Why Dragonite is FINALLY Good

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Komentáře • 195

  • @the_one_gio
    @the_one_gio Před 4 měsíci +547

    You had me at Dragonite.

    • @MarcosLCoco
      @MarcosLCoco Před 4 měsíci +9

      Bro, congrats on the SA regional win! It was awesome to see it in person!

    • @mengchen1759
      @mengchen1759 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Me too😊

    • @TyEats0031
      @TyEats0031 Před 4 měsíci

      He had me at Dragon- because I am dragon my balls across your forehead 😊.

  • @YoJoRockThaBeat
    @YoJoRockThaBeat Před 4 měsíci +380

    No Special Z Move, No Mega, No Dynamax Form, yet Dragonite is out here thriving.

    • @TheUnique69able
      @TheUnique69able Před 4 měsíci +65

      No good stab options for 30 years but it’s still good.

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Před 4 měsíci +17

      ​@@TheUnique69able Almost 28 years, but I'll let it slide.

    • @daffi32
      @daffi32 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@enoyna1001he rounded up…it’s been about 30 years 😂

    • @phyllotaxis
      @phyllotaxis Před 4 měsíci +7

      All of those got removed, but Dragonite gets to keep multiscale and extremespeed ☺

    • @clutchpedro208
      @clutchpedro208 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Lance dragonite literally has a dynamax form

  • @crushingon
    @crushingon Před 4 měsíci +26

    I hadn't noticed how hard Gen 6 dogpiled on Dragonite. Pretty much every pseudolegendary bar Hydreigon (who hardly needed one) got a Mega. *Audino* Got a mega.
    And then they added a type totally immune to him to top it off

  • @EnbyNomad
    @EnbyNomad Před 4 měsíci +80

    Dragonite has always been a statement to me. It doesnt get most of what the other psuedo legend dragon mons get, but that has never stopped it from competing.

  • @Picollo860847
    @Picollo860847 Před 4 měsíci +36

    5:55 hiii thats me! Ironically i used Dragonite on the special side with Hurricane, Draco Meteor and Flamethrower @Habanberry as a somewhat reliable Anti-weather mon. At this timeframe,many rain dance teams where roaming around with Ludicolo (and Kingdra) as its main Attackers and i needed something which can One- shot Ludicolo/Kingdra. Flamethrower also helped against the rare Abomasnow and did nice damage against Metagross and Scizor.
    Lets just say it worked quite nice atleast for that time.

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci +7

      Woah, that’s so cool! Those moves were definitely better STAB moves than the Physical ones it got at the time, so that was a good call!
      Glad you found the video!

  • @TsuchiGamer06
    @TsuchiGamer06 Před 4 měsíci +55

    He's my favorite Pseudo bc of his duality: adorable and always powerful at least for a time in any generation

  • @karlwyborski3644
    @karlwyborski3644 Před 4 měsíci +30

    I know the editing doesn't affect the quality of the ideas shared, but they make it very enjoyable to watch as a background to the video essay.

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci +8

      I’m glad you enjoyed it! I had a lot of fun with this one 🙃

    • @wentoneisendon6502
      @wentoneisendon6502 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@pokezach494_ it was damn good!

  • @dereksimmons5877
    @dereksimmons5877 Před 4 měsíci +6

    My favorite Pokemon. I'm glad Extreme Speed gave D its flowers..I hadn't realized how fitting that was

  • @nogai2296
    @nogai2296 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Everyone knows this but I will bring it up again the only reason dragonite didn’t get a mega was because the Pokémon company was not going tot add a “Dragoniteite” to the game

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci

      It would have been way too silly of a name… 😆

    • @GameZone-ib7eu
      @GameZone-ib7eu Před 4 měsíci +6

      Yet they added “duduncsparce” in the game

  • @Matthias-pj6th
    @Matthias-pj6th Před 4 měsíci +10

    How to make an overshadowed Pokemon good: Turn it into a Non-Restricted E-Killer Arceus

  • @irvan8099
    @irvan8099 Před 4 měsíci +6

    16:26 Still proud of having this plushie

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci +3

      IT’S SO GOOD he’s just a little guy

  • @michaelm9211
    @michaelm9211 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Dragonite has been my favorite Pokémon since I first beat red version back in 2000 and seeing it in the first movie. I’m glad to see it getting some love.

