How to dispose of human waste (poop and pee) after a disaster
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- After a disaster hits your area, what would you do with your urine and feces if you live in an urban / suburban environment and simply putting your excrement in a hole in the ground is not an option?
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City Prepping living on homestead allows for compost bin for human waste. this is seperate from reg compost pile and must be allowed to cook hot, and not used for 1.5 -2 yrs. then use as reg compost. Love the Lugable Loo use it camping back woods. ty great topic. God Bless, Shalom.
City Prepping Thanks again!! impressive your very talented.
+Carlos Borges thanks for the kind words and thanks for the video suggestion...great idea for a video and something that is very overlooked.
We have a Coleman camp toilet. you add a bit of chemical to it which breaks down the waste which then can be taken to a disposal point & dumped. I have also used systems similar to yours & used digging long drop holes when I was young. Burying your waste is still the safest option IMO. As a plumber who specialises in on site sewerage disposal systems essentially this is what they all do after treatment.
The Earth is designed to break down our waste if we don't go throwing antibacterial all over it.
City Prepping My Grandmother, who was raised on a farm without running water told me; in the outhouse they used lime and or ashes to sprinkle on top of the waste....so an ad-hoc latrine with some lime should Doo!!! 😎
In the depression era they had pee pots and put a little vegetable oil in it, which rose to the top and kept the smell down.
That’s a similar way that a septic tank works.
@@cbass2755 pooping wasn’t invented until 1957.
What about the ammonia in the pee getting in the air
@@andrewp146 lol, that's funny
Good idea. I'll try vegetable oil.
As a matter of hygiene I highly recommend putting the the pool noodle under the plastic, otherwise it's a sponge for germs :)
Then the pool noodle is useless
Teja Lee
still is a cusion under the trash bag
This video is useless shit...how do I dispose of it
@@mwint1982 Out the window
By putting the noodle on the bucket then putting the bag in it keeps the noodle on the outside of the bag and away from any germs, if you use the noodle to clip the bag on then it's on the inside of the bag and more vulnerable to contamination.
You should probably keep enough water in toilets to maintain a water trap. This prevents sewer gases from entering home.
what is a water trap?
@@Freeyourself206 Of you look at a side section view of a toilet, you'll see the drain from the bowl makes an S-shape bend. That's your water trap. It maintains enough water in the drain to prevent sewer gases from coming up and escaping.
@ what is the evaporation time?
@@AFFI909 typically of the two sides exposed to air, the one exposed to the toilet bowl will experience evaporation. The side of the track face to the inside of the sewer line is typically at high humidity and will not suffer a lot of evaporation loss. The typical time it takes to reduce a water trap down will be a couple months.
If you want to go overboard, fill the trap with mineral oil which doesn't evaporate. A gallon?
Pine pellets for horse stalls works perfectly! Put a cupful in the bottom of the bucket, line the bucket with 2 bags. The bottom one remains and the top one is changed out as needed. Once the bags are in place add another cup of pellets. Each time the toilet is used add a cup of pellets. Never let the bucket get more than half full. Pull out the inner bag and dispose of it. Having two bags keeps the bucket clean and also makes removing the waste bag easier. Put in a new bag, add pellets and you are set. Sanitary disposal is crucial. I use this method when camping to avoid leaving the tent during the night.
Thanks
Extremely important to know, If you want to keep foul odor from building, ALWAYS keep urine AWAY from the feces. Forget chemical additives. To replace the action of flushing, keep a second bucket with something dry to cover the feces (less than a cupful is sufficient). Save the empty apple juice container for your urine. (This is the cause of odor). Oh yes, we ladies may need a funnel-type device with the bottle. I have been living with a dry toilet for 4 years and the only odor problem is when urine is mixed with poo.
Kate Wizer Youvare correct about the mixture.. I expermented with separateing it.. big difference.. hardly no smeal at all..
So what I hear you saying is that your poo does not stink.
Danafondo LMBO.. It smells like roses...
@@carolynsparks3164 Roses really smell like poo
It's true that it's a good idea to separate your urine. But it seems one has to keep that urine somewhere in bottles. I always have bags of horse pellet pine bedding around though for the cats. And people say that while my house SHOULD smell bad, it doesn't. They also sell these ammonia granules for stalls you mix in with the pine pellets and people like to use those for other pets besides horses too. That should also work for humans.
Good start.. In addition to the sawdust (even 'makable' in urban enviros..) save all ash / charcoal from any wood fires you make.. Excellent 'odor eaters'...
TheSleeperMustAwaken 👍👍👍👍👍
I’ll go in my neighbors yard. They already let their dogs go in mine.
loool good one brilliant idea muhahhaha
I knew these comments would be risky (since I don't curse) but I need good idea's that this bloke may not know.
@Cogzed I like your idea, it happened to me a lot, too. (the dog)They owe me! Or it's the pound for that dog!
Relatable
sounds like a great way to get shot
A very important, often overlooked topic. My order of importance is:
1. Safety
2. Water
3. SANITATION
4. Food
(Medical/Prescription care goes somewhere near the top, but is hard to quantify like the others.)
And so on. As you can see I consider sanitation more important than food. It will kill you faster.
P.S. Those wide mouth gatorade bottles are very handy for us men.
P.P.S. Stocking up on generic immodium is part of sanitation.
4 levels of decontamination
1)sanitation
2)disinfection ,
3)hospital grade disinfection
4) Sterilization
During the start of Covid, our plumbing broke & we couldn't get a plumber to come fix it for 3 weeks! So, I used a wooden board over the top of my bathtub & butted it up against the wall, in the middle of the tub. Then I put a small trash can under it, and I strategically placed it to catch the waste. I double-lined the trash can with small grocery bags. I used old, wadded-up, newspapers to absorb the urine. It worked really well. Make sure the wood is wide enough to be comfortable when you sit on it, and thick enough to hold your weight, and that its not going to slide around when your on it. And make sure you don't have any holes in the bags either! Haha!
Thank you C.P.! You are helping us all so much!
Smart, wish I'd thought of it during "Snowmageddon "!
