Top 10 Worst Very Rare Magic Items in DnD 5e
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- In today’s video we’ll be taking a look at some Very Rare tier magic items, which are some of the hardest to find items in the game right under Legendary and Artifact items, and ranking some of the worst ones that are either too weak to be considered a Very Rare magic item, or outright useless.
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Written by: Zephyr
├ The List
Intro: (0:00)
10. Spear of Backbiting: (0:16)
9. Dragon Scale Mail: (2:51)
8. Stonemaker War Pick: (6:19)
7. Forcebreaker Weapon: (8:50)
6. Sword of Sharpness: (10:17)
5. Demon Armor: (12:04)
4. Arcane Propulsion Arm: (14:13)
3. Bracelet of Rock Magic: (16:18)
2. Bag of Devouring: (19:17)
1. Hammer of Runic Focus: (21:31)
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As soon as I saw the title, I knew Sword of Sharpness would be on the list.
About Dragon Scale Mail, and while this is a niche example, it is one of the few medium armours (I am aware of) that Druids are allowed to use, as Druids are forbidden from using any armour that includes forged metal. While there are likely some other high tier medium armours that do not use metal, I would imagine a lot of them do.
Also, Heat Metal exists, again something Dragon Scale Mail can protect you from.
I would suggest making the armor from a chromatic or gem dragon scales Some DMs might still try to pull some metal BS.
Next: Top 10 cursed times that aren't so bad i guess.
Shield of Missile Attraction comes to mind. If you give it to a character with high AC, they can essentially use it to protect more vulnerable party members from ranged attack.
Could be ideal for an escort mission. Need to escort a noble who hired you because of the threat of assassins? Well that assassin looking to snipe them isn't a problem if you keep close with a Shield of Missile Attraction.
I would rather the 10 most intresting cursed items of each rarity.
Regarding the Rocket Arm:
While the effects of it might not be that great, don't forget that you get your second arm back. Not being one-handed anymore already sounds good to me!
Yeah, I have no idea how it got that high on the list, like its effect can be underwhelming but it has no downsides compared to the place behind it being crappy armor that cripples you when fighting demons.
At that level you could probably get a regeneration spell as easily as the very rare magical prosthetic, and not use up an attunement
It is the attunement slot to get that arm back. In a world where regenerate exists it is a big investment as for the item, this feels like a You buy it thing. If that's the case your DM should be just as willing to make the Ring of Regeneration available and as long as you don't drop to zero HP during the process you regrow missing limbs in 1d6+1 days. So take two days to a week off and you have your arm back. You can also charge for services to do the same for others.
If your party knows that they possess the bag of devouring, it can be used as an evidence eraser. If you are sneaking into the bbeg castle and kill a guard, you can toss them into the bag and get rid of the body.
You can also do that with a regular Bag of Holding
@@jermainereyem7635 They could empty out the Bag of Holding to find the body though.
Put a body in a Bag of Devouring? It's just gone.
@@jermainereyem7635 there is still a concern about volume. Because this bag consumes the bodies you could fit like thirty bodies no problem.
I've had several parties make full use of cursed items in clever ways. Best one ever was a player who combined the 2e necklace of adaptation with dust of sneezing and choking. He would prance through battle spritzing the dust everywhere to devastating effect. Our DM at the time labeled that strategy "dust of cheesing and stroking". Bless his heart, he just made us track how much we had until it was gone rather than nerf the combo altogether.
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Spear of Backbiting is pretty fantastic on a Halfling. Don't have to fish for advantage to make the downside negligible.
The only good use of the Sword of Sharpness i seen was when the DM introduced an enemy that could only be permanently killed by that weapon. He could die in normal ways as well, but he would respawn a month later stronger than before. The party went on a long quest to retrieve the weapon during which they had to deal with the BBEG.
This how to do it.
Our party has a Hexblade Warlock with Elven accuracy who can use a Sword of Sharpness effectively. He gets a +1 bonus to weapons that don’t already get one, and rolling 3 d20s for attacks with advantage makes nat 20s a lot more common.
Cursed pfp
In defense of forcebreaker weapon, i honestly think is better then place number 9 and 8. You dont need any commitment or many resorces no craft and delivers what he promises, i would choose it before a plain +3 weapon any time.
Oh yeah. It's niche, but that's a very, very good niche for a weapon to have and getting PCs out of Forcecage and the like is always a good investment.
I dunno man, that +3 weapon sounds pretty good to me 🪓
9/10 list. These would be great items to hand out early, after some minor homebrew to make them properly usable and good.
The exception, I wouldn't give the Rocket Arm out for nothing, as that'd be foreshadowing an intent to maim which I don't have.
Forcebreaker weapons sound amazing as a tool for high-level bosses. As a DM your bosses can't be force-cage-cheesed anymore and the players can pick it up after the fight wihtout breaking your game in the future.
Try resting in full plate you can't remove not to mention the smell
Xanathar's Guide has a segment about sleeping in armour. I can't recall the exact ruling, but you do get a penalty to resting if you attempt to long rest in medium or heavy armour.
