Why The Belgian Pro League Is An Underrated Talent Factory!
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- Two years ago, we put out a video explaining the possibility of the Belgian Pro League and the Dutch Eredivisie merging, something that would have been named the BeNeLiga and had previously been experimented with in the domestic womens game and more recently in basketball.
The idea was, that in the face of European competitions becoming increasingly dominated by elite clubs from Spain, Germany, Italy, France and in particular England, that establishing a cross-border league could increase the quality of competition top Belgian and Dutch clubs face on a weekly basis, generate bigger television revenues and improve the overall standard of the domestic game, providing a more robust competition to rival those over the borders in Germany and France.
But while Belgian clubs voted in favour of exploring the possibility of a BeNeLiga in 2021, with then-Anderlecht manager Vincent Kompany one of its most prominent backers, their Dutch neighbours didn’t follow suit, and talk of a merger has since gone quiet. But Belgian clubs look stronger than they have done in years, at least in terms of performance in Europe.
Union Saint-Gilloise, who were still battling for promotion in the second tier at the time of the 2021 vote, have made the quarter-finals of the 2022-23 Europa League, while both Gent and Anderlecht have made the quarters of the Europa Conference League, with the latter beating a strong Villarreal side to get there. In fact, no country provided those competitions with more quarter-finalists this term than Belgium, pretty impressive given France have only provided one - Nice - across all three European tournaments, with Spain providing just two - Real Madrid and Sevilla.
And considering no Belgian side has reached the semis of any continental competition since the 1990s, it’s fair to say its domestic game is in good health right now, despite a poor showing at the Qatar World Cup suggesting otherwise. And while their national team’s golden generation of the 2010s has run its course, the Pro League continues to produce players who go on to achieve bigger things overseas.
So what is the secret to their success? On today’s EFD Explained, we’re going to find out..
00:00-01:54 Rise Of The Pro League
01:54-06:09 The Talent Factory
06:09-08:18 The Stepping Stone
08:18-End The Second Chance Saloon
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Finally someone who recognizes this league! Underrated for years
I mean the list of the last decade goes on and on Lukaku, De Bruyne, Courtois, Tielemans, Castagne, Sergey Milinkovic-savic, Osimhen, Ndidi, Trossard, Doku, Lavia, Sander Berge, Thorgan Hazard, Gomez, Praet, Leon Bailey, Joakim Maehle, Malinovsky, Kalidou Koulibaly, Aleksandar Mitrovic, Lokonga, Saelemaekers, Cheikhou Kouyate, Openda, Kossounou, Bacca, Meunier, Perisic, Jonathan David
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To be fair, as good as Lavia is, he never played first team football in Belgium. But for the rest, couldn't agree more!
@@waiteoscar17 Lavia is 19 he'll get his chance
The most of these are all from Genk .
You forgot one of the best, Yaya Touré, also Wout Faes and Arthur Theate are big talents
Waited 7 years for a video about the JPL 😅♥️
Your prayers were answered 😅
Holy shi-
find a hobby
The never make one of the JP league
You should also have mentioned Beveren and it’s link to Ivory Coast, with Yaya Touré, Gervinho and Emmanuel Eboué among others all going through the academy
I love you, finnally someone who doesnt dissrespect my club
Lol the dint come from the academy from Beveren 1 Year whit the b team and than the weree in the first team
Academie JMG, good times, great talents
Gervinho lol, haven't heard that name in 10years, that mf was so OP on fifa he had like 95 pace
Big thank you to speak about Belgian league.
i think you had to talk about other academy's around Belgium and not only Anderlecht's. Genk has a really good academy to. they got so many players that are now playing in some of the best leagues around Europe (KDB, Courtois etc...) and there are many good academy's in Belgium.
very underrated!!
great vid boys, the streets love the pro league
great timing! just got to Belgium for the first time today!