For any City Dwellers (I've spent a bit of time living in cities...) it would be good to spend a little time camping. I don't mean hiking ten miles from a parking lot/trail head. You can learn a lot just pitching a tent a few yards from where you parked. Just a few days at a time will be a good start. Carrying your own water and food and sleeping bags; setting up tents, heating water for coffee, cooking simple meals with some sort of camp stove... If nothing else, this will give you a new appreciation for the conveniences of urban life - the easy availability of things we take for granted, like hot water and toilets without critters, and electricity. What the Heck? You might even learn to like camping and getting away from some things about city life that can rub your last raw nerve... Any how, it helped me learn to distinguish between essentials and luxuries.
This is a very important point. After going without services for a couple of weeks, skill acquisition is more important than accumulation. Waste sanitation, like this video, is a good example.
1. Have you scouted local water sources and learned how to purify?
2. You can even "camp" at home. Survive a week at home foraging/hunting locally for all food and water, using no more than a bicycle. Use the sanitation in this video.
3. Have you taken a first aid course?
This is good advice for those physically able to do so. I used to camp and hike when younger but now that we are both in wheelchairs, that part of our life is long gone. We live in a wheelchair accessible apartment now and rely on maintenance to even dispose of our regular garbage as the area where the garbage dumpsters for our apartment complex are is not wheelchair accessible. They decided it would be cheaper for them to have maintenance take out our garbage once a week rather than make the dumpster area wheelchair accessible. Yes, major issue for us if there is a serious emergency and maintenance is no longer here ..
I agree. I think backpacking teaches a lot of skills
I like this idea. My family camped at least 2 weeks every summer as a kid. Cool idea.
@@doreenplatt3873 First, I would like to say thank you for love of cat's. I have 2. Therefore, we can stock up on kitty litter and everyone stays clean and healthy.
Never take the water out of the bowl of the toilet.
Taking the water out thus eliminating the protection of the toilet's trap all sorts of nasty bugs, bacteria, viruses and even rodents can enter your home via this route.
Not to mention the smell will not be pleasant.
areUaware Interesting you mention this. It reminds me of the college town where I used to live. Over the holidays with students gone the water level would go down. A friend of mine had to fight to keep the toilet lid down in the bathroom when a rat tried to come up from the sewer.
areUaware, thanks!
areUaware, great point! Thank you!
areUaware. Rats come through the Water- no matter the Level. Have you ever took a toilet off and replaced it? Does not sound like you have.....Your an Idiot. All you have to do for the Smell is stuff a rag in the Stack (not to far) Viruses and Bacteria? Do not Lick your Hand - Go fuckin wash them. You have never had to clean out a Catch Basin ? Do NOT buy a House. Fuckin Sissy!!!
KQX571 lol
As a lifetime trucker, I kept the folding campers toilet in the tractor for roadside issues, also a bottle for urine, after arriving I'd take the doubled up trash bag and put in the nearest garbage can along with the jug, sometimes I'd empty the jug and rinse then put some propyl alcohol in it and shake then dump. I carried hand soap and rolls of T.P. in plastic bags. Sometimes the nearest toilet was 20 miles away or it's snowing/raining/freezing or simply no facilities available. Hope this helps.
Good points!
Merry Christmas
Thank you for keeping america running. Or where ever you're from.
Not familiar with folding camp toilet.
Will ask trucker brother about those.
Trucker bombs ....poopin in a bag .....💩
We have a Nature's Head composting toilet that we use in our guest house. The urine and feces are collected in separate containers. We empty the urine into our toilet and we use the peat/feces mix in a section of our garden as compost for ornamental flowers only. The toilet has a small fan that blows into the feces container and out through venting tubing and we have never had any smell or problems.
Awe
Just crap in a lg. envelope, and send it off to DC. They're all full of it anyway.
Best idea yet, Why wait?
trash compactor bags are very thick and relatively cheap and a perfect size for 5 gallon buckets
Thank you!
For that 5 gallon bucket - you can actually buy a heavy plastic toilet seat with lid from Emergency Essentials! I bought the bucket (toilet), lid and items it came with - awesome to have...just in case.
This is the first video I've seen that covers this important topic.
For those in apartments, who don't have access to a lot of dirt, some cedar shavings might be a good idea to keep on hand. Walmart sells Pet's Pick Cedar Bedding, 5.0 cu ft for about 6 bucks.
Menards has very fine pine shavings for a similar price. I use them for my birds and they are more absorbent than the cedar.
@@YSLRD cedar does a better job hiding odors. We have tried cedar, pine, cypress mulches, cheap and fancy kitty litter in the porta-loo at the hunting camp and cedar did the best job of keeping smell to a minimum.
or go to a farm supply store and get horse bedding for way cheaper...
Also, the dollar store has kitty litter. That works! But for best odor control in the home. Get pellet stove pellets. Mostly pine, it absorbs liquids and odors. We had to use our toilet bucket when the regular one had problems. Worked great until the plumber arrived.
Baking soda is suppose to be an option.
This is why a composting toilet is on my list of prep items.
I put my pee in my compost bin.
Thank you for this video. I am one of those that thought about (and prepared) for water and food. Never even thought about human waste.
Me either! Hope I am not forgetting anything else important!
The camp toilet kid with a five gallon bucket with a composting system can be used for years with no problems. Minimal smell and has the added benefit of being useable for growing food in a long term survival situation. It does have to compost for at least a year (preferably two) but it does work. A flow through compost would be best to allow the finished compost to be harvested from the bottom while more recent deposits added to the top.
Awesome. Too few people think of this problem. Thanks for doing it. When there was an ice storm in Canada in 1998 and folks were without electricity for up to 3 weeks, they were also without working toilets.
@2:18 digging a 6 foot hole with a post hole digger will work even in a small yard. Cover the hole with a bucket after dumping solid and wet waste in it. When it fills up, cover with a stone to mark it, and dirt. Then dig on the other side of the yard for the next spot. I would think a single hole should last 5 people for a few weeks.
I have in-laws living off grid. They use a composting toilet year round and take the feces/urine/straw mix to their outside compost pile. Works great and their bathroom simply smells like fresh straw. Pretty slick actually...and the resultant "humanure" compost makes their garden grow really well.
