Overland Expo PNW: Portable Camp Kitchens
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- UPDATE: Craft Autoworks has continued evolving their product and has brought the price down from what I mentioned in this video. You can check it out on their website:
craftautoworks.com/portfolio-...
At Overland Expo PNW 2022, I didn't specifically go looking for portable kitchens. But these tend to catch my eye when I'm walking around. We took a look at few in last year's Expo coverage, and here are a couple more I found I hadn't seen before.
These don't come cheap but it's always interesting to see the various and innovative approaches to this universal camping need. Perhaps some ideas here may inspire your own DIY projects.
If you want to take a closer look at either:
Craft Autoworks Portable Kitchen System:
craftautoworks.com/portfolio-...
Overland Vehicle Systems Komodo Camp Kitchen:
overlandvehiclesystems.com/ko...
(zero affiliation with either company...just showing you stuff I looked at)
More kitchen ideas in this video from Expo West last year:
• Products, Concepts, an...
Playlist of all my Overland Expo PNW 2022 videos:
• Overland Expo PNW: Qui...
Intro: (0:00)
Craft Autoworks Portable Kitchen: (0:37)
Overland Vehicle Systems Kumodo Kitchen: (3:45)
Conclusions: (6:48) - Auta a dopravní prostředky
UPDATE: Craft Autoworks has continued evolving their product and has brought the price down from what I mentioned in this video. You can check it out on their website:
craftautoworks.com/portfolio-items/portable-kitchen-system/
At some point, we all have to take a step back and ask ourselves if we're trying to 'gear' ourselves into going outside, or if it's a worthwhile quality of life improvement. There's so much of this in overlanding right now, and we've lost sight of what camping is, which is messy, and not like the creature comforts of home. I've considered these setups but then I realize it's for something that accounts for maybe an hour of use each day on the trail/at camp. Where is this money better spent? I get the allure of having a self-contained chuck box transformer, but maybe that's a perfectly attainable weekender DIY project instead
Not only attainable DIY project, but I think a DIYer could easily make this far more functional. Built in stove with propane connection. Fold-out legs so you don't have to ALSO set up a table. Some kind of usable prep surface that pulls out or folds out. I think the initial idea is good, they just didn't fully think it through.
@@softroadingthewest totally agree
whenever a business is made out of something and so many products have already been created there comes a point where products have to be specialized or nobody considers buying them. thus, overgearing...
Camping use to be messy and not like home because we didn’t have the technology to make it otherwise. Now we do if you chose it.
Exactly..
Dude! If there is anyone who could DIY one of these camp kitchen deals, it’s you. Great content on this channel!
No kidding! Donald has skills
Even though those are well out of my price range, its still great to see to get some DIY ideas, Thank you Donald!
Awesome meeting you at PNW and we greatly appreciate the feature!
To address some of the thoughts you raised, we actually had a built in cook top on the left side in the first prototype of this but switched to the portable Gasone cook top for a number of reasons. It provided much more storage in the left compartment, the Gasone cook tops are dual fuel and can run off Butane or Propane, it lets the left panel be used as a prep area before you start cooking, and theres no risk of burning/melting the Molle bags if you close the lid on a cooktop thats still warm.
Regaridng the price, yeah, its alot. Just the material cost on the parts if you were to buy them yourselves (which isnt fully possible since the black ABS panels are all custom CNC cut) would run you $1000. Then factor in that these are hand made by us in Reno, NV with a 2 year and it adds up fast. The price listed on the website included shipping. We were actually selling these for $1495 as an Expo deal.
But to one commenters question of whether products like this are a want or a need, even we believe these are firmly in the want category. Nobody NEEDS a kitchen system running over a grand, but some people find use/benefit in it and for those folks we are proud to produce a quality product for them.
Again, thank you so much for the feature and feedback. We had a blast at the event meeting everyone and are looking forward to more in the future!
Thanks for commenting! I really do like the concept, which is why I stopped by in the first place. Thanks for addressing the concerns. My channel has a pretty strong on-a-budget/DIY vibe and the viewers I attract tend to lean that way. :-) I think it's still good for us all to see the innovations being cooked up. Nice meeting you and thanks again for taking the time with me at Expo!
can the water drain out of the sink...did you create an attachment for a hose so the sink can drain away from vehicle?