great video! thank you for shedding the light on a fantastic league. excited to see the young gems play at the euros
We are a very underrated producer of talents indeed imo , and with English teams buying or getting stakes in clubs here i think down the road it's only gonna get better for talents to develop here , Brighton and usg are the best example , and tho not being the best teams currently, i think it's a good thing , for example lommel sk can provide for man city , rwdm for crystal Palace , ohl for Leicester , Beerschot and even kv Kortrijk could have helped develop players for Sheffield United and Cardiff , pretty soon kv Oostende could become the richest club in the world alongside Newcastle, future of Belgian pro League is looking pretty imo
Only thing that sucks about our league is this stupid play-off system ...coming from a club Brugge supporter , usg deserved the title waaay more then us.... becoming the first club since fc kaiserslautern if i remember correctly to become champion in their first season back in top League...but no the play-offs had to be done 🙄😂😂
bro de play offs is een unieke touch aan onze league dit is iconisch en we hebben 6 verschillende winnaars in de laatste 8 jaar als ik het me goed herinner
@@Fenix-Felix 4
didn't say one thing about club brugge. they've been dominating the league for almost 10 years now..
Gaat over jeugdacademies, rsca domineert de league al langer dan 10 jaar op vlak van jeugdacademies...
This video should be named "how Anderlecht is un underrated Talent Factory!"
Other clubs are working hard and the fact that Club Brugge U23 team is way above Anderlecht's U23 in the second division says a lot.
Club Brugge have provided within a single year players being sold or to be sold for at least 10 millions €: Loïs Openda, De Ketelaere, Noa Lang, Bjorn Meijer, Tajon Buchanan and Ferran Jutgla. Arne Engels is powering up in Augsburg.
Genk got Khalidou Koulibaly, Sander Berge, Timothy Castagne, Ruslan Malinovskiy, Leandro Trossard, Wilfrid Ndidi, Sergei Milinkovic-Savic,Thibaut Courtois and Kevin De Bruyne and you've heard of Bilal El Khanouss at the WC 2022.
Gent got Jonathan David, Samuel Gigot, Kalinic.
Standard got Benteke (also Genk), Dante.
Actually, it's pretty nice talking about Belgium: they provide nearly no world-class players but still very decent ones, even for the top leagues.
Club Brugge U23 team is way above because they have another filosofy on that u23 team. They've also played in the second league before and were very very poor. RSCA does much better with more youth players in their first season. Yeah other academies in Belgium are very good and shouldve been mentioned more but rsca is still clear
According to me one of the reasons the Dutch never joined beneliga was because their teams will get hammered on a regular basis.
Amazing idea x
Nearly 10 minutes and 1 single mention of KRC Genk (for Ndidi of all players), nice mauve bias there. They produce both excellent academy players and buy great underrated foreign players for cheap every generation whilst being among the financially healthiest clubs in the league. The Champion's League would literally not be the same without Genk players, can the same be said about Anderlecht?
Also my reaction, no mentions for the academy of KRC Genk or the great UCL run of Club Brugge, thats how europe looks at Belgium, they only see Anderlecht, a club that is in the mid tier of belgian football for more then 10 years
@@lennert48 "a club that is in the mid tier of belgian football for more than 10 years" now you're showing your OWN bias. They won the league 3 times in the last 10 years and only finished outside the top 6 twice as wel. Club Brugge is the only team that is more succesful in the last 10 years.
I mean about the video is nothing wrong, he says anderlechts academy is the best cause lots of players from their academy makes it in the belgium squad. while we all know Genk's academy is as good as anderlechts. I think the problem is more that most people in the belgium bond are very anderlecht bias, how no one of genk got chosen to the world cup, and so on.
He shouldve mentioned Genk but they're still not as good as RSCA.
@@wannesdebock9300 How so? The video is about the Pro League as a talent factory and in recent times ex players from Genk have been at least as impactful in European football as Anderlecht's. For every Kompany and Lukaku there's a Courtois, KDB or Malinovsky.
Absolutely true! And there is new talent popping up every year.
Good list 👍
Kompany’s talent ID is that good that I’m sure he’ll continue to recruit from the Belgian league whilst Burnley are in the Prem
good vid
Nice vid. Sad you didn't mention Jonathan David tho
Aren't Belgian and Dutch clubs run very differently? From my outside and observation I feel like the Dutch clubs in general are very close to their local community, pretty conservative and doesn't sell out. They fill their squads with mainly domestic players and give inexperienced players many chances to prove themselves. While the Belgian clubs are much more likely to sell out to foreign capital, fill their squads with a lot of foreign players, take bigger risks in the transfer market and disregard new signings after their first mistake.