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Sword of Sharpness would be great in a game with limb damage...then again, literally ANY sword would become a Sword of Sharpness lol
I get what you mean, though I think with the Sword of Sharpness, you can cut off any creature's limb.
Hacking off an Ancient Dragon's tail with most weapons would take awhile. With the Sword of Sharpness, it's just gone in one swing (assuming you get the proc).
I was waiting to see if Logs would ever bring up the fact that the Bag of Devouring can be infinite waste disposal or a way to get rid of something you don't want to be found, but they never mentioned that. So I'm going to go on a limb and say it doesn't deserve its #2 spot on the list.
The Bag of Devouring can be *very* useful for cleaning up corpses or as a tool of intimidation.
2:15 Don’t forget the Path of the Giant Barbarian, they gain the ability to add their strength modifier to their attack rolls with thrown weapons, you might not get Reckless attack but with Elemental Cleaver you’ll get an extra 1d6 added again to the spear for an very good 3d6 thrown attack that you can do twice per turn since it immediately returns to your hand after a hit.
I understand the argument for the bag of devouring, but I do have a personal bias since I once got to polymorph a dragon into a squirrel and then my character just chucked it inside of the bag..
My dm did not like that and made some random recon magic situation which returned the dragon to its former state and disintegrated my bag
I thought the spear of backbiting was making a joke by saying its intended to be thrown, but also the wielder is unwilling to part with it and keep it within reach at all times, hence you never WANT to actually throw it and therefore have it leave your reach.
It would have been cool if the hammer of runic focus allowed you and your allies a +3 to attack and damage rolls to creatures inside the rune's area.
That or it would be cool as a weapon type called Weapon of Runic Focus with essentially the same ability but have +1, +2, and +3 varients with rarities of common, uncommon, and rare respectively. So a +3 weapon of runic focus could be given sooner than just a +3 weapon as the additional bonus is conditional instead of always being on and would really only benefit melee weapons
I had a bag of devouring on a druid I made, my whole plan was to polymorph enemies into small creatures and then throw them in but I never got the chance to use it.
I did this many times as a bard. I tried not to do it too often or I knew the DM would most likely resolve this over powered item
How to fix the final item:
While inside the rune, you and your party get +3 to attack roll and damage. As a bonus action, anyone can empower their weapon to deal an extra 8d6 damage and can not benefit by the rune again in any way until after a long rest
Or something, just a thought.
Ah yes, Bag of Devouring
More like the ultimate Body disposal item
I suppose that in the majority of these cases, it all comes down to the DMs intent. Other than when strictly adhering to a specific Module, the DM is the one picking the available magic items for a game as well as creating the opportunities to use them. If these two jive, great! If they don't, not sure why a DM would include them, other than just to mess with the players, always a BAD idea. Note; I'm not referring to Curses, those affect the Character, not Player.
Isn't there a rule that you can't rest properly while wearing armour so many while wearing the demon armour you can't even take a rest properly
Day 1 of asking how Yu-Gi-Oh monsters could be implemented as PCs or monsters in 5e.
Dude the spear is excellent, the drawback is so weak by the time you have the spear you either can have easy advantage or even be a halfling
Frost Brand is also pretty bad. Only does 1d6 extra cold damage, and has no + to attack/damage. The resistance to fire damage might be helpful sometimes, but then potions of resistance are uncommon and might be readily available depending on the campaign. It can shed light, but only in freezing temperatures, and it can put out non-magical flames, which might come up as flavor a couple times.
Compare that to the Flame Tongue, which is only rare and does 2d6 extra fire damage, and always sheds light.
Not to mention the Dragon's Wrath weapons from Fizban's powercreep it to hell and back. The very rare version gives 2d6 extra daamge on top of a +2 to attack/damage, and gives a once a day aoe attack with a fireball's worth of damage. Oh and extra damage to nearby enemies on a nat 20 too just for good measure.
Wouldn't the curse on the Spear of Backbiting mean you wouldn't be willing to throw it? You always want to have it close at hand.
Barbarians can't use Reckless Attack to get advantage when they throw a weapon, as that counts as a ranged weapon attack and not a melee weapon attack. Stupid, but it is what it is. They will need a different source of advantage to make good use of the Spear of Backbiting
I gave my party a combo Bag of holding and devouring. They used the munch side as a garbage disposal
So since this was basically a list of the worst items from the book of many things with some cameos, can we get a video of the best items from the BoMT?
Please make a worst rare magic items video because i just need people to know and understand how terrible the Voidwalker Armor is. It is so monsterously bad i cant believe it got past the early design phase.
I’m shocked you didn’t mention the Blood seeker ammunition, it’s pretty bad. It grants ranged attacks made with it advantage… if the target’s hit points are below its max for one attack, although it’s not consumed. That’s it. It gets worse when you remember the ammunition property mentions that you only recover 50% of your ammo fired after a battle. So there is a 50% chance you lose a very rare item for one reason or another. And because it’s a non-consumable, buying or finding them will be costly, just for ONE. RAW it is quite bad, but even if you handwave the book keeping, it’s just not good as a very rare item.
