10 Most Tragic Star Trek Characters

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  • @windgraceproject
    @windgraceproject Před rokem +115

    I would have to go with Icheb. Not only was he betrayed by his parents in an attempt to infect the Borg, but he was betrayed by his parents in an attempt to infect the Borg TWICE. Thankfully Voyager was able to rescue him...only for one of the most gruesome on-screen deaths in little more than a cameo used to advance Seven's story.

    • @emptyvoices31
      @emptyvoices31 Před rokem +6

      Yes, I would have said this as well. What happened to him on multiple occasions leading to his death was horrible.

    • @CaribbeanLady77
      @CaribbeanLady77 Před rokem +2

      Yes I was about to mention Icheb as well… He was done dirty on Picard! And his story on Voyager was beyond tragic until that point…

  • @secuda
    @secuda Před rokem +124

    Pike didnt accept his fate to stop the Romulans, he accepted his fate because everytime he changed it Spock paid the price.

    • @--Animal--
      @--Animal-- Před rokem +23

      He accepted his fate for both Spock and the Romulan war. He knew he wasn't suppose to be in command during the conflict with Spock being critically injured, future Pike also stated no matter what the outcome was, someone else would pay the price implying that there would be others beside Spock who would be in danger.

  • @coreyg3658
    @coreyg3658 Před rokem +45

    How Miles O'Brian isn't on this list is beyond me. He spent 20 years in prison just for asking questions

    • @agent_skully
      @agent_skully Před rokem +1

      I think he suffered a lot, too. But I'm guessing he wasn't included because he didn't die?

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 Před rokem

      If you're not careful, you might too...

    • @NMiller_
      @NMiller_ Před rokem +4

      He was my first thought! Before we ever see him he was a frontline soldier fighting the Cardassians. That's a fairly rare perspective in Star Trek/Starfleet. Also, his wife was messed with multiple times, nearly lost a pregnancy, the POW issues, lotta stuff.

    • @Yasuda9000
      @Yasuda9000 Před rokem +4

      Miles O'Brian was in prison for 20 years in his mind, not for real. He was only in this "prison sentence" for an hour or a few hours (I forgot which), but it still messed him up during that time.

    • @JaysonStork
      @JaysonStork Před 11 měsíci +2

      The torture of Miles for so many years definitely needed to be included. His experience is similar to Picard's lost life/wife/children as far as real time/experienced time, but the idea that O'Brian was in anguish for so long places it as number one in my "history of trek trauma"

  • @lovipoekimo176
    @lovipoekimo176 Před rokem +139

    If one thinks about it, Picard has suffered A LOT. He was born with Shalafts syndrome that made him have superhuman hearing which caused him agony, his mom went cray cray and killed herself, he was estranged from his father and brother, he got stabbed in the frickin' heart, lost his best friend Jack, was secretly in love with his BFF's wife, he was assimilated by the Borg and was gifted with Irumodic syndrome, an entire lifetime's worth of memories were uploaded to his brain and all he got from it was flute-playing skills, he lost two daughter figures in Sito Jaxa and Ro Laren, was tortured by the Cardassians, was cloned by Romulans, his only biological family died in a fire, he himself died from Irumodic syndrome and resurrected as a golem, learned he had a son who turned out to be the new Borg collective/locus, and a few more that I may have missed. O'Brien's suffering pales in comparison's to Picard.

    • @caironiancanuck482
      @caironiancanuck482 Před rokem +14

      @Lovi Poekimo: Wow impressive. You know enough to write Picard's bio and more. A true Trekkie!

    • @gerardojg
      @gerardojg Před rokem +3

      Good answer.

    • @madmojo-im6jz
      @madmojo-im6jz Před rokem +2

      And he still managed to be boring and insufferable even with such a good and elaborate backstory and character development

    • @lovipoekimo176
      @lovipoekimo176 Před rokem +13

      I also forget that Picard is made to feel responsible for his actions as Locutus as well as the actions of an alternate version of him that made Tasha go back in time that then resulted in Sela being born. Man's got misery and pain and guilt in spades.

    • @_Omega_Weapon
      @_Omega_Weapon Před rokem +2

      ​@@funfact8660 How did obtain these psychic powers? Do you know the number I'm thinking of?

  • @stephandolby
    @stephandolby Před rokem +70

    So, if we count Enrique Muniz, Icheb, Tora Ziyal, Sito Jaxa, Ro Laren, Matt Decker, Tuvix, Degra, Liam Shaw and perhaps how Elim Garak's life turned out towards the end of DS9, that's an Another 10 Most Tragic Star Trek Characters video.