That portable kitchen in the maxi case idea is fantastic! Definitely need to look into either making one or buying one. Thanks for creating the video!
Wow what a perfect solution. Makes me rethink my clunky kitchen. Well done.
So many options! Thanks for putting this together!
You nailed it when you said, these setups can help spur on ideas for us DIY guys. Especially at the listed prices. I can't believe the mark up on that craft autoworks unit, I'd guess under $500 in materials and that's at retail component pricing. Anyways thanks for sharing, I love to see new innovative ideas in this space.
I like the first one the best, but no way would I pay that price. Great video.
Yep. I had no idea of the price at the time, but now that I know...this is DIY inspiration only. A lot of other things I'd rather throw $1,800 at. :-)
I love that setup with the first one you showed. Can't afford it, but that one is ingenious.
03:20
I appreciate the edits mid-sentencing!
Reducing a minute statement down to a half-minute... always a good idea.
Interesting to see. I know both systems. Have made the cost myself in a Pelican case. The combo unit is awesome because it is a chef kitchen in the outdoors. Cooking meat fish champignons with flame is a totally different taste. Succulent. It allows to grill veggies at the same time and cook rice on a burner. I use multiple pans to cook, grill, flame, burner is a major go for me. It's possible to cook a fish with potaoes and veggies, prepare coffee at the same time, by the river...
It is not for whom uses a single burner on a choping board.
Great video.
New Subscriber. Really appreciate your Overland product videos.
Personally I think the price is insane but OVS does make top quality products. The OVS 270 degree awning is the best overland product I ever purchased for the price. It appears that portable kitchen is built with the same quality.
Thanks for bringing this to us
I love your video. I do not see these as practical for my family's use.
Your observations were spot on, Donald. Very interesting however.
It is good to see companies innovating in this space. Even though both systems were very expensive, they may seed ideas for more affordable solutions to follow
Agreed.
Just done a recon run to my local Bunning/Home Depot, all up about $600 AUD. The box $250, pump $120 and what's left will cover the rest
Great video, thanks for the idea I never thought about going this way, I thought about making a chuckbox but I think this is a better option
Man that first one especially had me shaking my head. The guy talking about a bunch of stuff in bins being bad, but basically all he's done is put all that stuff in a fancier bin. Then heard the price and about fell over. I wish him success, I hope he makes a million, but it's not the product for me.
Yeah...if the thing had a stove built in, a work surface that would slide out, and legs that fold out so it wouldn't have to sit on a table, now we're starting to talk about a useable self-contained portable kitchen. As is, this is as much work to set up as my kitchen and isn't nearly as functional.
pretty informative little video thanks!
The first one...I think they are on to something...at least in the box ...possibly reconfigure it ...I agree about the stove fuel supply. The plastic weather proof is a great start. I wish them luck and success..
Great video, some cool ideas for kitchen setups
I agree, I saw so many things at PNW Overland that were SO overpriced it was somewhere between hilarious and sad that people really thought they were worth the price they were publishing, while other things were well worth the asking price. I did see a couple of well built kitchens in the $600-$800 range that were modular and worth the price that intrigued me and might help empty my wallet...
I like the first one until I heard the price you could put one of those together yourself for well under 1000 the ovs is clever with the slide out griddle/burners but I agree they should’ve done a collapsible sink or something on the other side rather than a “backup” thanks for sharing I missed these at expo
Especially because if you want a rocket stove as backup you could easily buy a collapsible one as a just ik cas3 rather than lose a ton of cookspace
@@jjoshwilliams9853
With the rocket at shoulder-level, is the skillet nearly over-head?
really cool stuff with great ideas but I think I will stick with my yellow top totes and thirty year old Coleman, Have a great week!
Yep! :-)
Great video Donald I would agree with you that these are a little bit on the higher in price point and I think people could probably make one a little bit more affordable but great concept but not for a budget builder
You're a handy guy, Donald. And you seem to know what works and what does not. Maybe you should produce and market some overland products! :)
Some great ideas for sure.
