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- www.PingSkills.com - There are so many options available when choosing a table tennis bat that it becomes very confusing. Alois and Jeff break through all the details to give you a simple overview of the different types of bats, and which one you should be using depending upon your level.
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Thanks for watching! We have a whole series of videos on choosing table tennis equipment on our website: www.pingskills.com/tutorials/choosing-equipment
Enjoy!
PingSkills i train about 4 months twice a week and i have joola carbon pro is that racket good for me?
PingSkills best
this is the best duo ever
What about oversized blade? Please give me a review about it. I am planning to buy Stiga Clipper WRB Oversize blade. Will it be a good decision?
Can you put a rubber on top of another rubber
"Quality of the rubber on the wood". This game is full of innuendos.
Umar AlFarooq lol was gonna write this but saw you already had
My god
Always remember the quality of the rubber touching the balls.
Uggggh, here's your upvote. Now get out of here.
"Even the best rubbers will wear out." - Relatable.
I USED UR TIPS AND I WON A STATE TORNAMENT COMING TO NATIONALS!!!'
Broken Broz Congratulations!
thanks
Nice!
R u in Australia
Life,s Good I am. I live in Sydney
"Use quality rubbers" That´s what she said..
Bruhhh
Oh come on
😂😂👊
Oof
Lol
Thank for your teaching.I can control the ball more better than before.
Hi Jason Wong,
You can buy bats from the PingSkills website.
Thanks ping skills! Played with my first beginners bat for about a year and improved a lot, feel like this advice helped me a lot
Great to hear. Keep enjoying this great game!
Hi Another Cuber, I've never used the Nittaku Japan Original Shake or the Stag Power Drive Plus. Maybe some other people can help you out. You could also ask a question using the ask the coach section of the PingSkills website and we could open it up to other PingSkillers to see if they have any feedback for you.
Hello Alois and Jeff !! You guys rule. I have learnt everything about TT from you guys and I believe I am slowly moving on to the intermediate level. I recently got a new DHS Professional Quick Attack X series Carbon TT racket.
I got the feel of the racket within a week and a half.
Its slow enough for me to not lose control and fast enough to attack consistently. The rubber on both side is good. The most significant improvement that I am seeing in my game is the increased consistency in my backhand topspin against backspin.
Previously, even after getting to the level of the ball and starting the racket from knee height, I was not totally comfortable in hitting the ball when it had considerable backspin and took to chopping instead, which I particularly hate. But this new racket grips the spin so well and never lets me down provided body position, wrist movement etc. is decent.
I would like to see guys do a "Who is the best in which shot among Ma Long, Zhange Jike and Fan Zhendong", with analysis of the techniques.
Lastly the passion with which you people talk about TT is infectious. You guys simply rock !!
+Sinchan Pathak Thanks so much for the kind words. It's nice we've been able to help you. And congratulations on your improvement. Keep up the good work and I'm sure you'll keep improving!
I'm three years into my table tennis journey now, and I do feel as though I've finally got the right combination of bat and rubbers. It took quite a few hit and miss trials with different rubbers to get there - I think maybe new players need to be fairly patient with the process because you have to find what feels right for you. Even the best coaches can't actually know what feels right for you. As a local league player who likes to mix defence and attack, with plenty of spinny loops, I've ended up plumping for the Hurricane 3 on both sides. I love its control and looping spin, plus I can still get plenty of pace in my top spins when I want, even though it isn't the fastest rubber. Thanks for the great videos.
Thanks for sharing your experiences regarding your equipment. Good luck with your table tennis.
Thank you so much to both Coach.. i started off young playing table tennis with my dad.. but then stopped at 20, now i turned 40 this year, wanting to start again.. hope i can, thank you for this video…
Thank you for this very helpful advice, guys. It really helped me to choose the bat that's best for me personally. I'm not really an aggressive player. I focus more on spin, ball placement around the edges and strategy in terms of drawing the opponent out of position and exploiting their errors. I found that having to adapt to whatever bats are supplied is unhelpful and i knew that to take my game to the next level, i would need to invest in my own bat and bring it everywhere in order to build my consistency. Furthermore, i also felt that playing with supplied (cheap) balls was creating bad habits. The prices of various bats ranged from AUD$25-$100, but i didn't focus on the price. I went with what felt right in my hand in terms of weight, and narrowed it down to 2 bats and them used guide to determine which one would suit my style the best. It is a Donic Waldner 700 and the guide has the attack at 90, the spin at 80, & the control at 70. Price was AUD$45, and i got some 3* balls while i was at it.
