There are solutions to all problems buying another tune doesn't sound like the best solution. We have tuned hundreds and hundreds of bmws (actual number is in the thousands) Have an issue? Datalog! Send in logs! Etc..... You can always email us or call us for help! If you really end up not happy you can have us connect. Unflash the car, mail back your stuff and get your money back. Our goal is happy customers. I do what I love and want people to enjoy our products!
Don't get me wrong. I know, and many others know you are a very skilled tuner with great experience. A local to me has a built s52 with a gt30 turbo swapped in an e30 that you tuned and it has been breaking hearts around here for years no problems. Runs strong. It is just time to try something new, not necessarily better. I've sent multiple data logs with responses from you that nothing seems wrong. You definitely know better than I do especially on that front. That's the reason I changed a bunch of parts before deciding to change software at the very last. BMW shops tell me mechanically or electronically nothing is wrong either. There's literally nothing else I can swap on the car with hardware since I've already done pretty much everything. The only thing left for me to change is the software at this point. For the sake of being able to drive this car after not being able to pass emissions for 12 months, I'm just continuing to troubleshoot.
I'm a fairly new E36 owner so I'm by no means an expert, but from what I've learned so far, the stock injectors are already pretty well maxed out with the stock tune. So, with the greater airflow of your Dinan intake, M50 manifold, and especially the tune, I would guess your M3 was running pretty lean. Even with a better MAF this could cause a host of issues, as the computer would be demanding more fuel than the poor 21 pounders were capable of delivering. With the new injectors, the required fuel can be delivered, and voilà! I'd be willing to bet it's the customers with all the intake mods having problems with RK, and the customers that kept their airboxes that were problem free. I've followed your channel for some time now, and this last Memorial Day finally bought my very own '97 M3 coupe in Hellrot. I l o v e this car and will never look back!
USA the biggest aggressor in the world , the biggest polluter , the greatest country without any WLTP regulations , but they say they are after saving the planet....no words.
I'm so happy you got your car back. And those words you said, when you don't drive your car every day so it suprises you like it's your first time. Eh, car people lol. You seemed so positive in this video, raised my mood as well. Keep it tight brother, cheers
About 2 months ago i bought a 1996 M3 coupe eurospec (I live in Germany), your channel (especially those awsome canyon runs) definatley had a big influence on my decision to buy it and i couldnt be happier! thx for the nice vids and greetz from the other side of the world!
I'm so glad that your M3 is finally fixed! It means more videos coming. I also got a question. sometimes I hear a rattle when I'm releasing the clutch on my M3 (I hear it mostly after driving for 1 and a half hours or more). Is it really a clutch problem or something else?
Just to add some more informations about this. These are in fact Volvo injectors, type 'EV6'. It's a major difference over the stock E36 injectors (type 'EV1'), because these 'EV6' injectors have 4 discharge outlet holes instead of one single for the 'EV1' stock type. It's a newer technology with a better fuel atomization/spray pattern, and a faster response time. So it's not just about flow rate in your case, but also a different injector design. I have been using these injectors on my euro S50B32 since 2016, as they have an almost identical flow rate than the stock ones, and they are an interesting upgrade/replacement.
Let me clarify here. Jordan at RK is a very talented tuner. I've seen a lot of reliable turbo BMWs making a lot of power tuned by him. Remote tunes are always a bit more challenging than in person. I'd be willing to give him a shot on another tune on a diff car but it just wasn't working out on this one with this setup and the service too too long for me to keep waiting forever for answers. Luckily I was able to sort this out. Keep ripping, my friends!
Great work man. I'm dealing with a very comparable issue, and guess what I'm dealing with next... Yep, fuel. My comparable issue endured through a tune, which was by Jordan RK. Go ahead and do yourself a favor and talk to Zack at 22rpd. He's the shiz. Second to none.
Everytime i get behind the wheel of my E36 i get 40 smiles per gallon. See what i did there? Have never tinkered w the tune, about to get a stromung exhaust. Car runs like a champ and no issues w my S52 ever.