Yet the clubs from these countries receive similar results and talent output. Fascinating. But I can understand why Dutch clubs are reluctant to plans of a joint league with the Belgian clubs. In my country Sweden the Eredivisie is seen as a fantastic stepping stone for talented players while the Pro League is seen as a career killer where an injury or manager change is enough for a player to no longer be treated as a human being.
From the annual UEFA benchmarking reports "The European club footballing landscape" one can also note that the revenue mix for clubs in the two leagues differ somewhat, where Belgian clubs have a significant portion of subsidies/donations compared to the Eredivisie. So my conclusion is that the Eredivisie will be stable in the long run with its self-sustainability while the Belgian clubs are much more dependent on keeping hitting the jackpots in the transfer markets to keep external investors positive and keep investing.
The reason is that the minimum wage for non EU players in Belgium is a lot lower than in the Netherlands, so it's a lot cheaper to just import players from out of Europe
at the moment everything is going right for belgian clubs bcus the scouting network is just amazing... its not accidentally that these guys are being bought for 2-5 million and sold for 20+mil
your comment about the Belgian league is not entirely correct.
You cannot compare the Dutch and Belgian leagues
The Dutch league is more focused on attacks.
The Belgian is much more physical and tactical.
You say the pro league is a career killer.
if you're not good enough you don't play it's that simple
If you belong to the better players of the league you always make a good transfer like Oshimen,Koulibaly,David,Milinković-Savić,Mitrović, Perisic, Yaya Toure, De Bruyne,Ndidi, Courtois,Lukaku,Kompany they all played in Belgium
If you don't count Ajax, there is much more talent from the Belgian league than from the Dutch league
Career killer? The Belgian league is consistently the league where you talent get the most game time.
@@kwintendebruyn3738 "If you don't count Ajax, there is much more talent from the Belgian league than from the Dutch league" Dunno about that mate. Yesterday a list of the youngest 20 teams in top20 competitions got released and in it 3 out of the 20 were Belgium teams where as from the Netherlands 7 clubs made the list. And obviously just because they have a young average age it doesnt mean they are all insanely talented. But Alkmaar's youth academy is probably the best right now from both countries which finally made international headlines as well easily winning the youth champions league beating the likes of Real,Barca,Sporting etc. In the netherlands you see much more Dutch players get developed from early age whereas Belgium seems to have more of a focus on foreign talent like a Beveren with a strong link to Ivorian talent.
I think you could make an interesting video on the new era of football the Norwegian national team is entering. Stars like Haaland and Ødegaard, and young talents playing for big european sides like Benfica, Dortmund and Napoli. Hopefully we can start qualifying for the first tournaments in 20 years.
Also Nusa from Bruges
Very interesting
This really looks like a Anderlecht show in this video, as a belgian myself i can tell you all that Anderlecht hasnt had this impact like they show in this video, the only reason why Anderlecht had so many players in the world cup is the friendship between Kompany and Martinez, and look what it brought us. Club Brugge had more impact on the league in the last 8 years then all other clubs combined, sadly this video doesnt show that at all. Foreigners only look at Anderlecht and they dont look at other clubs. KRC Genk is as an academy the best you can have in Belgium (De Bruyne, Praet, etc). I would highly suggest to mention the other facts aswell. Sorry but it is the truth.
Friendship with kompany was why there were more rsca players? LOL
Kompany is gone and so is the trainer, let’s see how he did it:
Bornauw, Debast, faes, saekemaekers, onana, mangala, lavia, lukaku, Lukebakio, Bakayoko are from rsca youth… in last interland.
Dedoncker, denayer, Tielemans, januzaj, doku and Batshuayi weren’t there but played recently for the Red Devils too all also rsca youth and several will play again, like doku as he was injured and Tielemans idem.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but don’t claim rsca isn’t as important for the squad…
Fc B had more impact on the league, yes, but not on the Red Devils or successful players elsewhere coming from them.
@@daviddieudonne7829 There are important ofcourse but not as important as the guy says. Bornauw, Debast, Mangala, Bakayoko, Denayer shouldnt even been called up for the national team. Sorry to say that
@@lennert48 lol, shows you re biased. We’ll see, but Debast will go to a bigger club and will keep on growing, he’s got a very bright future. And Baka too. Both still very young… 19 and 20.
Players that have no spot in the team are players that have no spot in theirs, like Charles de ketelaere. Clearly not the level to go above the Belgian league. Also, mangala is soooo much better than vanaken, plays forward and has character, unlike vanaken.
