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Komentáře • 213

  • @xdferocious6016
    @xdferocious6016 Před měsícem +498

    Calling yourself a washed up king is hilarious 😂

    • @AlmostNamedOne
      @AlmostNamedOne Před měsícem +5

      hasn't won a worlds in a while

    • @rudrahazari8087
      @rudrahazari8087 Před měsícem +24

      @@AlmostNamedOnehas not played worlds in a while , went out on top

    • @AlmostNamedOne
      @AlmostNamedOne Před měsícem +1

      oh i thought he just stopped being the best

    • @rudrahazari8087
      @rudrahazari8087 Před měsícem +7

      @@AlmostNamedOne na he does commentary now for regionals and all

    • @rudrahazari8087
      @rudrahazari8087 Před měsícem +14

      He is the only person to win worlds 3 times

  • @kaotic300
    @kaotic300 Před měsícem +552

    it would be sooo epic of ray wins a 4th world championship and takes metagross to the top once again 🏆🌎

    • @FlygonkingVGC
      @FlygonkingVGC Před měsícem +6

      It’s not that gross now with heavy slam

    • @treysmith9314
      @treysmith9314 Před měsícem +18

      Gouging fire is not gonna let that happen

    • @kaotic300
      @kaotic300 Před měsícem +17

      @@treysmith9314 depends on the set and if the tera is used (i've seen many tera fairy gouging fires)
      metagross can technically win a world championship just by being on a winning even if it isn't used in battle (thereby avoiding a gouging fire matchup)

    • @zhanlin6179
      @zhanlin6179 Před měsícem +11

      It’ll be very cool if that happens. But let’s be real, even for Wolfey who’s keeping up with VGC for years nonstop along with good results, winning worlds is still a hard thing. Even if Ray is as good as he was a decade ago, giving him this expectation for his returning is still a bit toxic.

    • @kaotic300
      @kaotic300 Před měsícem +13

      @@zhanlin6179 just qualifying for worlds is crazy hard, let alone winning it.
      ray winning for a 4th time (with or without a metagross) would make for an amazing story, but is highly unlikely.
      its probably more wishful thinking than toxic tho

  • @Bjix
    @Bjix Před měsícem +402

    GameFreak needs to grow some balls and give metagross shift gear

    • @joegarcia0
      @joegarcia0 Před měsícem +22

      Bro wtf, no 😂

    • @WalmartWhite.
      @WalmartWhite. Před měsícem

      Enjoy your dislike ​@@joegarcia0

    • @fogwzu1939
      @fogwzu1939 Před měsícem

      ​@@joegarcia0yes ,Yes, YES!

    • @avej99
      @avej99 Před měsícem

      Relax satan

    • @Shikiai12
      @Shikiai12 Před měsícem +62

      @@joegarcia0Ngl next generations power level would probably actually make this balanced and finally give him the UU placement he deserves(shift gear metagross isn’t hitting Ubers or OU, to many ground and fire types would don’t care about it kingambit, Darkrai, meowscarada can do something, and Doubles in general)
      Nvm I was wrong

  • @chefkochjay
    @chefkochjay Před měsícem +119

    My Boi just casually inserted clips of him beating Wolfey in this video. Gotta love their friendship :)

  • @oopsgtg
    @oopsgtg Před měsícem +86

    Great video, I'd also add that Metagross was the best mon in Gen 3 VGC as well, Isao Yoshioka won Japan Nationals 2004 with it, and Takashi Mase used it to win in 2005, it was also the most used in the 2005 format.

    • @danielboismier6194
      @danielboismier6194 Před měsícem +1

      I think Metagross was on at least a few of the winning teams in 2006’s JAA.

  • @scottcrysel
    @scottcrysel Před měsícem +41

    One of my all time faves. Still bring my shiny cherish ball metagross forward from ORAS every gen for celebrity appearances on the ladder

  • @BigDeetz
    @BigDeetz Před měsícem +125

    Funny how Beldum is still so hard to catch when metagross is no longer nearly so intimidating

    • @gregorymirabella1423
      @gregorymirabella1423 Před měsícem +14

      It doesn't have take down anymore and is easier to find, so it's not so bad anymore.