LOL So I know I'm late to the party but next time you need to change injectors... Pull fuse 7 (fuel pump) and run it out of fuel first. No pressure or fuel in the rail. Did mine years ago when I put in Turner Stage 3 in the dark in my apartment parking lot without spilling a drop. (actually one of the new injectors had a bad O-ring so I had to do that one a second time after smelling fuel the whole first day)
Oh I dropped the Turner tune and went with AA when I added the Schrick cams and deleted the SAP because Turner doesn't do SAP delete in their Shark... FYI
Your video makes me want to go out and drive the e36 M3 that I already daily drive! Glad to hear you have it running again. M50 manifold and a tune is totally woth it. Ive been playing with the tune myself with Rom Raider and have found some nice power mostly with the ignition advance. I haven't found a need for bigger injectors, though I do own a set.
@@andrewp7023 I did not dyno my car, at least not the M3. I chose Romraider as I needed something that I could tune myself on my very custom e36 328is project car, I built an engine head for it. The software has phenomenal support and is actively always being improved by the community that developed it. I have control over basically every useful table in the ecu. I do highly recommend it and the price is right (free). I did have to buy a flashing software and a cable that all was about $45.
I don't know how it in the USA. But in our country You can go to a service and check injectors and make special procedure of cleaning. Usually it helps to renew injectors.
Congrats on fixing the car. Do you have an extra maf laying around anywhere? Btw... When taking off the plugs of the injector, i used a small pick to push the little clip to the side. Then i wiggle the wire harness so it goes pass the little notch. Then i put the clips back in place because i know im gonna lose it lol(i was cleaning the injectors). For the clips on the fuel rails, i just use a plier.( i launched one with a flathead into the bushes and lost it. Got some from the junk yards) Hope this help people in the future on a similar job like this.
I upgraded to 24lb injectors with Shark tune and the car is alive. That ASC light , I fixed it by changing the ABS sensor located in the front face of the brake booster. Pain in the butt to remove but it can be done.
im into this e36 but only can afford sedan 4d…….this month will take it home….after 20yrs now i can end my dreams to get this car and walkaround my family….
$45 to tank it, you lucky bast. That's £35.00GBP. To tank my e36 it's £75.00 or $95.00 USD. Great videos man. Love the car. Don't run out of talent and mangle it! :D
Yeah, for that reason exactly I stopped shopping on ecs tuning. I primarily use fcp euro now. And if I can’t find it on there, I’ll dig elsewhere. I don’t like ecs tuning anymore.
Go with Turners shark injector tune for the M50 package. Tried and true and developed by Jim Conforti who was one of the pioneers in OBD2 tuning for these platforms.
You should never fit any type of seal or o ring without lubrication. If you fit them dry ,they can snag against the metal and get damaged, possible causing leakage. Use the correct lubricant.
And yeah....not getting an RK Tune... not trying to be a dick, but my s52 with nothing more than a m50 mani, intake and corsa catback seems to pull harder than yours. Something is definitely not right. Have you serviced the vanos and set the timing yet?
That’s one of the reasons as to why I never order from ECS TUNING anymore. I work at UPS, and I guarantee you that those small plastic bags get LAUNCHED.
Glad to see you got it sorted out man! Surprising that it runs that well without a tune for the lager injectors. Any idea on who your going with for the new tune!?
For sure! I have a tune from 22rpd. Highly recommended and my car runs well with it. Thought about Kassel but really liked format on the 22rpd website.
Dude...I think that "pin" you ripped out is a spring. I could be wrong since it has been a while since I replaced my injectors. Pretty sure you literally just press on it with your finger to release the connector. Other than that, good job on solving your car's issues! I would give ECS Tuning a nasty phone call if my new injectors came in an unpadded envelope.
Funny thing is I was thinking "why couldn't they have just made these like the rest of the connectors that you just press to release?!" They are different and unfortunately need to be removed... Thanks for watching!