Max McHugh Has
I bought a Nature’s Head composting toilet several years ago to go off grid camping. It is awesome but you have to use coconut hair (found in most pet stores) to mix in with the poo. There is never any foul odor and you use the compost to put in your garden. The urine can be water for plants. If interested, look up Nature’s Head on internet. I highly recommend, it’s great and we can use our HEAD about 10 days before having to dump. Never any odor but you need a supply of coconut hair. Good luck all and be prepared!
As always...great info on things we don't think about while prepping.
I have a Thetford port a potty and really like it. I used to camp out on some land that I owned in CO for about 2 months every year and used it for poop. I peed in the bushes or side of a tree, whatever was handy. By myself the regular size one would contain about a week's worth of poop before needing to be emptied. It uses a chemical to break down the feces, but that doesn't cost much and goes a long ways. I kept it in the vestibule of my tent and never once had an issue with odor, even my Husky didn't pay any attention to it.
I grew up with no indoor plumbing. Take a bath outside, only running water was runnin git it. We had an outhouse. Never had to clean it out, and it never smelled. Keep a bucket of lime with a cup in the corner of your outhouse. After you do your business sprinkle a little bit of lime over it. The lime neutralizes poop and completely breaks it down.
Bonus tip: In cold weather keep the seat inside by your stove/heat source for a toasty and comfortable outhouse visit.
Good to know. Thank you
The suggestion for purchasing a large bucket is useful; however, more useful would be to simply purchase a portable bedside commode permitting “normal” seating at a reasonable height. One could then pack it up like you did in case of shtf. Then, following your suggestions for lining the bucket with 3 ml plastic and covering one’s “business” with dirt etc should be followed. When one has elderly in the house or other sickly people, bedside commodes are the norm anyway. These can be purchased at any drugstore that has home health aids. The cost is nominal compared to some of the options discussed. I pray we never need it, but we have one and it is the best choice for our circumstances. God Bless All!
That’s what I use 👍
First of all, do NOT ever use “Hefty” trash bags. Even the ones labeled “super strong” LEAK. You MUST purchase 2-3 ml THICKNESS trash bags that you can buy at Smart & Final. Three millimeters thick is the best type. Then, DOUBLE-LINE a strong plastic pail bucket or else a 4-gallon strong oval bucket at The Container Store. Many people have to flee or evacuate in the car seconds in an emergency, so keep this stocked bucket/supply in your car. You MUST double-bag also in any case of bleeding.
If you are simply voiding, you can use this system several times. Keep it simple. Don’t add more weight with dirt, etc. Toss out waste regularly.
Bacteria love moist environments so keep yourself as dry as possible.
If you have to go #2, then tie the double-bag in a tight knot and dispose of it. Then start anew. Wear Nitrile gloves & clean the bucket clean with Soil-U-Love which has ammonia in it. This system works extremely well.
Keep rubbing alcohol near the toilet area to disinfect your hands. This works especially well in triple-digit heat.
A female is going to go through tons more toilet paper than a male. So buy Scott’s toilet paper which lasts tons longer.
If you have a fever or if your skin is sweating, dirty or itches (because there’s a lack of water & you couldn’t readily shower or bathe), use Rubbing Alcohol to take a bird bath. It also lowers a fever. Put dry shampoo spray in your kit.
Keep Wet Ones in your kit & Bounty paper towels.
Keep Hydrogen Peroxide in your kit in case you have a cut. Pour this directly over the cut and then apply Neomycin ointment.
Also, in an emergency, do not consume anything that might make you sick. Or that might break a tooth (hard candy, etc.). Pack cans of green beans, pears & peaches because in emergencies, because there might be a shortage of potable water, people get constipated, so pack Magnesium 250 mg. and Flaxseed oil capsules.
Pack as many small amounts of single-dose protein sources that you can find: peanut butter; trail mix; tuna cups, salmon, canned tuna/chicken & tons of canned soups (lentil soup; split pea; Chicken Noodle; Chicken & Rice; Minestrone), etc.. Flip tops are important. A STURDY can opener is CRUCIAL (like OXO brand). Also, pack STURDY plastic spoons. Avoid types of foods that will smell (onions, sardines, etc.) if it spills in your car, etc. Pack a backpack w/ these crucial food items already in it.
Keep as dry as possible.
Pack anti-mosquito cream + spray! This is CRUCIAL in emergencies!
Pack pumice to clean your feet.
Pack Bengay or Aspercreme because you might be walking far.
Pack ankle-high support shoes that are worn in so that you don’t get blisters. Pack moleskin.
Pack a headlamp flashlight and lantern flashlights. Pack batteries & Scotch tape the AM radio channel on 1070 (if you’re in Los Angeles). Pack respiratory masks, Visine, throat lozenges. Invest in air purifier machines in case of wildfires.
Fill your car up w/ gas immediately & withdraw as much cash as possible. Evacuate children, the elderly and animals as soon as possible. Pack a map because GPS goes out.
Do NOT light matches in case there’s a gas leak.
Great info!! Thanks so much for sharing.
I was in Christchurch for the larger earthquake in February. Considering the city had experienced another months earlier, I was surprised at how unprepared they were. But, from what I understood, the first one weakened a lot of infrastructure, then the one in February did the weakened ones in. For example, my family and I were living in the older portion of the city, I discovered that the water as well as a fair bit of sewage pipes were so old, they were made of clay. Granted hardened clay is pretty tough, but not good enough. We had no water, power or sewage for at least a month, I think power came on about 2 weeks, water was a good 2 months and we discovered the sewage was unfixable. The house was a rental with a good size yard and pear mature pear tree. The city provided chemical/waterless toilets. But after trying it, we determined it was a nightmare and would use it as a backup. I dug a very deep hole in the far back, it was a long drop. I got a seat and every day I put down a layer of lime, and after every use as well. Every couple days I tossed in soil to cover and then lime and began again. We had inspectors out, I didn't meet them, but they said everything was good. We began using water, which was coming through clean after a bit and sewage. The day before we moved I was checking around the house, checking for aftershock damage and noticed a lot of stuff under the house, under where the bathroom and toilet was. The house was on piles, a foot or so up. This is when I discovered everything we'd been putting down the drain and in the toilet was going under the house. The pipes must've filled and backed up, pushing everything out under the house, for I don't know how long. We moved out of that area the next day. Be prepared people, that includes a toilet and just because you live in an apartment and don't use it, don't think others won't. I was prepared for the quake, but not nearly well enough and I'm glad it happened in the Summer, not winter.