As i'm finding my consistency, i'm really starting to become more solid as a player and even less predictable, which can only be good. I had also recognized that my topspin was my weakness, and that's what i'm really working on now. I'm so happy with new bat and i certainly feel like i've made the right choice with it. Again, i cannot thank you guys enough!. Your advice was most helpful!! :)
Congratulations on getting your new bat Matty King. It's great to hear your progress and good luck with your table tennis for the future.
Thanks very much, guys. I felt like i was being held back in a sense, but since i've been using this bat, my topspin technique is really improving. I feel like i've got a lot better control as well in terms of ball placement. I understand i'm only at the pre-made stage, but hopefully once i've got my topspin down-pat, i can look towards getting a custom. I was just wondering what you guys thought in terms of this particular bat, but you're probably different players to me anyway. In any case, thanks again. :) Cheers.
Matty King I haven't used that particular bat but Donic is a good brand. It sounds like a good choice for your first pre-made bat. I'm sure over time you will be looking at a custom bat but keep on working hard and enjoying your table tennis in the mean time. Best of luck!
Thanks guys. :) Cheers.
The Palio Expert 2 is a great bat for beginners. I was recommended it by my tabletennis coach. It's got great rubbers, a decent blade - and it's far superior to the majority of bats you find in sports shops.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
tbh, the palio expert, master and legend range is quite good. i'm about to get a palio legend 3 for christmas. hoping for the best.
It is interesting that you mentioned "Butterfly Sriver" and "Yasaka Mark V". When I was playing in the 1970s and 80s they were two of the fastest rubbers on the market and were recommended for advanced attacking players. My Dad was a coach and had a variety of bats ranging from Mark V right down to an ultra slow anti-loop rubber called "Toni Hold". I have still got them in my loft. When I was a Junior learner I used Butterfly;s "All-Round D-13" and when I gained a bit more confidence, I upgraded to "Super Sriver" which was slightly slower than Sriver but had more control. Times must have changed a bit since then !
Thanks for sharing your story. It certainly is interesting to hear about how things used to be and how things have changed.
The ball has changed a bit since then )) it's got much slower.
You are the best channel! I found every answer for every question in my mind. Thank you.
You're welcome. I'm glad you are finding our videos useful.
This was helpful. I was about the buy the no sponge bat for my school tournament.
I'm glad it helped.
Those things are toys haha
First I want to say I thoroughly enjoy your videos. They're very informative and easy to follow. Since I'm relatively new to the sport I just have a simple question. Since you had mentioned the blade accounts for 10-20% of performance, would I be able to keep blade when it is time for me to advance to a new rubber; or would it be best for me to upgrade both?
Depending on what blade you have now you certainly can keep the same blade. On a pre-made bat the rubber is hard to take off but you certainly can keep the blade. Most people generally buy a new blade when they first upgrade to a custom bat and then keep that same blade for a number of years.
please do a video on standard types of rubbers and their peculiar features like you talked about mach 5 !! that will be very helpful !! :D
Mark V
VERY VERY HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Hi Sunil Rana Magar,
The most important part of the bat is the rubber. The blade is less important but does affect the speed. That's why we recommend an all round blade for most players and then you can adjust the speed by getting different rubbers. Of course some people like slower blades and some people like faster blades.
Hi, love your videos, I'm just wondering how the rating system works, so like when an intermediate level player has like 2000 points, how do they gain/lose points.
Oh and what is your opinion on the dhs a5002, from what I hear, its quite heavy and slows you down. Anyways thanks!
Hi Mrinal Chauhan,
I wouldn't make the weight the first thing to consider but you do want a bat that feels comfortable for you when playing. Generally speaking, weight is not a big issue when choosing a bat.
hey i have heard that there are certain types of bats but they are 1 star 2 star 3 star and goes all the way up to 5 please tell me what this means???
+Omar M Idrissi These sound like how they might grade pre-made bats. I don't pay too much attention to these ratings as they are just made up by the company making the bat as a marketing tool. For some recommendations check out the bats on the PingSkills website store. These are bats we recommend but there are lots of good choices available.
+Jeff Plumb Thanks alot
Can you please tell me if my bat is good? It is a pre made revolution 6500 Dunlop bat.
