Wow, you explained the Master so well in under 4 minutes whilst being so much better in your explanation than other video essays I've seen is just amazing. Thank you.
Freddie was stronger than Lancaster mentality and physically. At the end Lancaster knew he failed to break through and own Freddie's mind, soul and heart. After watching the movie I thought the title of the movie actually referred to Freddie as the Master. Whatever road Freddie took in his life he always knew what or who he was and never let anyone manipulate him to do neither good or bad, he was his own Master.
@@TomTheCurator great observation He died like ‘a rock star’ I know, not funny The only two actors that died in this century that left me with a huge sense of loss were him and James Gandolfini RiP to both of them
Good stuff!!! I Love PTA, probably my favorite modern American filmmaker. In my opinion it's his best film. If someone would ask me, I see Hoffman and Phoenix as sort of two sides of one coin, they might be two forces in a single individual. Freddie is the animalistic side of us, the biological instincts, that drives us, while Lancaster more humane aspect of us and it's all wrapped in this kind of almost real, pseudo- historical context of USA after the WW2, filled with elements from L. Ron Hubbard's biography and a lot of other themes, although I need to re-watch it , I haven't seen it in a pretty long time. P.S: You have really good channel, there are not a lot of those that talk about what I would consider to be "serious films"
Just noticed I might have gotten Dodds and his wife’s egos mixed up however that’s debatable due to their functions and interactions in the film. Also while I’m not completely dismissing it, I do not think Freddy and Lancaster were in an physical relationship.
Iwouldn't blame the film. PCH's addiction issues and just being a human who was vulnerable caused him to relapse. A drink being offered at a premiere is circumstantial. I imagine there were other offers of drinks and other premieres he would attend being a prolific actor. But yes that is sad. Sorry if I came off as a wet blanket.
Good stuff! Thank you... I think these 2 men had a bond but Freddie yearned to be w a family and Dodd had to have Master servant w all his relationships..
Man... I see this whole story has "bad memories" Quell's from being questioned and tested on during or after the war... He and Dodd seems to be the same person. (When Dodd's get a Handy in the bathroom and his alcoholism is really reminiscent of Quell's behaviour.) Dodd's(family) is always paranoid about agents/communism but it's Freddie that went to war? I believe Dodd's to be a piece of Freddie's imagination from all the doctor's he'd seen before/during/after the war. Freddie always been acting like an "animal" from the outside. I see Dodd's as his inner peace/conscience. Idk where the prison scene fits in between all of this... But man this was worth the 2nd watch. Peace
There is a subtle irony in this analysis; scientology hates, like really hates, psychoanalysis and Freud, who came up with the three ego's mentioned. Funny how they are perhaps used to illustrate the cult itself.
great explanation, athough i think its a good movie with exceptional acting by both phönix and psh, the movie is just so slow paced and some scenes are way too long. Great storytelling, cinomotograhy and directing but could have been shorter, some scenes are way too long
The first time I watched the movie I didn't like it. But usually the same holds true with many of the best movies that stand the test of time: Boogie Nights, The Big Lebowski, Fargo , are all movies I didn't enjoy the first viewing. Subsequently to that I've watched all of them dozens of times respectively.
I do have a different interpretation than yours . I think the master is a deeply religious movie about free will . When dodd says at the end to quell if you happen to discover a way to live without a master then you would be the first person to do so in the human history . Dodd like quell is a deeply sick person . I think in a way he has made this religious cult to be only submissive to himself . To his own ego not to anyone else even god . In a way he is more sick than even quell . But in the end he is neither happy nor satisfied, because he is still just a pawn submissive to his wife . In another words , quell is the healthiest person in the entire movie , he is neither affected by the cause or anything . In a way he is a free spirit that dodd finds himself drawn to , because he is the most real person he has ever met . Neither affected by the cause nor a blind follower to it . In another words he could be the master , not dodd himself or his dominant wife .
1000000% spot on. Agree completely. Maybe me and yourself have had similar life experiences and that is our projection of what we saw but the nature of being free for quell at the end laying next to the sandcastle made me happy for him. He wasn’t in the shackles of “The Cause”.
