How GOOD was Metagross ACTUALLY? - History of Metagross in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 3-6)

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  • METAGROSS! The Iron Leg Pokemon! Steven Stone’s ace Pokemon and psychic supercomputer! Is Metagross a meta defining Pokemon? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Metagross in competitive Pokemon!
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  • @joshuawilliams4741
    @joshuawilliams4741 Před 4 lety +5391

    Metagross: "I have four brains and the intelligence of a supercomputer."
    Pokemon Trainers: "Awesome! What can you do with that?"
    Metagross: *B I G P U N C H*

    • @Ozionian
      @Ozionian Před 4 lety +449

      I mean, it's insanely effective.
      Why wouldn't it big-punch?
      It got thos big hand

    • @berry5891
      @berry5891 Před 4 lety +496

      Pokemon trainers: "That's awesome! I think you're the only pokemon that can learn more than four moves or more!"
      Metagross: *"Did I say I have enough storage to do so?"*

    • @jamariirobinson725
      @jamariirobinson725 Před 4 lety +169

      Sometimes the best startegy is to just hit it really hard.

    • @svx4401
      @svx4401 Před 4 lety +30

      Big Boom

    • @blitzhd_8494
      @blitzhd_8494 Před 4 lety +99

      *turns off the light*
      Metagross: *Heavy breathing*

  • @legogeneralgrievous1173
    @legogeneralgrievous1173 Před 4 lety +4192

    That moment when the Fairy type was made to make pseudo-legendaries less dominant, but Metagross is super effective against them.

    • @michaelmodernsonicfan5341
      @michaelmodernsonicfan5341 Před 4 lety +57

      That moment when I didn’t ask

    • @legogeneralgrievous1173
      @legogeneralgrievous1173 Před 4 lety +568

      @@michaelmodernsonicfan5341 Seriously, Mega Metagross is the only counter to the Tapus, which completely dominate the metagame at this point.

    • @Philip-sq7un
      @Philip-sq7un Před 4 lety +7

      Baby Yoda Is God. Ur completely dumb, the tapus aint in swsh
      Wait for the crown tundra and then talk you idiot

    • @Philip-sq7un
      @Philip-sq7un Před 4 lety +11

      Baby Yoda Is God. Also consider talking about aggron

    • @legogeneralgrievous1173
      @legogeneralgrievous1173 Před 4 lety +171

      @@Philip-sq7un I meant the SM metagame.

  • @rafaynoman1180
    @rafaynoman1180 Před 3 lety +1641

    Fairy types: We were created to de-power dragon types.
    Metagross: And this gives you power over me?

    • @Rahul28196
      @Rahul28196 Před 3 lety +160

      Metagross, the only anti-fairy pseudo legendary.

    • @georgecortes3416
      @georgecortes3416 Před 3 lety +86

      @@Rahul28196 Literally every Pseudo-Legendary except Metagross is weak to Fairy-Types; every one has one or both of: Dragon, Dark, and Fighting!

    • @nickkayfabe6147
      @nickkayfabe6147 Před 3 lety +103

      @@georgecortes3416 Metagross bout to vibe check those sylveons

    • @cristianordonez7976
      @cristianordonez7976 Před 3 lety +52

      @@Rahul28196 Kommo-o and Hydreigon over here getting OHKO’d by literally any fairy move no matter how weak it is

    • @vikavoltisepic3507
      @vikavoltisepic3507 Před 3 lety +26

      We need a steel/poison dragon psuedo. Or just another non dragon psuedo that’s steel or poison

  • @abruptfury9920
    @abruptfury9920 Před 4 lety +1090

    It's interesting how well Mega Metagross benefits from all Terrains.
    *Electric:* Boosts Thunderpunch power.
    *Psychic:* Boosts Zen Headbutt & blocks priority Sucker Punch.
    *Grassy:* Weakens the power of certain Ground moves like EQ, recovery, boosts the power of a niche Grass Knot.
    *Misty:* Blocks status.

    • @TAKirbyStar
      @TAKirbyStar Před 4 lety +119

      Metagross was also weak to shadow sneak (hey, that rhymed!)

    • @SSJ2Pikachu
      @SSJ2Pikachu Před 4 lety +64

      @@TAKirbyStar Electric Terrain also prevents sleep and Psychic Terrain blocks all priority besides Prankster Haze!!

    • @meghanaingleshwar
      @meghanaingleshwar Před 3 lety +15

      What this comment should be:Electric- boosts thunder punch’s power Psychic-
      Boosts Zen Headbutts power and protects from priority Grassy- Weakens some ground moves like EQ and boosts a niche grass knot Misty- blocks will-o wisp.

    • @belimvasim143
      @belimvasim143 Před 3 lety +21

      @@meghanaingleshwar grassy terrain was most usefull one cause psychic terrains blocks his own bullet punch while grassy terrain reduced power of EQ d most used move vgc

    • @belimvasim143
      @belimvasim143 Před 3 lety +1

      @Mahati yes thats why grassy terrain is usefull

  • @pwowq
    @pwowq Před 3 lety +1093

    Just imagine giving Metagross levitate instead of light metal

    • @coderoses6386
      @coderoses6386 Před 3 lety +224

      screw megas, that's the power creep adjustment it deserves

    • @BladeTNT2018
      @BladeTNT2018 Před 3 lety +125

      Or Iron Fist

    • @BladeTNT2018
      @BladeTNT2018 Před 3 lety +34

      It learns a decent amount of punching moves

    • @orangehazzy.8286
      @orangehazzy.8286 Před 2 lety +56

      @Muhammad Ali Imran yeah in his normal form but his mega form could probably have levitate

    • @largenaq2935
      @largenaq2935 Před 2 lety +64

      @Muhammad Ali Imran Metagross travels around by levitating. Also, Eelektross is technically touching the ground in Gen 5, but it also travels around by levitating, hence its ability.

