How GOOD was EVERY Starter ACTUALLY? - Starter Pokemon Tier List - Singles

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  • We ranked EVERY Starter's final evolution based on the tiers they have been over the past 9 generations!
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:56 - F Tier
    2:04 - E Tier
    6:16 - D Tier
    9:52 - C Tier
    17:33 - B Tier
    24:42 - A Tier
    31:02 - S Tier
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  • @TheNuts1225
    @TheNuts1225 Před 5 měsíci +4446

    As a meganium fan, I can honestly tell you I saw that placement from a mile away. Meganium will get its day sooner or later.

    • @MrDeflador
      @MrDeflador Před 5 měsíci +119

      Call it Mr. Stake and it cant be killed in a nuzlock

    • @isaacthered
      @isaacthered Před 5 měsíci +142

      Chikorita is pretty good in Mystery Dungeon at least.

    • @vaporterra
      @vaporterra Před 5 měsíci +99

      This won’t stop us from using Meganium in game while building a strong team to support

    • @CursedGaming31
      @CursedGaming31 Před 5 měsíci +107

      It got Knock off, Trailblaze, Solar Blade, Zen Headbutt, Body Press, Grassy Glide, Encore and Endeavor in the DLC now. Won't mend it's stats but movepool-Wise it's much, much better now.
      It has Swords Dance already, maybe it's not as garbage in lower tiers now.

    • @nolanevans7603
      @nolanevans7603 Před 5 měsíci +38

      In the fanfare Radical Red its great, with an ability giving priority to healing moves like giga Drain and the Fairy typing

  • @matthewesposito6973
    @matthewesposito6973 Před 5 měsíci +2642

    If this was on doubles, incineroar would need its own tier

  • @dork4202
    @dork4202 Před 5 měsíci +1442

    My personal buff for meganium would be to change it to a fire fighting type, give it the speed boost ability, and change its name to Blaziken

    • @zkdelta8014
      @zkdelta8014 Před 4 měsíci +133

      Cool, now you got a Blaziken with Meganium's move pool.

    • @mgeezylaslo7054
      @mgeezylaslo7054 Před 4 měsíci +38

      no just switch its special defense stat with its HP and give meganium spore, sleep powder or thunder wave

    • @dork4202
      @dork4202 Před 4 měsíci

      "Cool, now you got a blaziken with meganium's movepool"-🤓@@zkdelta8014

    • @saikatkar4452
      @saikatkar4452 Před 3 měsíci +12

      After years of ridicule, Meganium just needs a broken Hidden Ability or Signature move that turns things around for it. There's still a lot of broken Pokemon after 9 generations. I wouldn't mind them buffing Meganium to an extreme extent. Mons like Pidgeot and Meganium look so cool but are so insanely average that it's almost disheartening.

    • @Quentinthemudkip
      @Quentinthemudkip Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@saikatkar4452I feel you, I’m a typhlosion fan😅

  • @bluebaron6811
    @bluebaron6811 Před 5 měsíci +2733

    Guys, Incineroar gained Helping Hand in Gen 9.
    Doubles is just as dead as Singles.

    • @sephiross6438
      @sephiross6438 Před 5 měsíci +148

      Oh no..

    • @General_C
      @General_C Před 5 měsíci +269

      ALOLA PRIDE BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

    • @ddraven3180
      @ddraven3180 Před 5 měsíci +319

      Hahaha yes, anything to make people rage even further. Heel cat gonna drink them tears and keep on trucking in VGC

    • @Kuesoth
      @Kuesoth Před 5 měsíci +28

      HELL YEAH!!!

    • @DoinkDeetus
      @DoinkDeetus Před 5 měsíci +18

      LMAO

  • @amateraceon5202
    @amateraceon5202 Před 5 měsíci +1168

    Typhlosion is an incredible cleaner who gets to spam Eruption and even got a new Hisuian form
    Feraligatr presses Swords Dance once and destroys everything with Sheer Force Liquidation, second only to Crawdaunt as a physical Water destroyer
    And Meganium… was on the box art of New Pokémon Snap

    • @bomoose
      @bomoose Před 5 měsíci +49

      game freak hate meganium, he's also the best starter in hgss nuzlockes

    • @ravinercf
      @ravinercf Před 5 měsíci +60

      ​@@bomoose tô make the game harder right? I love the guy but it's matchs up into the major fights is by far the worst match up spread a starter has had in any main line pokemon game. Grass is so bad in gen 2 it is just sad

    • @potatoman2580
      @potatoman2580 Před 5 měsíci +65

      ​@bomoose most incorrect thing ever stated, meganuim is garbage every time it appears in the series

    • @DiabloTommaso
      @DiabloTommaso Před 5 měsíci +3

      It has dat! Been in a cover is Nice 😂

    • @hanscaniagochan8448
      @hanscaniagochan8448 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@bomoosethe only thing it has going is being good at post game IN pokemon Mystery dungeon game so there's that

  • @jacksonparker6983
    @jacksonparker6983 Před 5 měsíci +873

    Let the record show that Skeledirge is currently in OU again!

    • @banriswirl6414
      @banriswirl6414 Před 5 měsíci +103

      Skeledirge is easily A tier in a future version of this video and likely S tier.

    • @tyim5593
      @tyim5593 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Skeledirge is definetely one of the most interesting starters, because it was a top 10 ubers pokemon while sitting in a UU tier​@@banriswirl6414

    • @tytar2132
      @tytar2132 Před 5 měsíci +50

      @@banriswirl6414bro top 10 Ubers

    • @mimmikyute
      @mimmikyute Před 5 měsíci +24

      I didn’t know he was that good until this video! I knew it was in Ubers but damn! I don’t even have a switch to play gen 9 on and Dirge is becoming one of my favourite starters; killer design both looks and mechanics!

    • @jacksonparker6983
      @jacksonparker6983 Před 5 měsíci +12

      @@mimmikyute dirge also just got some great fairy coverage and scorching sands with the new dlc!

  • @donkassadin2014
    @donkassadin2014 Před 5 měsíci +1242

    Never forget the leader of an entire archetype of starters. Blaziken we salute you.

    • @iss2075
      @iss2075 Před 5 měsíci +116

      Infernape (and then Speed Boost) was basically Game Freak going "Man, we should have given Blaziken a higher speed". I still don't know what they were thinking with Emboar. Everybody was so shocked when we found out about it.

    • @h0m3st4r
      @h0m3st4r Před 5 měsíci +4

      Uber tier starters?

    • @mimmikyute
      @mimmikyute Před 5 měsíci +52

      It was the first fire/fighting 😂

    • @cristhianmlr
      @cristhianmlr Před 5 měsíci +7

      I don't. So many people thought it was an insta win PKMN they didn't knew how to use it properly and barely did any damage despite being an "Uber" threat.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise Před 5 měsíci +22

      ​@@iss2075The fire-fighting starters were almost certainly about the first gyms always being Rock type. Charmander was given metal claw in FR/LG for a similar reason.
      And for Gen V specifically, I would wager a lot of money that the team designing the pokemon were assuming the rock gym when Emboar was designed.

