Odin Sentence Loki - Thor: The Dark World (2013) Movie CLIP HD
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Odin, Loki and Hela are so much alike that i'm starting to think Thor is the adopted one
Exactly but at first Thor was also like that. Tomorrow episode 5 of Loki will be streaming I think Loki himself might be the villain or maybe Miss minutes.
Thor was like Odin in the first film.
@The Incredible Ayush Anand That's completely off topic but ok.
Why are they alike??
@@smarttech7970 But Thor was so easily changed...
Loki: it is my birthright
MCU: your birthright was to die multiple times
That was cold❄
@@ionutalexandru9710 lol nice frost giant pun
And not only the 3 times we see in the infinity saga, but the infinite amount of times as variant Lokis.
@@djssgss5889 don’t you mean ice frost giant pun
Thor 1: "died"
Avengers: "alive"
Thor: The Dark World: "died"
Thor: Ragnarok: "alive"
Avengers: Infinity War: "died"
Avengers: Endgame: "alive"
Loki (ep4): "died'
Loki (ep4 mid-credit scene): "alive"
this is just the asgardian version of "i feed you so i win the argument"
Honestly thought the same!
“I’m your dad, so shut up.” 🤣
@Ministry of Mystics Then what? I rot in a ditch? Either way, I'd be quite fucked.
@Ministry of Mystics If there’s no cosmic rule that says the leader should like his followers, then it stands to reason that there’s no rule that says the followers should appreciate the leader
Basically the same thing as "I can abuse you as much as I want because you live under my roof" doctrine.
I like how here, he literally has 10 guards on him for security but in the TVA, he only has 2 guards and literally complains he doesn’t have enough security.
Agent mobius: you just cant help yourself
well he can use his magic here while he can't use it in the TVA.. but I'm quite sure in Asgard those guards were just formality and/or strength demonstration
@@marco002 Loki definitely could have taken all those guards. The only one in that room that would have given him trouble, is Odin.
@@angelking3708 the same Loki who struggled in Loki against a random guy (even if he was controlled by Sylvie)?
@@marco002 Yes. Because he was clearly written better here than there.
“ *frigga is the only reason you’re still alive, and you will never see her again* “
Uhhh.... well, that age well huh
Odin had no idea how right he was
Frigga then proceeds to visit Loki quite often before dying.
Indeed it did.
I think he meant in person.
Honestly that was cruel of Odin to do that. Taking away the only person who truly understood him. Loki was literally a mama’s boy because she’s the only person he had growing up while everyone praised Thor.
Tom hiddleston's body language as Loki here is fantastic the way he was knocked a back slightly when he was told he would never see his mother again was brilliant.
I noticed that too. And the way he blinks his eye. Perfection in action.
Yeah, um, that was the chains
He loved his mom. The one honest thing about him.
Yeah his performance is so ecstatic
@@CorriganM08 before the chain pulls him back, the actor sways very subtly.
Wherever you go, there's war, ruin, and death:
*literally is sitting under a covered original roof describing the exact same thing with him throughout the nine realms before he had a change of heart*
i want a spinoff where Bor, Odin, Thor, Loki and Hela all meet in Valhalla and Bor goes "STOP YELLING AT THE KIDS!! YOU WERE A HUNDRED TIMES WORSE!".
Hela definitely dramatized odins warmongering, everything she said was from her perspective and she’s blood thirsty as all hell. Plus it’s likely he manipulated her in the same way he did with his other children.
@@jillbill7752 Hela is not really an unreliable narrator. The movie makes a point about it - she proves what she says by showing that Odin "painted" a new roof over the old one and basically erased all memory of his past actions.
She may have been somewhat exaggerating, sure, but it was the truth.
The "change of heart" bit is important, mate. And it was the changed Odin that raised Loki.
@Sara Sato What? Thor came out of Ragnarok stronger than he'd been in any of the other movies.
Even though this movie wasn't the best, Tom Hiddleston absolutely shined as Loki.
And Chris hemsworth as thor and anthony hopkins as odin
This movie was good
Like always
And Loki reduced to shit in the Disney+ series
@@nour2146 he's Gay now 😜😝🤣😄
You can see the hurt in Loki’s eyes…
You'll make that witless oaf King while i rot in chains
Shouldn’t have murdered so many innocents
@@dannyhuskerjay
To be fair, Odin's galactic conquests weren't exactly all that peaceful 😅
@@thalmoragent9344 doesn’t matter . Loki murdered a bunch of people and lost
@@dannyhuskerjay
Yeah, but is it OK to murder a bunch of people as long as you win?
Not saying Loki was in the right, he was in the wrong undoubtedly, but Odin himself had plenty a Conquest, alongside Hella, don't you remember? A life sentence in a cell... Loki has at least a thousand years to live, likely much more, that's a ridiculously long time mate, just saying.
"hello mother, have I made you proud?"
"Please don't make this look worse"
"Define WoRsE"
"Enough"
@@takhelchapraveenthebozz2660 why have made a mistake??
@@wondergaming2238 I just continuing the dialogue
@@takhelchapraveenthebozz2660 oh You scared me
@@wondergaming2238 no. why should I?
