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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones discuss whether the Las Vegas Raiders can turn their season around with Antonio Pierce as their interim head coach. This comes after the silver and black fired Josh McDaniels, GM Dave Ziegler and OC Mick Lombardi and benched Jimmy Garoppolo for rookie Aidan O'Connell.
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Y'all are a bunch of haters our Defense is getting stronger especially now with the leadership change and we got some solid players on the offensive side. The new staff is going to turn things around and whose to say Aiden O Connel isn't our future generational QB? I have a lot of confidence remaining and this season still we can still make it to the playoffs and I look forward to O Connal high lights and the new staff winning games while you fools continue to hate. We got the perfect formula just watch!
For those that want an offensive mind as coach, recall that John Madden was a linebackers coach just like Pierce. Cannot wait until Sunday!
James Jones is hitting the nail on the head.
Yeah and james jones has been wrong for all the years hes worked for the raiders
I’m really with Jones on this one. I always think it’s a good idea to focus on building a well-balanced team above all else. Can’t always have the a generational QB but you can be competitive with a well-rounded squad.
The problem is that his offensive and defensive lines are not that great, but they will surprise some teams.
D-Line has potential. I feel like Butler isn't talked about enough. They need another dog at the edge, which everyone though Wilson would be, but dude just looks lazy every time, polar opposite of Maxx's energy, it sucks. Brian Burns would've been a perfect fit, another lengthy psycho.@@mandarinandthetenrings2201
You're with him because he's right. That other fool is just saying, "copy what the chiefs are doing". Yeah right, lightening in a bottle. Build a DEFENSE. You want to take the top guy out? Stop him! Don't try to do what he's doing better than him. Shut him down!
I agree James
I hear you but win a supetbowl we need 2 be looking for the next aikman
As a raider fan I love Pierce energy, I like his leadership and I do believe the players are exited and happy he’s in there and JMD is gone but the schedule is very tough going forward and we don’t have a proven QB on our roster… but man I hope he turns this ship around
Idk man you can just have energy, you gotta win schematically in this league
@@dylanpirie7320 completely agree but we will see
@@dylanpirie7320worked for the lions
@@dylanpirie7320well, with McSuckiels we didn’t have the energy or the schematics. So at least we’re one step in the right direction.
@WildWill-lp4cv Maybe, you have CTE and PTSD which you may need to get checked on up on lil fella 😅
“You don’t need a generational dude, you need to build a team”
The Eagles beat Tom Brady with Nick Foles.
Dan Campbell and Jared Goff are hardly a generational coach and quarterback but yet they’ve made Detroit a respectable football team.
That wont be consistent watch if the lions make the playoffs i guarantee they wont be in it next year those are the kirk cousin qbs...the jets have an elite defense Justin Herbert just beat them bad the 49ers aren't looking to hot right now plus you have to worry about injuries a great qb cant elevate bad teams and if you keep this mentality that you dont need a great qb thats exactly why the raiders never win consistently...i think the truth here is the NFL doesn't want the raiders having an elite qb because they want to see those money making super stars succeed but the NFL doesn't want the raiders winning like that.
These clowns are underestimating Aidan O'Connell. AOC doesn't have a cannon arm but he's got tons of moxie/confidence.
During the 12-4 Jack Del Rio year the defense was still bad but that team had one of the highest scoring offenses that won all those games
I believe this. If Carr didn't get hurt, we would've went deep into the playoffs, miss those times.
Actually they were 2nd in the league in turnovers which is why that defense allowed the offense to win a lot of games.
Highest paid o line and reggie mckenzie was making a huge splash at GM. Things fell apart when they let go of OC bill Musgrave the following season
@jocool562 Carr wanted his QB coach to be his OC that's why he was let go.
@@j.olacio5298 Todd downing??
I’ve been screaming this forever, the Raiders need a defense! How y’all not seeing this ever?! Jones is absolutely right! The raiders havnt had a defense for 20 years!
Lol who with eyes can't see that😂 Who's ya'll
u gone be saying that till all of a sudden your defense is good and your offense sucks. Saw it happen to my giants
You don't win with a great QB. You win with a great defense.