    • @Greninja3366
      @Greninja3366 Před 22 dny +4

      My first ever shiny was a shiny metang in Pokémon black, I got it to 1hp and paralyzed it, then used over 300 timer balls on it without catching it, then after I used up all my revives it killed itself by hitting my volcarona 💀
      This happened so long ago but I still remember it clearly and despise the metagross line to this day

    • @gregorymirabella1423
      @gregorymirabella1423 Před 22 dny +3

      @@Greninja3366 I feel bad for 2 reasons. One is the fact that you went through that, and the other is that I caught the shadow Metagross in coliseum in a pokeball on my first try.

    • @atpyro7920
      @atpyro7920 Před 13 dny

      @@gregorymirabella1423 in fairness, that metagross's catch rate was bumped up to 45 instead of 3

    • @gregorymirabella1423
      @gregorymirabella1423 Před 12 dny +1

      @@atpyro7920 ...I didn't know that. I feel a lot less special now.

  • @BlueEye096
    @BlueEye096 Před měsícem +64

    Metagross and Incineroar. The strongest Pokemon in history vs the strongest Pokemon of today.

    • @AuroraBoost
      @AuroraBoost Před měsícem +8

      Metagross really hit that "Nah I'd win" on Incineroar

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Před měsícem +7

      Metagross really tried to break and repair its brain with five Zen Headbutt Domain Expansions, and still lost

    • @xyannail4678
      @xyannail4678 Před měsícem +8

      Incineroar really hit Metagross with the "With this treasure I summon, Dark Lariat."

    • @miracleboysatori7160
      @miracleboysatori7160 Před měsícem +3

      @@iantaakalla8180 Zenin Headbutt

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron Před 22 dny

      @@AuroraBoost you got it reversed bud

  • @dustrose8101
    @dustrose8101 Před měsícem +56

    Not washed, just a retired king.

    • @plutigvid
      @plutigvid Před měsícem +3

      It still makes me so sad that he got cheated out of his world's qualification this last competitive year. I think he had a very real chance of having an amazing world's run, and I was so excited for the storyline.

  • @MorrisPXG
    @MorrisPXG Před měsícem +6

    Metagross in the Past:Kaboom?
    Arceus:Yes Metagross,Kaboom.

  • @AceTrainerLiam
    @AceTrainerLiam Před měsícem +12

    Love these deep dives! Can’t wait for more!

  • @nnicoiosi
    @nnicoiosi Před měsícem +12

    Let me add that Metagross is, to no surprise, the king of Orre Colosseum (Gen 3 VGC) as well. Clear Body, access to the best physical movepool pre-phys/spec-split including the coveted EQ and Explosion (both of which get no spread damage reduction in gen 3) and the rare steel type with its amazing synergy with the other best mons, the Latis, make it the undisputed best physical attacker in the format.

  • @poxx1525
    @poxx1525 Před měsícem +18

    Cool to see you making content. I remember the Wigglytuff regional win you got in X and Y and it got me to take VGC seriously.

  • @harb1ng3r82
    @harb1ng3r82 Před měsícem +10

    The gutting of explosion was a really unfortunate change, but I get why GameFreak chose to do it. Thanks for making this vid, because I think a lot of people these days really don’t understand how dominant Metagross was for a few generations, and hearing the GOAT talk about VGC Gross from firsthand experience is awesome.

  • @lelandwhitehead56
    @lelandwhitehead56 Před měsícem +10

    Has been my favorite ‘mon since Steven Stone used it against me in Ruby and then gave me a baby Beldum. I’d love for it to see some competitive successes again!