Bit pricey but great ideas aspecialy the one with the rocket cooker, all the best to you and your loved ones
I thought the first unit was pretty cool until at the very end when you mentioned it was $1,800. I can do a whole bunch of stuff for $1,800. And you also got me thinking it's a good idea just to carry a rocket stove in my vehicle just in case.
Yeah I hadn't really given any thought to the rocket stove as an emergency back up, but some kind of collapsible version that packs flat would be an easy just-in-case thing to have in the rig.
@Roger,
Are you familiar with Fire Box Stove?
Constantly evolving, the developer takes his on amazing adventures, including dirt-bikes and goat-packing:
czcams.com/video/Qr8QDbqs4gY/video.html
They used to call this tailgating and thats what I do.
Put the Coleman on the LR4 tailgate and if i need a griddle add that to it.
No box or drawer needed
I am using the same model Camp Chef stove that you have. My nephews gave it to me two years back as a Christmas gift. I went from green propane bottles to a refillable 7lb bottle. I actually came very close to burning down a National Monument Cabin when the gas regulator on this stove failed and it caught on fire. Camp Chef recalled and replaced the faulty regulators. Free of charge. No BS. The other stupid simple cooking platform I regularly use is just a foldable campfire grill. If you have a campfire...
The issue with the Camp Chef regulators was unfortunate but they are great stoves. I was lucky not to be snagged in that recall, having a different regulator version.
The issue I didn't think to mention with the rocket stove backup solution is that it would be illegal to use much of the year in much of the west. :-\
$1800!! USD! Feeling pretty good price-wise and versatility-wise with our Drifta carback kitchen which cost way less than those (in AUD).
My home kitchen didn't cost that much! :) You can literally say "I brought the kitchen sink."
My folding table and HDX totes work just fine and cost less than a tank of gas.
Yep! :-)
Q: Qwik connects on the water and electricity on the 1st one?
Those were pretty cool. But you're right, I'm not spending that kind of money on that gear. But both were clever, and I'm surprised the stainless unit was the more affordable (well maybe I'm not really surprised, marketing). I do appreciate being able to see some of the expo without having to schlep down there. When summer broke, and I was returning from the Wallowas, 95' in Yakima kinda put me in my place.
I think we were only upper 80s at Expo but with that sun beating down I was only good for a half a day of filming per day and then I had to just awning-surf the rest of the afternoon. I love that they're doing an Expo here now but I wish it would be in October instead. :-)
@@softroadingthewest
Hmmm.
If only somebody we knew was property-sitting twenty empty acres someplace around Eugene, Oregon... and had some free time during each October for the past sixteen years.
Garsh.
Two folding tables and a 60 year old Colman works just fine for me. Total cost is probably about $65.00. Thanks for the video! George.
Haha, yep! :-)
So a Roam case with 2 holes. A frame into which I set a plastic tub and a single burner stove. 600 bucks maybe? Are there cheaper know off Roam boxes??
Are these not on the market yet? I was checking out the Crafts Autoworks portable kitchen site and there's nowhere to place an order. Thanks
Interested in that power box the first kitchen was hooked up to. I love seeing all these different set up's just out of design creativity but for me I just carry a Lodge cast iron griddle, dutch oven and two pans for cooking over an open fire with two cinder blocks for the griddle (if available) and a home made wind brake or two pieces of tree trunk if cinder blocks aren't available. If it's during a burn ban then I have a small smoker I've converted into an open pit with grates. I try to carry as little as possible but the good thing is there really isn't much I can't cook carrying minimal tools. I can cook pretty much just about anything I can at home with little to no limitations including open fire pizza and other baked foods. However, I guess this would be the ticket if you can drive your vehicle to the camp site. Not so much for primitive camping deep in the woods where everything has to be carried in on foot.
@Charles,
I turn 71 in a few weeks.
We prefer camping in our ExpeditionVehicle.
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The only cooking we need more gear is a boil on the beach:
* lobsters
* clams
* bouillabaisse for a crowd.
For this, our two Dutch-ovens or our cast-iron skillets are woefully inadequate.
.
Planning is essential.
Planning for contingencies is essential.
Planning on lasagna in case nobody catches anything is essential.
Those prices are insane!