For the spear of backbiting id be a halfling
Good things to know
Dragon scale mail? Isn’t that something that’s given out by the starter set near the end of it? Something meant for level 5 characters?
You’re thinking of Dragonguard. It’s a unique breastplate that protects against dragon breath weapons.
@@CerealNommer and it sounds like it’s better than Dragon Scale Mail, both are +1 which make them equal in that regard but while Dragonguard doesn’t give damage resistance it gives advantage on all saving throws from enemies with the Dragon Creature type rather than just 1 color.
@@AtelierGod Both are +1 armor. Dragon Scale mail isn’t metal though, so it’s one of the best armors for druids.
They also *both* give advantage on saving throws from *all* dragons’ breath weapons, but only the scale mail gives advantage against Frightful Presence (all dragons), and damage resistance (one dragon damage type, but any source of that damage). Dragon scale mail also gives you an ability to detect the matching color of dragon.
lets be honest. cursed items in base dnd are absolutely no threat at all with how easy it is to just cast Remove Curse on it.
thats why in my games remove curse is only the first step of a puzzle regarding cursed items. the spell itself wont work alone except for weak curses or if the spell is upcasted enough. this going along with some of my own cursed items of which are generally much higher on the power scale then normal items of their rarity but with powerful drawbacks makes dealing with cursed items a tricky game for the players in of itself. let alone other kinds of curses. especially lycanthropy and the other therianthrope curses. a 3rd level spell should not be able to cure that ever. 6th level at least has a chance. 7th for sure.
2:37 halfling?
For number 10, I don’t think the self damaging is THAT bad on the spear. I’m more concerned with the fact that its a THROWN weapon that CAN’T LEAVE YOUR HAND!?
Something about Dragon Scale Mail which makes it very good, is if you have a campaign with a dragon BBEG and the armour you get is related to that dragon, then it can be extremely good, kinda like some ultimate armour that one or more players have to forge to improve their odds. Even if mathematically or technically it's not good for its rarity, it is good for its intended use. (I doubt a DM will give out a set of black dragon scale mail if you are never going to fight anything acid related)
For that purpose I would buff it greatly though. A +1 scale mail that does nothing but grant resistance to the dragon's breath weapon damage while eating up one of my precious attunement slot swould hardly be "ultimate armor". Also, the Absorb Elements spell and potions of resistance exist to grant the same resistance. And some races and classes get damage resistances too.
Compared to previous editions, it's pretty safe to say that *all* magic items in 5E kinda suck.
Strongly disagree with #6. You have grossly undervalued max damage every hit. Flame tongue, frost brand and dancing weapon are arguably the top tier DPS boost melee weapons in the dungeon master's guide. Let's use a great sword as our base weapon for the sake of crunching some numbers to compare the damage output of those to the sword of sharpness. Let's assume it is wielded by an extra attack melee character class who has hit with every attack (3 times in the case of the dancing sword).
Flame tongue; 2d6 slash, 2d6 flame. Damage range 4-24 per hit, 8-48 per round. Median damage 24 per round.
Frost brand; 2d6 slash, 1d6 cold. Damage range 3-18 per hit, 6-36 per round. Median damage 18 per round.
Dancing sword; 2d6 slash. Damage range 2-12 per hit, 6-36 per round. Median damage 18 per round.
Sword of sharpness; 12 slash. Damage 12 per hit, 24 per round. Damage 24 per round.
Just raw crunching of numbers, the sword of sharpness is definitely on par with those other DPS boosting weapons. It's "niche" functionality on crits is just an added bonus on an already amazing sword. Put it this way, if one of my characters were given a choice between the sword of sharpness and the vorpal, my internal debate and number crunching would be over the benefits of max damage per hit vs a +3 bonus to hit and damage, NOT the crit functionality.
Bugged me enough to crunch those numbers as well....
Vorpal sword; 2d6 slash +3. Damage range 5-15 per hit, 10-30 per round, Median damage 15 per round.
So yeah. Minus the "niche" of the vorpal's deadly crit and the +3 to hit bonus, it's overall DPS output would be significantly inferior to any of the above 4 swords.
top 10 best resistences to have as a player when?
22:45 Buying or making a +3 warhammer? DnD has no rules for buyign magic items. And making a very rare magic item takes years of ingame time.
Spear, not sphere. Thank you.
The Bag of Devouring is one of the most powerful magic items in the game.
It's literally a Super Pokeball that can be used to swallow the Tarrasque
Hmmmm, these items are all really bad (in the bad way). Well I would say that in and of itself completely justifies them being very, very rare indeed. Just my opinion.
Ya know by definition cursed items are bad, it's in the name dontcha know? 😂😂😂
With the Bag of Devouring, if the party knows they have it, they can use it to just straight-up kill enemies. Player opens the bag, throws it over the target's head. DC 15 STR check or you're dead. Simple as that.
Dude, cursed items aren't there to be useful.