  • @vicctretamaj7289
    @vicctretamaj7289 Před 5 měsíci +656

    I know Incineroar ain’t gonna be at the top since this is singles focused, but I expect a full video to go into is VGC dominance one day🔥

    • @mimmikyute
      @mimmikyute Před 5 měsíci +56

      I’ve been mostly following doubles and vgc lately so even though I was expecting Roar’s placement here it still somehow surprised me :P

    • @angle2703
      @angle2703 Před 5 měsíci +113

      Incineroar in singles: Normal Pokémon in NU, even moved up to PU.
      Incineroar in doubles: Has won every format they’ve been allowed in, insane usage numbers. Arguably the best VGC Pokémon ever. Incineroar is like the US military of doubles

    • @sebarsht12
      @sebarsht12 Před 5 měsíci +20

      I predict a VGC version of this video may have for S-rank
      Incinaroar; Rilaboom and Charizard

    • @vicctretamaj7289
      @vicctretamaj7289 Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@sebarsht12 Zard is prob A tier

    • @TalkingVidya
      @TalkingVidya Před 5 měsíci +16

      @@angle2703 Like, he was number 1 in usage in a generation with legal Zacian!

  • @RealBeastBoy007
    @RealBeastBoy007 Před 5 měsíci +666

    Alright guys lets remember, +1 on 103 base special attack and 122 speed is shockingly broken with insane STAB types and life orb

    • @SJtheMFZB
      @SJtheMFZB Před 5 měsíci +41

      And Hisui-Eye gets the upperhand in the lower tiers against Krook, Wo-Chien, and, uh, Tyranitar, which even gets Knock Off now. 😅 (If you think I'm fucking about on this one, just look at the OU list. Great Tusk, IVal, Ting-Lu and friends with zero Pursuit. He's become shockingly adept at inviting the opponent to win, so now he's a feather in the cap of E-tiers among E-tiers. :/)

    • @RealBeastBoy007
      @RealBeastBoy007 Před 5 měsíci +58

      @@SJtheMFZB Gen 9 competitive is interesting but in all the wrong ways

    • @1peidu
      @1peidu Před 5 měsíci +12

      and it's still markedly worse than Agren since +1 103 with a life orb is barely stronger than specs 153

    • @insertnamehere658
      @insertnamehere658 Před 5 měsíci +4

      ​@@1peidu if it's strong enough to stay in teal mask ou, it's still doing something right.

    • @1peidu
      @1peidu Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@insertnamehere658 Agren would end up banned instead of just staying in OU mate, since iirc reg gren is mostly used as a cleaner on rain. Agren can use rain cleaner sets but in Gen 9 if it wanted to it could SD Tera electric and smoke its usual checks. People forget this is as strong as Lando T. Reg gren can't pull that off even with battle bond.

  • @rubiconprime1429
    @rubiconprime1429 Před 5 měsíci +285

    Gotta love how from Gen 4 to 5 Blaziken when from worse infernape to better infernape

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 Před 5 měsíci +28

      I mean that was just due to speed boost if it didn't get that ability the powercreep would have dropped it to mid tier RU

    • @rubiconprime1429
      @rubiconprime1429 Před 5 měsíci +13

      @@laxusstrauss5945 yep, but the point still stands

    • @Alastordadeer
      @Alastordadeer Před 5 měsíci

      @@rubiconprime1429yeah until it’s mega came in

    • @NightmareZerogbs
      @NightmareZerogbs Před 4 měsíci +2

      Better STARTER, period xD

    • @Tungdil_01
      @Tungdil_01 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@NightmareZerogbs until Cinderace appears :(

  • @GoldStorm07
    @GoldStorm07 Před 5 měsíci +307

    The other week I was imagining if Hyper Beam retained its Gen 1 mechanics and as a result, the elemental variants exclusive to the starters would have been scary competitive options. There's a hint of that alternate timeline in Eruption Typhlosion.

    • @TheWizardMus
      @TheWizardMus Před 5 měsíci +53

      Picturing Sub Sunny Day Peteya Berry Blast Burn Charizard being able to keep pushing the button after OHKOing Swampert

    • @Eroil
      @Eroil Před 5 měsíci +9

      Bkc (writer for this channel) actually made a video about it if you're interested

    • @theserpent8667
      @theserpent8667 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@TheWizardMusNow that's a cool scenario. Why do I imagine Alain doing this?

    • @TheWizardMus
      @TheWizardMus Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@theserpent8667 it happened it Jimothy Cool's Gen 3 OU ADV Revival tournament and it was so cool

    • @Skullhawk13
      @Skullhawk13 Před 5 měsíci +4

      It really should work that way. Otherwise why use it at all

  • @aetius254
    @aetius254 Před 5 měsíci +91

    I'm just glad that my boy Sceptile got to C tier, and I'm pretty sure everybody saw Meganium's placement coming a mile away

    • @jjgriffiniv1307
      @jjgriffiniv1307 Před 5 měsíci +2

      My boy Sceptile deserves at least B, boy is a dragon type too she. In mega form!

    • @InsaneGarrison25
      @InsaneGarrison25 Před 5 měsíci

      @@jjgriffiniv1307 The problem is that it’s a mega. Mega Sceptile would be incredible if it could use held items and learn Draco Meteor but it unfortunately can’t

    • @Charleyyy678
      @Charleyyy678 Před 4 měsíci

      I don’t really care that much about Sceptile, but I do like Meganium

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 Před 5 měsíci +171

    So glad my boy Serperior is in A tier. Spamming contrary leaf storm is so much fun

    • @Charleyyy678
      @Charleyyy678 Před 5 měsíci +18

      Agreed

    • @joonas394
      @joonas394 Před 5 měsíci +19

      After whole Gen 8 absence, Serperior returned stronger than ever with Stellar Contrary Tera Blast

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 5 měsíci +15

      Really wish he had Draco Meteor too as a bona-fide special Move Tutor. He does look a _bit_ like a Dragon, like a Grassy Dragonair.

    • @Alastordadeer
      @Alastordadeer Před 5 měsíci +4

      It’s also a good sub leech seed user

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 Před 5 měsíci +3

      We do not refer to Pokemon as a boy or a girl.

  • @Malisteen
    @Malisteen Před 5 měsíci +44

    seeing clips from various gens back to back really highlights how much better the sprites of g4 and g5 were than the 3d stuff we've been stuck with ever since.

  • @GWFanSoftcoreBrony
    @GWFanSoftcoreBrony Před 5 měsíci +135

    Poor Meganium. It looks like they at least gave it Body Press as something interesting but as far as I can tell so far, the only way it can raise its defense is with Curse or an uncommon random boost from Ancient Power.