+Gaming It's probably OK for a very short time. I haven't used it myself but I imagine that the rubbers won't last too long and then you'll need to try something else. It's important to be able to generate spin to keep developing.
Informative series.
Returning to the sport after a lengthy absence. My partner bought me a Yinhe T4S blade along with Yinhe 'Moon Max Tense' rubbers....which seem fine to me...so far.
Great to hear. Welcome back to the sport :)
I am using a cornileau out door bat atm, love it!
I would also recommend 729 and DHS hurricane 3 rubbers for entry level custom made bats - as they are easy to control and at the same time durable.
@Danny Edwardo Actually there are some philosophies that suggest you to use harder rubber with flexible blade to learn spin.
Hi Tarun Telang,
I don't know. I haven't ever seen the ITTFA mark? To be a legal rubber to use in an official ITTF competition, the rubber must have the ITTF logo on it.
***** You're welcome.
PingSkills hi i use a stiga pro carbon is that a good bat for a amature whos been playing for 2 and a half years at my school or should i use the new stiga titan?
Frostgaming Frosty I'm not really an equipment expert but the carbon does sound like a fast blade. I'd probably recommend a more all round type blade myself. Something like the Stiga All Round classic or the PingSkills Touch :)
Yay my paddle is good
PingSkills
I want to buy the original table tennis bat , but here in Pakistan only local bat are available, please can u tell me from where i buy the original bat which are using by professional players , thanks
Great vid man.
Looking forward on buying your paddle.
Thanks. I'm glad it helped.
After consistency of keeping the ball on table (defensive type game) and watching this video I bought a Giant Dragon bat with 88 Speed, 82 Spin and 55 Control though I was looking for a better bat this one. But this was the best available here in local market 😂.
It took me 3 days to adjust myself with new bat but now I'm quite comfortable. I got better control and moved to aggressive games, even started forehand smashes.
Thanks @PingSkills.
Great to hear. Keep up the good work!
Hello +PingSkills!
I have some trouble choosing a bat...
Im an offensive player that likes to have control and spin on the ball.
Can you recomend anything?
I like killerspin, stiga, yasaka bats!
Remember, rubbers wear out remember to replace them from time to time.
Good advice *****
After how many months we need to change rubber
@@pirateworks3423 it depends on how much you play and it's different for each rubber. For example, I have my fxp 1 year and through this year I have changed my els twice. It mostly depends on you, when you feel it doesn't do the work well, it needs change.
I can do spins and smash I am buying new bat when I searched online in amazon it shows stag company rackets showing 4start 5 star I am getting confused plz help
@@pirateworks3423 never buy rackets like that if you want a good pre made racket then I suggest stiga evolution or stiga pro carbon
Great video Jeff and Alois
Thanks!
You also can start to develop a half stroke when you have a really good racket with lots of grip and sponge because it takes your opponents spin and reverses it. When I used a racket with less sponge and less grip, I had this long swing just so I could get appropriate amount of spin on the ball ... so I would say its not all negative to have less grip. The problem with a racket that has a thin sponge and less grip was that it was really hard to block topspins.
Thanks for the clear explanation.. What is the difference between 3 star, 4 star and 5 star bats ??
I'd say not a lot. If the bats have ratings like this they are probably the fairly basic pre-made bats and the ratings are just marketing tactics by the companies.
@@pingskills That's something we need to spread awareness towards
Alois is just amazing
Dear PingSkills, I have been playing for about half a year and thanks to your videos I have learned my fundamentals. I am currently using a paddle that I bought at a sports store near me, but the rubber is dead. Could you please recommend a good custom paddle? Thanks.
We sell the PingSkills Touch with Mark V which would be a good option. :) The stiga all round classic with Mark V would also be good. Another option would be the Butterfly Primorac OFF- with Sriver.
Let us know what you choose. It's always exciting to get new equipment. If you have any other questions let us know. You can also ask questions on the PingSkills website using the "ask the coach" section.
I'm glad you've been finding our lessons helpful. Keep up the good work!
Hey,great videos keep it up
just want to ask if you can do how to build your racket
Thanks. Here's a video showing you how to replace a rubber - www.pingskills.com/table-tennis/equipment-lessons/replacing-your-rubber/
+pingskills
I just bought a new racket. It's called
Donic Waldner 900 racket
Awesome, it's great getting new equipment!