Treats On The Streets oh, ok. Glad to see your car back on the streets. I will hopefully be using your subframe related videos in the near future as a guide.
heheh, I knew it was those injector O-Rings man. That was 100% a faulty injector problem, glad it was all sorted out & remember to lube the damn o-rings. You can check out TRM Tuning & see if they have any tuning solutions for your build, little bit pricey but they're one of the best for tuning an s52 or... you can swap in an s54?! juuuust sayin.. you're about at the power plateau for that s52.
I have a built E36 M3 that had a RK tunes software and it ran like crap! I know and found what the issue was. Sounds like RK is still spewing the same bullshit to everyone who buys his tune with no solution to fix!
You're alive! I think this is a sign that I should go for the E36 as my first car!
Every comment you guys put on my channel I mark as spam. Give it a rest
There are solutions to all problems buying another tune doesn't sound like the best solution. We have tuned hundreds and hundreds of bmws (actual number is in the thousands)
Have an issue? Datalog! Send in logs! Etc..... You can always email us or call us for help! If you really end up not happy you can have us connect. Unflash the car, mail back your stuff and get your money back. Our goal is happy customers. I do what I love and want people to enjoy our products!
Don't get me wrong. I know, and many others know you are a very skilled tuner with great experience. A local to me has a built s52 with a gt30 turbo swapped in an e30 that you tuned and it has been breaking hearts around here for years no problems. Runs strong. It is just time to try something new, not necessarily better. I've sent multiple data logs with responses from you that nothing seems wrong. You definitely know better than I do especially on that front. That's the reason I changed a bunch of parts before deciding to change software at the very last. BMW shops tell me mechanically or electronically nothing is wrong either. There's literally nothing else I can swap on the car with hardware since I've already done pretty much everything. The only thing left for me to change is the software at this point. For the sake of being able to drive this car after not being able to pass emissions for 12 months, I'm just continuing to troubleshoot.
I'm a fairly new E36 owner so I'm by no means an expert, but from what I've learned so far, the stock injectors are already pretty well maxed out with the stock tune. So, with the greater airflow of your Dinan intake, M50 manifold, and especially the tune, I would guess your M3 was running pretty lean. Even with a better MAF this could cause a host of issues, as the computer would be demanding more fuel than the poor 21 pounders were capable of delivering. With the new injectors, the required fuel can be delivered, and voilà! I'd be willing to bet it's the customers with all the intake mods having problems with RK, and the customers that kept their airboxes that were problem free.
I've followed your channel for some time now, and this last Memorial Day finally bought my very own '97 M3 coupe in Hellrot. I l o v e this car and will never look back!
45 dollars for a full tank? I need 100 euros in Greece for my 316i
USA the biggest aggressor in the world , the biggest polluter , the greatest country without any WLTP regulations , but they say they are after saving the planet....no words.
@stubbk3 I agree with you . I'm gonna sell my 316 and hopefully I'll get a 318is.. 320 325 and so are out of the question for me
pacho kardana the biggest polluter... HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH
@@pachokardana6192 India and China are the biggest polluters 😐
filled up my SUV, 20.5 gallons, for 26 bucks
Aye! Good to see this thing back on the road.
Ahsuh duhd!
@@I.Odnamra aw sawh dud
You west coast guys are so lucky, what up Q
@@mikeb2496 yo what up M!
My boy menace !
I'm so happy you got your car back. And those words you said, when you don't drive your car every day so it suprises you like it's your first time. Eh, car people lol.
You seemed so positive in this video, raised my mood as well. Keep it tight brother, cheers
About 2 months ago i bought a 1996 M3 coupe eurospec (I live in Germany), your channel (especially those awsome canyon runs) definatley had a big influence on my decision to buy it and i couldnt be happier! thx for the nice vids and greetz from the other side of the world!
get the old injectors flow tested to confirm it was the issue
11:35 I had two of those civics, now i'm going to see what i hope my first E36 tomorrow
I'm so glad that your M3 is finally fixed! It means more videos coming. I also got a question. sometimes I hear a rattle when I'm releasing the clutch on my M3 (I hear it mostly after driving for 1 and a half hours or more). Is it really a clutch problem or something else?