Yeah, price tag on those isn’t quite worth it. the OVS one is more versatile and well built but somehow less expensive. As others have mentioned, it is nice to see some innovation in the space and will likely spur on other companies to make interesting solutions at a better price. Still gonna stick with our Coleman stove though 😁
Another great company for a rocket stove alternate is Firebox. Made in the states and the guy has a great CZcams channel doing all sorts of adventures all over Utah. We’ve used ours for many years and it’s a small footprint for a handy thing if you do end up needing it.
For me one of the best part of this overlanding thing is the diy stuff, but I understand how some people would rather just have it built already too.
Agreed. Perhaps these might at least provide some DIY inspiration. :-)
Don't like cooking where I sleep and both require another table to setup on. Great for tailgating or a cookout at the park. The first one could be DIY'd fairly quick while the second could be reversed engineered from the 80/20 store and a sheetmetal fab shop... and cost as much if not more LOL.
Kitchen chuck box and a table. Done.
Interesting ideas but I think I'll stick with my Coleman stove and collapsible sink. I have a non-related question for you though. I see that you use a rear view mirror camera in place of your regular mirror. I've been looking for something like that but keep finding backup cameras rather than full time rear view. Can you tell me what kind of mirror cam you are using? Thanks!
It's the Vantop. Not sure it's still available, but there are other very similar products out there. I have a video about it:
czcams.com/video/NgI44eqPDbQ/video.html
@@softroadingthewest Thank you!
I like the first a lot actually, so considering that case is a 65L case you can easily find by just searching the name on the front and the internal mounting (also would allow more options/attachments) is just cut to fit square aluminum T-slot beams (same thing that most 3D printers /makers use)... And then realizing you could incorporate hinges and folding stabilizers to fold past the box on the left instead of just pulling them out then fold another panel back in to double the work area makes me really consider a DIY version 😅
@Time,
.... especially helpful for our next excursion during a monsoon or tornado.
Rioters with jugs of 'questionable liquids'?
Thank you Donald for your video yeah I think the price point is a little out of whack.
Agreed.
Its perfect, but it really needs a way to drain the sink into a grey water tank. It could be as simple as a drain with a hose attachment.
I don’t like dumping grey water into the ground. Maybe that’s just me though?
@Tyson,
Agreed.
Gray-water needs to go someplace other than my standing spot for fixing the next meals.
Love seeing different gear, $1800 seems very expensive for that box
Agreed.
Yay!!
Good call on the pricing...i was thinking if the first one was 1k i might be interested...but 1.8k? Nope. Second one had no appeal to me at all.
I was liking that first one, then you hit me with that price tag. ooof! I'll stick to my w@llm@rt special :-).
Haha, yep. :-)
I prefer use twigs on the rocket stove! The food tast better!
New idea overload, getting into these off road camping idea's
That 1st one has my attention.
@mixflip ~ Me too, but that price is a little steep. I might go for it anyway.
Kinda bummed I didn't run into you at PNW! :-)
@@softroadingthewest believe it or not I struggle with big crowds and large social gatherings.
Anyway, if I go to the next big show I'll stop and say hi if I spot you.
Thanks for the video Donald. I thought both of those products were terrible though. And I formed that opinion before you mentioned their laughable price tags.
I agree that neither have been as well thought through as they should have been for the price. :-)
Now that I've thought about it for a minute that rocket stove on the 2nd one might not be as silly as it initially seemed. It could be that it's actually a unique conversation starter and a necessary counterbalance in the event that you put a pot of stew on the outside burner.
I was seriously confused when he said the burners required their own fuel sources. It was like they threw the whole thing together out of spare parts the day before heading to Bend. Or forced an AI to scroll through Facebook overlanding group posts and watch CZcams "chuck box" videos then told it to design an "overlanding kitchen".
On the plus side neither one of them seemed to have an integrated bottle opener. So maybe we're getting past that phase.
Price is outrageous. All portable kitchens' should be under a grand.
