Why It's Impossible For Studio Ghibli To Continue
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Studio Ghibli is by far one of the most successful animation studios outside the US. With stories that transcend time, language barriers, countries, and cultures, Studio Ghibli at one time made nothing but timeless classics. Though when Hayao Miyazaki first stepped away, Studio Ghibli started to see it's first downturn in it's history. It wasn't until Hayao Miyazaki came back to get the studio back on track and direct The Boy and the Heron that things started running like the old days. But when Miyazaki finally steps away for good, will that be the end of Studio Ghibli as we know it? Is The Boy and the Heron the last timeless classic we'll see from the famed studio?
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Van Gogh died in 1890. There has not been another Van Gogh. But there has been Picasso, Dali, O'Keefe, Khalo, and many more. New films won't be the same as Miyazaki's but they will have their own charm that makes them unique and beloved.
After Spirited Away became my favourite film of all time, I kept waiting for the next seminal fantasy from Miyazaki. That kind of never came. I have since liked other movies, but nothing scratched the same itch. The media and the artists you love are sometimes just once in a lifetime blips. They are not replicable and you just got to live with that
Sunao Katabuchi and Makoto Shinkai are the only ones that evoked the same level of emotion, to me. No other director came close.
I'm sick of seeing people call every new artist or studio the new Ghibli/Pixar
@@NoiseDay Is that a thing people have been saying?
Naoko Yamada embodies this statement. Speak the truth brother!
Hayao is a slave to his own success. I feel like he's been painted as a sort of tragic figure recently with his inability to find a true successor to the studio, but the fact is he did this to himself. He's notoriously difficult to work with, shoots down all ideas that aren't his, and completely incapable of fostering growth and nurturing creativity in younger artists so that they can succeed. The reason there's no successor is because he never left room for one and instead just got frustrated and said "I'll just do it myself since no one else can." It's very telling that Studio Ponoc exists because of the working environment under Miyazaki.
And Studio Ponoc hasn't developed anything that comes close to Ghibli's masterpieces. Yeah the animation may be splendid, but not on that level and also the themes and the direction is just more weeb shit or just Ghibli-adjacent cheap nostalgia.
@@Afreshio This view just comes across as bias to me. If you look at Ghibli's work under a more critical eye and actually accept their flaws, Studio Ponoc comes a lot closer than you think. Ponoc gets a lot of flack for being "the wannabe Studio Ghibli" and it's honestly pretty unwarranted.
I'm wondering if Miyazaki could codify a methodology for how he goes about his work. A "Hero's-Journey-diagram", of sorts, that could be a copywrited. He could also insist on ranges for experimentation, like "My studio only ever uses, max, 5% CGI."
@@devonbrockhaus6554 I believe someone could, yeah. Just not Hayao Miyazaki himself. Explaining his process has always been a huge weak point for him.
@@tabris95 I just watched Howl's Moving Castle for the first time recently, and aside from the beautiful animation and soundtrack, the plot was nonsensical. Things just happens suddenly at random, characters have no coherent arcs whatsoever, scene changes felt abrupt. It genuinely felt like a parody of Ghibli itself. Couldn't believe Hayao actually directed that one.
Even Spirited Away's 3rd act was pretty awkward with the Haku reveal that came up out of nowhere.
As good as Miyazaki is, he's still a human being and have his flaws too.
(Mononoke is still my personal favourite of his)
Let's be honest here, who else is still at Ghibli besides Miyazaki and his son? Miyazki and Takahata basically scared away any potential successors they could have had, some forming their own studios or joining others, and there's barely anyone who can carry on the studio's prestige
I'm so happy that more people are seeing this. I've been saying it for years and most fans just don't want to hear it.
Maybe nepotism wasn't a good idea?
Lot of people say he lives up to hubris and it justified. I’ll honest you are never justified to be a dick. You may be dedicated to the craft and may be the best but that doesn’t make you a good person.
The way he addressed and rejects ideas of people especially his own son; of course people will leave. The strain relations between him and his son. But I’m glad he tried to make amends and that he understands that he shouldn’t pass the torch he made rather let others to make their own and have a choice to take it and add their own fuel.
The restrictions and expectations are too much to pass down to anyone.
The vision of Takahata's and Miyazaki's is one of a kind. Other directors may be amazing at animating and visualizing, the problem is what to visualize. That's what put those directors above all others. It's not something you can wish your way into.
