Jeffrey Breaks Silence: The TRUTH About Canada's Drag Race
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Jeffrey Breaks Silence: The TRUTH About Canada's Drag Race
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Canada's drag race season 2 is set to premiere soon, but is returning with a troubled past. Two of the three main judges are not returning, and Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman has finally broken his silence about his time as a judge. Today we dive into Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman's history with Canada's Drag Race, Jimbo, Brooke Lynn Heights, Ilona Verley, and take a look at his shocking tell-all with The Hollywood Reporter.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman Breaks Silence
2:05 Canada's Drag Race Judging: Recap
3:45 Brooke Lynn, Ilona, & Jimbo's Opinions
4:16 Brooke Lynn Heights Twitter Apology to Ilona
4:41 Ilona Verley on Foundation Critique
5:34 Jimbo's Opinions on Judging Panel
6:10 Jeffrey x Jimbo: The Lost Podcast
8:32 Brooke Lynn Heights Speaks Out
11:39 Anastarzia, Kiara, and Ilona on Drag Race Contract
12:55 The Hollywood Reporter x Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman
13:22 Sassy Man Candy
13:54 Judges Personal Relationships w/ Queens
14:13 Earpieces, Prompts & Negative Critiques
15:15 Crave Counters Jeffrey
16:15 Rupaul, Todrick Hall, & Jeffrey
16:48 Jeffrey's Thoughts on New Judges
17:18 Crave's Plans for Future
18:54 Patreon Shoutouts
Canada's Drag Race premiered on July 2 on CRAVE and WOWPRESENTS. The season 1 cast included Anastarzia Anaquway, BOA, Ilona Verley, Jimbo, Juice Boxx, Kiara, Kyne, Lemon, Priyanka, Rita Baga, Scarlett BoBo, and Tynomi Banks. The first season was judged by Brooke Lynn Hytes, Stacey McKenzie, and Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman.
Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman Leaves Twitter: www.out.com/television/2020/8...
Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman Breaks Silence Over ‘Canada’s Drag Race’ Bullies
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CDR Being Rude and Annoying
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It’s Not Glamorous by Any Means
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Exposed: Brooke Lynn & Joseph Shepard
• Brooke Lynn Hytes Spea...
Exposed: Jimbo & Joseph Shepard
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Rupaul telling another person how to not be exposed, but actually throwing them under the bus, makes sense
BLHytes looks more and more like Detox every time I see her in drag
Great job, Bussy.
Change your intro its very annoying
rupaul: "blame it on the edit? bitch you're the one who said it!"
literally everyone else: i'm neck deep in mistreatment please help me-
"blame it on the edit? You the one who got it prompted into your ear by production"
Yesss!!! 😂
rupaul: "you said it"
literally everyone else: "you removed half of it along with the context of when, where, how, and even to whom it was said"
remember when in earlier seasons of drag race, queens would wear different clothes in confessionals, and then queens would change clothes in like middle of a sentence so they could be edited saying something they did not say lol, and then after people noticed, they added a rule for queens to wear same clothes in every confessional. so yeah we can blame it on the edit.
@@cigimon4 exactly! Thank you!
The more that the show is “produced”, the worse the show turns out.
Not really, UK is really overproduced and is one of the best seasons ever
Disagree, seasons 4-6 & as2 have never been met nor surpassed by any other season, and they were all hella rigged. It's just the rigging isn't great now
You all are entitled to your opinions.
@@susankeefer5981 even though they’re wrong, right? lol
@@andricardenas7854 Exactly lmao I'm sick of the "produced"
RuPaul: "Blame it on the edit!"
*Gestures broadly at years worth of evidence*
How you gonna regret it? You're the one who said it 🤣
@@SXJAYSX gives a whole new meaning to “read u wrote u”
Reminds me of what Roxxy said in AS2.
You can blame it on the edit but in the end you did say it.
Considering how restrictive the contract is against disclosure ( i.e defending oneself against online criticism), it is rich of Ru to use this as a defense. I mean the power of skilled editors to form whatever narrative the production team wants is what makes reality TV successful.
@@Morte_n Yeah. Because words can't be misunderstood and words can't be misconstrued with editing.
I found him annoying on the show, but the active online hate I will never understand. That was just mind boggling. I like him better off the show.
We know how rpdr Fandom goes hard against anyone black ijs
@@smooveayy absolutely!
@J they were going EXTRA hard on him BECAUSE of his color.
@J of course the white profile said this
agreed. I hope he's happy and healthy and as a guest judge only in drag race
I can't get over the fact that the blue dress Rita made and won the first sawing challenge with, its the same Rajah made under a minute in AS6.
and Rajah's looked better
Omg so true! And rajahs was way better
I'm still mad that Starzy wasn't in the top that challenge 😠
@@ashlikefrompokemon4327 omg literally! That was my favourite outfit of them all!
And Ra'Jah's dress looks way better...
RuPaul: "blame it on the edit? bitch you're the one who said it!"
The Drag Race editors: *splicing sound bites and sentences together, inputting talking head monologues from completely different episodes into something to fit a narrative, dropping follow up sentences to make things sound shady*
Yes! Exactly!
in fairness, alot of the splicing of statements is just for it to flow better and for the message to be delivering quicker. its called a frankenbite.
And then Ru has the audacity to release a song called “blame it on the edit” like drag race editors haven’t been shoviing show participants into the path of death threats for the sake of ‘entertainment’ for literal years
One of his contracts must be up 😂
1000 times this comment right here. The way they milk drama and story lines for contestants that are then harassed to the point of mental unrest is disgusting.
