That would have been such a waste of his amazing defensive talent. Most of his value assessing stats were high because of his defense more than his offense.
@@PBMdanya - sort of. When he first started, teams rarely shifted the infield. Also, they were just starting to use SABR to make some decisions, whereas now it’s like a computer just tells people where to stand, what to swing at in a given count. It dictates too much of the game imo. I can’t wait to see the increases in offensive production that will come next year with the shift banned and the pitching clock!
I almost forget about Steve Avery, David Wright, Johan Santana, Kerry Wood, Brandon Webb, Eric Davis, Mattingly, J.R Richards, and Conigliaro as well, I could put an all time favorite Dale Murphey on here too.
it’s really sad honestly. tulo was one of my fav players and it’s such a shame that he was always getting injured. we all know he could’ve been one of the best shortstops in the mlb if he stayed healthy
One of my favorite players to watch growing up even though my Sox had to end Rocktober in 2007. Him and CarGo made the Rockies super fun to watch in the early 2010s. Barring injuries he could’ve gone down as a possible top 5 short stop of all time
I had the opportunity to watch Tulo play in Seattle in 2013. The way he moved, his athleticism and his hitting makes me believe he would have been an all-timer if he would have stayed healthy.
Glad you made this video. He really could’ve been considered the best SS of all time. I remember being so heartbroken when he was traded, and that was a terrible moment to be a Rockies fan (the return was also garbage for how amazing of a player he was). I’ve always wondered what could’ve been. I also wish he would’ve gotten one more year in Colorado, but I understand the reasoning for him never wanting to go back. Same for Arenado and Story. It hurts seeing us grow such amazing talent, only for them to want more because it’s not something our team culture doesn’t provide
@@MackPackedBaseball I know. And some how people think Jeter is better. Jeter is nowhere close to Tulowitski. Reyes, Ripken Jr, Rollins and Smith are all much better shortstops than Jeter
@@ericschuster2231 but Jeter lasted longer than most of them and have the accolades, I agree with you but only explaining why casuals would place Jeter above
I'm a Yankees fan and when they signed Tulo, I knew what we were getting but I hoped and prayed he'd turn back the clock. Just wasn't meant to be. Injuries aside, he was everything you could've wanted in a shortstop and more.
The fact that Tulo finished in 2nd for gold glove even though his numbers were better across the board just PROVES it’s all about popularity and not about performance.
As a Jays fan, I was so happy when we brought him in. I didn't care about the injuries, I thought we were going to win the World Series that year after bringing in Josh Donaldson and Russell Martin earlier in the season along with Devon Travis having an MVP caliber start to his career. Just a shame Tulo's muscles were made of cheese strings. I wonder how much of a difference it would've made if Tulo was like 6' instead of 6'3"
Sports player are werid man some are complete ironman never missing a game then you got guys injured for the slightest thing and when they come back, they get injured again lol
One thing to add to his legacy is he really cemented the current trend of having, big strong short stops who not only flash the leather, but also are extreme power hitters. I know it had happened before, we saw some during the steroid era (which I don’t count), and Cal Ripken really was the first to play that role without juicing. However even when Tulo was still coming up, a lot of teams were playing the little speedy guys with good gloves and slap hitters. That’s completely changed, now we see Machado, Corey Seager, Carlos Correa, Story, etc.
He’s gonna be a hell of a coach! He had Texas entire line up raking while he was there as a volunteer assistant coach! He’s big time baseball smart and I hope he coaches at the college level he really connected with those young players but he has to get a degree to get paid to coach in college so I have a feeling he’ll be coaching pro ball soon!
I swear, this video just popped into my feeds a day or so after thinking about MLB players who were so good, but sadly couldn't stay healthy for long! Tulo was awesome to watch, and I wish that his career could have gone longer. Side note: if I were a player for the Rockies, and I was a defensive wizard, I think I'd look at the franchises recent track record of lock player down long term then trade him away. I'm just glad I got Arenado on my Cards now!
I initially misread your number of subscribers, I thought it was 381,000 not just 381, keep up the content man, you’ve definitely got “it”, this was a great video
As a Yankee fan I was so excited when he singed with the team but then... the injuries. You forgot to mention Derek Jeter was his idol hence the number 2 on his back and added a one in front of it when he played in NY.