Very helpful guys 😀
Thanks Jordo
I went to a specialized shop where they assembled a bat for me, based on the fact that I was a relative beginner with a preference for attack. After a year I bought another one which is exactly the same. I want to stick with these for at least 2 years or until I find that my technique cannot be improved (not perfect technique but touching my borders of potential to improve). And then I might try making a leap with better gear. Is this a viable plan?
I find that many enthusiastic amateurs expect too much impact from changing gear. So I fully agree with the second part of your video.
That sounds good to me. As we mention in the video, once you are playing full strokes consistently then you can think about going to a faster rubber.
We played many a good match roughly age 12... Gosh how times flies Alois.
Great to see you're still involved with the game. 😎
*** unsure why this appeared on my feed, great it did.
Thinking of my old bat at the time we played....was a Stiga Johannson (spelling?) Mark v (2.5mm) & unsure what was on my backhand. It changed often.
Yes that was a popular bat at the time. Played a lot of matches in those early years at the tournaments and Junior pennant on a Saturday morning.
@@PingSkillsFrench I totally forgot about junior pennant, seems so long ago. However, pennant (Monday night perhaps), I recall fairly well.
Thanks.. i love your show.. and easy to understand
stiga vaporizer 5* , ive been using this for 2months and i love it .. im buying a new Stiga vaporizer 5* asap .. so if u need something good for kinda cheap buy stiga vaporizer ! :-)
Where can I buy a racket from your shop? Is it like online or smth?
This is a gold mine
Q: “How often should I change the rubber”
A: “After every shot boyo, after every shot”
😂
Please Ping Skills
show more videos with information for penhold players.
Thanks
We'll see if we can do some more in the future. If you search for PingSkills penhold techniques you'll find what we have today.
Damn this video was soo helpful!
Glad you liked it!
do pros always use really fast rubbers or do some also use the softer ones for more control?
Unless they are defensive players, they top 100 in the world will al be using really fast rubbers. However not everyone should start with fast rubbers and it's hard to learn the correct techniques for your strokes if you can't control the ball.
@@pingskills i started with a kinda slow rubber after 1 or 2 months i want something faster i can tell i could control more
I love the format of the video
I'm glad you liked it.
The 2nd guys face 😂. When he said "the wood and the rubber" @7:50
I'm a really good backhand topspin player and I have loads of tournaments coming up
Can you recommend some good bats specific for backhand?
Thanks
Craze ZR Hurricane 2, I’m pretty much the same as you and I use the hurricane 2 so I would recommend that, though it is quite expensive
Good to hear. I would use a rubber that enhances your topspin. Something like Xiom Vega Pro or Tenergy 05.
@@pingskills thanks so much
I watch nearly all your videos:)
how is the zjk super zlc can you do a review i am planning to purchase one
Wow that's a quick reply. Im amazed. I currently own Donic waldner 800 and play 15-30 mins in office that to 2-3 days a week
+Sahib Matharu You caught me at a good time :)
It sounds like a perfect bat for that. The rubbers will lose grip over time though and need to be replaced. That's why as players join table tennis clubs and play even more often they tend to go for a custom bat.
Do you find it good and are you able to get some good spin on your serves and some topspin on your forehand?
I pretty satisfied with the results. I get good spins while service, however i find it difficult to produce topspin in forehand considering my tenure with sports is not much. The bat is great for the money i paid.
+Sahib Matharu Excellent. See if you can get someone in the office to help you practice the forehand topspin. The main thing is to get the start and finish positions correct. Watch our video on the forehand topspin (you can find it on the PingSkills website under Lessons -> Strokes & Techniques). If you get those right the rest of the stroke will start to fall into place. Good luck!
Hey thanks for your vids love them I play at my school with my friends, we played for 2 years. We use ready Butterfly rackets of the Timo Boll, Michael Maze series. How are them?
These sound like reasonable bats to start with. If you've played with them for 2 years then the rubbers have probably worn out so you should consider getting new rubbers for them. Something like Mark V or Sriver is a good option. Or you could buy a new pre-made bat.
mine is 8 years old. it's time to upgrade 😂
@Forget It what about 2 days thats mine
czcams.com/video/sBQpOAkPW0k/video.html
Mine is 38 y.o. (chinese double fish 1982) and it‘s just fine. Lots of spin
Thanks, you guys are awesome.