Both Contestants and Production are in on it. It's all for the drama and views.
people could also, i know this sounds crazy but hear me out, stop with the death threats regardless of the edit
@@bastioncory6740 idk about that… was Max “in on it” when they asked them to sing and then made them look ridiculous? Was Jaremi “in on it” when staff asked him leading questions just to make him look like a shit talking bitch in post production later? Queens on allstars have even expressed they’re afraid to vote in a shady way so the fans don’t attack them… almost no queens would purposefully throw themselves into the lion pit that is being hated Drag Race fans, because they’ve seen what bad edits can do to you. I think with allstars 6 (save for Jan) production is starting to learn how damaging edits to make people look bad especially without making them look better afterwards can be to careers, and are maybe phasing it out but… yeah
When I watched season one, I didn't like how Jeffrey was portrayed during judging, and I knew that it was production twisting things, because whenever he's been on the American version of the show, he's always been such a delightful person.
You're right he was nicer as a guest judge.
100% I fully thought he be more of the ‘Ross’ on the season; or just more of himself as a lover of the show
@@alishashah842 yes.
He said what he said and his face stanked how it stanked
@@queenmagentafox 🤣
This mistreatment this franchise continues to get away with is crazy
Who will hold them accountable?
Not rupaul who basically threw it back in the queen's faces
Of course not. But that doesn't truly answer the question either.
SO crazy--- as much unbelievable money this show make3s across the GLOBE- to pay queens the PENNIES they do per show (and i have no doubt that the American drag racers get paid more- but even THAT is something like $500 or $1000 per episode)... The show feels EXTREMELY exploitative of the reasons the show is so huge-- the drag queens themselves..... smh
They keep getting away with it because they're making crazy amounts of money, fans keep watching every single season, and the ratings are telling them to not stop stirring up drama. Until the fans actually stop watching and then hit the franchise in it's bottom line, this will all continue.
The lesson will always be not to abuse or harrass people online from what you saw in a reality show
Glad someone said it
those people looked like deranged fools back when a lot of us thought jbc meant most of what he said on screen, but now they look like complete f*cking absolute fools
AMEN!
The JBC tea is piping hot... was not expecting tea of this magnitude.
took the words out of my mouth
Really, it did seem like he was being feeded what to say.
I feel for Rita. As a french canadian I wanted her to win (along with Kiara ofc) but obviously she wasn't meant to. I think she's smart enough to know some of her wins were unfair to other queens. Thankfully she is doing AMAZING nowadays on french-speaking canadian tv shows. She's been literally plastered everywhere and doing wonders at educating the public on LGBT issues. Shame on the producers for what they've done to what could've been an amazing first season.
I saw one of Ilona’s interview and she mentioned that even if people could see the weird judging, Rita was still so loved - I think it was the case that the production was so heavy handed with everything it was really unfair. But I’m glad she’s doing amazing stuff! I’ve seen on Twitter how busy she is!
Rita is doing so well, it very impressive what she is doing in Quebec, she has taken her platform to a very high level. She is not so much in the clubs or drag shows but working with celebrities, hosting shows and she also co-hosted Just for Laughs, very cool.
Tbh nobody should blame Rita for the unfair win she got. It's not like she was the one who awarded the win.
Also RPDR Belgium as the host!
Brooke Lynn had a point with the race issue. While the things that Jeffrey said during the season were quite mean, he's the only judge that I know who's had a petition for his removal from the show. Michelle Visage and Santino Rice have torn queens to shreds before but there was no 'cancelling' happening for them.
I think Santino and Michelle are a bit more qualified to give those kinds of critiques, Santino as a fashion designer and Michelle's been in the drag scene for aaaaaaaages. Good point tho
@@lilynoir3939 It's just as much of JBCs job to give those critiques as Michelle's or Santino's. He's been a model for 20ish years, and a performer for almost as long. We can use "credits" to argue for or against, but really he was asked to be there and do the same thing as Michelle or Santino. They are all B list celebrities doing a gig, JBC is no different. The hate had racist roots period.
The real tea is Canadians aren't as nice as ya'll think.
@@lilynoir3939 , are you kidding?
Santino went straight from not winning Project Runway to judging "Miss America" and other reality competitions. He doesn't even have a website for his clothing lines. He is a reality tv expert, not a fashion expert.
And Michelle was a Madonna wannabe in a forgotten girl group that only initially lasted from 1988 to 1991. Other than a mediocre music career, most of her experience is in radio work.
Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman has been modeling and acting consistently since he was 15.
@@liamandbradley this, i have dated canadians and they are just nice on the surface.
This inaugural season seemed more planned out than others. It appeared that Rita was to win, until production saw that we wanted someone else.
I wanted Scarlett BoBo to win
@@angelahicks963 same her
@@angelahicks963 but I'm soo happy for priyanka too
Rita is literally EVERYWHERE right now on Quebec television, and I am 1000% here for it 😌
@@c0p.8 I live in america but I'm hearing that Rita is doing alot. I know she was on big brother. Good for her.
I said this when season 1 was airing. Jeffrey's appearance on the show felt like a scripted character. It was so far away from what we know of him as a person and it makes complete sense that production fabricated him as the villain. Hopefully we won't be seeing that again when season 2 airs in a few days.
I felt the same way. I was like, who tf is this person and where is JBC?
But what most of us know him from is also a produced version of events on the American version of the show. The point is, Jeffrey said what he said, he said it the way he said, and this whole "woe is me" thing is such a disservice to queens like Ilona - who had to deal with the HARSH words that Jeffrey said.
