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HE'S THE GREATEST DRUMMER ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Hudba
El Estepario Siberiano is the beastliest drummer alive 🤘
Yep. Someone had to say it.
I came here to say the same thing.
Facts! Dude is a goddamn machine
He's untouchable.... with the largest drumming page on CZcams.
Jay is an impressive drummer for sure, but Estepario Siberiano can play every slipknot song absolutely no problem. He is just way ahead Jay
Being a drummer a lot of it does come in the form of muscle memory, once you learn your kit and the song you could play any song blindfolded.
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Was just going to say this. Relating it to gaming, you know where all the buttons on your controller are at without looking at them, and you know what each of them does, what sequence to press them in, etc... intuitively. The human brain is pretty amazing at adapting to, and learning skills. I used to play drums many years ago, I'm learning to play guitar now, and I also used to compete in speedcubing (Rubix cubes). All of it is pattern recognition and muscle memory. Failing to not sound cliche, all it takes is PRACTICE.
he could probably barely see out if the mask either
I concur!
Tempo is never muscle memory though. As a drummer, if a drummer can hold tempo perfect like that, I'm seriously impressed.
Alex, if you enjoyed this, Tool have a drum cam of their drummer performing Pneuma live. It's staggering to watch, especially since the beat isn't a normal 1,2,3,4
Danny Carey is literally the best drummer.
this is a must watch!
Yes, I fully agree with you on Danny Carey. The breakdown in the video is absolutely amazing.
oyeha! thats one of the kinde drummer, check it out!
@@bigbrownie7Danny Carey, Gavin Harrison, Mario Duplantier, Thomas Haake, Gene Hoglan. Probly the current top 5 drummers in my eyes
Jay makes it look so easy, but to play those amount of notes, at that bpm, with those tempo switchups, and not miss a single beat, it's insane
Well, you have to remember that he did write the drums for the song.
Some of the rapid short snare fills sounded a bit butchered though
that BPM is that reaaaal hard part
@@blainelewis4378 makes it easier, but not flat out easy
His bpm isn't that fast people. At best feet is 180bpm. That's because he uses his whole leg which takes a lot of energy. It's why so many other metal drummers use ankle,heel to toe or swivel techniques. Shoes have nothing to do with it. It's all technique.
You mentioned him using his fingers to play consecutive fast notes. As a drummer I can say you are absolutely on the mark here. Drummers use many techniques when playing, but finger control and utilising as much finger motion with as little wrist movement as possible is essential for playing fast and maintaining stamina.
and to answer your question about our mind when playing. there is a lot happening at once so its almost impossible to think of what you are playing, most of our playing comes from muscle memory, and knowing parts back to front. usually the only time I think of what to play is in terms of structure, e.g knowing what part of the song you are approaching.
I second this for the most part. I think about specific beats/rhythms and fills when writing the piece, but once it is written, it is all structure, groove, and feel.
drummer here...since i started drumming with the age of 14 i always wear skating shoes :) and to be a bit more preciselly i like the ones with a wide front sole^^
and to your other question...a drummer's mind (im pretty sure you can say a musicians mind) is working with a lot of muscle-mind memory...you practice grooves or rudiments when your alone in your room...maybe you try to cover some songs and the more confident you become you bring your own beats in your own songs...at the end of the day its like growing as a human...you start to walk (basic 4/4 tact) then you watch wath other people do and learn from them (rudiments) and then the time will come when you start to find your own way (nice poly rythm/jazz/metal etc.)...and when you have choosen your path you can play songs that fit you and your style pretty easy/good...im a metal drummer and when it comes to metalcore i know what to do...but dont ask me about jazz...that shit is to crazy :D
Jay's dad is Max Weinberg, who was the drummer for Bruce Springsteen's E Street band for years, and was the bandleader on Late Night With Conan O'Brien.
He still is the drummer for the E Street Band!