Look at a successful case, in the director of Evangelion. He was a protege of Miyazaki, but his vision is more otaku-weeb bullshit. Ghibli on the other hand always rise above those themes and tropes.
And you mention Goro but let's be honest his father is right. He is just not cut for the role. You cannot wish yourself to become a genius director like your father just because he is your father. It's not a birthright, it's an unusual talent.
Also the best candidate for being in charge of the studio died, and I'm not talking about Takahata. So it's not that they didn't tried to find a successor, is that both candidates just died from sickness.
Yoshiaki Nishimura or Hiromasa Yonebayashi could've easily become Ghibli's successor before they went on to form Ponoc.
Correction: Once Miyazaki DIES the studio is in trouble; that man has made it abundantly clear that he is never going to retire.
there is a 3rd possibility, AI gen art train on Ghibli style art and writing. Assuming Miyazaki calibrate the AI himself, it should be even more accurate than public imitator we have right now. So he can focus on higher level role and left the detail to AI
@@keenheat3335Ew
@@keenheat3335 Lol, I don't think there's a single person on this planet who detests generative AI more than Miazaki, so good luck with that
@@keenheat3335I don’t think people who truly enjoy ghibli movies, movies that are one of the best at depicting human traits in fantasy settings, want to look at genarated images for hours. Given that they’re still made starting with traditional media as well. 🤚😂
@@keenheat3335No, just no.
Hayao did this to himself. He can’t find someone to succeed him because he won’t let anyone do so, and insists that he’s the only one that can, opposed to shaping the next generation that’ll create masterclasses in their own unique way. There is one Hayao Miyazaki, and there will only be one Hayao Miyazaki. It’s his fault for expecting others to simply become a second version of himself.
All good things must come to an end. It’s not sad, it’s not bitter sweet, it’s simply a reason to dwell upon the memories you enjoy, and move on with time.
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Real. Came to share this thought as well.
Indeed! The silly expectation of immortality and limitlessness has infected a lot of peoples’ thinking
It is a little bittersweet bc that environment could have fostered a new creator with new vision of the same scale as he was and in current media landscape of cashgrabby sequels and soulless formulaic garbage for kids western studios spewing, in the age of AI there is an audience longing for soul and craft and artistry. That's why Arcane, Spiderverse and Blue eyed samurai were such hits. The longing is there but very few auteurs able to produce it. Ghibli could have given us a new one but it didn't.
idk why you're phrasing it like its just some objective truth that it isnt sad or bittersweet, things ending absolutely can be (and often are) sad or bittersweet.
Any director good enough to be Miyazaki’s successor is too good to be Miyazaki’s successor.
…and would probably head their own studio instead of taking over Ghibli
Goro will never make animation like his father and that's okay. If he keeps trying to make stuff like Hayao's work then it will not only never achieve that same quality but it won't be Goro's vision. People need to live the lives they want to live and the not the one that someone else has drawn out for them. Both parties will just end up being disappointed.
But Daddy, I love CGI! Let us do CGI! -Goro, probably
TBF Up On Poppy Hill actually felt like Ghibi movie and honestly was fantastic and well received
Partly because Miyazaki intervened too.
Yeah Up On Poppy Hill is great, I didn't realize that Goro directed it
@@princeblackelf4265 me either until I googled after the whole incest story line was weird but easily top 10 Ghibli
@@Afreshio yes, he did write the screenplay for that one.
i can't enjoy it with the incest in it.
It really feels like the environment Miyazaki created in his studio made it so stressful and awful that nobody who COULD carry on the legacy would wanna work there.
Goro and Hayao Miyazaki are basically Kendall and Logan Roy in real life.
Considering Goro's first movie was about a son killing his father, I'd say they're also a bit like the Lannisters too.
Common in Japanese families, which are very patriarchal.
Look at the documentary Jiro Dreams of Sushi. A similar father-son strained relationship too. VERY similar.
@@AfreshioMost families in the world are patriarchal, that doesn't mean there are bad relationships between father/son......and nowhere in Japanese culture say "the father should ignore the son"......the bad father/son relationship between Goro and Miyazaki is Miyazaki's fault, let's not make excuses like patriarchy or culture, we are talking about Miyazaki, a guy who clearly understands and expresses emotions in his films, if he dint put those same emotions in his relationship with the son is his responsibility....This guy said that he spent hours studying a girl for the character of Chihiro, copying all her movements in detail, and he couldn't put that effort into his own son... get out of here...