Loki is not wrong it is his birth right to rule he's the son of the frost giant king.
@Allfather King thor I didn't know that but still it's his birth right and when Odin said his birth right was to die as a child that was pretty mean and cruel to say.
@@Damienp3902 how do you not know that, it's literally the first exposition be gets
@dheeraj rao he lived as a freaking prince with all the great things in life most people can only dream of, the only thing he didn't have was the right to rule. At no other point does it show Odin being a bad parent per se. Only here he's finally spitting some hard truth, and that's because Loki went on a killing rampage, so it's perfectly justified.
@dheeraj rao That is not true. Odin gave him love and a whole life of privilege as a prince. He is not responsible for Loki's massive inferiority complex
@dheeraj rao "Just because he does mischief," like the time he stabbed Thor right? Soo mischievious, not at all malice huh?
Loki was NOT following Odin's policy. Because ever since the birth of Thor and Loki, Odin NEVER had any warmongering policies, he literally just wanted to have peace in the 9 realms. All his warmongering policies were during Hela's time, and neither Thor nor Loki were taught any of that, so you are making this up.
He tells them "A wise king never seeks war, but he must be ready for it" THAT was the policy he taught them.
And there is nothing wrong with wanting to rule, IF IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO ASCEND THE THRONE. It was Thor's birthright to ascend the Asgardian Throne, so it's perfectly fine if he was happy about it, he WAS going to be King after all. Loki became bad because he was jealous. Literally in the Loki show he says he's had plenty of partners over the years, boys and girls. He was a freaking prince after all, had power and riches, and there's no way he couldn't have had company if he wanted to have it. Also Thor always loved him. Thor has loved him despite all his mischieviousness. So yes, he did have friends. Nobody would dare alienate an Asgradian prince, and the son of Odin, what are you even taking about? He also got plenty of love from Frigga.
Loki didn't change because Mobius became close to him. Not at all, Loki ONLY opened up to Mobius AFTER HE SAW THAT HIS ACTIONS KILLED HIS MOTHER, and after he saw how HE died. That's what scared Loki and gave him a reality check. When he's close to Sylvie he ALSO says that it's because he knows why he did the bad stuff, and he isn't that person anymore, since he SAW where his actions led him. How his mother, father, and brother all loved him dearly, but he was blind to it because of his jealousy, and betrayed them.
Only because he realised all of that did he open up to Mobius and later Sylvie, none of that was because he never had any such opportunities before.
Odin in "Thor" - You were both born to he kings
Odin in "Dark world" - YOUR BIRTHRIGHT WAS TO DIE
*confusion*
1st statement was before he knew he was adopted
2nd one was after he knew it, and also attempted to enslave and rule Midgard
Loki was supposed to rule Jotunheim as a puppet ruler for Odin. Odin himself admits this in the first movie.
1st was to a child by a father who had hope for the future, the child also being told that even if they were both born to be kings, that only he or his brother would rule
2nd was to a grown man by his father who felt rage and was in the middle of berating him for a crime
@@DarkCreed That is an incredibly cynical way of looking at it.
@@MANJYOMETHUNDER111 As opposed to cynically saying his birthright was death? Saving Loki may have been one of the first acts of mercy Odin did since imprisoning Hel but even Loki pointed out it was done because Odin saw the advantage of it, a frostgiant spawn, son of the king, taught Asgardian ways, always meant for the cold rock throne. When Loki's character says Odin always favored Thor and set the two brothers at odds I believe him.
It wasn't until Loki didn't want the throne at all, did he get the most obscenely powerful throne in all of existence.
Yeah, the throne to be the King of the Multiverse
yes the truly birthright to rule on a cold rock : D
When you dont want it is when you deserve it the most.
It's still crazy to think about the number of Gods in the MCU now after L&T... any one of those Gods could have been in Loki's place, but Loki got the privilege of being Thor's brother lol.
@@nahor88 those gods are not fit for that heavy responsibility, even thor. (Not yet, anyway.) In the end, Loki never wanted the throne. He just wanted to be with his friends. But he sacrificed that, and faced his fear of being alone, to save everyone. THAT is true godliness, in my opinion.
Odin: we are not gods.
Me: then stop calling yourselves the gods of whatever.
It’s simply a title. Odin was explaining how they’re not so different from midgardians
It was people that called thor the god of thunder
@@maggs131 then he called himself that.
@@mr.l8723 In the comics they are actually Gods, and Thor next movie Gorr The God Butcher will be the villain
In the MCU they are aliens who were thought as gods by the Vikings.
The irony of Odin talking down to loki for wanting to conquer a planet...lol. Thats what Odin did for like a thousand years.
Think of it like Kratos criticizing Atreus for killing Modi. The man has killed an entire pantheon yet reprimands Atreus for killing one. Odin is aware of his horrendous actions and is trying to prevent a repeat.
too bad hella didnt gain anything xD
@@howdoichangemyusername9802The major difference is that Kratos doesn't punish his loki for it, but rather tries to teach him.
Unlike odin, who throws his loki into forever jail.
So? They stop doing that....they know they were wrong
@@runtergerutscht4401You know you’re a failure when the Ghost of Sparta is a better person than you.