The producers may have told Jeffrey to give a negative critique...but Jeffrey is definitely responsible for the rest of it.
@@Tytytytyty1776 Not gaslighting... we love to see it.
i didn't know him, but it felt so forced and like someone trying to act that couldn't and shouldn't have had to. I prefer when the judge can be more authentic. I feel bad for him and the people the show felt necessary to have someone say shitty things to
Editing could have balanced JBCs critiques, they chose not to. This likely was a poorly thought out production decision, that didn’t stop. Setting JBC for an avalanche of social media attention, for the Canadian franchise’s success, unfortunately at his expense.
I think the worst part is that he contractually (allegedly) couldn't talk about it until now. Couldn't defend himself when he was getting all the heat and now his defense of himself won't reach as large of an audience as the episodes in question did. This man had his character assassinated for cheap drama 🙄
He didnt have to say those things though. Or wear that hidious purple glitter eye makeup. That makes me hate him more!
Poorly thought out production decision or systemic racism in the Canadian tv and film industry? We need to ask this question.
blame the director/producer, not the editors. Directors and Producers set the tone on set and in the editing bay -- editors just do as they're told.
The editing is so good, it’s scary. I genuinely thought the judges (all of them) were totally unprofessional, and just being rude instead of actual criticisms. But wow, the power of editing. I feel bad for all judges, especially Jeffrey
i thought that too. turns out the editors threw most of the good (or at least friendly) critiques out apparently 🤦♀️
it fooled me too. now i feel kinda bad for thinking that way.
Idk, Michelle Visage was never really professional or constructive. How did she not receive the same treatment JBC gets?
Maybe that's why none of the previous judges are back except for Brooklyn Heights
Sometimes media train us how to watch them and what to watch for, and Drag Race does this at least from the vantage point of interstitials, where it'll show a montage of preview clips with reactions that we later see were reactions to other moments. Or we see clips of judges apparently judging contestants harshly with contestants appearing to flinch or even to cry, and then we see in context that those comments were said in jest or were said in such a way as to communicate the opposite. Anyway, the production does show us clearly in this way that footage can be and is manipulated for the sake of manipulating our feelings and that it can be constructed in such a way as to entirely misrepresent what actually happened. We should all be aware of this with reality television (and I hate to say it, but also news media) because they all do it for the sake of creating dramatic tension and eliciting emotional reactions from viewers.
The show would probably be quite boring without this kind of narrative constructing, but it has gone too far in many cases, and a lot of individuals' reputations have been wrongly damaged because of it. Ultimately, RuPaul and crew are winning awards for it and making a lot of money, and so it will go on.
Honestly unless I see the words and names coming out of their mouths, you can’t tell me production didn’t mix and match critiques like we KNOW they do on us drag race.
production: is lowkey racist with jugdges and contestants, encourages drama and fights between queens, discards quiet queens bc they’re boring to watch unless they’re hot, feeds lines to say to contestants and judges, distorts footage to fit certain scenes to add dramatic effects to storylines….
Rupaul: She wAnna BlAmE iT ON tHe EDIT 🎶🎶
Dino, you can't blame them for wanting the show to be entertaining. You should be blaming them for doing sh*tty things to make the show entertaining.
Right??? Like the fucking AUDACITY that that woman has
@@Paulxl thats exactly what dino's doing in this comment though???
Discards quiet queens unless they’re hot. Lmaoo aint that the truth
I keep seeing this and idk if it's a joke or not but while it is Ru's responsibility to fix it, JBC said it was different on the american version and the common denominator missing is that Ru wasn't there to control things hands on. So maybe in a way, we need Ru to be there? Somehow the show is more edited and fabricated when he's not there.
Hmmm. Now that I'm thinking about it, I really don't think that the judges are the bad guys. I feel like the production of drag race are overly producing the show. I really want to see some of these showrunners are running things behind the scenes. This is an amazing opportunity for a first-time judges for an on going gig. The new judges don't have that much of a influence when they're on set. I really want to see what the producers and editors have to say about the negative critiques on the show as of late
exactly what im seeing. over production by straight white cis people. Just like everywhere in Canada, minorities are happily ignored. And ive lived here since 2005. This is Canada,
I also think they weren't ready to be judges. They made comments that fans would make in a reaction or something, and it's stuff that comes off harsh coming from a person in authority, like the judges. Sounds rude and condescending
@@Exiled.New.Yorker If only there were someone in production higher up to consult and get direction who has the perspective of a gay black man who has a profession tied to the drag scene or something.
@@scottbwright Ru Paul has lacked viable perspective for many years now. He thinks you can manifest success by putting on a suit, ffs
I mean, Ru *is* an executive producer of US and UK (definitely the first iirc the second.) So you can say this for Canada in particular, maybe, but not in general
It’s interesting that RuPaul just released “Blame it on the edit” after JBC said that it was Ru that told him to leave Twitter. Sounds manipulative.
There is SOOOOOO much abt Rue and W.O.W. that seems that way for me too- for YEARS now....
I think her song was more so directed at certain American queens since she's heavily involved in it, which really has me curious as to who she's talking about. But even with the American edits they don't make everyone seem ALL bad. Like they may lean more one way or another but they end up showing different sides to them. It's almost like Canada's Drag Race said let's give the judges the villain edit and it backfired.
The fact that Jeffrey had a conversation cut in half to make him look mean, makes me really reconsider my opinion of the queens who “blame the edit”
Okay but what he actually said wasn't any better.. He was still implying that Jimbo wasn't trying before when she literally won snatch games the week before
@@hgfhjhgcvjj6476 I’m not a fan of him either. I’m just saying, maybe not all of it is his fault
Okay but if Ru is making singles like Blame it on the Edit then that’s goes both ways and includes the judges
Lol you think Ru WOULDNT make up a song to try and discredit her detractors? Where have you been for decades.