"The Boy and the Heron" (dubbed) was the 1st and only, apparently, Miyazaki movie I've seen in theaters. Free of the distractions inherent to watching at home, I saw just how crazy-powerful his world-building truly was. The sense of confusion mixed with wonder was inescapable (sensory isolation of the theater). In hindsight, I realized how much I underappreciated his other works and what made his fans so vehemently loyal. Virtuoso would be an excellent way to describe him.
I urge you to check Fathom events to see if they play Ghibli Fest at any nearby theaters for you.
It’s basically a yearly thing at this point, and watching Spirited Away, Porco Rosso, Castle in the Sky etc. are just enhanced on the big screen.
Building an entire company around one or two persons, whose outlook in life is far from optimistic, is not precisely a sound business strategy.
People without hope or optimism are more likely to lose passion and eventually retire. Hayao Miyazaki has repeatedly tried to retire and they beg him to return because he's the company itself.
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This really reminds me of a quote from spider man
"No one can live up to Tony Stark. Not even Tony Stark"
In this case no one can live up to Hayao Miyazaki's legacy. Not even Hayao Miyazaki.
Captions can't decide if the main character of The Boy and the Heron is Magneto, Mojito or mosquito . 6:12
Noticed that and laughed several times.
This is my headcanon now.
Maybe Magneto was having a mojito while being bitten by a mosquito. I wouldn't be surprised 😅
May perhaps, someone will find those blocks through spacetime and create something even more beautiful. That who knows maybe many will find the leftover blocks and make their own. In the end nobody else will have the same tower as Ghibli. But it's the memories that will be found through the fabric of life that we woven to capture those memories in our hearts.
I feel bad for Goro, and I think he should stay on his own path . Let his father figure out what happens to the studio.
Sometimes, you have to know when to sell the farm....
Nothing lasts forever.
His influence may skip a generation or two, but it won't disappear. Someone will come along to take up the mantle eventually and it's probably better that way.
I watched the Boy and the Heron and while it was beautifully animated. I was left feeling like the story was disjointed despite its themes. But this video gives me a new perspective, I didn't know the story could be implied to be so personal to Hayao's life. If that's the case, it feels like a send-off then.
It does not flow at easy as some of the other movie stories. Certainly not my favourite Ghibli movie.
Goro and Hayao Miyazaki follow the toxic father son relationship trope we see in great movies and shows.
Like Baki Hanma and his dad?
Studio Ghibli cannot continue because sadly Hayao Miyazaki is not immortal like his films and he also killed his son's potential by being a bad dad.
And he killed the entire studio by driving away every talented producer and animator they had by being a bad person. Ghibli will fall and it's 100% his fault.
@@kd9-3.77 And what of those producers and animators? What have they produced that comes close to Ghibli's masterpices?
NOTHING.
@@Afreshioso that justifies his awful behaviour?
Like the queen, both seemed so untouchable, immortal big than life, but he too will see his end eventually one day.
@@Afreshio Those producers and animators were literally the people that produced those Ghibli masterpieces...
Watched the movie in theaters and I am glad I did, it was one of the best movies I’ve seen in the last few years and brought back fond memories from when I was a kid and watched Spirited Away.
I cried like a little baby at the end of The Boy and the Heron, because it felt like Miyazaki saying goodbye to his legacy. Grieving it, even. Openly weeping about it (the flood). It's tragic, but beautiful. And the music perfectly encapsulates it.
6:14 I love how in the English subtitles of this video, Mahito’s name goes from Magneto to Mojito to Mosquito in a span of 20 seconds 😂😂😂
Great art is made personal. Goro should make something personal. Use his own life experience, instead of just trying to recreate his dad's work.
Or make a sequel to Jimmy neutron. That would be cool too
It should fall, not in a bad way, but as an end of an era so we can make way for a new era. Similar to some of the great classic rock bands, the ones that stopped while they were ahead have a better legacy then the ones who kept going into elderly age with subpar music.
Myiazaki is not only the greatest animation director of all time, he is one of the best and most consistent film directors in movie history (yes, he stands shoulder to shoulder with the greats of live-action cinema). Today, I see an atrocious tendency to denigrate an author's legacy by overlapping his personal life, faults and idiosyncrasies with his work.