You should see the duet Max and Jay are having. That's an awesome piece of drumming right there. I love that video, it's so wholesome 😁🤘🏻
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Jay was stand in on a Springsteen tour in a young age
I saw Jay Weinberg live with Slipknot last June, then a week later I saw Max Weinberg live with Bruce Springsteen in Germany 😂
The whole finger thing helps when you have a drum head to bounce the stick off of. The stick doesn't bounce very well when you're drumming on your desk or your knee. But when it hits a drum head it'll bounce back up and then you just use your finger tips to bounce it back down. It's one motion against a drum as opposed to two motions against a surface that doesn't cause the bounce.
4:00 100% practice and muscle memory. I've been a drummer my whole life.
100% Agreed! As a Drummer myself I completely agree with this! It also helps if you've listened to the songs and drum parts enough that you've memorised them. I can't read music, I don't understand tab but if you tell me to go and learn a song from ear on the kit, I can definitely do it
@@jordanstrang8056 Exactly me too.
I play jembé and practice and muscle memory sounds right for that too. And if you think too much about what you're doing, you F up. lol. But you also need a sense a rhythm. I know people that don't have that and they can practice until the cows go home and never get it.
@@black4pienus I disagree, I started playing drums with zero sense of rhythm and managed to improve it greatly with consistent practice. Everything can be improved by practicing.
^THIS!
He’s unreal. Love that he grew up a fan and his dad is a legend too. Love the channel Alex!
To answer your question at around 4:00, 10 years of drumming has gotten me to a point of learning a song, playing it a few times through, and as I memorize the song, I can memorize the drum parts without even putting it on the kit. Once I’m able to but it on the kit, then it’s just repetition until you don’t even have to think about it. At Jay’s level, he may be thinking about different “parts” of the song, but by no means the individual notes. It’s a habit built, and takes a lot of time.
For me, my kick drum goes autopilot for the most part, and I rarely think about it while playing.
It’s fun. Hope you keep progressing man! I’d love to see you killing it behind the kit someday!
This is awesome. Also check out the drum cam of the Lorna Shore drummer doing Sun//Eater or something. That's also insanity in motion!
And as you may know, Jay's father is Springsteen's drummer, so he kinda grew up with it (although it did not play that much of a central role in his home-life, he did see his father on a few shows when he was a kid).
This man has to see the eyeless joey jordison intro live!
I still think Joey is one of the Best ever. Well missed to R.I.P Joey.
@@terryosborne272 yea what a legend, he will be missed!
Been drumming for 23 years and playing extreme metal for almost 20 of those years. It's muscle memory. We create patterns while writing drums, and we memorize the patterns and what order they go in through repetition. I've written and recorded a lot of songs back in 2007-2008 that I haven't played since then and I can jump on my kit and still play them without having to even really think much about it. Once you've memorized a pattern and have done it hundreds if not thousands of times, you will probably never forget it.
There's a video on youtube of Joey Jordison Drum Solo in the studio that is insane to see.
Hey Alex, check out El Estepario Siberiano playing a slipknot tune with one hand (as requested by slipknot) 😁😘
Thank you so much for shining a light on the hard work us drummers do! It's something that does seem to get overlooked! Some other drummers you NEED to check out are Alex Bent (Trivium), Luke Holland, Adam Janzi (VOLA) and Ray Hearne (Haken). All the best dude 🤘
Luke Holland is an animal. Chris Turner (Oceans Ate Alaska) is also incredible. And the drummer that really got me into polyrhythms Morgan Rose (Sevendust).
There's so many great drummers out there.
The drums sound so good because it’s taken from the mixing desk and based on the tightness, also processed quite a bit as there’s no boom. That and the boy is the child of Jay Weinberg, one of the greats.
drumming is an intense practicing of muscle memory, and then it comes naturally, but it´s not easy in the beginning.