Not the best film in the MCU by far, but any moments we get with Anthony Hopkins as Odin are pure gold.
And Hiddleston as Loki of course; a legendary combination.
Too bad both characters are dead
@@axelnilsson5124 at least we have a variant of Loki!
"Not the best film in the MCU by far"
*But in my opinion it isn't the worst film in the MCU by far either.*
@@thomasbaader6629 To be frank, it is not the least enjoyable of their films. Eternals was less enjoyable, in my opinion, and the new Ant Man film also landed below that line (Jonathan Majors was great, though).
@@emperornapoleon6204Thor Love & Thunder is the worst. Eternal is pretty boring in the middle, but quite well in the beginning and the end with Arishem appearing it is one of the best
"If I‘m for the axe, then for mercy’s sake just swing it"
So Loki was ready to die?
Well by that point, he couldn't go back to the frost giants as most were dead and the rest were probably not all that welcoming of former Asgardian princes. He was defeated by the Avengers and without an army, had no active reason to return to Earth. He'd betrayed Asgard and even Odin was prepared to leave him in a dungeon for the rest of his life. He had to be on the outs with Thanos after losing the battle in New York. And his whole childhood had been a lie. So yeah, he probably WAS ready to die.
Not really...God of mischief was trying.
nah, he was just pretending to being "tough".
@@bogbog4678 he literally tried to kill himself in Thor 1, I guess it hasn't changed that much
@@fedeeeeee when?
Tom shines in every scene he's in. Love every scene with him and Odin.
"Listen, Sylvie, I betrayed everyone who ever loved me. I betrayed my father, my brother. My home. I know what I did. And I know why I did it. And that’s not who I am anymore."--Loki (2021)
Yes!!!!!
His brother, fair enough, but his father??? His home???
@@kristelpi652 I guess when he let go at the end of the first movie and joined up with Thanos? I mean Odin did screw up royally with the adoption thing, but Loki should have realized after all this time it didn’t matter, this was his family. I guess it’s your basic don’t run away from home and join the crazy evil circus story. 😜
@@kristelpi652 He put a spell on Odin and sent him away from Asgard, which started Ragnarok.
"yeah, like that's ever gonna happen!"
Major respect to the cameraman for traveling to Asgard to capture this scene.
Yasss lol
Absolutely
Funny last year but tiring to hear this year.
The cameraman must be built different then, because mortals aren’t allowed to have access to the bifrost (until Jane)
I wonder how the cameraman snuck into Asgard without Heimdall knowing. Must be difficult
"We are not gods"
*Loki; Laughs holding his Multiversal Yggdrasil*
They still *die* just an alien who can live longer and has advance technology than us. So they are not gods its just a title to scare the enemys and those illiterate people😂
#Tenduotrigintillionbitcoin #Loki ❤
Loki was the highlight of this film.
Agree 😌
loki stole the show
"it is my birthright"
It was infact, his birthright
He is truly burden with glorious purpose 😊
HIS BIRTHRIGH-- *_TTTA_* .....WAS TO DIE!!
Odin: Wherever you go, there's war, ruin and death.
Me: Doesn't that sound familiar, Odin?
I know you are talking about Hela 😂😂😂😂
@@MorganLeodeMenezes I was actually talking about Odin himself before he donned his "peace cape". But yeah, Hela makes sense, too! 😉
@💋 Sweety Hotgirl • Vlogs For a man with pride and grief walking hand-in-hand, death is always better than humiliation from the person he had always looked up to. And Loki, being Loki, would have surely found a way to get his neck out of the blade's way.
Your point?
@@Aacezay his point is that Odin is a hypocrite.
*”If you hadn’t picked up the Tesseract you would’ve been taken to a cell on Asgard.”*
- Agent Mobius.
Edit: I said MOE-BEE-US not MOR-BEE-US. Read carefully, people. 🙄
Yeah
didn’t you see the movies or wht
@@Gito975
I saw all Thor films
@@drakedy2145 no one asked you
@@fantasoda487 does it really matter? It wasn’t like he was being specific in his question.
Unpopular opinion: The guard’s suits are kinda sick!!
unpopular?
Well I’ve heard no one else talk about them
@Thanos coincidence? i think not
@Thanos
Or maybe Loki’s helmet resembles guards helmets
fr, the costume design was too good
Anthony Hopkins once again killing it as Odin when he delivers "Your birthrigh-T was to die!!". He truly was one of the best talents MCU ever had, the only person coming close in dramatic portrayals is Angela Bassett now.
Loki: I assure you, brother. The sun will shine on us again☀🌞☀🌞💙💚
Weird to think that while this is going on there’s a separate timeline Loki variant messing with the TVA 😅
Hahaha I know 🤣
Well yes, but actually no.
I've watch all loki series but i kinda didn't understand the "reset" meaning by the tva. Does it mean they delete the timeline or what 🤔
@@mrmirul3509 Yes, they eliminate the entire timeline, they destroy it.