I remember being shocked at getting a push notification that the Blue Jays released Tulo. Releasing him really didn't make any sense unless majority of MLB teams truly believed he was never going to play at a major league level again. I'm sure they shopped him around before releasing him... why eat 100% unless you have to? Maybe you could even get a fringe prospect back.
The fact that he wasn't Rookie of the Year in 2007 just shows the east coast bias that exists. No way was Rollins even CLOSE to anything Tulo had done that year
He’s in MY top 5 even with the injuries. I’m sure he’d historically and commonly be top 5 if he’d stayed healthy. I’m glad he got his homer as a yankee though. I know how much that meant to him.
What went wrong? I didn't watch the video but I could answer this question. He had some great years in Colorado but when he got to Toronto and later the Yankees, he just became too injury prone. Injuries that kept him out for long periods of time. And those injuries affected his game.
It wasn’t just that Tulowitzki had better fielding numbers than Rollins in 2007… Troy Tulowitzki had the highest baseball reference dWAR in the MLB among all positions that year by a full win He had the highest fangraphs defensive component among all rookies (6th across all players), while Ryan Braun had the lowest among all rookies He tied for the highest fangraphs DRS at 31 while Rollins was tied for 48th with 5 Troy’s snub in 2007 was actually part of a six year streak of the highest dWAR player in the MLB not receiving a gold glove, cementing it’s title as the most erroneously chosen award in sports. It wasn’t insignificant that Tulowitzki replaced Clint Barmes either; Barmes had been 2nd among all positions in that stat in 2006.
Not for nothing but all time greatness requires sustained excellence. MLB history is littered with players, like Tulo, who were great for a few years but for whatever reason couldn't sustain their performance. Look at Nomar.
It’s pretty disrespectful to call a dude who played at the highest level for 13 years “a tragic career”….terrible luck with injuries that clearly slowed him down but he still managed to stay in the big leagues
im not accusing him at all of using PEDs but the number of injuries he had is kinda crazy, everyone gets hurt but not to the rate and extent he was, its common when guys use that they may become more athletic but they also become more prone to injuries. Its a shame his career had an early ending.
If he was able to stay healthy I think we would be able to rank Tulo as the greatest shortstop of all time. Tulo, and Mark Prior..... What could have been... SMDH
Really?!? The flat of Pillar's chest hitting the flat of Tulo's back. The "impact" moved him about 3 inches. His head didn't snap back, his hat and glasses never moved. If he had had a raw egg strapped to his back it would barely have broken. How does that collision break bones? Considering the hits people take in football, rugby, hockey, etc. that are 100x harder and from more compromising angles, this is just bizarre to me. But that's baseball, I guess....
I think that's the thing with "could have beens"...people focus on the few seasons and go "he would have hit ALL the baseballs ALL the time and did ALL the stuff, if only...".but at the end of the day..you just have to look at the whole career, nothing else really matters.
he woulda made a hell of a dh for the modern era of baseball if he coulda stayed healthy after finishing out defensive prime.
That would have been such a waste of his amazing defensive talent. Most of his value assessing stats were high because of his defense more than his offense.
One of the only guys throwing mid 90s normally across the diamond at his time. Definitely would be a waste
Was baseball that much different from his playing days? Besides the DH rule that was adopted this season for the NL....
@@PBMdanya - sort of. When he first started, teams rarely shifted the infield. Also, they were just starting to use SABR to make some decisions, whereas now it’s like a computer just tells people where to stand, what to swing at in a given count. It dictates too much of the game imo. I can’t wait to see the increases in offensive production that will come next year with the shift banned and the pitching clock!
Don't look at him. He'll pull a hamstring
The problem was injuries, countless injuries. The most games he ever played in a season was in his rookie year. His body betrayed him.
