Increase your skills on a Motorcycle (part 5) : How to lean without falling, even at low speed
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Or how to lean your motorcycle without falling, even at low speed... In this video, I want to show you how much the rotation of the handlebar is important for the balance of your bike, but in the other hand, it counter the lean angle.
Using the Energetic Drivability will allow you to use this rotation to turn tight and fast, but you will have first to trust this phenomene, and second, you will have to master your body to be able to lean the bike without counter-steering :)
If you are interesting about doing a training course with us, don't hesitate to contact :) - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I have to watch it over and over again, and then practice to fight with my fear. Butt&knees, no fighting with steering. Should go in right direction. Thanks for this encyclopedia of handling the bike!
You're welcome :) I hope it helps, but yes, you have to watch it again and again lol speed and brakes are the next step :)
I’m so grateful for finding this channel. I’ve watched many of your videos now and then went to practice. Within 45 seconds I was doing smooth, tight figure 8’s near full lock. It was easy. Almost immediately I conquered my fear of leaning the bike. Amazing content, thank you!
To clarify, use front break heading into the u turn, let up on the front break as you’re turning and then exiting and accelerating?
Thank you again! 🙏
Thank you, I am glad if it helps :)
Just be carefull to never use the front brake without the rear brake ;)
I came back from Metz doing the course last weekend and feel like sharing a few words.
If you catch yourself watching Anti Pilote de Ligne Droit videos more than twice, it's time for you to plan yourself a trip to France. :)
It will be more than worth it, you will learn a lot and acquire fantastic new skills which may also save you from a possible future crash, if you rely solely on countersteering to turn and one day slippery surface betrays you.
This is more than just riding a motorcycle, it's about increasing overall awareness and proprioception about you and your body.
If you have ever done any martial art in your life, you'll find strong resemblence, it's about finding that fine delicate feel for things and perfecting it.
Yes, this is a martial art, and Clément is a sensei. A motorcycle Yoda which will show you your way to become a Jedi knight. :)
He'll take you into the deep dark forest where 2+2=5 and you cannot (!) fall of the motorcycle.
You'll be up exploring the uncharted territory through a series of challenging tasks and brilliant exercises and each will grab you way out of your comfort zone but at the end you will manage!!! :)
Come fit!
The body effort needed to lean the motorcycle Japanese style is very tough on your core, as you need to hold your body yourself at all times, so better come as fit as you can, do stability exercises, planks, side planks and push-ups.
Come prepared!
Study all the major Anti Pilote de Ligne Droit videos so you can ask all the right questions.
Take your girlfriend/wife with you!
Metz is a beautiful place and France at its best!
The closest international airport to Metz is in Luxembourg, which is only 1h train ride away.
That's a convenient way to arrive.
My advice: take a week off and do two courses on two consecutive weekends!
Thank you Zeljko, for this kind message :) I am very glad that you understood it as you describe it :)
I love the explanation that you need perfect body control to be able to let the handlebar rotate. I was always under the impression that I would let my handlebar rotate and wondered why I had these scary moments when the rear of the bike started to fall or the rear tire was slipping. The truth is that I failed to leave the handlebar without force as a light touch is still too strong. But what was not clear to me in the video is the "good" way to increase the leaning speed. If I do not countersteer it takes too long to lean. I often see racers that seem to fall to their sides before the bend and I cannot imagine how they do that without countersteering.
Amazing, thank you for taking the time to make these videos because they help so much. The way you show and explain is very well done! Cheers!🍻
Thank you for this comment :) I am glad if it can help :)
Superb, this is by far the most comprehensive (understanding) animated explanation video I have ever seen. Chapeau!
Thank you, Wiel :) it took me some time to do it, but I think the result is not so bad :)
One of the best explanations out there. Thank you, again!
Thank you :)
I just subbed! This is just great stuff, intuitive, with graphics and you're actually, mentally thinking about it! Cheers!
Thank you, I think the 3D graphics helps a lot, for sure :)
Magnific! The best I have seen so far. Thanks!!