Throw out bearing is the most likely culprit....
Just to add some more informations about this.
These are in fact Volvo injectors, type 'EV6'. It's a major difference over the stock E36 injectors (type 'EV1'), because these 'EV6' injectors have 4 discharge outlet holes instead of one single for the 'EV1' stock type. It's a newer technology with a better fuel atomization/spray pattern, and a faster response time. So it's not just about flow rate in your case, but also a different injector design.
I have been using these injectors on my euro S50B32 since 2016, as they have an almost identical flow rate than the stock ones, and they are an interesting upgrade/replacement.
I absolutely love the way your car sounds. I have a fully stock n52 and it screams at the higher rpms.
Love this page, one thing I’m really jealous about is the gas price out there 😭 Socal was just at $4.30 for 91 and barely starting to go down!
Let me clarify here. Jordan at RK is a very talented tuner. I've seen a lot of reliable turbo BMWs making a lot of power tuned by him. Remote tunes are always a bit more challenging than in person. I'd be willing to give him a shot on another tune on a diff car but it just wasn't working out on this one with this setup and the service too too long for me to keep waiting forever for answers. Luckily I was able to sort this out. Keep ripping, my friends!
Great work man. I'm dealing with a very comparable issue, and guess what I'm dealing with next... Yep, fuel.
My comparable issue endured through a tune, which was by Jordan RK.
Go ahead and do yourself a favor and talk to Zack at 22rpd. He's the shiz. Second to none.
Had a bad tune thru rk too
Everytime i get behind the wheel of my E36 i get 40 smiles per gallon. See what i did there? Have never tinkered w the tune, about to get a stromung exhaust. Car runs like a champ and no issues w my S52 ever.
LOL So I know I'm late to the party but next time you need to change injectors... Pull fuse 7 (fuel pump) and run it out of fuel first. No pressure or fuel in the rail.
Did mine years ago when I put in Turner Stage 3 in the dark in my apartment parking lot without spilling a drop.
(actually one of the new injectors had a bad O-ring so I had to do that one a second time after smelling fuel the whole first day)
Oh I dropped the Turner tune and went with AA when I added the Schrick cams and deleted the SAP because Turner doesn't do SAP delete in their Shark... FYI
Had this issue, mine was a clogged injector on cylinder 1. Cleaned all the injectors and it ran perfectly.
Great to hear man! I'm sure kicking off the tune will help it run even better. Keep us updated!
Yay!! Good to see you back!! I figured you got married or something :)
Wow thats crazy. Everything I buy from ECS is packaged with tons of padding.
Your video makes me want to go out and drive the e36 M3 that I already daily drive! Glad to hear you have it running again.
M50 manifold and a tune is totally woth it. Ive been playing with the tune myself with Rom Raider and have found some nice power mostly with the ignition advance. I haven't found a need for bigger injectors, though I do own a set.
John Pearson -Have you dynoed your car before and after? What influenced your decision to choose Romraider tune vs others?
@@andrewp7023 I did not dyno my car, at least not the M3.
I chose Romraider as I needed something that I could tune myself on my very custom e36 328is project car, I built an engine head for it. The software has phenomenal support and is actively always being improved by the community that developed it. I have control over basically every useful table in the ecu. I do highly recommend it and the price is right (free). I did have to buy a flashing software and a cable that all was about $45.
Can you tell me about your coilovers setup?
How much lower is it in front and rear what did you use exactly to lower it?
czcams.com/video/GKKEQj-aB_I/video.html
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I don't know how it in the USA. But in our country You can go to a service and check injectors and make special procedure of cleaning. Usually it helps to renew injectors.
Congrats on fixing the car.
Do you have an extra maf laying around anywhere?