  • @grass324
    @grass324 Před 4 lety +779

    When I was a kid I thought Metagross is a cyborg crab

  • @TunaLeery
    @TunaLeery Před 4 lety +478

    Imagine exploding in your sleep

    • @gamincaimin9954
      @gamincaimin9954 Před 3 lety +64

      Only a super computer with four brains could accomplish such a play

    • @delgande
      @delgande Před 3 lety +6

      @@gamincaimin9954 5000iq

    • @axlr8deathpls294
      @axlr8deathpls294 Před 3 lety +5

      @@delgande thats alakazam's IQ despite it cant learn 4 moves

    • @SomethingBak
      @SomethingBak Před 3 lety +1

      That's because he had cancer and died jeez !
      You probably are just a moron

    • @tony76935
      @tony76935 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gamincaimin9954 Dynamax brain

  • @springtrap1156
    @springtrap1156 Před 5 lety +337

    When the speed issue for megas was fixed in gen 7
    Metagross was quick banned to ubers

    • @TheAetherleaf
      @TheAetherleaf Před 3 lety +21

      @person person ya that made me extremely sad :( metagross is my favorite pokemon

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 Před 3 lety +15

      When it lost its Mega evolution in Gen 8
      Metagross knew it would never rise to OU again

    • @spynix0718
      @spynix0718 Před rokem +6

      Such a shame how the mighty have fallen.

    • @Serperior1212
      @Serperior1212 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jaretco6423RU METAGROSS?

  • @chamber8234
    @chamber8234 Před 6 lety +892

    The following Pokémon have already been analyzed:
    Aerodactyl
    Alakazam
    Ampharos
    Arcanine
    Articuno
    Azumarill
    Blastoise
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    Charizard
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    Donphan
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    Dunsparce
    Espeon
    Feraligatr
    Flareon
    Garchomp
    Gardevoir
    Gengar
    Gligar/Gliscor
    Golbat/Crobat
    Gyarados
    Heracross
    Houndoom
    Jolteon
    Lapras
    Machamp
    Magneton/Magnezone
    Meganium
    Metagross
    Moltres
    Nidoking
    Onix/Steelix
    Pikachu
    Poliwrath
    Porygon/Porygon2
    Porygon-Z
    Quagsire
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    Snorlax
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    Umbreon
    Unown ( czcams.com/video/qH659IHtjvU/video.html )
    Vaporeon
    Venusaur
    Wigglytuff
    Zapdos
    Please vote on Pokémon that are NOT seen on this list for FalseSwipeGaming’s next analytic video.

  • @jaschabull2365
    @jaschabull2365 Před 6 lety +790

    You know, next week it will be Mother's Day. I believe it is only appropriate that kangaskhan is the next pokémon to get the spotlight.

    • @TheGreatBryan25
      @TheGreatBryan25 Před 6 lety +39

      Jascha Bull
      You could do that. Or you could show the Luv... disc.
      #LuvdiscClub

    • @1yoshi426
      @1yoshi426 Před 6 lety +29

      *OR* you could.... wait for smash 5
      lol wrong channel

    • @JohnDoe-qq8ws
      @JohnDoe-qq8ws Před 5 lety +4

      That already happened

    • @mjarevalo7210
      @mjarevalo7210 Před 5 lety +3

      Awesomeness The Great #1 when he commented this,that was before ultimate.

    • @retiredwestbrookfan6049
      @retiredwestbrookfan6049 Před 4 lety

      1yoshi426 lol

  • @henri-leonlebesgue5471
    @henri-leonlebesgue5471 Před 5 lety +659

    And now in gen7 mega metagross even got banned
    But at least regular Metagross has dropped to RU, yeah rarely used .... imagine people 10 years ago if you told them that

    • @Nephalem2002
      @Nephalem2002 Před 4 lety +82

      They seriously need to stop banning None legendaries. Like Zapdos and Ultra beasts are more unfair then him.

    • @dtexdarkus
      @dtexdarkus Před 4 lety +70

      someguyfromcanada TBSL I would say Landorus first. When I found out that it’s trio was allowed I was shocked. Same for the Tapus.

    • @gustavorodriguez8702
      @gustavorodriguez8702 Před 4 lety +11

      @@Nephalem2002 Watch Blunder's recent video about Mega Metagross.

    • @acemerceramv8561
      @acemerceramv8561 Před 4 lety +3

      someakatsukifromcanada 9 Not really...

    • @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63
      @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 Před 4 lety +50

      @@Nephalem2002 I would absolutely love to hear why Zapdos is more broken in OU than mega terrain abuser.

  • @sinuscolt7635
    @sinuscolt7635 Před 4 lety +113

    Metagross in the earlier gens: suicide is badass

  • @AsianWithHat
    @AsianWithHat Před 6 lety +384

    *How GOOD was Swampert ACTUALLY?*
    *I WILL NEVER GIVE UP*

  • @AyranLP
    @AyranLP Před 6 lety +498

    How GOOD was MILOTIC Actually? Once there was a Fishsquad, that didn't get their video, now they finally... wait. They still didn't. Fishsquad, where you at?

    • @icebat10
      @icebat10 Před 6 lety +4

      Milotic shall rise, RISE!

    • @jennytalia6724
      @jennytalia6724 Před 6 lety +12

      how much of a pain in the bass was Feebas actually?

    • @nightshrine4257
      @nightshrine4257 Před 6 lety +3

      Just ask Wallace or Cynthia Milotic is pretty good with high Sp atk and Sp def. And it keeps fking healing itself but for some reason it dies so easily

    • @martytu20
      @martytu20 Před 6 lety

      Irrelevant since the physical-special split.

    • @AzureRaven2
      @AzureRaven2 Před 6 lety +3

      Hardly irrelevant, Milotic only recently dropped down to RU, it's still a solid bulky water.

  • @decidueyefan3844
    @decidueyefan3844 Před 6 lety +1349

    Bulky water types
    Bulky water types
    Every vid,
    It’s just...
    BULKY WATER TYPES!!!