@@sebastianbarnuevo6187 Oh okay thnks my man
Anthony Hopkins is such an absolute bad ass in any role but as Odin Allfather he is amazing. When he shouts “your birthright!” Gives me chills
It’s odin borson
@@rockhudson647 you’re borson me now
@@amachin6 lol got em
@@amachin6 Wow, good one little boy, Mommy help you with that?
@@radicalreactions1633 you’re also borson me
"all this because loki desires a throne" - odin
😏
when he gets one at the end of the movie does a terrible job ruling Asgard pretending to be Odin, which is rather concerning for Loki's current throne being the multiverse.
Actually, he didn‘t desire the throne. What he wanted was being considered as equal son as Thor
yep didnt matter when surtur destroyed the kingdom@@leopoldjoe1270
@@grimmshredsanguinus2915 Yeah, but if Odin knows how to express his love for two sons equally, Loki won't go this far. Then the consequences are different because he won't trick Thor to invade ice titan, Thor won't be sent to the Earth and won't meet Jane. So, Jane doesn't need to find the way to Asgard and the reality stone won't be identified. Loki won't fell to meet Thanos, and no NYC invasion events. Tony won't have a nightmare not try to create AI (Ultron), Thor will never meet Wanda, and will no realize about Ragnarok event, so he won't go to kill Surtur and no Ragnarok sequence.
So, summary is all of this is Odin fault lol
This is so heartbreaking. So basically when Thor screws up "Oh, its ok, he is still growing. Lets send him on a fun field-trip to earth". But when Loki screws up its "Son, what son? This thing? He was supposed to die anyways, so may be now is the right time to kill him. Okay, Frigga, honey, just because you asked I will leave him to rot in the dungeon without any possibility to atone for his mistake"
Um, Loki killed thousands in New York and wanted to enslave Earth, Odin had every right to be angry.
And Thor was ready to break an already brittle peaceful treaty(when he was very clearly told not to do exactly that) and wage war that would very likely harm not only Asgardians and Frost giants (In which case millions of civilians would die because Thor desired to prove a point) but also could potentially pull all 9 realms into chaos. Not to mention that if daddy dearest was't there to save him and his friends Thor and Co would probably die in the first half an hour of the movie. I'm not defending Lokis actions. I'm saying that its quite easy to see who the golden child is in this family if the only person who didn't want him dead was his mom. Imagine growing up in a family where your dad treats you differently cause you aren't his blood. (The way he never said anything when kid Thor said he will be kind as if its done deal or Odin's birthright comment are kinda telling. He didn't say that Thor was older, that he had better management skill, achieved more or anything like that, he just said that Loki's birthright was to die. To me that screams "I never considered you equal to Thor since you aren't my blood"). Loki even once said to Thor "I never wanted a throne. I just wanted to be your equal".Tbh, if my brother kept interrupting me or ever thought of telling me "know your place" I would bury him alive and pretend it was that way when I came. I'm not excusing Lokis behaviour, I shame Odin as a father and Thor as a brother.
I also think that in the later movies Thor did some growing up but unfortunately the damage is done.@@millabasset1710
@@millabasset1710 Hela killed thousands during Odin's conquests.
@@millabasset1710 Thor wanted to start a war on which Odin himself lost an eye to win. It’s much worse than killing thousands in NY.
@@millabasset1710 Odin's killed how many more? Give us a break, remember HELA?! oops.
Odins a huge hypocrite where ever Loki goes there’s war & death okay sure but don’t forget his daughter is the literal embodiment of death
It s the reason why he locked her.
@Ministry of Mystics Odin didn’t always wage out of necessity
No he isn’t
@@Aacezay ye 🙃
"We don't talk about Hela, no, no, no"
Always liked how no matter what Loki gets up to, he always had this fear of Odin.
Odin has crazy strength & Loki seems to always bow down to one with that kind of strength, hence. Thanos/Thor & Hulk as well
That's because no matter how bad ass you think you are, you can't take your dad.
What fear? That's hurt bro.
@@specialk9424 Too bad it's NOT HIS DAD, a dad's supposed to take care of his kid, not treat him like shit. And believe me, MANY kids take on their dads, especially when they're abusive trash like Odin.
Nagyapa😍😍😍😍😍🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Coming back here from Loki season 2.....
"Your birthright was to die...." just hits differently now that Loki has created his own version of Yggdrasil...
1:38 “It’s not that I don’t love our little talks, it’s just…
…I don’t love them.”
Lmao
Loki: It is my birthright
MCU: your birthright is to save the Multiverse
still got the frozen rock throne :D
The beginning shows that Loki wasn't actually being remorseless, but rather acting so.
I think Loki is mostly remorseless. Not because he's without compassion or morals, but because given how he was raised, he really didn't do anything wrong. It's okay to rule over others with no democracy - Odin is currently doing so. Odin conquered other realms once upon a time, and he hasn't returned their freedom to them. Odin rules as "a benevolent god", which was Loki's plan. What of the lives he took in his attempted conquest? "A mere handful compared to Odin".
Loki should absolutely be held accountable for his actions, but Odin is the last person with any right to do so, because he both did this and taught this, and caused his child to feel the need to prove himself and create a new home for himself.
@@ancatdal No throughout the MCU post Dark World, he shows some remorse. It's just that he's good at acting as if it doesn't affect him. He's learned to hide his depression. Look at how he talks throughout the movies. As if he's putting on a mask.