Drummers are out of this world. I can barely talk and walk at the same time
Then you might be a drummer
@@tylersays- daamn
Got to see him perform with his dad at Guitar Center Drum Off while I was still there... Absolutely amazing to see them battle against each other. If you get a chance to check it out, you will be greatly surprised.
Im big into movies and i have massive respect for the composers. Having to pick the exact music or even just specific notes for one scene alone cant be easy.
Jay is one of the main reasons I picked up drumming. Hopefully one day I can play his stuff cause right now it’s too damn hard 😭
Danny Carey of Tool is another insane drummer. His polyrhythms, fills and solos are mind blowing.
Right answer!! This dude is a tool after reading the headlines and went to the comments! haah
Yup, Paola , Kansas's own ..
Danny Carey is like 3 leagues above Jay Weinberg or even more.
Practice, practice and even more practice! The way i learned was by starting with rock band like Def Leppard, Poison, Bon Jovi, etc... Then when i considered that i was as good if not better then the band drummer, i would crank it up with bands like Faith No More, Metallica, Guns & ROses, so on and on that you reach the hardest like Slayer, System of a Dawn, Slipknot and such.
Music is for everyone Alex. Never too late to start. Drums guitar piano, all of it. The world is your oyster. Rock on 🤘🏼
@alexbarie4812 Facts!
I started playing and taking lessons for clarinet when I was like 35 years old. Before that I never took any lessons for any instrument, I just played them. That was one the best choices in my adult life.
Hey man I've been a drummer for 9 years and I can tell you, air drumming is a very good way to get into drums. I learned by taking a few lessons then watching a shit ton of drum covers, and listening for the different parts of a drum set in songs so I know how they're used. If you wanna get into drums, picking up a used drum set, buying some entry level cymbals, and playing some basic songs are a great way to start. It's never to late to start learning, and if you wanna get as good as him, then learning the same songs that he plays is a good idea! And btw your air drumming actually looked pretty natural :)
The way he moves his feet, so fast... yet he truly looks like he missed legs day for his entire life. Amazing!
Disasterpieces had a great drum-cam feature on the DVD showing off Joey's talent.
Also jay is great but if you want to see talent check out buddy rich, his solos are amazing in my opinion.
Also a few of my favorite drummers and maybe some videos to consider.
In no particular order
Danny Carry -Tool
Chris Adler - Lamb of God
Dave Grohl - Nirvana / foo fighters
Niel Peart - Rush
Bill Ward - Black Sabbath
Travis Barker - blink 182
Josh Freese - A Perfect Circle / Nine Inch Nails
I've always worn Vans when I play the drums. They're so lightweight so I can be able to do the fast double kicks. Hope you keep playing the drums, they're super fun!
Mic’ing the drums from inside is insanely smart. Gives it that massive boom. Whitechapel’s old drummer did that and it sounded like canons going off every time he smacked the toms.
Or you go full Eloy Casagrande style a few miles away from the drums with the only mic you have
El Estepario Siberiano can do this one handed 🤐
For me personally, the parts themselves are muscle memory, but I’m thinking about the songs structure, when the verse ends into the chorus, etc.
Having watched Drumeo videos the past few weeks, it's cool watching drummers do what's called "active listening". Essentially they listen to the song to know its structure and tempos, and then from their use what they learned over the years to try to recreate the drum track in the song. It's so cool to watch drummers in their element!
The reason it looks so effortless is because he has perfect technique. The best drummers can play blast beats at lightning speeds and look relaxed as hell!
Jay is great....but no one moves like joey i have never seen a drummer with inhuman movements ❤
Jay is without a doubt a great drummer. But could you please do a reaction of Eloy Casagrande, this guy is amazing too. Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷
Jay Weinberg/Joey Jordison, Mario Duplantier and Danney Carey are imo the best HEAVY Metal drummers of all time
It’s kind of criminal Mario Duplantier isn’t mentioned nearly as much as the others, considering he’s arguably the best one out there.
@@Wernershnitzl Yeah true, Mario is in a complete other league than Jay Weinberg. Mario is really one of the 0.001% Top Drummers, and Jay is not even close to that.