  • @brady7222
    @brady7222 Před měsícem +11

    metagross is one of my favorites! I hope it kicks ass in vgc now that it's back

  • @inoobtacular501
    @inoobtacular501 Před měsícem +60

    @rayrizzo. You'll always be the goat. You're not washed

  • @jordannng7180
    @jordannng7180 Před měsícem +7

    Steel types should still resist ghost. I have no idea why they changed that. Ghost is such a phenomenal typing both offensively and defensively. Metagross definitely suffered one of the hardest during that transition. Aegislash ruined everything lol

  • @luissilva1954
    @luissilva1954 Před 25 dny +1

    it's important for newer players to know that, despite every speed stat shown being numerically the same as their base speed at 15:00, doubling the speed stat *is not* the same thing as doubling the base speed stat
    fully invested neutral nature mega swampert (base 70 speed) has 239 speed at level 100. During rain, its speed goes up to 478, which would be equivalent of a pokemon having nearly *190 base speed*

  • @tommyvril
    @tommyvril Před měsícem +2

    More of these please 👏🏼

  • @Connowot387
    @Connowot387 Před měsícem +7

    0:20 Sonic Boom! Nice!

  • @ZitroNino
    @ZitroNino Před měsícem +2

    love your videos keep it up man 😎

  • @wesselvandorsten
    @wesselvandorsten Před měsícem +5

    My all-time favourite 'mon. Will never stop trying to force teams around it.

    • @Mcspazz731
      @Mcspazz731 Před měsícem +1

      Same. Glad to see a fellow cultured pokemon fan worshipping at the church of Metagross

    • @juggerdarknaut013
      @juggerdarknaut013 Před měsícem

      Metagross for life!!!

    • @kamemelia_
      @kamemelia_ Před měsícem

      Same! He's been in 90% of my teams

  • @MrBrowser1881
    @MrBrowser1881 Před měsícem +1

    subscribed, glad I just found this channel, awesome and insightful video, thank you

  • @unknown634VODS
    @unknown634VODS Před měsícem +7

    I forgot I got your metagross event pokemon until I saw the clip of your shiny metagross and then I remembered the distribution

  • @JpDeltell
    @JpDeltell Před měsícem +6

    You forgot to mention it has the best shiny in the game.
    Jokes aside, great video great editing🎉

  • @jebalitabb8228
    @jebalitabb8228 Před měsícem +4

    Metagross has always been my fav pseudo legend so it’s sad to see where it is

  • @gheleorm8894
    @gheleorm8894 Před měsícem +1

    Nice vid' and instructive ! Thanks !

  • @troybrockmorales1444
    @troybrockmorales1444 Před měsícem +1

    I really liked this video. I have been wanting to play older gen formats with my friends, but I can't find much infk about those metas and strategies of that time. I hope that is something you can make a video on

    • @mainzer45
      @mainzer45 Před měsícem +1

      If you're interested in older gen game play, at least for singles, big yellow, reverend, and plague von karma are great for gen 1, jimothy cool has a good amount of gen 3 content, and bkc for gen 1-4 content and some other gens here and there, with a ton of good gen 2 content. You can also look up pre-built teams and viability rankings for old gens to get a good idea of how to build a team in any individual generation.

    • @troybrockmorales1444
      @troybrockmorales1444 Před měsícem

      @mainzer45 where can I look up for pre built teams for older gen? Is there a website that has all that info? Maybe info on older metas and so forth

    • @mainzer45
      @mainzer45 Před měsícem

      @@troybrockmorales1444 just start by looking up generation(IE rby/gsc/rse/dpp) then prebuild, normally you'll find them on the smogon forums. Same as the viability rankings. Prebuild teams on the forums tend to have explanations of their roles as well in the metagame, and so do many viability rankings.

  • @calebcalhoun9847
    @calebcalhoun9847 Před měsícem +3

    “Metagross, *much like myself sadly* , is the washed up king”
    Me: Huh? _checks channel_ WAIT WTF? RAY RIZZO?!

  • @standjob9161
    @standjob9161 Před měsícem +3

    Metagross one of the few pseudos directly nerfed like 3 times it was so sad

  • @yommmrr
    @yommmrr Před měsícem +2

    I havent subbed to anyone in a long while but i just did. This channel will go somewhere.

  • @Dadmagic
    @Dadmagic Před měsícem +1

    Great editing!