  • @Reginald_Ritmo
    @Reginald_Ritmo Před 4 měsíci +29

    Pokemon team making HGSS: What if the Dragon's Den gave the player a Dratini with Extreme Speed? That would be a fun reward for the quiz!
    Dragonite in SV: "I AM THE FASTEST! ME! ME!"

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Před 4 měsíci +2

      It was already implemented in GSC and 'only' remade in HGSS

  • @KyletheCuber18
    @KyletheCuber18 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Dragonite is my favorite Pokémon, and seeing this video made my day honestly

  • @JJ-kc2nx
    @JJ-kc2nx Před 4 měsíci +54

    loving the long form content, especially considering how fun the editing is :)

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci +9

      Thank you for that! I had a lot of fun making it :)

  • @Mr.Sax.
    @Mr.Sax. Před 4 měsíci +34

    This is a great video format, Ray. Very enjoyable. I hope you make more "History of Pokemon" videos.

  • @thefinalskarm1754
    @thefinalskarm1754 Před 4 měsíci +12

    A key thing not mentioned is that Multiscale and Extreme Speed were illegal together in generation 5 and 6, with it becoming possible in generation 7 due to becoming an egg move.

    • @pokemonftw3652
      @pokemonftw3652 Před měsícem

      What? Extremespeed was an egg move since Gen 4. Whatcha talking bout lol
      Check serebii

  • @vyktorehon5995
    @vyktorehon5995 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Overtime ive started to love dragonite alot
    Great movepool, great abilities for both smogon and vgc, looks cool as hell, weirdly balanced defensive type

  • @KingRumar
    @KingRumar Před 2 měsíci +2

    I love Dragonite, his design is amazing and simple. What bothers me the most is that in every interpretation of Dragonite by lore and media exposure - he is super fast. So why TF is his base speed so slow for such a speedy dragon?! His base speed is tied with Venusaur

  • @d_wavey8103
    @d_wavey8103 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I saw what you did with the Vaporeon cameo, Ray or Ray's editor. I don't like it, but I saw that.

  • @wispyone3702
    @wispyone3702 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Dragonite is my favorite pokemon! I've always loved his niches in every metagame, singles included. But normal has always been my favorite type though, so I was so happy when Normal Type Dragonite was very powerful and pretty fun to use, especially in formats as fun as the early gen 9 regs.

  • @Peckingbird
    @Peckingbird Před 4 měsíci +5

    A lot of work seemingly went into the editing of this video, it really paid off! 😸

  • @Tom-xt1jn
    @Tom-xt1jn Před 4 měsíci +4

    Favourite Pokemon ever - I used to use him in showdown allll the time in gen 6 and 7 and adored him

  • @alexanderraymond3661
    @alexanderraymond3661 Před 4 měsíci +6

    In the battle stadium 3v3 singles format, Dragonite is a centralizing force in the meta. It’s on everyone’s team, and you don’t know whether it’ll be Extreme killer or a bulky support mon.

  • @Darkwater2013
    @Darkwater2013 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Another great video, I feel like this format should become a regular thing. On the topic of Dragonite, it was my favorite Pokemon as a kid, that sort of changed after I got back into Pokemon and discovered VGC, but now I am just glad that I can use it in a productive way. I remember when the first D-Nite Extreme Speed stuff came up and some people were not convinced at first, but it truely did stick around.

  • @Lilskeevs
    @Lilskeevs Před 2 měsíci +1

    7:24 “like moonblast…” hahaha majors mask moon comes barging in 😂😂❤

  • @PokeMaineEvent
    @PokeMaineEvent Před 4 měsíci +3

    14:46 ayo thts me? Ray Rizzo knows I exist ? thats crazy

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci

      Your footage was very helpful in the making of this video, thank you sir 🫡

  • @justinwiebe8327
    @justinwiebe8327 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You should cover the Gen 4 starters next. Empoleon and Infernape were the first ever starters to succeed in doubles, and at the time, this was extremely rare due to a lack of hidden abilities.

  • @pacoramon9468
    @pacoramon9468 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The real normal type dragon.

  • @nicholaskubas839
    @nicholaskubas839 Před 4 měsíci +5

    We love you @Ray Rizzo

  • @spencercoree
    @spencercoree Před 4 měsíci +2

    dragonite is my favorite pokemon i love him so much

  • @lukelandrunner7915
    @lukelandrunner7915 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I used dragonite during reg b and had a lot of success. The newly found inspiration has led to building 4-5 different build dragonites and having a lot of fun with them.