Loki desires a throne and he finally gets to the biggest one. King of the multiverse
Stan Lee wanted to play Odin but he was very happy about Anthony Hopkins performance.
Wasn't it JJ jameson?
Obviously the show brought me back here. Loki was the reason I found this movie to actually be better than the first.
Odin and Loki’s conversation is so hateful here, but I love how time apart and some real perspective changed their attitude towards each other by the time Odin passes away. The love came back for them both
Same
Seriously, what are you on? Watch ALL the scenes with these two again, NOT ONE of them involved Odin speaking DIRECTLY TO Loki with anything more than contempt, Odin NEVER LOVED LOKI, FFS he didn't even love his own wife. Don't be so easily manipulated.
@@radicalreactions1633 I smell a lot of bullshit. Don’t insult people’s intelligence for having a different perspective
@@radicalreactions1633 What are YOU on? Especially to claim he never loved his own wife.
Odin, I think, is one of those people who loves greatly, but is too emotionally retarded to express it properly. The guy has to balance the indulgence of a parent with the uncompromising righteousness of a king. I can see why his relationship with his children would be rocky
I miss this Loki so much. He had his own agency, he lived by his name (Mischief), and he was charming. But most importantly, he had balls.
"YOUR BIRTHRIGH-TUH"
Reminds me of Bill Nighy's Davy Jones
He and Anthony Hopkins are British.
Literally 😂😂😂
I think you mean victor from underworld, in rise of the lycans thats when he said it
1:18
Yessss! True!
I won't be surprised if Anthony Hopkins is secretly Santa Claus.
"Your Birthright was to be on the Naughty List 📃"
1:17 Odin turns Irish
Hopkins' Welsh accent definitely peeking through there!
Thor turns Scottish when loki got "stabbed"
Loki: Define worse.
Odin: Norse.
Loki: ...not the dad jokes, please.
“I will speak to the prisoner alone.” Yikes Odin doesn’t even refer to his own son by name because Loki did horrible things that are because of Odin’s own terrible parenting skills.......
Well... you have a point cuz in What If, it's suggested that Laufey was a great father, and Loki turned out to be a "brotha from anotha motha" to Thor.
😁
@@nahor88 he actually doesn’t seem as close to Thor in that timeline he seems to be more that friend that never truly has your back
Narcs can't admit wrong doing.
@@anthonyallmond3682 What? Seriously, dream on. Thor is the one that abandons everyone.
@@radicalreactions1633 yet he always defended earth, even taking a neutron star for them
Imagine If one of the guards holding loki would start laughing in the middle of the sentence
Odin:Your birthright tt wa...
Guard: laughs uncontrollably
*A few minutes later*
Odin:I odin all-father cast you out!!!!
@@Vivekraj-in8gq Good one!
@@Vivekraj-in8gq LMAOOO 😂😂
weird to think that this is around the same time that another variant Loki is currently talking to an alligator version of himself
That foot clap is so fun to watch and amazingly well done.
Don't know if you're being sarcastic, but clicking your heels together while coming to attention is a sign of respect. Loki is doing it ironically, clicking his shackles together to mock the respect due to Odin.
However ironic, it's also formal, extending the distance between father and son created when Odin opted to handle this as a king instead of as a father.
Who's here after Loki 2's season finale?
I am
Here
This moment had way more impact on Loki than I thought. For hundreds of years, Odin told his son's that their birthright was to be King and rule Asgard. In the first movie, he legitimately got the throne and yet was demeaned by even his friends who didn't believe he deserved it. Now here, Odin tells Loki that his birthright was to die, further reinforcing his words as it "all makes sense now". Despite the whole Earth thing, Loki was straight up robbed by the one who pretended to be his father.
Wrong. He didn't legitimately get it because he engineered the whole situation to become King and Sif and the Warriors 3 were right to be suspicious. This moment is after Loki tried to kill Thor, destroyed a small town on Earth, engineered a false flag attack on Odin and tried to commit genocide on Jotunheim and tried to take over Earth and slaughtered thousands. And Loki's birthright was to die as he was abandoned by his father to die as a baby and he would have had Odin not saved him. Odin loved him as a son for 1500 years and when he said both were born to be kings Loki was just an child.
From wanting to rule Asgard to now becoming the guardian and protector of Yggdrasil. Man, what a journey
Even though this version of Loki did not end up creating the multiversal tree of life, it feels so good having the "it is my birthright" line pay off to us.
A version of him grew up to be much more significant to all of entirety than Odin could have imagined
Fr that's the multiverse for ya
Well, he saw it. All seeing.
This flick has it's flaws but scenes like this one, Frigga and Loki's conversation in the cell, Loki and Thor's arguments,... are just pure character moments that "Ragnarok" mostly traded for, at least in my view, cheap jokes and levity.
I know they wanted to lighten things up and replicate the GOTG style for the Thor franchise - and financially that move was absolutely the right one - but in doing so, they basically made a mockery of the character and vast aspects of the lore.