Ru is one of the few people on Drag Race who will never be edited as in the wrong. There are a few moments were we see some dramatic sides but he will never get the villain edit so he can do whatever he wants at the expense of other people's career being affected like that of Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman, Jeremy Carey (ex-PhiPhi O'Hara), The Vixen, India Ferrah, etc.
@@akumayoxiruma Exactly, the part where he told Pearl she had no personality at all etc was edited out, to make Pearl look like the "something on my face" brat.
@@TheLoonu But Ru and the other judges say that to contestants a lot when they feel they're holding back. And after Pearl showed more of her personality, she starting winning challenges. Hell, they said it to Laganja when first came on Drag Race and everyone loves her. And everyone knows you use the phrase ""something on my face" when trying to be a smartass.
Wow how awful it must have been for JBC to have thought he was getting the "bubblegum edit" and then sit down to watch the season and see how he was actually edited, followed by all that hate from the fans... I definitely feel bad for him. Sounds like Canada's Drag Race production might be even worse than the US's 🙄
But... what he did say.. it was still rude. And no one forced him to say crazy shit!
@@clover5668 watch the video, he was told to read off of pre written negative critiques
@@underpressurecolon3 He still said them and collected those checks.. 🤔
@@clover5668 you don’t have an option when you’re under contract
the fact that the edit extends to judging panel is... interesting, to say at least. i think it's even funnier considering that rupaul himself denies ''shady edits'' all the time - reality tv stays fucked:)
Have you heard the last ru song? He has the nerve to call it "blame it on the edit".
@@Paulxl i know 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@jezuszlodziej I think it's really distasteful.
@@Paulxl as everything ru does for past couple of years... all shade
as much as i love the drag queens themselves, drag race has truly become the fast fashion of drag. poorly made and pumping out as much content as humanly possible.
What does this statement have to do with the contents of the video you commented it on?
he did do alot of things extra but we do have to keep in mind that it is a reality show and has messy production
There's a lot rotten with all the versions of rpdr that needs addressing, this is a good highlight of that. I think he made the best choice for his own well being by leaving, but I also hate that he was pushed to that choice by blatant racism. As a canadian, I really appreciating him using his platform to point out the lack of Native talent featured, as we're an underrepresented, often forgotten population- unless its convenient. I keep hoping for a viable competitor to rpdr, so that queens who want to take that route aren't forced into a show that is questionable at best with its production.
The closest competitors are Dragula or Camp Wannakiki, I am a fan of CW, but unfortunately it has a lot less fans than drag race, but all the queens seem nice on CW, and no one really gets a shady edit, it’s more like a best bits highlight of everyone. The fandom also seems more positive as a repercussion, which sort of to me points out that these shows breed what they sew.
I unfortunately can’t watch dragula as I am awful with gore/body horror stuff so while I think that everyone involved is very skilled I only have testimonies of people i know that are fans that it is good. But can’t say from experience.
As not the vast majority of the fans of RPDR are calling out the toxicity, some are even thriving from it, I doubt production will change, so best thing we can do is support these smaller drag shows, I believe, and support non RPDR queens without pressuring them to go on RPDR.
@@flicnerdy4385 I really like Camp Wannakiki too ❤
@@flicnerdy4385 I wasn't aware of CW until recently (since RPDR sucks all of the air out of CZcams suggestions) and am really loving it, the fact that they are focusing on Campy Queens who always get short shrift elsewhere is a bonus. The judging is constructive and supportive and really does not take itself too seriously.
@@flicnerdy4385 I'll definitely have to give it a watch, I'd love to support other types of drag content! I think thats the most likely route to take, giving views and support to other programs bc youre very right about rpdr and its fandom being fuelled by toxicity, and unlikely to change.
@@flicnerdy4385 OMG I am totally in love with Camp Wanakiki! It is my all-time favorite! I also watch all the Dracula and as well as drag race Thailand when I can figure out how to get it!!
So “The Edit” it’s always making queens look bad, mean or even deranged (Look at Max’s elimination). This time they did it to a judge. What’s really DISGUSTING is the fact that RuFracking has the nerve to release a song about blaming it on the edit. At this point he and his production team are the real JOKES. Seriously it’s revolting the way they treat their employees.
The nerve!!!!
The cheek,the nerve,the gall, the audacity and the gumption!
In this case it is jot Ru’s production team, that’s the problem, even the judges aren’t safe from nasty producers
I totally agree. I couldn't believe how many people enjoyed Ru cussing out Joe Black on the runway. If he isn't careful then he will follow in Tyra Banks' footsteps for real and be cancelled. I love seeing all of the amazing talent and really want to be able to continue doing so. As the face of the franchise, Ru should reign it in. The queens will be dramatic on their own, no pushing is needed. The people who only want the drama aren't true fans imo.
@@korie4198 well I have it on good authority. That the part we got to see was actually tamed and edited. Jo.. I mean someone said that Ru was even meaner to Joe. And that Joe got specially bullied by Ru. It was clear to all the cast that Ru did not like him.
This , ladies and gentlemen and others , is why you don’t bully people from a tv show ONLINE !!! It’s a tv show !!!
During the original controversy it was always my opinion that it felt fake af, but I couldn't tell if it was JBCs choice to play the "Simon Cowell" or if it was production meddling and edits. Guess we know now.