Jay is easily in my top 5 best/favorite drummers and seeing him live was incredible.
Your face when he started the blast beat 😂
Drummers are crazy man. Another AMAZING drum cam, besides of course the Pneuma one from Tool, is Slaughter to Prevail Demolisher drum cam. that guy is not human. If you get a chance, check it out
I'm amazed by drummers. Jay and Danny from TooL totally blow my mind.
Wrong.
Thomas lang is much better than Carey
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Tomas Haake
@@SIRebrum Lang would annihilate him just with his feet.
Jay’s drum tech needs a raise those toms are sounding next level. Loving the tone they have on those rack/floor toms
You can absolutely get to that level of drumming. Hard work and dedication, you have to put the years in.
I mean, there are people who start at such a young age and also have the gift for it, like Jay. But maybe with a lot of serious practice, reaching a level to be able to play this song could be attainable in 5 to 8 years. Also, if you want to check out another drummer, it would be nice if you could take a look at El Estepario Siberiano's one-handed drum covers or just normal two-handed ones 😄 He's awesome!
Awesomeness!!! Sorry but Neil Peart is & was The G.O.A.T. on drums!!! Keep On Rocking 🤘😈
When Alex said to name one, that's who came to my mind first
@@salvatorebaleno9807 I did. I texted Neil Peart
Dude, I learned by ear I have to say my mindset is like a metronome drumming i’m 41 I’ve been playing since I was seven to me, it’s having the same song stuck in your head over and over and over
It's weird in the way that makes you awesome Alex! I'm here for it.
Also "dirt squirrel " 😂😂😂😂😂
some people are born with a talent.. Jay is born to play the drums. Not many people will be able to play like that
While Jay is pretty good, no one will be better than Joey.
Jay technically buries Joey. Joey was more speed still insanely but Jay on a technical level can play any style and things like that.
@@prodigalbrock Jay is a great drummer, but he doesn't bury Joey on a technical level. Let's not forget that Jay's father is responsible for him even playing to begin with, Joey started out banging on pots and pans and was 100% self made. I'm not bagging on Jay because there's no denying his abilities, but he sort of had an advantage when it comes to his craft.
Joey might not have been the most technical drummer, but he was a powerful, rock steady and energetic drummer that made Slipknot possible. I seen Slipknot just before they exploded and I remember after the concert the one thing that stuck out to me was Joey's playing. Despite the insanity of their stage presence, masks and 9 guys on stage, it was the one behind the drums that blew me away. Slipknot was never the same for me after losing Paul and then Joey, frankly I lost all respect for them after the way they handled the situation with Joey. However, for the sake of the music Jay is doing a good job and we was probably the best choice to fill Joey's shoes.
Joey had speed, that was it, he wasn’t creative at all. And far from the greatest drummer
@@85ddrummer Opinions, everyone’s entitled to theirs
opinions 😁but for me Jay is WAAAAAAAAY BETTER than Joey 🤘
For the answer to the drumming question, it depends. See when I learn a song and I'm not that good at it, I need to think about what comes next. But when I know the song really well, I just zone out because it just comes naturally.
mostly for drumming when ever i play its like I have a sort of preset of drum grooves i can use and then i can adapt them to fit the riff or just change it up however i like
Danny Carrey is the best drummer alive❗
Mario form Gojira? Brann from Mastodon? tough fight
I think I agree with you but this dude is awesome too!
There are so many drummers that are amazing (Danny Carey, Mario D., Tomas Haake, Blake Richardson, Matt Garstka to name a few). They are all so different, it’s not a competition. 👍🏽
@@VirgoKing89 Nice shoutout to Blake Richardson! Dude is a machine. He can play full BTBAM albums front to back with hardly any mistakes at all and the drumming is crazy technical.