David Holland .
Wow
I would add sticky flypaper rolls. They get the small ones as well, diminishing the spread of germs, fecal matter etc.
With minimal investigation, most of us can quickly and easily determine the process by which our waste is delivered to our local processing facility. Depending greatly upon distance, gravity alone is seldom employed. More often than not, waste will pass through a series of elevator pumps before reaching its destination.
With that in mind, try to envision how many single family dwellings are making use of each line. Not to mention hotels, hospitals, and apartment buildings that may be as well. If those pumps go down, those lines will quickly back up. Do not underestimate people's ability to procure "flush water" even after the municipal supply has been interrupted.
Now this is where we have a problem. There are no check valves that allow for "one way" travel of waste water between your home and the sewer system. Good time to live on the top floor or on a hill. Low lying homes could find themselves flooded with a foot of waste water and waterborne waste overnight. In that regard, it is not only your waste you may have to contend with. Again, quickly and easily leaving your home unlivable by any standard or metric. Depending upon your particular location, this could take hours or weeks.....or never happen at all....but it is very possible.
Not that it is officially recommended as it could contribute to a blockage under normal use, I have installed a 4" ball valve on my main sewer line as it leaves my suburban home. As well as additional clean-outs for its maintenance. That valve will keep the city out of my home. After two years of use, it has yet to cause a problem. However, this buys me very little time as the homes around me could soon become health and safety hazards by proximity.
If the municipal sewer system goes down for an extended time of SHTF proportions, ...leave. It's that simple. Even after the crisis has ended it could take cities and towns days or weeks to get the lines cleared and functioning again. Many homes could easily find themselves beyond the capacity of a remediation service to ever again make safe for human occupation. And given that such services are not likely to be available during or even after a true SHTF scenario, your options are few.
This is one area where we are most vulnerable in regards to a tenable urban and suburban bug in. I rank it equal in risk to that of civil disturbance, crime, and general chaos associated with a societal collapse. Hitting the fan is one thing. Hitting your ankles is where I draw the line.
excellent point. i thought a lot about this while making the video but didn't bring this point up in the video (and in retrospect I should have).
>> I have installed a 4" ball valve on my main sewer line as it leaves my suburban home.
I also thought about doing this as well, but admittedly am too lazy to dig down and mess with my sewer line. Fortunately we're not at the bottom of the hill in our development but not on the top either. i was in a RV park years ago and at the bottom of the hill, the sewer line got plugged and the RV at the bottom of the hill was surrounded by sewage backup (truly a disturbing sight).
I think in light of your comment I'm going to give serious consideration to having that installed on my sewage line. As you mentioned as well, the neighbor's houses will be problematic if they have overflow (something else I'll have to consider).
Your house doesn't have a Palmer valve to avoid city sewer back up?
Great job Jamie!
Sadly, most don't think beyond their immediate issues of intake; food, water, etc.
Issues dealing with hygiene, first aid and sewer are not as attractive or icky to think about and tend to be put off. They may have planned for their own, but it is almost certain their neighbors haven't and therefore the potential for very big problems still exist where all good intentions get lost.
Thanks again brother.
Peace.
@@CityPrepping That is something I have never considered. Do you need a special permit to install one?
So live at the top of the hill, ✔
Honestly, invest in a few boxes of Rid-X and also make a couple gallon jugs of Lacto Bacillus stabilized with molasses for room temp storage. Very helpful stuff to have around. Also, keep more than one bucket so there is one to vomit in (just in case) that hasnt has shit in it.
Another great trick would be used motor oil. Keep a few gallons around. Keep a third bucket strictly for urine, and just put about a quart of used oil in it. Pee freely until full, it is all contained by the motor oil floating on top.
I guess there was a comment left for me about this but they pulled it down. Maybe they got some education.
*Kathy Childress Wrote*
"Raul Duke where is this oil going when you don't need it anymore? I've heard some shit before but my god"
Well to answer that question....does it really matter? In a grid down situation where are u gonna put yours? Where ever you want, i guess. Put a lid on the bucket and put it somewhere until sewage system is up and running and then pour it down. On the chance that the sewage is not restored i believe a couple quarts of motor oil mixed with piss in a bucket is probably going to be the least of your problems.
Thank you for the information. Here's a tip: try not to get antibacterial soap because most contain a chemical called triclosan. The chemical can lead to super bugs down the road. Great video though!
Thank you, thade Splatter, this is information that is over looked and dare I say 'hidden'. I hate "antibacterial' anything, just the smell of it when someone thinks their hands are "clean" after using it makes me ill.
thade Splatter Hallelujah!!🦠🧼🧫🧻🦠🚽🧪🧴 So glad someone addressed this issue! This bothers me so much! It’s been proven that the stronger super bacteria can return to its original, normal type when we go back to using things that don’t contain triclosan or triclocarbon, or whatever ingredient they are currently using.
I’ve seen dish soap liquid containing lactic acid as an antibacterial ingredient recently and I’m wondering if this will be a safer/healthier alternative.
You forgot one thing son , I have in the past lived off grid with my eyes in a tow behind trailer with no water or electricity for 6 years .. we used a 5 gallon bucket , and what we did to help with the poo and urine was purchased a bag of powdered lime and a bag of powdered lye. Using this about a half cup of each helps break down the solids and I would add about a cup and a half of sand . this mixture is safe to bury when you get to a place where you can do so . Charcoal also will deodorize the Paul as would a half cup of baking soda
Definitely noted! Ty
Where do yoi get lime or lye ive heard of lime used for dog poo in a hole
Edwin Dickey so what do you pee in?
in 40's used outhouse. lime was always used by parents. we survived. 7 kids. no inside john for awhile
Stock up on cat litter and garbage bags. 😊
thealize808
I think it would have to be the clay type, in order to absorb. The regular type doesn't absorb very well. The urine just goes to the bottom. .