Yea your not smart. You need both. Clearly this didn’t age well
The 49ers lost 3 games already to elite qbs your never getting to the big dance without the qb...its exactly what's holding the raiders back they never had a super star qb and the truth is i dont think the NFL wants a super stars in Vegas because then they have to watch the raiders become great again if you keep going with that mentality we dont need a great qb you're never winning in this league...james jones has been a loser for the raiders show every show was the same thing they need to do this they need to do that but never win coming from a guy who played with arron Rodgers its a joke.
It's a qb league now ya you need a good defense but to win need to put it in the end zone facts
You win with BOTH😊 FEELING ME?😅
thank you james talk some sense into this man he is lost
Facts
Dude sounds like an idiot
Wasn’t John Allen drafted outside the top 10? Or what about Patrick mahomes? You DONT need a top 2 pick to get a great QB
@casper7869 Yes, he was a bit off target..but his point still stands. Mahomes was the 10th pick, and Allen the 7th pick. You don't need to move up to the very top of a draft to get a great QB.
@@Sinsled1978 You still chose to miss the point...which was excatly what the original poster said...that you don't need to draft at the very top of a draft to get a great QB. And you're welcome.
@@Sinsled1978 "You DONT need a top 2 pick to get a great QB". How is that not correct? That was his point. He was wrong about the exact spots where the QB's he mentioned were drafted, but his point still stands.
@@Sinsled1978 You make some lame, rude comment pointing out that part of someone's comment was factually incorrect while completely ignoring their point..throw in a childish "lmao"..and then resort to personal attacks. It's pretty obvious who the "kid" here is.
@@Sinsled1978 Dude go get a gf and stop being mad at everyone
What poetic justice! The guy you jettisoned Carr for got you fired!
James: “Geno Generational? They winning? Kenny Pickett generation ? They winning? Zach Wilson generational? They winning? Dak Prescott generational? They winning? Matt Ryan generational?”
TLC said it best.. don't go chasing waterfalls. Generational QB chasing is a trap, build the team up first and hope to get lucky and have one all in your lap or you'll have nothing. And yes I also cant believe I just quoted TLC
Thank you James Jones for real man... We needed that...
Yes, a defensive-minded HC is our dying wish. After all, defense wins championships.
Not anymore offense wins chips
@night_wolf6621 and your mom still be sukn my dck
@@night_wolf6621 Only for the Chiefs.
Much more common to win championships with a great offense with a competent defense than a bad offense and great defense. This season for the Raiders should be an example of how that mantra really isn’t the case in today’s league most of the time. The Raiders defense has done enough most games to give the team a chance to win consistently if the team had a competent to good offense. The defense hasn’t been elite by any means but they’ve definitely been good enough that the offense has had the chance in most of the games to win. If your defense gives up 24 or so points a good offense can win a lot of those games but obviously not a horrible one that is averaging 16 points a game.
If your offense is playing so badly to only average 16 points a game your defense has to play at an absolutely elite level every single game to even have a chance to win and that’s a ton to ask of even the best of defenses. Look at teams this season like the Browns, Saints and Falcons who have all seen really good play form their defenses yet are at or barely above a .500 record because they aren’t scoring. Your defense can’t be awful and you expect to win but if you have an offense that can put up in the mid 20s every week and a defense that can do well enough to keep teams around that same amount of points you will more often than not win a lot of games. Look even at the Super Bowl. Both teams scored 30+. The Chiefs defense stepped up in the second half and played a major part of the win but the defense was never an elite defense.
The offense was obviously very good the entire season. The eagles defense had been one of the top in the league the entire season and their offense was obviously very good as well. But notice how a defense that had been one of the best in the league the entire season wasn’t able to stifle all the scoring when the offense they were playing was led by an elite QB. If they didn’t have a good offense they’d have been pummeled but because they also had a really good offense their defense didn’t have to be expected to somehow keep a Mahomes from scoring which isn’t going to happen but simply to get some key stops that allowed for their talented offense to get enough of an edge to win like KC did. But if the team can’t score they’ll not see any serious contention because even Mahomes at his worst is almost always going to score at least 20 points.