+Roman Odhako No worries, you're welcome :)
Thanks for sharing this! I've watched this 2nd time. One thing not mentioned here is the thickness of the rubber, although it's mentioned elsewhere. My question is what is the "optimal" thickness and if both sides have same or different thickness and if so what is your recommendation for both sides? Roman
Roman Adar Again, it really is personal preference. For the pre-made bats you don't get a choice but for your first custom bat I'd say 2mm.
Cheers,
Jeff.
PingSkills I greatly appreciate it. Roman
Hi PingSkills, the video was exactly what i was looking for. So thanks a lot.
I've been learning and playing Table Tennis on my own for about 5 months. I play everyday and i use a Pre Made bat, so i think is time to get a Custom Bat.
Now my answer is, if i buy an inexpensive rubber and blade (about 70 dollars in Xushaofa rubbers and blade), does it worth? i mean, it is enough better than the pre made bat? or i should buy some more expensive equipment?
Thanks again and greetings from Chile ;)
Hi Pablo,
The pre made rubbers will wear out over time so you do need to change at some stage. As you get better I definitely think it's worth upgrading.
Keep up the good work with your table tennis.
Weena compare
The wood has 10-20% value until a certain point in your table tennis level. Once you cross that level, there is a definite need for some extra help from the wood to help finish the points. Carbon is essential once a person starts to play in leagues and can't simply just outlast the opponent. There is a need for winning shots after that.
Hello guys, I would like to know your opinion on the famous Butterfly Sriver rubber. Is it overrated? Or it is actually a great rubber option as first or second custom-made racket?
I think it's a really good rubber for a first and second custom made racket. When speed glue was legal I actually used it as my preferred rubber.
Thank you for your answer!
You're welcome.
+PingSkills i have been playing for a year now. I have been using joola flame extreme and rhyzm p on both sides, but i feel there is something better for me. I have a really strong spinny fh loop. I play around six feet away from the table. Ive heard the timo boll spirit is good, but is their something you recomend? Preferably under 150 us dollars.
THANK YOU ...YOU BOTH GIVE GREAT ADVICES...!!
You're welcome :)
Today I got my Ping skills bat and It looks really good. Still I have not tried it but I will
Excellent. Let me know how you like it after you've played with it for a while.
+PingSkills I finally tried my Ping skills touch. At first it was hard to control the rubber but some hours later I got more balls on the table. Still some balls are going out. Really good blade, rubber and the combination of it. Good job!
Great to hear. The more you use it the more you will get used to the speed and spin. Keep enjoying your table tennis!
Dima Shevchenko how much is the price
Its good that I'm poor that I can't just change the custom rubber every week ahaha
Isn't it kinda difficult to do
I just had the company assembled it
hey _voidz_
friendship 729 fx is a cheap and out of the age rubber. it's out of the 70's or 80's. Nevertheless the top sheet (rubber) is of good and long lasting quality, especially if your playing outside. For learning it is not good, because of the sponge.
You can get now 729 fx lightning oder super soft, with a lot better sponge to practice the technics. in your case I would recommend the lightning with a thicker sponge, that you used with the regular or old fx, which aren't much more expensive.
Very Helpful Video, Love it!
how much The PingSkill's racket cost, anyway?
You can find the latest information on the PingSkills bats at www.pingskills.com/table-tennis-store/
If you have an ok pre-made bat and if the blade has such little significance, could you use a pre made blade and once the rubber dies, could you buy new rubbers for that blade?
Hi Joshua Gold,
You certainly can do that. The trick is getting the initial rubbers of the blade as with pre-made bats they glue them on with really strong glue. It takes a bit of effort but once you do you certainly can use the blade. We have done that with some of our pre-made bats for players before and it works quite well.
PingSkills Cheers for the speedy reply, only had my current bat for the last 2 months and thats when I first played but am loving it. :)
Joshua Gold Good to hear.
+PingSkills What do you mean by "getting the initial rubbers of the blade". I have the racket at 2:21 and I've been using it for about 3 months and I think it is wearing out a little bit.
DuskGlade he is saying it is hard to get the worn out rubbers off the wood because of the strong glue they use. but once you do, you can use the blade
but if it gets to 10-0 You're supposed to give them a mercy point
Maybe, we've discussed this on our podcast previously. I think if you make it really obvious that you are giving them the point then it is just as demeaning as beating them 11-0.