    • @Cobalt957
      @Cobalt957 Před 5 měsíci +15

      It also has knock off so it can also force progress which is a pretty nice thing to have

    • @benjaminh.5690
      @benjaminh.5690 Před 5 měsíci +26

      Encore is another funny move it got. That plus Tera Fighting Body Press make it a (really bad) check to Kingambit. I wish my baby had gotten a new HA as well but it didn’t.

    • @Origin-vb4iu
      @Origin-vb4iu Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@Cobalt957 nice thing to have if u live a hit , yeah not happening with that miserable speed stat and grass typing..

    • @maxf_03
      @maxf_03 Před 5 měsíci

      Eviolite Bayleef is surprisingly tanky. With the 50% boost it has 120 base in both defences and it has an okay base 60hp. It can stall pretty well with leech seed, protect and synthesis. Plus you can catch alot of super effective hits off guard now with tera rock.

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 5 měsíci

      Fella, some Pokémon are just never meant for the Fight. Leave it be and let it continue with World Pollination.

  • @paopaothesiopao995
    @paopaothesiopao995 Před 5 měsíci +69

    Mudkip was the Pokemon I picked in the my first Pokemon game (Ruby Version). I’m glad to see Swampert placed high on the list. I’ve always loved how reliable it is.

    • @dramaticScar
      @dramaticScar Před 5 měsíci +5

      Swear… I tested this… but it’s the only Hoenn Starter to make gen 3 battle frontier a bit easier

    • @RandomHans
      @RandomHans Před 5 měsíci +4

      ​@@dramaticScar one weakness, high bulk, amazing offensive typings go brrrrr

  • @mvjbass9561
    @mvjbass9561 Před 5 měsíci +96

    I know it's not official, but I feel like Mega-Blastoise being banned in Gen 9 NatDex should be mentioned. It's a shame that it gained Shell Smash as it lost its Mega.

    • @aquinoima
      @aquinoima Před 5 měsíci +10

      Free my boy Blastoise

    • @Forged4War206
      @Forged4War206 Před 5 měsíci +3

      It's not just an unofficial tier, it's a make believe meta that only can exist on simulations. Smogon OU singles and even all of the lower unofficial tiers like ZU or UUbers can be replicated in the actual games themselves, you can't do that at all with NatDex, because certain moves no longer exist, Pokemon are missing, AND multiple different generational mechanics are allowed. It's about as real as Almost Any Ability, STABmons, or any of the other OMs that exist on Smogon, which is why it's not worth mentioning when talking strictly official formats.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 Před 5 měsíci +1

      We don't use a hyphen between the word mega and the Pokemon's name.

    • @TheForgidbearbackers
      @TheForgidbearbackers Před 3 měsíci +3

      good news, he's coming back officially.

    • @c-8164
      @c-8164 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Forged4War206 not really , its basically a meta where all pokemon are allowed including z moves and Megas ofcourse theres a banned list and although tera is an awful mechanic that disrupted the natdex format gen 8 national dex is a competitive tear at the high ladder. If Blastoise can be banned in a meta like that it means that if megas come back once it shell smashes it becomes monster

  • @spamgoose6447
    @spamgoose6447 Před 5 měsíci +59

    Quaquaval having triple axel now will give it a shot at OU again imo. Triple Axel destroys its previous counters

    • @1peidu
      @1peidu Před 5 měsíci +4

      That axel doing a fat 13% to pex with 3 hits and a fat 5% to dozo with 3 crit hits

    • @spamgoose6447
      @spamgoose6447 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@1peidu he said dragonite and dragapult were counters, reason why I said it lol

    • @sonic5993
      @sonic5993 Před 5 měsíci +13

      @@spamgoose6447 Meowscarda gets it too and it can get STAB off of it unlike Quav, so probably not.

    • @MisterSleep1123
      @MisterSleep1123 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@sonic5993Ydk it can tera, right? But then again, why waste a tera to be an ice type

    • @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283
      @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 Před 5 měsíci +3

      ​@@MisterSleep1123Regiekeki:

  • @Elfking94
    @Elfking94 Před 5 měsíci +51

    Ill never forget somehow being swept by an evasive/sleep meganium in the gen 3 battle tower. Boy what an introduction to gimick strategies lol

    • @shawnli4746
      @shawnli4746 Před 5 měsíci +26

      That's why it's a battle tower. You're allowed to use degenerate stuff that smogon ban ages ago.
      But then again, you're also up against a CPU that knows which move you click, and luck is always on their side.

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis Před 5 měsíci +3

      I don't remember ever facing that, but my fire punch alakazam may have just crushed it every time. I'm not really sure.

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 Před 5 měsíci +1

      This is why u use Mono dragon Latios with sub calm and recover

    • @shawnli4746
      @shawnli4746 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@bryanc1772 to quote a certain other video: none of that matters when you can't *hit* them

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 Před 5 měsíci

      @@shawnli4746 +6 252 SpA Latios Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Meganium: 377-444 (103.5 - 121.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
      It only needs to hit once which will come . It’s only a matter of time and yea it’s not like meganium can break Latios subs

  • @jo_jo_jo
    @jo_jo_jo Před 5 měsíci +23

    Honest to God, I just saw that Meganium didn't get any significant boost in Indigo disk and I am SO mad about it. Like, really? How is it possible that Gamefreak keeps on mistreating it? Gosh, GF better put their sh¨t together.

    • @brain_tonic
      @brain_tonic Před 5 měsíci +9

      But wait! It got…. Uh… hmmm… knockoff, surely that’s a rare move that not over a hundred mons better than meganium learn. (Clueless)
      Oh oh oh ! I got you! It got body press! Now it can deal with those pesky steel types! Please ignore the fact that it already knows earthquake and that it’s best defense boosting move is… curse…

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Give it a Fire/Grass regional form and then we can talk

  • @DUDEBRUHMICE
    @DUDEBRUHMICE Před 2 měsíci +14

    If this was doubles then incineroar would’ve been S tier

  • @ginwilliam7763
    @ginwilliam7763 Před 5 měsíci +53

    I feel like Dirge is at least A rank. Being viable in Ubers should surely be worth some brownie points.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 Před 3 měsíci +5

      It's held back by the fact it's only been around for 1 generation.

  • @weesticles650
    @weesticles650 Před 5 měsíci +57

    Keep in mind both Meowscarada and Quaquaval got Triple Axel this dlc so they're gonna be even better than at the time this tier list was made.

    • @cheyanne2001
      @cheyanne2001 Před 5 měsíci +16

      They *both* got Triple Axel??? What was Game Freak cooking lol

    • @weesticles650
      @weesticles650 Před 5 měsíci +20

      @@cheyanne2001 if you think that's bad think of VGC. Incineroar just got Helping Hand 😂. I don't know why the thought Meowscarada, Quaquaval or most of all Incineroar needed buffs.

    • @cheyanne2001
      @cheyanne2001 Před 5 měsíci +11

      @@weesticles650 they did *what* to Incin

    • @weesticles650
      @weesticles650 Před 5 měsíci +18

      @@cheyanne2001 it got Helping Hand. Plus it got the new move Temper Flare so if it hits into Protect it'll have a 150 BP move the next turn.