    • @nerothewateruser8030
      @nerothewateruser8030 Před 5 lety +168

      Always be wary of bulky water types

    • @jdmannnn
      @jdmannnn Před 5 lety +29

      Water

    • @dragold456
      @dragold456 Před 5 lety +50

      I love bulky waters

    • @dragold456
      @dragold456 Před 5 lety +119

      Bulky water types are a staple of the competitive metagame mainly because of their good defenses only 1or2 weaknesses or more depending on the pokemon and some like swampert gastrodon milotic azumarill primarina vaporeon and tapufini

    • @akashrai2524
      @akashrai2524 Před 5 lety +20

      Skarmory

  • @officerdoggy8186
    @officerdoggy8186 Před 4 lety +80

    "It went through fairy types like a hot steel knife through some... Fairy butter."
    Damn i exploded when i heard that

  • @Lotus_RT
    @Lotus_RT Před 6 lety +279

    It's been mentioned a lot before, so let's give it its own video now...
    *How good was Dugtrio ACTUALLY?*

  • @JulianimeIsAmazing
    @JulianimeIsAmazing Před 6 lety +441

    How about we tackle the OTHER ridiculously powerful pseudo-legendary from Gen 3, Salamence?

    • @AnthonyJohnson-zk7cc
      @AnthonyJohnson-zk7cc Před 6 lety +7

      hey! Flygon is just wayyyy better

    • @jasonfondeur376
      @jasonfondeur376 Před 6 lety +11

      mega salamence is uber tier and regular salamence is under used there's your analysis

    • @quintonblackburn3916
      @quintonblackburn3916 Před 6 lety +19

      Technically, mence is BL, since it's to much for UU with Flyinium Z, but the fairy dominant OU, plus the existence of better DDance users, means it's barely worth using there. While Megamence is one of the best megas in Ubers, just below Megagar.

    • @anirudhankumble3586
      @anirudhankumble3586 Před 6 lety +2

      DropFuse 35 nope

    • @iggnifyre6333
      @iggnifyre6333 Před 6 lety +1

      +jason fondur Why are you even here if you don't care?

  • @ianthecoolthief6226
    @ianthecoolthief6226 Před 4 lety +474

    Imagine a champion that uses pseudo legendaries with competitive strategies.

    • @ivanzegarra9765
      @ivanzegarra9765 Před 3 lety +95

      Gen 9 Champion using Metagross, Hydreigon, Dragapult, Garchomp, Tyranitar and a new one with an anti Ice typing with items like Assault Vest, Life Orb, a Mega Stone and the return of the Power Gems (looking at a Ground Gem Garchomp), that would make everyone stop complaining about Pokemon being too easy

    • @xMikeyHardyx
      @xMikeyHardyx Před 3 lety +7

      Iván Zegarra Galarian Dragonite is gonna be Dragon/Ice if that matches

    • @markpagtama7954
      @markpagtama7954 Před 3 lety +41

      Or. A champion that uses bulky water types, gen 5 power creep, and fighting types.

    • @brianchan8
      @brianchan8 Před 3 lety +1

      Iván Zegarra ok go mega rayqaza. Seriously though you forgot majakarp ratata metapod etc

    • @MrcreeperDXD777
      @MrcreeperDXD777 Před 3 lety +23

      @@ivanzegarra9765 fairies would demolish that team

  • @whichDude
    @whichDude Před 4 lety +104

    Love my robo spider standing out from all the reptilian pseudo legendaries.

    • @atypicalglance353
      @atypicalglance353 Před 3 lety +17

      We need more pseudo legendaries that aren't dragon type. It's getting boring to have an overpowered non legendary dragon in each generation.

    • @Drakorre
      @Drakorre Před 3 lety +17

      They had a thing going with t-tar and metagross and they suddenly stopped. Hopefully next gen the pseudo Is something unexpected like idk Ice/Poison

    • @whichDude
      @whichDude Před 3 lety +8

      @@Drakorre I like that T-tar isn't a dragon, but it's still a reptile like the rest. Metagross sticks out in the best way. Shouldn't be that hard. Starters are all pretty different.

    • @alexdrake4081
      @alexdrake4081 Před 3 lety +10

      Let’s be real here, even though tyranitar isn’t a dragon it looks like a dragon and has dragon type moves so Metagross is they true exception

    • @eddiefernandez5052
      @eddiefernandez5052 Před 3 lety +2

      @@alexdrake4081 real talk: we need an ice type speedy glass cannon, because we only have weavile in that department, and ice type is the defenition of a glass cannon. I would love it if something like that was the next pseudo.

  • @thomassantos3684
    @thomassantos3684 Před 6 lety +333

    I'd actually be curious to see the weird path that Kangaskhan took throughout the years prior to generation 6. So, how good was Kangaskhan (before its child fell out and began wrecking in OU)?

    • @clqliveson
      @clqliveson Před 6 lety +7

      Thomas Santos ass.

    • @110000116699
      @110000116699 Před 6 lety +12

      Thomas Santos honestly complete garbage

    • @phnexOice
      @phnexOice Před 6 lety +15

      Well for one Mega Kangaskhan is in Ubers, but outside of that, bad, Kangaskhan has been outclassed by pretty much every other prominent normal type in competitive history for one way or another

    • @westhescrub
      @westhescrub Před 6 lety +26

      Before mega, it was just budget tauros

    • @yungmuney5903
      @yungmuney5903 Před 6 lety +1

      Thomas Santos Thats a funny way of spelling mega kangaskhan

  • @kokichiouma5286
    @kokichiouma5286 Před 6 lety +58

    How GOOD wasTangela/Tangrowth ACTUALLY?

  • @markfoley9020
    @markfoley9020 Před 2 lety +44

    Imagine mega metagross being able to use close combat, it would break every bone in your Pokémon’s body

  • @ClaireDiVODer
    @ClaireDiVODer Před 6 lety +135

    I remember years ago, seeing Metagross in the strategy guide to Ruby/Sapphire, and it was love at first sight. Its crazy awesome design, combining two of my favorite types; it didn’t even need to have been a competitively good Pokémon for me to like it, but the fact that it was amazing was icing on an already wonderful cake. To this day, it remains my favorite, even if some have come a little close to beating it out... but only close (looking at you, Mega Mawile).