Btw... When taking off the plugs of the injector, i used a small pick to push the little clip to the side. Then i wiggle the wire harness so it goes pass the little notch. Then i put the clips back in place because i know im gonna lose it lol(i was cleaning the injectors). For the clips on the fuel rails, i just use a plier.( i launched one with a flathead into the bushes and lost it. Got some from the junk yards)
Hope this help people in the future on a similar job like this.
I upgraded to 24lb injectors with Shark tune and the car is alive. That ASC light , I fixed it by changing the ABS sensor located in the front face of the brake booster. Pain in the butt to remove but it can be done.
So glad to see it looks like its getting sorted I missed the e36 content
Am buying a ‘95 E36 this week. Hopefully i have yall on here for guidance when shit hits the fan
im into this e36 but only can afford sedan 4d…….this month will take it home….after 20yrs now i can end my dreams to get this car and walkaround my family….
$45 to tank it, you lucky bast. That's £35.00GBP. To tank my e36 it's £75.00 or $95.00 USD. Great videos man. Love the car. Don't run out of talent and mangle it! :D
Yeah, for that reason exactly I stopped shopping on ecs tuning. I primarily use fcp euro now. And if I can’t find it on there, I’ll dig elsewhere. I don’t like ecs tuning anymore.
For people that do not want gas out of the fuel rail I suggest pulling the gas pump fuse while car is idling.
That keychain is awesome
good job, I can't wait to see more of your e36
Glad to see your faith in ///M has been restored!!! Keep up the good work :D
Go with Turners shark injector tune for the M50 package. Tried and true and developed by Jim Conforti who was one of the pioneers in OBD2 tuning for these platforms.
Lot Meet naw. Shorty headers, 3.5” maf, tb, schrick cams, 24lb injectors and a modified alpina tune
$7 a gallon in UK . Our gallon is 4,546 liters yours is 3.785 liters , So not a direct comparison but still bloody dear here.
You work very exactly, I would let you work on my BMW 's any time haha
I have the same exact issue but have changed the injectors 🤗 gonna do that next!!
Thanks so much, beautiful video, beautiful car!
Hey, I'm glad the car is running better! Any ideas which tuning company you're going with next? Turner?
You should never fit any type of seal or o ring without lubrication. If you fit them dry ,they can snag against the metal and get damaged, possible causing leakage. Use the correct lubricant.
Dude, you're back. Holy sh...
What’s the part number for the injectors or what car did they come out of?
And yeah....not getting an RK Tune... not trying to be a dick, but my s52 with nothing more than a m50 mani, intake and corsa catback seems to pull harder than yours. Something is definitely not right. Have you serviced the vanos and set the timing yet?
45 bucks for a full tank? What a time and place. Here in sweden to fill up my e36 its almost 150 bucks…
$45 to fill a tank is cool, in the UK it take $85 to fill my E36 wagon.
Cool vid
its about $65 now. goes up everyday. Come summertime, it'll probably $80
Glad that fixed it. Nice easy swap. Please open your garage door when you start the car don't die from carbon monoxide poisoning my dude.
ECS is the worst sometimes
Lol, cool. I never would have thought injectors
Great video. What steering is it?
You can also get a rebuild kit for your existing injectors for less than $20.
I might just do that and get rid of em. 👍
ECS sends in boxes when you order more then one thing
Finally no check engine light 😍 i hope that new tune would solve most of your problems 😁
i got the tms chip in my 92 325i rktunes doesnt tune my car its not nice enough for their fancy tuning shop
Love your videos. Love my e36 m3. DON'T run your car with the garage door closed!!!
That’s one of the reasons as to why I never order from ECS TUNING anymore. I work at UPS, and I guarantee you that those small plastic bags get LAUNCHED.
idk their pretty cool, they sent me a part for free with next day shipping bexcause it didnt get sent out at the same time
@@xpeacemaster so what do you want a 🍪?😂😂😂
@@PeterFeltersnatch852 okay 2000s baby
FUCK ECS TUNING THEY DONT ADVERTISE THEIR SHITS ON BACK ORDER UNTIL AFTER YOU ORDER AND THEY TAKE YOUR MONEY
That is a sick keychain
I thought so too!