    • @cheyanne2001
      @cheyanne2001 Před 5 měsíci +12

      @@weesticles650 OH WHY. It's not like Incin was a top VGC Mon already, yup. It needed more buffs apparently 😭

  • @typhlosion7872
    @typhlosion7872 Před 5 měsíci +164

    Primarina is so good in UU for gens 7 and 8 and I hope that continues. Highest special attack AND highest special defense of all starters not counting Eeveelutions

    • @Goldenblade14
      @Goldenblade14 Před 5 měsíci +11

      It kind of astounds me how Prima isn't at least BL, but then again, I look to the Rampardos theorem.

    • @teddyhaines6613
      @teddyhaines6613 Před 5 měsíci +28

      @@Goldenblade14 Rampardos theorem is overstating it considering Primarina has good special bulk and a good defensive typing. Think it's just the speed holding it back.

    • @YoungusChungus
      @YoungusChungus Před 5 měsíci

      Well Rampardos Theorem says that "power isn't everything," and it doesn't necessarily specify the issue as poor bulk or typing. Primarina having the Highest starter Special Attack and being considered a C Tier fits the mold imo.@@teddyhaines6613

    • @Rawla2
      @Rawla2 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Yea I was hoping Primarina would get maybe quiver dance and or boomburst this gen. But alas my girl is just gonna have to wait for her time

    • @TrixterTheFemboy
      @TrixterTheFemboy Před 5 měsíci +9

      @@Rawla2 Boomburst I would love, but dear gods if this thing gets Quiver Dance it's skyrocketing right up to OU and never coming back down

  • @reycoswanson
    @reycoswanson Před 5 měsíci +43

    Actually im pretty sure the protean/libero change was due to Tera. Like you said Gren had it or 3 gens and they left it alone. Im sure there would have been bugs or terablast would be absurd on them, also if keckleon stays gone that would make sense as a reason. (Not that keckleon was used a lot lol)

    • @BrendonCap
      @BrendonCap Před 5 měsíci +2

      It definitely was because it was broken or that they thought it was distracting.
      Bugs would have been simple to fix, thats really not an issue. This is coming from a dev.

    • @Unknwnwrrior
      @Unknwnwrrior Před 5 měsíci +1

      I'm fairly confident because it was Cinderace wrecking stuff in Battle Stadium Singles (BSS). With Bounce, Bulk Up/HJK, Sucker Punch, Pyro Ball, and Gigantamax it could go for a Max Airstream then pick and choose its counters, deftly avoiding any priority with Protean that could dent it.

    • @aaajeear8654
      @aaajeear8654 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@BrendonCap Gamefreak having an easy time fixing bugs? ha, that's funny.

    • @dysr
      @dysr Před 5 měsíci +1

      That doesn't seem particularly likely, since Tera just disables those abilities, so they could've done the same thing with the previous version.

    • @BrendonCap
      @BrendonCap Před 5 měsíci

      @@aaajeear8654 All jokes aside, yes, gamefreak is quite adept at making games without bugs, if you dont count graphical errors. When was the last time we had a real significant bug related to the type chart or abilities? They are amazingly rare.

  • @nathanielkarasik2372
    @nathanielkarasik2372 Před 5 měsíci +62

    Seeing meganimun one of my favorite starters always so low always breaks my heart.

    • @majesticgothitelle1802
      @majesticgothitelle1802 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Only if meganium get a new ability like thick fat or technician

    • @Lagi42800
      @Lagi42800 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Or megic bounce, or even Triage

    • @nathanielkarasik2372
      @nathanielkarasik2372 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@majesticgothitelle1802 that would be such a cool hidden ability. Or just a boost in stats

    • @bonniefazbear1987
      @bonniefazbear1987 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Just remember that this is only with competitive Pokémon, comp stuff isn't all there is

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 Před 5 měsíci

      It even ties with Ash’s Bulbasaur in a League battle lol

  • @ItsJustKaya
    @ItsJustKaya Před 5 měsíci +28

    Chesnaught is my favourite pokemon to find early one in any Rom.
    Its essentially Swampert but double weak to Flying. Which is generally rare to see in competitive and on difficult game.

    • @maniakb416
      @maniakb416 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Flying is absolutely not uncommon to see in competitive.

  • @AlectricEel
    @AlectricEel Před 5 měsíci +115

    Contrary Serperior with leaf storm and choice specs plus maxed out speed is way too deadly.

    • @NasJuiced
      @NasJuiced Před 5 měsíci +17

      i think specs serperior is one of the worse serp sets tbh. sub leech glare leaf storm (you could swap a move for coverage such as hidden power/tera blast). the ability to spread paralysis as a mon that fast + being able to take advantage of paralysis to setup is crazy good. serp isn’t as scary if it’s just clicking leaf storm and, for example, if someone switches in a heatran your stuck with a specs leaf storm instead of being able to snipe it with coverage like hidden power/ tera blast ground or, even better, paralyze it.

    • @mangosteak
      @mangosteak Před 5 měsíci +7

      specs serp is Bad
      Grass is a trash offensive typing.
      Serp loves spamming its aupport moves like glare, leechseed and defog
      Or screens

    • @AlectricEel
      @AlectricEel Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@NasJuiced You make a very good point however Serp's many weaknesses may mean to use at least 2 moves it needs a sash. Sashing it ain't a bad move or anything but it takes away the use of another item. Honestly your opinion is clever and probably better than how I like to use Serp however I like brute force!

    • @AlectricEel
      @AlectricEel Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@mangosteak Just because a type is trash offensively, doesn't mean a Pokemon that has that type is. And Grass is probably worse defensively due to its many weaknesses! Its honestly up to you how to play with it and I respect your opinion as that is how Serp is usually played! I just like trying to take mons out quickly before they can set up entry hazards and status conditions.

    • @devilman4723
      @devilman4723 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@AlectricEelthe idea is more than grass isn't great offensively, so you don't want to lock yourself into it. Using Leaf Storm to get the +2 and using that to break your normal switchins with something like Tera Blast Fire is a lot more effective than being forced out yourself. Alternatively, grabbing a substitute can let you spam Leaf Storm forever and eventually break everything that used to wall you

  • @TheOnlyGBeast
    @TheOnlyGBeast Před 5 měsíci +30

    I think skeledirge is back in OU now by usage, it's still quite great

  • @omniultimate
    @omniultimate Před 5 měsíci +21

    Blaziken has been my favorite pokemon since it's beginning
    to see it ascend so high competitively has always put a smile on my face
    if only it was also amazing in VGC

    • @Alastordadeer
      @Alastordadeer Před 5 měsíci

      I have the same with greninja. Even with battle bond no longer making it’s base stats mewtwo level. It’s still an insanely good mon, despite that it doesn’t have a niece in the among the highest offensive stat department. It’s still an all around S tier Pokemon.