  • @PandamaticBreakcore
    @PandamaticBreakcore Před 4 měsíci +4

    Perfect timing, given d-nite was on half the top 8 in Portland and on both #1 and #2. Dragonpao is definitely a thing to be prepared for

  • @ElJubranco
    @ElJubranco Před 4 měsíci +2

    Shiny Dragonite is my all time favorite Pokémon.

  • @tlb31m
    @tlb31m Před 4 měsíci +2

    Not only has it dominated in VGC it’s also got a fashion collab with fashion brand Fendi

  • @Matt_A11
    @Matt_A11 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Excellent video, excellent editing. Great topic choice too. I love VGC history. Can't wait to see more of this kind of content. Keep it up Ray.

  • @aureliamastergoomba1278
    @aureliamastergoomba1278 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Dragonite in the thumbnail: I finally found it, now who’s gonna stop me?!

  • @jplopez253
    @jplopez253 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Fantastic vod from the 🐐

  • @YardiChef
    @YardiChef Před 4 měsíci +10

    Dragonite is a really decent mon and i think Gamefreak is waiting on the right time to give Dragonite AND Flygon some real love, I wish we'd get two forms for Dragonite, Physical and Special just like Basculegion and have them be dubbed as " Mystic Forms".

  • @waitingforthursday
    @waitingforthursday Před 4 měsíci +2

    yeah not gonna lie i was moved at that moment when BB champion sent out dragonite

  • @TheCrankyTechnician
    @TheCrankyTechnician Před 4 měsíci +1

    Glad to hear and see that the 1st ever pseudo legendary finally gets the treatment it deserves.
    Loved it ever since the Orange Islands finale when it swept through Ash's team.
    I'll never forget the moment when it launched at ultra high speed after Charizard; you knew that it was an absolute unit

  • @danielmaynard239
    @danielmaynard239 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I want to mention that Iron Thorns is one of my favorite Pokémon of gen 9

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you Daniel Maynard for telling us about your favorite Pokémon of Gen 9 🫡

    • @danielmaynard239
      @danielmaynard239 Před 4 měsíci

      @@pokezach494_ Actually Dudunsparce is my favorite Gen 9 Pokémon, and Iron Thorns is in second place

  • @gthedon__
    @gthedon__ Před 4 měsíci +4

    The vgc king is back

  • @Kamishuriken
    @Kamishuriken Před 4 měsíci +2

    I like Dragonite because it can be cute and cuddly but also strong and ferocious

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci +1

      It’s everything you’d want in a Pokémon for real

  • @godaelite
    @godaelite Před 4 měsíci +3

    This pokemon is special to people that have been playing since gen 1 like me. So great to see it winning.

  • @jacobcross9415
    @jacobcross9415 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great video! Love the editing!

  • @ProfDragonite
    @ProfDragonite Před 4 měsíci +2

    Been waiting for a video like this! I cannot tell you how happy I was when SV VGC gave mah boi it's time to shine!

  • @alexo5577
    @alexo5577 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Great video! Love to see Dragonite doing well now

  • @andrewkatz6649
    @andrewkatz6649 Před 4 měsíci +1

    16:22 Guess Arcanine is now a distant relative of Donphan😆

  • @Angelite1209
    @Angelite1209 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I have the American and Korean version of that DP Event Dragonite.

  • @flossdaily9
    @flossdaily9 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Dragonite getting no mega never made sense to me, but now i dont mind and am almost glad he didnt

  • @pummcrisp
    @pummcrisp Před 4 měsíci +3

    Dragonite the goat

  • @djmalic3
    @djmalic3 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Amazing video! Loved it 🎉

  • @Ashgrey0
    @Ashgrey0 Před 4 měsíci +2

    The editing is great in this one👍

  • @tstrashychannel7115
    @tstrashychannel7115 Před 4 měsíci +6

    if tera types are gonna leave next gen (which they probally will), i hope that they mayve give dragonite some regional form that is maybe normal dragon so it can atleast still use stab extreme speed

  • @SKdawg94
    @SKdawg94 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great video!! I would love to see more content like this from you 😁

  • @gladigatorrawr1480
    @gladigatorrawr1480 Před 4 měsíci +2

    A fair buff for outrage (and similar moves) would be for it to automatically target the opponent with higher hp . Still wouldn't be able to pick, but at least you'd have an idea of what would happen to plan ahead

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci +2

      That’s an interesting idea for sure… though this might make it even weaker in competitions because your opponent would always know which of their Pokémon it would target and could easily play around it

    • @CigaretteCrayon
      @CigaretteCrayon Před 4 měsíci

      It would ideally be the slot in front of the Pokémon, but it offers similar counterplay.