    • @time391
      @time391 Před rokem +6

      Garek became Ambassador to the Federation and eventually President of Cardassia, he found a nice partner to share his days and likely nights with, so I don't think he belongs on the list. Sure he lost his father, his mother, and his world was ashes at the end of DS9, but I still like to believe the plot of the books played out.

    • @DelphicRachel
      @DelphicRachel Před rokem +4

      I fully expect there to be a sequel - and Degra MUST be on there, lol

  • @DingoDin
    @DingoDin Před rokem +32

    I would add the brilliant K'Ehleyr! She was gone too soon and her death led to a lot of suffering for Worf and Alexander 😢

  • @philmarsh5593
    @philmarsh5593 Před rokem +40

    A missed nugget of information. Timicin's daughter = Michelle Forbes, who later came back as Ro Laren.

    • @dale5495
      @dale5495 Před rokem

      Your good

    • @thebagfather4633
      @thebagfather4633 Před rokem +3

      i thought it was . cheers for the info

    • @Juro-lk7xf
      @Juro-lk7xf Před rokem +2

      So, that's why that face looked so familiar. Thanks!

    • @dustinherk8124
      @dustinherk8124 Před rokem +1

      its fairly common knowledge that actors get recast in different roles within the Star Trek franchise. Vaughn Strong for example played 12 characters, between 28 episodes, over 4 star trek series. in one episode he plays Admiral Forrest and a Suliban in the same episode. or Jeffrey Combs who played more than one ferengi among several other reoccuring characters. Tim Russ is another example.

  • @a.l.e.x8118
    @a.l.e.x8118 Před rokem +22

    Shinzon is also pretty tragic.
    A clone created for only one purpose and then thrown into a mine as a kid and forgotten about.

  • @agent_skully
    @agent_skully Před rokem +23

    Worf was also put through it over the run of TNG and DS9. Murdered parents, raised on Earth by humans, surprise brother, surprise son, family accused of dishonor, discommendation, his mate murdered, totally unacknowledged by his homeworld, paralyzed and wanted to end it, seeing future Alexander die, spouse murdered again. I could go on with specifics.

    • @dakariszulu
      @dakariszulu Před rokem +5

      Even on this list, Worf was denied.

  • @leafandlore
    @leafandlore Před rokem +14

    Dathon the Tamarian captain in Darmok had such a sad ending. If he had lived he could have really helped the Federations relationship with his people.
    Also Ensign Sito from TNG's Lower Decks. Her death and Picard's announcement at the end always get me.

  • @lorraineliggera4229
    @lorraineliggera4229 Před rokem +15

    I would add Sito Jaxa. Given a chance to redeem herself after the “First Duty” incident, and only 7 months into her starfleet career, dies during a covert mission in the “Lower Decks” episode of TNG (not the animated series).

  • @AndrewD8Red
    @AndrewD8Red Před rokem +25

    Still get weepy at Ziyal.

  • @_Omega_Weapon
    @_Omega_Weapon Před rokem +8

    Glad you included Dr. Timicin. Half A Life was a very moving and emotional episode for me, and I hope for other Trekkies.

  • @pookhahare
    @pookhahare Před rokem +32

    Matt Decker. From what Kirk says they were probably friends and very posdibly Decker had been a mentor to Kirk after Captain Garrovic death. As Kirk said he was the best of us. Decker trying to save his crew from a dying ship only to have the doomsday device eat the planet while Decker listens to their cries. Days 12:44 later he is found by Kirk a shattered wreck . In his log entry you hear the commander he had been.

    • @tomshappyland2741
      @tomshappyland2741 Před rokem +1

      Absolutely. Makes a tragic mistake in attacking the planet killer that gets him a wrecked ship. Then compounds that with an even more tragic mistake in beaming his crew down.

    • @DavidCoxDallas
      @DavidCoxDallas Před rokem +1

      was thinking of Will Decker, Riker's original prototype, from The Motion Picture.

  • @KingOfMadCows
    @KingOfMadCows Před rokem +18

    The whole Q Continuum are pretty tragic. Sure, being immortal and having godlike powers sounds fun but it also means that they'll have to watch all mortals age and die. They've probably seen the end of countless civilizations. And once they've been around for a few billion years, they've done just about everything that could be done and have to exist in a state of boredom and tedium for the rest of eternity.

    • @Progger11
      @Progger11 Před rokem +1

      *potential spoilers*
      The Q members do seem to be "mortal" in a sense because we see Q's death at one point... But he's also still alive at the same time because his native existence is outside of our concept of space-time, so he's a non-linear being. So, he dies in Picard's linear experience of him, but he's also still alive... It's wild.
      So, the Q are similar to The Prophets, except they can actually manifest in physical forms and enter linear space-time when they wish. Hence why they can "die" in those forms but also still reappear.