    • @SarcasticBeingYes
      @SarcasticBeingYes Před 2 měsíci

      greninja trash lol@@Alastordadeer

    • @bijupak
      @bijupak Před měsícem

      @@SarcasticBeingYes Yea lol Greninja trash

  • @t.j.helming5534
    @t.j.helming5534 Před 5 měsíci +16

    I've been a HUGE Swampert fan for majority of its existence. Glad to see that the competitive scene loves it too!!

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Swampert had a very significant niche in previous gen as a specially defensive wall that could set p rocks, spread toxic/threaten what it walls, utilise flip turn for momentum, and just spam earthquake or scald, so it was actually quite decent quite recently (nothng game breaking but the niche it fitted was quite significant)

    • @t.j.helming5534
      @t.j.helming5534 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I still to this day, play ruby & Sapphire on my Gameboy SP
      Swampert is my undisputed favorite starter of all time!
      I'm soo dedicated to Swampert (even before the physical/special split) that I don't care using an over-leveled mixed attacking starter during playthroughs (hydro pump/surf; ice beam; earthquake; brick break).
      I even trade every Swampert I've ever played with to another game before restarting my gen 3 games!

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 Před 3 měsíci

      @@t.j.helming5534 Mixed Swampert was pretty much the standard in Gens 3 and 4. It usually packed Ice Beam and Earthquake for damage dealing moves while the other 2 slots were for utility (Roar for PHazing and either Stealth Rock or Water STAB for more coverage). Ice Beam despite running off its lower attacking stat was more effective than Ice Punch in Gen 4.

  • @lane5686
    @lane5686 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Blaziken who is the archetype of Fire & Fighting for 3 generations and gained speed boost: Bawk Bawk motherf*cker

  • @EmersonCRVG
    @EmersonCRVG Před 5 měsíci +19

    incineroar in singles, C tier, middle of the middle. In doubles, SSS+

  • @fooddaily3609
    @fooddaily3609 Před 5 měsíci +44

    I think the biggest reason they have changed Protean/Libero is the interaction with terastalization. However, I think this change will stay even in future gens.

    • @DampWetstew
      @DampWetstew Před 5 měsíci +8

      It'ld be nice if they gave Kelceon a variant of the original version. Being able to swap between types freely makes it really fun. With it's stats keep it from being overwhelming. (Very high sp.def, average hp, defense attack, and low speed)
      It also gets priority Dark/Ghost/Normal attacks, giving it a lot of fun immunity play.

    • @Pariah_ANT
      @Pariah_ANT Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah I thought the same thing when they nerfed it.

    • @what.are.you.doing.stepbro
      @what.are.you.doing.stepbro Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yea. If it remained the same in gen 9, Meow would totally outclass the other 2 especially now that it gets triple axel. Its faster than the other 2 or in fact any starter and it hits harder than greninja and also has a broken signature move

    • @RealBeastBoy007
      @RealBeastBoy007 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@what.are.you.doing.stepbroImagine they bring back Ash Greninja

  • @wanderlustwarrior
    @wanderlustwarrior Před 5 měsíci +8

    Saw Meganium coming a mile away. It basically exists to get dunked on. It's also the poster child of "overshadowed by its own middle stage."

  • @KiryuuYoshiya
    @KiryuuYoshiya Před 5 měsíci +27

    venusaur truly is the goat. so glad to see it this high on the list where it deserves to be 💕

    • @midniteryder_3-16
      @midniteryder_3-16 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Wish it was on the s tier, though…but whatever…

  • @gioanysgonzalez3396
    @gioanysgonzalez3396 Před 5 měsíci +43

    Charizard: Hey look at that guys ! I’m placed in PU as in “Perfectly Usable”
    Blastoise: Should we tell him?
    Venusaur: Nah let it sink in.

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 Před 5 měsíci +9

      I mean
      Blastoise probably should avoid casting stones, or really doing anything to draw attention to itself. Or its forehead

  • @nolanevans7603
    @nolanevans7603 Před 5 měsíci +84

    Imfernape needs a strong special Fighting Type move like Aura Sphere!

    • @fernandoguillen5996
      @fernandoguillen5996 Před 5 měsíci +14

      It's weird and fascinating how infernape can have a second chance if it obtains a bettee special movepool

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 Před 5 měsíci +48

      It already have it
      infernape just needs a better hidden ability or a boost to iron fist (which is super weak 20%) it should get the same boost as strong jaw
      The fact that it stayed OU/UU stable for 16 years with even blaze is impressive same goes with swampert in fact most of his sets are not used with iron fist

    • @qwilliams1539
      @qwilliams1539 Před 5 měsíci +50

      But it does have such a move...
      ...70% of the time.

    • @MMW1299
      @MMW1299 Před 5 měsíci +16

      It learns Aura Sphere btw

    • @jerrytaylor4036
      @jerrytaylor4036 Před 5 měsíci

      @@qwilliams1539call it what it is; focus miss

  • @MorrisPXG
    @MorrisPXG Před 5 měsíci +9

    Even Greninja Got Nerfed in Battle Bond and Protean,He’s still Grow Strong,Well done.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 Před 5 měsíci

      Shouldn't there be a space after every comma?

  • @mjodyh
    @mjodyh Před měsícem +2

    I was taken aback while watching the video when I noticed Incineroar in the C-Tier.
    I paused the video and checked the title to see "-Singles", then it all makes sense

  • @deanoor9391
    @deanoor9391 Před 5 měsíci +16

    Swampert is my favorite final evolution of the starters but infernape isn't that far away

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Man of culture

    • @sonicmaster206
      @sonicmaster206 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Same here

    • @yaya6195
      @yaya6195 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Same,their my favorite water and fire starters respectively
      (Meowscarada is my favorite grass)

    • @Brochacho73
      @Brochacho73 Před 4 měsíci

      @deanoor9391 the fact we have the same favorite mon and name is wild lol

  • @newdonkshitty
    @newdonkshitty Před 5 měsíci +6

    Calling Serperiors movepool "Devilish" was a good callback. For the unaware, Contrary used to be called "Devil's Advocate" prior to BW being released in English.

  • @megasean3000
    @megasean3000 Před 5 měsíci +102

    GameFreak: How do we buff Meganium?
    Sensible employee 1: Give it new moves?
    GameFreak: Nah.
    Sensible employee 2: Give it a new ability which compliments its wall status?
    GameFreak: Nah.
    Dumbass employee: Make it the mascot for the new Pokemon Snap game and call it a day?
    GameFreak: BRILLIANT!!!

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL Před 5 měsíci +8

      It did just got 3 new moves recently in S/V
      Knock Off, Body Press, and Encore
      It’s HA is still the infamous Leaf Guard, it lost Aromatherapy (deleted) with no Heal Bell to take it’s place, and still no Sleep Powder, Calm Mind, Earth Power, or the new Alluring Voice, not even Pollen Puff

    • @Catastrophe3x3
      @Catastrophe3x3 Před 5 měsíci +9

      Give it regenerator, synthesis, calm mind, earth power & sleep powder and it would probably be decent in RU.