Wood. Saw dust pellets. Absorbs anything, and it can be burned or used for making compost.
I Totally agree with that...it works for cats...why can't it work for human.
Make or buy a camping toilet. Bags and cat litter.
@@foodandhomeprep8425 buy a porta potty from medical supply. Buy bags too. Stock up on kitty litter , have a good shoval.
Have more than one option..
Excellent! Composting toilet makes the most sense for us...on the very edge of suburbia but I would think an incinerating toilet may be worth looking into for city dwellers. That said, most prepping city dwellers will not stay put once the mayhem begins and essentials will be all they'll be able to carry. Godspeed!
THANK you for remembering the sanitary napkins for those in your household who menstruate! That's something so many preppers completely neglect!
(If any guy wants to complain, just shut it. For one, they might make outstanding bandages for large injuries, but mostly you're not being an ignoramus when you have them on hand. In fact, you're being a hero. Menstruation happens, & it won't go away no matter how hard you stick your fingers in your ears and shout "LALALALALAAA" so deal with it.)
I am thankfully no longer troubled by this issue but I have packets of sanitary napkins and even tampons in my First Aid Box to be used as bandages or even to use as barter items. No one really relishes the thought of hand washing cloth strips...
another women telling all men to shut up. You might want to practice a little 'quiet time' as well woman.
If YOU got the Gash......YOU make the Stash!
My wife has been defused. It is a non bleeding free fire zone😉😁. But still have pads/pons in storage and a lot of TP too. Good barter items.👍
Menstrual cup?
A few years ago I used an antique chamber pot when I lived in my grandparents house without water. It was a beautiful piece of furniture. Don't laugh..I used it for a year and a half. No one knew I had no toilet. It can be done and I'm proud I know how. Thank for you video.
Truefuly composting is the answer.
I want to add, if you can separate your urine from your poop, using a jug and a funnel, for example, you cut way down on the weight and smell of your sawdust embedded poop. Urine is antiseptic, and makes a wonderful fertilizer for potted plants, when diluted to 10%. Mix with gray water so you preserve your drinking water. Grow your own food on your window sill, or wherever there’s some light.
If you live in a skyscraper city and there's no sewage, GTFO while you can
Going medieval and chucking it out the windows 50 stories up oh yeah!
@@Barskor1 Not quite, but I did face this extreme situation once when a hurricane knocked out the cold water supply and over flooded the sewage plants. The development had two swimming pool, which I retreated to clean the water (better). We went to Home Depot and bought every 5 gallon bucket they had. This action serviced 950 units in 3 10 story mid-rises. The set up was like an Army Mash Camp with supplies, and teams of enforcers of what to do, when to do. Families were put in a queue, got their 5 gal of water, then the next,...everybody suffered equally, and not one compliant! Other properties around us were having to go MedEvil. We had no electricity either. We bought 500 2 gallon bucket which we filled with cheap flashlight, candles, etc. It all worked out! When there's no place to fall back to, take the cleaner water, cook little, flush the toilets a lot..
@@johnshields9110 Excellent work!
@AllGuts NoGlory Indeed they would but if I was actually in that situation without the assistance of the wonderful John Shields I would probably just move out or start a compost toilet and solar water distillery don't ask where I would get the water...
You can also go to a medical supply and get a hospital beside toilet for about $30. Put a plastic bag in it along with pine shavings that you can buy at bulk from a pet store supply place and remember to keep your urine and poop separate. People who lived of nomadic lifestyle in their vehicles do this all the time with a bucket like you showed and a lid. The upside hospital bedside commode is that it comes with a sealed cover that you can put on the top of it when not in use that helps keep odor down. I was given one when I was in the hospital that my insurance paid for and so when I was discharged I took it home with me. The bucket is removable and the frame is completely collapsible. The reason I decided to keep it instead of letting them throw it away was I was being billed for it anyhow and it would work in a grid down situation.
Excellent. A topic that is so often overlooked and so important.
Poop and pee could be managed better if separated by having two potties.
Put a little dirt or sawdust over each poop to keep the odor and flies off of it. Pour the pee into whatever jugs you can find. Let it age for a month and mix it with 4 parts water and use it for fertilizer
On your plants. Its too valuable to throw away. The poop and dirt can be aged a year and put around trees or spread on fields.
John Davis
This topic might be my biggest concern for the period of time immediately after SHTF
We bought a bucket/toilet w/lid and put into our storm shelter in case of tornado and we're trapped. It serves as seat also. We use kitty litter in bag lining the bucket. You never know if your town gets wiped out, how long you'll be in there.
Thanks for the video that everyone needs to know.
"taking the browns to the superbowl" omg, i cracked up.
i think you're the first to catch that or at least first to comment about it ;)
Raccoon Eyes I got the reference. 😂
Raccoon Eyes I prefer dropping the kids off at the pool
Dumping the Cosby kids 💩💩💩💩
Compost toilets have been used for boating for many years are are well proven. You can use peat moss, comcour or coconut Fiber or sawdust. They don’t smell if changed every 2-3 weeks depending on how often two people go.
Brilliant subject and detailed information . Very informative and extremely valuable information. Living in California where the next big earthquake can hit any time. It's good to be prepared. Thanks for the video. Well done.
+George Ruiz thanks...glad you enjoyed it! I too am in California and trying to get my house in order.
@G H Oh, pipe down, G H! The citizens of CA are predominately decent folk! The main-stream media
just likes to report on the pitiful homeless who live on the streets.
Ask any tent camper who has a luggable loo. You can survive with relative comfort for weeks with just a Luggable Loo and its bags. Having a thick yard bag that you can use as a depository (double bag system) works really well.