Tulo, and Grady Sizemore is linked in my mind for what could have been
Big time! Will definitely do a Grady Sizemore video in the future 🙌🏾
@@MackPackedBaseball subbed!! looking forward to a Grady Sizemore video
I remember the hype around grady, dude really was nasty tho
Mark prior, jacoby ellsbury, carl crawford, theres more
I almost forget about Steve Avery, David Wright, Johan Santana, Kerry Wood, Brandon Webb, Eric Davis, Mattingly, J.R Richards, and Conigliaro as well, I could put an all time favorite Dale Murphey on here too.
it’s really sad honestly. tulo was one of my fav players and it’s such a shame that he was always getting injured. we all know he could’ve been one of the best shortstops in the mlb if he stayed healthy
Tulo was my fav back in day smh
One of my favorite players to watch growing up even though my Sox had to end Rocktober in 2007. Him and CarGo made the Rockies super fun to watch in the early 2010s. Barring injuries he could’ve gone down as a possible top 5 short stop of all time
Any Rockies fan remembers the booming sound:
Clap...Clap...Clap-Calp-Calp...Clap-Clap-Clap-Calp..TU LO!!!
Honestly always liked him dude was a stud but just to fragile. Glad someone finally brought it to light how good he was
I always forget just how good he was.
I had the opportunity to watch Tulo play in Seattle in 2013. The way he moved, his athleticism and his hitting makes me believe he would have been an all-timer if he would have stayed healthy.
I remember being little and loving troy but ever since I wondered where he went, little did I know he retired from playing pro ball.
Glad you made this video. He really could’ve been considered the best SS of all time. I remember being so heartbroken when he was traded, and that was a terrible moment to be a Rockies fan (the return was also garbage for how amazing of a player he was). I’ve always wondered what could’ve been. I also wish he would’ve gotten one more year in Colorado, but I understand the reasoning for him never wanting to go back. Same for Arenado and Story. It hurts seeing us grow such amazing talent, only for them to want more because it’s not something our team culture doesn’t provide
He was always me favourite player. Miss him!
He was awesome! I also think Khalil Green was an awesome underrated shortstop as well.
Wow! Khalil green is a name I haven’t heard in a LONG time. Thank you for that!
I absolutely loved Khalil Greene, he was a beast. Too bad he just couldn't get out of his own head.
Awesome video! Hope to see more full length vids. Keep it up!
Tulo passed the Torch to Nolan, he crawled for Nolan to run
Never seen a better shortstop in my life! DRS 99! That’s insane!
Insanity. So talented and his career cut completely short
@@MackPackedBaseball I know. And some how people think Jeter is better. Jeter is nowhere close to Tulowitski. Reyes, Ripken Jr, Rollins and Smith are all much better shortstops than Jeter
@@ericschuster2231 but Jeter lasted longer than most of them and have the accolades, I agree with you but only explaining why casuals would place Jeter above
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Jeter was a better all-around player than any and all of them
@@jimwerther I disagree. Offensively maybe. All around definitely not
This channel is going to take off with content like that ☺️
Great video, I loved watching Tulo as a Dodger fan.
Thank you! Same, growing up and being able to see him, Helton and others was awesome
This video is great, its informative, intriguing, and great editing
I always enjoyed watching him play. Played the game hard. Sometimes that can be a curse.
I'm a Yankees fan and when they signed Tulo, I knew what we were getting but I hoped and prayed he'd turn back the clock. Just wasn't meant to be. Injuries aside, he was everything you could've wanted in a shortstop and more.
The fact that Tulo finished in 2nd for gold glove even though his numbers were better across the board just PROVES it’s all about popularity and not about performance.
rockies players always get dinged..but the only time that didn't really matter was with tulos defense so I'd have to agree with u
dude, I am from Taiwan, I like this video, bring more on
As a Jays fan, I was so happy when we brought him in. I didn't care about the injuries, I thought we were going to win the World Series that year after bringing in Josh Donaldson and Russell Martin earlier in the season along with Devon Travis having an MVP caliber start to his career. Just a shame Tulo's muscles were made of cheese strings.
I wonder how much of a difference it would've made if Tulo was like 6' instead of 6'3"
Or maybe a different position
Devon Travis and the START to his career?? What kind of career did he end up having?
Sports player are werid man some are complete ironman never missing a game then you got guys injured for the slightest thing and when they come back, they get injured again lol
Tulo was one of the BEST HANDS DOWN
He was great for us, but glad we got out from under him! The only time rockies owners EVER did something right.
And fortunately had those great years of Trevor Story right after getting rid of him!
One thing to add to his legacy is he really cemented the current trend of having, big strong short stops who not only flash the leather, but also are extreme power hitters. I know it had happened before, we saw some during the steroid era (which I don’t count), and Cal Ripken really was the first to play that role without juicing. However even when Tulo was still coming up, a lot of teams were playing the little speedy guys with good gloves and slap hitters. That’s completely changed, now we see Machado, Corey Seager, Carlos Correa, Story, etc.