Ah, a man of culture. I think the same
Thanks man, for acknowledging this, Ragnarok sucks and so has MCU with it. Kudos to Disney and Taika
Ragnarok has plenty of character moments as well. Comedy doesn’t always mean not serious.
@@theaterpup3466 so, you're saying Loki's demise in dark world was treated well, when it was turned into a stage play and destruction of Asgard was justified by korg's stupid lines. No regression of Thor losing his hammer and father. Yeah that's a hell of a characteristic scene
@@theaterpup3466 I Think, Taika doesn't know difference between a canon and a parody movie. And if we come on Disney, they are cash grabbers, who changed a serious plot into a slapstick one. And don't forget how late star wars franchise was treated
I love how he knows he’s adopted but still calls her Mother
He loved Frigga so much,so yeah , she has all the right to call her mother
@@oana3573 "he"
Well it wasn't her he had the issues with and he always loved her
Maybe TVA would give Loki a throne some day. Just a small one. He just needs a throne...
In the trailers it shows a sequence where we see Loki as King of Asgard, so he'll get his throne for a little bit
@@cameronbland7400 Just for little 🤏
I think Loki is worthy enough to get at least one throne at any place of the universe.
He got a few years ruling Asgard when he should have been in prison. I say he got done right
@@cameronbland7400 have u seen ep6?
Is loki appearing in multiverse of madness?
@@user-ys5ki6gi7b That "I don't want a throne, I just want you to be ok" almost make me cry 😫
Odin is so harsh with Loki here because he sees his son repeating the same mistakes he made and delivers to his son the judgement that Odin himself feels that Odin deserved for the horrors he had caused, horrors that drove him to use his own daughter as a weapon without regard for the damage that this inflicted on her sanity. He sealed her away not out of fear or anger, but shame for what he did to her, for what he forced her to become. Fathers are never so angry with their children as when those children repeat their mistakes.
"Hello mother, have I made you proud?"
Please dont make this worst
@@takhelchapraveenthebozz2660 define worse
@@blueblack3591 Enough
@@takhelchapraveenthebozz2660 i want to speak with the prisoner alone
@@sixpathguide5539 i really don't see what all the fuss is about
“All this because Loki desired a throne”
Also Odin in the first Thor movie: “You were both born to be kings”
Loki had more character development here than Thor. It should've been his movie lol.
Thor: Loki’s trial
No
Loki was not wrong. Thor would of made a bad King. he would play video games and eat cheetos all day, while others do all the work.
Loki has complexity and character development in mcu as much as thor
The Thor trilogy was basically Lokis redemption from attempting to destroy an entire specie to save an entire specie
Odin is the worse father. Now that I watch this scene again I feel him. Im in his shoes now. Lol
Hell, I'd volunteer to be Loki's attorney.
"Your honor Oden, Loki blew up his own home world to save Asgard. The frost giants declared war on Asgard thanks to Thor's actions that provoked it. Loki was enforcing *your law* that it clearly states the following; "Those who place Asgard in harms way, will pay dearly for it." And the mortals on Midgard were converting the tesseract as a *weapon of mass destruction* to using it on Asgard. Enslavement is a mercy compared to what Loki did to his own home world.
And if Loki truly hated you sir, he wouldn't have stopped that frost giant from driving that ice dagger into your hart while you were in your *Oden sleep*.
The defense rests.
Loki let the Ice Giants in to begin with to he would have probable cause to commit Genocide. He was also the one to let the Ice Giant into Asgard during Thor’s coronation, and was the reason Thor got banished. Loki wanted to commit genocide and murder billions because he wanted to one-up Thor. He then went to Earth, murdered several people that had nothing to do with the Jotunheim conflict and almost kickstarted another Genocide.
Loki can eat a dick.
Too bad he is king, not just judge.
Loki is smart enough that if he wanted to he could have made that argument to Odin, be his own lawyer
He proved that his birthright was not to die... (after Loki S2)
People keep saying that Odin was too harsh on Loki in this scene but you have to remember all he has done. Loki let the frost giants into Asgard, destroyed a small town, attempted to kill his powerless brother, tried to kill Lady Sif and the warrior three, part of a planned assassination for Odin, tried to use the Bifrost to destroy Jotunnhiem, when the Bifrost was destroyed it brought chaos to the nine realms, then killed hundreds of innocent humans on Earth in Asgard’s name. So I think Odin’s harsh anger is warranted.
yet thor in some movies is like a giant kid n odin has done alot n more than what odin has done. to give someone their whole life to rot in jail where they coudnt see there mom brother whoever prob cant come out it'll be a confined space i would go insane
Ur forgetting the fact that Loki was influenced by the infinity stone that thanos gave and that he might’ve been tortured before arriving on earth, yet Odin still have him a worse punishment then Thor.
@@Vvaleraen2 He didn't have the stone at the time
@@cosmox1x yes but he isn't actively touching it but rather controlling it Instead.
Odin sucks
"Enough. I will speak to the prisoner alone." *Only Frigga leaves.*
“I will speak to the prisoner alone”
10 guards behind him…
Well yeah, would you leave Loki alone without guards? They are under orders to do whatever Odin says, not the "witch"
@@Sillysoft he said to be alone and also I think Odin can handle him
You’d think that after thousands of years that Odin would’ve produced hundreds of children and chose the best one instead of having to constantly worry about his 3 children fucking his legacy up.