I'm sorry but there really isn't any good excuse for the awful judging of that season. I mean Rita LITERALLY did not wear denim and still somehow won the challenge.
Let's just pretend Jimbo won that challenge and go to sleep with peace.
If the judges were literally told what to say on the panel, do you really think they are the ones that decide who wins and who goes home?
It's all the invisible production crew we never see or hear of that makes all the decisions.
Rita had several questionable wins, but i guarantee you they weren't brooke's decision.
@@davidmorris8319 I think him saying "production told me to say this" and "The white producer guy told me to be the sassy black guy" is kind of a bs excuse honestly.
When he's faced with criticism about not only his judging of the outfits, but the manner in which he went out of his way to berate the contestants, he SUDDENLY pulls the race card and tries to justify it?
No sis. Not buying it.
You didn't see the other black judge on the panel complaining about racial injustice on this scale during production, and that's because I highly suspect he is exaggerating it to try and cover up the fact that he used the platform to bully the contestants.
And yet again this comment comes from…. another white gay man. What a fucking surprise. 🤷♂️
Of course he undoubtedly said what he said and tbh this whole season was a fucking shitshow and a pain in the ass to watch, mostly because of the JBC situation or whatever you wanna call it.
But seriously « SIS » how can you not believe that a tv-reality program is over-produced? You do look like a grown-up even so… everybody comes to life with a brain, use it better maybe.
idk who you're apologising to since defending the decisions for the winners and bottom 2s was not the point of this video at all. also jeffrey at most decided 33% of that? i know the comment section is a free place but yours is so out of place it genuinely looks to me like you're strawmanning
@@mildeic.6193 I'm a woman of color but go off sis 😂 make blatantly ignorant remarks.
Not Canada's Drag Race being one of the most traumatic and toxic since Willams season for queens 🙄
Well, maybe UK 3 might beat it …
@@iain9757 UK3 might be the new Selener... We gotta keep an eye out for her.
Production has been cursed since Quarantina entered the werk room…Canada, down under, UK….and US is just increasingly problematic for the talent every season
@@iain9757 nope, willam already exposed the fact that they filmed an episode everyday just to fit Ru's schedule.... 😬
As a Canadian who's worked on both sides of the camera, none of this surprises me. The simple fact that it's taken the Canadian production team over a year and a half to follow up on season 1 should speak volumes. And Covid had nothing to do with it. Dozens of shows continued production during that time, including one that I host so their delay was a choice not a preventative measure. It saddens me to see this new panel and I'm not holding my breath for a better season than last. But from the recent promos for season 2, it looks like there are some excellent editors out there. Let's just hope Canada's Drag Race had the foresight to hire them! Seriously. ❤
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I’m just so confused as to how Mother herself is played as part of the solution rather than the core of all of these issues within the franchises.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! She has managed to skirt by any real criticism for SO long it feels like to me too.... :-(
So much about the D.R. 'fish' is rotten from the head on down.....
What I'm hearing is that our perceptions of how mean the judges were is valid, but it's not on the judges. Sounds like production was as brutal on the judges as they are to the contestants. I feel really bad for what JBC went through, just like I do for the queens who draw the wrath of the fandom
Dear Bussy, I'd just like to thank you for always lightening up my day. I've been suffering from severe anxiety and depression since Miss Rona arrived, and desperately looking for comfort. And every time you pop up on my feed, I feel like things are gonna be okay, at least for a little while. So thank you for that.
*long distance hug*. Those BOTH (depression anxiety) can be SO damn HARD to deal with at times.... I feel for your going thru.... and SO hope- in whatever little way it can happen- that slowly bit by bit ur mood and emotional headspace gets better and better for you as time goes by.... 400% wishing the best for u, fellow DR fan....
Sadly the first season was too Toronto oriented ... not even a French Canadian judge on the panel. Thank god, they dared to have ONE French Canadian guest judge on season 2 !
It is unbelievably unprofessional and fairy-tale character naive to not have a social media manager (or monitor or whatever) for the FIRST season of an english speaking Drag Race spinoff. This isn't coming off of season 2 or 3 of the original. They were incredibly unprepared and untrustworthy with the brand and more importantly the Queens.
I didn’t think he was that mean on the show personally his delivery of critics and tone just came off harsh at times, he reminds me a lot of how Santino Rice was. I think it’s the way production made him out to be this ‘terrible rude judge’
But Santino was worse. He was openly just mean.
@@CoreyT97 I agree I think he body shamed queens more than any other judge ever has :(
There has been so many unnecessary harsh judges on the show.. and look at judging reality show on the whole, there are famous white reality judges whose claim to fame is literally being rude, Simon Cowell, Gordon Ramsay, they are celebrated for being mean and this poor guy had a petition to be removed, it's absolutely bizzare.
At least Santino had a background in fashion. What did Jeffrey have?
@@caitthecat yet all of santinos outfits and critiques made it seem like he s never been exposed to fashion like ever
Ru: "Blame it on the edit? you the one who said it"
Brook Lynn and Jeffrey: *blames it on the edit.*
Ru: 👁️👄👁️
Hearing all of this makes me wonder one important thing. Who actually decides which queen goes to the next round and who doesn't because from what JBC has said it doesn't sound like it is soley based on the judges's critiques
I feel for JBC. He was such a sweetheart in his appearances on US Drag Race and suddenly his personality took a 180 in the Canada season. I knew there was some producer fuckery.