Thank you :)
Very good explanation, thank you very much! Your channel open my eyes to what I have been doing intuitively.
Cool :)
Excellent job! Thanks for sharing this amazing knowledge.
You're welcome :)
The best technical video tutorial on MotorBikes
Thank you :)
Thank you, very interesting. So much information to digest and experiment with. 😀
You're welcome :) but yes, so much informations on this video, but those informations are so much important to understand how the bike will react when you lean :)
This is a very good tutorial. Thank you so much
You're welcome :)
Great channel and good videos, full of info! Thanks! Safe riding
Thank you for your comment :)
Amazing, fantastic, mind blown 😲
lol Thank you :)
Thank you so much sir.your other videos were not in English so I comment in that please do videos in English and finally you done it.This helped me a lot.I really appreciate sir.once again thank you so much.please upload more like this videos of leaning and cornering and bike geometry in English.Thank You Sir. ❣️
Love You.... ❣️
lol thank you, but all the previous video were in English too :)
Thank you 🙏🏼
You're welcome :)
Thank you for providing this in English. I know that I fight the rotation of the handlebar because I am afraid to fall and drop my bike, and that is precisely why I can't seem to make the sharp u-turn. So many instructors teach, slipping the clutch, using the rear brake BUT no one tells you that you are just manipulating the geometry of the motorcycle to make the turn. Smooth throttle, brake to shorten the bike, counter steer to initiate a fall (lean) digressively release the brake and allow the handlebar to rotate in the direction of the fall to balance the motorcycle and finally smooth throttle to complete your trajectory. How do you recommend training yourself to do this, basically how to master each step until you can do this safely and confidently.
:)
Our course will change a LOT of things, I think... as you say, he rotation of the handlebar is the key for the balance, but we will not lean by counter steering ;)
真是非常之认真、专业
谢谢 Thank you :)
Gr8 as always. Better than ever. Linda thing u can watch all over. Good luck on Catalonia Greetings from Poland 🙂
Thank you :) How do you know I am gong to Catalonia?? Are you coming too ? Long trip from Poland :)
@@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite i simpy follow on FB the competition. None of us r coming this year, but we support Chech riders too as they compete every year in Polish cup. Consider yourself welcome too 🙂🙂🙂
Oh, oki lol I go to Catalonia, because lot of friend of mine are going: I don't have the instinct of competition, and my bike is not prepared as some other bike (I didn't change frame or stop steers of the bike, or the weight). But I am sure we will have a lot of fun, in a great area made to play Moto Gymkhana :) I just hope that the race will be tight :)
I am honored by your invitation, and coming in Poland to play with all of you would be a great experiment too, so why not :)
Superb! :D
Thank you :)
I'm a new rider and I am learning so much. I hope one day to come and take classes.
Cool, if it helps, it is made for :) and if you come, you will be welcome, where are you from ?
@@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite hey very far away lol I'm from the caribbean. Do you all have Instagram? I would love to follow
Great explanation.
It's as if we have to contract the inner hip muscle and the outer leg muscle during the turn?? Merci pour la vidéo en anglais et votre excellent travail. Salutations de la Turquie.
Thank you :)
Yes, something like that :)
Top! 🌸
Merci le Champignongnon de Suisse ;)
This is the best video to learn how to do Moto-Gymkhana turns. I was always trying to lean the bike by counter-steering and then tried like a MAD-DOG to turn the handlebars in the direction of where I want to turn. Guess what happens, the moment that I tried to turn the handlebar in the direction of the turn, the BIKE STRAIGHTENS UP straight away and the the turns are wide. This video (You need to watch it 10 times to understand it). It basically tells you to lean the bike WITHOUT counter-steering, so the bike is leaning with both wheels pointing in the same direction (of where you want to turn) and once you slow down (using the front brake) the handlebar is so easy to turn and thus achieve a FULL-LOCK. Use the front brake to carry momentum forward and tap the rear brake as you come out of the turn, while keeping the revs. FANTASTIC MERCI MERCI GREAT VIDEO
One more thing to note. If you are doing the FAST TURNS, just lean your body (and use the pegs) on the same direction of the turn, the centrifugal force will keep the bike upright. However for SLOW TURNS, you need to lean the bike and before turning you need to COUNTER-BALANCE with your body in the OPPOSITE direction as the centrifugal force is a lot less due to the SLOW SPEED. AMAZING VIDEO - C'EST GENIAL - MERCI X 1,000,000
Nice resume, especially the first part of your comment :)
in the second part, some things are wrong: we don't use the peg, as it is not enough strengu for higher speed, and we don't counter balance, as it is useless: you can't counter balance a bike, as it is so much heavier than you... the video tried to show you that what is giving you counter balance, is the rotation of the handlebar, that's all: as long as it rotates, the bike self counter balance itself, no matter the speed. And when you are full lock, you are loosing the effect, then you need to play with centrifugal force, by playing gently with the throttle, to increase the speed, but without having to much caster effect...