We should not ignore everything that his cinema has taught us - the embrace of the fantastic and the magical; the acceptance and exploration of the ambiguity of the characters; the appreciation of loyalty and kindness; the important lesson of achieving redemption through dedication to one's work; respect for one's elders; the courage to face adversity; unconditional love for others and for nature. We are lucky to have been able to see such a work.
There's a part of me that wonders if several of the references to fish in the Boy and Herron was a coded apology / acceptance of Mamoru Oshi's work. It seemed that Miyazki was not always on the best speaking terms with him, and fish aren't commonly depicted in Ghibli's work... it tended to focus on birds and planes. Dunno doe...
I think I agree with Miyazaki. Studio Ghibli goes with him. It is too inextricably bound to his work. But its influence will live as long as there is animation, kind of like with Walt Disney and Chuck Jones, etc. There will be other great anime directors coming from Japan after Miyazaki is gone. They may even reach greater heights because they are standing on his giant shoulders.
I don't think I ever got into the Ghibli movies but I do respect the love for the studio and it and Hayao's works, so even I'm touched in some negative ways by all this. Is it just going to end like that...we'll see, but I'm not sure I'm worried for his son's future, he'll get there!
I always like your videos but this one might be my favourite yet. Thanks!
The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness... It was not just Myazaki but Takahata, Goro Myazaki, Yonebayashi, Kondō and Morita that were an integral part of the success of Ghibli.
I like this video. Yet, I think having no successor is not an issue if we looked back at the creation of Giblii. Giblii was, and still is, a studio for Takahata and Miyazaki, two already established animation giants in 80s, to make their dream projects come true. It is a tool for those two artists. Others might need to do what they did in the 70s: to establish themselves in the field and forge their own path.
They made Grave for the fireflies right?
Yes
@@ChaoticUrges Takahata did yes
That was directed by Takahata, yes. But something interesting about that movie, is that Ghibli doesn't actually own the complete rights to it.
@@pablocasas5906 that's confusing. how don't they own the rights?
@@Mykasan I think it's because the rights for Grave of Fireflies are partially owned by Shinchosha Publishing, who own the rights of the book the film is based on
It would be tragic (artistically if not necessarily financially) for Studio Ghibli to follow Disney's path after Walt died. That's the trouble with geniuses: they don't live forever, damn them.
Its seems that although Miyazaki has taught us all many lessons, there are some things he has never mastered himself. He has been able to lead a team of artists for so many years, but from the outside he does not seem to be able to teach his craft to someone else. In some ways this makes sense, as this level of story writing requires life experience and a special kind of creativity that is unique to every person. There can never be another Hayao Miyazaki. But there does not have to be. What might bring an end to Ghibli is that he was not able to teach others to write their own stories. But Goro Miyazaki seems a capable writer/director and it looks like he has a passion for it. According to his father he has not enough talent, but I have seen From Up On Poppy Hill and I liked it. I do not know how good he is, but I could imagine that he might have grown more with a helping hand from his father instead of conflict and rejection. The irony is that Hayao Miyazaki has wanted this himself. He has shown us that rather than finding and training a successor, he is willing to see his company fall apart. He is to proud to take on a proper mentee, as he feels they are not as good as he himself is. Therefore we should not be sad or feel sorry for him: deep down he must always have known it would come to this and he seems ready to accept that fate. So we should too. There is a beautiful collection of his movies to watch, and if there will be more that would be lovely. But if there will not be, we can all be greatful and content with the works Studio Ghibli has produced
0:19 both the "Disney Dark Ages" and the "Disney Renaissance" happened after Walt passed;
I just realized I haven't watched a single studio ghibli film, I'll need to check it out.
Just a heads up: Grave of the Fireflies will destroy you.
Spirited Away should be the last movie (if you plan on watching all of them). You know what they say, leave the best for last.
@@user-vx9jy7jl2l Nah, watch them all in release order, including starting off with non-SG films _Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro_ and _Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind._
@@Wired4Life2should people who are interested in Ghibli's works should also watch things like Hols, Heidi, Panda Go Panda, Anne of Green Gables, Lupin III, Marco in Search of Mother, Sherlock Hound, etc?.
My three favorite Ghibli movies are Ocean Waves, Whisper of the Heart, and From Up on Poppy Hill. None of which were directed by Miyazaki or Takahata.