Daney Carey, Vinnie Paul, The Rev are some of my fav drummers all time
It’s so funny he being impressed with the simplest things in drumming, but actually passing the real difficult shit! 😂
It's all about conscious practice (even better with a good teacher to lead the way) and putting in the time to improve on a daily basis.
I've been studying drums for almost 25 years now, and once you understand the principles, you can direct your training towards mastering and achieving your goals as a musician.
All that being said, he is an awesome drummer.
Yes. In a few years of practice and intentionality towards the metal genre. You absolutely could get to that speed
As someone who drummed a bit as a kid, lost it for years, then tried to pick it back up in my mid-30's, I can tell you that yes while it's possible that you can become a very solid drummer after many years of practice (and probably even get to the level of being able to record a passable cover of this song), it is INFINITELY easier to develop drumming skills when you are a kid since a young brain is more malleable when it comes to learning skills. Re-learning things like limb independence, stick control, etc took 10x longer the 2nd time around when my brain had already become a stubborn old bastard. It's also easier to practice for hours on end when you're young and don't have the typical commitments of adult life. There's days I wanted to throw in the towel but eventually got back to a level where it was enjoyable.
Also more drum reactions plz :)
Dude love the mustache, keep it.
Jay started teaching himself at age 14, he's 32 now. It helps that his dad is who he is, but he's still amazing.
It's a combination of natural ability/talent and a lot of work. I've been told by accomplished drummers that you can learn and get to a reasonably good level fairly quickly if you have some aptitude and are willing to spend the time on it. Taking it to higher levels takes a lot more time.
As a drummer myself, and to echo what a few others have said, a lot is muscle memory. One of the best things I learned when I was taking lessons was when I was trying to really figure out double kick. My drum teacher imparted the best wisdom. He said, "get your feet going at a comfortable tempo, and then completely forget about your lower half." That's always stuck with me and something that I, and probably a lot of other metal drummers do unconsciously, when playing double kick. You just start on that 1, and then just go, and focus only up top.
GODS!!!!! GIFT!!!!!!!! But also he's looking and listening to the other members waiting on his cue to do his thing.. I will say i did practise drums for a bit and i found its in the wrist and fingers.. like opening your palm and quickly tightening it again while you flick with your wrist. Great reaction.
I don't use social media and don't have a phone, I am busy writting a lot and don't like distractions, But if you listen to slow songs with drum beats learn the rhythm of the song and anticipate where the drum's beats come in, Its odd but i learned more doing that than actually learning lol But when you listen to bands like Skillit, Emphatic, Metalica, Slipnot and others you get a good selection of where the drum's kick in, I enjoy Babymetal Karate drum beat, Though everything about that song is prety good even if i don't understand what the hell they are saying lol Good luck.
You're always thinking a few measures ahead of where you're about to be. That was one of the hardest things for me to learn when I started drumming like 18 years ago. Also when you're seeing them play that fast they practice playing faster so that's only part of their ability.
I have those vans. They are super lightweight. Perfect for drumming.
Alex, maybe you should check out Evgeny Novikovs drum playthrough of Demolisher by Slaughter to Prevail. I know you know the song, i´d just think you would love to get mind blown by his skills aswell. Atleast just as much as Jays playing :)
ive drummed a little bit and when first doing a song you do talk to yourself "okay this is what i do next" but eventually it becomes muscle memory so where is he looking proper answer is either he isnt or he is making sure he is hitting the right angle on whatever he is hitting. i found that often times when i drummed id just closer my eyes and my head would follow the noise or go into a comfortable position and id just play
At first they think about it but with time comes that feel for it
Yes as a drummer. We're not thinking of what we're playing but two or 3 or even 4 measures ahead waiting for different changes and fills that are important. Also a study was done that proves drummers brains just work differently.
Can anyone else feel the inevitability of Alex becoming a drum nerd?! Can’t wait lol.
Jay's studio drum cam recording for unsainted is even crazier
It is what it is, we dont understand fully but whe can still enjoy the performance! Great vid.