  • @shakeemnba4
    @shakeemnba4 Před 4 měsíci +4

    This my favorite Mon you the real MVP for this 💪🏾

  • @dantemayes1814
    @dantemayes1814 Před 4 měsíci +1

    finding out ray the rizz rizzo hhas a youtube channel is like finding out Michael Jordan just started as a personal trainer at my gym love it

  • @-THE-CHICKENMAN
    @-THE-CHICKENMAN Před 4 měsíci +2

    10:31 garchomp becomes fnaf

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hahaha yes!! You found him! I was wondering if anyone would

  • @andrewb.7917
    @andrewb.7917 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Very cool that Dragonite got its deserved glory. Cool series. Thanks for putting in the time and effort. I eat up VGC history haha

  • @Saku2897
    @Saku2897 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Ah man this video was so well made I love the no heatran zone reference!

  • @pokefriend123
    @pokefriend123 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Yeah yo Tera Normal Porygon-Z Hyper Beam will rule the world!

  • @ericguzman1191
    @ericguzman1191 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Great vid, how about history of empoleon? The penguin is a former world champ

    • @arininquotes8396
      @arininquotes8396 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Would love to see this style of video about some unusual world champion pokemon!

  • @reggz1358
    @reggz1358 Před 4 měsíci +1

    New king of Official Singles and has been since day 1 bss scarlet and violet

  • @Cala-us1fg
    @Cala-us1fg Před 4 měsíci +2

    Nice video! Dragonite won this weekend too :)

  • @elijones1007
    @elijones1007 Před 4 měsíci +2

    One of my favorite

  • @lavender3084
    @lavender3084 Před 4 měsíci +2

    another victory for the OG

  • @eSchoolpoke
    @eSchoolpoke Před 4 měsíci +2

    Amazing video!

  • @Ironhead6340
    @Ironhead6340 Před 4 měsíci +1

    They really made him the favorite, great video!

  • @twobrosgamers8426
    @twobrosgamers8426 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Dragonite is my fav dragon ever since I picked it up during my first jotho playthrough, glad its tearing up the meta to shreds now.

  • @snakexpert552
    @snakexpert552 Před 2 měsíci

    In gen 5 OU I had a rain team with a special attacking choice scarfed Dragonite with Thunder, Hurricane, and Draco Meteor. That thing was a monster I miss it so much.

  • @Sidorio
    @Sidorio Před 4 měsíci +1

    this was super interesting!

  • @johnpaulcross424
    @johnpaulcross424 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Who’s your thumbnail artist? They’re amazing!

  • @RoninCatholic
    @RoninCatholic Před 4 měsíci +7

    Dragonite has always been one of my favorites.

  • @mattgach1779
    @mattgach1779 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Good thing I majored in Unknown text in college. Consider me subbed

  • @silverhetch3383
    @silverhetch3383 Před 4 měsíci +1

    love the Pokemon Shuffle Icon

  • @rigoFGC1
    @rigoFGC1 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The way you said dragonite 💧😔🎯

  • @jamesw2831
    @jamesw2831 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Shows how GameFreak just don’t care about some Pokémon. But Dragonite has still thrived in Singles for nearly 30 years. Tera and Gen 9 has helped Dragonite

  • @kcbrosgamers
    @kcbrosgamers Před 4 měsíci +2

    Peak Dragonite Content

  • @baddragonite
    @baddragonite Před 4 měsíci +1

    Dragonite was always good
    People just didn't know how to appreciate it til lately
    I may be biased though

  • @MikeSkinnerAudio
    @MikeSkinnerAudio Před 4 měsíci +1

    the video editing is top notch stuff

  • @Jake-mf5sn
    @Jake-mf5sn Před 4 měsíci +1

    Never stood out to me before that he should have got a mega but never did, shame.

  • @TheGodJacobPicken
    @TheGodJacobPicken Před 4 měsíci +3

    Since when did the goat do youtube

  • @NickKBMusic
    @NickKBMusic Před 4 měsíci +1

    Love that tier list Unkown plug!!

  • @flossdaily9
    @flossdaily9 Před 4 měsíci +1

    one of the most iconic pokemon

  • @petrie911
    @petrie911 Před měsícem

    Despite being the first Pokemon to have it, Dragonite has been somewhat held back by its dragon type. It probably would have had more success as a Normal/Flying so it could get that juicy STAB on Extremespeed (or Hyper Beam in gen 1).

