πάντα κουβαλάει όπλο μαζί του.
Great video but just to know it's Skopje not Macedonia
As a greek...well said
A goal was scored, the ref and linesman showed it's perfectly legal. Then, the whole AEK staff invaded the pitch. The ref declared the goal offside and that was when Savvidis entered the pitch.
The ref checked the linesman and then showed that the goal is legal...when he saw AEK players protest, the tef aproach the linesman who according to him he said to the ref "it is offside but you can not disallowed in here" behind the linesman were the gates with paok's ultras then the ref disallowed the goal .
very good job! Keep going
One of the best sporting channels in youtube
As a greek i have to say that you made a very good video to explain the football situation that it's taking place to our country and about the part that you are talking about macedonia i have to say that the greek citizens that manifesting over the name are parts of far-right politics groups or very religious. The majority of greek citizens stays passive about the change of the name or we accept it as a very good diplomacy move from two neighbours countrys
no, only lefties and cuckholds support tsipras and this stupid choice.
That's the point, Dimitris. Why should anyone care which country can claim ancient Macedonia's history when neither of them has anything to do with it? And even if they did, what's the difference? Don't you see that you're manipulated to hate Tsipras and the Macedonians over a non-issue by corrupt businessmen who just want to make a buck and further Russia's evil empire?
the fuck you talking about? this is our history.Macedonians were a Greek tribe.Ancient Macedoninas are the predecessors of Greeks and history is important.
They are not Macedonians,they are Slavs.They have nothing to do with the ancient Macedonians.
And what are you going to do about it? Call on the "ultras" to protest? Give me a break.
I am a paok fan
Great video...im a paoksis
Ivan Savvidis leader and very good person!
(At first sorry for my bad English.)You have it wrong my friend!! When the match PAOK-OLYMPIACOS was about to start one fan of PAOK threw a very have item in the face of the coach of Olympiacos, then PAOK lost 3 points and another punishment was 3 matches without fans .Olympiacos win 0-3 as the match didn't start. The day that PAOK and AEK were playing the court of Justice at 3:00 a.m. decided to give PAOK his 3 points back. The problem was that this day was the match PAOK-AEK. The question was how in so few time they printed 27.703 tickets for this match!! The PAOK-AEK match started but it didn't end , while PAOK scored a goal at 89' but the referee said that it was offside and the goal was not registered then IVAN SAVVIDIS entered the pitch...
After 1 week the Goal (offside) counted and the match ended 1-0 with winner PAOK. The referee said it was scared for his life and he will not be a referee anymore ( This is why the goal counted in the match PAOK-AEK) . Finally I have to say that Greek Liga doesn't play in pitches but in the court of Justice !!!
Former panathinaikos boss vardinogiannis once said 'i could've won the title but i didn't want to bribe the officials like my rivals'
Awesome video but Alexis Tsipras is practically far away from being a left side politician. Before the elections he did actually introduce his self and party as a leftists but since he was elected he's government has followed the path of neoliberal political tactics (almost). Keep up the good work.
Σκασε
"almost" he privatized everything that could be privatized, he is literally a neo-liberal portraying himself as a left-wing populist before 2015 election.
@nik ol 🤦🤦🤦
@nik ol there is no left and right,there is only power and what you do with it.
sancho at dortmund please tifo !
We are waiting for an new report about others businessmen in Greece!
Yo another crazy thing to know
i think there's corruption everywhere where a vast ammount of money is in danger, it's juts that in Greece there is a bigger need for quick wealth, hence betting and in general corruption, I think there is a same motive in latin america as well, football is a big deal there as in Greece
Very good video and well researched. Would like to mention that current president of EPO the greek football federation is a guy that Savvidis endorsed and said "this is our guy" as his attempt to fight the previous system is building his own system of controling the federation and the refs. Savvidis essentially bought the superleague but hasn't taken it home yet. Last year they basically gave it away by hitting the olympiakos coach with a roll of paper, whatever they say about this is absolute bullshit since just the previous year it happened to their coach with an empty can of beer and they were ok with leaving and taking the match then. As an added insult the team at fault then, panathinaikos, lost points and had their fans banned for three matches, Paok punishment for the same thing? Nothing. And the legendary walk in the pitch with a gun situation. In any serious country the punishment for this would be far more severe than 3 measly points but they act like it was stolen from them. Anyway it looks like this year is going to be theirs anyway unless they royally fuck up from now on. All it took was a russian oligarch putin flunky to come and take over the greek economy media and sports and maybe change our country's politics to serve russia but hey good on them they finally (almost) did it!