It's been 500 years since Leonardo Da Vinci died. You cannot expect a new work from him now.
Films are a lot like paintings. You cannot expect a new Stanley Kubrick film now, given that he has been dead for 25 years. Or from Tarkovsky. Or acting work from Heath Ledger for that matter.
Same can be said for music (any new Michael Jackson song?). Or any form of human endeavour you can think of, even besides art.
I remember 3 years ago when I learnt of Kentaro Miura's death (if you know who he is, you know who he is). It broke my heart, and I've never wept so much for a person I never knew. But, well.
"Do not cry because it is over. Smile because it happened."
Better than ending up like disney and pixar...
Like Disney and Pixar? It appears we have another person buying into right wing talking points and ignoring facts. Yes, Chapek was dumb. Wanted quantity over quality and put them all on Disney+. Iger is back. A smart person. Things will be fine. And even some of the "bombs" they had were actually good. They were just review bombed and nobody went to them because day and day release.
They still continue to make quality content. Yes, Marvel struggled. But even then they all made good money. Stop living in this imaginary land where you just echo nonsense from those with an agenda.
@@Magdalena8008s ok.
@@Magdalena8008s its fine to let companies fade away sometimes. Ghibli has always been a one person show and people turn up to see what Miyazaki is doing. It's extremely difficult to pivot from that position when it's been built up over decades. Disney and Pixar creatively aren't pushing any boundaries or creating anything exciting currently. Would it be great if they turned it around? Yeah it would but I'm not overly hopeful.
@@Magdalena8008s lmao
@@OriginalItsFlyeven then we know studios like pixar, disney, laika, aardman, and dreamworks's works comprise by a large team effort and collaboration, comprise of more departments than just the person who pitches the movie idea. And these projects wont always be the same quality since there is always a new team and new creative perspectives throughout years or eras. When you think of ghibli, many tend to only focus on miyazaki as the main sole creator and developer,and navigator, heck the studio struggles when hes not around.
Generational talent is rare due to regression to the mean. Two very tall people will (on average) have a child who is taller than average but shorter than them. It is rare for top sports players to even have a child good enough to be a pro, let alone another legend. Same for scientists and artists. Expecting Hayao's son to be able to carry his legacy was folly to begin with. I would not expect it to even be a matter of training and conditioning, it probably was just never meant to be.
What a weird take. Miyazaki didnt even give his son a chance. People arent a set of means, or stat values what are you talking about? What are you some weird eugenicist or something? You cant quantity someone's potential like that. Thinking like that leads to this egocentric insanity Ghibli is dealing with. His son had all the "training" needed imo, guy is highly educated and well adjusted considering his father peaced out on the bare minimum requirements of being a supportive parent. His son since a very young age probably had exposure to things people can only dream of. This shapes your ability to create art. But does it guarantee success? No. No shit it doesnt. But I dont see how brain dead and narcissistic you have to be to pass up on a potential person to continue your legacy, who A. wants to do it, and B. is literally family. This is what happens when emotionally immature people rule the world. They only care about perfection concerning their own legacy. People are just numbers in the equation for their moby dick like obsession. Its sad and gross and so is your post lol.
What a weird take. Miyazaki didnt even give his son a chance. People arent a set of means, or stat values what are you talking about? What are you some weird eugenicist or something? You cant quantity someones potential like that. Thinking like that leads to this egocentric insanity Ghibli is dealing with. His son had all the "training" needed imo, guy is highly educated and well adjusted considering his father peaced out on the bare minimum requirements of being a supportive parent. Guy since a very young age had exposure to things people can only dream of. This shapes your ability to create art. But does it guarantee success? No. No shit it doesnt. But I dont see how brain dead and narcissistic you have to be to pass up on a potential person to continue your legacy, who A. wants to do it, and B. is literally family. This is what happens when emotionally immature people rule the world. They only care about perfection concerning their own legacy. People are just numbers in the equation for their moby dick like obsession. Its sad and gross and so is your post lol.