  • @Lilskeevs
    @Lilskeevs Před měsícem +1

    Great video from the goat 🐐💯💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

  • @ArgenPolmerica
    @ArgenPolmerica Před měsícem +2

    I love how you used the clip of Goh catching a Beedrill

  • @SoulXCross.
    @SoulXCross. Před měsícem +2

    It's the same with Empoleon. Steel types losing the 2 resistance, and now losing Scald, really sealed the deal on Empoleon opportunity to finally shine big.

  • @kobiemartinbose6126
    @kobiemartinbose6126 Před měsícem +8

    Metagross SHOULD have a good showing in gen 9 VGC especially with buffs in Heavy slam and bullet punch with CB sets to deal with mane. Psychic Fangs can be significant to break through against the recent regional uproar of specs Articuno with veil A-Ninetales. It still has good support offense in knock off is superb for rocky helmet/choice users. Personally, if the Snow teams with cuno and A-Ninetales continue to be threats, Metagross alongside other good counters like tera water Ting-lu would bring major assets to the table as counterplays while serving as threatening offensive pokemon.

    • @YoJoRockThaBeat
      @YoJoRockThaBeat Před měsícem

      Being weak to Fluttermane and Dark Shifu just hurts it so much though.
      Mainly the latter.
      If it wasn't for that I think Metagross would be on more howl teams.

    • @ecid1176
      @ecid1176 Před měsícem

      Now let's just give him shift gear and watch the world burn.

  • @algar6616
    @algar6616 Před měsícem +1

    Great content I’m contented

  • @bryanmarcia4104
    @bryanmarcia4104 Před měsícem +1

    Holy Moly its Ray Rizzo

  • @lachlanbaxter-jones7541
    @lachlanbaxter-jones7541 Před měsícem +1

    Great thumbnails! Wouldn’t of found the channel without them

  • @Seetiyan
    @Seetiyan Před měsícem +1

    The editing in this video is top-notch! I cracked up at the car crash.

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před měsícem

      Thank you sir, I appreciate that 🫡

  • @promarebs3895
    @promarebs3895 Před měsícem +1

    Gouging fire howl + life orb metagross is soooo good

  • @SerDerpish
    @SerDerpish Před měsícem +1

    One of my favorite mons ever! HYYYYPE 🍻🙌🏽🎉

  • @eduardohierro6086
    @eduardohierro6086 Před měsícem +2

    Babe, wake up, new Ray Rizzo

  • @bryanurbay1208
    @bryanurbay1208 Před měsícem +2

    12:40 ULTRAKILL DETECTED

  • @daviaugustodeoliveira9047
    @daviaugustodeoliveira9047 Před měsícem +4

    my favorite pokémon

  • @poppyfrancis7338
    @poppyfrancis7338 Před měsícem +1

    I miss old explosion. The move was balanced well enough as it was, it didn't need to lose the defense lowering. Although, that said, I don't find explosion strategies fun to begin with, I just want them to be worth considering in serious play again

  • @johncapetii1381
    @johncapetii1381 Před 27 dny +1

    the thumbnail is sick

  • @zm2mad9
    @zm2mad9 Před měsícem +1

    Bro got shafted hard by mechanics changes. First it was the explosion nerf, then the nerf to steel, power creep, losing mega in Gen 8

  • @cloudstrife6793
    @cloudstrife6793 Před měsícem

    Great video man, always appreciate your take on this game.
    Did you manage tonqualifybfor worlds this year? I would love to see you compete in it once again❤

  • @Submissive-Soul
    @Submissive-Soul Před měsícem +1

    one of Metagrosses worst hits was the weakness to ghost and dark so many strong ghosts and mega gengar trapped and hit it's weaker special defence... Aegislash could easily tank an earthquake and kill it back with a spec shadowball

  • @FlygonkingVGC
    @FlygonkingVGC Před měsícem +1

    I’m gonna say it again megas coming back with dynamic speed would be crazy

  • @ernestomoreno4409
    @ernestomoreno4409 Před měsícem +1

    I played the early games when they were released without realising that steel was resistant to dark and ghost.