We’ll see, but after the first 2 games cdk showed he has no added value, just like in Milan. Mangala was very nice and his plays gave a goal. And Debast is clearly the future rock of the defense.
If you’re to biased to see that, you’re an idiot. 19 and already a lot of experience and quality. Him and the keeper are the reason rsca went so far in the conference league and we’re the only ones on level.
Bornauw has some way to go and denayer I agree.
Im an Anderlecht fan and its been hard lmao but still our academy is really strong and even with this extremely bad season we have players that are on the wishlists of big clubs.
The Portuguese league would also be a worthy shout
Genk Academy and scouting is on Brighton level
Good video but maybe you should have mentioned jonathan david?
Lol barely any mention of Club Brugge, AA Gent or KRC Genk (Courtois,De Bruyne ring a bell ?) Surface level video barely any depth except for Anderlecht
I think the JPL is really good for the limited budget they have, really underrated. I mean just look at Anderlecht, they won more European trophies than Manchester City😂
Please do a video on the league of Ireland
I think the J-League would be a good video. Japans footballing rise over the last 30 years has been remarkable!
Video was alright.
It certainly is obvious from this vid that you haven't watched a game ever and you only talked about the 'bigger' teams like Anderlecht who's academy is nothing better than Cercle Bruges, Gent's or Genk's academy. Anderlecht placed 11th this season and fell off hard the last decade.
Genk is easily a more important club these days for the national squad and natioan youth squads compared to Anderlecht looking at KDB, Courtois, Casteels, Carrasco, Castagne, Trossard and the U15 until U21 is full of Genk players but you choose to talk only about Anderlecht. Mertens played only a couple years in Anderlecht youth until U18 and was then found too tiny for them and got send away so Anderlecht should NEVER get credit for him.
Belgian league is way harder to succeed in as a player compared to the Eredivisie.
Rather had someone who actually followed the league even a bit make a video about it, because Wikipedia does not tell you the whole story as you can see.
Bornauw, Debast, faes, saekemaekers, onana, mangala, lavia, lukaku, Lukebakio, Bakayoko are from rsca youth… in last interland.
Dedoncker, denayer, Tielemans, januzaj, doku and Batshuayi weren’t there but played recently for the Red Devils too all also rsca youth.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but don’t claim rsca isn’t as important for the squad…
But yeah, he somehow focused on rsca.
@@daviddieudonne7829 Most of those players left Anderlecht before age 18 and before making their senior debut for Anderlecht which happens a lot since foreign teams keep a close eye on Anderlecht. Not saying Anderlecht is not one of the best youth academy and despite results one of the most decorated clubs in Belgium. Yet they've been doing woeful for some time now and I was frustrated by how hard he focused on Anderlecht because they have lots of players in the national squad while the video is about the league and not even our national squad. Cercle Brugge's youth academy for example isn't worse then Genk or Anderlecht theirs.
This is what you get when you base your whole video on Wikipedia research
@@tristanlwkns Anderlecht academy are so much better then the rest and everyone know that only genk comes close
@@ibendesimpelaere7512 Because they 'steal' the bigger talents from most of the less bigger clubs at a young age and we see change in that now because the 1st team is doing awful in the JPL. I'd say there's definitely not less or even more chance to reach your full potential and stability at youth clubs like Club Brugge, Standard, Gent or Genk. Youth clubs like Antwerp or OHL always had a very good name as well. I would definitely not say Anderlecht is that far off from most of these teams, look at Cercle and how much youngsters they fit into the 1st team and they have incredible statistics while no one would even think about them having a very solid youth academy but they absolutely do and that's also very important for our competition.
Next star is Arthur Vermeeren from Antwerp
How about an Explained about the Polish league? There's rarely any talk about it.
Weird you didnt mention Genk🤔
Pity to focus so much on only Anderlecht and not on other Belgian clubs, which also have good youth academies. also something important you forgot to mention, Kindermans will not be with Anderlecht for long. He is still in his notice because RSCA considers his expensive contract no longer marketable.
3 Belgian clubs in quarterfinals of European competitions this year?
They are only behind Italy with 6 clubs. In Champions League, 2 Milan clubs are fighting for the one spot in Istanbul.