    • @maverick12070
      @maverick12070 Před 2 měsíci

      I still want my Mega Meganium. Grass/Fairy, Pixilate, Hypervoice, 100 Base Speed. done

  • @thelegendsplays6266
    @thelegendsplays6266 Před 5 měsíci +45

    Blaziken has been my fave mon since I got introduced to Pokemon, which was with the release of Emerald. It does me so well to see my boy top the list of the tierlist because he was too broken to deal with for like 3 whole gens.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 Před 5 měsíci

      We do not refer to Pokemon as a boy or a girl.

    • @thelegendsplays6266
      @thelegendsplays6266 Před 5 měsíci +14

      @@Amelia4111 Since Blaziken has a gender ratio of 87.5% male and 12.5% female and I only ever got male Torchics, I am very confident to call him my boy and dont think you should critize this topic to even begin with

    • @darkenedpp
      @darkenedpp Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@Amelia4111 Why? There's clearly genders there.

    • @Aspencio
      @Aspencio Před 10 dny

      @@Amelia4111okay bro

  • @ekman2095
    @ekman2095 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I would LOVE seeing a similar video going over pseudo legendaries!

  • @Crusina
    @Crusina Před 5 měsíci +12

    Typhlosion is my favorite starter and one of my favorite pokemon if all time.
    Its both ferocious but also cuddly. Could you imagine being out in the wilds and juat cuddling with it late at night to go to sleep?

    • @bomoose
      @bomoose Před 5 měsíci +1

      and it burning you to death?

    • @mrtrollnator123
      @mrtrollnator123 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@bomooseit can take its flames off

  • @FilipDrlik
    @FilipDrlik Před 5 měsíci +26

    Great video, please do legendaries in the same video format

  • @krisiverse
    @krisiverse Před 5 měsíci +6

    Meganium is one of my absolute favorite Pokemon, but yeah, competitively it definitely deserves that placement in F tier. The placings of all these are solid and you've explained them very thoroughly, great video!

  • @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
    @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv Před 5 měsíci +5

    I wonder how much this list will change with their full return in Teal Mask/Indigo Disk SV DLC? Sadly it will be quite while since it usually takes several testing and actual tourneys to fully test out a complete list in regards to the full changes.

  • @dr.cogleIRL
    @dr.cogleIRL Před 4 měsíci +3

    God, Greninja, and Cinderace used to be absolutely terrifying back then, so I've heard. Having practically the same abilities that were broken. I think its good they nerfed their abilities because they were almost unstoppable.
    But the fact they almost destroyed competitive battles kinda makes me love them even more

  • @praise0908
    @praise0908 Před 5 měsíci

    Awesome video! I'm a shiny hunter, not a competitive player, but I love watching comp videos so I really like that you get so detailed on the history of all these mons. Even the bad ones!

  • @loupe500
    @loupe500 Před 5 měsíci +13

    Yeah, I always knew my boy would be in first, like he is supposed to be. But in all seriousness, I think Hisuian Sammurott, Skeliderge and Meowscarada will be seen in A tier next gen, specially the former 2, since I just can’t see Skeliderge losing it’s niche in ubers without a legendary unaware pokemon being released. Ubers is currently way too powerful and it’s in need of an unaware user, and he is just the best one.

    • @what.are.you.doing.stepbro
      @what.are.you.doing.stepbro Před 5 měsíci

      It'll lose tera next gen so it wont be nearly as viable as it is now. It has wayy too many common weaknesses for a slow pokemon to be good without tera next gen. Meowscarada got tripple axel and is now actually one of the most used mon on ou according to the usage chart finchinator tweeted

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 Před 5 měsíci

      We don't use the word its as a pronoun if there's an apostrophe in it.

    • @loupe500
      @loupe500 Před 5 měsíci

      @@what.are.you.doing.stepbro he is not good even with tera. He has just been power crept. But he is still decent, it’s slow but speed boost can fix this, and he will probably have the best history of any starter forever. I just can’t see any starter having 3 generations in ubers. He was even considered good in gen 5, that’s just how goated his run was.

  • @gavtro2
    @gavtro2 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Blaziken has always been my favorite starter, other than personal bias I'm happy to see there is a reason why I liked it so much.

  • @tenken73
    @tenken73 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Hey man, love you guys and your videos. I appreciate the passion. Happy holidays! (Also, Venosaur will always be #1*)
    Pokédex depending on

  • @alfredsupersauce
    @alfredsupersauce Před 5 měsíci +22

    Can’t wait to see meganium also come in last in the doubles version of this video. Incineroar being #1 is also inevitable.

  • @kanauso3706
    @kanauso3706 Před 5 měsíci +7

    False Swipe always posts BANGERS.

  • @nightsider2705
    @nightsider2705 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Honestly, I'd argue chesnaught deserves to be moved up a tier.
    It's been a solid uu mon for 2 of 3 gens its been in, while everything else in the same tier was ru or below

  • @iss2075
    @iss2075 Před 5 měsíci +30

    I think Meganium could be quite good with Regenerator (especially in metagames with really strong Ground-types, which is most of them lol). And it wouldn't need to use Assault Vest like Tangrowth. And it's faster and stronger than Amoongus.

    • @MMW1299
      @MMW1299 Před 5 měsíci +12

      I also think Swampert should get Slack Off, Recover or Regenerator.
      Would fit because it's based off a mud fish/amphibian

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Triage would be my pick.

    • @teddyhaines6613
      @teddyhaines6613 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Hell, give it Regenerator and Strength Sap. That would make it a tank physical sweepers actually fear facing instead of thinking it's setup fodder.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@teddyhaines6613 Imagine Triage Strength Sap, though. That could go pretty wild.

    • @pixelbro99
      @pixelbro99 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Floral healing would make a lot of sense considering it has a giant flower around its neck. Also, give my girl Meganium Sleep Powder and Stun Spore and maybe Pollen Puff.

  • @nikinovski
    @nikinovski Před 2 dny

    10:00 the way he introduces the beginning of C rank and above, and immediately hts you with the blastoise facing back pose. False Swipe Gaming you didn't need to go this hard 🔥🔥

  • @MusicComet
    @MusicComet Před 5 měsíci +2

    I like how you make a lot of pokemon sound strong despite their tiers like with decidueye and emboar. I'm not into competitive so I can't tell how true this is, it just sounds really nice :)

  • @Matpit18
    @Matpit18 Před 5 měsíci +35

    Great video, FSG!
    Very well made!
    Can’t wait for the Doubles Version of this video, though I think we all know who the best starter is there! 😂

    • @MorrisPXG
      @MorrisPXG Před 5 měsíci +2

      Incineroar:

    • @lorenzotosi7872
      @lorenzotosi7872 Před 5 měsíci

      Greninja also or venusaur rillaboom mega Charizard y serperior can be S tier maybe incineroar is S+

    • @pekorisa
      @pekorisa Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@lorenzotosi7872 Honestly they could be S and Incin could just jump straight into S++
      Gigachad buff cat is singlehandedly the best doubles Pkmn to have ever existed and the others will never compare

    • @lorenzotosi7872
      @lorenzotosi7872 Před 5 měsíci

      ever no, consider landorus-t, meta since its introduction, gastrodon, groudon, and smeargle ludicolo metagrross the early days, at the end the title of best goes to none other than king kyogre itself@@pekorisa

    • @jeremiahgreen5632
      @jeremiahgreen5632 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@lorenzotosi7872Yeah, but Incineroar is way more consistent. Kyogre can be easily shut down by Groudon with Solar Beam.