One more thing should be said regarding the last season. Due to the points deduction administered by the Greek FA and following legal suits from the affected clubs, at one point, no one really knew how the Superleague table looked like. They were like three different versions of the league table at one moment with various total points for the affected clubs. Greek football mess at its finest (or worst).
This is true. You had different league tables published in different outlets!
King boss
Can you please do one on the rise of Florentino Perez.
Stop providing wrong information...Savvidis never showed his gun it was in his pocket and he has access to have a gun on him everywhere in Greece except the airport...
Tifo, Paok was the only one(except Olympiacos) who benefited from Olympiacos dictatorship in Greek football. All these years AEK and Panathinaikos tried to break Olympiacos legacy with a whole bunch of money(he had all the referees with him and some of the rest teams by his side) while paok was not spending anything and just taking his chances for a Cup etc. So by 2011 and after, while AEK and Panathinaikos were led to bankruptcy paok was clean and benefited by this whole olympiacos system and now can dominate the greek championship.
can u make for melisanidis?
And yet not a single word about AEK's shady owner Dimitris "I-know-where-you-live" Melissanidis. You might want to cross-check your sources.
Ρε μπαοκι ακόμα και εδώ βλέπεις συνομωσία;😂 νταξει προφανώς όλοι είναι εγκληματίες αλλά νταξ ελεος πια😂
άλλο θέμα ο μελισανίδης
mia xara to egrapse to and yet skouliki, an den ksereis agglika min sxoliazeis asxete
kai ston proforiko kai ston grapto mia xara xrisimopoieitai. Piges Agglia kai tin eides kathigitis tis Oxfordis.
εγω δε χρειαστηκε να φυγω απο την Ελλαδα γιατι εχω μια χαρα δουλεια και σπιτι και λεφτα, εσυ ως ανεργος πειναλας εφυγες για να φτιαχνεις κεμπαμπ στο Λονδινο για να ζησεις, φουκαρα. Εχεις και money καημενε.
Tour devendo muito
Guy looks like count dooku
When he was in Russia he was my uncles best friend and a week ago he visited me and i got Ivan Savvidis phone number, lol.
Nice video Tifo Football, but I would like to highlight some facts that should definitely be included. I witnessed what happenned last year from inside Toumba Stadium and I can claim I have a clear picture of what happenned.
You should have mentioned that 2 weeks before the infamous PAOK AEK, PAOK played against olympiacos in Toumba. The match never started because of a disgusting plot made up by rotten olympiacos. After that the fans of PAOK where full of anger. Later when PAOK scored a goal in the 89 minute of PAOK AEK the referrees firstly agreed that it was a clear goal. But later, after 8 minutes of discussion in front of PAOK fans (who were so happy at the moment) they decided to deny the goal. Me personally and everyone around me felt outrageous, like we were being stolen... AGAIN. At that moment 30.000 people could have stormed the pitch and the referees would not be alive now. Instead Savvidhs came in and everything else followed....
The world is not aware of these facts and they all blame us.. PAOK is being stolen of what he deserves for decades by Athens. We are the only ones fighting against athenian corruption and controll. Unfortunately your video suggests that it was PAOK responsible for whatever happenned...
the fact that the coach of olympiakos was hit by a item is a "disgusting plot"??ποσο αστειοι εστε ρε!!ο ιβιτς ποναει ακομα???
Was hit by paper.. he left so olympiacos would not be destroyed. Πως την αντεχετε μονοι σας αυτην την υποκρισια
@Νεζαρ Α.
do you want me to hit you with a cash register roll to see if it hurts?talking about hypocrisy...a cash register roll is lighter than an empty can of beer??