@@ActorJose4Real The last time the defense won a championship was 2019 Pats Vs Rams Super Bowl the Las time the defense carried a team to a superbowl was 2015. Other than that every team that went to the Super Bowl had a really good offense
The raiders dont need a generational qb. They need a good offensive line and a quarterback who can play mistake free football. Running back, receivers, tight end are all set. Defense is getting better each week, 2 players away from being great.
In a division with a mahomes and a Herbert, we need a generational qb. I get it we need to ramp up the d and olines but if you don’t have a qb that can got toe to toe with mahomes, we’ll never get past em
The answer is not to outscore Mahomes. It's to stop him. Defense is the answer. Something the Raiders know very little about but should learn real quick.
@@UpsonPrattJr. for sure but having a mediocre qb isn’t gonna work in today’s NFL. I’m tired of mediocre or middle of the pack guys like Carr or Jimmy G. The defense isn’t gonna be that hard to fix they’ve played relatively well so far. We need to get our QB
@@paytonhurde4092He's not saying mediocre just one who can get the job done. The chances of getting a generational talent is one in a million. A Burrow, Allen, Tua, Mahomes, Herbert, etc. takes insane amounts of luck to get and even if you get a top QB in the draft how do you guarantee that's the guy? All you really need is a QB who can make limited mistakes.
The raiders haven’t had a top 20 defense in the last 10-15 years. Carr has put in like 25 points a game to compete.
Re: "generational QB"... Mahomes was grabbed with the 10th pick in his draft. Even if the Raiders don't have an early pick they could get lucky...
They need to be the “bad boys” again. They need to be like my Lions, a team of rag tag warriors who may be overlooked & underrated by pundits & experts & players alike but who fight to the freaking death & never give up. That’s what they need to
More player coaches is a must for the NFL.
Why’s everyone counting AOC out already??? Cause of that reason I feel he’s gonna shock everyone
Because everyone is casual nowadays and think you need the first pick of the draft to be successful for a quarterback
It’s gonna be interesting. No more mcdumbass to force qbs to play his play cause if you’re not Brady, audible out his play and you get crucified by him. we’re gonna find out Sunday.
@@natedogg7488 Look at the Panthers !
Agreed. O'Connell may very well be a solid - Jared Goff style - QB.
@@jeanfourcade That’s all you need because you have Davante Adams, Hunter Renfrow, Josh Jacobs, Michael Mayer so you have weapons on offense
#89 Speaking the TRUTH💪🏿🖤👊🏿
James Jones is the true gem of this show. He needs either to become a permanent fixture, or needs a show developed around his style along with Shady perhaps, they go hard at each other but it feels like its all love.
He talking that talk….. you don’t need a generational talent at quarterback.
James is right. You don't need a mvp level QB. You need a good defense or a good QB.
Antonio Pierce might be that guy the Raiders have needed all along.
No he’s not, the man killed a family of 4 in a car accident but his buddy said he was driving Bs it was AP
@@Poppin_off_with_panoswhat does that have to do with coaching a football team you fool
@Arch_Lancaster man wtf you talkin bout
@@Poppin_off_with_panoshow long have you known Josh McDaniels.. definitely 110% you exactly sounds like him 😂. You 🤡. Go ahead join him because right now he needs a tight hug with a love 💕 Bwahahahah
Here’s the thing. You need a great TEAM. You win championships with great defenses. But you also need to score points. A good offense needs to score above 20 points consistently, that’s easy to do if you have a semi good offense. A good defense will keep the opposing side down and wear out the strongest of offenses. Keep that offense below 20 and you will win games.
Playing the kid is brilliant he is either going to show you he's the guy, He's the bridge or he's going to be terrible and they end up with a high pick to get a QB in the deepest QB draft in year
Exactly...it's a win, win situation.
what if he's 50/50 and plays just well enough to get yall out of a top QB pick
@@elilandrum2017 I think that even if he's just decent, the Raiders still end up with a top 10 pick. That would still leave them within striking range of one of the top 4 QB's in a stacked QB class..even if they have to make a trade to move up a few spots. If he's bad, they'll get a shot at one of the top 3 QB...and if he balls out, then they can focus on fortifying the trenches.