  • @DerSamalander
    @DerSamalander Před 6 lety +360

    How GOOD were Misdreavus and Mismagius ACTUALLY?

  • @jeroenb699
    @jeroenb699 Před 6 lety +177

    Now for the other pseudo,
    Salamence!

  • @Kalenz1234
    @Kalenz1234 Před 2 lety +42

    "Arguably the two best types in the game."
    Gen 6 Mawile: Ahem.

    • @firezera
      @firezera Před 2 lety

      Zacian-C:

    • @stealthyshadow567
      @stealthyshadow567 Před 2 lety +1

      Pre gen 6 sableye

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 Před 2 lety +1

      @@stealthyshadow567 Being immune to 3 types and only be hit for x2 by bug was pretty neat ya.

    • @potatoking4227
      @potatoking4227 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Kalenz1234 it was neutral to bug types. Ghost resists bug.

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 Před 2 lety

      @@potatoking4227 Oh wow even ghost resists bug.

  • @Quix0tic707
    @Quix0tic707 Před 3 lety +123

    Finally Sun and Moon...
    Mega evolution received a buff in Gen 7, with megas getting their new speed immediately upon transformation, meaning Metagross no longer had to spend a turn at base 70. In the early days of Sun and Moon, it didn't see that much use, as it was outclassed almost completely by Mega Lucario and walled by Aegislash. However, once they got banned, Mega Metagross absolutely flourished. It loved all of the terrains, with Electric Terrain giving it a stronger Thunder Punch, Grassy Terrain giving it passive recovery and weakening Earthquake and Misty Terrain keeping it free from status. But it was Psychic Terrain that it loved the most, giving it an immunity to Mega Mawile's Sucker Punch and powering up its Zen Headbutt to massive levels. On top of all that, most of Metagross's old threats, like Skarmory, Slowbro, Suicune and Gliscor, had fallen out of favor to be replaced by Celesteela, which had no reliable recovery and could quickly be worn down by Thunder Punch, Toxapex, which was weak to Zen Headbutt and Tapu Fini, which was neutral to Steel. Mega Metagross had no safe switchins. Landorus-T got wrecked by Ice Punch, Celesteela got 2HKOed by Thunder Punch in Electric Terrain and Toxapex would crumble to Zen Headbutt. Rotom-Wash could take a hit and burn it, but if Psychic Terrain was up Zen Headbutt would 2HKO. Heatran could melt it with Magma Storm, but if it had Earthquake or Hammer Arm, Heatran was toast. While it couldn't run every move, it could always potentially be running the right move, and you wouldn't know until it was too late. Eventually it was deemed too much for OU and banished to Ubers. Between Mega Salamence, Gengar and Lucario, there was no reason to use Mega Metagross, and once Ultra Sun and Moon came out and introduced Dusk Mane Necrozma and with that Mega Metagross was forgotten.
    Regular Metagross didn't have life so easy. OU was beyond its reach now, but even UU was too much for the metal crab to handle. It was too slow, and too easily forced out by common Pokemon like Krookodile, Hydreigon, Moltres, Rotom-Heat, Swampert and Suicune. It was also outclassed by Scizor and Cobalion, which both had better typing and could boost with Swords Dance. Its usage dropped so low that it found itself in RU alongside fellow pseudo legendary Goodra. In RU, however, it was amazing. It usually ran an offensive Stealth Rock set, and between Shuca Berry, Toxic and Explosion, could keep Stealth Rock up against Donphan and Mandibuzz. But if Stealth Rock was taken care of by a teammate, Metagross could run its old Choice Band set that would smash holes through teams like nothing else in the tier, or an Agility set designed to sweep late game. It could even use Choice Scarf, to outrun and surprise Raikou and Salazzle with a super effective Earthquake. Once Gligar, Doublade and Chesnaught rose to UU, it climbed even higher, becoming one of the most popular Pokemon in the tier and arguably the best, finishing in S Rank on Smogon's viability rankings.
    Huge Attack and Steel STAB was welcome in Gen 7 VGC, in a metagame where every team had at least one Tapu on it. While it did face stiff competition from Kartana as an offensive Steel type, which had much more power, Metagross had better Special bulk, no 4X weakness and Clear Body, giving it an immunity to Intimidate, so unlike Kartana in wouldn't have to run in fear of Arcanine. While it wasn't one of the most common Pokemon, it had a solid niche, and saw a decent amount of usage. In worlds in the masters division it grabbed a 4th place at the hands of Japan's Tomoyuki Yoshimura. In seniors it grabbed 7th place at the hands of Izumi Motoe. Finally in junior's it came in 8th place at the hands of Paraguay's William Axel Jesus Sanchez Bernal. Metagross got its mega stone back for 2018, where it basically did what it had before but better. It wasn't one of the flashier megas, but if you needed something to check the tapus, which you did, it would rarely steer you wrong. At worlds in the Masters division it placed 3rd at the hands of Sweden's Nils Dunlop and 8th at the hands of Italy's Arash Omati. In the Senior Division it placed 3rd in the hands of Japan's Shota Yamada and 4th in the hands of Peru's Gabriel Duran. Finally in Juniors it racked up 3 places in the top 8, coming 3rd place at the hands of Japan's Yujio Arai, 6th at the hands of the UK's Teddy French and 8th at the hands of Italy's Riccardo Cantrell. However, once the restricted meta of 2019 rolled around, Necrozma-Dusk Mane came to outclass Mega Metagross once again. It couldn't even claim the Clear Body niche, since Solgaleo had effectively a better version of Clear Body. There was no reason to use Mega Metagross in VGC 2019, thus nobody did.