Create a box with a 5 gallon bucket and a funnel in the front with a hose that leads to another 5 gallon bucket next to it separate your pee and poop and put dirt or anything you can find over the poop if you can find Sawdust you're doing really good peat moss works well is called a composting toilet
one of my 11 year old twins has been training for this for years - he sometimes just goes off the deck and pees in the flower bed - now i know why those flowers are brighter color- need to start aiming for garden
Don't eat the peepee veg though. Make sure to have him fertilize the garden before veggies sprout!!😉
Why not build an outhouse? It suited our ancestors just fine.
not in an apartment or urban areas unfortunately
Won't work in a city. In a suburb, you probably can't build one legally, so you'd have to wait until SHTF before building one.
And while our ancestors did use them, they also died of cholera and other diseases.
Baruch Ben-David grew up with out house and no running water. Pumped water from the well. Still alive at 65 with a good immune system.
ByEveryWordOfGod A lot of people living in apartments in inner cities, no land to build outhouses on.
@@ellalarkin1016 well find a city park and dig a hole there it also may help others!!!
There is a major danger in sealing up the garbage bag. Because there will be a methane build up; the bag will need to have a few holes punched into it otherwise the methane will explode into a fire. It’s only simple physics. Also, I lived in an area that had no sewage for many years. My grandparents dug a 4 or 6 foot hole in the ground and built an outhouse with a clean toilet seat to fit the hole and a screened in ventilation by the side of the roof. Yes it stunk, but a slop pot was used in the middle of the night and emptied in the morning. The well was not near a run-off so we were safe. My grandmother boiled the water just to be safe and stored with a lid in a cellar under the house.
Luggable Loo is a great product for camping and emergency. Works great and is simple to use. Double doodie bags are sealable and have deodorant.
Use a shovel to dig a hole & cover when ur done
YOU CAN HAUL IT AROUND WITH A LORRY HUH? OR PARK ON THE ROUNDABOUT OR CAR PARK.. MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH SHIT THE MAKE IN A DAY UNTIL....MY PLANT USED TO HANDLE 60 MILLION GALLONS A DAY FULL TREATMENT AND 400 PARTIAL FOR A TOTAL OF 100 MIL GALLONS THROUGH THE PLANT FULL PARTIAL....IN A RAINY MARCH( 1980) WE CALIBRATED THE FLOW AT 320 MILLION A DAY BEFORE THE BYPASS WHICH BYPASSED 220 A DAY MIL GAL A DAY DIRECTLY TO THE CREEK BECAUSE MORE THAT THE 60./100 WOULD HAVE INUNDATED THE PLANT AND DESTROYED IT WIT SO MUCH OF THE ELECTRICAL AND PIPES UNDERGROUND. LEAKS IN THE 7 FOOOT TRUNK INE THAT SOANNED THE ELNGTH OF TOWWN ALLOWED SO MUCH WATER TO ENTER HENCE THE 320 MILL A GREAT DEAL OF DIULTUIN AND THAT 'S GOOD BUT SEWAGE IS MOSTL WATER ....THE CREEK A 15 MILE 40-50 FOOT WIDE CREEK FED ONE OF THE BIGGEST RIVER IN ALABAMA, WAS FULL OF WILDLIFE AND EVEN THE CHLORINE INJECTED AS IT EFT THE PLANT DIDN'T HURT IT CAUSE THE CREEL WATER WASN;T THAT DIRTY EXCEPT RUNOFF AND DRAINAGE ...FISH KINGFIHSRS, SNAPPING TURTLES GAR, MUSKRATS, MOUNTAIN LIONS ( OK 1 BUT IT WAS VERY REAL I FOUND AT 1 AM IN JULY 1979 AND LIVED IN TH WATERSHED BETWEEN THAT CREEK AND THE BIG RIVER 10 MILES AWAY.., BEAVERS AND THE CAT ATE SOMETHING ??...DUE TO THE DILUTION, THE EFFECT IF=S NOT AS BAD AS OU THINK...SEWAGE DES NOT SMELL LIKE DOD BUT DIRTY DISHWATER AND IS APP.68 DGEREES YR ROUN AND A SMART COOKIE COULD MAKE THEIR OWN GAS FROM IT WITH A LITTLE ADAPTATIO OF EQUIPMENT FOR HEAT, COOKING ETC....REMEMBER CHARCOAL TO "STRAIN OUT" CHEMICALS ..IMPORTANT YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN, SOME PATHOGENS, KEEP EVEN SMALLER PAPRTICULATES\OUT IN FINALK TREATMENT OF WATER TO DRINK SO YOU;D BETTER FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT OF PREP IT FROM CREEK EATER, POND WATER ETC.WADE CREEKS AND SEARCH FOR COLD FREHETS ENTERING WITH OUR TOES/FEET TO LOCATE SPRINGS WHICH MAY BE PRETY PURE ESPECIALLY IN SEMIROCKY PLACES WHERE THE CREEK HAS CCU TO THE ROCK....LEARN NOW...NO INTERNET AFTER SHTF....
The price of those bags though! Use the scented ultra flex garbage bags, baby diapers for absorbing liquid, and a Glade stickup nearby lol. You can put plastic grocery store bags inside of the strong ultra flex bag for extra layers too. A spray of Lysol liquid cleaner in bottom of bag also doesn't hurt to head off bacteria growth. Affordable hygienic camping 101😉
Lime is the best! It uses hydrated or slaked lime (calcium hydroxide: Ca(OH)2) as an additive to create a highly alkaline environment and thereby stabilise sludge from human waste. It thereby significantly reduces the risk of latrine sludge causing negative impacts on human health and the environment.
Good video as always. A few years ago we purchased 5-person (5GAL) SIP station kits (72-hr kits) for all of our 53 field offices and workforce. In the final phase of purchase I added the snap on toilet lid for the 5GAL buckets. My esteemed (non-prepper) colleagues were shocked that I would even think that our workforce would poop or pee in a 5GAL bucket in an office environment.
Poop in the neighbors yard, then convince him you saw a Sasquatch!
@ronald tyili I don't think that in a shtf situation their going to do a DNA test!!
@ronald tyili Sasquatch has more human DNA fyi
G. Fox
The stench of human feces is unmistakable.
@@JohnSmith-ox3gy And it tastes different.
BB's to the behind if you are lucky.