I love your name dude🇺🇸
In the actual mythology he does have more children. Tyr and Heimdell amongst them, along with Baldur.
Sounds like tywin
There ain't thousand but seven or eight not 3
@@gyanendraprasaddhal7605 agreed
1:01 Odin: "We are not gods, we're born, we live, we die..." then in the next movies, Odin: "Hela, the goddess of death", and also Odin: "are you the god of thunder or the god of hammers?" 😏
That’s mostly because that was phase two which was grounded in science which is why Asgard is portrayed as advanced aliens without magic and then in phase three with the introduction of doctor strange they introduced magic and then we got to see the more magical side of Asgard with Thor learning his power doesn’t just come from the hammer like we thought
@@anthonyallmond3682 and yet in Avengers there is a line spoken by Loki about "dark magic" but yeah, they did kinda just gloss over the existence of magic and downplay it for *way too long*
@@InfernosReaper pretty much if you want me to give my opinion about it they should’ve introduced in Thor
@@anthonyallmond3682 Best place for it, especially since it took them so long to get around to doing Dr Strange
@@InfernosReaperwhen I first watched I thought that when Odin banished Thor and sealed his power that was magic then they said it wasn’t
Odin was angry because he sees himself to loki when he was a conqueror back then, he thought hela that they are gods and should rule the other realms. The "we are not gods" statement makes more sense now.
Even then, Odin is the universe's shittiest dad.
Nah, reckon Zeus edges him out in that regard...
@@PeteTheGrouch Zeus is worse than Odin. He's done dispicable thing
ego is worse
@@mrpen2paper Truth.
Zeus, Odin and Ego are all the worst parents.
Maybe we can see dark world loki in next episode
Yes please
The less we speak of this movie the
better
@@spider-jonah-man7148 In your opinion. Personally I loved Dark World, it was the last time we saw Thor being serious. Ragnarok is the film I don't like talking about.
@@Bmhtsos18 bruh Thor Is way more interesting in ragnorok Imo. He’s only not serious because he’s been thru a lot of shit but he detaches from it. Think about it his father dies his sister is a murderer and he lost Asgard. He says in the film he faces his problems because that’s what hero’s do without ever acknowledging his pain. So in a since he’s a hypocrite. That’s way more interesting then previous Thor
@@spider-jonah-man7148 Yet all these tragedies are treated as jokes in Ragnarok. No, Thor is not supposed to be a comic relief, he's supposed to be majestic and serious like the god he is. If any hero in the MCU should be comic relief it's Spider-Man. Ragnarok ruined Thor in my opinion and I fear that Love and Thunder will be just as bad with Taika Waititi as director.
Odin: wherever you go there is war, ruin, and death... And thousands of screaming fan girls 😤
All I see is this: Thor does something and he gets banished on a exotic trip, in the search of his tiny little hammer. Loki does the exact same thing (but succeeds a bit more) and it's a disgrace for asgard, a danger for everything and he deserves to die. It doesn't matter if he did it out of sorrow and the insecurities his parents allowed to get in, and not doucheness/arrogance like blondie; it doesn't matter that they didn't even wanted to solve was wrong with him and they all just beat him up and chain him.
Well, Thor didn't go to earth to start an alien invasion that caused death and destruction, did he?
@@sergiosilvestri5147 no but he started a war with frost giants
Earthlings can't fight asgardians
@@sergiosilvestri5147 You are missing the point. In thor 1 it was literally proven that Odin preferred Thor over Loki giving the obvious reason of Loki's attack on Asgard. Odin has over 4000 years of experience and still couldn't get that idk why. Anyone in Loki's place would do such a thing. The moment when Thor was being cast out, where Loki was innocent, he was yelled without any reason too. These things built up for the war on Midgard/Earth.
@@jayden2274 He barely killed 20 random zombies and caused wounds to a very few Frost Giants, with help of others and *Loki*. Those were already ancient rivals of Asgard, their peace was mostly crap and not so much a danger with Odin around, and yet Odin banished him from his home, removed all his ranks and power as a God and then send Thor to live as a homeless nobody to earth, do you think that is a minor punishment? but in the end, all of that was to teach him a lesson, because Thor was a fool and did wrong, but his intention were completely different from Loki, Thor believed that he was protecting Asgard and the world (he was wrong), Loki wanted to conquer and kill any threat to thar purpose.
Then there is Loki, he allied hymself with the Frost Giant enemies to invade Asgard, tried to kill his brother and Odin hymself, attacked his own people, tried to generate an invasion, later he allied hymself with aliens, started an alien invasion to the earth, one of the protected worlds, destroyed a whole city killing thousands of people, and destroying the name of his pantheon, and yet all his recieved is the standard life sentence with far more pretty jail conditions than most.
Just because Odin did some things wrongs, that not translate itself as saying bullshit of Odin everytime just because is popular now to do that.
Classic case of bad parenting...
Loki got his throne.
"We are not Gods. We are born, we live, we die. Just as humans do."