@@edwinramos4910 Thats true, I forgot you can always trade up thanks for the explanation.
@@elilandrum2017 You're welcome
normally Joy is annoying, but as a raider fan her opinion about how my football team has operated the past 20years is pretty spot on😂😂
Does Tom Brady count as a generational QB? Just asking because he was a 5th rounder who started as a backup, and well, you know how it went…
I think he was a 6th of 7th rounder actually, great point lets go AOC
He was a 6th rounder. But clearly finding your franchise QB that becomes a HOF player and wins tons of superbowls in late rounds of the draft has been extremely common throughout the history of the game and not a rare anomaly that has been spoken of so many times due to how amazing it was to have drafted arguably the greatest QB ever in the 6th round because his intangibles and mindset are things that draft measurements don’t account for and led to a generational player playing far above his physical abilities like Tom did.
Of the 57 super bowls in league history a QB drafted in the first round has won 31 of them. The rounds other than the first with the highest number of wins is round 6 with 8 and round 3 with 7. No other round has more than 3. And those two rounds obviously have an inflated total considering 4/7 in round three are Joe Montana and 7/8 in round 6 are Tom Brady. As for round 4 like the rookie? 1.
What does this indicate? That throughout the history of the game clearly the most success as measured by winning superbowls is with QBs that teams pick highly because they demonstrate the most skill and upside to invest your franchise on. Arguing for a late round guy by pointing to Tom is nothing more than saying that because a couple teams were able to hit the jackpot with a guy that wasn’t the lauded prospect in the draft because those two men were simply the anomolies that many consider to be the two best to ever play and nobody predicted to accomplish anything close to what they did is a strong basis to plot the future of your franchise because in the 57 seasons we’ve had a superbowl there happened to be two guys who accomplished something historical. It isn’t the sexy argument but clearly over half of all superbowls have been won by the stereotypical talent evaluation process of picking the best guy available and hoping he lives up to it and maybe placing your future that you will be the third in the history of the game to find the diamond that nobody else was able to see that becomes elite isn’t the best bet to make. But who knows it s happened twice in nearly 60 years so it’s theoretically possible 🙃
6th round 199th pick
I'm with James on this one. You do not necessarily need a generational QB to win superbowls (ala Eli Manning, Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, etc.). You build up the culture and the team first and then you can try and find your QB. All you need to do is get into the playoffs, then anything can happen (Eagles with Foles, 9-7 Giants, etc.). You up your chances up going on a lucky playoff run the more times you are in the playoffs, which involves needing a consistently solid TEAM to do it.
Need a top defense though. Can't have a defense who gets trampled over running the ball. They need tackles desperately. LB's are also weak. Defensive backs can't tackle either.
@@Banner18TheTruth That's why Raider fans should be hype about Antonio Pierce. Dude bleeds defense and knows what one looks like
@@crenshaw46 True but you still need players. They have improved some but still weak. Is he gonna take over the defense. The Bears game was despicable. Totally trounced and run over.
James Jones was spittin this segment
Well said J.J. Raiders need Balance Offensive Defensive
The Raiders offense has been a ticking time bomb; now the fuse has been lit for this Sundays game with the removal of the Oxygen-less Former Head Coach
The last 20 yrs the Dolphins has been just as bad as the Raiders. What is Joy talking about?
It was hilarious to see James put that man on blast 😂😭
To be successful in the NFL you need a lot of different things but a generational QB is not 1 the Ravens beat the Giants in the Super Bowl and there QB was Trent Dilfer and the Giants QB was Kerry Collins not generational
Great segment
This is the best sports talk show on TV, period. The culture and the characters on this show are head and shoulders over any show on TV: This show works, and it just clicks on all cylinders.
It’s not about getting an expensive guy to play qb .. build a development system that allows players to elevate each other thus is a qb goes down another steps in
This show is flawless now. James Jones was the perfect addition.