  • @youngishjon2326
    @youngishjon2326 Před rokem +8

    Watching Enterprise atm. I would add Sim to the list (The clone of Trip)

  • @paulweston8408
    @paulweston8408 Před rokem +14

    Once again, everyone forgets Gary Mitchell. He was Kirk's best friend in the second pilot. He was given god-like powers that scared the Captain so much he tried to maroon Gary on a basically empty planet.
    I REALLY hope Strange New Worlds has him make an appearance.

  • @anthonyneal5518
    @anthonyneal5518 Před rokem +17

    Th most tragic is Riker's transporter twin, by far.
    Hard to imagine that left that out.

  • @KingOfDoma
    @KingOfDoma Před rokem +15

    ... Harry Kim feels like he'd rate. It's a more mundane sort of tragic... kept at ensign for no real reason... never found love... died in at least two alternate timelines... friend got demoted and then re-promoted before Janeway ever looked at him... he just never caught a real break.

    • @sinswhisper9588
      @sinswhisper9588 Před rokem +2

      he made Captain in Star Trek Online i think

    • @TheSwedeMoffo
      @TheSwedeMoffo Před rokem +2

      ​@@sinswhisper9588 He was also supposed to be featured as a captain in Picard, but Garrett Wang turned it down.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta Před rokem

      @@funfact8660 What does that have to do with Harry Kim?

  • @DelphicRachel
    @DelphicRachel Před rokem +37

    How is Degra not on this list?
    Say what you want about ENT, Degra's death was a tear-jerker.

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 Před rokem +23

    Tasha yar was truly a tragic character

  • @joerider3769
    @joerider3769 Před rokem +14

    For me, it's Lazarus in tge TOS The Alternative Factor, trapped for all eternity with a madman at his throat to save two universes! Blew my 12 year old mind away, and still gets me now at 58...

    • @Chuck_Hooks
      @Chuck_Hooks Před rokem +1

      Exactly. Well said.

    • @bbartky
      @bbartky Před rokem

      Ditto. I also thought that they would use that episode for the TOS portion of this video.

  • @y_fam_goeglyd
    @y_fam_goeglyd Před rokem +21

    I think Lwaxana Troi (forgive me if I misspelled it, I've taken my night time tablets. Does bugger all for my memory lol) should be on the list. She lost her daughter and husband, she fell in love only to end up accompanying him to be with him as he committed suicide, and had rotten luck with men in general. Initially I found her annoying but as she was given more back story, and by the time she ended up stuck in the lift with Odo on DS9, I really started to feel sorry for her.

    • @weepingscorpion8739
      @weepingscorpion8739 Před rokem +1

      Don't worry, you spelled Lwaxana Troi correctly. And yes, agree.

  • @jpwphoenix1701
    @jpwphoenix1701 Před rokem +10

    I'd actually nominate Garak too. He went through a lot both before and during DS9. After having spent so many years in exile, he's last seen returned to his homeworld but it's left in ruins, most of his people massacred and his supposed mother, Mila, is shot dead by Jem'Hadar. While novels and unofficial plays have had Garak leading the Cardassians and helping rebuild it, it's still a tragic end for him on the TV show.

  • @clairemercer3099
    @clairemercer3099 Před rokem +9

    What about Mr. Spock? An unhappy childhood, being condemned for being half human and suffering dyslexia something no Vulcan had. Losing his sister and not being able to talk about it. Literally losing his mind in They stole Spock's Brain. Having 2 fiancees betray him, dying and coming back. Rushing to save Romulus and being shot into another timeline in which Vulcan is destroyed before dying knowing that his last mission failed disastrously.

  • @BartonAShulman
    @BartonAShulman Před rokem +9

    Can't forget about Dathon, either - the captain from the Darmok episode ...

    • @KatraMoo
      @KatraMoo Před rokem

      I can't believe they left Dathon out. Dathon and Picard at Tenagra!
      I was scanning the comments to see if anyone else had remembered him.
      Honestly, there are enough tragic characters in each series to do at least 10 per series if not more. Charlie X, the Salt Monster, Dr Roger Corby, Vena (Susan Oliver - The Cage/The Managerie, Marta (Yvonne Craig), etc...

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 Před rokem +1

      Shaka, when the wall fell...

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 Před 11 měsíci

      Kira, at Bashi...

  • @NediSafa
    @NediSafa Před rokem +6

    The tragic character from the androgynous planet! Riker says, "But I love you!" and they answer back, "I'm sorry."