    • @gamechanger700
      @gamechanger700 Před 3 lety +20

      Imagine 8 years ago telling a Metagross user that Metagross would be RU

    • @Quix0tic707
      @Quix0tic707 Před 3 lety +10

      Araf Zaman SSR fanclub At least it was amazing in RU though. It didn't end up like those Pokemon that are too strong for one tier yet too weak for the one ahead (Staraptor, Entei, SM Darkrai etc.)

    • @TheAetherleaf
      @TheAetherleaf Před 3 lety +2

      just pointing out that this is gen 7, not gen 8. I am not trying to be a prick, just telling you, so please no hard feelings.

    • @Quix0tic707
      @Quix0tic707 Před 3 lety +2

      @@TheAetherleaf thanks have edited.

    • @TheAetherleaf
      @TheAetherleaf Před 3 lety +2

      @@Quix0tic707 no problem

  • @jptheflipper3825
    @jptheflipper3825 Před 6 lety +33

    How GOOD was Clefable ACTUALLY?

  • @cheapsofa6450
    @cheapsofa6450 Před 6 lety +246

    How good was Swampert ACTUALLY????

    • @nekman8521
      @nekman8521 Před 6 lety +1

      CheapSofa please it was my first pokemon

    • @bookroach6742
      @bookroach6742 Před 6 lety +3

      Incredibly overpowered in-game and pretty decent competitively.

  • @NightmareZerogbs
    @NightmareZerogbs Před 4 lety +83

    Imagine being so OP that you caused one of your types to be nerfed by losing two resistances.

    • @extrahachse3118
      @extrahachse3118 Před 4 lety +21

      That acually caught me off guard because I skipped Gen 6. I was really suprised to see my Magnemite take so much damage all of a sudden

  • @ImmaFarmerInMalaysia
    @ImmaFarmerInMalaysia Před 5 lety +20

    Grass Knot is actually a surprisingly good option for Mega Metagross because it's one of only a few special contact moves, allowing it to get boosted by Tough Claws, and it helps against bad matchups like Slowbro and Mega Swampert.

  • @jaqwon14
    @jaqwon14 Před 6 lety +45

    HOW GOOD WAS SALAMENCE LET'S FINISH THE GEN 3 PSEUDO DUO

  • @TheVengefulVadam
    @TheVengefulVadam Před 6 lety +280

    How good was Magmar/Magmortar ACTUALLY?

  • @oqo3310
    @oqo3310 Před 3 lety +24

    One of my favourite pokemon ever, if not my favourite. Also I'm so sad that it was only nerfed, and that his mega was banned to uber where it was completly inferior to necrozma dusk mane.

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 Před 3 lety +1

      The poor guy got screwed in Gen 8 again
      No mega Megagross anymore :( and more Pokemon that screw it easily

  • @2ZH
    @2ZH Před 6 lety +21

    Hands down favorite poke of all time. Remember when 3rd came out and saw him for the first time I know what needed to be on my team. And for the longest time I didn't know he was that much of a power house tell i started playing competitively XD so even better

    • @Jaronite
      @Jaronite Před 2 lety +3

      Oh boy, back in the day, the joy I sparked when I had a shiny beldum. Instantly made it my main.
      But in pvp my friends mostly picked Swampert, so.... RIP my Shiny Metagross

    • @2ZH
      @2ZH Před 2 lety +1

      @@Jaronite yeah I understand that one, a good earthquake is bad news for him.

    • @HannibalKantter
      @HannibalKantter Před 2 lety +1

      Getting an useless Beldum with nothing else but Take Down from Steven as a kid, and then training him until it evolved was so worth it. Seeing those stats at lvl 45 that already rivalized with many of its lvl 55-60 teammates, such fond memories. It became my favourite Pokémon until Gen 4 came around and a certain Sand Dragon-Shark took its place. But I guess the Silver medal fits for Metagross

  • @CritsuKirby
    @CritsuKirby Před 6 lety +40

    How good was Mewtwo actually? (Now with 90% less of squiggly chimeras in need of the Gen. 4 treatment)

  • @HerculesMays
    @HerculesMays Před 6 lety +67

    How GOOD was the original Perish Trapper, Misdreavus (And later Mismagius) ACTUALLY?

  • @bkebradley
    @bkebradley Před 6 lety +72

    With Mega Meta in Ubers now, I would love to see Meteor Mash get back its 100 power. I really want Explosion to halve Def again too, but that's not so much a Metagross thing.

    • @arbetor12
      @arbetor12 Před 6 lety

      biaza hi Mugi

    • @chuyrenteria6252
      @chuyrenteria6252 Před 5 lety +25

      And unfortunately, much like salamence in gen 4 ubers, mega metagross ended up like a poor man's necrozma dusk mane.

  • @bradyreynolds1044
    @bradyreynolds1044 Před 6 lety

    These videos have improved so much, awesome job!

  • @SamuelSamuelSamuel1
    @SamuelSamuelSamuel1 Před 6 lety +439

    How good was Milotic actually
    #FishSquad #NotMyLuvdisc
    #antidisestablishmentarianism

    • @Zhfreak
      @Zhfreak Před 6 lety +2

      Milotic's gotta win eventually!

    • @SamuelSamuelSamuel1
      @SamuelSamuelSamuel1 Před 6 lety +2

      Zhfreak ikr

    • @TheGreatBryan25
      @TheGreatBryan25 Před 6 lety +1

      Milotic, Milotic, I love you, and I'm gonna let you finish, but Luvdisc is the best water type in history.
      #LuvdiscClub was here.

  • @dragooncroft
    @dragooncroft Před 6 lety +136

    Can you do a video explaining the weather wars of gen 5?

    • @Shadrake
      @Shadrake Před 6 lety +1

      Dragooncroft I like this idea

    • @nuclearpzn
      @nuclearpzn Před 6 lety +2

      Dragooncroft Wonderful weather we're having.

    • @idizme4316
      @idizme4316 Před 6 lety

      He said in one of his video that he will do ANY pokemon if it gets enough votes

    • @edwuano7
      @edwuano7 Před 6 lety

      cool idea!