In Europa League, Juventus and Roma will likely play in Budapest.
rip bruges prestation in the champions league
It is a shame they never did combine the Dutch and Belgian leagues together, it would have been incredible
No!
Morocco does not have most non EU players on Belgium. It's Japan.
I've been saying this the last couple years
No clue why Amadou Onana didn’t chose Senegal they’re a force.
6:56 well Vitesse were being funded by Roman Abramovich so not quite the same 😂
I thought Genk has the best academy, with a number of belgian golden generation came from Genk's academy
Genk provide the best players but they only become champion once every four or five years as they have to rebuild each year: their teams depend each year mainly on 1 or two players.
Together with Anderlecht they do have the best academy. Sad to see he didn't even mention Genk. Feels poorly researched
I would like an explained on the J league it's has massive talent 👏 👌
what about Japan football, u have 3 or 4 at Celtic and Mitoma at Brighton.
We did exactly that a couple months ago! Check out the playlist!
Anderlecht fanboy
Wait Brussels is majority foreign dang
Thats why most Belgians don’t like to go to Brussel, because you only see foreigners 😂
BeNe League would be great.
I mean there was a bit more to Noa Lang getting let go....
?
They have khannous now 18 years best player in the league play for genk the future de Bruyne
Old Anderlecht player 😂
He is incredibly overrated. His stats are very poor too
They could just keep all these players to win the UCL et cetera.
that really hard for a team in belgium bc we dont have the money to do that like other big clubs.
it could be better get rid of the play of system.
I like how you say “dominated especially by British”.While British have one 2wice since Bayerns 2012-13 treble winning. (Chelsea n Liverpool) This should be only n only given to Spain. Not Britain
Should we not use spain, and instead say madrid?
just make fckng video about anderlecht then, and forget about the performance of Bruges in the CL.
Anderlecht has good youth, sentence finished. They didn't even get play-offs this year.
Krc Genk ???? best talent factory of belgium
So why is Charles De Ketelaere so bad?
Bruges meme. They fell for the Bruges meme.
Ehhh. An almost 10 minute video, talking about Anderlecht for half of it, and only ONE mention of Genk? How ridiculous is that?! Genk are as important to the Belgian league's talents as are Anderlecht, and perhaps even more so in recent years. We haven't provided the most talents maybe, but quality over quantity, see Kevin De Bruyne, Courtois, Casteels, Trossard, Carrasco, Castagne, Benteke... and then you have talents coming through such as Ndidi, Koulibaly, Milinkovic-Savic, Berge, Bailey, Mæhle, Malinovskyi....... And many more. I was excited for a video about the JPL, but this feels poorly researched.
Genkies 4 ever!
MURILLOOOOO
How come Anderlecht gets so much attention, they only have the racist Lukaku who is any 'good' at the moment. Good at making penalty goals at least.
Not a single mention about Genk, while they have the best academy at the moment. Best midfielder and best goalkeeper in the world are Genk products. De Bruyne and Courtois. Also not a single mention about Trossard? |
Very biased and uninformed EFD!
JPL is so trash, players stay there for 6months and leave. Check their league systeme its so bad
Very bad take, coming from someone who probably doesn't know anything about the history and has never watched a JPL game in their lifetime.
J league is underrated bro
I compare it to leagues of its standart like the portuguese. Less budget but more entertaining and competitif then belgish league wit an american system. Players from erdevise go there for a tryout lmao. They couldn‘t compete with 2nd Bundeslinga honestly. St Gilleois is an exception this year otherwise there is only Anderlecht (who are not the same since 2017). Only players that are know are KDB played 1 year at Genk, Lukaka played 1 year for Anderlecht and what next Trossard like no JPL is helll a trash
@@ynohj.uchia10 de bruyne playde 5 years in the belgium top league 2008>2012.
lukaku played there for 3 years 2009>2011.
They also had players like; koulibaly, jonatan david, victor osimhen, ...
So they have one of the best developments in the world
@@ynohj.uchia10Have you ever watched the jupiler pro league? its one of the most competitive leagues in Europe. I guess you haven't when i read your comment
Why is mitoma on the thumbnail, he was only in the jpl on loan for one year, its not like he was a youth player there
But helps to sell its rethoric...
He used the pro league as a stepping stone, as said in the video
The chapter is called 'the stepping stone' and Brighton use USG as a stepping stone for potential premier league prospects