I remember when I was 9 years old and saw a prime Tulo hit an absolute rocket dead center off the back wall where the fountains are. he was special
He’s gonna be a hell of a coach! He had Texas entire line up raking while he was there as a volunteer assistant coach! He’s big time baseball smart and I hope he coaches at the college level he really connected with those young players but he has to get a degree to get paid to coach in college so I have a feeling he’ll be coaching pro ball soon!
I swear, this video just popped into my feeds a day or so after thinking about MLB players who were so good, but sadly couldn't stay healthy for long!
Tulo was awesome to watch, and I wish that his career could have gone longer.
Side note: if I were a player for the Rockies, and I was a defensive wizard, I think I'd look at the franchises recent track record of lock player down long term then trade him away. I'm just glad I got Arenado on my Cards now!
Arenado, Tulo, DJ LeMaiheu, Todd Helton.
How insane was that infield?
@@smfny Helton belongs in Cooperstown.
@@andrewhoffman1087
Nah. Colorado hitter.
As a dodger fan, Tulowitzki was one of the best players i have ever seen.
I assumed you had a lot more than 425 subscribers after watching your video, you've got a good voice for baseball videos, keep it up man!
Thank you! I appreciate the comment!
Tulos my dude injury prone or not. He was a blast to watch
Great video and commentary
This is a great video man keep it up your gonna be big!
I appreciate it 🙌🏾
Natural! Audio sounds good, keep up the hard work! ⚾️
Thank you TR4R🙌🏾 appreciate the encouraging words from such a great creator ✊🏾
He used to be my favorite player
Well done brother!…I look forward to more videos 👍
Thank you! More to come🙌🏾
Probably the best
The man took some punishment, holy cow
Good content! Keep it up
great video bro keep it up🔥🔥
Great video. Loved watching Tulo even as a giants fan.
Likewise! Being a Dodger fan and growing up watching him a lot
I initially misread your number of subscribers, I thought it was 381,000 not just 381, keep up the content man, you’ve definitely got “it”, this was a great video
I appreciate you! Thank you, hopefully one day we hit that number!
Probably could’ve been top 3 all time short stop without the injuries or the greatest shortstop
Dude after i finished the video i expected you to have a couple thousand subs but that wasn’t the case and i was very surprised! keep it up ❤
I appreciate you! Thank you so much. We’re just getting started, hope to grow with you💙
@@MackPackedBaseball Of course man, I can always appreciate the hustle of a small youtuber like yourself ❤
Amazing video cant believe you don’t have 1000 subs yet. You got my subscription
Thank you Brady! Just getting started, I appreciate the kind words🙌🏾
Tulo was a beast 🔥
JP Ricciardi passed on drafting Troy Tulowitzki because of Russ Adams. All Blue Jay fans need to know this.
I never understood why people thought highly of Ricciardi
Troy would’ve been the 🐐
As a Yankee fan I was so excited when he singed with the team but then... the injuries. You forgot to mention Derek Jeter was his idol hence the number 2 on his back and added a one in front of it when he played in NY.
As an Angels fan, he was one of my favorite players! I wish I had his jersey
i was so happy when he came to the jays
I remember being shocked at getting a push notification that the Blue Jays released Tulo. Releasing him really didn't make any sense unless majority of MLB teams truly believed he was never going to play at a major league level again. I'm sure they shopped him around before releasing him... why eat 100% unless you have to? Maybe you could even get a fringe prospect back.
Great vid, subbed !
Thank you!
FYI it used to be called the "DL" back then.
Great video! Thanks for showing how Holliday never touched the plate. :)
Thank you! And 😂
W video keep up good work
Him and Khalil Greene are 2 of the biggest 'what could have been' guys at that position.
He probably would have won the 2014 MVP if he didn't injure his hip. No other hitter that year was even close his numbers.
Numbers don’t lie he’s the best shortstop for sure to me
The fact that he wasn't Rookie of the Year in 2007 just shows the east coast bias that exists. No way was Rollins even CLOSE to anything Tulo had done that year
This is pure spin. Tulo had a great career in spite of injuries.
Tulo
Nomar Garciaparra was the most talented shortstop that ever lived. Injuries took that from us
The man made of glass.