  • @IfYouNeedAnEdge
    @IfYouNeedAnEdge Před 5 měsíci +5

    To Meganium fans I would encourage a HGSS run where you play your friends after each gym! The Chikorita line is fantastic if you approach it competitively with mons available at that time

  • @Professor_Wisteria_
    @Professor_Wisteria_ Před 5 měsíci +4

    Turtwig was my first ever starter, and i can say confidently that the phrase "Shell Smash Torterra" gives me goosebumps. he might not be one of the most ridiculous mons out there but good gods above is he a tanky mf. add shell smash to that and you have a cannonball of a pokemon

  • @PWNAGE703
    @PWNAGE703 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Bro the fact that dlc is $35 is insane

  • @elrhunadan
    @elrhunadan Před 5 měsíci +6

    Meganium wouldn't be so lonely if you had counted Pikachu

    • @tonyvazquez7612
      @tonyvazquez7612 Před 5 měsíci +2

      At least the lets go starters have coverage

  • @falsebeliever8079
    @falsebeliever8079 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Meganium should get a signature move that sets up sun and grassy terrain simultaneously

  • @boop53
    @boop53 Před 5 měsíci +3

    15:20
    Quaquaval in the past few months has also gained Knock Off and Triple Axel. Its honestly a really cool pokemon

  • @homebaked1731
    @homebaked1731 Před 5 měsíci +15

    How is charizard ranked so high when it’s been pu for the last 3 gens

    • @aleger620
      @aleger620 Před 4 měsíci +1

      That’s puzzling me too… but if the video author was making a video based on NATDEX-Tier where Both Mega Char versions are available, it has its sense because both are very solid mons, normal Char in Pu and UU char is quite nasty…
      So, probabily a little FORCED but Char deserve a seat in the upper level of the pyramid 🙂

    • @homebaked1731
      @homebaked1731 Před měsícem

      It’s recently dropped to ZU. I’m even more baffled as to why it’s ranked so high here

  • @Folutu
    @Folutu Před 5 měsíci +4

    My favorite and chosen starters for each gen:
    Gen 1: Bulbasaur
    Gen 2: Totodile
    Gen 3: Treecko
    Gen 4: Turtwig
    Gen 5: Snivy
    Gen 6: Froakie
    Gen 7: Rowlet
    Gen 8: Sobble
    Gen 9: Fuecoco
    Looking at the list, I think I've picked rather well. I tend towards reptile/amphibian Pokémon, with a bias towards Grass and the resulting choices haven't been bad.

    • @arnoldwolf6
      @arnoldwolf6 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Besides the first two I also have the same favorites (gen 3 to gen 9), but My fav of all starter is by far far far far margin Squirtle (I have a Blastoise tattoo on my back). 2nd gen is Chikorita (but is more by a nostalgic factor than competitive or any other way)

  • @TheSpiritOfGeorgia
    @TheSpiritOfGeorgia Před 5 měsíci +3

    We need these tierlist from you!
    Great video.

  • @gamerwatchproductions8684
    @gamerwatchproductions8684 Před 5 měsíci

    I would like to see more of these tier list videos. Could the next one be the regional variants ranked?

  • @mylestomsik4720
    @mylestomsik4720 Před 5 měsíci +3

    No matter if some of the starters were strong or not, they still are iconic and memorable, and we will remember them for a long time to come.

  • @MrSupersonic2012
    @MrSupersonic2012 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Meganium fans: GF please buff
    GF: What? You want us to give Charizard ANOTHER new form?

  • @marioalbertofernandez9225
    @marioalbertofernandez9225 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Serperior is my favorite starter and I liked its high place.

  • @tnghunter
    @tnghunter Před 3 měsíci +1

    I did have fun mopping the floor with Zacian & Cinderace in doubles.
    "Oh, you have a bulky water type? Well Libero energy ball should deal with that fine."

  • @yuga7397
    @yuga7397 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I couldn't stop thinking of terminal montage's animation while watching this

  • @nametab6415
    @nametab6415 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Great video as always: of course I'd make a few changes though
    Samurott down to E: It might have been good in NU but it's still always NU, similar to Typhlosion's frequent NU excursions
    Chesnaught up to C: The OU niche in XY does a fair bit for me here even if it ead RU by usage
    Skeledirge to A: Only one generation but it's literally checking the most broken pokemon conceived. Definitely higher than Meow

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Zard atleast a tier lower as well? been badge if you exclude the bias and 2 megas it got, B tops but C even

  • @jacobruby2237
    @jacobruby2237 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I'm glad that Torterra finally got Shell Smash and other moves in Gen 9. (It should've gotten Shell Smash in BDSP) Though on BDSP, there must've been tiers for it right? I remember when Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee had its own playable tiers.

  • @Smallsmallrose
    @Smallsmallrose Před 5 měsíci

    Decidueye also saw a good amount of use in gen 7 UU, it was a decent stallbreaker in a meta where stallbreakers were inconsistent due to stall's variety, and its Z-move was incredibly powerful, even to resists.

  • @gio9255
    @gio9255 Před 5 měsíci

    This was an awesome video format. Please do this again for the pseudo legendaries and legendaries.

  • @sebarsht12
    @sebarsht12 Před 5 měsíci +4

    It really goes to show, despite Grass having the reputation of one of the worst offensive typing, their support capabilities and resistances to some key types. Grass serves to be one of the most balanced types (in terms of starters)
    From my view and counting, using the number of Mons above and below C-Tier (which i consider as the middle ground)
    - Grass is well-balanced
    - Fire, even counting regional forms is POWERFUL as well as popular, it helps that many games have a sparce diversity of fire types.
    - Water while favouring average towards above average. As a whole, to me, it's reliable. Squirtle was my first ever Pokémon, Gatr was my first ever shiny. I tend to lean towards the Water type.
    -

    • @brain_tonic
      @brain_tonic Před 5 měsíci

      That’s what makes Meganium extra bad. It manages to be a grass type without all those good grass support moves and good abilities that grass types tend to have. Also grass is frequently a good secondary typing on defensive mons (see ferrothorn or Amoonguss) but Meganium is monotype. Bro never stood a chance. 😢

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 Před 5 měsíci

      @@brain_tonicblame power creep and the existance of better Pokémon
      Just use Tangrowth , it’s just much better than most things Meganium can do
      Offensive Grass types ; Ferrothorn , Ogerpon-Hearthflame, Waterpon and Rockpon exist now, even Kartana and Mega Venusaur
      Venusaur nowadays is a lot better since Poison typing helps it with Fairies

    • @sebarsht12
      @sebarsht12 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@bryanc1772 it should also be noted that Meganium has access to the Grass staples of Leech Seed, Powders and self-healing as well as dual screens.
      Then Serperior came along.