I think my new favourite quote to use is going to be "my left hand is so fucking stupid" 😂
its the feet and hands doing different things that disqualifies me as drummer.
Jay is incredible, we all love him!! There's a video of Alex Bent playing "The Catstrophist" by Trivium in the studio and it's insane!! You'll be mind blown!!
Just glad you are alright my dude, wasn't sure if you were in Maui or not; aloha brother😎🤙🤙
Love that question of what I like to drum in! Great drummer question! I've played in everything from socks to boots (the work boots were for fun, and suck to play on) but Vans are comfy. The pedal itself also plays into what you wear to play it. But it's all nuance after that. Anyway, love the vids and keep doing what you do!
You should check out a Chapeltown Rag drum cam. It’s even more insane
The most mind-blowing drum solo I’ve seen to date is by Mike Mangini from when he was playing with Steve Vai. It must have been more than 20 years ago but it has that vibe of his brain being split into three or four to account for all his limbs doing different things. And also his speed with one hand, I believe he was a record breaker, I’m not sure what the record is nowadays 🤔 He’s also really fun to watch, I greatly recommend watching it!
This is so sick, amazing🔥🔥
It's definitely interesting as a drummer watching a non drummer reaction to a drum cam video haha
I'm a drummer, I am not nearly as good as Jay but I play everything on muscle memory and feeling. I am self-taught and have never read sheet music, I still can't. I learn a song by listening to the songs and as a result I have trained my hearing to focus in on the drums.
Never to late to start! All about learning techniques and patterns. The papradiddle is a great start, I’d add to that the six stroke roll (RllrrL).Playing fast isn’t about muscling it out, it’s about efficiency (technique) and muscle memory.
You’ve got this dude! Check some tutorials on proper stick grip and posture to start off strong. Those are hard to fix later.
Blast beats all in the fingers bro
As a drummer myself, when learning a song or writing a drum part, you do have to think about what you are doing. But once you play a song enough, it is pretty much muscle memory. That's why there are so many stories of musicians playing live sets flawlessly while drunk or high.
I have been a metal drummer for 22 years. I will tell you its all feeling and muscle memory after the writing process. For me its like my body is doing it and my brain is following along to be sure im doing it right. And yeah you do have to have ”IT” naturally. Good luck!!
Love his work. Another drummer for you to check out Alex (though different genre) is Yoshiki from X-Japan
Drumming pad and rudiments love them
I fancy drumming in vans as well
I love Jay's setup with how low the cymbals are.
you have to remember that Jay and others have been playing HOURS PER DAY for 15-20+ years.
they say if you put 10,000 hours into something, you can master it.
We all have our favorites,mine is Tomas Haake.
One of biggest goussbump of my life when he play that in front of me
Drummer here. When you first start out, yes, limb coordination is a tough obstacle to overcome. Eventually, with practice, different rhythms come to you like second nature. Your brain and body learn to count out the beats you're playing to keep in time with the music. If you're looking more more drum-focused videos to react to, Danny Carey from Tool has one for "Pneuma", as others have mentioned. Some of my other favorites include Gavin Harrison playing "Anaesthetize", and Mike Portnoy playing "Panic Attack" or "The Great Debate".
Neil Peart (RIP)
Drummer for Rush. Often described as "your favorite drummer's favorite drummer"
As a drummer........all about the feeling
Alex, when you were talking about Jay's technique you were almost close to doing it. It's a finger technique where your index and thumb lightly hold the stick acting like a fulcrum while middle, ring, and pinkie fingers move the butt end of the stick up and when the head of the stick hits the pad it bounces back. It's used in a lot of heavy blast beats so you aren't using all arm technique which helps to keep stamina up for those long shows/sets.
Been drumming for 18 years, no shoes, always socks
You gotta watch the Rev’s drum compilation, so good!
MOST IMPORTANT THING WITH DRUMS: Patience. They’re fucking hard.