Love your car
Glad to see you got it sorted out man! Surprising that it runs that well without a tune for the lager injectors. Any idea on who your going with for the new tune!?
Thanks man! Probably either 22RPD or Kassel. Not sure.
For sure! I have a tune from 22rpd. Highly recommended and my car runs well with it. Thought about Kassel but really liked format on the 22rpd website.
Awesome news brother! What tune you gonna go with?
Oh hell yeah, that's better, So glad it seems sorted!!!! Now, we want content....LOL!
Haha you'll get it! I have a lot of catching up to do
Id suggest retuning to 24lb injectors before switching tunes, i mean its free after all.
Mate your country really need to geht good fuel xD I drive my e36 with 100 oktan, its so perfect
different countries have different fuel ratings
You can get 100 here
11:56
I thought the 1998 and 1999 models ran on regular?
That keychain is dope...wish they allowed for custom colors.
Message them on Instagram about it 👍
45 Dollar??? We in Germany have to pay over 100€ for a full tank
hi how the gas mileage when changed out the injector any different?
Should not affect your cruising gas mileage much. Your car at idle and partial throttle will still try to maintain a 14.7 afr.
So what Tuner are you going with?
Were did you buy the injectors
How did you color match your oil presssure, temp, ect gauges?
They're from VDO. They actually have supplied BMW with OEM parts so that is why they match.
who are you going to get a new tune from?
Got it from 22rpd
Dude...I think that "pin" you ripped out is a spring. I could be wrong since it has been a while since I replaced my injectors. Pretty sure you literally just press on it with your finger to release the connector. Other than that, good job on solving your car's issues! I would give ECS Tuning a nasty phone call if my new injectors came in an unpadded envelope.
Funny thing is I was thinking "why couldn't they have just made these like the rest of the connectors that you just press to release?!" They are different and unfortunately need to be removed... Thanks for watching!
Treats On The Streets oh, ok. Glad to see your car back on the streets. I will hopefully be using your subframe related videos in the near future as a guide.
Its a Christmas miracle! Merry Christmas! Haha
heheh, I knew it was those injector O-Rings man. That was 100% a faulty injector problem, glad it was all sorted out & remember to lube the damn o-rings. You can check out TRM Tuning & see if they have any tuning solutions for your build, little bit pricey but they're one of the best for tuning an s52 or... you can swap in an s54?! juuuust sayin.. you're about at the power plateau for that s52.
Power plateaus can be raised with turbos :)
@@TreatsOnTheStreets aaah true I'm not at all stopping you if you go that route. Treats on the Streets: Operation Spoolbus.
@@kirchhoff1814 😂😂
Treats On The Streets seems like most likely injector issue not a tune issue
@@Gjon777 entirely a possibility. Car still has some issues. Idles weird, will occasionally bog. It improved with injectors for sure though.
For god’s sake, LUBE the o rings with dielectric grease man!!!!
I have a built E36 M3 that had a RK tunes software and it ran like crap! I know and found what the issue was. Sounds like RK is still spewing the same bullshit to everyone who buys his tune with no solution to fix!
So you want yo swap ur injections. Got it.
But what was ur problem?
I am a new guy and had no clue why swapping them.
Urotuning.com FTW Bruhhhh ;)
What tune are you going to put on next?
@@TreatsOnTheStreets 22RPD for sure, you won't regret it.
@@TreatsOnTheStreets I enjoy my Jim Conforti tune on my e36 M3. He's definatly the expert in the subject.
@@NativesMC fuckin legend
Was wondering were you been man, good deal!
Hi E36 or E46?
e36 plus a longboard?! ;-)
In S A I fill my e36 with R944.37 full tank
Bullshit!!! Gas here in Cali is almost $5 a fuckin gallon for Chevron 91. 😑😑
Cool bro
must be ob1 lol
I can assure you that your package was hucked around. I see it all the time at the workplace... unfortunately.
In S A I fill my e36 with R944.37 full tank