  • @bheast86
    @bheast86 Před rokem +9

    Edith Keeler; Doctor Sevrin & Adam; Lt. Galloway (for illogical death); Zarabeth; Winona Ryder Amanda (because she doesn't get to be Jane Wyatt); Apollo; Landru; Roger Corby & co; Balance of Terror Romulan Commander; DS9 Kor, Koloth & Kang

  • @MonCappy
    @MonCappy Před rokem +7

    The episode with Timicin has Majel Barrett's best perfomance as Lwaxana Troi. It's the only episode where she appears as a character instead of a trope. I wish there were more like it.

    • @cassandra.wladyslava
      @cassandra.wladyslava Před rokem +3

      She had some good moments on DS9 too.

    • @jimhills1920
      @jimhills1920 Před 7 měsíci

      That last episode featuring Lwaxana was where we learned she had lost her first child to a tragic accident and has been blaming herself for years. It explains so much about her obsession with constantly involving herself in Deanna’s life.

  • @agent_skully
    @agent_skully Před rokem +17

    Icheb was a tragic character. From his parents' attempt to sacrifice him - twice - to being assimilated, then disconnected and abandoned by the hive. He struggled to adapt to a human lifestyle aboard Voyager almost as much as Seven. His mini-hive of other former-child-drones was broken up and spread across the quadrant. And finally, he was eventually captured, tortured and left for dead, with Seven finally ending his suffering.

    • @madmojo-im6jz
      @madmojo-im6jz Před rokem +1

      These guys completely ignored Voyager all together,heck Tuvik seven of nine seeing her family assimilated while she was six then raised by the Borg,then she had to learn to be human again

    • @agent_skully
      @agent_skully Před rokem +2

      Kira and Odo both lived extremely tragic/traumatic lives despite their outcomes.

    • @ViroVV
      @ViroVV Před rokem

      Icheb was one of those characters it was hard to like. Like a dour and charisma-less Wesley Crusher (as if Crushers personality wasnt grating enough as it was). So while some people may be a bit squeamish, for those of us who Icheb made our skin crawl it was so beyond satisfying watching him wriggle around as he is being scrapped for parts like a rebuilt 78 gremlin.

    • @rachelnesser9223
      @rachelnesser9223 Před rokem

      ​@@agent_skullyHmm, I don't know if I'd say they lived *extremely* tragic lives, but yes to the traumatic for sure. 🤔

  • @susanscott8653
    @susanscott8653 Před rokem +6

    What about the duplicate version of the Voyager crew? They were just trying to vet back to their planet so they could survive and they ended up a cloud of space dust. No one even knew they existed. 😳

  • @markvaughan5047
    @markvaughan5047 Před rokem +12

    Here's a couple more tragic Characters: Lazarus (The Alternative Factor, TOS) who must fight his alternate self while trapped in an electromagnetic corridor for eternity. And Commodore Matt Decker who made a suicide run into the planet killer in The Doomsday Machine.

  • @sureshmukhi2316
    @sureshmukhi2316 Před rokem +4

    How about Lwaxana in Dark Page. Supressing the memory of Kestra's death went a long way in explaining her character. Notice how she mellowed in DS9 and was not so annoying anymore.

  • @davidmitchell005
    @davidmitchell005 Před rokem +4

    How about Arturis? He was the alien in the Season 4 episode 26 “Hope and Fear”(Voyager). He disguised his ship as an experimental Starfleet vessel, equipped with quantum slipstream technology and planned to lure the Voyager crew aboard to deliver them to the Borg. Yes, he was the villain of the week, but he was a tragic figure, having lost his home planet and what seemed like a rich culture. He also had a point. The Voyager crew, in their own rather selfish pursuit of crossing the galaxy at any cost, had helped the Borg defend themselves against Specie 8472, which had offered others a glimmer of hope that the Borg could be defeated. Sure 8472 were probably going to pick fights with everyone else, but Arturis’ point does reflect the larger issue that Voyager had cut a swathe through the quadrant, getting involved all over the place and leaving a bit of a mess in its wake.
    There’s also Miles O’Brien, who goes through hell in every episode he’s the focus of. From The Storyteller to Hard Time to that one where…..well I haven’t time to list them all. The man’s been through a lot.

  • @willroberts3991
    @willroberts3991 Před rokem +7

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd is such a tragic character, with the sanctimonious Starfleet always persecuting him for simply trying to make a living in a cruel galaxy. So tragic

    • @TheSwedeMoffo
      @TheSwedeMoffo Před rokem

      Well, he did try to steal two of their ships thrice aswell as leaked information during the Klingon-Federation War of 2254-2257 from the Starfleet officer that'd become head of Section 31 in 2258.