    • @TheGreatBryan25
      @TheGreatBryan25 Před 6 lety +14

      The Weather Wars... we remember them well...
      Drenching rains...
      Scorching sun...
      And the sandstorms... oh, the sandstorms...
      You'll have to excuse us for not speaking of the Weather Wars...
      Most of us barely made it out alive...

  • @eateggs
    @eateggs Před 4 lety +38

    13:21
    I asked myself why Zygarde was in B/W and is flying.
    Then I realized.
    *it's Hydreigon*

    • @TAKirbyStar
      @TAKirbyStar Před 4 lety +8

      *🅱️ R U H*

    • @gamesnig
      @gamesnig Před 3 lety +1

      🅱️ R U H

    • @eateggs
      @eateggs Před 3 lety +1

      HYDREIGON LOOKS LIKE A ZYGARDE THERE SHH

  • @luciusirving5926
    @luciusirving5926 Před 3 lety +11

    Metagross always had OU success. Even his base special attack is incredible. By the way, I recommend giving this bad boy a Choice Specs and Sleep Talk for countering Hypnosis or Spore users.
    Mega Metagross is just Gamefreak giving the Pokémon immunity to powercreep.

  • @cabooseDace
    @cabooseDace Před 6 lety +48

    How Good was Dusclops and Dusknoir ACTUALLY? Coolest Ghost Type

    • @OverGoatfromTT
      @OverGoatfromTT Před 6 lety +3

      PKdude Gengar man come on

    • @rodrigofigueiredo8597
      @rodrigofigueiredo8597 Před 6 lety +3

      Give it more HP and better STAB physical moves,that's all it needs but Gamefreak hates it for some reason

    • @cabooseDace
      @cabooseDace Před 6 lety

      I feel so bad for him ;-;

  • @MapCRimSoNCobRa117
    @MapCRimSoNCobRa117 Před 6 lety +391

    TENTACRUEL and DUGTRIO are the only gen 1 pokemon that were very successful in later gens that hasn't had a video yet.
    We need a video of them.

    • @iXShadow
      @iXShadow Před 6 lety +26

      MapCRimZ and clefable

    • @marcelomarcelo514
      @marcelomarcelo514 Před 6 lety +47

      At least dugtrio and tentacruel did things before gen 6

    • @Akario3
      @Akario3 Před 6 lety +9

      yeh please tentacruel

    • @loganrhoades7047
      @loganrhoades7047 Před 6 lety +8

      Clefable I know for a fact is very good in DPP

    • @MapCRimSoNCobRa117
      @MapCRimSoNCobRa117 Před 6 lety +9

      Logan Rhoades it was UU or RU in every gen until gen 6. It got magic guard in gen 4, which was a nitch, but that's it.

  • @Lostcory
    @Lostcory Před 6 lety

    FINALLY! I've been waiting forever for this video!

  • @normalhotburger8313
    @normalhotburger8313 Před 5 lety +11

    Video: How strong was metagross acctually?
    Me: Yes

  • @pokemonshowdownmaster4787
    @pokemonshowdownmaster4787 Před 6 lety +43

    How overpowered was SALAMANCE actually

    • @ralphmarges2965
      @ralphmarges2965 Před 4 lety

      @Zedrik Allen genwunner

    • @ralphmarges2965
      @ralphmarges2965 Před 4 lety

      @Zedrik Allen or your just a guy who doesnt know anything about pokemon and always say "pikachu"

    • @ralphmarges2965
      @ralphmarges2965 Před 4 lety

      @Zedrik Allen wait.........oh sorry about that i thought you didnt know what a salamence is

    • @ralphmarges2965
      @ralphmarges2965 Před 4 lety

      @Zedrik Allen hey i aint no genius "hides my team of uturning landorus defog tapu fini ash greninja sword dance mega pinsir pursuit alolan muk and magnet trapping magnezone"

  • @johnwood7603
    @johnwood7603 Před 6 lety +653

    JUST GIVE US SALAMENCE ALREADY RRREEEEE

    • @neonflashsparkotron5435
      @neonflashsparkotron5435 Před 6 lety +4

      I waited for him so long!!

    • @Ego-Fiend
      @Ego-Fiend Před 6 lety +9

      NOW IM AS STRONG AS A BAAARGE People actually prefer to see the history of garbage pokemon more (Not saying metagross is garbage)

    • @PittsburghSonido
      @PittsburghSonido Před 6 lety

      NOW IM AS STRONG AS A BAAARGE YES

    • @datboishiz3474
      @datboishiz3474 Před 6 lety +2

      GIVE US MY FAV DRAGON
      GIVE US THE MONSTER

    • @balloonperson1115
      @balloonperson1115 Před 6 lety +1

      NOW IM AS STRONG AS A BAAARGE
      Mence is summed up as: a bit better than dragonite.

  • @shady8045
    @shady8045 Před 5 lety +13

    7:35 hold up, the second place finisher at VGC 2009 used shedinja, moltres and yamega on the same team, what a legend

  • @an3582
    @an3582 Před 5 lety +6

    I dont do competitive pokemon, but i found this channel during a dark point in my life and it helped a lot, just because i love pokemon and its really easy to just binge these. Keep up the good work.

  • @AmythystSerenade
    @AmythystSerenade Před 6 lety +67

    How good was misdreavus/mismagius ACTUALLY?

  • @SJrad
    @SJrad Před 6 lety +105

    how come when something has "meta" in the name, it is actually meta. first metagross and then meta knight in brawl.

  • @shippidge5316
    @shippidge5316 Před 3 lety +12

    That moment when a Pseudo Legendary is sent to RU, but VENOMOTH IS UU!! That's power creep at its finest

    • @JoetadXD
      @JoetadXD Před 2 lety

      Dragonite: Still Good
      Ttar: Still Good
      Salamence (Regular): Okay
      Metagross (Regular): why tf is he so low now?
      Garchomp: Still Good
      Hydreigon: Still Good, just not as good as in Gen 5

  • @el_mal_de_ojo
    @el_mal_de_ojo Před 5 lety +6

    They went all out on the design of Metagross, I'm convinced they tried extra hard when designing that Pokemon to make it as badass as possible. Then they took it to the next level with Mega Metagross and the shiny version. My favorite Pokemon, easily.