Our mindset is back. We haven't looked this good since 02 .
Derek Carr never had a top 20 defense in his tenure for the Raiders. But what do everybody say? Well he never won a playoff game.
People like Acho who uses Wins and Losses as QB stat will have you believe that Jimmy G is better than Carr. How does that look now?
I hear you, James Jones. But I’m a raider fan. And when Dale Rio was there, we had one of the historically bad defects defense. Khalil Mack was there right around 2016 the 12 in four season that you speak of our defense couldn’t stop a cold, the whole Dell Rio experience, but we need a better drafting team. We might get one player every five or six drafts.
Only one man on that stage was giving my Raiders the respect they deserve. Can't wait to see their reactions when we shock the world! RN4L🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
What about kyler Murray. He still has potential and can at least find his receivers.
Loving this Praying Always your Right
Tailgating at The Coliseum was lit, i never came with a ticket but somehow always ended up getting in. Most of the bay can catch Bart there it was so accessible
I think the raiders should keep Antonio pierce and go drafting trade and or cut Jimmy G and let's get cracking
I think it's still early talking new coach without seeing what A. Pierce can do. By end of the year we'll know if you need a new coach or coordinator. Even if AOC cooks, you still have to draft another QB, let JG and Hoyer go and possibly get a quality #2 to have 3 QB's that compete for QB1.
Not a single one of these people watched a Raiders preseason game.
Antonio Pierce was a baller for the Giants. It’s coming back to me now. Yeah I remember using the Chargers and LT back in Madden 06 and just *DUSTING* off Pierce for a TD. 🥲 sorry Pierce your a Raider now so the rivalry begins 😂.
Thought you were a chiefs fan for a sec 😮💨. Easy work in the rematch 🤡
@@lasvegasreacherssmfh1407 😝😂😂
@@df6148 😂😂
@@lasvegasreacherssmfh1407 I had to start Josh Jacobs in fantasy 🏈 because I knew Pierce was looking to show out vs the Giants this week. Didn’t think he was gonna run it up like that though!
The Patrick Mahomes store 😂😂😂😂 joy be funny for real. 😂
Agree with James jones here. Build that defense around Maxx C . Then keep searching for that QB .
James talking that realness
If there is a generational QB out there, you take that QB, James Jones.
Dude, O'Connell has played a heartbeat in the league. You have to give him a chance before you write him off.
I remember one player's coach saying , I ask only three things from you show up on time, do your Job and play hard when I tell you to
I think they already have that with O'Connell and pearce
Jones hit the nail on the head this segment
Shady talkin bout Chandler Jones hilarious lol
As always, Joy says the most obvious things
As soon as Raiders start winning, people will realize they had Davante Adams, Josh Jacobs, Hunter Renfrow, Jakobi Meyers, Michael Mayer, Tre Tucker all along. Its not rocket science, O'Connell can sling it too.
You're right, it's not...but the problem is what they don't have...a reliable OL. Outside of Kolton Miller, the Raiders OL is comprised of guys who woudn't start for the vast majority of NFL teams.
You can have all the skill position talent in the world, but it won't amount to much if they're having to rely on an OL with too many players with practice squad level talent on it. Outside of a lack of effective leadership, this was McDaniels and Zieglers greatest failure...they focused too much on skill positions instead of trying to solidify the trenches first.
RaiderNation 4LIFEEE can’t wait for Sunday 🖤🤍🖤🤍
Someone get James Jones a medal of honor. He is 100000% correct. Build that defense that hasn't been good in 20 years. Which is exactly how long they haven't been in a super bowl or won a playoff game. Build a defensive identity.
“It’s not easy to find a generational quarterback” 💯
Joy always seem to make the most sense in using logic. Babygirl always on point.
Give my man Aidan O’Connell a chance!
Nahhh you don't "have to" have a generational QB or great head coach to win games. Even the so-called greats can falter on any given Sunday. You just need to be well-balanced with chemistry. Good defense, good offense, and good coaching can beat the greats depending on the matchups and execution.