    • @bemasaberwyn55
      @bemasaberwyn55 Před rokem

      @@TheSwedeMoffo and the whole thing with the space whale

    • @willroberts3991
      @willroberts3991 Před rokem

      @TheSwedeMoffo simply a misunderstanding

  • @thecunninlynguist
    @thecunninlynguist Před rokem +20

    Our boy Tuvix! Murdered to keep the ship/show status quo...and janeway did it without really any remorse

    • @Popcultureguy3000
      @Popcultureguy3000 Před rokem +2

      Oh she regrets it, she voices her regret in her autobiography.

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 Před rokem +12

    David Marcus totally deserved better he really had so much potential

    • @LHGII
      @LHGII Před rokem

      Blame his mom for keeping his dad away

    • @joerider3769
      @joerider3769 Před rokem +2

      Star Trek loves killing off cool characters. Capatian Shaw, anyone...?

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta Před rokem

      @@joerider3769 Shaw was from Capatia!?

  • @C.O._Jones
    @C.O._Jones Před rokem +9

    THANK YOU for not calling it the Genesis “torpedo” like that idiot Sean does. I think he’s really a Klingon. He’s got that Arne Darvin vibe.

    • @ashedarke
      @ashedarke Před rokem

      Tooooopeeeeedooooo

    • @LHGII
      @LHGII Před rokem

      I bet you wouldn't say that to face..

    • @C.O._Jones
      @C.O._Jones Před rokem

      @@ashedarke Iiiiiiiiiidiiiiiiioooooooot

    • @jmpopov
      @jmpopov Před rokem +2

      Someone needs to hold a Tribble up to him.

    • @DawnieAngel11
      @DawnieAngel11 Před rokem

      Love Ellie, but Sean too! Lighten UP...dont be a Downs.

  • @johnsimmons7857
    @johnsimmons7857 Před rokem +4

    One person I would place at number one is Captain Lisa Cusak. A character who "appeared" voice only on the DS9 episode "The sound of her voice".

    • @sureshmukhi2316
      @sureshmukhi2316 Před rokem

      Oh yes!!! That really got me by surprise the first time I watched it.

  • @n3onstars
    @n3onstars Před rokem +2

    Aside from K'Ehleyr, (and a lot of the other comment suggestions), I would say Lon Suder from Voyager... he was starting to be able to work on his impulses, and becoming a totally different person, and then he was gone just like that.

  • @spicybecca4899
    @spicybecca4899 Před rokem +22

    Miles O'Brien litterally exists

    • @ashedarke
      @ashedarke Před rokem +3

      He's had a whole video about himself.

  • @muddybrookrambler
    @muddybrookrambler Před rokem +5

    I would add Lal and Thomas Riker.

  • @davidpumpkinsjr.5108
    @davidpumpkinsjr.5108 Před rokem +4

    Lal : a kind and curious girl who lived too short a life.
    The Doctor's daughter Belle. I know she's just a hologram, but seeing the Doctor and his family's anguish makes it too hard for me to watch that episode.

  • @gestaltdude
    @gestaltdude Před rokem +5

    I watched Half a Life yesterday and, though I knew the story, the performance of Majel as Lwaxana as she tries to convince Timicin to not follow through with the Resoltion, and David Ogden Stiers as Timicin was frankly heartbreaking. I'll admit the most I saw of Stiers was as Charles Winchester III in MASH, which was not the most flattering of characters to be remembered as, and it breaks my heart that most of his later work appears to be voice overs in games I do not play or TV shows I no longer watch since my kids got older. I know he was in Doc Hollywood, had a guest role in an episode of Frasier, and was in the first season of Two Guys, A Girl and a Pizza Place; I just wish there was more where you can see him in play the role. He was definitely one of the most underrated master actors of the last 50 years.

  • @Thewatcher1_
    @Thewatcher1_ Před rokem +5

    Erm Icheb was a tragic character. What happened to him was not cool 😢

  • @kylecarmichael5890
    @kylecarmichael5890 Před rokem +13

    I gotta go with K'Ehleyr being on the list.

  • @williamdownes-hall6300
    @williamdownes-hall6300 Před rokem +5

    Tuvix would be my #1 most tragic character.

  • @FirstDan2000
    @FirstDan2000 Před rokem +5

    All of those red-shirts that died.
    Tragic.

  • @radbaron
    @radbaron Před rokem +6

    At 11:20 , I'm confused. "The Menagerie" was in 1966/67 establishing Pike as captain of the Enterprise before Kirk. The "full" version of "The Cage" was aired in 88 , but had been seen before.