@@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroiteAccepter & Merci, I use all the elements of the body to lean the bike, starting with 1. Feet (pushing on one side and lifting the other). 2. Butt & Hip leaning in the direction that I want to lean and 3. Shoulders. And then the handle bar can easily achieve full lock. Yes I agree, the pegs are not enough, thus I used every part of the body. By the way I use the bike that no-one uses for practicing Moto Gymkhana. A Ducati Hypermotard 939, which has the worse non-linear throttle control in the world. No Japanese Moto Gymkhana rider will ever use a Ducati (they are not stupid like me LOL!!). They (Ducati) are a Horrible Monster to control at low revs. Merci mon ami :)) Greeting from Sydney Australie
Great video. Didn’t you use the clutch when turning? How about the speed of bike when you turn?
Thank you :)
No, I don't use the clutch anymore. The speed depends on your ability to lean without using the handlebar... the more you can do it, the less you need to slow down the speed....
Do you use a throttle lock when doing no hand manoevres like at 13:37? I have tried to do no handed rotations in 1st and 2nd gear but I have the impression that at this speed, the turning radius in a stable turn is really small (my speed was about 15 km/h). I would love some advice on that. Great vids btw!
Yes, I increased the idle, then the bike is self accelerating. If not, there is not enough torque, and the trail effect is then too weak, and this makes the front wheel to rotate a lot. For the same speed, if you have more torque, it will rotate less, but lean more :)
Maybe this other video can help you too ?
czcams.com/video/BJB7HeSqB2c/video.html
And if you want, we are providing training course:
antipilotedelignedroite.fr/fr/accueil/fr/fr/accueil/en/training-courses-2/
I was surprised to see that place at 3:49, I practice there sometimes, didn't know you've been in Prague (:
We went there 2 times, already, and I think we are going to go there again this year :) Do you know Shantanu Borski ? He's the guy who organize it in Prague and who make me come there :)
@@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite I don't know Shantau but I've found the driving school which organized the event, so I'll keep watching if they announce it for this year :)
@@MrSparker95 Ah oki, cool :)
and where did it go ? it can run like this forever :)))) Great stuff, I'm trying to get the most of it.
He met a lamp post first, then we stopped with the engine shut down button :)
So am i doing a right thing when turning, and cornering on the road? Correct me if iam wrong
1. Before turning i set my speed with front brake, zero throttle
2. I counter steer so the bike start leaning still zero throttle but still hold the front brake. no force on handle bars just let it doing his job
3. In the middle of the corner i start give throttle to maintain the speed, increase it little by little as the bends almost to end. (If the bends are tight, and i need to decrease the radius i drag the rear brake but still on the throttle).
4. Then i give more throttle to straighten up my bike on exit corner.
Seems good :)
But I don't counter steer lol
@@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite so how do you lean the bike without counter steer?
Hey can I lean my moped 150cc motorcycle for cornering using my buttocks and knee weight without using steering/handling to lean? But im afraid to practice this because if I fell down my coverset will be destroyed and handle also will run out of its position and needs to be adjusted to make it straight again.
Yes, it is possible, but it is hard : you'll need to find the good movement of your body first, and then to have enough strengh with some musles, if you want to do it with more speed.