Hi Jolan, for some reason I can't reply directly to your comment. Sorry but I haven't used that bat so can't really say. I'd guess it would be OK as a first bat to start learning the game with.
hello I am Gatot From Yogyakarta Indonesia ,It really helped me to choose the bat that's best for me personally
Can't I just re-cover my pre made bat with good rubber? It was a nice bat when I bought it
Yes
Could you tell me a good bat with a price under 100$ and longlasting with a good sponge and all.
+Raiyan Ahmed For people looking for their first bat we recommend the PingSkills Rook. You can find out more about this bat on the PingSkills website.
PingSkills this is not my 1st bat but I need a good one with the price of under 100$
+Raiyan Ahmed What bat do you use at the moment?
PingSkills It is a Ninja cheap bats but im going an inter university table tennis tournament because I recently improved highly at it, I thought about Stiga Pro Carbon or is there a better choice?
+Raiyan Ahmed As there are so many different choices we don't really keep up with all the different bats and so I haven't tried that specific one. If you like you can ask a question on the PingSkills website about the bat and we can open it up to see if other PingSkillers have any thoughts on it.
As the next step up from the PingSkills Rook we recommend the PingSkills Touch with Mark V. It is a custom made bat.
Thanks for the quick reply.
You're welcome.
Hi PingSkills, while buying a TT racquet, we see some stats on it like spin 98, speed 93 etc. Could you please make one video/ explain like what those parameters exactly stand for, how they impact the performance of the bat and what would be the ideal numbers to choose while selecting a bat for purchasing.
Thank you.
Those numbers are not very consistent across brands as the companies make up these numbers themselves hence I don't think they are that helpful. You could take a look at tabletennisdb.com for some more advice on equipment. I think the main points you need to worry about are covered in this video. What bat are you using at the moment?
Hi Guys! In a video from EmratThitch, I've heard that in chinese tt philosophy, the most important part of a bat is the wood (80%), then come the rubbers (20%).
This statement is probably more relevant for high level players. What do you think about it?
I'd say the opposite. Rubbers will have 80% effect and the blade 20%.
It depends. Blade decides your playing style and rubber supports it with spin and speed.
TT Romain Bern of course this statement is completely wrong with those numbers; you could use a glas plate or stiff cardboard with high quality rubber and wouldn't notice as much of a big difference as to a professional blade than you would notice when having a professional blade with high quality rubber (even of different pimple structures - already a huge difference!) or with a layer cut from your car tires glued onto your blade.
At first the bad blade would feel weird, but you would get used to it (although it would still impair good shots and you would notice how it's hindering you) - but if the rubber is lacking, there is nothing you can add or do.
What he wanted to say is: the blade is important, it gives the feel & the "direct" interaction with the ball, while the rubber does its "rubber-magic". So in order to learn a good stroke, the blade is important, so that you brain learns how interaction with a ball feels (stiff materials don't give that much feedback). But as mentioned, those 80 blade/20 rubber numbers are obviously ridiculous! It's more like "the blade is very important: 0/80 isn't 100%; not full potential". He should have worded it more like that.
You misunderstood EmRatThich! He mentioned that in China the bat's characteristics are 80% responsible for the feel (spin, control) and rubbers provide the speed, while in Europe, players choose harder bats for speed, and softer rubbers for control and spin.
"Drop of your racket"? I thought it was a bat lol
Ben McClean Bat or Racket, we use the terms interchangeably here in Australia.
Nice teaching
I totally agree with everything.
The quality varies with pre made bats, some 729 were decent. Do no get the dirt cheap ones.
New players should not get too expensive bats as I often see. Exactly what Alois says, they require a lot of accuracy to handle and make it very hard to practice strength, or to even see why strength is needed. I should have stayed with the Amazulov much longer before moving to Sardius. (these are the most popular woods in VN)
Even though that's not what this vid is about - a bit of gip on the pre made bat is not only for new players to practice top spin - it's a mistake that in order to get new players to start easily, teacher often teach the slight top spin stoke first.
That's a bit of a shortcut, the no spin stroke should be taught first (and that's what I warm up with often) because it's important to see just how much force and angle is needed to put the ball on the other side, when that is set, the added complexity of spin can be put in the mix.
It took me forever to understand why 2 players could practice hitting the ball flat, no spin, with their blade vertical and the ball would still go over the net. To understand that the table imparts top spin that is. This is one of the very first exercise new players should practice, and a slightly grippy bat is necessary because it allows the ball (that got topspin from the table) to bounce up on the vertical blade and go over the net - not so much for top spinning.