@@papariacci ανοιχτο ρολο ταμιακης που τετοια πεταγονται αμετρητα στα γηπεδα. Αν θες εσυ απαγορευσε τα ολα. Ειναι 100 φορες πιο ελαφρυ απο 500 μπυρας που φυσικα ηταν γεματο. 1ον η τροχια του αποκλειεται να προηλθε απο αδει κουτι. 2ον που το ξερεις εσυ οτι ηταν αδειο ρε επιστημονα εισουν εκει μπροστα? Εχετε το θρασος να μιλατε για τον ΠΑΟΚ που μας κλεβετε τον ιδρωτα εδω και δεκαετιες. Πως τολματε
αν η μπυρα ηταν κλειστη ο ιβιτς θα ηταν ακομα κατω και δε θα εκανε θεατρο ακομα και στα αποδυτηρια.υπαρχουν βιντεο και για το πως κινηθηκε το κουτακι αφου τον χτυπησε(φαινεται ξεκαθαρα οτι ειναι αδειο,ενα γεματο κουτι δε κανει γκελ αν χτυπησει ανθρωπινο κεφαλι απλως πεφτει καθετα,φυσικη λεγεται αυτο)αλλα και μετα που του ελεγε ο σβουρας κατσε στη καρεκλα εχει καμερες...το ρολο ηταν ανοιχτο αλλα ειναι μικρη η αποσταση απο αυτον που το πεταξε μεχρι τον γκαρσια και δεν αδειασε(και εδω υπαρχει βιντεο με τον τυπο που τον πετυχε να πανηγυριζει κιολας).να τα λετε μεταξυ σας αλλα οχι προς τα εξω γιατι γελαει ολη η ελλαδα.οσον αφορα την απαγορευση ολων,τοσα χρονια στη τουμπα παιχτες της ομαδας μου εχουν χτυπηθει απο καθε λογης αντικειμενο ενω εχουμε δει μεχρι τουβλα και μαλαματινες να καρφωνονται στο χορταρι διπλα απο παιχτες(που αν τους εβρισκαν παιζει και να τους σκοτωναν) αλλα η ομαδα εμεινε ή ακομα και δεχτηκε να τελειωσει νωριτερα ματς για να μην τιμωρηθεις,μεχρι που εκανες τη λαμογια στο βαζελο,καπακια μετα τις πουστιες με τον πλατανια.αφου λοιπον θετεις αυτους τους ορους και δε γουσταρεις τη μαγκικη συμπεριφορα που ειχαμε τοσα χρονια εκει μεσα αποφασισαμε και εμεις να παιξουμε με τους δικους σου ορους!!!σας κλεβουμε τον ιδρωτα ρε μπουρδελα με δωρεαν γηπεδα απο το κρατος,παγωμενα χρεη για χρονια,τους πιο πολλους καταδιακσμενους προεδρους απο καθε αλλη ομαδα ακομα και για απατες κατα των ομαδων σας,με δωρεαν χιλιαδες διαρκειας απο ακη και βενιζελο,με 23 χρονια χωρις διπλο ο οσφπ στο κοτετσι σας με προεδρικο διαταγμα?πουλατε αλλου το παραμυθι εδω δε περναει ξερουμε πολυ καλα τι εχει γινει τοσα χρονια
Savidis is not a criminal and he will never be.The biggest criminals ar marinakis and melissanidis.Savvidis try to clear the crime so the criminals who controll the channels can affect people.They present savvidis like criminal and greece's enemy.But he actually love greece more than the most of us.Please never judge by someone fro a bad moment.