Pierce gonna have ice cube sing the nation anthem 😂
I hate the stupid "generational QB" argument. There's they are called "generational". It means that they come once in a generation. By definition, they are rare. So, while you hope you can land one, what the Raiders need to do is build a good team. Maybe AOC can be a solid QB until they find "the one". He can turn out to be a great player. Who knows? But we won't know if we don't start him. As a Raiders fan, I've seen a lot of bad Raiders teams. But this year has to be the lowest of the low. We need to truly start building something. Because we have talented players and their talent shouldn't be wasted.
Bingo
QB's right place, right time,right system, Jeff Hostetler, trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, Joe Flacco, Brad Johnson, (Eli Manning?), Russell Willson, Nick Foles. Eli has the same amount of wins as losses, but those superbowl wins Look amazing! Except for Eli, I don't think they were generational QB's.
Thanks JJ 🙏🏾
Something to prove💯🏴☠️🔥🍻
Coach is #1, 2. Defense, 3. Qb protect the ball..and Win just win, baby
The blueprint for the Raiders to turn this around exists and it's the Brad Holmes/Dan Campbell Lions. I think Pierce might be their Campbell.
good video 👍🏼👍🏼🏈🏈🏈🏈📹📺💯
I gotta NEW segment 4 yall...It's called "SMACK DA ISH ACHO"..so when my guy ACHO makes a bad call... they can run it the following week after Monday....HILARIOUS!!!
Was Eli Manning a generational QB? No but still won two super bowls. Proving the fact that you don't need a generational QB to win.
I'd take a good disciplined, smart team over just a great qb.
The Nation has coach AP back! RN4L 🏴☠️
As a Raiders fan, this was a great week. McDaniels isn't a real HC, benching Jimmy G is a good move. Also as a Raiders fan, I am skeptical of a positive long term turnaround until Mark Davis stops meddling so much. Hopefully they hire a solid coach and give him some job security - and not only because they are still paying the last 2 HCs 😂😭
Michigan State, Jim Harbaugh at the end of the season definitely he will come to the Las Vegas Raiders facilities and sign a four year contract.😮
You don't need a generational QB to be competitive. If you have a strong front office you can put together a competitive team without a Mahomes or a Burrow or an Allen
Jones gets it. I loved how he went down the list of who is and is not a generational talent.
James Jones dressing like it's 1970and he's Clyde Frazier.
James had them when he started naming QBs that aren’t generational but their teams are successful
Tell me, what if Aiden for the rest of the season is great?
Don't expect much then the disappointment won't be as bad. This is what we need to do to get this organization headed in the right direction. KC eagles 49ers teams with consistency they don't change their roster every year and they are always the team's to beat. Let's get this right Raiders
You keep Pierce and Kelly as HC and GM. Use the draft picks wisely and establish the identity of this team.
Looks to me like a Mike Singletary type hire. I hope he is more than a rah rah short term fix.
Pierce, Gruden, or Bisaccia. And Renfro would regain the allegedly lost step under martinet McD, with either. But it seems as if all recent coaches are also given an exit door in their offices. Jimmy Geroppolo had concrete feet in the last game.
For the love of GOD WE THE RAIDERS HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE STARS AND HEISMAN TROPHY WINNERS IN RUNNING BACKS WIDE RECEIVERSS, FABULOUS OFFENSIVE LINES MAN, GANGSTER DEFENSIVE MEN, WE JUST NEVER HAD A GENERATION QUATER BACKS EVER . EVERY SO AND SO A DECENT COACH BUT WE NE A BETTER ONE! PLEASE
Emmanuel Acho criticism of Aiden Oconnell is based on the round he was taken in not whether or not he is a good QB then he mentions Mahomes and Herbert in 1983 Jim Plunkett played against HOF Fouts and Elway go look up how that worked out
People throw around the term “generational” QB so easy. Those guys are literally one or two guys every 15-20 years. Basically someone you can 100% say is a Hall of Famer when they retire.
Man I can see how you work with Joy Taylor and not ask for at 😊least a hug every day wow
Raiders? Cmon man!😳
They needed Gruden.
It is easier to find a new general then build a new army.