Thanks for your thoughts manu de hanoi
Hello I am looking for a bat around the £40 range, do you have any suggestions on a good bat to use?
We recommend the PingSkills Rook - www.pingskills.com/table-tennis-store/pre-made-bats.php
There are lots of good options though and it does come down to personal choice. Good luck with your search.
PingSkills hey do i have to pay some kind of thing when you send me something from your hq to eu?(where is it)
Yeah i find the bat pretty Good but im Working on My techniuqe
Nice, that's what I like to hear :)
When it comes time to replace the rubber on my premade bat, can I use a little bit of acetone to remove the residual glue and foam left behind after pulling the factory rubber off? Will the acetone damage the wood or change its properties in any way?
Hey I would suggest to make a video of unique shots that can be practiced and perfected and then used in a game!
Good suggestion. We have a list of the most common on our website which does include some unique ones like the sidespin forehand topspin.
Is a 5 star Stiga bat okay because I cant really order a custom made bat online
Arttu Ylitervo not very ok.
Tahsin Amio wasnt asking for your opinion
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that accent
Which is it? Canada? Irish?
Australian
I remember the first bat i used was andzrej grubba all+ blade with two sriver fx´s on it. That bat was very good to begin with
Yes, that sounds like a good bat :)
Such a great challenge, could you review the Killerspin Jet800 Speed N1
Channel not challenge, not sure why I said that. Also how can I make my rubber stickier again? And remove the dust
Sorry, we don't review equipment because there are so many different combinations and we try to focus on teaching skills. Killerspin is a well known brand.
Once the rubber loses it's grip, it's time to get some new ones. However if there is just dust on the rubber you can clean that off with just a damp sponge and some water. Wipe the rubber and ensure it is dry and you should be good to go. Here's a video that should help you out: czcams.com/video/DnEmm4dP7S8/video.html
*Hello guys. The BEST way to choose equips is to buy the most expensive setup out there and if it does not suit your level, buy the 2nd most expensive gear. Work your way down until you find the best setup.*
Thats just wasting money XD
Hi Leon Keuls, It's really a personal preference. I like an all round blade with faster rubbers so for me the PingSkills Touch with Xiom Vega Pro or Tenergy 05 is good. If you go with something really fast it will have less control, you can't have both!
What bat are you using at the moment?
I am using Stiga Fire Vortex 4*
And i like that one really much, but i want to try something else:)
What should i choose if im an offensive player: Yasaka mark V or Killerspin jet700?
Leon Keuls I don't know much about the Killerspin jet7000 sorry so I can't comment on that (it may be very good?) but I know the Mark V is good and will be a good step up from your current bat.
Okey, thank you!
I've been playing with my crappy pre made racket for years. The rubber was dead within a month of heavy use in college, and I grew accustomed to the speed that the dead rubber and extremely thin foam provided. I think I ought to be safe going to a tenergy 05 for my forehand and something softer like a sriver for my backhand. I'm sticking to a 5 ply lightweight blade to make sure I'm not overdoing the speed
Hard to say for sure but Tenergy is extremely fast especially if you are used to a dead racket. You might be best trying Sriver as a stepping stone and get used to that first.
Jeff Plumb's smile was sooo adorable at 2:14!!!
Thanks :)
Cheers,
Jeff.
Hey, I know that you have your own bat. Can you do a video on it? Also perhaps a video on how it was made etc? This may help sales
+UnseenSpirit We already have one! You can see it on our website where we sell the bats, or google "pingskills touch youtube".
Can we get an update for this video? still has some relavent info, but would really like to see options for the different levels of play. Also would love to see a slightly cheaper option in your store. Not quite at the "practice every day to become a competitor" level just yet, but would like a paddle that isn't just the one sitting idly by that is crap. Looking to spend 20-30$ on one though. Any suggestions?
hii..u guyz are really awesome,thnx alot. but i have question. i am mid-level player. which tt bat should i choose in PREMAADE.i love to smash & chop too. i had tried butterfly bat (wakaba 2000) but its not so comfortable & not even spin the ball very well. then which premade bat should i choose???butterfly or else???
+Shubham Athalye Butterfly is an excellent brand. We also recommend the PingSkills Rook which you can find out more about on the PingSkills website.
no premade lol
my bumper design is a plastic surface and a rubber underneath, basically 2 things before the wood. and the side are not even or fit at wood edge, making it hard to gain control on side practicing.