But as long as the handlebar is able to turn (if you don't stop it, and if it is not stopped by the stop steers), you can't fall
Have you ever tried doing this on a triumph STREET triple 675 .??
Yes, in this video, there was a Triumph Speed triple, so if the Speed can do it, the Street will do it ;)
And we already had this kind of bike during some courses...
How can i easily hold full lock turn specially making circle? I always practice that but my arms keep fighting
Full lock is the hardest thing to do on a motorcycle. This is why I did theses videos and this is why we are providing training courses.
You can join us in one of our training course, if you want. Please look to our website for more informations:
antipilotedelignedroite.fr/fr/accueil/fr/en/training-courses/
Hi @@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite thank you for the videos, do you have lessons in english?
Hmm. To lean the bike : use the hip and outside thigh to slow the rotation of handlebars into right direction ?
Don't slow down the rotation, if you do that, the bike will lean more, but you will turn wider, adn with more risks of falling.
You have to use hip^s to link the work of the inside butt and the outside leg to lean your body IN the turn, not outside
@@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite Hello. Please let me ask you this. I saw a video from you titled "Demi-tour Moto à la Japanese Niveau 8", in which you explained that whe should LEAN into the turn first, but then COUNTERLEAN when leaving the turn, making our shoulders follow the handlebars.
However, in this video you never counterlean and always go inside the turn. How is this so??
Thank you, regards from Spain.
Hi, what do you mean with "to contract buttock knee sections"? Do you mean to push the legs on the side of the tank? Thanks in Advance! :)
Hi, kind of :) the outside legs is against the tank, and you have to push it with the legs, but the movement needs to come from the hip
@@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite So, the biker to turn on the left as in the video should push down the left side of the butt? Thank you very much for the reply
Thanks. It needs to chew items more and more.
You're welcome :)
For sure, it is not so easy to understand, but you can watch it as many times as you need :)
Can i foud this in hindi or full english somewhere ? Plz
Heu, the video is already in English :)
@@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite thankyou
T'as réinventé l'electricité, avant on avais une relation tripartite resistance tension courant, maintenant on as vitesse braquage angle
Ah oki lol
@@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite extra ptdr sauce poivre
i thought falling is part of the bike riding.. but it appears after watching your videos. scientifically a bike will not fall no matter what.
as long as the handlebar can turn, you can't fall, sure :)
my bike will do it my head won't
;)
A very good demonstration. You do need to use words that native english speakers most often use for the actions you are explaining. No simple way of doing that, unfortunatly. Also, it is critical to BEGIN with the lean, then the auto steering shadows that action in matching degrees. Rider steering, before leaning, will only result in losing balance, which is never good on a two-wheeled vehicle. There several rotational axis involved, so make it clear, you are mainly focused on "steering axis". All the forces, their degrees, direction and time lines chosen, are too complex to portray with simple models, but I do appreciate your accurate presentation of the key issues of MC operation.
Even in French, language is complicated, as one word can have several meanings first, and, secondly, several representations in people's mind :) This is why I prefer doing a course, to be able to adapt myself to people, and have more chance to be understandable.
Here, I am not sure if I am understand you correctly: what do you mean by "it is critical to begin with the lean"? In terms of the words I used, or in terms of doing it in real life?
@@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite I was referring to the chronological order of the actions. Maybe you didn't mean for it to be saying that the turning of the handlebars was done FIRST, as it seemed. Leaning (embalance) MUST always begin a TURN. Straight line travel, typically, uses steering to maintain balance, by rider or by MC. Once in a turn (inclined), Handlebar turning (steering head movement) increases or decreases the lean angle, for chosen turn, while maintaininig balance between gravity and centrifugal force. Barrel Roll torque and weight shifting can be also used. These actions when done in ecxess, result in a fall or failure to achieve desired turn, as you demonstrated. The MC, by its steering design, always attempts to return to a vertical, balanced state, as you said.
surpurb content only if you can explain everything better.
I tried, but this is something hard to understand, as it goes against natural feeling