    • @brain_tonic
      @brain_tonic Před 5 měsíci

      @@sebarsht12 It actually only has poison powder, which is a terrible move... meanwhile Venusaur has sleep powder and toxic. Also hundreds of mons have screens, pretty irrelevant to mention. Leech seed is on every defensive grass pretty much, so Meganium isn't really standing out with that either.

  • @playersnake
    @playersnake Před 5 měsíci +4

    Please do a theorem video explaining the impact of entry hazards (forretress theorem)

  • @GrizbyK72
    @GrizbyK72 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Wow. I love Venusaur, but did not expect it to be ranked this high. And right next to its “cooler” sibling no less.

  • @thomasmcmahan2631
    @thomasmcmahan2631 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Its interesting to think about how different this list is now. Of course blaziken earns a top spot for so many years of dominance but he has definitely been power crept quite a bit.

  • @mragabiou5478
    @mragabiou5478 Před 5 měsíci +87

    Charizard: The best and worst starter of ALL TIME

    • @andytaker3073
      @andytaker3073 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Except you are incorrect about Charizard being the worst starter of all time

    • @mragabiou5478
      @mragabiou5478 Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@andytaker3073true but he has been top tier and bottom tier multiple times

    • @sharkronical
      @sharkronical Před 5 měsíci +4

      ⁠@@mragabiou5478the only time it’s bottom tier is gen 1 arguably. Gen 2 it’s good and gen 3 onwards, Meganium exists

    • @ItsJustKaya
      @ItsJustKaya Před 5 měsíci +1

      Let me freshen up your knowledge.
      Gen2 fire starter has same bst. And yet we talk less about it then the grass type which is ironic considering its almost non-existing fanbase

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 Před 5 měsíci +3

      without megas its D at best

  • @superdriver
    @superdriver Před 5 měsíci +4

    Imagine releasing this the day Sceptile gets shed tail

  • @ryanmurphy3149
    @ryanmurphy3149 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Some fun Cinderace tech
    Since Ace is mono type instead of dual type like its Protean starter counterparts, using a fire type move as your first move will not trigger Libero.
    You can use Pyro Ball or Will o Wisp turn 1, then use Iron Head turn 2 and you'll change to steel type.
    I believe the reason Meowscarada and Greninja cant do this is because of their dual typing specifically, making Cinderace all the more unique compared to the other two

  • @brandonespinoza9279
    @brandonespinoza9279 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Meganium should get a buff like a HUGE amount to its Grass-Type moves and offensive stats, under Sunlight/Grassy Terrain, which I would call Herbal Boost, which would boost its Attack & Special Attack by 50% (100% if both Sunlight & Grassy Terrain are each set up) respectively.

  • @Unknwnwrrior
    @Unknwnwrrior Před 5 měsíci +3

    "Please buff Meganium"
    GF with the Indigo Disk: "Nerf Meganium? Alright!"

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Quaquaval should be B tier as it was ranked OU for half a year. Great video!!

  • @boop53
    @boop53 Před 5 měsíci +1

    imo, Meowscarada will be back in OU. It will have competition of course, but that movepool and speed tier will always give it a place
    it gained some new moves in indigo disk

  • @DatMageDoe
    @DatMageDoe Před 5 měsíci

    If we're making this a series (which tbh, I'm down for), I'd love to see variants of this for Pseudo-Legendaries, Box Art Legendaries, and Mythicals. Though admittedly for Box Art Legendaries in particular you'd need to base it on more than just tier because all but a small number of them share the same tier.

  • @snowyinferno
    @snowyinferno Před 5 měsíci +12

    Meganium has always been the pokemon I first look for new moveset changes in every new release since gen 6

    • @arnoldwolf6
      @arnoldwolf6 Před 5 měsíci

      Me too. I also have thad bad habit, this gen lost Aromatherapy and got Body Press, Knock Off and Zen Headbutt. The problem is that stil with shitty Leaf Guard and no signature move that gives a specif niche.

  • @missplayer30
    @missplayer30 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Yay! My favorite starter, Swampert, ever made it to A tier, I'm so proud of him. I don't care if he isn't S tier (Which honestly it's a very tough spot to reach), as long as he is still ze best and still is.

  • @DanteMoraes
    @DanteMoraes Před 4 měsíci

    Love it. Do you think you can make a eevelution tier list too?

  • @lorenzotosi7872
    @lorenzotosi7872 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Always wanted a well done starter analysis, my hope was fading but fsg is there for a reason

  • @sinno96
    @sinno96 Před 5 měsíci +10

    I know people like Charizard, but I gotta say I would put it in B. While it’s had OU nichés, I can’t put it above infernape for how good it was in gen 4, 5, and 6 to an extent.

    • @obiwancannoli1920
      @obiwancannoli1920 Před 5 měsíci

      Infernape has always been good in UU

    • @Alastordadeer
      @Alastordadeer Před 5 měsíci

      Fair but solar power charizard is a menace. Almost nothing can come in on an overheat from this thing. And it’s mega’s have always been goated

    • @supercrazy843
      @supercrazy843 Před 5 měsíci

      Zard has been OU in 3 gens, UUBL in Gen 2 with a great niche in OU if you can pull it off, while also having a good niche in OU in gen 8 with its base form. Infernape was OU for 2 gens and hasn't had a niche in OU since Gen 5. Zard has had lower lows than infernape but it has had higher highs too.

    • @Alastordadeer
      @Alastordadeer Před 5 měsíci

      @@supercrazy843 solar power charizard is a menace tho

    • @supercrazy843
      @supercrazy843 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Alastordadeer only in gen 8 during Isle of armor. Solar power zard is strong but historically hasn't been enough to have a solid niche until gen 8 Isle of armor

  • @xeruexe1624
    @xeruexe1624 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Shouldn't we count Raichu for Yellow's Pikachu? So Meganium wouldn't be so lonely down there.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Před 5 měsíci

      In neither game where Pikachu is a starter can you even evolve it.

    • @Espadasilenciosa
      @Espadasilenciosa Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@skeetermania3202 You can trade it to another game, evolve it there and trade it back to yellow

  • @maykonbrasileiro761
    @maykonbrasileiro761 Před 3 měsíci +1

    As someone who had chikorita as their first starter
    I still wait for the day it will be good

  • @shawnli4746
    @shawnli4746 Před 5 měsíci +1

    And here I was wondering when new fsg content would show up