Awesome video as always. As my first racket, i chose a roundell (for forehand), Shriver FX (for my backhand) and a Petr korbel blade. What is your opinion about my decision?
Sounds like a good choice to me. What really matters is what you think of it. Are you enjoying the new bat?
@@pingskills yes it's really good but I can't play with it for now... I'm stuck at home because of the Corona virus 😟. Btw thanks for answering and stay safe
@@panagiwthsg.8625 Thanks, you too, stay safe in these uncertain times.
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Hi guys, first of all i want to say thank you for the tips, i bought a premade blade Is a Palio Master 2 with great rotation and speed, if u know it can u tell me if is a good racket ?
I haven't used it myself but have heard good reports about it as a pre-made bat.
Thinking of replacing my 2 original bats, with the much better rook bats, coudnt you just replace the rubbers on the rook bat, when they finally wear out?
Thanks, great channel!
Yes, you can replace the rubbers on the rook bat when they wear out. The rubbers are glued on with a strong glue so you do need to be careful when taking the old ones off.
I think blade is also important or at least one should be able to figure out if the blade is fine or not.
I recently bought a custom racket having mark v soft rubbers with Tibhar champ blade. I went with this very basic blade to keep things as simple as possible. I have played with mark v rubbers before but on a different blade and I felt so much comfortable and controlled as it gives confidence that you could play your shots with full commitment. And pay more focus on game rather than on the technique and all as the ball lands on the table most of the time.
However with my racket I did not get the same feeling and i think the culprit was the cheap blade. I experienced that it has different response to the ball at different points of the blade.
Like for example at the centre the ball bounces normal but when it is closer to the edge it bounce more and quicker.
I verified this by simply bouncing the ball on the racket i could see this difference.
Because of this I found difficult to hit smashes as the ball leaves the racket faster than I would have wanted when the contact point is slightly towards the edge and away from the center of the racket.
And also looping backspin was another problem i could generate enough spin but the ball would either land on to the net or out of the table whereas what I was trying to slow loop it so that it just crosses the net at a very low trajectory.
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
What kind of rubber makes youre stroke faster (on the custom blades)?
On the custom blade, is there a sponge between the rubber and the wood?
Really like youre channel!!
+daniel cadena garcia The inverted rubbers or "normal" rubbers have a sponge which can vary in thickness. There are hundreds of different types of rubber but we recommend a few on the PingSkills website.
Hello, Jeff and Alois.
I consider myself a pretty good player but I only have experience playing with the pimple bats. I now want to purchase my first pre-made rubber bat for a fairly advanced player like myself. I've been browsing around and noticed three elements on the spec sheets of a few bats. They are: control, spin, and speed. What do each of these things mean and which are best suited to which playing styles? I use the shakehand hold and consider myself an attacking player, by the way.
Cheers.
+Swiizzey The ratings aren't very useful because they aren't standard. The manufacturer can make up whatever they like for these ratings. If you've only ever used a pimple bat you'll find a big difference when going to an inverted rubber. We recommend the PingSkills Rook as a good first pre-made bat. There are of course lots of good options out there. It's important to not get something too fast to start with so you can learn to play a full stroke. You do need something though that can generate some good spin as table tennis is a game of spin.
+PingSkills Thanks!
The first 3 are okay for playful ping pong
But if you are wanting to learn better abilities, you Should get much better paddles in order to obtain basic table tennis skills
Hey guys, absolutely love your videos! I have been playing TT for the past three years and have used Kung-FU DX and Offensive XX by GKI, I'm planning to get my racket upgraded. Before watching this video, I was considering EURO-Spintec by GKI. But I see, that you recommend a custom made racket. Please help me choose the blade and rubbers. Also, is it advisable to use two different rubbers for both sides or just one?
We recommend the PingSkills Touch with Mark V, or Rakza 7, or Tenergy 05. They are all good choices but there are also lots of other good choices. The problem is there are too many choices and we can't keep up with of them. That's why we choose 3 options, to keep it simple. Let me know if that hleps Zap Dash.
With regards to having the same rubber on both sides, that is what I have always done. You'd only choose something different if you had a good reason or thought some rubber would suit your backhand more than your forehand.
Okay, thanks a lot. That did help :)
Zap Dash You're welcome!