About time someone made damn sense of that.
*"Give or take 5,000 years"*
😅
@@thalmoragent9344 I believe in cratures who can exceed that lifespan and I still don't think them as deities :P
Also, I thought he said; *It'll talke 5,000 years :P*
@@riiddisbuk2496
True, not immortals, but extremely powerful beings nonetheless. Practically gods in comparison, as they're rather OP in the grand state of things. Even Thanos would think twice about messing with people like Odin or Hella.
Also, nah I'm pretty sure he said "give or take" 5,000 years, but I may be hearing it wrong, who knows. It just sounds like it makes more sense.
@@thalmoragent9344 Is Odin that much more powerful than Thanos with multiple Infinity Gems?
@@riiddisbuk2496 Yes. Not sure about Hela but she seems to be around Thanos' strength and also with a huge experience too.
Odin on the other hand has lived for around 5000 years having ruled the 9 realms, fighting with Hela for years, abandoning her, raising Thor and Loki for almost 1500 yrs.
In Thor 1 he instantly took away all of his powers and the Mjonir from Thor's hands just showing a demonstration of his power. Also he was able to cast out a strong being as Hela for over 1500 yrs too.
After love and thunder this movie feels better
Thor The Dark World is a masterpiece compared to that mess.
Odin's A+ parenting.
"Where ever you go, there is war, ruin & death" -basically every father
I swear, Loki’s the biggest baby I’ve ever seen
He's supposed to be an entitled narcissist
A bit rich of Odin to say that he didn't rule like Loki would have, given that he and Hela colonised and committed genocide in countless worlds. The 'just like you' line shines anew post Ragnarok.
How did odin commit genocide.
Odin is such an asshole. He slaughtered 9 realms with Hella, he banished and forgive Thor and his other son, he treated like a garbage. At least he could give him half of the Asgard, since the Ragnarok and then Thanos killed 99% of them.
Hela, Loki and even Odin had horns. Thor had wings on his helmet.
1:15 Honestly, they were both right. Loki's birthright was to die on a frozen rock, but a throne was also his birthright; just a throne on a frozen rock. That's why in "Infinity War" he was finally honest with himself and said he was "the rightful king of Jotunheim"
As an adopted person… Odins words pierced my soul…
Anthony Hopkins is such a good odin. Every scene he's in He has such a presence on screen that all the characters are almost frightened of what he might do next.
In the first movie Thor and Loki-both-conspired against Odin.
Thor by starting an unsanctioned war, and Loki by overthrowing Thor.
All in all, Loki would of been the better King if he had recieved more love.
Sure, he wanted to genocide the frost giants...but so did Thor.
Can you tell me the names of the movies plzzzzzzzzz
@@maryamarshad5189 Thor, Thor the dark world, and Ragnarok.
Dude, you can't be more biased.
Loki also orchestrated Thor's exile and the Frost Giants' invasion of Asgard while Odin was asleep. Oh, and he almost froze Heimdall to death with the Casket of Ancient Winters. But yeah, love is what Loki needed instead of a spanking in the rear.
@@Bmhtsos18 He's devious, but not evil.
Loki could have easily killed his father but didn't.
Odin himself isn't any better, going by his invasion of the 9 realms.
He was evil in the avengers 1, but I mean... who wouldn't be pissed after falling off the rainbow bridge after being denied the throne.
I feel real bad for Loki in reality
I'm glad that Marvel actually acknowledges Thor Dark World that they make some of its scenes important for later series
Loki's birthright as with all Loki's across the multiverse was to loose
Am I the only who loved this movie, not just because of Loki?
No.
I loved it
I also thought it was the best of the 4 Thor films
"If I'm for the axe then for mercy's sake, just swing it."
Knowing that Loki already tried to unalive himself once, and now he's willing asking Odin to kill him.
I'm going to cry in the corner.
Well he never got the approval he always wanted from odion whi ch thor got and he was made to feel like monster about how everyone talked about forest gaints
This is the marvel we want, dark and emotional
Anthony Hopkins truly is a great actor. He knows how to deliver lines quietly threatening and then raise his voice for maximum impact.
>where ever you go there's war, ruin and death
to be fair to Loki at this point it's like 1 single place total
I get the feeling that Odin is projecting here. Or maybe he held certain fears about how Loki would turn out, and now thinks he sees them confirmed - either about Loki being Jotun, or being Laufey's son, inheriting bloodlust and greed for conquest. Because there really isn't a pattern here like he says.
I think there's could be something very poetic and tragic about the idea of blaming nature when it is your nurture that made "the monster", a sort of "self-fulfilling prophecy" type thing if Odin kept an emotional distance from Loki out of suspicion of his nature, only to create the thing he feared.
"It's not that I don't love our little talks, its just that, I don't love them"
Love the way he says Birthright! It's like he's just taking the word that Loki thinks is so important and throwing it back in his face.
"your birthright was to die"
well in a sense thats everyones birthright, sooner or later
*as a child. Sorry, I had to.
You must fun at parties right?
1:55 oh god HIS EXPRESSION here. I think he's heartbroken but is too proud to admit it. What depth of character. Tom Hiddleston is SO GOOD at this.