I think you should consider the "Trail Kitchens" portable camp kitchen, they also available slide kitchen btw
And the "Dometic GO Hydration" water jug with battery powered water faucet for camp kitchen water supply, very expensive tho, but I think you can borrow the idea and make your own water supply for your portable camp kitchen
Personally I'm not considering any kitchen...I'm very happy with my lo-fi old school system of taking out a table, a bin of pans & utensils, and my stove, and the simple gravity-fed water delivery I built into the back of my truck. These kitchens just caught my eye without knowing the price tag. I do enjoy seeing clever new approaches - I wouldn't have thought of building a kitchen into a weatherproof tote for example - but for $1,800 I would expect the thing to practically cook dinner for me. :-)
@@softroadingthewest thanks for the replies, btw, did you saw the "ORU Designs USA" booth from the Overland Expo? They got some very interesting slide out kitchen, check out their website (czcams.com/video/Ivs4xL2_3hY/video.html booth video btw)
@@notjohnwick007 Didn't see it, but looking at kitchens wasn't really on my agenda. These two just caught my eye because they were portable setups and I hope to eventually refine my own "portable" setup. :-)
@Not John,
We use a *new, no chemicals* Craftsman 20v garden sprayer for pressurized water.
The 20v batteries fit other tools, including our Craftsman chain-saws.
czcams.com/video/r16GVA8a-S4/video.html
Yeah, neither one really would work for me. I prefer to keep it simple but functional. Too much stuff to drag along. I did like your Forester kitchen. I like the rocket stove concept but not how they were using it - stand alone would be my preference - making coffee, canned stews, chile, etc. I like the wok style setup that Jason uses, primal outdoors - good channel. Same with Casey- he keeps it simple.
Greatly appreciate the video. Shows how much room there is for better more financial credible solutions. Egad. They must’ve had their injection molding done on the moon.
LOL
I like the first one a lot but not for the price they’re asking, wow. Looks like a good DIY project… hint hint.
Rocket stoves definitely have their uses but usually a last resort kinda thing for sure. The 2 burners requiring separate fuel sources is not that great, my parents had a camp stove like that and the height required to clear green tanks was up there. Much rather have a Coleman stove if anything. Should be simple to make a box setup with both of both worlds for a decently cheap buildup. Surplus stores, salvage yards, and hardware stores have most of that stuff available. For the specifics rv shops come in handy as well for the folding faucets and water pump systems. Harbor freight or craigslist for the case
Indeed...I can't believe a 1-grand kitchen can't have a single hookup for two burners. I feel like many DIYers could outdo both of these efforts.
@Jason,
For us, foraging is a way of life.
"Retail is for schmucks!"
@@largemarge1603 indeed
But like… how about a Coleman and a bucket? I could even put it in a plastic suitcase if you want
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The price is freaking ridiculously high!
Hey Donald, I have a KELLY KETTLE which is just as good as a rocket stove.
Ditto, last year the sticks in the campsite was the excuse I needed to make coffee on it rather than the propane
That's nifty, I wasn't familiar with that.
The overland/off grid tax is strong with these units. You have to ask...is this a need or a want?
Regardless, keep them coming Donald, it is nice to know what is out there and available.
Honestly for me, these are neither need nor want. Neither seem fully thought through for the price, nor do they seem significantly faster or easier than what I'm doing currently - and my "kitchen" is more functional than either of these. I do like seeing clever new approaches - I wouldn't have thought of building a kitchen into a weatherproof tote for example - but for $1,800 I would expect the thing to practically cook dinner for me. :-)
Man...i was Excited about getting a Gladiator and doing some Overlanding..But the more stuff i look up the less i want to do it...1800$ for a plastic box with a water pump and a Faucet! lol..i like the idea! it's neat! But for 1800$ hard!! pass!!!
I noticed They left a comment about how its not possible to make something like this for less...
AT Most 500$ in parts..i'll even give you 200$ in labor..700$ oh k..not too bad..but...1800$ Good luck! hope people buy it
1800 bucks for a case, water pump/faucet, a quick connect, a 1 burner stove and some utensils? Good for them if they sell at that price...I guess
1:05 - nice reggae music in the background
Haha, I was a little worried that CZcams would snag me on that actually. Their automated systems are pretty good at detecting published, copyrighted music. I have to be careful with what bleeds into my audio. :-)
$1,800?!!! Who are they kidding?