Couple things to consider...1)a simple composting toilet. bucket and straw, and yes it can actually be used in your garden. 2) Google Outhouse, and numerous plans will pop up. Have the necessary building needs on hand. A pit liner, pipe and fittings, screen mesh and a little wood. 3) Make sure you understand how to properly clean yourself afterwords...especially your hands! Good vid. You think like I do. ;)
We do not live in the ‘burbs, but we made and use a compost toilet that is our only toilet. We built a compost bin by the garden. We cover the excrement in the pail with pine sawdust. No smell. At all. After a year we have beautiful compost that we use in the vegetable garden.
Why would you take the water from the toilet bowl, now you have toxic sewage gasses pouring into your home...
FishFind3000 Not the bowl the tank
I think he said to take the water out of both.
You can also just buy a smaller toilet lid to go in top of your bucket. Although it won’t be a stable built in part, it will be easily removable to keep clean & easier for little ones to use if you still have younger kids in the house.
Glad I live in the middle of nowhere now
You must have great joy in whirlybirding outside.
Me too !
+wKathy Mayeda
Pissing off the Deck after a Beer, priceless 😃
My God this makes me so sad. Hope life never comes to this 😢
I was a missionary in the Salva, dig a whole and go. Also, in the city of Chiapas Mexico way back in the day; and they burned everything because it was legal. As far as showers its called make shift showers and pale buckets with the sun to warm this. Never had
disentary outbreak have happened in the Jungles or in the cities in Mexico.
Great content! Please address what to do further to block potential sewer backup in a residential situation when in a prolonged shelter in place scenario. Thanks
knowing how to make soap is important !!
yup
Ancil Cedeno
Don't you have to have lye to make soap? My Mom said she used to make lye soap. ..
YES you can make lye that is the important part you can make lye from wood Ash .
Ancil Cedeno I agree
I agree
👍😉Great advice! Question. Years ago; what was used to make "Outhouses" sanitary & effective? Thanks A Million!
Great video on a very unsexy topic. Everyone needs to know how to do this in a number of different waves. Sanitation should be at the top of everyone's prepping list. Thanks. 👍
thanks for the feedback and yes, it's not a subject that is often brought up but very important to cover as not having a plan in place can lead to all types of sanitation problems.
As someone with ocd I heavelly agree
@@CityPrepping From all of us in Farmville (Oklahoma) we thank you. Make us more vids when you have time or set up a patreon channel. Seriously! There are tons of people doing patreon who
live off grid, now. And you don't need a head covering.
It's more expensive and difficult to have efficient long-term septic, than it is to just ignore it.
Same problem with people trying to survive nuclear fallout. Unless your bunker is airtight with CO2 scrubber and O2 supply, you're DEAD (or you'll wish you were). Expensive and difficult, so no one talks about it.
waves?
Put the foam noodle on the bucket FIRST.. Then put the bag in the bucket and drape over the foam. It keep the foam clean, helps prevents the bag from tearing, and makes bag replacement easier.
True but when I go to wipe...I dont want a bag sticking to my checks
How to Poo when shit hits the fan! 😅
Jason Stackhouse. DUCK!
Jason Stackhouse no
cindybin The only person here freaking out is you. What's wrong with you?
Don't shit on your fan...lol
+cindybin2001 fuckin right
They have toilet assist for elderly - handle bars, rubber feet, open seat.
I have had for several years a hospital toilet you know those fold up by the bed type got it for $1.91 at the thrift store also the bucket that fits underneath it. Put in water, do your business and dispose of outside in a Lowes bucket. Eventually yes you will have to dispose of it we have containers of dirt so possibly use a bucket and layer it with dirt put the lid on it. It will compost for awhile we also have those old type trash cans metal with lids could bury it that way with kitty litter. I live in the city. Oh and if you are going to do the noodle bucket unless you are young and agile think that out how far down you would have to squat to do your business and maybe invest in cinder blocks or something for a more comfortable sitting position. Anna In Ohio.
I have well water and septic tank on my property.
Dont sit directly on the noodle. Put two garbage bags and run them up over the seat area. This way the seat stays clean and ready always for long term.
Lugaloo. $20, and stuff it in a closet with contractor bags filling the 5gal pail.
Wood Ash works pretty good at keeping the smells down too.
What a sensible and practical video! I must admit that I have not put much thought into this subject, but I can see that it is as critical an issue as food and water (well, maybe not quite), and must be consideredwhen planning for disaster. Again, thanks much for the vid and keep up the good work!
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Thank you! This is probably the most overlooked topic in prepping!
I learned that you should never mix #1 and #2. That you should #1 in one bucket and #2 in another one. once you have mixed it that is when we have a lot of problems. Also you should never bury #2 in a bag but empty it out and then put lime on top to make the animals not dig it up.
Simply green put into the poop bag after each deposit helps eliminate odors.
Simply Green?
If you live in a house find the vent in basement for sewage and prepare NOW to find a way to seal it off lest other peoples sewage could could back up and flood your basement. Be very careful burying waste any where near a well.
What if you have to bug in for months? What do you do with the waste, if you can't go outside for some reason. ex.. radiation, chemical warfare etc..
THIS!!!
I think a composting toilet would be best in that scenario. From reading up on it, separating urine from feces is the key to controlling the smell
If in a tower block or skyscraper, then sling it out window.
Another idea is stick it on a drone and fly it somewhere and dump the dumps then fly drone back....
"SEPARETT" brand Composting
Toilets are perfect for Prepping !
Im a new subscriber and have so far watched a few of your videos. You strike me as a very professional guy. Were you ever part of the armed forces of your country (US, I assume) or worked with them? If so, what branch, if not, what led you to do these videos?
I'm an avid hiker and hikers know how to dig catholes and where to dig them...Despite that, on my last section hike on the AT I found way too much toilet paper and wipes just laying on the ground, close to shelters, close to watering holes. Very sad. Even the experts don't like to follow the rules. Don't be so nasty. Dig a hole and bury it, toilet paper/wipes included. Very simple to do and cheap too.