Very good analysis and most of the facts are correct. However I would like to point out some things. First of all I am a Greek PAOK fan but I still I will try to be as fair as possible. In this video you have focused almost solely on the outcome last year's Super League. The thing is in an analysis like that we should also look at what led to all this. In the last season PAOK was after many years a realistic title contender up until a previous match against Olympiakos. In fact PAOK was leading the table. Olympiakos was in such a bad shape at the time that a domination at this game was sure. But the game never ended. In fact it never even started. That happened because a cashier roll supposedly hit their coach on the head (we use them at the start of the games to create a nice effect instead of fire crackers that are not allowed anymore). Supposedly one roll didn't roll out fully and hit him. Of course this is bullshit you can look up the video and even like that a game just starts with the assistant coach on. Olympiakos just said we are leaving and they did just that. (A game important for the title race is lost here). And now we go to the AEK incident. Because of the other match we effectively lost the lead on the table and we had to win AEK no matter what to take the lead once more. People were already angry so the team put a special net behind AEK's bench so that they have no excuse. Game started fans were very good not causing any trouble. And we come to the 89' minute. Game at 0-0. Fernando Varela scores for PAOK a real goal (no offside look it up). The thing is the assistant referee started running to the middle of the pitch as usual like no offside. That's what the referee did as well. AEK players went around the referee and started screaming to him not to count the goal. After around 2 minutes ( I'm not joking) the referee decides that it IS an offside. After what has happened this year and all the other years with Athens clubs everyone went mad. That's when Savvidis came down to the pitch and screaming for the team to leave te match. After some time it looks like his jacket was pulled away and there is a pic made with him having a gun in him pocket. (Never reached for it never attacked anybody just for self defense i guess I don't know) . Important to notice here is the fact that nobody saw the gun in real time. After some minutes the referee asked the teams to return to the changing rooms just because there were all these people on the pitch. In the security cameras can be seen that only then did AEK members seeing foto's of the gun on the INTERNET and started showing one another. Later the referee asked them to return to the pitch for the final minutes but they refused saying they were scared for the gun (they never saw in person). I don't think that what Savvidis did was right but let's just look at everything that led to this reaction and not just the result. Still this is by far the most accurate foreign report I heard about the incident . Good recearch keep up the good work!
1. Olympiacos tactics (abandoning the game) in your match were cheap, but remember your tactic's against Panathinaikos in the previous season. They were the exact same (abandoning the game).
2. PAOK was awarded the 3 points he lost for the match against Olympiacos and he got his gates opened (they were supposed to stay closed) at 2 am in the night, just A FEW HOURS before the PAOK-AEK game. I mean is that a teams chased by the system?
3. PAOK's goal was offside because another PAOK player who is in offside position moves towards the ball and TRIES to get to it. That by rules if an offside.
4. Either way i think we can agree that is a pretty hard decision to make and there are lots of opinions about it. But, no matter what, Ivan Savvidis should NEVER enter the pitch with the gun and threaten the ref. Other PAOK officials should NEVER enter the pitch and threaten the ref ''you are finished''. The ref was threatened and that is why he wanted to continue the game. PAOK should be banned for all this and he rightfully was. And if you ask me his ban was a pretty light one.
1. Completely different situation. Look up the rules and you'll understand.
2. The verdict of the appeal was out earlier than 2 am. It was announced by EPO, the football association at 2 am. But still, I don't see why that's PAOK's problem. Judges had a lot of days to reach on the logical decision of not penalizing PAOK (which we still didn't get all the points back). You should expect more from people being paid by taxpayers money.
3. Clear Goal.
4. Agreed. But, a referee at a football match is getting paid so much money, because he, supposedly, can handle the pressure in these types of situations. He made the decision to count the goal. aek players crowd him and bully him. Instead of giving one or two yellow cards, he changes his decisions. That has only happened once, and it happened in Toumba. Maybe he was threatened by aek's players.
PAOK's goal was clear.PAOK player (Mauricio) maybe was in offside position, but he doesn't touch the ball or prevent aek's goalkeeper and defenders to save the ball.That's why when PAOK scored aek's goalkeeper didn't react in any way and stayed on the ground with a sad face.We 've seen many cases in other championships where goals similar to this were counted.
1. Why is it a different situation? In both cases the manager was hit and his team grabbed the opportunity to win the 3 points without a match. (in PAOK's case it's worse cause he was losing). Also, do you want me to remind you how PAOK tried to win the 2017 championship? Yep, that's right on a court's decision.
2. I will ask you something and please be honest. Let's suppose that AEK and PAOK play a very crucial game for the championship but this time in Athens. PAOK is 5 points ahead and just a few hours before the game AEK is given 3 points back and now the difference is just 2 points. Would you talk about ''the Athens state'' or not? And also if the system is chasing PAOK why would the Association give him the 3 points back?
3. It's not a clear goal, because he TRIES to get to the ball. He makes the move.
4. Come on now. In almost every game the players protest against a referee's decision. What does that mean? And it's kinda ironic to say that the referee was threatened by AEK when your team's owner and officials invaded the pitch and told the referee ''you are finished''.
Nope...It was clearly an offside violation...
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And now he is friends with Marinakis just so he can be near the next president that will come propably being Mitsotakis.