What a weird take. Miyazaki didnt even give his son a chance. People arent a set of means, or stat values what are you talking about? What are you some weird eug.... or something? You cant quantity someones potential like that. Thinking like that leads to this egocentric insanity Ghibli is dealing with. His son had all the "training" needed imo, guy is highly educated and well adjusted considering his father peaced out on bare minimum requirements of bring a supportive parent. Guy since a very young age had exposure to things people can only dream of. This shapes your ability to create art. But does it guarantee success? No. No shit it doesnt. But I dont see how brain dead and narcissistic you have to be to pass up on a potential person to continue your legacy, who A. wants to do it, and B. is literally family. This is what happens when emotionally immature people rule the world. They only care about perfection concerning their own legacy. People are just numbers in the equation for their moby dick like obsession. Its sad and gross and so is your post lol.
Ghibli had a great run.
I don’t like some of the recent stuff, but the library lives on. And that’s worthy of gratitude.
Really, I doesn’t matter if it continues. Other great creators will come - Mamoru Hosoda for example.
Oh damn I didn’t realise that about The boy and the heron, that’s so awesome
THANK YOU for being one of the few CZcamsrs who pronounces "Ghibli" correctly. I won't ever understand why it's so hard for so many CZcamsrs; they often DOUBLE-DOWN when it's explained to them, too. It was a relief to hear you use that "j" sound.
6:46 I thought I heard the Heron was supposed to be Toshio Suzuki. Also, you didn't mention Yoshifumi Kondo, who was once planned to take leadership in Ghibli before he died in 1998.
Yoshifumi Kondo was the most likely successor. Too bad he died of an aneurysm and the stress of working at Ghibli might have contributed to it.
Maybe, just maybe studio Ghibli was an extension of the man himself and it does not need any successors. When he is gone, let the company simply maintain his legacy.
this guy is a legend
Ghibli is better than Disney
You sound like a disney haters
They are more original.
Disney isn’t what they used to be just pixar.
while i like ghibli films, that just straight up bullshit.
Weeb
I loved Earthsea ... I remember how beautiful the scenery was
Feel sorry for Goro. He did a great job on Poppy Hill. Love that film so much.
I would absolutely love Studio Ghibli to continue with the work of Hayao Miyazaki in the future as well as his legacy of his own creation of this anime becomes a very interesting fan favorite for generations to come I just love nothing more but Studio Ghibli
Studio Ponoc tho!
There will never be another Miyazaki.
0:00 If thumbnail & video title are the supposed case, at least that's why the Glassworker must become that much more important from what I've seen of that animation's marketing.
Studio Ghibli doesn't necessarily need a competitor. Though in the vast catalogue of amination(s) regardless of format(s), Studio Ghibli just doesn't need to feel...
alone.
At least from their own merit.
I'm not sure if I can elaborate more, though it would make sense for that company standing & reputation to be the most anticipated contendor in the string of academy awards. And why they still retain that definitive recognition since their last awarding this year.
Bro ill do it
Why isn’t Laputa, City in the Sky, mentioned? It’s still my favorite childhood memory.
Yeah, I don't know why he didn't message you and ask what your favorite movie was and mention it just for you.
@@HarryBuddhaPalm well I’m not that egocentric lol. I was rather surprised not seeing Laputa that’s all. 🥹
I don't believe that you talked about the early days work of Miyazaki and forget about Mirai Shōnen Conan
The anime that made him well known
Man, Goro. Poor Goro.
I think all things need to come to an end
Even the good ones
maybe it’s my lack of media literacy, but i did not get what the boy and the heron was getting at, at all. though since this video explained it was like a metaphor with goro and hayao, it did make me appreciate the movie somewhat more
I will be honest with you. Their movies, their art style, its a blueprint for future animators and artists. There will definitely be someone that picks up the mantle and improves on it making more masterpieces in the future.
I loved many Ghibli movies when I was growing up. However, I did not enjoy The Boy and the Heron. I'm not sure if I aged out of it or if it didn't have the Ghibili magic the rest do. I can still rewatch previous Ghibli movies and still get that feeling; I just never got it from The Boy and the Heron.
You aged out of a semi-autobiographical from from an 83 year old? Just how old are you?
@@Nezui, it's clear you're just here to argue but hears some advice. Communicating is about trying to understand what the other person has said. If you're willfully trying to misinterpret what I've said to argue semantics, then you're not even worth acknowledging beyond this point.
They actually the said the same thing about Walt Disney.
They were right.
@@InvertedWIng Were they really? From me the company was flawed even during the so called golden age while Disney himself was still alive. Disney was a man who was dead set on making every thought be about him or his creations, by his later years.