  • @thomkins1093
    @thomkins1093 Před měsícem +3

    It's funny how you called yourself washed Ur the vgc goat

  • @HannibalKantter
    @HannibalKantter Před měsícem +1

    Metagross is my favourite pseudo-legendary right after Garchomp. I rememeber finally evolving one as a child in Ruby, and being amazed at just how strong and durable it was. I didn't understand weaknesses and resistances very well back then (I mean, I was 4), I only knew that barely any attack damaged it in any substantial way, and it punched like a truck in return

  • @breezyvgc
    @breezyvgc Před měsícem +1

    The unfortunate thing about Metagross is that people are still stuck on the explosion strats with it, going with normal tera explosion, which in my opinion is holding it back. The problem is now everyone knows about the infamous tera normal explosion strat and it's super easy to deal with (just double protect). Anyways I'm now off to build a metagross team because I'm inspired.

  • @nobodyimportant4778
    @nobodyimportant4778 Před 25 dny +1

    Fun fact: beldum's got the same catch rate as arceus, except it can kill itself.

  • @LRXC1
    @LRXC1 Před měsícem +3

    Rip the entirety of gen3 VGC, cool video otherwise!

  • @ZedBeiFeng
    @ZedBeiFeng Před měsícem +2

    Incineroar was busted then they gave him parting shot like why he was already winning every world championship he doesn’t need parting shot.

  • @vuuduugames4778
    @vuuduugames4778 Před měsícem +4

    Actually, if explosion cuts the opponent’s defense in half, that is the equivalent to giving the move a base 50% power boost. So that means explosion is effectively 375, and not doubled to 500.

  • @imn_fauler6098
    @imn_fauler6098 Před měsícem +1

    And this regulation, while not being common it certainly is a monster of a mon

  • @BRUIN1821
    @BRUIN1821 Před měsícem +1

    Weakness Policy Agility Bulldoze is my favorite flavor of Metagross

  • @goomyiscute777
    @goomyiscute777 Před měsícem +1

    “If you’re nothing without the Metagrossite, then you shouldn’t have it.”

  • @ethanbriandmello5048
    @ethanbriandmello5048 Před 18 dny

    11:04 I never expected seeing an economics concept in a discussion of Mega Pokemon.

  • @Esmonimoni
    @Esmonimoni Před měsícem +2

    WE NEED RAY BACK 🙏

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged Před měsícem +1

    Mega-Metagross was SO COOL

  • @blazarus1614
    @blazarus1614 Před měsícem +1

    Ray, i wna see u back on competitive pokemon just to see wolfe and ray rematch

  • @Illumisepoolist
    @Illumisepoolist Před měsícem +1

    Don't forget Tera Water Metagross to have it have coverage against Fire Types.

  • @ytheUltimate
    @ytheUltimate Před měsícem +2

    Tried it in competitive...too bad dark urshifu exists. Also flutter mane can survive a bullet punch and threaten with shadow ball.

  • @FarhanH1
    @FarhanH1 Před měsícem +1

    Awesome video. I totally forgot that steel used to resist dark and ghost. Fairy/Steel is truly the new Psychic/Steel.
    Edit: accidentally wrote psychic instead of steel. Now corrected.

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 Před měsícem

      You mean Steel right 😅

    • @FarhanH1
      @FarhanH1 Před měsícem

      @@Smart1529 yeah hahaha

  • @vivderbinkie56
    @vivderbinkie56 Před měsícem +1

    i was gonna scream primal groudon as the most prevalent comp pokemon

  • @aravindsabarinathan9737
    @aravindsabarinathan9737 Před měsícem +1

    Name three world pokemon world champions who have three world champion wins
    1.Ray rizzo
    2.Metagross
    3.inceneroar

  • @Guesswhoswatching2
    @Guesswhoswatching2 Před měsícem +1

    All you had to say in one breath is: steel types no longer resist ghost and dark.

  • @rapmetaldemon09
    @rapmetaldemon09 Před měsícem +1

    Huh...always thought that Tyranitar was the most storied pseudo legend. The more you know 🌠

  • @BRUIN1821
    @BRUIN1821 Před měsícem +1

    When Megas are back, Metagross will be TERRIFYING with all the moves it gained access to in Scarlet/Violet

  • @77Fallen7
    @77Fallen7 Před měsícem +1

    They robbed Metagross with the levitate hidden ability.