I have to say the Simon Cowell judge trope is so so tired now. From my experience in reality, the harshest judges are much more toned down - people really aren’t here for those blindly nasty comments (think Cowell complications of telling people they’re just awful)
Even the way Michelle relayed critiques had died down over the years or rather the way it’s delivered works much better - and of course her moments where she isn’t just mean. Compared to the issues many people had with Santino’s critiques - the vibe of the show really changed upon his departure
So why, oh why, did someone sit and decide to just go hard into the negativity ? Just feels out of touch , maybe it’s just me being naive, but this approach described by Jeffry feels straight out of the early 2000s
You know why that is? Because Americans don't know how to be honest with each other. It's all sweetness and light to faces and bitching behind backs or nowadays in print anonymously. Paula Abdul even said so at the time. 'We all think it, only Simon comes out and says it, whilst we say it behind your back'. That's the reality right there. The rest of the world, including Canada is not America. It's always the same. Our culture is X. Every man and his dog has to do it like we are used to or we will spit the dummy. No, we don't. You (as a country) not getting it is a you issue. It's arrogant to expect us to be you.
@@tkps doesn't simon cowell work in british media as well? also... i disagree? being polite and constructive is not being fake. the job of a judge is not to humilliate people. and people don't like nasty judges because they "keep it real", they like them because it's entertaining. where are you from? i'm all against united statians acting like people are assholes for having a different culture but i don't think that's what's happening here
It took me way too long to realize that the show is all about entertainment and money is the bottom line. Drama sells. People and their mental health will always comes a distant second to money. The producers if they aren’t already should be offering mental health services to the queens and help prepare them for what is to come once the show starts airing. These services should continue for at least a year after the show’s run has ended.
Money is the bottom line for literally everything in the world. When you see it that way you are seeing the truth
In the earlier seasons Ru used to go against the other producers, like they didnt want sharon or jinkx to win. But recently she seems to just go with the flow and oblige more.
Wow, it’s the double standards for me, dawg. When white judges are mean, they are celebrated. When Black judges are (coerced by production to be) mean, they are dragged and cancelled. If there were Black people on the production team, they would have pointed that out. Stellar reporting, Bussy 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
JBC said it best “it’s just f_cking television”
That interview with Jimbo is soooooo fucking fake
@@RNCHFND I don’t know why it’s called “reality television” when it’s the most edited, scripted and unrealistic form of entertainment. But I freakin love it! Long live the queens.
@@RNCHFND I enjoy the show immensely but the buck stops there. I love some of the queens. I dislike some of them. I don’t come to social media to praise or bash. When Untucked is over and the sashayed queen drives away in that van, my life continues as normal.
*no offense to the fandom but some of y’all need to get a grip.
@@mattm1725 100%. The people that go crazy over it and call out people for this or that, need to find something else to do.
@@rajsra3842 I understand RPDR can be riveting. Almost downright addictive. Just don’t take a show that is such a positive outlet for so many (I even got all my straight friends watching btw) and make it into an unhealthy obsession by sending hate and negativity. I even like the channels dedicated to the show. Bussy keeps it real, informative and unbiased in my opinion and he comes with the puns! My type of guy.
OMG....I have ALWAYS thought something was fishy in the way Jeffrey was portrayed. Now I know. Thank you for your informative post. You should have been a Detective. Thank you for ALL you do for the Drag Race Community. This 🍵 was pipping 🔥
It really is maddening to see they aren't taking the queens mental and physical health more seriously.
Bussy I love how you give credit and sources to other CZcams channels 🥺 so many other people would just say “a CZcams interview” or something equally vague.
So now it makes sense about Ru's new song "Blame It On The Edit" (or something like that)
So the questions are:
Is this Ru firing back officially?
A way to promote the song knowing that JBC and BLH are going to talk about the editing?
A way to stir up some drama in preparation for the upcoming season?
I personally think it's all of the above
Ru is a shrewd businessman and he knows how to take advantage of a situation; turning controversy into coins
RuPaul has nothing to do with CDR. As far as I can tell, he's excluded from entering Canada, probably a felony drug arrest somewhere in his past.
Drag race and Drag race Canada are two separate shows...why are you bringing up Ru?
@@Exiled.New.Yorker so she isn't making money from cdr?
@@d.o.m.i. I don't think she is. Cause she's not hosting it and her name isn't attached to it. But who knows maybe there's something in the contract for her to get money off of the other franchises. I highly doubt it tho
Just Ru being the manipulative, hypocritical, self-serving, control freak queens ive heard about her being from SO many ppl for YEARS now.... The more that gets Ruvealed abt the inner working of the show makes me low key dislike Ru more and more
It really does click into place that production was the one who was the puppetmaster. Especially since he had always seemed nice and pleasant when he was a guest judge on the other American seasons. It was like we were seeing an entirely different person on CDR, they literally turned him into a super villain. Production really dropped the ball and turned a season that could've been one of the best into one that was almost unwatchable at times. Do I think the judging was the fairest, even without all that production meddling? No. But it would've been a bit easier to stomach if we didn't see them brutally taking down people who didn't deserve it. I just hope Season 2 takes a completely different and more organic approach.
If this isn't a wake up call to literally everyone with the dangers of corporate contracts, that hold power over someone's voice and, the powers beyond in entertainment then idk what to say. I believe this should be a red flag but you know the world, unless something drastic happens nothing will change. I'd hate to be apart of this dumpster fire with knowledge of what happened
I’m really glad that the UK show has leant more into kindness and supportiveness, because that’s what the reality of drag is when you work in the scene here.