While the state the company is right now is completely degraded and a shadow of what it may even been in the past, i can't deny that there was other creative minds inside, for example the people who made Lilo and Stitch.
@@InvertedWIngNo!? They created magic for almost 40 years without Walt Disney before becoming what they are today.
Walt himself was far more prolific with 19 animated features and scores of live action movies like Mary Poppins in his lifetime. The Disney Renaissance era was truly something itself with 10 very solid films. Though, Who Framed Roger Rabbit should be a very notable addition since it played a very vital role in kick starting the Renaissance era.
To me I see him more as a Leonardo Da Vinci, a Picasso, a Frida Kahlo figure as opposed to a traditional movie studio. He is his own unique artist and therefore there is no pure way to pass on the studio in its whole, it’s intricately tied to him as an artist, but instead the works that came out of it will act as inspiration to other artists. In a lot of ways he’s doing what in an alternate timeline Disney would have done after the death of Walt. Yes, there were other hands in making Disney the company what it is but Walt was the original visionary and as the decades have passed it’s become apparent that it’s harder and harder to maintain the original creativity and vision when other purposes need to be served.
I know he’s a bit of a notorious figure just as much as he is loved but in a lot of ways I think it comes from the fact he is a master artist in his craft and his ability to conjure and create from his own singularity is what gives his work their magic. A studio ghibli after his death, even if he was more open and free with his skill and craft knowledge in his life, would always be a pale imitation no matter how close they got because he is the artist and without him everything else is just copy. It leaves room for those he has inspired to take flight and create their own original works, where we can see the influence but they’re their own free thing. People who are good enough to live up to his name deserve their own legacy, not to live in his studios shadow.
There are people who would have loved to continue his impact and could have. But this world doesn't provide those opportunities anymore.
His legacy won't end like he wants it to. They will milk his name and work, morphing its substance even 100 years from now
'Let it pass now and become a legend or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.'
I could never achieve the level of understanding that Hayao Miyazaki is, but I do understand this, its best that he let his legacy end or let others spoil his and studio Ghibli work so hard to build.
You can see many examples of movie, anime and game studio fail to follow up their first founder goal.
Simple examples look at Disney now comparison to Disney in its golden era when Mr. Walt Disney lives sketch his masterpiece one after another.
Really would he want his legacy to continue on like Walt Disney’s seeing how that monstrosity has turned out?
It’s fine. Things end. When artists die their art remains.
glad to be this early lol
My prediction before watching the video: Cuz Hayao Miyazaki is too goated and no one can fill his creative shoes
Edit: Watched, called it 🐐
That kind of reminds me how every time people mention Ghibli's films they are always Miyazaki's works, with the exception of Grave of the Fireflies and perhaps Whisper of the Heart and Arriety
@@pablocasas5906 And for good reason. No knock on the other films/directors but Miyazaki to Ghibli is like Shigeru Miyamoto to Nintendo, that just is what it is
I hope 2d animation japanese movies don't end like Disney has stopped its sad I like 3d but there's something about 2d I love
Some romance Ghibli anime are just ❤❤❤
Studio Ghibli doesn’t need to continue past Miyazaki’s death. He is an auteur and no one can take his place. He knows this that’s why it’s better for those that have worked with him to set out on their own when he’s gone.
It feels so similar to the downfall of Disney…
It'll continue, you'll see
I recently saw Marnie Was There, and it is a better film than all but one or two of the movies Miyazaki has directed for Ghibli. Unfortunately the director of that film left the studio. It is proof though that the studio could find other talented directors if they wanted to. They just don't.
IMPO, Tales from Earthsea was an awesome tribute to Earthsea. The composite of various Earthsea stories paid homage to Ursula le Guin's world as a whole. It is just a pity that it didn't gain the eyeballs that it deserved. Perhaps one of the major problems is that it was a western fantasy story and folks were looking for a story closer tied to Japanese folklore. In any case, I thought that Goro got criticised unjustly instead of the studio addressing how the film was marketed.
Won best animated film of the year so they'll never die.
What Ghibli decides to do, they need to avoid what Disney did when Walt passed away, choosing a "what would Walt do?" mentality for decades, which stagnated and almost destroyed the company, until they finally pushed in a new direction.
Amazing vídeo. Please do a vídeo on Attack on Titan
2:02 I have heard it's a bit more nuanced than "based on a manga". The man wanted to make the movie, but couldn't get the backing he needed until there was a manga to base it on (who would ever make a movie with original IP, right?). Thus he made the manga.