So glad how grossly misinterpreted this movie is. One of the best for sure. oh and absolutely *nothing* to do with Scientology/religion. albeit that does play a tiny part of the plot it’s not really what the films about at all. in actuality, the biggest teller is actually the title. The Master. If it *was* about scientology, or a religion, why didn’t it work on Freddie? what was the *deeper* message in the movie. what goes beyond the “shown” theme of religious control? if it was scientology why doesn’t it divulge why it doesn’t work on freddie? cause it’s not about the cult per se. it’s about what precedes the cult. why does the master want a cult in the first place. why do any of them want to be in it? why, over and above the master, do, seeming ordinary people want control? why couldn’t freddie be controlled? how do controlling forces, in the world, work. this is just an example. one you can draw many things from. i like the analysis it’s a rorschach movie and you see what’s inside of you play out on the movie. but i disagree. the master and the slave is prevalent in all society, so is control. Thinking this is about scientology is like thinking life is about scientology, sounds ridiculous huh
the irony is you don’t see yourself in the movie shows how asleep most people are. it’s very good movie. it’s not as self realised as i’d like. but it’s certainly close to a masterpiece. some incoherencies and holes lose it some marks but it’s extremely, extremely ambitious work of art. an instance where life imitates the art. or the art imitates life. A lot of PTA movies have the symbol of control and a sort of order to the world. Freddie represented the ones that slip through the net. although everyone’s form of control wasn’t delved into, you could gather in some way, be it via the cult or otherwise, that everyone else had a master and was under some sort of control. apart from Freddie. amazing really. much better to think about than watch, unfortunately though
Wow, you explained the Master so well in under 4 minutes whilst being so much better in your explanation than other video essays I've seen is just amazing. Thank you.
Freddie was stronger than Lancaster mentality and physically. At the end Lancaster knew he failed to break through and own Freddie's mind, soul and heart. After watching the movie I thought the title of the movie actually referred to Freddie as the Master. Whatever road Freddie took in his life he always knew what or who he was and never let anyone manipulate him to do neither good or bad, he was his own Master.
Excellent analysis thank you. I never even grasped that that were the three parts of self. Yet another deep performance by the late great PSH
His performance reminded me of the grandness of Orson Wells best performances. A titan lost too soon.
@@TomTheCurator great observation
He died like ‘a rock star’ I know, not funny
The only two actors that died in this century that left me with a huge sense of loss were him and James Gandolfini
RiP to both of them
I thought this was Joker 2
Think Peggy is actually the super ego
Good stuff!!! I Love PTA, probably my favorite modern American filmmaker. In my opinion it's his best film. If someone would ask me, I see Hoffman and Phoenix as sort of two sides of one coin, they might be two forces in a single individual. Freddie is the animalistic side of us, the biological instincts, that drives us, while Lancaster more humane aspect of us and it's all wrapped in this kind of almost real, pseudo- historical context of USA after the WW2, filled with elements from L. Ron Hubbard's biography and a lot of other themes, although I need to re-watch it , I haven't seen it in a pretty long time.
P.S: You have really good channel, there are not a lot of those that talk about what I would consider to be "serious films"
Point of the movie is that humans want what they can't have. Freddy wants Doris, dod wants freddy etc
Just noticed I might have gotten Dodds and his wife’s egos mixed up however that’s debatable due to their functions and interactions in the film. Also while I’m not completely dismissing it, I do not think Freddy and Lancaster were in an physical relationship.
Agreed.
This was very helpful! Thank you! makes me appreciate the movie a lot more
the video I was waiting for
Absolutely hooked on this film. Thank you for the analysis. It was insightful.
this movie caused PSH to relapse and eventually overdose one year later because he accepted a drink at the films premiere
That's incredibly depressing.
Iwouldn't blame the film. PCH's addiction issues and just being a human who was vulnerable caused him to relapse. A drink being offered at a premiere is circumstantial. I imagine there were other offers of drinks and other premieres he would attend being a prolific actor. But yes that is sad. Sorry if I came off as a wet blanket.
Incorrect, Scientology supposedly murdered him
It wasn't the movie, he did it to himself.
Oookay, you twisted my arm with your quality content. I'll subscribe.
Good stuff! Thank you...
I think these 2 men had a bond but Freddie yearned to be w a family and Dodd had to have Master servant w all his relationships..
Very good analysis!! Thanks!
Best Movie Ever
that description tho
So funny: I watched 3 analysis of the master, all of them different(!)
Another reason why this film is so great
it was good but i was like huh?
Please explain "The One I Love" (2014).