    • @DavidCoxDallas
      @DavidCoxDallas Před rokem +1

      but, @@OldManYellsAtClouds, Pike WAS introduced to viewers in 1966 - The Menagerie, his "1st appearance."

  • @AzraelThanatos
    @AzraelThanatos Před rokem +4

    I still like to think that Kurn's story continues, largely, as it does in STO

  • @Dan19870
    @Dan19870 Před rokem +2

    Trek Culture could easily make another two of these; the murder of Icheb, the disappearance of Sito Jaxa, the execution of Thomas Riker after Cardassia joined the dominion, the deactivation and disassembly of Before (or B4), the death/murder of Trip's clone Sim, the tragic and pointless death of Charles Tucker III, the murder of Tuvix, the murder of Joe Carey, the Assimilation of the Hansen's and the murder of Ahni Jetal. Lets now throw a few controversial ones in for bonus points; the entire crew of the Equinox whom resorted to extreme methods to get themselves home and the life long suffering of Shinzon of Remus.

  • @kathycultice5272
    @kathycultice5272 Před rokem +1

    I love Captain Pike, but that Rock of Gibraltar hair just cracks me up!

  • @travisbrewer5391
    @travisbrewer5391 Před rokem +3

    Charles (Trip) Tucker III, losing his child to a senseless and needless death in a nativist revolt on Vulcan. Leonard (Bones) McCoy and euthanizing his father weeks before a cure for a painfully debilitating disease was found.

    • @susanscott8653
      @susanscott8653 Před rokem

      🤨 I thought Terra Prime were based on Earth. Need to rewatch.
      Can I suggest T'pol? She lost her and Trip's daughter Elizabeth (yes, she was a clone but still...🙄) and then she lost Trip (don't get me started on that 😫).

  • @gerardojg
    @gerardojg Před rokem +5

    I disagree with your placement of Aamin Marritza. I had to re watch the episode to be certain. That DS9 episode was so memorable. I actually remember the evening it premiered. It's due to Nana Visitor and Harris Yulin. I'm guessing why the name of episode is "Duet". 1st time watching it, I was enthralled by the performances of these actors. The twist hit me hard. A person that wants to take on everyone else's sins for redemption. It's a different kind of courage but the sorrow he expressed at his cowardice for not taking stand. I shared it. It was important for Kira, too. Not to allow horrors of the past to haunt her present. It should've been number 2. Just saying.

    • @NediSafa
      @NediSafa Před rokem +2

      I agree. Some of the best acting on Trek.

    • @DarthSideous63
      @DarthSideous63 Před rokem +1

      Duets was one of the most underrated episodes of Trek. Nana's Kira represented a Holocaust survivor and Harris Yulin Marritza represented a German forced to work in a Concentration Camp and saw the horrors of brutalities and could do nothing.

    • @Juro-lk7xf
      @Juro-lk7xf Před rokem +1

      Duet. One of the best Star Trek episodes ever.

  • @TheKnightsShield
    @TheKnightsShield Před rokem +4

    I would say the sheer number of red shirts that served, and subsequently died, while onboard the Enterprise under Kirk during his first 5 year mission in TOS should have been a consideration.

  • @leafandlore
    @leafandlore Před rokem +1

    Oh also the Boraalan chronicler Vorin from TNG's Homeward. He had such potential.

  • @BoomStickization
    @BoomStickization Před rokem +3

    Nice list. Though, most were one-off guest-sport.
    The only reason to keep Miles O'Brien off this list is that you have a multi-episode list of ways he was made to suffer in while serving on DS9.

  • @weepingscorpion8739
    @weepingscorpion8739 Před rokem +1

    It's been a while since I saw the episode but I think Admiral Satie from the episode "The Drumhead" would apply here. Followed in her father's foot steps to become a great lawyer (or something within the realm of law) but ended up becoming a fanatical witch huntress. Her breaking down in the episode is wow... such a great performance by the late great Jean Simmons.

  • @davidbardsley9350
    @davidbardsley9350 Před rokem +7

    Justice for the O’Brians

    • @ashedarke
      @ashedarke Před rokem +2

      They've already done a video just on O'Brien.

  • @jeremywilliams2898
    @jeremywilliams2898 Před rokem +2

    What about Lal, Data's daughter who only lived for one episode. She was actually better than Data in a number of ways - could feel emotions, perform even more calculations per second and could use contractions. She deserved so much better.

  • @Josh-ut4wv
    @Josh-ut4wv Před rokem +2

    You could even do Worf as TNG and DS9 episodes about him he is always struggling of being a Klingon in the Federation and in Starfleet

  • @seanstevenson7533
    @seanstevenson7533 Před rokem

    There were so many! Must have been tough to research this....well done Ellie!