I want Ghibli to do a animation story but in a futuristic world
Ghibli already found thier successor's to Hayao Miyazaki and with the exception of Makoto Shinkai they let them slip through their fingers. Most notably Hiromasa Yonebayashi (who directed Arrietty, When Marnie Was There, Mary and the Witches Flower) & Mamoru Hosoda (who directed Girl Who Lept Through Time, Wolf Children, Belle). When Miyazaki "retired" after Wind Rises that's when Yonebayashi left to help form Studio Ponoc. And lots of ex Ghibli staff went with him. Also Hosoda was the original director for Howl's Moving Castle before Miyazaki took over.
Yonebayashi, Hosoda & Shinkai have all proven they can make movies on par with Miyazaki himself. If Ghibli would've done things differently Yonebayashi & Hosoda would likely still be at Ghibli. Also personally I think Goro Miyazaki has the potential to fill is father's shoes in time.
It's sad to say but I'm mostly glad things ended up this way though. As a fan it's been nice to have a new Mamoru Hasoda, Makoto Shinkai, Studio Ponoc & Ghibli film all droping every 3 or so years. What I wish Ghibli would've done differently though is either nurtured Goro more or keep Yonebayashi. I really hope Ghibli can find a way forward though. Because there is still massive talent there Boy and the Heron is proof of that. They just need someone to guide them in the right direction and stear this ship.
They been saying there previous films were there last one and yet they still keeping making new ones
Well, after Walt Disney passed away... his company continued his legacy.
With cash-grab direct-to-video sequels and ditching 2D animation for soulless CGI slop and even more soulless, lazy live-action 'remakes'.
@@sterlingdavis8244 what are you talking about. Did you not watch aladdin, lion king, hercules, tarzan, the beauty and the beast, the hunchback of notre dame, or many more 2d animated films that came out long after walt disney died? Why are you just lying for no reason?
Miyazaki can put so many emotions in his films and at the same time have left the most important emotions, the ones he should have given to his family and his own son... it sounds like hypocrisy.
His son should strike to do it he own style.
CGI
Treasure what we have.
Wow i never relised the movie is actual based on his life
Out of Goro's features, the 3-D one is the one that frustrates me, not so much on the technical side, but more-so on the story side where the movie ends abruptly and without closure. I liked Up on Poppy Hill and even Earthsea. Clearly, not the same quality as his father's films, but not as terrible as what your criticism might allude to. I hope they find a successor that wants to be. I don't think it's fair to force someone into a mold that he, himself, isn't confident in being in. In that regard, I feel for Goro. Probably why we don't see too many success stories around nepotism because times change and evolve. While 2-D animation is their bread and butter, I don't think they should outright reject other forms of animation. They won't match what Miyazaki did, but it's best to remember that he wasn't the only one to work at Ghibli.
It also should be noted that it took time for Hayao Miyazaki to be hailed as a genius. Nobody starts out perfect (including Hayao Miyazaki). It takes time to hone your craft. And in my opinion Goro has the "potential" to fill his father's shoes in time.
Some things are not meant to last forever… and that’s ok. Recognizing the finite nature of things can help us value them more deeply while they last and find peace in their eventual conclusion.
I wish goro would do his own thing with his movies (no 3D tho.... That was sad to watch tbh) instead of trying to make movies that are indistinguisble to the ones that his father made. Sure id love to see more like totoro and such but id prefer to see a slight change in direction of studio ghibli rather than it flickering out completely because of miyazakis absence. Good things cant last forever and sometimes it's time to take a step in into the sometimes blurry future.
Real
Goro needs to make the worlds his story if he is an architect he needs to work on that create amazing worlds then story
"NAAAH I say let it die. "
"LET IT DIIE LET IT DIE!"
"LET IT SHRIVEL UP AND DIIIE!" -Miyazaki from The Lorax.
You're just casually leaving out that ghibli movies come out of a whole genre of anime called World Masterclass Theater. Miyazaki didn't casually wait 20 years before producing his first anime Naushikaa. He was working in the industry in the golden age of World Masterclass Theater. His iconic style is this genre, he didn't develop it by himself.
I think it would be kinda cool if his career went full circle and his ABSOLUTE final film was a Lupin III movie.
Studio ghibli will continue