  • @pedrocapelas
    @pedrocapelas Před 4 měsíci +2

    Algorithm food

  • @lenningonzalez6611
    @lenningonzalez6611 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love this type of videos. Greetings from Germany

  • @JustJulyo
    @JustJulyo Před 4 měsíci

    You had me at Dratini

  • @joopvanhedel1372
    @joopvanhedel1372 Před 4 měsíci +2

    People always say Goodra is too cute for a Pseudo legendary firstly why is that a bad thing secondly Dragonite the first pseudo legendary ever is super cute ash's especially was adorable

  • @laravioliiii2832
    @laravioliiii2832 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Dragonite is perfection

  • @imn_fauler6098
    @imn_fauler6098 Před 4 měsíci +1

    One of pokemons greats

  • @kidmelo1994
    @kidmelo1994 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Dragonite Been good since gen 5!! Thanks to Multiscale..

  • @AWanderingSwordsman
    @AWanderingSwordsman Před 2 měsíci

    I got a soft spot for dragonite since he was on the first team I ever built (which was not that long ago, I started this gen). I actually remember looking at it seriously because I played emerald rogue and my strategy to beat the hardest challenge at the time was locking it to gen 1 and starting with dragonite and an ability capsule. I at least felt like I was one of the first to see how good it was in gen 9 with tera normal extreme speed although realistically I'm sure tons of people noticed it. Worked out much better than my other gimmick of ice tera baxcalibur with weakness policy next to ember talonflame. I feel silly now since virtually everyone seems to want to start with a side target weakness policy strat but oh well, at least I came up with it on my own. Climbed decently high up the ladder with it too (top like 180 in masterball tier). Good times. Now it's way too much of a pain to make another team with all the legendaries I'd have to get and train and change tera type of and ugh, I hope they make this shit way faster in gen 10.

  • @randomstudios3547
    @randomstudios3547 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You had me at yad

  • @june9914
    @june9914 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I’d like two see a vid about Hydreigon; I love my dark types

  • @NotOnQ
    @NotOnQ Před 4 měsíci +1

    How have I not been recommended ray's channel earlier? CZcams is slacking; google deepmind should've been on that.

  • @HaggisOfDeath
    @HaggisOfDeath Před 4 měsíci +1

    I don't get why special attack Dragonite was never used in rain comps. He gets thunder, he gets hurricane, (both get 100% accuracy in the rain and have gigantic damage numbers at 110 which are usually off-set by their low accuracy that is normally 70) he's also resistant to the typical counters that destroy flying types due to being a dragon. He might have a better attack stat than a special attack stat, but his special attack stat is better than most if not all flying pokemon, notably Zapdos who would be the typical thunder/hurricane user in a rain comp. Am I missing something here?

    • @basicallynothing9021
      @basicallynothing9021 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Dragonite only has base 100 SpA, and doesnt even get stab on those moves. Zapdos has dishcharge, and 125 special attack and gets stab on both thunder and hurricane

    • @HaggisOfDeath
      @HaggisOfDeath Před 4 měsíci

      @@basicallynothing9021 Ah I see I had scrolled down to the stats of Galerian Zapdos! I thought Zapdos only had 85 SpAtt. STAB is also important, you're right. However, from playing about with a special attack Dragonite prior to the Indigo Disk (where I had no Zapdos), I did find that it could 1 hit kill a LOT of stuff with super effective hits and it has a lot of coverage with potential for: hurricane, thunder, draco meteor, flamethrower, surf or tera-blast, and this was without me using tera for STAB boosts. Thanks for your clarification though, you're right that regular Zapdos is definitely better for the hurricane/thunder and I was mistaken! SpAtt Dragonite is still good though and is good for catching people off when they think you are going to tera normal and extreme speed.

  • @lucasbarbosarei
    @lucasbarbosarei Před 4 měsíci +1

    why don't people use sitrus berry + acrobatics? ( so that it doubles power + stab). This way, it's priority, strong as hell, and you can setup dragon dance with multiscale, maybe even having roost under your belt (to reset multiscale). And maybe Flying Tera...?

    • @pokezach494_
      @pokezach494_ Před 4 měsíci +2

      Mainly because there’s no easy way to guarantee the Sitrus Berry going off. You’d want a high-powered Acrobatics right out the gate, and not have it be something you have to set up, especially considering it’d be for just that move only (as opposed to something with Acrobatics+Unburden, for example)