  • @scottgetz75
    @scottgetz75 Před rokem +2

    Surprised that there is not a mention of Data, especially in light of Picard Season 1 and 3, as well as Nemsis, and First Contact.

  • @benjaminsmith9131
    @benjaminsmith9131 Před rokem +2

    Before watching this, I was thinking "Miles O'Brien!

  • @socksumi
    @socksumi Před rokem +4

    What about Vena?... the horribly disfigured "lump of flesh" after a crash who was then rebuilt and held in captivity for many years by the Telosians, experimented on, continuously punished to comply and kept as breeding stock.

  • @MadSpectre47
    @MadSpectre47 Před rokem +5

    Matt Decker

  • @Juro-lk7xf
    @Juro-lk7xf Před rokem +2

    What about Peter Preston? He was a young cadet who was killed by cooling gas in the engine room, staying at his post to save the crew of the Enterprise. I think he was only fourteen years old.

  • @carlperman5123
    @carlperman5123 Před rokem +3

    Sito Jaxa from TNG

  • @eugenioarpayoglou
    @eugenioarpayoglou Před rokem +5

    Tora Ziyal
    Lal
    Jadzia Dax

  • @markdoyle4935
    @markdoyle4935 Před rokem +4

    Tuvix?

  • @seanokeefe-editortrekkiefa9702

    I would have added JT Kirk. The list of loves he lost in the line of duty is heartbreaking, including his son and his ship. He saw more than his fair share of death as well. Finally, he is swept away by the Nexus to die with only a relative stranger, Picard, present.

  • @killingragethrowback
    @killingragethrowback Před rokem +2

    Worf himself lost a lot. But he always kept his self respect. He lost his biological parents, his brothers, his wives, plenty of friends...
    Kirk may have had his triumphs but he and Picard lost out on family.

  • @mrtrek2117
    @mrtrek2117 Před rokem +3

    I can think of lots more tragic characters in Star Trek, all the red shirts in TOS!

  • @cedricstraub8523
    @cedricstraub8523 Před rokem +2

    Tuvix, suffered the most for his short appearance

  • @SweetRevenge8844
    @SweetRevenge8844 Před rokem

    By far, the most tragic character for me and still resonates today was Sito Jaxa. So much so that a particular song that I discovered at the same time I watched that episode still reminds me of that character. Her story is in S5: Ep17 "Lower Decks" on The Next Generation and remains my favorite episode of all Star Trek installments. The song that reminds me of her is "The Post" by Dinosaur Jr.

  • @derejeambatchew608
    @derejeambatchew608 Před rokem +1

    I second Tora Ziyal and put forth Garth of Izar. His situation is a tragedy as he fell from such a height as opposed to never having a chance in the first place or missing out on his potential. He did everything 'right' and was a shadow of himself in the end.

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc Před rokem +3

    Marla McGyvers was killed by a Ceti Eel according to Khan.
    Alternate Tasha Yar tried to escape from her captivity with Sela, but Sela betrayed her own mother and Tasha was executed.
    I guess Miles O’Brien gets a list of his own.

  • @ViroVV
    @ViroVV Před rokem +4

    Tuvix is disappointed by your lack of acknowledgement.
    But I will throw a curve ball. Q-uinn. So bored to tears he literally wanted to die only to have his own people turn on him and force him into a solitary confinement prison for 300 years which if he was bored and wanted to die before being imprisoned could you imagine 300 years in the equivalent of a tiny bedroom with no company, no contact with the outside universe. Forgotten, abandoned and left to live forever by his own kind.
    Ultimately the most tragic part is to have all the power of the Q's omnipotence only to grow tired of seeing the most bizarre and profane things existence has to offer.
    It reminds me of Seven's toast for Mirelle Paris. May she meet all her goals save for one so she would always have something to strive for. Q-uinn had so wrung out all the mystery of existence there was nothing left to strive for but death and that is a bleak story.

  • @glittermama
    @glittermama Před rokem +2

    You of course omitted the MOST tragic Star Trek character--the combination of Tuvok and Neelix -- Tuvix. He was put to death by Captain Janeway so that Tuvok and Neelix could return. He was innocent of any crime except that of existing. And update--Ro Laren who died for Starfleet and the crew of the Titan. Who researches this stuff???

  • @Herowebcomics
    @Herowebcomics Před rokem +1

    Man!
    Some of these people had it ROUGH!
    But that helped make the shows better!

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 Před rokem +1

    That's a good list, man.

  • @Kllgg
    @Kllgg Před rokem +2

    Damar is even more tragic if you account for what happened after the chili dogs and root beer.