  • @rhndemolem5523
    @rhndemolem5523 Před měsícem +2

    Ray sensei 🙌

  • @gregorymirabella1423
    @gregorymirabella1423 Před měsícem +1

    Just give it a regional form that swaps psychic for anything else. Ghost, fairy, ground, flying, roc- okay maybe not anything but the point still stands.

  • @haime6930
    @haime6930 Před měsícem +1

    Why did metagross never get the ability levitate? It makes alot of sense to have it

  • @eSchoolpoke
    @eSchoolpoke Před měsícem +1

    perfect video!

  • @miguelsanchez825
    @miguelsanchez825 Před měsícem +1

    Wish they gave him though claws as a hidden ability. His hidden ability is just to bad and psychic type is very bad atm, they could even buff meteor mash is kinda mid atm.

  • @Cryiphon
    @Cryiphon Před měsícem +1

    nice video!

  • @melvinencinascabrera4897
    @melvinencinascabrera4897 Před 29 dny +1

    Omg its ray rizzo

  • @Amaling
    @Amaling Před měsícem

    Ok so Ray is the Metagross to Wolfey's Incineroar, got it

  • @jonming6676
    @jonming6676 Před měsícem +4

    It’s weird referring to Ray Rizzo as washed.
    Ray Rizzo = Jordan
    Wolfey = Lebron

  • @wii3564
    @wii3564 Před měsícem +1

    C'mon man dont do that to my boy Parasect lol

  • @xfusionz619
    @xfusionz619 Před měsícem +3

    I feel bad for metagross 😢

  • @hassanmahmoud6495
    @hassanmahmoud6495 Před měsícem +1

    I know moxie boosted wanted Metagross to get shift gear, but is the set up that worth it? I ask because I know sometimes people think if a pokemon needs set up it may not be “good”

    • @Mcspazz731
      @Mcspazz731 Před měsícem +1

      Short answer yes. Agility weakness policy was already pretty solid, it only needs 1 turn with shift gear to be a huge menace, which it will get from its bulk. As for setup mons not being good, it can be true sometimes but there's also trick room for example which takes bad pokemon (too slow to do anything) and makes them great

  • @grandmastr2602
    @grandmastr2602 Před měsícem +7

    Did y’all know Ray won a world championship

  • @RocketPropelledMexican
    @RocketPropelledMexican Před měsícem +2

    The rizz king

  • @prodigalsun1678
    @prodigalsun1678 Před měsícem

    Hear me out gamefreak needs to do a “balance patch” for a large variety of old gen pokemon. Instead of giving them megas and other new features they need to actually adjust the stats and either buff or nerf new and old pokemon so there is more incentive to play a wider variety of pokemon. Theres no reason they havent done it yet other than being stubborn because theyve never done it before.

  • @PkmnTrainerEmerald
    @PkmnTrainerEmerald Před měsícem +2

    Metagross my dude

  • @ro-q7621
    @ro-q7621 Před měsícem +2

    I wish metagross got more used often in compaditive.
    I love that pokemon ^^

  • @one5lyfox
    @one5lyfox Před měsícem

    I thought they fixed the mega turn order in ORAS 🤔

  • @marcorodriguez8792
    @marcorodriguez8792 Před měsícem +1

    Make steel resist ghost and dark again

  • @pastaman7278
    @pastaman7278 Před měsícem

    Imagine if Metagross got Unseen Fist

  • @kyogrecrown5869
    @kyogrecrown5869 Před měsícem +1

    Such a shame that metagross's hidden ability is effectively useless. Imagone if it had something cool, like giving it back its ghost and dark resistances

  • @PT5-Shorts
    @PT5-Shorts Před měsícem +1

    Will you do a video with WolfeVGC

  • @JustFuriCM
    @JustFuriCM Před měsícem

    Have fun against Ogerpon (Fire Mask) Metacgross

  • @MrIcenice44
    @MrIcenice44 Před měsícem

    Him Duncan in the flesh