At least a top 3 shortstop without injurys
Such a shame. I was a huge Jeter fan growing up and was naturally drawn to another great #2 playing shortstop. What could've been
He had a lot of injuries he was very good
He’s in MY top 5 even with the injuries. I’m sure he’d historically and commonly be top 5 if he’d stayed healthy.
I’m glad he got his homer as a yankee though. I know how much that meant to him.
What went wrong?
I didn't watch the video but I could answer this question.
He had some great years in Colorado but when he got to Toronto and later the Yankees, he just became too injury prone. Injuries that kept him out for long periods of time.
And those injuries affected his game.
Tulo....softer than the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man....
Blue Jays legend
GOAT SS!!
Shouldn't have been snubbed because Ryan Braun was juicing. Absolute BS
Braun made a living stealing awards
It wasn’t just that Tulowitzki had better fielding numbers than Rollins in 2007…
Troy Tulowitzki had the highest baseball reference dWAR in the MLB among all positions that year by a full win
He had the highest fangraphs defensive component among all rookies (6th across all players), while Ryan Braun had the lowest among all rookies
He tied for the highest fangraphs DRS at 31 while Rollins was tied for 48th with 5
Troy’s snub in 2007 was actually part of a six year streak of the highest dWAR player in the MLB not receiving a gold glove, cementing it’s title as the most erroneously chosen award in sports.
It wasn’t insignificant that Tulowitzki replaced Clint Barmes either; Barmes had been 2nd among all positions in that stat in 2006.
Not for nothing but all time greatness requires sustained excellence. MLB history is littered with players, like Tulo, who were great for a few years but for whatever reason couldn't sustain their performance. Look at Nomar.
Sub 150, can’t wait to see you at 150,000 then 1,500,000
Thank you so much! I appreciate you! Let’s get it🙌🏾
Playing in CO is an MLB death sentence
Was fairly disappointed about his run with the Jays, still a big fan though of what he did over there in Colorado
It’s pretty disrespectful to call a dude who played at the highest level for 13 years “a tragic career”….terrible luck with injuries that clearly slowed him down but he still managed to stay in the big leagues
He was an A’s fan and a Giants-hater. He had no chance.
yea i loved Tulo, but when u used Tulo and “one of the greatest shortstops OF ALL TIME” i had to head out. LOL 😂
Ranks 9th All time WRC+ and best player at his position offensively and defensively when healthy
@@MackPackedBaseball definitely not better than AROD or a healthy nomar offensively
Dude was paper ....but could play
reminds me of trae turner
He played on the Astros in 2019 but no one remembers him playing on the Astros.
Because he never did
Weird title considering he still had a pretty damn good career.
im not accusing him at all of using PEDs but the number of injuries he had is kinda crazy, everyone gets hurt but not to the rate and extent he was, its common when guys use that they may become more athletic but they also become more prone to injuries. Its a shame his career had an early ending.
It's crazy to me that my dad's best friends with his cousin
If he was able to stay healthy I think we would be able to rank Tulo as the greatest shortstop of all time. Tulo, and Mark Prior..... What could have been... SMDH
Troy, is the Penny Hardaway of the MLB…
Really?!? The flat of Pillar's chest hitting the flat of Tulo's back. The "impact" moved him about 3 inches. His head didn't snap back, his hat and glasses never moved. If he had had a raw egg strapped to his back it would barely have broken. How does that collision break bones? Considering the hits people take in football, rugby, hockey, etc. that are 100x harder and from more compromising angles, this is just bizarre to me. But that's baseball, I guess....
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 TU LO
Fun fact: I’m related to Troy tulowitzki
Dude, you're ready to say he "could have" been the "best shortstop of ALL TIME" based on a few admittedly great seasons. That's grossly premature.
I think that's the thing with "could have beens"...people focus on the few seasons and go "he would have hit ALL the baseballs ALL the time and did ALL the stuff, if only...".but at the end of the day..you just have to look at the whole career, nothing else really matters.
TLDR: Lots of injuries.
Clint Barmes was another one couldn’t stay healthy
Those torn ligaments in the ankle are a problem, I bet he has problems standing on his feet today.
Stopper peds. Its always peds
When you get overpaid millions of dollars to play a game you can at least take care of your own health.