Man those are spendy! That 2nd one is basically 80/20 and drawer slides! Something like that would be a rad DIY though, if it was useful to your setup and organization.
Of course I had no idea what the price of these was when I saw them, but now that I know, yeah...these are DIY inspiration only. :-)
lol at that price are you kidding me. that's insane $1700 and $100
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Damn, and I felt guilty for spending $200 on my Camp Chef Rainier 2x 😂😂
Right?? I'm certain your Camp Chef Rainier performs better than either of the stove solutions presented here. And I bet you have two functioning burners with a single hookup. :-)
So dang expensive $$$
Wayyy too expensive for prepping, cooking and cleaning for maybe in an hour's time??? Crazy.
Cool but way too expensive for me.
trail kitchen is better option still
This is why Kickstarters work and trade shows don't.
Overpriced, under specced, and without the lifespan needed for the corp to take care of their own products long-term.
That price is insane, way away from the reality of what people will pay. I have a collapsible table, my cook stove, a water jug, and a tub for dishes, and it's all like 450 bucks. It's $1350 more to get the same functionality and I have to set it on the ground... still need the table... Only way this product will make it if it has value which it does not.
It's kind of stupid because you're the part with the water hose and with a little wand thing why did they not simply make a hole there and then what you do is that tube instead of taking it out and then we're all water comes out why they just keep the tube underneath where the sink was and then when you use it you pull it out you wash your hands and then when it's time to go you just simply turn the water off from the outside where it goes in the box and then you squeeze the handle for the water thing it drains the water out and then you just simply push the two back in the hole with the head on and they should on that box they should have made a recess area where that would go up in come on yet sometimes think outside the box and make your own box
The first one costs more than my oven, refrigerator, and dish washer at home. While the burner it uses is a butane stove that costs $20 from Walmart
Who is dumb enough to purchase that?
That is an excellent question. :-)
Coleman stove $25
Coleman table $45
I will give Walmart my $70.
For $1700 … I’ll pass! 😳
They really trying to charge 1800$ for a Chinese pelican box lmao
Silly gadgets.. Just pack a stove and cooking / eating stuff in a box and you’re done
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"overland" integrated kitchen systems/kits are hands down the biggest waste of money and space in almost every incarnation I've seen. Unless you have a larger vehicle or seperate camp/gear trailer to support a proper full slide out system, you are probably going to be better off creating your own modular setup with separate 2 burner stove (I use Cook Partner med 2 burner), a decent camping pot that you can nest a kettle inside of, a good quality folding frying pan, a carbon steel (not cast or aluminum) griddle matched to your stove. Nesting or collapsable camp plates and bowls and cups. etc. This stuff does not have to all be in one place in your rig in order to be well organized or easy to set up. A single smaller box or crate to organize the smaller stuff is usually enough (I have a used Pelican 1560 with DIY TrekPak dividers). A few key spots around the rest of your rig for things like stove/griddle/fuel. Absolutely no one needs a tiny built in sink with running water IN their kitchen kit! My DIY Pelican kit that cost maybe $200 -$300 to put together.
I agree completely. I'm doing more or less the same as you and have been actually happier with it than when I had my (DIY) slide-out kitchen in my previous rig. My Camp Chef Mountaineer stove sitting on my $35 fold-up table is a far more functional kitchen with ample prep & cooking space. :-)
No thanks. I’ll stick with my Coleman two burner and small crate with all my kitchen stuff in it for waaaaaay less money
Yep. :-)
First
@pal,
The 'first' volunteers to dig the latrine.
Thanks!
Are these people serious? For $1800 you can buy a top of line or commercial range and stove. You could furnish your whole kitchen with appliances. I was going to give them some criticism but after seeing the price these guys can go to hell. It's an overpriced toolbox with a $40 pump with a single burner. They couldn't even invest in a quality burner. Those guys are a joke. Overland market has become a market for idiots who like to drop brand names and spend money. These products and companies prove it.
If it’s so easy to fold down, why didn’t he demonstrate it. Seemed a tad reluctant to show you that which tells me it’s BS.
All over priced when you need to jump hoops to get prices😒
boy this is a rich person sport now lol
Texas is a 10000000000000 times better
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