Didn't dislike him, he came across to me as Canada's Michelle Visage, the stern one. Not saying he made sense but I don't understand why people went all the way to sign a petition...
probably racism + lack of bonding with the queens on camera + he doesn't do drag and misused terms several times + he often sounded ingenuine and "trying to hard" with the way he acted (which may be because a lot of his critiques were scripted, as we've seen). michelle visage is white, gets more drag references, has more experience working in drag race and is ru's best friend so i think all of these factors help her in that regard
he’s black so i see why the fans would go that far unfortunately
This worries me for squirrel friend Traci, a black woman. I pray she gets treated better, especially now that the tea spilled all over the place. I’m already noticing bullsh*t like why isn’t she in the picture with the guest judge?
They do wear an earpiece in the U. S. versions, the judges come up with witty things to say during the catwalk runways but they also get given suggestions.
Whenever I hear "sassy" my mind immediately goes to Community:
Dean Pelton : Shirley, the voice. Can you make it, um. I thought it would be more s... What's another word that means "happy threatening"?
Shirley Bennett : [into camera, sweetly] The word he's looking for is "sassy".
Shirley Bennett : [flatly] He better pray he don't find it.
And Yvette Nicole Brown wrote that joke too, referencing her own experience as an actor
The offensive tea compilations are my absolute favvve.
Good morning Bussy! I feel bad for JBC. I hope production learns from their mistakes and makes the necessary corrections, they should start off with adding diversity in the crew.
Interesting point about racism. Maybe a black producer would have stopped Rita’s claim of being potentially the first Francophone winner, from going out.
As everyone from Cameroon watches and says WTF?
oh la la la la la la c'est bon, c'est bon
I honestly don't get how a group of people who have experienced hate, will turn around and hate on another group of people.
Like you know what its like to be hated. Why would you turn around and shine hate someone else?
I’ll never understand that either.
it makes them feel powerful to be the mean popular girl for once
welcome to the lgbt+ community
Its a very, very common fact in our so called LGBTQIA community. To me its a case of the oppressed becoming the oppressors. Racism is blatantly amplified within the community here in NY and has been for decades. This baffled me for years until I came to the realization that many Gay men here are transplants from other parts of the nation where they have never encountered People Of Color. They bring their ignorance and pre conceived notions with them. I even briefly was a volunteer at GMHC until I overheard one other volunteer actually say that I was selected because "someone likes dark meat". I was also asked to speak at a gathering of another organization to speak of my experiences. I never mentioned anything about my "ethnicity" because I did not feel it was significant but the participants made it a point to mention it during Q&A. I was literally verbally attacked by a racist mob who couldn't wait to tell me how they felt about me being an AMERICAN LGBTQIA Man of Hispanic heritage. I opted to walk out. And in tears. It's real. But I now know that people act out this way because THEY HATE THEMSELVES. It has nothing to do with me
It's such bullshit. All of it. im sorry, you had to deal with such nasty bullshit.
Ever since I was 15 and encountered a member of the LGBT community that tried to come for me, it had made no sense.
I honestly don't remember most of the conversation, I just remember saying, "But you're gay. Unless youre closeted, you know what it's like to have someone hate you for something you have no control over. " Every time he answered, I would repeat, "but youre gay, though."
That's like a Muslim person hating a black person in the UK or US. It's like. But youre experiencing the same thing too, so. Makes no sense to pass that on to someone else.
World makes no damn sense to me.
What they should do is NOT SCRIPT ANYTHING. Everything should be organic. Let the judges say what they want to say as well as the contestants. Let their true colors show.
Then you could end up with a show with nothing happening. We should just assume "reality tv" is as all kind of tv fake up to an extend.
I'm here for the tea 🍵👀
Me too
I love hearing Jimbo’s accent, sincerely someone else from Vancouver Island
Yet more proof of the maxim that the more this franchise is over produced, the worse it gets (Drag Race Down Under). But, when its left to be natural and unforced, its fantastic viewing (Drag Race Espana, Drag Race Holland, Drag Race Thailand). There really does need to be more consistency from WOW's end on tone of voice for the series and they must ensure they work with their production partners to see that realised. Clearly there are some staffing issues at Crave that need to be sorted as well - the stuff the Canada queens had to put up with is just off the wall inappropriate.
I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE! If this shit keeps happening, they're going to lose more and more viewers, until there's nothing left.
Now that Ru has become very, very rich and very famous, he has let himself become one of those Hollywood assholes.
My favorite moments in drag race are the wholesome ones. I love seeing the girls work together despite differences they may have. Truth shines through eventually, and that's what happened here. Shameful.
They KNOW the winner before the season airs... And that's for the WHOLE FRANCHISE!
I remember seeing Priyanka’s confessional look and I was like yoo she looks mildly familiar…. low and behold I used to watch him on YTV right after Carlos left when I was younger 😂
i'm not really sure if you can call it racism, wanting him out. stacey was also on the show and said a few questionable things yet no one wanted her out, as far as i know
Stacey didn’t say anything close to the comments made by the other two. In my eyes, Brooke Lynn made nasty comments too but the fandom chose to attack JBC the most. It was racism.