  • @worldofmonterra
    @worldofmonterra Před 6 lety +116

    Please do Salamence and was it good

    • @endre7984
      @endre7984 Před 6 lety

      Patricia Lopez Wrong place for ads. XD

  • @panwp123
    @panwp123 Před 6 lety +34

    How good was SALAMENCE actualy?

  • @ankitrakesh996
    @ankitrakesh996 Před 2 lety

    Rewatching this, one of my favourite Pokémon. Can't wait for its re-review

  • @phoebe5114
    @phoebe5114 Před 6 lety +98

    Weezing... actually comes up a lot. So how good was it? Must have been at least pretty damn good through Gen 3.

  • @psychicslowbrohi1099
    @psychicslowbrohi1099 Před 6 lety +38

    How good was clefable actually

  • @guildmasterri5995
    @guildmasterri5995 Před 6 lety +45

    You should honestly do salamence next

  • @trllgc7178
    @trllgc7178 Před 4 lety +47

    Let this sink in, Quagsire is a tier above Metagross in Gen 7 currently

  • @iBenjamin1000
    @iBenjamin1000 Před 3 lety +5

    It did the meteor mash
    (Mee-tee-or mash) It was a banded smash
    (Mee-tee-or mash) Took 'em down with a crash
    (Mee-tee-or mash) It did the METEOR MASH
    ;ouwrhfoi;eqfh;weoahfewhfilf (Metagross' cry)

  • @Senkaif
    @Senkaif Před 6 lety +28

    GIVE US THE DANG DRAGON SALAMENCE?! plz...

  • @angelo9707
    @angelo9707 Před 6 lety +193

    How GOOD was Banette ACTUALLY?
    °¤°

  • @iTzyaboifumbl3s
    @iTzyaboifumbl3s Před 6 lety

    Awesome video man keep it up 💪

  • @shookshark9870
    @shookshark9870 Před 3 lety

    i love this guy to the point i forgot all of the pokemon i have ( even my starter ) when i got beldum on emerald

  • @medots6194
    @medots6194 Před 6 lety +60

    **How good was Swampert actually**
    Come on now!

  • @sperrythegod5777
    @sperrythegod5777 Před 6 lety +120

    How good was Salamence actually.

    • @Phoenix_Destiny_Kai
      @Phoenix_Destiny_Kai Před 6 lety +3

      Sperry the god We already know. Everyone knows as a matter of fact; it was one of the best pseudo legendaries out there and still is!

    • @rider4523
      @rider4523 Před 6 lety

      Well Salamence is my favorite pokemon, but I´m not naive enough to say "best". I´d say it lines up with the non-legendary, but legends on their own 3 dragons: Dragonite, Salamence, Garchomp. Well Rayquaza was the first legendary dragon I think. D/P/P Dialga Palkia and Giratina as dragon Trio was cool back then, but after gen4 they just threw dragon types out like for free: Haxorus, Hydreigon, Kyurem, Reshiram, Zekrom. ANOTHER Dragon Trio, the 3rd Fire Fighting Starter in a row... and definetly the least exiting one of them imo. Yeah Salamence is freakin awesome. Awesome stat spread. Movepool is great (well exept for the fact, that there is no physical high base power dragon move). All Abilities are amazing: Intimidate, Moxie and Aerilate. Imagine if it had something as well to counter it´s massive ice weakness like some other Dragon Flying types it´d be insanly broken.

    • @sperrythegod5777
      @sperrythegod5777 Před 6 lety +1

      rs35505 good to see someone who likes Salamence as much as, I do.

  • @shiawase8694
    @shiawase8694 Před 2 lety +9

    just wanna say mega metagross is perfectly fit for the z move corkscrew crash, metagross literally looks like a drill in mega form

  • @tamsuskaralius835
    @tamsuskaralius835 Před 6 lety +280

    How good was Sceptile?

  • @SpearMKW
    @SpearMKW Před 6 lety +82

    *How GOOD was Leafeon **_ACTUALLY?_*

    • @Sir-vm1bl
      @Sir-vm1bl Před 6 lety +4

      Bad

    • @MonoManaR
      @MonoManaR Před 6 lety

      i like it but we still have to get through gen 1 pokemon

    • @corywynne2865
      @corywynne2865 Před 6 lety

      MonoSmash this vid features a gen 3 though

  • @TheDjpwn3
    @TheDjpwn3 Před 6 lety +39

    How good were Misdreavus and Mismagius actually?

  • @endiedementor581
    @endiedementor581 Před 2 lety +5

    5:50 rotom is its biggest counter? I just saw it take 50% of meteor mash😂

  • @SSJ2Pikachu
    @SSJ2Pikachu Před 3 lety +14

    I hate that Scizor completely outshines Metagross now when it comes to the base forms.
    Shout out to the steel and explosion nerfs, lack of SD and lack of an offensive ability.
    Don't get me wrong Scizor is pretty cool but Scizor still has 100 base stats less and is of course no pseudo.
    Jesus Christ...

    • @owo4288
      @owo4288 Před 3 lety +3

      One word: Technician

    • @SSJ2Pikachu
      @SSJ2Pikachu Před 3 lety +3

      @@owo4288 Really? Read my comment again...

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 Před 2 lety

      Well not every Psudeo-Legendary Pokemons; or Legendary & Mystical Pokemons, have to be an godlike Pokemon. And no. I don't want to hear about Arceus.

  • @galbavly219
    @galbavly219 Před 6 lety +212

    How GOOD was blaziken actually?
    other rs starters too

    • @TheUKNutter
      @TheUKNutter Před 6 lety +3

      gal.bav222 czcams.com/video/nmhT4sgD41o/video.html

    • @sypsenelle100
      @sypsenelle100 Před 6 lety

      How GOOD was Gallade ACTUALLY?