  • @tardiscommand1812
    @tardiscommand1812 Před rokem +2

    At 1:12 that dude was lucky he was stopped from hitting Uhura. She would have beat the hell out of him while listening to his heartbeat slowly fade from 2 meters away.

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164

    Some of these Star Trek characters really got burned by their misfortunes, literally. 😮

  • @mrtrek2117
    @mrtrek2117 Před rokem +1

    Anson Mount pulls off the part of Pike with class and character in the same way Shatner did with Kirk.

  • @Karthos1000
    @Karthos1000 Před rokem +1

    I'd like to see a "Top 10 Most Hypocritical Starfleet/Federation Actions". For example, the Federation and Star Fleet are (supposedly) all about respecting the religious and cultural practices of its members. But Riker forces Ensign Ro to remove her earring because it's "against the uniform code", and multiple Starfleet Captains refuse to allow Klingon ritual suicide. Sisko even tells Worf that if Worf honors his brother's request for an honorable death, he will consider it murder. There's more than just this (could probably do a top 10 list using just the Maquis). Section 31, the "Badmirals", any Enterprise crew condemning anyone else for ignoring the Prime Directive, etc.

  • @gavcarl
    @gavcarl Před rokem +6

    No O'Brien?

    • @markdoyle4935
      @markdoyle4935 Před rokem +1

      You could make a list out make O’Brien suffer episodes.

    • @ashedarke
      @ashedarke Před rokem +1

      There already is a video just about him suffering.

  • @toonezon4836
    @toonezon4836 Před rokem +1

    How could you forget the most tormented character in all of Star Trek, obrien, he's suffering an unending torment every week

  • @dale5495
    @dale5495 Před rokem +1

    I remember the one with Charles Emerson Winchester the third if remember right he was on ET or something saying as a big TOS FAN

  • @kevindondrea144
    @kevindondrea144 Před rokem +3

    I have the solution to Captain Pike's fait. In that episode they claimed because he survived, which no longer put Captain Kirk as the Enterprise captain. So the outcome in the Episode Captain Kirk successfully defeated the Romulans wouldn't have happened.
    Solution: Send the letter as he intended. Then on the day of the accident, he retires from Star Fleet and requests James T Kirk take over the ship.
    COMTRAYA! Everything is better. 😁😁

    • @y_fam_goeglyd
      @y_fam_goeglyd Před rokem +1

      Stargate fan I see? Or just Harlan? Comtraya! ;)

  • @EGGmockradio
    @EGGmockradio Před rokem

    This may have been mentioned but Icheb had a pretty tragic story. Even though he and the other “borg children” were successfully saved by Seven and the crew of Voyager, his later revealed death in Picard’s first season was absolutely brutal and heart wrenching.

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 Před rokem

    Thanks. 🖖🏻🖖🏻

  • @DocWolph
    @DocWolph Před rokem +1

    Some people were just trapped in their fate. Yar and Pike had more than one chance to get out and live
    Others are denied mercy, Merritza, and Kira finally found a Cardassian she could forgive. On the up side it made it possible for her to forgive others and even call some of them friends.

  • @leticiagarcia9025
    @leticiagarcia9025 Před rokem +1

    The lives of Ziyal and ensign Zito had tragic lives.

  • @skipper4126
    @skipper4126 Před rokem +1

    Damar. They never did find his secret mountain hideaway. Long may his legend live in the hearts and minds of all free Cardassians.

  • @adamethridge7824
    @adamethridge7824 Před rokem

    Dr timicin, is the dude that played Winchester on mash star tech has the best cameos

  • @SolarDNA
    @SolarDNA Před rokem

    I remember when we first met Ro Laren on TNG, I was like "Hey that's Dr. Timicin's daughter" lol

  • @koreykrabbenhoft1273
    @koreykrabbenhoft1273 Před rokem +2

    What about the officer in DD9 who was stuck in a wheel chair and Dr Bashir helped her out with the anti gravity in her room

    • @susanscott8653
      @susanscott8653 Před rokem

      ​@@OldManYellsAtClouds so was Pike. That beep chair is a failure of technology really. Star Fleet should be able to do better.

  • @zooropa04
    @zooropa04 Před rokem +1

    Marritza is by far the most compelling to me. I think "Duet" is the best episode of any Star Trek series. So prescient, in the past and present (sadly).

    • @ashedarke
      @ashedarke Před rokem

      So good, an episode doesn't need to fancy to be good. Small cast but solid story told well.

  • @withershin
    @withershin Před rokem

    04:02 - we didn't miss this dude back in the day. 9 most tragic...