Racism plays a role, even when it isn't distributed evenly
I think Brooke Lynn said way harsher things, but unfortunately, the Fandom usually sends more hate to black Queens and ig a judge in this case. They were both a bit condescending though
The lgbt community has never been welcoming towards black men in general so they had to pick on someone 🤷🏾♂️
@@lemongivesulife nah jeffree is just overall annoying on the show. If he was white alot of us still wouldn’t have liked him
Jimbo: “Jeffery I love you so much”
Jeffrey Behind The Camera: 🔫🙂
When will we hold Drag Race accountable for how they treat the people who appear on screen? How do we hold them accountable?
the only ways i can see things changing is if 1 the show's views drop suddenly or 2 there's a revolution in the US and canada led by leftists that forces companies to stop abusing their employees and by extent forces the drag race crew to be more ethical. both seem extremely unlikely to me 😥
When contracts expire
Bussy, this is an incredible video! You explain everything so thoroughly. I’m just here to say that you are amazing at what you do, and I appreciate how you give all the info objectively!
no matter what productions ill intentions were, the fandom didn't have to overreact the way they did. i enjoyed cdr1 and didnt think much of the judges panel until i saw the reaction online. its sad that he had to lose his job because of overly-invested "fans" who can't just enjoy the drama and move on
I mean? He did say some harsh things that I did not find pleasant, most of the judges actually without seeing fan reaction. I don’t think anyone, judges or queens, deserves online hate and I hope they can avoid it when they can, but I do feel like it’s for the best? On both sides?
@@STKTSTKT i mean sure but so are michelle and some of the other judging on regular drag race so its not that big of a deal to me. they could've worked on it and listened to critiques for s2. but yea agreed its for the best at this point, whats done is done
i didn’t like him on canada’s drag race but i think he’s such a sweet and warm person.. on the america’s drag race he had always been amazing
I know the supposition has been that RuPauls video "Don't Blame It On The Edit" was going at the queens who have been on the show - now I'm starting to wonder if, as contracts expire and people start talking out, it is more damage control and pointed at people ~other~ (or at least massively on top of) than the queens. If they knew Jeffrey was going to break his silence at last, a bit of damage and spin control might have been pushed ahead of the statements.
I'm always torn on things like this. On the one hand, it is pretty despicable the way producers invent narratives out of nowhere to portray queens or judges in a negative light. On the other hand, it is reality TV, and everybody involved in the production should go in with the understanding that they might not come out of it smelling like roses, that their words might be twisted and their character assassinated. It's a part of the gig, the tradeoff for the potential for instant fame and notoriety. At the end of the day, it is just TV, and that's something the fans need to remember too. There's absolutely no excuse for harrassing the people giving us good TV. They are real people with real feelings.
I just don't think it's fair to expect contestants (and judges apparently) to lie down and accept their edit. AS6 was filled with positivity and it made me so happy to watch. I want to hold the production teams to a higher standard and expect them to treat their cast with respect
like it’s good tv, but then sometimes the editing is too good to the point you might think a judge/queen, or anyone else, is a genuine asshole, and people could cause a witch hunt till.. something bad. it’s an extreme possibility. But far from impossible.
Okay okay, the ad in the episode was actually good lol I downloaded the app 🤘🏻🤘🏻 I need to see Baga on The Circle 😂😂
JBC was a sacrifice. He got played
And mama ru just came out with “blame it on the edit”
Rumour has it that if you are early, Bussy queen will respond
Love your content. Thank you for showing another side and really digging to give everyone a clearer perspective.
Could what the contract states about no personal relationship with the cast be why Ru said to Pearl don’t talk to me unless the cameras are rolling, Ru could have said it nicer tho.
I don't think it's a bad idea that the judges don't have relationships with the queens beyond filming. I think it's a basic precaution that helps keep the competition fair.
If that’s the case then she should be getting on Michelle’s case as well. Michelle has a close relationship with maaaaany of the queens outside of filming
@@childrenofthecornbread whilst on the show, nothing can stop them after the season has been filmed.
Brooklyn saying losing is the real winning and pointing at herself 😭😂
fr there was a drunk live with Priyanka when she was like ‘you should be judge next season, because now you’re technically more qualified’
As a Canadian, its extremely disappointing for several reasons, mainly bc this is another “Canadian” platform where indigenous voices are silenced yet again
I saw you uploaded and my brain started chanting "bussy. bussy. bussy" and i dont know how to feel about that
This video went on a different direction than I thought it would because this is crazy. Great video bussy thank you
As a viewer, it’s so easy to follow the way you break things down. I can sense that you are a fellow perfectionist, so I just wanted to say thank you for all the work you pour into this content. Sending you love
I feel so bad for JBC. Being treated like this really isn’t ok.
so happy you covered this!!
Your videos are so smart and well thought out. I appreciate your content ❤️
Thank you so much nick 🤗
I’ll admit, that “particular” moment did not sit right with me when I watched it. The horrible thing is what “fans” did. Basically, stop harassing people, keep your attitude to yourself.
Todrick and Ru have a lot of nerve jumping on JBC's boat. There's plenty of reasons to not like them that have nothing to do with being black.
Yeah sure...
@@cordeliacortez8742 Literally the fact that Todrick doesn't pay his dancers? When he said his video was looking "too chocolate" ?? Ru's history of transphobic comments and attitude towards others??
Shut up and think before you type again.
Thank you for this 💖 i was wondering about the tea
This camera quality is amazing friend idk if it’s different or my phone finally doing right😂
The worst part of all this is Bussy writing Brooke Lynn's name as Brooke Lynn *HEIGHTS* 😭
Is it not that? 😅
Lmao nvm, it's HYTES! 😂😂😂😂
Comment interaction bonus! As a Canadian, that tea is hotter than a double double from Timmy's on a dark February morning in Saskatoon, eh!
Get it iced, maybe.
as hot as HamOnt Hate.
The fact they apparently commited total character murder on him for personal potential gain is actually insane. I never understood why his personality on DRC and the US version was so much different, but now it all makes sense
wow wow wow!! yet again another beautiful summary of what actually went down, it all makes sense now.. thank you so so much for sharing this information