    • @galbavly219
      @galbavly219 Před 6 lety

      TheUKNutter other starters too but thanks for the video.

    • @TheUKNutter
      @TheUKNutter Před 6 lety

      gal.bav222 I couldn’t find any videos of the other starters

    • @TheUKNutter
      @TheUKNutter Před 6 lety +1

      Flame Guy Did you not even read the above comment? That there is the link to the Blaziken video

  • @kristopheraguero1500
    @kristopheraguero1500 Před 6 lety +7

    Oh boi, another video, another chance to Write the same request...
    How GOOD was Foretress ACTUALLY?
    Let the spikes be free!

  • @pickles4128
    @pickles4128 Před 6 lety +37

    How Good was Milotic ACTUALLY? We've already done the other water serpent thingy!

  • @edwardrobinson919
    @edwardrobinson919 Před 6 lety

    Amazing video. Thanks this helpful. I'm trying to complete orre colliseum in xd.

  • @FirstLastname604
    @FirstLastname604 Před 6 lety +38

    Now it's time for Salamence, the other gen 3 pseudo with an uber mega

  • @samza9233
    @samza9233 Před 6 lety +114

    How GOOD was Electabuzz and Electivire ACTUALLY?

    • @jasonfondeur376
      @jasonfondeur376 Před 6 lety +2

      Rarely used

    • @samza9233
      @samza9233 Před 6 lety +2

      not in gen 4 :)
      then team preview came out

    • @felickscarljohnson4572
      @felickscarljohnson4572 Před 6 lety

      Yeeeeees

    • @quintonblackburn3916
      @quintonblackburn3916 Před 6 lety +1

      E-vire in Gen 4 was the most overhyped thing in existence. it had the coverage... but it lacked the speed, the bulk, or the power to make that coverage work. All its moves were just too weak, and it was too slow to sweep without a speed boost, and by the time it got actual strong STAB in gen 5, power creep and speed creep cemented its fate in the lower tiers.

  • @Acnologia
    @Acnologia Před 3 lety +57

    That mega evolution.. new heights of sillyness

  • @ShinyShiranai
    @ShinyShiranai Před 6 lety +1

    Wow! I am honored to be in one of your videos! 8:47. I love the work you do; it's fascinating to see different Pokemon and their effect on the metagame.
    How good was SLOWKING actually?

  • @rosse_133
    @rosse_133 Před 6 lety +23

    How good was Blaziken ACTUALLY? or How good was Swampert ACTUALLY? Please ;-;

    • @RockruffRuinsGames
      @RockruffRuinsGames Před 6 lety

      Eevee Trickster if you wanna see Blaziken I have a suggestion for you. My friend Jirachi A made a similar video to what FSG does. Just look up
      “Exploring Ubers Blaziken”

    • @TheUKNutter
      @TheUKNutter Před 6 lety

      RapidRockruff czcams.com/video/nmhT4sgD41o/video.html - So people don’t have to bother searching.

    • @RockruffRuinsGames
      @RockruffRuinsGames Před 6 lety

      TheUKNutter thx, I’m on iPhoen

  • @Benjieb15
    @Benjieb15 Před 6 lety +41

    You keep showing him in videos but haven't made a video about him yet. How GOOD was Tentacruel ACTUALLY?

  • @Equivalate
    @Equivalate Před 2 lety +1

    Colosseum helped make Metagross a personal favorite of mine, even to this day. Went out of my way to find one when Crown Tundra came out before doing the story lol

  • @word2grandma392
    @word2grandma392 Před 6 lety

    Thank You . I Know This Video took a Lot Of Work .. I Appreciate It.

  • @theprofessorpickler
    @theprofessorpickler Před 6 lety +12

    How good was Flygon ACTUALLY?

  • @nathanf1149
    @nathanf1149 Před 6 lety +19

    How GOOD Was Blaziken ACTUALLY? C'mon everyone!

  • @Dullahan2
    @Dullahan2 Před 6 lety +16

    Honestly this is the start of a team I've wanted to make for a while. All fast or slow and bulky attackers. No need to overthink the metagame, just punch through anything and everything.

    • @taylon5200
      @taylon5200 Před 5 lety

      That's what I'm working on

    • @ivanzegarra9765
      @ivanzegarra9765 Před 3 lety

      Same here, try a Blaziken-M, Gardevoir, Excadrill core, it's working for me

  • @jaidencarvalho1761
    @jaidencarvalho1761 Před 6 lety +18

    How Good was Persian ACTUALLY?

  • @rohitbhavsar1464
    @rohitbhavsar1464 Před 6 lety +29

    Salamence pls

  • @RKanth54
    @RKanth54 Před 6 lety +39

    How good was flygon actually?? It got a buff in later gens so i wanna see how good it became, but R.I.P. Mega Flygon😭

  • @Spectral_Squad
    @Spectral_Squad Před rokem +1

    I dont think the agility weakness policy set was mentioned but overall a great video!

  • @belafeldbusch3397
    @belafeldbusch3397 Před 4 lety +6

    I remember how Stevens Metagross completely obliterated half of my team, starting with my starter Pokémon. Since then I always have a Metagross in my team if possible

  • @omidjavan356
    @omidjavan356 Před 6 lety +5

    I have been waiting for this for so long and I was not disappointed
    My favorite Pokemon
    And this is the day before my birthday
    This is a blessed time

  • @beebobber546
    @beebobber546 Před 6 lety +8

    Alright time for a curve ball boys
    How GOOD was Ledian ACTUALLY??!?

  • @steeltalons2025
    @steeltalons2025 Před 6 lety

    You make great Pokemon videos!

  • @FrostGlader
    @FrostGlader Před 2 lety +1

    Recently hatched a bunch of Beldum so I could get a Adamant one in Heartgold. I only wanted the nature, but I checked IV’s anyway.
    Perfect Attack IV. Just randomly. Don’t even know what’s up with that it just had it.
    Also later that night found a Shiny Donphan.