Thank you (and my fellow CZcamsrs) for sharing the information you have. I learned how to be a grey man, try to protect my preps, and other valuable tips thanks to your videos. I cruised several prepping sites and yours was one. Had it not been for your information, I would not be prepared at all. I used the tips and started close to a year ago now. I slowed down some. Everything is flying off the shelves where I am. I tried to warn other people to no avail.
My biggest question that never seems to get answered in all my research seems to be what to do with liquid waste. As a general rule of thumb, I’ve been told mixing solid and liquid excrement not only expedites the spread of preventable diseases, but is the main form of contagion. Number one no no with urine is adding bleach as that’s a good way to make mustard gas on the cheap. I’ve read about vinegar being used for the removal of urine stains in carpet after 24 hours when the acid denatures into the air, but what if any tips do people have for the storage and disposal of liquid waste as most compost toilets or “luggable loos” focus primarily on the solid aspect of excrement management? Love the channel and thank you for covering this topic!
God bless you and your channel, seriously. Thank you!!! 💚
Elizabeth Cartagena you're welcome!
As a lazy trucker I avoid using public restrooms because it’s dirty to sit on and I don’t want to keep walking back and forth if I am having diarrhea that night. And a lot of times I have the urge but no bathrooms around. Here’s how I do it:
Water bottles for pee, use a new 4-5 gallon trash bags every time you poop, tie 1-2 knots after use and dispose it in a potato chips bag, ziplock bag or anything to keep the smell in until it’s full and then dispose it (Obviously a short term solution)
In SHTF situation you might not be able to take trash out every day nor every week, so it would be wise to have gamma sealed buckets to store the feces until you are ready to go out safely to dispose it. Just make sure you have air freshener ready because each time you open the bucket to place more poopy bags the smell would escape. When it comes to pee just make sure the container does not leak. Also, have cat litter at the bottom of the bucket where you poop in case your poop bag leaks and accident happens.
I have a compost toilet and it works well
I live in an apartment and got a Camco toilet bucket set with seat on Amazon and a few extra boxes of the toilet waste bags enough to last about 10 days. If you are also an apartment dweller there are the Lunderg toilet bowl liners that you can use with a conventional toilet. A small cost but one that could get you by if power and sewage is out for a few weeks.
What a crappy video... lol. Just kidding. A very important topic!
+Reality Survival haha...it is indeed crappy ;)
If you can't dispose of waste, urine big trouble.
Reality Survival & Prepping b
Yes we got it - play on words.
That's a really shitty thing to say
I had to do this recently when we had crazy rain which seemed to back up the sewer lines in our apartment building. Kitty litter is great because it helps to absorb the smells.
Toilets will need to be drained of the water and filled with dirt because toxic gases will form in the sewage lines and will come up through the toilets into the dwelling if toilets aren't sealed off. Dirt can easily be removed from toilet bowls when sewage system is restored.
How long would that take after the sewage systems are down?
Jason Stackhouse Friend works at a treatment facility and he said 3 to 8 days, depending on temperature and level of use prior to disruption.
@@daddydoesdyna9539 That depends on what brought the system down. Stay the course.
Peace.
thaxs for the info I have never thought of toxic gases being released into the air if not properly handled!
Consent to be governed withdrawn if you try to empty the water in the toilet during a disaster wouldn't the toxic gases still get into the air? so would it be better to just dump a bunch of dirt into the toilet filled with water or would it be better to just seal the toilet?
It would be good to know what FEMA recommends for waste disposal of human waste and and trash, under emergency conditions.
It absolutely horrifies me that people don't know how to deal with their shit and piss. And it's a big taboo to even talk about it. Shit and piss are not hard to deal with, but no one wants to learn.
Agree butt plugs always work very well.
It's easier to put a plastic or metal bowl under the toilet seat. You can pee by sitting on the toilet as usual. Do not put toilet paper in bowl. Take a plastic grocery bag and put it in a plastic bucket or waste basket and dispose of toilet paper here. If sewer line still works, you can pour pee in sink. Spray sink and bowl with disinfectant and put bowl back in toilet. If you have to poop, place a plastic grocery bag (no holes) in the bowl, do your business and also put toilet paper in bag, tie bag and place it in the same bag you use to toss other toilet paper. Dispose of full grocery bags by placing them in heavy duty garbage bags until they can be hauled away by garbage trucks. If it's a long term situation, you may have to bury or burn.
Urine: An upside down plastic paint pouring gadget anchored under the toilet seat will separate the urine so can be routed into an empty laundry detergent bottle (discreet, thick walled bottle with a tight fitting lid and lingering pleasant smell) Using gloves, pour from laundry detergent bottle to a filtering flask for distillation (requires heat) and/or electrolysis (requires electricity and electrodes)
Both methods neutralize pathogens. Distillation produces a small amount of pure water and minerals beneficial to healthy soil. You may not want to drink this water but you could water pets or plants with it. Electrolysis produces a combustible gas. This could be beneficial if you know what you're doing, otherwise it could be dangerous. Ventilation is advised, possibly a flash-back arrestor depending on your set up.
Feces: Collect in a biodegradable 'doggie bag' lined/layered with saw dust/peat moss. Tie off and place in an empty, clean quart paint can (buy at Lowes.) Nick the lid with a sharp knife to create a small vent, then char on a camp stove on balcony/deck/backyard or in your fireplace for 10-15 minutes. This chars the poo with an intense anaerobic heat. The charred poo can then be used as compost or as a fire-starter. This must be done daily. A pile of charred poo is much safer and easier to deal with that a week's worth of festering feces.
Keep paper towels and peroxide with a small amount of dish detergent on hand to clean up vomit/diarrhea/blood. These can be placed in a 'doggie bag' and charred too. If you're familiar with electrolysis, the electrolyzed water has special disinfecting properties, kind of like hydrogen peroxide... Solar power can be used for both distillation and electrolysis.
SaintTrinianz nice tips but what if you had no electricity? then what to do?
Hey guys and gals, a composting toilet is,what you just saw, a 5 gallon bucket and seat, saw dust, shredded paper or dirt. If you are interested in more I suggest you pick up the book "The Humanure Handbook". Highly recommend, very informative.
I’m watching this while on the toilet 🙃