Man... I see this whole story has "bad memories" Quell's from being questioned and tested on during or after the war... He and Dodd seems to be the same person. (When Dodd's get a Handy in the bathroom and his alcoholism is really reminiscent of Quell's behaviour.) Dodd's(family) is always paranoid about agents/communism but it's Freddie that went to war? I believe Dodd's to be a piece of Freddie's imagination from all the doctor's he'd seen before/during/after the war. Freddie always been acting like an "animal" from the outside. I see Dodd's as his inner peace/conscience.
Idk where the prison scene fits in between all of this... But man this was worth the 2nd watch. Peace
This reading is wrong cuz of that
Yup.
amazingly enough freddie and dod are exactly like guts and griffith in berserk
There is a subtle irony in this analysis; scientology hates, like really hates, psychoanalysis and Freud, who came up with the three ego's mentioned. Funny how they are perhaps used to illustrate the cult itself.
Interesting explanation. Very unsatisfying movie
Was ass
The movie was dreadful on every level. I'll give credit to the visual presentation. Entertaining or compelling? Absolutely not.
Its a 100/10 film if you are like Dodd or Freddy. It attacks you.
I agree !!!!
Finally
Great video, keep making more
great explanation, athough i think its a good movie with exceptional acting by both phönix and psh, the movie is just so slow paced and some scenes are way too long. Great storytelling, cinomotograhy and directing but could have been shorter, some scenes are way too long
The first time I watched the movie I didn't like it. But usually the same holds true with many of the best movies that stand the test of time: Boogie Nights, The Big Lebowski, Fargo , are all movies I didn't enjoy the first viewing. Subsequently to that I've watched all of them dozens of times respectively.
Damn, this video makes me feel dumb! Lol
DODD WANTED A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP...THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE SONG BIT WAS ABOUT.
So what's the message just let go? We can't be masters of anything .theres no point in trying to control
This is all about Scientology make no mistake
theres no message its more of an exploration
I do have a different interpretation than yours . I think the master is a deeply religious movie about free will . When dodd says at the end to quell if you happen to discover a way to live without a master then you would be the first person to do so in the human history . Dodd like quell is a deeply sick person . I think in a way he has made this religious cult to be only submissive to himself . To his own ego not to anyone else even god . In a way he is more sick than even quell . But in the end he is neither happy nor satisfied, because he is still just a pawn submissive to his wife . In another words , quell is the healthiest person in the entire movie , he is neither affected by the cause or anything . In a way he is a free spirit that dodd finds himself drawn to , because he is the most real person he has ever met . Neither affected by the cause nor a blind follower to it . In another words he could be the master , not dodd himself or his dominant wife .
Just like Dodd said. Freddy is a Dragon who is getting domesticated by Dodd.
1000000% spot on. Agree completely. Maybe me and yourself have had similar life experiences and that is our projection of what we saw but the nature of being free for quell at the end laying next to the sandcastle made me happy for him. He wasn’t in the shackles of “The Cause”.
So glad how grossly misinterpreted this movie is. One of the best for sure. oh and absolutely *nothing* to do with Scientology/religion. albeit that does play a tiny part of the plot it’s not really what the films about at all.
in actuality, the biggest teller is actually the title. The Master. If it *was* about scientology, or a religion, why didn’t it work on Freddie? what was the *deeper* message in the movie. what goes beyond the “shown” theme of religious control? if it was scientology why doesn’t it divulge why it doesn’t work on freddie? cause it’s not about the cult per se. it’s about what precedes the cult. why does the master want a cult in the first place. why do any of them want to be in it? why, over and above the master, do, seeming ordinary people want control? why couldn’t freddie be controlled? how do controlling forces, in the world, work. this is just an example. one you can draw many things from. i like the analysis it’s a rorschach movie and you see what’s inside of you play out on the movie. but i disagree. the master and the slave is prevalent in all society, so is control.
Thinking this is about scientology is like thinking life is about scientology, sounds ridiculous huh
the irony is you don’t see yourself in the movie shows how asleep most people are. it’s very good movie. it’s not as self realised as i’d like. but it’s certainly close to a masterpiece. some incoherencies and holes lose it some marks but it’s extremely, extremely ambitious work of art. an instance where life imitates the art. or the art imitates life.
A lot of PTA movies have the symbol of control and a sort of order to the world. Freddie represented the ones that slip through the net. although everyone’s form of control wasn’t delved into, you could gather in some way, be it via the cult or otherwise, that everyone else had a master and was under some sort of control. apart from Freddie.
amazing really. much better to think about than watch, unfortunately though